April 5, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, I wish I was in the land of Cotidoo.
And there I'm not forgot to look away, look away, look away in Dixie's land.
In Dixie's land where I was born in early on the frosty morning.
Look away, look away, look away in Dixie's land.
And I wish I was in Dixie.
Hooray!
Oh, without southern Dixie, hooray, away, oh, without southern Dixie, hooray.
And with that, ladies and gentlemen, I've got chills because we are back now.
It literally and without exaggeration gives me chills to hear that song with a military and upbeat cadence as you just heard it.
That is our national anthem here in the South, and it is Confederate History Month once again here on TPC.
Love March Around the World, but this is something different here with Confederate History Month.
And we have been doing it since the very first year we were on the air, all the way back.
Well, technically, we went on the air in October of 2004, so we missed that one.
But April of 05 is when this started, and we've done it every year since.
And we have had some star-studded lineups over the course of the last two decades.
A lot of great Southern men and women on the show during the month of April, going back to people like Michael Andrew Grissom, the celebrated author.
Even former South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Glenn McConnell has made stops on our Confederate History Month programming over the years.
And this year will be no different.
And we celebrate Confederate History Month because we are proud of our Southern heritage, our Southern patrimony, and we hold in the highest regard our ancestors who fought to preserve the American way of life from 1861 to 1865.
And with that said, we are glad you are here and will be with us for the next four weeks to join us during our on-air celebration of the South.
These were good men, brave men who are worthy of our remembrance.
They were men better than any you or I will ever know.
And along with their memory live in the hearts and minds of all decent people.
And that having been said, we welcome back one of the greatest men I know.
And the man that I wanted to be sure to kick off our Confederate History Month series this year.
He has never missed one, Dr. Michael Hill.
How are you tonight, brother?
I'm doing fine, brother.
I appreciate you having me on the show again, particularly for this first Saturday in April.
Obviously, we are abiding by God's fifth commandment to us when we honor our ancestors like this.
It's not just restricted to our parents, but all of our ancestors.
And it's a command.
It's not something that's optional.
It's a command for all Christians to do this.
And I am greatly honored to be on your show every year, every April, to celebrate this wonderful month.
You are on with us regularly throughout the year, every year, but always, always in April.
And as soon as we can get to you, that's for sure, as soon as your schedule lines up.
And so tonight it lined up our very first Saturday in April.
I'll tell you, two years ago this week, Michael, we, and I've seen you several times in person since then and many, many times before that, not just on the air, but in person.
But two years ago this week, if you may remember, we were together in South Carolina for a book signing of the Honorable Calls.
And I just want to just mention that because that book is still available at Amazon.
It made a big splash when it was released two years ago this week.
And I enjoyed sharing that time of fellowship with you as that book was released.
Yeah, that book was a fun project to be part of.
And I'd encourage all the people out there who haven't bought a copy and read it to do so and buy an extra copy and give it to a friend or a family member.
It's well worth reading.
Well, Michael, with that being said, every year that goes by, every year we do this, we are one year further removed from that time during which our ancestors fought in that war for our Second War for Independence.
I ask you this question every year, and I especially ask you this question: why is it that beyond the commandment to honor our fathers and our mothers, we could do that in a less public way?
Why is it so important for men like you and someone like me to do this?
Well, it's first of all, I think, a very serious duty that we have, not just to honor the Fifth Commandment, as we were just talking about,
but it's a matter of doing this for the current younger generations of Southerners who have probably been dissuaded by the popular culture and by the educational system from even knowing their ancestors, the true history of their ancestors, much less honoring it.
So I think we as, and I certainly don't put you in the category of an older guy like me.
I mean, I'm 73 years old and getting older by the day, and you're still a young man, but you've been around for a while doing this, is what I'm saying.
I think it's incumbent upon us who have God has given the ability and the knowledge to know the truth.
It's our obligation to spread it among the younger generation so they won't forget who they are and where they come from.
You know, I'm always taken back when I think about discussing our Confederate ancestors to a dear old friend of mine who's been gone, unfortunately, much too long, Mel Bradford, who's a great Southern man, a great writer, great thinker.
Mel wrote a book back in the, I think it was published in the 80s, called Remembering Who We Are.
