Dec. 14, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Gotta love Steve King and Lou Moore and gotta
love this time of year here on TPC.
James Edwards and Keith Alexander back with you.
And I have to tell you, folks, I had an entirely different show planned for tonight.
The only thing that stayed the same was we were going to have Steve and Lou on.
I wanted to do that for the reasons we stated in the first hour, to bring them back after we started the year with them.
And that led to a conference which is still producing fruit and more collaborations are spawning off from that.
And it was just a wonderful thing.
Out of all the conferences I've put on, going back to the Buchanan campaign, all the way through for different organizations for this radio program, I don't think there's ever been one that has had such an effect in terms of real-world activism.
And I mean, they're always wonderful inso much as it's a time of fellowship, a time of being together.
But that one was more practical in Greenville this year, inso much as it was intended to launch projects and candidacies and get things done above and beyond just bringing people together to solidify relationships and grow them.
That's very valuable.
Every conference I've ever done has had purpose and value.
There's no doubt about it.
But this one was different.
This one is different.
And that's why we're still talking about it.
But the thing that changed was I repurposed a couple of guests and hours that we had on deck tonight because, you know, I do a feature for the American Free Press.
Every issue, I have a Q ⁇ A in the American Free Press.
If you like the show, you're going to love the paper.
It's basically a 10-part Q ⁇ A with different guests that we interview here on the program.
And it's a wonderful compliment to the work we do here on the air, and it expands our reach and gets us into the world of print media, old school, newspaper with a lot of subscribers.
But it is the last issue of the year for American Free Press.
It's going to press on Wednesday.
And my concept for this one was, let's interview, well, not interview.
Normally it's one guest, and it's a 10-part Q ⁇ A that runs a lot of different issues.
This one, though, it was 10 different guests all asked the same question.
That is, rate Trump on a scale of 0 to 10, and then give me two paragraphs that explain and defend your rating, your grade.
And I pitched it to the editor, Paul Angel, who is an angel.
I mean, he's great.
I love him.
Chris Petherick and Paul Angel are editors at American Free Press.
I've been working with them for years.
They're great guys.
And he said, actually, this is just such a good idea.
Why don't we make it a four-page feature and you can have twice your normal word count allotment?
So we expanded it, and we ended up getting seven different American contributors and seven different international contributors.
So what we're going to do here, it's a diverse panel, a diverse mix of both American and international respondents that I assembled to evaluate President Trump's first year back in office.
And so what we're going to do here is I'm going to offer the play-by-play, and Keith's going to offer the color commentary.
We're basically going to give you a sneak peek preview into what will be published by American Free Press next week and sent out all over the country.
And again, what I wanted to do with this was bring in people who have a lot of skin in the game, people whose name commands immediate respect, immediately recognizable.
These are people who have suffered, who have fought in some cases for decades, and in some cases longer than I've even been alive.
I'm 45 years old.
These people are the real deal.
And they have no reason to be anything other than honest.
I didn't want to bring in necessarily other commentators, other people who do live streams.
I think sometimes they are beholden to their audience.
They sometimes lean into the entertainment aspect of this.
We didn't want the fruit of the month club.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to read the responses, and then we're going to have Keith offer his response to the response and maybe pick up on some of the things that they mention.
And we're going to do this for the next two hours.
I think it's that good.
I think it's that interesting.
When you're offering grades and ratings on a president or an administration, a year in review thing, that's like catnip for political commentators.
Everybody likes it.
Everybody's interested in it.
I am interested in it.
And I do this for, you know, for my life.
And so that's what we're going to do.
And I hope that you'll enjoy it.
It was, to me, very interesting to see, as I said in the first hour, each individual response come in.
And these people didn't know what the other subjects were writing about.
So to see each individual response come in and then see the collective consensus begin to take shape.
Well, anyway, that's it.
The first is Dr. Virginia Abernethy, professor emerita of psychiatry at Vanderbilt University.
She gave Trump a 7 out of 10 rating.
And here's what she said, Keith.
I would have given a higher rating, but his uneven foreign policy has brought Trump down a bit.
