The Political Cesspool - James Edwards - Radio Show Hour 2 – 2026/05/09
Aired: 2026-05-10
Duration: 54:49


=== Voter Truth and Model Base (12:58) ===

[00:00:01]  You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is The Political Cesspool.
[00:00:13]  The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
[00:00:22]  And here to guide you through the murky waters of The Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
[00:00:28]  Well, we're back for an entire second hour with Lou Moore.
[00:00:35]  I mean, typically when we have a guest on, it's a full hour, sometimes 30 minutes.
[00:00:39]  And if we're doing an ensemble show, a segment apiece, very rarely do we keep a single guest more than one hour.
[00:00:46]  But tonight absolutely demanded it.
[00:00:49]  Lou Moore, with his inside knowledge of politics and him coming at this thing from an issue oriented perspective that aligns with our worldview, you just couldn't keep him off the air tonight.
[00:01:03]  And he doesn't limit himself to Utah, folks.
[00:01:06]  He is.
[00:01:07]  A cross country star on this analysis.
[00:01:12]  Indeed.
[00:01:12]  He's worked in D.C. He's been in Washington, Texas, other places.
[00:01:16]  I mean, he is a man about town or the country, as it were.
[00:01:20]  Lou, I think the big thing that you established for us in the first hour that people need to be keeping in mind is that, yes, if everybody, if every district votes in November as it did in 2024, it's going to be big gains for the GOP, but that's not guaranteed.
[00:01:37]  Give me a final word and assessment on the current.
[00:01:41]  Flurry of redistricting in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision on the Voting Rights Act.
[00:01:47]  And then I'm going to shift into some other interesting races, including the Vivek Wamaswamy Casey Putch primary that just took place in Ohio.
[00:01:58]  Yeah, well, it's for sure helpful to the GOP this happened.
[00:02:02]  I mean, without any doubt.
[00:02:04]  You know, I'm just questioning how helpful it will be.
[00:02:07]  It will be more helpful in the South.
[00:02:09]  Some of the districts I'm wondering about actually are in places like Ohio and other places.
[00:02:15]  So, I mean, this is a big deal.
[00:02:17]  I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to minimize it, but, um, you know, there is a lot of shifting going on.
[00:02:24]  And then it's also who turns out.
[00:02:26]  And the Democrat base is very, very motivated.
[00:02:30]  We have a ton of, of, uh, data that, that, uh, shows us that.
[00:02:35]  And the GOP base is not so motivated.
[00:02:38]  And historically, the Trump voter, quote unquote, as opposed to just a GOP voter, they vote when his name's on the ballot.
[00:02:46]  When his name's not on the ballot, it's a lot tougher getting them out.
[00:02:51]  And then we get into the issues, and that would take a while.
[00:02:54]  So there are big problems for the GOP in this election, but this has been a real gift from Florida, from the Virginia Supreme Court, from what Abbott did in Texas.
[00:03:06]  And now this decision that's going to affect some of these other Deep South states, really not that many seats this time around, but certainly it will have a longer impact as all of the states that were under this Voter Rights Act thing are going to have to comply.
[00:03:20]  That's the new world.
[00:03:23]  Lou, this is Keith.
[00:03:24]  What effect will the Iran war have on the turnout?
[00:03:30]  I think the Iran war is going to have a.
[00:03:33]  It's already.
[00:03:35]  It is devastating Trump's base.
[00:03:38]  It's devastating.
[00:03:39]  I mean, you know, there's a ton of people loyal to him.
[00:03:42]  They're going to be loyal to him.
[00:03:43]  But it's peeling off women, independent women.
[00:03:49]  As far as the coalition that got him elected, it is significant.
[00:03:55]  And the biggest significance won't be, oh, I don't really like war, or I like war and it's great and I love Israel.
[00:04:03]  My gas costs $4.50 now.
[00:04:07]  That is what is going to kill the Republicans in the fall.
[00:04:10]  Affordability.
[00:04:11]  They're not careful.
[00:04:12]  Yeah, affordability of everything.
[00:04:15]  His whole economic plan was based on cheap energy.
[00:04:19]  We all know this.
[00:04:20]  He said it 100 times.
[00:04:22]  Well, can he straighten out between now and November?
[00:04:25]  Is there a way that he can basically tell the petroleum industry, look, you need to sell in America at a lower price so that I can win this election?
[00:04:34]  Can we get insurance rates, health insurance, homeowners' property values, and gas down before the summer's over?
[00:04:45]  Yeah, I mean, I'm not smart enough to know all of that, but the oil market people I follow say there is no way.
[00:04:53]  These prices will be down by the election.
[00:04:56]  And plus, we're not even on a trajectory for sure.
[00:04:59]  I mean, truth is the first casualty of war.
[00:05:02]  So I can't even tell you what's going on over there.
[00:05:05]  Can you tell me?
[00:05:06]  I have no idea.
[00:05:07]  It doesn't matter what happens over there, Lou.
[00:05:09]  What happens is what the lawyers of London think of it because they're not going to cover these tankers.
[00:05:16]  They're not going to go.
[00:05:18]  Yeah, well, every day that strait is closed or they're getting like five or six ships out when they should be getting 95.
[00:05:24]  Every day that goes on, That affects these Lloyds of London people.
[00:05:30]  It totally affects the market.
[00:05:32]  I'll tell you the truth.
[00:05:33]  You know, I'll tell you where, as you say, affordability.
[00:05:36]  At the end of the day, I mean, we're animals.
[00:05:39]  Me and you, Lou and Keith.
[00:05:41]  I mean, we do this for the greater good and for a cause.
[00:05:44]  Most people are just looking after number one, and that's not a bad thing.
[00:05:47]  That's human nature.
[00:05:49]  But I just got back from Charleston, and my wife and I drove, and we stopped, and we saw Sam Dixon on the way.
[00:05:56]  Had a great time going and coming, but I can tell you that a couple of months ago it was about $40 to fill up my tank.
