Aug. 24, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, it feels like the good old days to be back.
Yours truly, James Edwards, Keith Alexander, Eddie the Bombardier Miller, together again and together for good.
And, you know, you've been doing your own show now for how many years now, Eddie, six, seven?
God, coming up on me thinks we started in 2018, seven years.
2018.
Man, can you believe it?
And then eight years for Charlottesville.
I mean, it doesn't seem like that long ago.
Seven years for Blood River.
Man, it seems impossible.
Eight years.
Well, I tell you, though, and then this is the point.
You've been doing that for seven years now.
And then here at TPC, I mean, we're doing things in contact with people working on things behind the scenes that would have been unimaginable, totally unimaginable when we first went on the air.
And so in that way, you know, as you continue to do things over years and years, it continues to professionalize and becomes more of something like that.
And, you know, so I'm proud of that.
But there is nothing that can replicate, and that's what you're working towards.
You're always working for advancement, but nothing can replicate that feel of the show in those early years.
Those early years when it was me and you and Keith and of course others that have come and gone, Bill Rowland, Winston Smith, you know, Jeff Melt.
I mean, there was just art, you know, the different producers, the different station managers.
It's all the people we've worked on.
But in those early years, I mean, you could just, we were always talking about serious things, but there was just, I mean, you could just tune in and in a minute, you could just hear that this is just like a family discussion and I'm in their living room and they're just talking.
And it just seemed, it was just a lot more laid back and relaxed when it was all still ahead of us.
I mean, the things have, you know, when you operate at a higher level and you're operating on a, it just, it becomes, it's just different.
It's just different.
And I'm loving tonight being back and having this old familiar feeling from years and years and years ago.
Keith?
I'd like to add this.
One thing that we have done and makes it different now than it was back when we started is we have moved the Overton window.
There are topics now that are talked about all the time by so-called mainstream commentators that were totally taboo, that could, you know, would basically get you fired from your job if they found out about it when we started.
But somebody had to start it.
And James, Eddie, Bill, Winston, everybody did it.
You know, Keith, we had to keep this, you know, basically someone had to break the taboo.
And that's what we did.
And it's bearing fruit right now.
But it took brave people like Eddie that went in there, went into the lion's den, and, you know, were able to defy the powers that be.
And look, make no mistake about it.
Eddie and the protesters down there and all the people that we knew, they were not the establishment.
The establishment was arrayed against them.
They were using all of their power, all of their might, all of their legal support to get these people shut down and more than that, to hurt them, to make sure that people got a lesson that you can't support these type of positions without paying a price.
Keith, that's a very good point.
I was just going to say, we're going to hurt you physically and we're going to ruin you financially.
And I think, Eddie, that was probably the goal of what they had planned for the truly, you know, this is gaslighting, Keith, the term you like to use and which I use now because you use it.
This is gaslighting.
Or something that Eric Orwell said, or no, was it Eric Orwell?
No, it was Steve Stockman that said it a couple of weeks ago.
These communists do the things to you that they pretend you're doing to them, and then they cry if it ever is returned in any sort of reciprocal way at all.
But the point is, is that they were going to ruin everyone financially.
They were going to potentially, you know, put them in prison, or if not hurt them.
I think the message that they had tried to send that day was, this will be the last time that whites ever gather in American streets to advance their own interests.
We're going to end it here once and for all.
I think that is what they were trying to do.
Eddie.
I'd like to make a quick comment about the people that are finally coming on board.
You know, now they're getting some courage.
I'd like to say, where the hell were you six, eight, 10, 12 years ago when we were doing this?
When we were taking a chance of getting fired, Keith Alexander taking a chance getting disbarred.
James taking a chance to go getting killed.
We were out there loud and clear.
Where are you now?
You big, brave boys.
I'm glad you're doing it.
But you know what?
I will have to say, I really can't respect a lot of that much right now coming on board because they knew it.
James and Keith, they knew what the hell was going on right then, but they didn't have the courage that we had to do it.
So by God, I'd just like to say one more time, where the hell were you then?
Why are you just not coming on board?
Because you feel safe now.
What about you?
Keith, to you, but I mean, and of course, starting this media broadcast 21 years ago, nobody was doing that then.