I think it was very bad to bomb Iran and wrong to provide Zelensky with so much rope.
By disfavoring Russia, we push Russia and China closer together than they would have otherwise been, which is dangerous.
China is our most dangerous, possibly impulsive and aggressive adversary.
Recall, she writes, that the U.S. and our allies have been promising for decades that Ukraine would never join NATO.
Then, suddenly, President Biden invited Ukraine to join NATO, and Ukraine appeared delighted to accept.
One cannot blame Russia for feeling betrayed by the United States and our allies in this light.
Russia's attack on Ukraine seems almost reasonable.
Also, recall that Ukraine was part of Russia until Khrushchev declared its independence sometime, I think, in the 1950s.
Trump is trying to settle the mess, but he has not pushed Zelensky hard enough and has allowed too much money and material to flow Zelensky's way.
But she still ranks Trump seven of 10, but her interests primarily are foreign policy.
Your response to Virginia Abernethy's observations.
Well, I'm even stronger against the current policy on Ukraine.
I don't give two hoots in hell what the NATO members think.
They want us to fight wars for them.
We're daddy warbucks.
They want to fight the wars.
They decide what wars we're going to fight, and we've just financed them all.
I would like to see happen in Ukraine is for the money to stop flowing and say, all of you big talkers in NATO, if you want a war, belly up to the bar and start paying by the next round of drinks here.
That would put a quick end to all of this.
We need to have that type of principle.
We need to stop being the daddy warbucks for the world when it comes.
Basically, we're financing wars all over the world in every continent except Antarctica.
And we've got to find some way to get out of this system.
We were not anointed to be the world's policeman.
We don't need to do that.
We need to follow the advice of the founding fathers.
So I agree with her on that in principle.
On the other hand, I can't be too critical of Trump because Trump wants to get things done and to be effective on them.
For example, we don't need to tread lightly about things like Venezuela.
I think it's wonderful to say, if you're going to send, you know, narcotic drugs into our nation that are killing our citizens, you know, the traditional response is, well, that's the fault of the user, and we shouldn't get into that.
If we've got a country that is basically financing themselves or better or even worse, trying to undermine America by doing this, do like the Mossad does.
Just, you know, drop a few bombs on them, take them out.
Don't tell them this is a declaration of war on America when you're trying to poison and kill our citizens.
And you're talking about exclusively the drug cartels and not necessarily the governments and things like that as they have been wont to do.
Well, it just depends on, you know, I wouldn't take anything off the table.
I'd say we're going to try to stop this.
You need to cooperate with it.
If we think that you're resisting it, then we'll see what we have to do about that.
But on the other hand.
But you're not advocating for another misadventure in Venezuela.
Well, look, in Venezuela, I don't know what the situation is with Maduro.
We've talked about it with Jose Niño last week at Lincoln.
I know.
Well, on the other hand, I do think that we need to take strong action against the Maduro government if they are basically going to say, we don't, you know, we're not going to change our ways.
We're going to try to, you know, we're going to continue to shelter these, you know, cartels and let them, you know, poison American citizens.
If you're going to do that with your country, then I have no problem with saying that you pay the consequences.
That's interesting.
This is something that comes up.
We are going to pick up the pace in the next segment and for the remaining time we have together tonight going into the third hour.
We have 14 of these we're going to work through.
We've worked through one so far, Virginia Abernathy, but it did take me a moment at the top of this segment to sort of explain what we're going to be doing here.
A lot of issues are brought by this incredible panel of contributors, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and some common denominators that you'll see.
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Oh, yeah, we're cooking now, and we're cooking with this definitive, comprehensive review of President Trump's first year back in office.
I get emails, letters.
How should white nationalists view Trump?
Certainly, we have our opinions, which we share every week, but in terms of forming a consensus, I don't think anyone on our side has done more than what we're going to do and what we have done by compiling this particular group of 14 respondents to give you their takes.
I think if you put them all into a blender, what comes out is the position that pro-white advocates should have viewing this administration.
There are going to be some outliers out there, people who can find no good no matter what.
But for the serious people, this is it.
You just heard from Virginia Abernathy.