And you couldn't have a better title for a book about Southerners because we always have been encouraged through the decades to remember our ancestors.
And we had monuments all over the South that were built when we were able to afford to put them up back about 100 years ago or so to remind us of who we were.
But obviously, a lot of those have been taken down and destroyed.
So we are the living monuments, I guess you might say, in a sense, to those who are younger than us.
And we have to remind them of who they are.
And we have to teach them why they ought to honor and revere these men who risk everything.
And as you said, the Second American Revolution is what it was.
And we should honor men like Lee and Jackson and Davis and Forrest as much as we honor men like Washington and Henry and Jefferson and Madison and people like that.
So, I mean, I heard it said many years ago that if the founding fathers would have been able to come back in 1860, 61, they would have undoubtedly, without reservation, sided with the Confederacy.
And I think that's absolutely true.
So we have an obligation as Southern men here to speak the truth to the younger generations.
And I think that's one of the things that we ought to always bear in mind, particularly in this month of the year.
You know, Michael, I appreciate that answer so much.
And this has always been a very popular month on this program, not just for Southerners, as you might imagine, but for people across the country and indeed around the world.
As a matter of fact, every year, I'll get an email or two from people that say they tune in only in April.
So I don't know what that says about the job we're doing the rest of the other months, but I do get that from time to time.
And I appreciate them for tuning in at least during this month.
What is it about the legacy of the Confederacy and those heroes who risked all?
They risked all fighting a cause that they were not likely to win.
Could have pulled through a couple of times, but it was possible, but it was always the odds were all stacked against them.
What is it about that example that stirs the Faustian spirit of Western man, the very beating in our hearts, from people who were never Southerners?
Well, James, that is a very, very appropriate question.
You know, I think you have to look at this, the Confederacy, in the broader, much broader sense of Western history.
Going back all the way to the siege of Troy, which most people think was a myth.
It was not a myth.
It was a true historical event.
Those heroes that began, I think that's the first really identifiable Western heroes that we have.
And you can start there and you can go throughout the history of white Westerners, and you can find so many great examples of heroism.
I mean, look at Thermopylae, for example.
Why don't we remember that?
Because you had 300 brave men who were willing to sacrifice their lives so that their compatriots back in Sparta could ready themselves for a war with the Persians, which they eventually were able to win because of that effort at Thermopylae.
And everybody, well, not everybody, but most people love an underdog.
And the South was certainly an underdog.
But it was the greatest army that North America has ever produced, the Confederate Army.
And there's no doubt about that, man for man and leader for leader.
It was the best that's ever been produced.
That is not up for debate, ladies and gentlemen.
And we will be back with Dr. Michael Hill right after this.
Stay tuned.
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I might have had a sidekick with a funny name running wild through the hills, chasing Jesse James.
Ending up on the frame of danger.
Right and shotgun for the Texas Ranger.
No less, gentlemen.
Haven't you been told California's full of whiskey?
Women and ghosts sleeping out all night beneath the desert stars.
With a dream in my eye and a prayer in my heart, I should have been a cowboy.
I should have learned to roll and ride.
We're in my six shoot, riding my pony on Gatton Grim.
Seen in a young girl's hearts.
Just like Gene and Roy, singing those campfire songs.
Oh, I should have been a cowboy.
You know, the whole history of Western civilization is just littered with man's men, you know, what I'm talking about, even through beyond the Confederate era, all the way through really and just till very recently.
I do like that song.
It mentions Jesse James, who my name's James.
My brother, I have a younger sibling, just one.
My younger brother's name's Jesse.
My great-grandfather was named after Frank James.
And what do you think?
I got a question for you.
It's going to lead to something a little bit trivial to hear at first.
Well, not really trivial, but it gets to a bigger point.
The way Quantrell and the James brothers fought, what do you think about that kind of war?
I love that kind of war.
And by the way, my great-grandfather on my daddy's side, after whom I'm named, and my name is James too, by the way, was befriended by old man Frank James when he was a young man.
How about that?
Yeah, absolutely.
I take great pride in that.
But yes, back to your question.
I love that kind of warfare.
That's the kind of warfare that oftentimes those who are in a position of inferiority as far as numbers and logistics and industrial capacity and so on and so forth, you know, the physical things of warfare have to fight in order to win.