But this, and then now you've got, and I am thinking, I will say this.
I understand why you're saying that and why you feel that way.
And that is understandable.
But I, you know, and for people like the still fairly odious Charlie Kirk, all these people that are saying the same things now, I welcome the extra, it isn't hurting, but it is helping.
But I understand why you look at them a little bit.
I just want to say, don't give them the silver star with Oakley Plus for quite yet.
Give them the metal better late than never.
Well, the thing that I like, though, is that we need to, somebody had to do it.
And I guess we were selected.
The people in this room, the people that you are going to be on this show, people that decided that they, you know, to use that hackneyed phrase attributed to Fannie Lou Hamer, we were sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Okay.
And we had to get out there and talk about it.
And, you know, what has happened is there's been, you know, American politics has totally changed.
I don't think that Donald Trump could have gotten elected if it were not for the efforts of people like us who basically opened or moved the Overton window to the right so that his topics could be discussed.
And boy, has the left fought tooth and nail to shut him up.
And the more they do it, the more he talks and the more support he gets.
Who are we talking about?
I was texting somebody that was about to come on the show.
I'm talking about Trump.
Oh, Trump.
Okay, yeah, I heard the rest you said.
I didn't know the example you were citing.
Well, there's so much more we want to cover tonight.
We're going to hear from Rich Hamblin, who Eddie traveled with there, and he's a longtime friend of both of our programs, just a longtime friend, period.
Patrick Martin, who is a regular as well, and he wrote the book, A Walk in the Park, My Charlottesville Story, and Gene Andrews in The Third Hour.
Again, I thought about bringing in the heavy hitters from Charlottesville, but with Eddie being back in the studio tonight, I just really wanted to focus the attention in-house and on our team here.
You had Jason Kessler on last week on your program.
I was thinking about Jason.
I really like Jason.
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Did you ever actually see the monument that day?
Did you get so far as to actually see the monument?
Because some people made it all the way to the park.
Some people, by the time that the emergency declaration was put out there, declared, yes, it had not quite there.
Did you ever see the monument that day?
I saw the monument, but you know, to be perfectly honest, I could barely remember it.
I didn't get to look at it much because there was so much hell breaking loose.
There was so much hell going on.
You couldn't just sit there and say, oh, what a beautiful monument.
I did get a glimpse of it, but that was it.
And, you know, I spent time.
I'll make this quick too.
A surreal experience that I had was I would go from the park.
This is absolutely incredible.
I would go from the park with all of our guys and I would go past this shield wall out into the Antifa in the BLM.
And I would interview these people, talk to these people.
If you remember, I know you remember, James.
I was sending pictures back to you from up there on this crappy phone I had.
I don't know if you were able to post them.
But I would talk to these people.
I would go back into the park, go back out with the wild people.
And I interviewed a guy who was a college professor at Charlesville.
You're interviewing them sort of just to inform your commentary on the broadcast later that night.
This was not the interview that you did live on the program that night, which we'll get to in a moment about that.
So you are talking to some people, you know, with your press grenadiers while all of this is happening.
And then, you know, I love the fact that, again, gaslighting the media says, well, look, these people obviously were preparing for violence.
That's why they have these shields.
Well, no, I think when people are hurling bricks and frozen, you know, bottled ice at you, I'd rather have a shield than not, frankly.
That's just me.
Let me just say this.
We were talking about gaslighting, and I think a lot of people use it.
They don't know exactly what it is.
It's based on a 1946 Academy Award-winning movie called Gaslight, starring Ingrid Bergman and Charles Boyer.
And basically, what they do is it's making someone feel guilt and shame about something they should not feel guilt and shame about, which is the classic definition of what happened to Southern white people during the Civil War.
All right, the music is playing.
We're going to be talking with a man that Eddie traveled with to Charlottesville, a man who saw violence up close and personal.
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We've been mentioning this man's name a handful of times already tonight, but it's Rich Hamblin.
And not only did Rich travel to Charlottesville with Eddie in the same car and home, they both made it.