You don't get much more serious than that.
And here is Peter Brimelow, the former editor of Forbes magazine, the Wall Street Journal, and of course, V-DARE.
He gives Trump a 10 out of 10, the only perfect rating, although it's a, well, I won't say tongue-in-cheek.
Peter writes, he gets a 10 because he's not Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
I don't say this in jest.
It really is that simple.
The Biden administration was absolutely catastrophic, incipient communist coup, communist in content, but fascist in form because it often worked through private sector entities.
It turns out, Peter writes, for example, that it was the federal government that was pressuring banks to force payment processors to drop dissident right content creators.
My wife, Lydia, and I mentioned we suspected this in our V-Dair Swan song videos.
A second Biden-Harris administration would have been worse.
Appropriate and simple.
The J6 martyrs would still be in jail.
Peter Brimelo concludes by writing this: Trump is.
And I love the nuance and the balance that each of these contributors, as we continue to flesh this out, you'll see it.
It's not too high or too low.
It's not too hard or too soft.
It is just honest good takes.
And here's the other side that Peter writes, even though he gives Trump 10 out of 10, Trump is infuriating in many ways, such as his rhetorical flip-flopping, Zionist whoring, and apparent inability to get congressional Republicans to actually do anything.
Keith, you brought that up a moment ago.
But from my immigration-obsessed perspective, Peter writes, he has already triggered a serious exodus.
The foreign-born population has fallen by more than 2 million in 10 months.
He seems to be hampering legal immigration through regulatory changes, which also occurred during his first term.
And he's surfacing issues that VDARE.com was writing about going back 25 years: birthright citizenship, the refugee racket, cultural incompatibility of third world immigration, etc.
It all adds up.
Peter Brimelow, 10 out of 10.
Well, what he's saying basically is he's hearkening back to Sam Francis' famous concept of beautiful losers.
You can't have conservatives or people on the right that say, well, we need to do something about this, but we can't do this and we can't do that.
You know, because that's not good manners.
That's not the way to do things.
You've got to be principled, even if that means you're going to lose.
Well, look, a loser is a loser is a loser.
We need to start winning.
I think that's what, see, look at what happened to the Bremelos.
They were driven out of business by constant lawfare.
Well, people that do that lawfare, the government needs to hold them accountable.
They need to get them out of office, first of all, and put them in jail if necessary because they are misusing legal process.
And we need to stop being pussycats and be tigers when it comes to dealing with our enemies.
Okay.
Our next contributor to this feature that will be published in the next and final edition of the year of the American Free Press.
It's going to be a cover story.
I believe a four-page spread.
Reverend Jim Dawson, pastor of the Church of St. Mary Magdalene in Ireland.
You hear his ads on this show all the time.
Reverend Dawson grades Trump from Ireland seven out of 10.
This is again another lifer, another guy who has been involved in all sorts of activism.
And he writes, Trump has revolutionized politics not only in the United States, but has shocked Europe out of its slumber.
His ICE initiative has given us Brits hope and ended our government's mantra of there's nothing we can do about illegals here.
He has also sparked a massive reawakening of British patriotism and the belief that we ain't done yet among our people, which is manifested in the incredible rise of right-wing parties across many European nations.
I think he still has much to do, Reverend Dawson writes, to free America and his own administration from the steel grip of the Zionist and the Israel lobby.
But given his position and their strength, I think he is doing as much as he possibly can at present without having to dodge another assassin's bullet.
It is my earnest prayer that Donald Trump avoids the next election by whatever means, i.e. national emergency powers or martial law, so he can have another four years to crush the woke and the left.
May God guide him and defend him in the years ahead, and may God truly bless America.
If you fall, we will all fall.
That's a fact.
And that is the comment from Reverend Jim Dawson, who gave Trump a seven out of ten.
And this guy is a fighter, and it means something to me when I hear comments like that coming from someone like him.
Well, it's picking up on what I was saying and what you were saying before.
You've got to have someone.
You're not going to make an omelet without cracking some eggs.
And we need to have a leader that does not listen to the timid counsels of the establishment that say, oh, it sure is a shame that we have all these immigrants over here, but they really can't do anything about them.