[00:06:03]  Now it's $80.
[00:06:04]  And that's across the board.
[00:06:07]  That's groceries, that's fast food, that's real estate, that's if you can even afford health insurance.
[00:06:12]  And I tell you, the so called big, beautiful bill had a very devastating effect on normal people when it comes to health care affordability.
[00:06:20]  And if the Republicans lose, I think the blame lies firmly on Netanyahu.
[00:06:28]  By getting us into this war, basically, he's wrecked Trump's prospects.
[00:06:35]  Well, I mean, but Netanyahu's doing what's good for Netanyahu.
[00:06:39]  Trump, the buck stops with Trump.
[00:06:42]  Well, you know, it's the age old question of Jewish power and influence.
[00:06:46]  You know, they are going to get their way.
[00:06:50]  Unfortunately, and while I don't argue the power of organized Jewry, not at all, Trump has basically gone to the Bush administration.
[00:06:59]  Political model, his political operation, and they all were in that model.
[00:07:05]  And that model is this do whatever the big boys want.
[00:07:08]  And I don't just mean Israel, I mean the pharmaceutical lobby, the tech lobby, big agriculture, the whole deal.
[00:07:18]  Do whatever they want, raise a ton of money, which suppresses your base, and hope you can run enough of those cheap, you can run enough of those 30 second TV ads.
[00:07:30]  That the old people, who are the only people looking at these ads who are going to still be the majority of the voter file in an off year election, that they're going to pull you through.
[00:07:39]  That is the Bush model.
[00:07:41]  That is not the populist model.
[00:07:43]  It's not the Trump model.
[00:07:44]  It's not the direction I talk about in my book that the country was moving, which gives us so much opportunity with the internet and everything else.
[00:07:52]  But, you know, they're doing that, and then they're buying off influencers on the internet, and they're hoping that's going to get them through.
[00:07:58]  And so, to me, there's a lot of issues, and all these issues affect real people like, you know, the healthcare industry, these insurance companies that are stealing from Medicare, these drug companies that are still charging 35 times what they charge up in Canada for different drugs and everything.
[00:08:17]  And we got one photo off after another of Trump sitting in the White House with them.
[00:08:22]  And even if there is some substance to things getting better, your average voter up in Ohio, which again, I will point out 40% of them are independents.
[00:08:32]  They never went all the way down the line and took the GOP pledge.
[00:08:35]  These people are blue collar.
[00:08:38]  They want to be taken care of.
[00:08:40]  They're coming out of this Rust Belt thing.
[00:08:42]  They want to be taken care of.
[00:08:43]  They want to see these jobs materialize.
[00:08:45]  And they don't want to see all this okey doke with all these big corporation guys at the White House.
[00:08:50]  It's been terrible.
[00:08:52]  Here's what the other side at least pretends to see.
[00:08:55]  This is Hakeem Jeffries responding to the redistricting that's going on and the decision by the Virginia Supreme Court.
[00:09:03]  MAGA Republicans have adopted voter suppression as a strategy, as also evidenced by far right extremists on the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights Act to open the door to Jim Crow like attack on black representation across the American South.
[00:09:16]  House Democrats will win in November so we can help rescue this nation from the extremism being unleashed by Donald Trump and the Republicans.
[00:09:23]  And one more, Keith, I've got.
[00:09:24]  For you here.
[00:09:26]  Here is again Justin Pearson, the state representative from Tennessee.
[00:09:32]  That's State House, not Memphis.
[00:09:34]  From Memphis, State House, not U.S. House.
[00:09:37]  But these maps are racist tools of white supremacy at the behest of the most powerful white supremacist in the United States, Donald Trump.
[00:09:46]  They're trying to raise the corpse of the civil rights movement from the dead.
[00:09:51]  Well, if only any of that were true, Lou, as you say, I mean, the reality of it is not anything close to.
[00:09:57]  No.
[00:09:59]  It's so pathetic.
[00:10:00]  I mean, look what they did to the rural people in California.
[00:10:03]  And I used to be one of those people at one time in my life.
[00:10:05]  They don't care about disfranchising all those people.
[00:10:08]  They could care less.
[00:10:10]  But now there's some other interest group that they need.
[00:10:12]  Oh, no, these people, it's all about oppression.
[00:10:15]  Anyway, it's the same thing.
[00:10:18]  This stuff is totally ineffective.
[00:10:21]  It's ineffective, even among a lot of people in California.
[00:10:24]  They've gotten so used to being the beneficiaries of racial discrimination, they can't believe that a new day has dawned.
[00:10:32]  Yeah.
[00:10:34]  Yeah, it's all tactics.
[00:10:35]  And with the Democrats, there's nothing sincere.
[00:10:37]  It's all tactics.
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=== Clinton Concerns and Rolling Talk (11:54) ===

[00:13:00]  That's more
[00:13:52]  good stuff there.
[00:13:53]  I bet you're already.
[00:13:53]  That's just more good stuff.
[00:13:55]  What can I say?
[00:13:55]  I do have to ask Lou this.
[00:13:57]  I like putting our guests on the spot from time to time.
[00:13:59]  I remember asking Nick Griffin a couple of years ago if he was a Herman's Hermit's man or a Rolling Stones man.
[00:14:07]  He said neither.
[00:14:07]  He was into like 1970s death metal or something.
[00:14:10]  I can't remember.
[00:14:16]  So, Lou, I got to ask you.
[00:14:18]  Were you a Monkey's man?
[00:14:20]  You were probably a little more hardcore.
[00:14:21]  I'm thinking you're probably more.
[00:14:22]  Paul Revere and the Raiders, or maybe even the grassroots?
[00:14:25]  What was your poison in the 60s?
[00:14:28]  I'm sorry, James.
[00:14:29]  Mine was Jefferson Airplane, the Rolling Stones.
[00:14:36]  I grew up in the 60s.
[00:14:37]  I lived in the Bay Area, James.