Rich was certainly not just there, but there for a pretty well-known chapter in Charlotte's, in the Battle of Charlottesville history, involving DeAndre Harris and a brawl that broke out right again in front of so-called law enforcement officers in front of a parking garage.
Rich has been featured in at least a couple of documentaries that the enemy has put out on Charlottesville.
Rich, welcome to the show tonight.
We've got about 10 minutes.
The floor is entirely yours.
We're talking about Charlottesville.
What story do you want to tell?
Well, thank you, James, for inviting me on.
Charlottesville.
You know, my main impressions of Charlottesville was disorganization, chaos, no real clear plan.
And it was a setup for us.
I mean, we were clearly set up by law enforcement and the local city and all this kind of stuff.
So I don't think anything went according to plan that day.
You were there.
Maybe getting there to the site.
That was about it.
You are a pretty grizzled veteran in terms of activism on behalf of our people.
So you've seen a lot.
You are not one that is very Pollyannish at all.
But still, you went there.
But even if you had foreseen what you saw, and I mean, we've talked about it generally, the police not doing anything, but you saw it in a very real way.
I mean, you saw a man get cracked on the skull with a pipe within a couple of feet of law enforcement who never moved.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, of course, I was getting knocked on my rear end at the same time.
Yeah, you got it too.
I mean, you were knocked down.
You can see it in some of the movies that they've made on Charlottesville.
You can see you getting knocked down on the street.
And then the man who was, I think, if I'm not mistaken, the man who was responsible for the attacks was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I mean, tell us that story.
Yeah, well, DeAndre was a part of the gang of thugs, I guess, that came in from New York City.
You know, an aspiring teacher or whatever that the mainstream media lie was.
But he was part of the group that was taunting us all the way down from Lee Park back to the parking garage.
I mean, we were just trying to get out of there.
And you can see it in the video.
He was calling me names and everybody else's names.
And his cohorts were, you know, acting out because they knew they had, you know, they knew they had cover pretty much.
There wasn't anybody sticking up for us.
And we barely stood up for ourselves.
You know, Rich, I'll tell you, first of all, before I start talking to you, I was going to tell the listening audience, TPC, how much of an honor it was to ride up there with men like you, men like Gene Andrews, and you know, like Matt and Simon.
And that's a minute has been burning my mind forever.
I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget you, Rich.
You'll always be a brother.
Nothing could possibly come between us, us guys that rode up there and back together and survived that hellhole together.
We were bonded together as a brotherhood forever and ever and ever, as far as I'm concerned.
I know you feel the same way.
But I would just like to apologize to you.
I wish I'd have been there when you got attacked like that.
I got kind of split off from the group because I saw a guy named R.G. Miller and asked him, hey, which way out of here?
Which way?
Because I was over there by him.
And he said, we're going to McIntyre Park.
We're going to have a speech down there.
And so I went down to McIntyre Park.
But by the time we got there, we got run out of there by the Highway Patrol, the National Guard, the whole nine yards.
But I wish I'd have been there with you and with Gene.
Maybe you would not have been hit that hard.
I don't know.
Maybe they got me, maybe be in jail.
But I'd just like to say it's a great honor to know you and be a brother and a friend of yours, Rich Haplin.
Well, I appreciate you saying that, Eddie.
It wasn't like I was beaten up.
I mean, I just got knocked to the ground by a girl, of all things, and she proceeded to pound on my head.
I thought she was kicking me.
Hey, some of those antifa girls aren't like the girls we all know.
No, but now, but you were right there with Harold Cruz when he got cracked in the school.
I mean, that could have absolutely killed him.
I mean, you were right there when all of this is happening.
Law enforcement doing that was an attempted murder, yeah.
And we somebody, or maybe one of the camera freelance camera people were asking the cops, why aren't you doing anything?
And why aren't you arresting somebody?
One of the sheriff's deputies said, We don't do arrests today, or some words to that effect.
I mean, it was pretty ridiculous as far as that goes.
I mean, if there were anything.
And I know that Warren Baylog, I'm sorry, Rich.
I know that people, you know, you would think, but my God, there has to be a lawsuit there for all of these cops just allowing this violence.
But of course, you know, people like Baylog and Kessler and others have tried in this.
I mean, we know that that's not going to go anywhere in that jurisdiction, especially.