They're here now and whatnot.
No, put them on the run.
Okay, this is what has to be done.
We have to have somebody that is more interested in winning than being a beautiful loser.
And that's what Jim Dawson is talking about.
We've got to understand that we're not talking about politics as usual.
This is survival, survival of the white race, the survival of Europe for Europeans and America for Americans.
And if we don't do this, then, you know, it's going to get to the point where we go beyond the point of no return.
Thank goodness Trump has stepped onto the stage at this point before all is lost.
And we, you know, as far as the Zionist situation, he's right.
What happened to the last U.S. president that really stood up to the Zionist and to the Jewish power and influence?
He was assassinated.
Guess by who?
Well, he doesn't want to wind up in the same situation.
If he can get good results without doing that or without cracking that particular egg, let's let him do it for the time being.
But on the other hand, eventually I do want to get out from under the control of Jewish power and influence.
And that is something that is a recurring theme throughout these.
And again, these 14 contributors to this piece did not know what each other were writing.
I mean, they sent in, they emailed me their answers, and I compiled them all and sent them into the editor.
And this will, again, be published next week.
You're getting the sneak peek here tonight on TPC.
But that is a recurring theme in a common denominator.
A lot of good things, but then there's the Jewish question.
And you see it time and time again as we begin to unpack these answers from these contributors.
But so far, Virginia Abernathy gives Trump a 7 out of 10, Peter Brimelow a 10 out of 10.
Reverend Jim Dawson from Ireland, a 7 out of 10.
Let's move over to our friend in Australia, Andrew Fraser, Professor Emeritus of Law at Macquarie University, who rates Trump the first year of the second Trump administration a 6 out of 10.
This is what Professor Fraser writes.
I live in a small town at the top of the Blue Mountains, about 50 miles from downtown Sydney.
The people here are generally Anglo-progressives in their outlook.
So back in 2016, I received a lot of dirty looks as I walked around proudly wearing a MAGA hat.
But Trump's first term was a bitter disappointment.
And so far, his second term hasn't been much better.
See, they don't always agree with one another.
And that's what I like about this is the diversity of opinion here.
He often talks big about immigration, for example.
Unfortunately, he never follows through with a consistent program of legislative and executive action.
For example, let's see a serious campaign to repeal the demographically disastrous 1965 Hart Seller Act.
Or how about penalizing corporations employing illegal aliens in flagrant disobedience of laws already on the books?
Even in that department, it gets worse.
Trump's mind seems to wander all over the map, even on immigration.
He criticizes European countries for their immigration policies, but then he turns and calls for an infinite number of H-1B Indians, apparently because there aren't enough white Americans possessing the stellar skills displayed by folks such as Kash Patel and Vivek Ramaswamy.
And what was the point of those up one day, down the next tariff policies?
Still, Andrew Fraser writes from Australia, I give him six out of 10 for showmanship.
Okay, this is getting right back to what we were talking about the last hour.
If he insists on judging him by his inability to remake the legislature, well, that's a tall task.
You're not going to be able to do that.
I would rather go for the jugular and stop illegal immigration by any means necessary.
I don't care whether he does it by changing the Heart Seller Act of 1965 or any of these other laws.
That's another job.
That's like the Zionist problem.
That's a task for another day.
The task for today is to stop the bleeding, okay?
Then we can get down and do the serious surgery to stop what is causing the bleeding.
But, well, there's another problem, too, that he's touching on, and that is that our situation in America and in Europe has got to be handled immediately, as best we can.
You can't insist that you tiptoe through the tulips and get the legislature on board and things like this.
We need to win.
We need to put some points on the board, and that's what he's doing.
How should you feel about Trump and the Trump administration one year into his second term?
I think the balance of each of these 14 reviews, critiques, and grades that we're going through tonight, the balance on that is where we should probably land.
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We really need to be able to compare the voter roles.
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And the fact of life is that these secretaries of state are supposed to be doing this work themselves.
Now, the federal government has some resources they don't have.
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a true story.
True story, folks.