[00:14:39]  We would go see these movies.
[00:14:40]  You were in drug detox most of that time, right?
[00:14:43]  Well, no, I'm not going to admit anything like that, Keith, but I will tell you, I have seen the Grateful Dead in the Jefferson Airplane live at Golden Gate Park, and I didn't have to pay.
[00:14:52]  I will tell you that.
[00:14:53]  What about the Bo Brummels?
[00:14:54]  They were from San Francisco.
[00:14:56]  Did you like them?
[00:14:57]  Yeah, they're a little earlier.
[00:14:59]  You know, I like some of that stuff, and I like Herman's Hermits.
[00:15:02]  I had a cousin that's out there.
[00:15:04]  There we go now.
[00:15:06]  You know, Rosen's set on the Herman's Hermits.
[00:15:10]  I really, I've heard you talking before, James.
[00:15:12]  I like the Turtles.
[00:15:13]  Always did like the Turtles.
[00:15:14]  Yeah, there you go.
[00:15:15]  They had a lot of hits.
[00:15:16]  People don't realize that.
[00:15:17]  Like, She's My Girl is never played now, but that was a great song.
[00:15:23]  Oh, they had a great song.
[00:15:24]  But I also got to tell you, not to butter your bread there, you Southern boys, but.
[00:15:29]  I grew up as much with country music as I did with rock.
[00:15:32]  I mean, right from the beginning.
[00:15:34]  Yeah.
[00:15:34]  No, I had an uncle that sold advertisements at KSOP here in Salt Lake, and my grandpa used to listen to Clinton, Texas, every night when I'd be on the farm with him.
[00:15:45]  And I've always loved country music, the real stuff, not the Nashville.
[00:15:50]  Tell me who the artists were that you really liked.
[00:15:54]  Back in the day?
[00:15:55]  I'm on the spot.
[00:15:56]  Yeah.
[00:15:56]  Oh, no, no.
[00:15:57]  About country music?
[00:15:58]  Oh, absolutely.
[00:15:59]  Merle Haggard.
[00:16:00]  Johnny Cash, B2 right there a little bit later.
[00:16:03]  Hank Williams Jr.
[00:16:04]  I actually like Hank Williams Sr. quite a bit, too.
[00:16:07]  And I also like swing music, Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys.
[00:16:11]  I mean, we can talk a little music here.
[00:16:13]  Well, you know, we try to never go a show without it, and it's never forced.
[00:16:18]  It's just sort of just bubbles up, as it were.
[00:16:21]  But, well, you know, if I'm real sad.
[00:16:24]  And if I'm real sad about the singing chair of Fair Young, I listen to some Fair Young, but I'll tell you, you know, if I'm really crying in my beer, I got to hear a little George Jones.
[00:16:34]  Too.
[00:16:34]  I mean, it just has to happen.
[00:16:36]  Yeah.
[00:16:36]  Like white lightning.
[00:16:38]  Yeah.
[00:16:39]  When Keith was rolling up today, he was listening to Islands in the Stream by Dolly Parton.
[00:16:44]  No, I wasn't.
[00:16:48]  All right.
[00:16:48]  Well, every time I talk to Lou, I like him a little bit more.
[00:16:52]  And it's just, we're like an overflow.
[00:16:54]  The initial attraction was you both have the same haircut.
[00:16:57]  Well, I mean, yeah, we're both handsome.
[00:16:59]  You know, handsome appreciates handsome, but we do have the same.
[00:17:04]  And we take a lot of money on the barber.
[00:17:05]  Too.
[00:17:05]  Hey, you know what?
[00:17:06]  I have to take my son to the barbershop and talk about affordability, Lou.
[00:17:11]  It's $25 for a boy's haircut now, pre tip.
[00:17:15]  $25 for a boy.
[00:17:18]  I mean, how's anybody supposed to make it?
[00:17:21]  That has to hurt the incumbent party.
[00:17:22]  Now, if they weren't redistricting all over the place, the Republicans would be wiped out, and maybe they still will.
[00:17:28]  But affordability is going to be a big problem for anybody who's sitting at the head table of this mess.
[00:17:34]  Yeah, no, it's absolutely true.
[00:17:36]  And I just don't see Trump really coming across.
[00:17:40]  With substantive items in that area or having the ability to do so at this point.
[00:17:45]  I don't see the interest rates coming down.
[00:17:47]  Of course, he doesn't have total control of that.
[00:17:49]  I don't even see an end to this war, which has been terrible.
[00:17:53]  Yahoo's totally in charge of that, and the last thing he wants is an end to this war.
[00:17:58]  The end of this war will mean the end of his tenure as prime minister.
[00:18:03]  I mean, Lou, I'm just reading tea leaves here, and I could be totally wrong.
[00:18:05]  It seems as though Trump is somewhat reticent about this, but every time he tries to pull back, Israel does something that forces him to stay involved.
[00:18:12]  I mean, I don't know if that's true or if he's just totally on board.
[00:18:16]  I think that's as good as gold, James.
[00:18:21]  I don't know what's on his mind, but I think politically, I mean, all the scoop I'm hearing, Susie Wiles, a political operation, they're apoplectic about this war at this point.
[00:18:30]  I mean, they're not.
[00:18:31]  But Bill Clinton used to wake up every morning in the White House.
[00:18:34]  What's the gas price today?
[00:18:36]  Every day.
[00:18:37]  Every day.
[00:18:39]  That is, you know, that's where the political head is at.
[00:18:42]  And it ain't going to be.
[00:18:43]  That's probably the last Democrat president that had any sense.
[00:18:48]  On some levels, I think.
[00:18:49]  That's another topic unto itself, I'm sure.
[00:18:53]  Keith, I'm scarred by the Clintons.
[00:18:55]  I was in the Congress in the 90s.
[00:18:57]  My boss was on the Whitewater Committee.
[00:19:00]  We watched that slithering SOB get.
[00:19:04]  I mean, Clinton figured out.