But I mean, if ever, could you imagine?
I mean, look at what they did to the people who were actually trying to uphold law and order in the South in the 60s.
It's just a total negative image, the absolute inverse.
But anyway, Rich, your Charlottesville story.
We still got about five minutes with you.
Anything else you want to say about the day, your experiences there, the legacy of the event?
Just anything at all?
Well, the legacy.
You know, in the immediate aftermath, I kind of expressed the opinion that we need to go back and take that town.
But looking at how deep it is and all the stuff that's happened since then, you know, it's a pretty monumental task, no pun intended.
But it just highlighted for anybody with eyes of see and ears to hear just how rough this situation truly is.
And I don't, I don't, I don't really see it getting a whole lot better.
People just aren't, you know, activism is gone, has ground to a halt.
Everybody's just scattered.
I mean, one thing Charlottesville did was, you know, it sure did not unite the right.
I mean, everybody just kind of scattered to the four winds and headed for the hills.
So I think a lot of people got a big reality check that day and realized that there were a lot of LARPers there and realized that we're not in high school anymore.
This is the real deal.
And I'm lucky I didn't get hurt anymore than I did.
Harold Cruz is lucky he didn't get killed.
You know, any number of people have suffered grievous injuries.
There was a guy from Florida who had his head cut open pretty badly.
But there again, you know, because of the nature of the establishment down there, everybody seemed to be afraid.
Nobody really had the courage to stand up and prosecute.
I mean, Harold, you know, I don't know what's going on with Harold, but he just kind of went to pieces and went to ground.
And he's got certainly a clear-cut case of attempted homicide against him.
Anytime you hit somebody above the head with an object like that, you're trying to murder them.
There's just no two ways to say that.
But they finally did get the guy that did it.
I don't know if he's going to face charges on this, but he is up on for attempted murder on a guy who he knived outside a bar.
I forgot where it was, St. Louis or someplace like that.
His name is Ryan Johnson or something like that.
But that was just recently revealed.
And so maybe, yeah, maybe there's going to be some justice served there, but I really doubt it.
We're not quite as bad as England, but it's going to take a lot to turn this ship around.
Well, Rich, God willing, and I've already told the guys here, if I live, and that's a long shot with a limit on the way, for our 10th anniversary of Charlottesville, we intend, come hell or high water, to go to Charlottesville and broadcast live up there.
We'll see how that goes.
But that's if we both live.
Yeah, we'll see.
Neither one of us will exactly.
Well, not as an event.
I mean, you can go up there and just say you're there.
It's radio.
We're in Charlottesville right now.
Nobody even knew it.
Yeah, the statue's gone.
The plinth is gone.
I mean, I think they got a homeless encampment up there.
Last time I checked when I was up there testifying at the trial.
That's a civil suit.
But it's, yeah, I mean, it's Charlottesville is definitely a hostile territory, as is any place that's got any large city that's got a necessarily a large city, but any city that's got a college on it.
It's just infested with Marxist Bolshevism.
Yeah, maybe not reason to go back, but we'll just pretend we're there.
Well, Rich, I really appreciate it.
I get it.
I get it.
But I mean, well, two years from now, we'll see what's happening.
But, Rich, I really appreciate your testimony tonight and reliving that.
I mean, what you said just a few minutes ago was very profound and stirring.
And It's, you know, on we go.
No, and it is interesting because, as you said, I don't know how much of a role Charlottesville ultimately played in this.
We may never know, but there has been certainly a shift on our side.
Whereas a lot of those organizations that, as you said, maybe, or those individuals, and I'm not thinking of anybody in particular, but there's a lot of people that were there that are no longer around, LARPers, as you put it.
A lot of individuals and organizations that were there don't exist anymore, but things have shifted in our direction in so much as, at the very least, people are talking about our issues much more openly and freely than they could in 2017.
So I don't know.
I mean, you know, Charlottesville is baked into that cake too, and where it lands and the role it played in what we have now that we didn't have then.
Well, that's a topic for another thing, but I do believe that it is related.
Rich Hamblin, best to you and to Janice, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Patrick Martin's on deck next.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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I mean, a former government contractor.