I was probably 40 years old.
You know, I've listened to that song a million times and so many different versions of it.
I was probably 40 years old before I actually realized that mommy wasn't cheating on dad with Santa.
The dad was dressed as Santa.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, you hadn't seen the cartoons that go with the song before.
Anyway, welcome back, everybody.
I hope you're having a wonderful Christmas season.
We would love your Christmas time support here on the program.
Keeps our work going on the air and in the pages of American Free Press and keeps these conferences going and everything else we're involved with.
And we're doing a lot of good work and we're working with so many good people.
And so we're endeavoring to find out these last two hours of the program tonight, how should white conscious people feel about Trump.
And we're asking some of the most serious people we could think of.
Now, by no means are these the only 14 serious people we could think of.
Obviously, Jared Taylor would be a wonderful addition to this.
We're going to have his own feature Q ⁇ A in American Free Press coming up.
Mark Weber, Sam Dixon.
There's so many that aren't in this one that they could have been or should have been or whatever.
You know what I mean.
I mean, by no means are these the only people who have sound and reasonable opinions, but it is a good cross-section of our overall guest roster.
And we have a very deep bench here at TPC.
But this is a good cross-section of people both in the United States and abroad weighing in on Trump, people that have fought and suffered for our cause and for our race.
These are the peoples whose opinions I take most seriously.
And so you've already heard from a few of them.
Virginia Abernathy, Peter Brimelow, Jim Dawson in Ireland, and Andrew Fraser in Australia.
Let's move up to our northern neighbor in Canada, Paul Fromm, the director of the Canadian Association for Free Expression, grades Trump eight out of 10.
And this is a recurring theme, what he writes.
We heard it last week twice.
Paul Fromm writes, President Trump has done more for white Americans than any president since Calvin Coolidge.
And once again, that line, whose administration Paul provides, passed the Strict Immigration Act of 1924, which sought to preserve the racial balance in America.
Trump has banned the anti-white DEI in the federal government and its institutional funding.
He has closed the border to illegals, and he has begun the Herculean task of deporting at least the worst of Biden's invasion of illegals.
He has announced at least a temporary end to immigration from utterly incompatible third world countries.
He is taking on criminals, thieves, and grifters in the Somali community.
Sadly, Paul Fromm concludes, and again, you hear the good, the bad, the indifferent.
This is just great on-point commentary from these contributors.
Sadly, Paul Fromm in Canada writes, in closing, Trump remains captive to the Israeli lobby.
Again, a recurring theme here.
He has permitted Netanyahu to devastate and commit genocide in Gaza.
Netanyahu's assistants shamelessly storm into Lebanon, Syria, and the West Bank, sovereign nations, to kill perceived enemies.
National boundaries mean nothing to the Israelis, who recently broke the ceasefire in Gaza by killing more civilians.
Still, that having been said, Paul Fromm rates Donald Trump's presidency, the first year of the second term at least, eight out of 10.
And again, when lifers like Paul Fromm rate him that high, I think some of our younger and a little more recalcitrant and undisciplined friends out there doing streams should take a listen.
These are the serious people.
What I've got to say to that is this.
If Trump went after Jewish power and influence, he'd be killed.
He would be unable to.
I think Jim Dowson brought that up, actually.
Just a moment ago, he said, I think he's doing the best he can without being killed.
Right.
Now, that may or may not be true, and some people can disagree.
And if he satisfied all these purists out here that want to take him to task for not doing something about that, there would be nobody doing anything to slow down or stop illegal immigration or any type of third world immigration into America.
You know, there would be nobody to stop the drugs coming in.
We need all of these things done.
It's basically the difference between Robert E. Lee and Nathan Bedford Forrest.
Nathan Bedford Forrest wasn't allowed to command enough troops to win the Battle of Gettysburg or to win the Battle of Antietam or to win the Battle of Shiloh.
But he could win a lot of smaller skirmishes, smaller battles and things like that.
And that's what kept the South in the war in the West throughout the four-year period of the Civil War.
That's what we've got to do.
We've got to let Trump do what he can do as far as transforming the makeup of the legislature.