[00:19:06]  He was not one of the good guys, but on the other hand, he had enough gumption to tell his wife to cool it on the health care and stuff like that.
[00:19:16]  He knew what sold on Main Street and what didn't.
[00:19:20]  He didn't always do it.
[00:19:21]  He turned his whole campaign over to Jesse Helms.
[00:19:26]  Political guru Dick Morris.
[00:19:28]  That's what happened in 96.
[00:19:31]  That's probably an LSD flashback for him or something.
[00:19:34]  It was funny.
[00:19:34]  Dick Morris became like some sort of a quasi conservative for Fox News later.
[00:19:40]  He actually said some things that I liked eventually.
[00:19:43]  I never thought I'd say that.
[00:19:44]  He worked for Jesse Helms before Clinton.
[00:19:48]  He was with Helms before Clinton.
[00:19:49]  Anyway, yeah, I mean, you talk to Stephanopoulos, I haven't talked to him about it, but you hear Stephanopoulos write about it and some of these other lefties were around Clinton.
[00:19:58]  I mean, when Morris came in, I mean, it was like the Prince of Darkness had arrived.
[00:20:02]  And yeah, he shut Hillary up.
[00:20:04]  He shut Stephanopoulos up.
[00:20:06]  And suddenly, every time Clinton's on television, there's 100 uniformed cops behind him.
[00:20:11]  And, you know, he was against gay marriage.
[00:20:14]  And, I mean, he was going to take care of everything.
[00:20:16]  No illegals.
[00:20:17]  I mean, the whole thing.
[00:20:18]  You know, that whole thing, what you're talking about right now.
[00:20:22]  No, no, what was it?
[00:20:24]  Don't ask, don't tell.
[00:20:26]  Well, I mean, you know, certainly that was better than just forced.
[00:20:29]  You know, sodomy, but it still was a far cry from good.
[00:20:33]  But, you know, it's interesting.
[00:20:34]  We got to get off this.
[00:20:35]  We got to get back.
[00:20:36]  I want to talk to you about elections that are going on now and the one that just wrapped up in Ohio with Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:20:43]  But I will say this very quickly about the Clintons.
[00:20:45]  They were nothing if not interesting.
[00:20:48]  Because we interviewed on this program Gary Byrne, who was a White House Secret Service agent.
[00:20:54]  He was inside the Oval Office.
[00:20:56]  He wrote a book about his time there.
[00:20:57]  I met him at the Republican National Convention in 2016 when I was up there with Sam Bushman.
[00:21:02]  And when Trump won that nomination.
[00:21:05]  But he came on and he wrote a whole book about it.
[00:21:08]  He is very forthcoming about, you know, Hillary would get vases and throw them at Bill and they would just fight and attack you.
[00:21:15]  You know, she would attack you.
[00:21:17]  Fascinating stuff.
[00:21:19]  I mean, as far as soap operas are concerned.
[00:21:21]  But I mean, you know, I guess that happens in, you know, more households than just the white one.
[00:21:25]  But nevertheless, interesting era in American politics, the Clinton era.
[00:21:32]  But, you know, Another topic entirely.
[00:21:37]  Well, it tells you how bad the Democratic Party is, that he was the best one of the past 30 years.
[00:21:43]  That's a point.
[00:21:44]  All right.
[00:21:45]  Well, and again, that's not saying much.
[00:21:47]  But let's talk about Ohio.
[00:21:50]  Monkey Sean's behind us now, Lou.
[00:21:52]  Ohio.
[00:21:53]  So you had this, you know, America First guy, Casey Putch, who was running this insurgency candidacy on behalf of, at least purportedly on behalf of our issues against Vivek Ramaswamy, who basically has told, you know, white Republicans to go to hell.
[00:22:12]  They're going to be replaced for all intents and purposes.
[00:22:15]  God, Indians.
[00:22:16]  And he just gets trounced, what, like 86% to 14% in the Ohio primary, and he was very much the internet alt right, you know, if that's even still a thing, or the, you know, America First candidate, and he didn't even make a dent.
[00:22:33]  I liked a lot of the things he said.
[00:22:35]  I don't know what happened there, but now you've got Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:22:38]  I mean, you can certainly talk about the primaries if you want to, but now you've got Vivek Ramaswamy going up against Amy Acton.
[00:22:45]  Does he have a Chinaman's chance or a Hindu's chance?
[00:22:48]  And this is a guy that Trump has carried.
[00:22:51]  I mean, I haven't looked at a lot of data on that race, but I would be very concerned that he could win because Ohio is shifting.
[00:23:01]  And I've talked to people directly about this, and I've been paying attention to pollsters that I respect.
[00:23:08]  And, you know, again, MAGA is not so MAGA these days.
[00:23:13]  And Ohio is a populist state.
[00:23:16]  Ohio didn't just magically turn solidly Republican because they all decided to be Republicans, country club Republicans up there.
[00:23:25]  They like the Trump message.
[00:23:26]  They like the re industrialization message.
[00:23:29]  They like the immigration message.
[00:23:32]  And, you know, Ramaswamy just doesn't get the job done on all of that.
[00:23:37]  But he is.
[00:23:37]  He's a super smooth talker.
[00:23:39]  I mean, Steve King liked him.
[00:23:42]  And Steve King was a good guy.
[00:23:43]  Yeah, he's a good guy.
[00:23:45]  And I got nothing against him.
[00:23:47]  I don't know him personally, but, you know, I don't trust him.
[00:23:50]  He comes out of the corporate world.
[00:23:52]  He's all about H 1B visas and all the kind of things I hate.
[00:23:55]  The worst thing is he comes out of India and they basically, you know, They are the most ethnically chauvinistic group there is out there, even more so than Jews and blacks.
[00:24:08]  Yeah, well, anyway, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I'm just looking at the politics of it.
[00:24:15]  I think this is not a great year in particular for him.
[00:24:20]  I don't know the Democrat.