He's an expert on the Middle East, on Russia, Ukraine.
He has had a very interesting life and continues to enjoy a very interesting and productive and successful life.
But he is also, of course, the man who put together that book, The Honorable Cause, the Free South that we collaborated on, that collaborative effort a couple of years ago.
But he wrote a book, one of his books himself, A Walk in the Park, My Charlottesville Story.
And that is what brings Patrick back on to us back onto PPC this evening.
I'll read very quickly the synopsis.
It is available for sale at Amazon.com, and we'd encourage anybody interested in Charlottesville to check it out, published in 2022.
A Walk in the Park, My Charlottesville Story by Patrick Martin.
This is his personal story regarding the events of August the 12th, 2017 at the Unite the Right rally.
It describes his progression from a middle-aged middle-class father with a well-paying job to a member of the dissident right and how it led him to become a participant on that fateful day.
This book neither engages in racial nor religious animus.
It is simply his story before, during, and after the protest at Charlottesville.
Padrick, thank you for coming on tonight.
I know we only have you for a few minutes.
Break down that book and break down that story.
Yeah, well, hey, first of all, thank you very much for the invitation.
Obviously, Charlottesville was a central event in American history, and a lot of folks remember January 6th, but I don't think they realized that Charlottesville, in my opinion, was a test run, really, for what happened with J6 and Jay Sixers after the fact.
I think this really was sort of their advertiser, so to speak, in terms of capturing dissidents and so forth.
So, yeah, I mean, the book itself and my experiences in general, my whole purpose in life at that point was really just to protest the sudden rush to remove monuments.
I mean, I really didn't have any other political or social or cultural agenda other than that.
You know, we had in the post-Dylan Roof period, you know, that short period of time after 2015, within about a week or so, all of a sudden you saw Confederate monuments being torn down.
You saw the flag come off the South Carolina Capitol.
There was this rush to equate anything involving the Confederacy to something that was evil.
And all of a sudden, what had previously been, I would say, you know, informed and sometimes spirited discussion and debate on whether or not the Confederacy was right or wrong or what have you, or secession was right or wrong, or moral issues around it.
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And you see this race out for this removal of monuments that were just happening in just an insane way.
It was very clearly well coordinated.
It was coordinated across both political aisles, by the way.
There was no Republicans that were putting their neck out on behalf of the South, despite the fact that the South itself is largely a bastion of Republican voters.
I mean, that's really the strength of the GOP is within that zone, within the South, the former Confederacy.
So, I mean, here it was.
You had the incidents that happened in New Orleans.
You had the incidents that happened up in Shelbyville, and you had these other incidents that were occurring.
And finally, Charlottesville comes along, and there was this opportunity to protest the removal of a statue that wasn't very far from where I had gone to school.
I went to William and Mary, which is now in Williamsburg, not far from Charlottesville.
Charlottesville itself is a very pretty town, very pretty area of Virginia.
I've got a long lineage family in Virginia going back to the 1600s, the American side of my family.
And so I was very, I wanted to see support and keep it and really keep that statue for Robert E. Lee and also Jackson standing.
And of course, everything became bedlam and became this major historic event with all these various labels assigned to anybody who was involved in the overall protest.
For that removal, of course, I was very much involved at the time, League of the South, and I happened to be standing right next to one of the security members, Ike Baker, who was in charge of security for the entirety of League of the South, as he met with police officials who told us to march where we were supposed to march, told us where to assemble, and promised that we would not be molested or interrupted or impeded in any way.
And so when we went on the march, you know, again, going in towards the park, into Lee Park, and to, again, listen to some speeches, and then we would have gone on our merry way.
Instead, we were prepared.
We were certainly prepared for the possibility of violence because we'd seen how much the left had violently assaulted every single event earlier in that year.
I believe they attacked Milo Yiannopoulos, who, in my opinion, is not a conservative.
They attacked, I think it was Laura Loomer or something like that.
So you had these various folks that they were attacking throughout the year and violently attacked, viciously assaulting, blowing up college camps, burning buildings, breaking windows.
And so we expected there to be some kind of pushback.
We also expected the police to do their job, and they didn't.