And I think if the South had done more of that in 1861 through 65, we would have been successful.
And General Forrest was a great proponent of that kind of warfare.
And that's one reason I like him so much.
But I really do think that that kind of warfare is extremely effective because it levels the playing field.
It gets you the ability, if you're the weaker side, as it were, to have margin, leverage on the margins.
And you can beat a much bigger opponent that way.
So I like it.
Well, the United States still to this day struggles with guerrilla warfare.
And I will just share with you a very quick anecdote as well.
My dad, we were just talking about this story last week, how when my great-grandfather was just a boy and his brother, they would receive candy from this kind old guy, and they didn't know who he was.
It turned out to be Cole Younger.
He was very old by that.
And I think, if I'm not mistaken, that they may have been, I think it was a ticket taker at a theater.
My great-grandfather was from Corinth.
But anyway, yeah, so I love the stories of Frank and Jesse James, that Quantrell's Raiders.
If people don't know what they were all about, be sure to look it up.
Fighting the battle on the Western Front, the far Western Front at the time in Missouri, in the Missouri area and elsewhere.
But this is the question, though, that I wanted to get to after asking you that is, I mean, and Stonewall Jackson was an advocate for it too.
It wasn't just Forrest.
I mean, Stonewall Jackson, who I think along with Robert E. Lee, are probably 1A and 1B, and you can debate on which one's A and B.
But certainly probably the top two most pious Christian men to ever walk the soil here in North America.
I mean, they were godly men and fierce warriors.
But Stonewall Jackson wanted to raise the black flag.
I mean, he said it in no uncertain terms.
He said that is the only way that the Union would ever get the point.
And so I wonder, I mean, you know, and the Confederacy was perhaps too good, too good.
You know, when you have a chance at First Manassas to take the White House, which I think they certainly could have done, but what was the idea?
They would prove to these terrible, evil people, frankly, in the Lincoln administration, that they, well, they just wanted to secede.
And we could embarrass you here globally, or to the extent that that word would have traveled to Europe and beyond if they had taken the White House.
But they peeled back.
I mean, what would you say to that?
And what should have happened?
I mean, obviously, hindsight is what it is.
And this was a different time, and these were different men.
But I think they were just too good.
I don't think you can fight evil by being good.
Well, I think the only way of fighting evil and being good at the same time is to equate the destruction of evil with goodness.
And that's what I do.
There you go.
That's a better way of wording it.
Yes, be righteous, be holy at all times.
But to assume that when you're going up against an evil adversary, that your goodness is going to come across and somehow appeal to his better sensibilities.
That's what I'm driving at.
Always be good, yes, but be fierce.
Yeah, and when we say good, we're talking about obeying God's laws and statutes and all.
And there is certainly a statute against murder.
But at the same time, the obverse of that is the admonition that we have to preserve life.
And how do you preserve the life of good people?
You destroy evil.
I would have gone after Washington, D.C., because my philosophy is when somebody is proven to be my enemy and they want to destroy me and everything I love, I'm going to kill them at the first opportunity.
Well, let me ask you this, because this has been debated to the extent that would you agree that they could have taken Washington at First Manassas?
Yes, absolutely.
I think the Union Army was in a panic.
It was in disarray.
It would have been a piece of cake for a small but very well-organized and disciplined contingent of Confederates to have marched on Washington, to have ridden on Washington very quickly and to have destroyed it.
It was literally in a panic.
You could have called the Union Army.
Yeah, and all of its followers.
You know, they had a bunch of followers who came out with picnic baskets and all that to watch the glorious Union Army put down these rebels.
It would have been a slaughter in D.C.
We would have put this war over in a short period of time.
And of course, folks, if you're from outside the South, we call it First Manassas.
The Yankees call it the First Bull Run.
The First Battle of Bull Run is what they call it.
But the Confederates could see the White House from where they were.
This is the battle, of course, famously where people were, people, citizens in the local area, residents, came out and had a picnic as if this was just going to be some little skirmish where the South would get rioted, routed, and the South just kicked their ass and could have actually sacked the Capitol.
Now, that's not debated, really.
I mean, I think everybody agrees the South could have taken the White House.