[00:24:21]  I'd have to look at her.
[00:24:23]  But I don't think the issue says now we're talking statewide, we're not looking at gerrymandered districts.
[00:24:30]  I would be extremely concerned about being able to hold that seat.
[00:24:35]  You're talking about a gubernatorial seat here, which I.
[00:24:37]  Okay, so we're going to come back here.
[00:24:39]  Let's put a president.
[00:24:39]  I was going to go gubernatorial.
[00:24:40]  I'm sorry.
[00:24:41]  I said senatorial.
[00:24:41]  But no, no, no.
[00:24:42]  That's important, too, because you've got Virginia, Ohio versus.
[00:24:47]  I think Jared Brown on my mind.
[00:24:49]  He's running for Senate there, but no, no, you're right.
[00:24:52]  We'll be right back with some more.

=== Gubernatorial Factor and Opponent Risks (16:07) ===

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[00:30:07]  And we're back with Lou Moore staying on with us for extended play tonight as we break down a seismic shift potentially in American politics and so much more.
[00:30:22]  The redistricting of the Supreme Court's ruling on the Voting Rights Act and other races that are going on right now, including the gubernatorial primary on the Republican side in the state of Ohio.
[00:30:35]  Get back to that in just a moment, but I do want to mention just Just circle back very quickly here, Lou, for two reasons.
[00:30:41]  Number one, you mentioned Steve King.
[00:30:43]  And number two, I'm looking at the date right now here on my monitor here in the studio.
[00:30:50]  And it was almost a year ago to the day.
[00:30:53]  I think we're a couple of weeks shy of the date, but a year ago to the day that you and I and Steve King and Steve Stockman and Keith Alexander and Philip DeWinter and people like Sam Dixon and other people that we can't mention, including a young man who's running for the.
[00:31:11]  State legislature and his respective state, and other speakers to be sure, were all together for a conference in Greenville, South Carolina.
[00:31:21]  That was a year ago this month, Lou.
[00:31:23]  And I've been doing this for a while, and I've put together dozens of conferences for different organizations and several for this radio program, of course.
[00:31:33]  That was one that certainly stands out.
[00:31:35]  And I just wanted to very quickly be sure to thank you for being there and being a Big part of that.
[00:31:44]  I enjoyed it thoroughly, James.
[00:31:47]  I appreciated the invite.
[00:31:50]  Well, you gave a great talk.
[00:31:51]  You mentioned Mac the Knife earlier.
[00:31:52]  I did do a live impromptu rendition of that, backed by a live guitar and piano player, I might add.
[00:32:02]  But no, that was a special conference, and it seemed as though that was when it was all ahead of us yet.
[00:32:09]  And that was a year ago now, and we were all still brimming with enthusiasm from.
[00:32:14]  All of the actions that Trump had taken in his first few weeks in office.
[00:32:18]  But, you know, things have changed, but yet here still we are.
[00:32:23]  So I'll say this about Steve King.
[00:32:25]  I called Steve one day a couple of years ago, and I said, Steve, what are you up to?
[00:32:31]  And he said, Well, I'm actually on a bus right now.
[00:32:34]  I got Candace Owens on one side of me and Vivek Ramaswamy on the other, and it's about negative 47 wind chill.
[00:32:39]  This was when Vivek was running, I think, for president in the primaries back in 24.
[00:32:46]  And he said, You know, what are you up to, James?
[00:32:48]  And I said, Well, I don't want to.
[00:32:50]  I said, Can you be in Orlando next week?
[00:32:53]  I said, It's a long story, but I'm speaking at this conference.
[00:32:56]  This was a conference that Lauren Witzke and Payman Montejeda had put together.
[00:33:00]  And, you know, Laura Loomer and Stew Peters had gotten into a fight, and they ended up neither of them coming, and they needed somebody to come on, and then short notice.
[00:33:10]  And Steve got in his car and drove from Iowa to Orlando on basically a moment's notice.
[00:33:19]  And that was a great event.
[00:33:20]  And anyway, that's an aside.
[00:33:24]  He's a great man, James.
[00:33:27]  I didn't agree with his selection for president last time, but I think the world is Steve King.
[00:33:35]  I do too.
[00:33:36]  And I have this picture of all of us together with Philip, who flew over from Europe a year ago this month.
[00:33:44]  It's just a great thing when people can come together and work for a greater cause.
[00:33:48]  And we have good people.
[00:33:50]  It doesn't mean we agree with them on everything all the time.
[00:33:53]  But it means as though we are mature enough to set aside petty disagreements for all the other things that we do agree on.
[00:34:01]  He's a great man.
[00:34:02]  You're a great man.
[00:34:03]  We do the best we can here, down here in Memphis.
[00:34:06]  I'll probably fall short of the standard of great, but we do work with great people.
[00:34:13]  And anyway, Lou, I am always privileged to have your company.
[00:34:19]  Now, let's go back to Ohio and this thing with Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:34:24]  He trounced this internet sensation Casey Pudge, and it's going to set him up to go against the Democratic nominee, I believe, the Jewish Amy Acton.
[00:34:38]  And I think that she's probably going to beat him.
[00:34:41]  I think that they're going to lose this seat.
[00:34:43]  Now, if you have to lose, and the Republicans haven't learned this lesson totally yet, although they're doing better.
[00:34:50]  But when you run this black woman in Virginia and she loses, you lose that gubernatorial seat.
[00:34:58]  You have this situation with Vivek Ramaswamy.
[00:35:01]  I think he's going to lose that seat in Ohio.
[00:35:03]  I would rather lose state governor mansions than.
[00:35:09]  Congressional seats or senatorial seats.
[00:35:12]  Yeah, so anyway, I mean, a final word on Ohio.
[00:35:17]  Yeah, well, I guess I will slightly disagree with you.
[00:35:21]  I'd rather win the governor's seat.
[00:35:23]  They actually have power.
[00:35:25]  Oh, totally.
[00:35:26]  Absolutely.