And so we come out of the garage at that time, and as we get ready to march in towards Lee Park, and we come across this little hill, you can see that we're about to march right into a gauntlet.
And there was no police presence that was, well, there was.
They're all on the sidelines watching it happen.
So, I mean, it was an absolutely, I think it was a trap.
In fact, there's nothing that can convince me otherwise.
And the violence that occurred that day was very clearly already designed.
It was already prepared.
The left was really prepared for us.
They had the various Antifa that were out there.
And then, of course, you had the police who stood back and watched until it was convenient for them to begin assaulting anybody and everybody who might be from the political right and pushing them into the crowds and making the matters that much worse than they had.
So it was one of those events I'll never forget for sure.
And then from my perspective, it was really the sort of the dress rehearsal for J6.
This is what, I mean, ladies and gentlemen, I hope, first of all, you recognize the talent and the articulation in this man's ability to deliver a clear and concise message.
But what I want to tell you about Padrick, and one of the reasons he's one of my favorite guests to have on, is I texted Padrick about two hours ago, about two hours before we started the show tonight, and asked him if he could come on on exceedingly short notice.
And he had that message ready to go just off the top of his head.
And it's just an amazing thing.
And I think you are so right to equate this to J6.
You know, I guess I hadn't, I mean, if I'd have thought about it for three seconds, I could have made that connection.
But I think that is very important to have spoken on the record tonight.
And by the way, Rich Hamblin, who was on the segment before you, says hello.
And Eddie the Bombardier Miller, who was there with you.
Now, I don't know if you met Eddie that day, but if you were in the proximity of Ike Baker, you were in the proximity of Eddie the Bombardier Miller, who has been a longtime co-host on TPC, going back to his very inception.
And he was there that day.
What did you think?
We only got about a minute or two left with Padrick.
Eddie, your thoughts and reaction to everything you just heard Padrick so eloquently describe.
Well, I only wish I could speak half that well.
I really do.
But Patrick probably saw me.
I'm sure I've seen him.
I saw a lot of people there.
But at one time, my right shoulder was, I would say, hitting the right shoulder of Michael Tubbs.
Michael Tubbs is a foot taller than I am up a shield wall.
And Patrick, I would go out into the melee with the Antifa and the BLM, and I would interview those people just to get fodder for the later broadcasts that night that I did for TPC from up there in Charlottesville.
But I wish I could have seen you then, but I would like to second what James said.
You gave a crystal clear picture and very eloquent about that.
And I, too, I didn't think about, I'd never equated Charlottesville with J6.
I didn't, but I think that's a great opportunity of yours.
The book is A Walk in the Park, my Charlottesville Story by our friend and yours, Padrick Martin.
It's available on Amazon.
Be sure to check it out.
It's one of three books that I know have been written from our side.
And Wilson Smith wrote the first one.
And then, of course, Padrick, the one we've been talking about, Jason Kessler, came out with the book last year.
And we'll plug all of those later.
But be sure to check this out.
Padrick, final word to you as the music is about to begin to play.
And thank you again for coming on tonight to talk about this.
Well, again, gentlemen, first of all, thank you very much.
And I do apologize.
I've got folks working around me.
But I just wanted to say thank you very much for the invitation.
And just to point out real quick, we did nothing wrong at Charlottesville.
nothing we did wrong.
People have a right to stand up for who they are.
They have a right to stand up for their culture.
They have a right to stand up for their heroes and their monuments and to preserve those monuments so that their progeny, that their future generations can look up to men who are even bigger and greater than themselves and be inspired by that.
And that is what we did.
And there was nothing wrong about that whatsoever.
And I just want to thank you again for having invited me.
Amen.
Amen and amen.
That may have been the most important 30 seconds that have been spoken on the air tonight and in a long time.
That is why.
Thank you, Patrick, for reminding people why these monuments are important.
Not just because we like the people that they are memorializing or not just because they are beautiful works of art.
They are that.
And it is all of that.
But it reminds us of who we need to be striving to be more like.
Eddie, I wish I had time to.
I wish Patrick had time to, I would ask him a rhetorical question of, Patrick, why did they hate us so badly or why were there so much admit toward us people that were going there?