They could have sacked Washington, D.C. that day early, early, early in the war.
But I think what is debated, Michael, is would that have been some sort of a definitive blow?
They would have still had formidable armies in the field.
It would have been embarrassing to the Union, but it would have really gotten us closer to winning the war.
Your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think it would have been such a moral blow to the nerve center of the Union at the time.
And at this point, very early in the war, the Union armies had not been marshaled and organized and trained to the degree that they would be, say, by 1863, 64.
And they would have never had the opportunity, I don't think, to do that had the nerve center in Washington been destroyed.
I think we could have forced them into a peaceful agreement that would have recognized Southern secession as legitimate.
I think certainly you look, I mean, Lincoln was barely hanging on in 1863 without losing the White House.
So I think if you hit him that hard, you hit him with that much of a demonstrative blow early on, it could have changed things.
But of course, the past is just that.
I bring it up for another reason, and that is, I was speaking with a man that I respect very much last week, Germar Rudolph, on this radio program, and we were talking about the freedom of speech and things like that.
And he was talking about Mahmoud Khalil, who was being deported for the things that he had said about Palestine.
And I said, Germart, you know, if I don't have a problem with restricting the freedom of speech when it is aiding and abetting things that are not in the best interests of our people, I'm for freedom of speech if it benefits white people.
I'm against it if it does not.
And he disagreed.
And I respect his disagreement because he spent four years in prison for his beliefs, and I didn't.
But, you know, Michael, I still maintain that this whole thing with Manassas is instructive.
And I disagree with Germer because I think if we ever get the other hand, if white people ever regain control of their nations again, all of this should be very instructive.
We should learn from these mistakes.
Yes, absolutely.
Once your enemy has proven himself to be your real enemy, that is, his goal is your destruction, there should never be any reason to negotiate with him.
Your objective should be to banish him or destroy him, whichever is possible.
And never let him in within your ambit again, because you know what he's like.
You know what his goal is, and you don't make that mistake twice.
I agree.
I think if ever we get a chance at bat again, and I think we will, but we may not.
But if we do, if we do, or when we do, we have to have a no-tolerance type of outlook.
I will not extend to them any courtesies that they have not extended to us and any sort of disadvantages they've thrust upon us over the course of our lifetimes and beyond.
Michael, you've suffered terribly from this through lawfare and other mechanisms.
We should do all of that and then some.
I do not believe we should give them any of the courtesies that we have.
No, I do not believe that at all.
But again, this goes back to what we've been talking about.
The South was just too good.
They were too good.
I've always thought that, James, that we were too good and too lenient.
We will be right back as we continue on with the one and only Dr. Michael Hill.
Great man, great friend.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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Democrats are mad.
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He was down on the border with the Minutemen Project back in those days, calling into the studio from a payphone with live reports.
He was fighting to preserve our nation then, and he still is.
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It's a beautiful, beautiful expression of white civilization here in the South.
The people, the culture, everything about it.
That's right, Jayce, I bet you didn't know a couple of good friends of mine are in that band.
As a matter of fact, I played it.
I wasn't going to call them out like that, but I played that particular intro and this particular segment while you were on because I do remember that you had some sort of an association with Shenandoah, which is the band.
That's the song Sunday in the South.
I didn't want to give away too much information, but I knew that you liked that song, Michael.
Let's just leave it at that.
I love that song.
Absolutely.
It's almost several incidents in my young life are characterized in that song.
I love it.
It's a beautiful thing, a beautiful expression of our people.
And I want to cover several different things with you, Michael, and we're going to have to move very, very, very quickly this one segment.
So if you could just give me an answer on this very quickly.
As you know, there are a lot of pro-white partisans, a lot of our friends, who are vehemently anti-Christian.
And I look at a guy like you who led that column in Charlottesville with great bravery, great courage.
And then I watched, of course, how, or listened rather, when you were on trial in Charlottesville and how you appointed yourself with just a fierce and steadfast resolve and determination.
How much of it was due to your faith?
And what would you say to the people in our ranks who are at once pro-white but very anti-Christian?
Is there a future for our people in the South or elsewhere if it's not tethered to something eternal?
No, there's not.
And what masquerades as Christianity today in 2025 is really not the masculine Christianity that our ancestors adhered to.