[00:35:28]  Governors have real power.
[00:35:30]  Legislators have makeup on and they look for TV lights all day long and they look for their orders from headquarters, wherever it is.
[00:35:38]  And yes, of course, they have power.
[00:35:40]  But the.
[00:35:43]  It's hard to even measure on many levels the power of any governor of any of these 50 states.
[00:35:50]  So I'll say that.
[00:35:51]  I mean, as far as Ramaswamy, you know, he's just, I mean, he's not my cup of tea.
[00:35:57]  This other guy never had a prayer.
[00:35:59]  Ramaswamy had huge name ID.
[00:36:01]  Trump came in for him.
[00:36:03]  If you remember, he was in all these debates kind of as a stand in for Trump, all these GOP debates back when they were having those phony debates with DeSantis and Nikki Haley.
[00:36:15]  And, you know, Ramaswamy's very articulate, and he was basically standing in for Trump.
[00:36:22]  And so he had a MAGA constituency.
[00:36:25]  And I think people need to look a little closer where he's really coming from, and they wouldn't be so excited.
[00:36:31]  And this fella, Push, I think he's from a little town that my wife's family's from in Ohio.
[00:36:38]  But anyway, I mean, he never had a shot.
[00:36:42]  I heard him talk a couple of times.
[00:36:43]  I liked what he had to say.
[00:36:45]  But it just, he didn't have the wherewithal.
[00:36:48]  That's a big state.
[00:36:50]  That's big league politics to run statewide in Ohio, whether it's a Senate race or a gubernatorial race.
[00:36:55]  And he just, you know, he's new.
[00:36:58]  He's not ready.
[00:36:58]  He wasn't ready for prime time.
[00:37:00]  Had a very tough opponent.
[00:37:02]  But on the other hand, his opponent is going to have one hell of a time getting through this general election.
[00:37:08]  I don't think it's going to happen.
[00:37:09]  Yeah, I was just listening to someone who is actually a friend of mine.
[00:37:14]  I was listening to him on podcast, who's a pollster.
[00:37:18]  And he is predicting one of these.
[00:37:20]  Two seats that they're bragging about.
[00:37:22]  Oh, we've switched.
[00:37:23]  It's a GOP seat now.
[00:37:25]  It's got a gal named Marcy Kaptur, who's a Democrat incumbent from the time I was back there in the 90s.
[00:37:33]  And he's predicting she's going to hold that seat, even though it's now R5.
[00:37:36]  And that's because she's a populist.
[00:37:39]  I mean, I'm not going to say what she really is, but she's for the working people.
[00:37:43]  She is against all these trade agreements, blah, blah, blah.
[00:37:47]  And we're running all these country clubbers all over the.
[00:37:51]  This political operation around Trump is a complete disaster.
[00:37:55]  In my opinion.
[00:37:56]  And don't talk to me about Thomas Massey and Ken Paxton and some of these other races.
[00:38:01]  I mean, oh, geez.
[00:38:04]  Well, just how good would Ramaswamy be if he gets in?
[00:38:08]  That's my big question.
[00:38:09]  I would worry.
[00:38:10]  I mean, I'm just going to guess.
[00:38:12]  I don't know a thing about his opponent, his general election opponent.
[00:38:16]  Excuse me.
[00:38:17]  But I would guess he would be better than that.
[00:38:19]  But, you know, he's just not the kind of guy I would like to see promoted and going up to the chairs, you know, regardless of his background, anything else.
[00:38:29]  I mean, he's just a corporate guy.
[00:38:33]  He was at one time at the World Economic Forum.
[00:38:37]  I just can't see him being a big advocate for unemployed Ohio blue collar workers.
[00:38:43]  No, and he was lecturing essentially white America on how their culture is inferior and all this stuff.
[00:38:50]  I mean, this guy, he doesn't get it.
[00:38:52]  First of all, he doesn't know how to talk to the blue collar electorate of Ohio.
[00:38:57]  And secondly, I think he does believe a lot of that stuff, which is really scary.
[00:39:01]  But yeah, so I'm not a fan, and I think he's probably going to have a big problem.
[00:39:08]  If India has a better culture than America, why is India such a hellhole?
[00:39:13]  Somebody needs to ask him this.
[00:39:14]  I think that's a fair question to ask, Keith.
[00:39:16]  I think that's a reasonable question, reasonable people would ask.
[00:39:21]  I'm at libertynewsradio.com right now.
[00:39:23]  I'm browsing through the archives of Lou Moore's Hour of Decision.
[00:39:27]  It's a weekly podcast.
[00:39:29]  You need to listen to it just one hour a week.
[00:39:32]  A couple of weeks back, the topic was The Future of America First is Not MAGA.
[00:39:38]  Lou agrees that MAGA is.
[00:39:40]  Trump, but when Trump strays from America First and populist nationalist policies, that's a problem.
[00:39:45]  He goes into that.
[00:39:46]  And then I think that applies certainly to Vivek Ramaswamy as well.
[00:39:50]  He has said some things that we can agree with, but he's done a lot that we can certainly disagree with.
[00:39:55]  But his challenger was just a little bit too wet behind the ears.
[00:40:00]  We're coming to a break.
[00:40:02]  I want to ask Alou, before the music begins to play, about two insurgent candidacies in Florida.
[00:40:10]  One in A similar gubernatorial race with a similar uninteresting or uninspiring, I think is the word I want to find here uninspiring candidate, Byron Donalds, to take the latest black Republican savior.
[00:40:29]  Yeah.
[00:40:30]  So, I mean, we saw how this played out in Virginia.
[00:40:33]  Now, you know, in Ohio, we'll see what happens now that you have, you know, the Indian nominee for the GOP going up against the Democrat.
[00:40:44]  What's going to happen in Florida?
[00:40:46]  Well, you have James Fishback, who's the internet du jour candidate, versus Byron Donalds.
[00:40:52]  And then you have this interesting congressional race between Dan Bilzerian and Randy Fine.