We were doing nothing wrong.
Patrick, you got about 10 seconds.
I believe it has a lot to do with the white race.
The South is the last fashion, the last holdout for the Christian white nation in the United States.
And that's what they're most afraid of.
They are most afraid of the Jesus Christian-loving people who are white.
Well, Eddie is just giving us the A-O-K sign, which I know is a hate symbol now, but I 100% agree.
Thank you, Patrick.
We'll be back here, Jonathan.
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And I want to thank Patrick Martin again and Rich Hamblin for such phenomenal contributions to this particular show tonight.
And how about Patrick's answer, Pappy, to your question as why the people that were there to defend the legacy of Robert E. Lee and men like him were so hated?
I think he nailed it.
And I would simply add, I think he did say, well, because we were quite a Christian, which is pretty much synonymous.
But, you know, people, we fight against not flesh and blood.
We fight against the spirit that's spirit of evil.
We fight against Satan.
And that's why Satan hates the South.
Like this fellow, Patrick, said, we are a large repository of white Christians.
You know, the South used to be known, and I know you two guys, Keith and James, y'all know, the South used to be known as the Bible Belts.
Not so anymore, I don't think.
But that's why they hate us so bad.
And I would just like to add this too, this has nothing to do with Charlottesville.
And I said this.
I think that's why there's so much hatred toward Putin in the Russians, because the Russians have the largest, probably, repository of white people out there in the world.
And they've been going over not a renaissance, but a revival in Russia.
So that hatred is a twinship.
We share a kinship with Russia.
The same force hates us.
But I know Patrick, I know what he says.
Pretty much I agree with the same thing.
They hate us because we're white, they were Christian.
And it's a demonic hatred.
I'm going to read his bio, and then I'm going to toss it to Keith.
I'm going to let you and Keith take the remainder of this segment, give Keith a little more time on this topic.
But this is Patrick Martin's official bio on Amazon.
This is the bio that he put in there for his author sales page, where you can get his book, A Walk in the Park, My Charlottesville Story.
Also, the book that we did on the South, the Honorable Cause of Free South.
This is the author's bio.
You'll like this, Eddie.
Patrick Martin is a devout Christian, a felon, and an advocate for Southern secession.
He holds dual American and Irish citizenship.
He is the son of an Irish mother and an American father.
His American grandmother has deep roots in Virginia.
His Irish grandmother played a significant role in his upbringing in Ocala, Florida, which I just mentioned was the only place other than Memphis that had a bigger Confederate rally than what we put on in 2015.
Mr. Martin holds two master's degrees, one in Islamic studies and the other an MBA.
He has worked in 78 countries, spending most of his time in the former Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and throughout Sub-Saharan Africa.
Patrick is a tireless proponent of Florida secession, where he currently resides with his wife and children.
He is a frequent guest speaker on multiple podcasts regarding southern nationalism, nationalist movements globally, and matters related to U.S.-Iranian and U.S.-Russian relations.
Very smart guy.
We have a lot of very smart people in our circle of friends and our TPC and Liberty News and Blood River family.
All right, Keith, I'm going to toss it back to you.
I mean, he brought up some good things about, you know, I liked how he related this to J6 as this was like a warm-up test run for what they did in J6.
Of course, the difference is the J6 people were pardoned and they had some help.
No such similar support has happened from the people in Charlottesville who were no less innocent than the people at J6.
Nobody's on.
Somebody's on.
Okay, let me just say this.
I think that there is purposeful misdirection going on because we're not asked to see the people in Charlottesville as being akin to the people that were persecuted at the January 6th protest.
January the 6th was more of a national and an anti-Trump movement.
What happened at Charlottesville was basically southern whites standing up for their heritage.
There were a lot of people that were not there for that reason.
But basically, Patrick is right.
White people were making a last stand at Charlottesville.
And they wanted to make sure that we were, you know, squushed like a bug.
And what really happened regarding January the 6th was that it was a tempest in a teapot.
Likewise, at Charlottesville, we, the people that were protesting the taking down of the Robert E. Lee statute, were the good guys.
They were the ones that were, you know, supporting traditional values in America.