He can do what he can do, but all that a Hindu can do is, they say.
But on the other hand, for example, we had somebody, I forget in one of the, it may not have been Paul, but the one before talking about supposedly all these H-1B visas coming in and people from India, people from China.
And they said, and Trump had said white Americans can't do it.
Well, I've got news for Trump.
White Americans in my childhood before the racial integration of the public schools could do that very well.
I knew people that were excellent, people that were white people that came from the working class and the lower middle class.
When they were getting an excellent education in the public schools, then they could do it.
They were very good at doing that.
On the other hand, what has happened because of racial integration, everything has gone down to the lowest common denominator.
You can't learn anything if you're a white working class or lower middle class kid if you go to school in a place like Memphis except self-loathing.
That's what we need to do.
We need to basically break up this racial integration in the public schools and allow the schools to teach people according to their capabilities.
We have plenty of very capable people in the white population, but Trump doesn't apparently have the cojones right now to call out that the glaring reason why whites are underperforming.
It's easy for purists who do a podcast to condemn Trump for not being perfect.
But at the same time, we understand that there is a lot of pressure being put on him from all sides and from a lot of different enemies.
I got to get to Nick Griffin here.
Very quickly.
Nick Griffin, we'll work one more in before the break so we can keep pace here.
Nick Griffin, the former member of the European Parliament, writes from England that he grades Trump eight out of 10.
Let me tell you why that's so surprising.
Well, not necessarily surprising, but Nick is one of my closest friends in this whole thing.
All the people I've met and worked with over the years, Nick and I just really, well, hit it off.
And he has spoken at our last two conferences, TPC conferences, via video because he was denied entry into the country both times, although he did have plane tickets both times.
But he gives him eight out of 10.
Nick does not suffer fools lightly, and he does not give idle praise.
And this is a guy who's been there and done that in one high elected office and led a political party, the BNP.
He's done it all.
But he grades Trump 8 out of 10, and he writes this score specifically from a British European perspective.
But he writes that the big pluses on Trump this year have been the significant shift in policy pertaining to Ukraine and Russia, slamming the European Union, protecting American industry, intervening on behalf of the Boers, and bringing humor, both intentional and inadvertently, into international affairs.
Nick Griffin writes that the minuses on Trump have been the dithering over Epstein, pushing to steal Venezuela's oil, and signs of continued subservience to the Zionist lobby pull the rating down a bit, although he did slap down Netanyahu and block the attempt to exterminate or expel the whole of Gaza.
Nick Griffin, eight out of ten from England.
Well, let me say this about Venezuelans stealing their oil.
I don't give two hoots in hell if we steal all their oil or none of their oil.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
I got a job for you in the Bush administration of 2001.
Here's the situation: we've got to stop narco-terrorists from killing off the white working class and lower middle class in America because they have despaired of their lot under liberalism.
Now, it's a lot better than I'm not, I don't want to go to war with Venezuela.
On the other hand, it'd be a lot better to assassinate whoever is the cause, if it's Maduro or someone else, than to have a full-fledged war.
That's what should have been done.
For example, if somebody had assassinated either Churchill or if you take the other idea that it was Hitler, that would have been a lot better than losing 70% of the people.
Gotta take a look at people in World War II.
Quick break, we'll be back.
Nick Griffin, 8 out of 10.
Carries weight with me.
Stay tuned.
Hey, TPC family.
It's Danny, James's wife.
Just dropping in again to say hello and to thank you for all you do to keep the work of this program going.
Over the years, we have met so many of you at conferences and events.
Y'all have been such a blessing to me and my family, and most importantly, the cause.
TPC's Christmas fundraising drive is by far the most important one of the year.
As always, James has put together a wonderful selection of incentive gifts for donors.
But this year, he has finally allowed me to do something creative for you.
I'm very pleased to announce that all donors who contribute to the program this month will receive a homemade Christmas ornament for your tree.
I've been hard at work with a little help, of course, getting them done, and I hope you all like them.
From our home to yours, I want to wish each and every one of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Can a nation conceived in liberty carry its head high if it denies protection to the youngest and most vulnerable of its citizens?