[00:40:56]  We'll get Lou's take on that and some final words.
[00:41:00]  Stay tuned.

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[00:43:20]  Little girl who used to hang around my door, but she sure looks different than the way she looked before.
[00:43:30]  Who ever said the monkeys were just bubblegum pop?
[00:43:40]  That guitar riff on Valerie winks at punk, and when David Jones would do that song in concert, when he would get to the line.
[00:43:50]  She sure looks different than the way she looked before.
[00:43:52]  He would do this trace of a woman's hourglass figure.
[00:43:55]  And don't we all like what they developed?
[00:43:58]  Well, that was the Monkey's last big hit, I think.
[00:44:01]  And they were fading out by then.
[00:44:03]  But I had a girlfriend named Valerie at the time.
[00:44:06]  So that was.
[00:44:08]  You played that on your eight track.
[00:44:10]  Right, yeah.
[00:44:12]  Now, if you ever want to see Song of the South on VHS, you just need to go to Keith's house and.
[00:44:21]  Got them all, man.
[00:44:22]  Okay.
[00:44:24]  All right.
[00:44:24]  Well, anyway, one more segment with Lou Moore.
[00:44:28]  And Lou, I tell you, 90 minutes has never gone so fast.
[00:44:33]  Let's talk about the situation in Florida with these insurgent candidacies of Dan Bizarian.
[00:44:42]  He's running against Randy Fine.
[00:44:44]  Basically, his message is Randy Fine.
[00:44:46]  And I'm not trying to be crude or be funny or cute, but his message is Randy Fine is a fat Jew.
[00:44:54]  He said that on TMZ with the guy on TMZ, Keith.
[00:45:00]  Yeah, I'm a lawyer.
[00:45:01]  Oh, yeah, a Jewish guy.
[00:45:04]  I remember that.
[00:45:05]  What's his name?
[00:45:06]  Well, I'm not asking you, but anyway.
[00:45:09]  But that's basically his message.
[00:45:11]  And, you know, it's not untrue.
[00:45:12]  I mean, both of those facts are true.
[00:45:15]  And then James Fishback, who is a big internet sensation, but he's running against a totally weak candidate, as we have seen in Virginia and I think, frankly, in Ohio put forth.
[00:45:28]  What do you think about these candidacies, Lou?
[00:45:30]  I'd call him Randy Not So Fine.
[00:45:32]  Well, I mean, so Lou, I mean, you have operated on a level of seriousness with a sitting member of Congress, and then you ran Ron Paul's historic presidential campaign in 2008.
[00:45:45]  What do you think about candidates like Dan Bilzerian and James Fishback, who are saying a lot of the things we would agree with, but, you know, how do we weaponize that into actual wins?
[00:46:00]  Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, I think they're both a manifestation of what's going to be a growing situation in our electorate, which is the youth are not buying the old okey doke about Israel anymore.
[00:46:15]  They're not buying it.
[00:46:17]  And this is why, I mean, this has come out now.
[00:46:20]  And they've even, unlike the Israel lobby, they've actually registered three organizations with Farah that have like $800 million between them.
[00:46:31]  To influence evangelical churches, to influence people that are on the social media platforms, et cetera, because they know they are losing the youth.
[00:46:44]  And that's what I'm saying.
[00:46:44]  James is your go to man on evangelicals.
[00:46:47]  You need to ask him if they're making any inroads with the evangelicals.
[00:46:50]  Well, I haven't been an evangelical youth in 25 years.
[00:46:53]  I keep going blue.
[00:46:56]  But anyway, so you're going to have more candidates like this.
[00:47:01]  Now, I'm not real familiar with either one of these races.
[00:47:03]  I did hear a fairly long.
[00:47:05]  Interview that Tucker did with Fishback, and I also heard him on another podcast.
[00:47:09]  He's an interesting figure.
[00:47:11]  I don't think he's got any chance of winning.
[00:47:15]  I agree that we are not showing the strongest candidate in Florida.
[00:47:21]  And again, Florida is another state that just a few years ago was not solidly GOP.
[00:47:29]  It wasn't.
[00:47:30]  It just wasn't.
[00:47:31]  And to assume, isn't it, we're GOP forever and we can just put up anybody and they can be our governor or whatever.
[00:47:39]  What's happened here, Jane?
[00:47:41]  You know, Lou, why are we picking people like Byron Donald?
[00:47:47]  Well, I will say, I will just say, Byron Donald is a much better put together candidate than like the gal that was running up in Virginia.
[00:47:58]  I mean, she was an awful candidate.
[00:48:01]  Byron Donald is very articulate.
[00:48:05]  He stood up and he opposed McCarthy and stood there with Matt Gaetz when there was only like eight of them to get rid of McCarthy.
[00:48:14]  And he spilled some cred.
[00:48:17]  In the conservative movement, he's not my cup of tea on a number of levels.
[00:48:20]  I have not liked a number of things he said.
[00:48:24]  And, but, you know, I mean, he's got some cred and he's got a big political machine behind him because he backed DeSantis down, who wants to run his wife for governor.
[00:48:35]  That was supposed to be the plan there in Florida.
[00:48:38]  And, you know, I am not way familiar with everything going on.
[00:48:42]  But, anyhow, I am sure we could have come up with a better candidate, but this is who.
[00:48:49]  This is who's kind of left standing and Fishback.
[00:48:52]  But, you know, it's not so much, oh, can Fishback win or all this?
[00:48:57]  It's more, he's an indicator of the future.
[00:49:01]  I mean, not a lot different.
[00:49:02]  James than Buchanan was a picture of the future.
[00:49:09]  I mean, if I was on a talk show in 2000, I'd have to say, I don't think Pat's going to make it this time.
[00:49:14]  But that doesn't mean that there wasn't a ton, and I mean a ton of validity, and there's very few people.
[00:49:22]  In public life over the last 40 years, that I respected more than Pat Buchanan.