And likewise, the people that went to the Capitol in January the 6th, it was like Mon Pa Kettle visiting the Capitol, that you had these elderly people wandering through taking selfies and pictures like this.
And they're supposedly insurrectionists trying to overthrow the American government.
Likewise, people standing for, you know, reverencing the statues of Confederate heroes, which, you know, was commonplace throughout all the South during my childhood and yours, Eddie, and everybody else is a Southern white person.
This apparently has become taboo.
But the good thing about the aftermath of Charlottesville and January the 6th is that our enemies' viewpoint has not prevailed.
In fact, they are in headlong retreat.
And our viewpoint is prevailing and gaining more proponents all the time.
And I think we need to keep that in mind, that basically the people that suffered in January the 6th and at Charlottesville did not suffer in vain.
They basically turned the tide.
They have moved the Overton window and we are now on the offensive and our enemies who had been so completely in charge for most of my lifetime, they're the ones who are turning tail and having to defend themselves and running, basically.
Look at the Democratic Party right now, for example.
They can't get a legitimate candidate, not only for president, lined up out of their ranks, they can't even find a legitimate person to run for a mayor of a major city.
These people are totally out of step with, I'd say, 80% of the population at the very least.
And all of this has come about because of the efforts of, you know, the type of people that were protesting at Charlottesville and January the 6th and this show.
This show, when we got started on this show, James, there was nothing else like it.
We just, you know, we kind of lucked into getting a radio station to hold us.
And then we lucked into running into Sam Bushman and got this thing syndicated.
And as a result, we have, you know, there's been a whole new approach to American politics now.
The Antifa people are the people that are at the margin.
They're the bad people.
And we're the good people.
And we won the election.
We won two elections.
Thank goodness Trump didn't win in 2020 because if he had, he wouldn't be the same person that he is now.
You can say what you want to about Trump, but he is making progress.
And power, political power is what it's all about.
I remember so many Republicans in the past have said, well, you can't do this and you can't do that and whatnot.
Well, Trump is going to get done.
He's basically running the District of Columbia now.
You know, and you've got a black mayor and a black population there.
Well, he's going after the criminality there.
It is shameful for the United States to be, you know, have that as our capital and have it, you know, it's the most crime-ridden capital of any capital in the world, I understand.
And, yeah, well, no.
No, they've compared it with Mogadishu and Addis Abadaba and Africa and whatnot.
And guess what?
Washington is number one.
But see, this is what's happening.
We're calling a spade a dirty shovel, as my late wife's grandfather used to say.
And things are being talked about that were beyond the pale back, you know, in the old days.
And the real thawing out started in the teens of the 21st century.
And Charlottesville was basically like the Lexington and Concord of that movement.
And J6 was Bunker Hill.
Think about that for a moment.
I got a question for Keith.
Keith, I was going to ask you one quick question about that.
You know, you say our people, the tide's been turned.
If there was one stronghold, what is the strongest of the strongholds left that the Bush and Communists have left in America?
Would you say this to universities, the colleges?
How can we expose shadows cleansing the daylight on Dip, Keith?
Well, there's so many things, but you're right.
There's nothing, no institute, you know, you've had the lawmarks through the institutions of the cultural Marxists.
And the reason we study cultural Marxism is because it sets a template for everything that you and I have lived through in our life, the civil rights movement, the homosexual rights movement, the feminist movement, the climate change movement.
Just everything that every left-wing, radical, left-wing movement has been based on the methodology set by cultural Marxism and the lawmarks through the institutions.
And you're right.
Our higher education in particular is bad.
But then on the other hand, look what Trump is doing to them.
He's taking away their money and they're squealing like a stoked pig.
The music is playing.
When we come back, we're going to refocus and get back to what we've been doing all night.
Q ⁇ A direct responses from Eddie about that day.
Again, thank you to Rich Hamlin and to Padrick for sort of adding a little texture and a couple of different points of views and perspectives from that day.
You'll still hear from Gene Andrews in the third hour, so stay tuned for that.
But more from Eddie, particularly about that live broadcast of TPC from Charlottesville that night.
Keith and I were in the studio in Memphis.
Eddie was there on the ground, how he selected the people that he would be putting on the radio.