Can a country founded on God-given rights continue to thrive without understanding that life is a precious gift from our Creator?
As a physician, I have looked into the eyes of one-pound babies.
I have cradled their small bodies in the palm of one hand.
I defy those who are careless, who would disregard life and look at these tiny little miracles and say, We're not going to protect that.
But I believe there will come a time when we are all judged on whether or not we took a stand in defense of all life from the moment of conception until our last natural breath.
One thing I promise you, I will always take a stand for life.
I've said it before.
I will say it again.
The best Christmas song ever made.
And I'll qualify that in the rock and roll era and not being a traditional hymn or anything, you know, Christ-centric.
But, you know, maybe White Christmas gets a little more recognition than that.
But that is one of the most iconic Christmas songs ever.
Darlene Love screaming the vocals over Phil Specter's wall of sound.
And he would have redundancy on these musicians.
He would put, you know, why have one drummer when you could have two?
You know, why have one lead guitarist when you could have three or four?
And he would make, it was a symphony.
And you can strip down these songs and remove the vocals.
They have it on YouTube now and just listen to the arrangement and it will bring you to your knees.
That is a masterpiece.
Leon Russell, I believe, was the name of the pianist, and he is pounding the piano in that last stanza.
I saw Leon Russell at Lafayette's music shop several years ago before his death.
Oh, I'd have loved to have met him.
I don't know what he did after that song, but he is immortal for playing the piano on that particular track.
Well, I'm going to be choosing the music in the next hour, and I'll give you my version of the, or my candidate for the best Christmas song that does not have a Christ-centric theme to it.
Next week, by the way, is our last week before Christmas.
So we will turn to the spiritual and the holy.
Pastor Brett McAtee will be on deck and others.
Christine Lynn will be back and others.
And we're going to be playing all the hymns.
We're going to be playing the traditional stuff that we all know and love.
Joy to the world, Hark the Herald Angels Away in a Manger, you name it.
I mean, it's going to happen next week.
But that song right there, that is, indeed, that is the name of the album, A Christmas Gift to You from Phil Spector.
That is a gift that keeps on giving every year.
Darlene Love, on that album, you've got Bobby Sox in the blue jeans, the Crystals, which was actually, you know, Darlene Love and a couple of other girls.
And of course, the Ronette.
So, you know, Phil Spector married Veronica Bennett, aka Ronnie Specter, and Be My Baby, Baby, I Love You.
They're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
He did a lot of crazy things.
He is a convicted murderer.
He died in prison.
You know, he was crazy, and he was a maniac, and he was Jewish, of course, but he was probably the best producer of the rock and roll era.
And I heard that even he played a little, he brought a 38 special and during a recording session with the Beatles and started playing Russian Roulette with John Lennon.
But a lot of rumors out there about that.
But nevertheless, that is an all-time song.
Listen to it.
Listen to the original, listen to it, pared down with just the instruments.
It was little symphonies for the kiddies, as he put it.
And that was an interesting trial, to be sure.
When he asked you to play Russian roulette with him, just say no.
Well, you know, his defense when he killed Lana Clarkson was she wanted to kiss the gun.
And he had a hung jury the first time, but they got him on round two.
Amazing what money can do.
Okay.
It's still great music, but nevertheless, you don't have to be a good person to make a good slide.
He definitely was on the other side of the aisle from us, ideologically.
But I'll tell you somebody who isn't is Ruben Caleb.
Now, this is a guy who has been on the show before, but only once, but he is one of the most interesting people I've ever met.
And a great deal of respect for Ruben Caleb.
He is a former member of the parliament in Estonia.
He's way younger than me.
When he was elected to parliament in Estonia, he was the youngest member of the governing body there.
And I asked him to respond for this feature in American Free Press about Trump's view on Trump's first year of the second term.
He gives Trump a five out of ten.
But in doing so, he provided, well, they've all been great.
They've all been good.
But I think Rubin gave one of the most thoughtful and analytically sound responses that we'll feature tonight.
Ruben Caleb, former member of parliament in Estonia, five out of ten.