[00:49:26]  And I voted for him how many times?
[00:49:28]  Every time, three times.
[00:49:30]  But, uh, but anyway, so, Lou, who is these candidates?
[00:49:34]  Is it, uh, the Florida Republican Party?
[00:49:40]  Is it the National Republican Party?
[00:49:42]  Yeah, there's always big money and consultants that pick candidates.
[00:49:49]  Although occasionally somebody just, you know, a guy like Steve King just, Somehow he went through civics class and he thought, well, I can run for office if I'd like.
[00:49:58]  And, you know, they don't like people like that.
[00:49:59]  But, but, but, but, I mean, so there is people like that.
[00:50:02]  But generally, you know, and I don't have any inside baseball about Byron Donalds in Florida.
[00:50:08]  But he was put up a long time back to block out DeSantis' wife.
[00:50:15]  That I know.
[00:50:16]  I don't know much more than that.
[00:50:17]  And as far as Randy Fine, I mean, oh my God, that guy is just, he is so embarrassed.
[00:50:25]  I think AIPAC is picking these people.
[00:50:29]  Well, I almost think in the case of Randy Fine, that's an anti Semitic op because he is like the stereotype of the worst possible representative.
[00:50:42]  I mean, possible.
[00:50:44]  And of course, he was behind that terrible bill that DeSantis signed in Jerusalem with Benjamin Netanyahu that will restrict the First Amendment.
[00:50:54]  That is one of the most.
[00:50:56]  We don't have time tonight.
[00:50:57]  I'm really on this, though, now, guys, about our First Amendment.
[00:51:01]  And to go to sleep at the switch just because Trump is in office, we are in serious trouble as far as the First Amendment and the whole civil liberties area.
[00:51:11]  But anyway, he's no good.
[00:51:13]  Bizarrean, I don't know much about him.
[00:51:15]  I don't see how he is going to fly with all these retirees down there.
[00:51:19]  But I don't really know the district that well.
[00:51:22]  I'm not an expert on Florida.
[00:51:24]  But he's a manifestation of a restless youth.
[00:51:27]  Both these guys are.
[00:51:29]  Are you Canarian Jewish or not?
[00:51:31]  No, Bizarrean's Armenian.
[00:51:32]  I mean, he's very anti Jewish.
[00:51:34]  Really?
[00:51:35]  Okay.
[00:51:35]  Oh, very much.
[00:51:36]  But Dan Bazarian, if you don't know him, if anybody doesn't know him, he needs a card.
[00:51:42]  But no, I mean, his whole thing is running against Jewish power and influence.
[00:51:47]  That is his whole campaign.
[00:51:49]  I mean, I've not heard him talk about any other issue.
[00:51:51]  Hallelujah.
[00:51:52]  Well, I mean, okay, that's fine, but it's not going to win.
[00:51:55]  And it just comes down to the utility of running candidates to get the issues out there in a public way, which he will be able to do because he is wealthy and commands media attention.
[00:52:05]  Well, Jay Men's with IAN, so he has.
[00:52:08]  Be Armenian.
[00:52:09]  All right.
[00:52:09]  So, I mean, yes, so there is that.
[00:52:11]  And it just comes down to how much, you know, good is going to be put forth by protest candidates versus people who can actually win.
[00:52:20]  But Randy Fine's definitely going to hold that.
[00:52:22]  The Kardashians are Armenian, too.
[00:52:24]  Well, let me ask you this, Lou.
[00:52:25]  We've got a minute left.
[00:52:26]  We mentioned the name earlier.
[00:52:28]  Nick Fuentes said last week that if the Democrats win, they will kill us all.
[00:52:34]  And then he said this week that we need to vote for Democrats to teach the GOP a lesson.
[00:52:41]  No, I follow him pretty close, James, because a lot of youth are listening to him.
[00:52:48]  So, therefore, I try to listen to him, not because I'm young.
[00:52:52]  But anyway, so I think his point is in the midterms, if you elect Democrats, it will humble the Republican establishment and cow them, and then they come back roaring in the presidential.
[00:53:08]  I don't agree with this.
[00:53:10]  I don't agree with this.
[00:53:11]  But I don't think he really contradicted himself.
[00:53:13]  I mean, I don't know what quotes you're pulling, but I've listened to him.
[00:53:16]  I also listen to Alex Jones quite a bit.
[00:53:19]  He's on Alex's show all the time, big two hour segments.
[00:53:23]  And he explained this whole thing.
[00:53:24]  I mean, he's looking for an America first candidate for 28.
[00:53:30]  And I don't know who that's going to be.
[00:53:32]  And he doesn't either.
[00:53:33]  But what's going to happen, though, if they get control of Congress and the Senate, they're going to impeach.
[00:53:44]  Trump, and I guess that will put Vance in there.
[00:53:48]  What do you think of Vance versus Rubio, or who do you think is going to wind up being the Republican?
[00:53:53]  And there comes the music.
[00:53:54]  LibertyNewsRadio.com.
[00:53:56]  Go to Lou Moore's Hour episode.
[00:53:58]  The music's playing.
[00:54:00]  Yeah.
[00:54:00]  So Vance is playing the game with Marion Adelson and the big money, and he's also Palantir, and I don't trust him.
[00:54:08]  What about Rubio?
[00:54:10]  I don't trust him at all.
[00:54:12]  I don't trust either one of them.
[00:54:14]  All he wants to do is invade Cuba.
[00:54:17]  Well, hey, listen, I mean, by September of 2000, all I wanted to do was elect Al Gore to stick it to the Republicans because I was a Buchanan guy.
[00:54:32]  It's a different time now.
[00:54:33]  I don't know if making it hurt so bad we almost die is the way we win, but we'll see.
[00:54:40]  We'll see what happens.
[00:54:41]  I mean, the Republicans are still making mistakes, but they have done some good here with this ridiculous.
[00:54:46]  district thing.
[00:54:47]  We'll continue to monitor it and