This is how he qualifies it.
He writes, as a nationalist, I view Trump's emphasis on the foundations of a strong nation state very positively.
Border security, cultural cohesion, and resistance to the dominance of globalist elites.
His election gave voice to those who understand that great nations fail not because of external enemies, but because of internal cultural and political decay.
Trump challenged entrenched media power, questioned prevailing ideological dogmas, and reaffirmed the principle that the American people, not transnational structures or unaccountable bureaucracies, should decide the fate of their country.
Yet a contradiction runs through his presidency.
Nationalism and imperial habits do not go together easily.
Large centralized power structures tend to weaken rooted, trust-based national communities and favor bureaucratic expansion.
A consistent nationalist course would require greater respect for decentralization at home and genuine national self-determination abroad.
Ruben Caleb, former member of the parliament in Estonia, concludes by writing, on the world stage, Trump entered office with a genuine desire to reduce conflict and pursue peace while limiting direct American military involvement.
That instinct is understandable and in many ways healthy.
However, lasting peace cannot exist without justice and justice would require containing imperial aggression by great powers against their neighbors.
Trump's record here is mixed.
Positively, he challenged European complacency and pressed the European Union to take greater responsibility for its own defense, aligning with a sober understanding of national sovereignty.
His efforts in the Middle East also show potential, though it remains uncertain whether they can lead to a durable settlement that respects the national self-determination of both sides.
Negatively, occasional rhetoric about territorial expansion or the use of force for adventurist purposes risks undermining his own nationalist logic.
His first year has revealed strong instincts, but also strategic inconsistencies that limit their realization.
That is a wonderful, powerful response from Reuben Caleb, who not only is a former member of parliament, but also has fought in the Russian-Ukraine conflict.
Keith?
It reminds me of the beautiful loser argument, okay?
He may not, you know, you don't start wars to pursue nationalist ends.
That's fine.
But on the other hand, let's go to the Venezuela situation again.
If you're trying to protect your citizens from death, from narcotics, go after that and stop it.
I don't want to invade Venezuela.
I want to stop the people in Venezuela that are sending the drugs over, period.
And that goes anywhere.
You know, the thing is, we've got the whole idea that you don't go after the malefactors, you go after the nation, that is more this, you know, polite idea that you don't go after the individuals that are really responsible.
I'd rather lose three or four people than like in World War II, losing 75 million white people in war.
But see, we've got to let Trump stop the problems and solve the problems, okay?
I don't, you know, as far as causing problems for other nations, just go after the leadership that is causing the problems with us.
If you're just doing it to steal oil from a country, for example, that's illegitimate.
On the other hand, if you're doing it to stop drugs from killing your citizens, then that's legitimate.
That's something that the president needs to do, okay?
That's why I'm saying that, you know, we need to be effect-oriented.
We need to put points on the board.
If you can't get a touchdown, get a field goal.
If you can't get a field goal, get a safety.
Whatever it is, we need to start winning some wars.
I mean, winning some figurative wars.
We need to start advancing our agenda, and we need to stop worrying about whether we're, you know, doing this according to the Marquis de Queensbury rules.
Now, I do want to see Trump distancing himself from Jewish power and influence.
But that is not something that— Which has been a common and recurring theme this hour from the people who have responded to this.
But if you do that, history shows you you will probably be dead.
And then all of the good that you could have done on immigration, all of the good that you could do on the flow of drugs into America, all of those things would never get done.
We actually want to do what can be done first.
We actually have one of our 14 contributors who tackles that specific line of thinking head on.
We'll get to that in our third and final hour.
But he writes, how you can navigate that and still win.
And I think it's a good take.
I think all of these have been good takes.
They've been varied takes, some agreements, some disagreements, some common denominators, some common themes.
But all of these people, and we've still got some more to get to in the third hour, about to have, you know, as many as we've done so far, we've got that many more to go.
All interesting, all names, all fighters, all lifers, all people whose opinions should matter to you.
Very serious.
And I think when you put it all together, and we'll give you the aggregate, we'll give you the total, the sum total of all of these 14 takes where it landed on the rating scale.