It's a weak, feminized version of what at one time was a very masculine faith.
No, before I led that column into battle in Charlottesville, as it were, I was on my knees praying about 4 o'clock in the morning.
And before I went into that trial a few years later, I was on my knees praying before I had to go sit in the box to testify in that trial, asking God for strength, wisdom, and the right words to say.
So, no, there's no future for the South without traditional Christianity.
And I'm sure you would extend that throughout all of Europe.
And folks, when Michael Hill speaks that message, please listen because I can guarantee you, whoever you are, you're not a tougher guy than he is.
And if the faith of our fathers is good enough for him, it's going to be good enough to you.
You need to.
If you have not yet received the gift of faith yet, I would encourage you to be open-minded and hearted to that.
But yes, because as you said, I mean, Michael, our people through under the cross conquered the entire world.
It was in the entire world, the age of exploration and beyond, where we reached the height of our civilization.
But anyway, we are here to talk about the South a little bit more.
And Michael, the last time you were on with us was November the 9th of last year.
So just a few months ago.
But that was a very interesting show for a couple of different reasons.
Number one, it was the first show since the election.
The election had taken place that Tuesday prior.
So this was Saturday, November the 9th.
You and I were together for a very interesting hour.
And it was made more interesting by the fact that we were together in Tennessee at a meeting of the Southern Nationalist League, which is the organization that you now head, the Southern Nationalist League.
But that was an interesting conversation.
Now, five months later, as a Southern nationalist, how do you view Trump and the administration and the offerings that we've received from Washington?
Well, obviously, as we talked about then, anything Trump could do to shut down the border and get rid of illegal aliens would be a good thing, whether you agree with the rest of his program or not, bringing jobs back home for Southerners here and all stuff like that.
So I think he's done some good things and, you know, trying to get rid of the waste in government and all that kind of stuff.
And there's some talk about shutting down the Fed, ending the income tax and the IRS.
I'll believe all that when I see it.
But it's, you know, it's in the right direction anyway.
But, you know, And I can't remember if we exactly talked about this topic or not, but I believe that Trump is kind of an accelerationist candidate.
Most people think, well, only a Democrat can be that because when the Democrats get in, things get bad.
And, you know, we start pulling people into the nationalist movement here, Southern Nationalist movement.
But, you know, Trump has made a lot of promises.
And I'm not sure that he's going to be able to keep them.
He may want to keep them.
I don't know.
I don't think he's going to be able to keep a lot of them because of the opposition against him.
And once those expectations are kind of swatted down that people have, they start looking around for different things.
And we hope they find the Southern Nationalist movement if they get disillusioned with what's going on with American politics in general.
But I've always been willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
He's not a Southerner.
He's not one of our people, obviously, but that doesn't mean God can't use him to do some good things.
So I'm willing to give him a chance.
Well, that's been our take on it.
And our take is if somebody does something that is seemingly good for our people or is in fact actually verifiably good for our people, why would we not want to say thank you?
And this is good and give him credit for that publicly.
Of course, if the things that he does and other people do that is not in the best interest of our people, we will issue our objections to that.
But I think, you know, at the end of the day, of course, he is not our savior, but he has done some good things, some actual, real good things that you would have gotten from no other president.
And in fact, certainly I have never gotten from any other president in my lifetime.
And then again, you have some people out there who are saying that he has done no good at all, no good whatsoever.
It seems the more he does that could be seemed as being good, the more incensed they become with him.
I'm talking about people in our ranks, Michael, almost as if they've become, and I love these people, but unreasonable contrarians on this point.
And I think it makes our collective look sort of cranky.
So again, how should a Southern nationalist navigate this current climate where you are for the first time, perhaps ever in your lifetime, getting some things coming out of the federal government that we would be in agreement with while understanding that this is an odd partnership for the moment?
Yes, it is.
You know, obviously, there are some people out there who are never going to want to have anything to do with you unless you agree with them 100% on everything.
And that's why you have a lot of people out there that will never be more than an organization of one because of that.
But I try to be realistic and I try to be flexible about these things without sacrificing my principles.
We are in the American political system, whether we want to be or not.
I'd love to be independent in the South right now and have our own country, but we don't.
But we are in the system and we do have threats against our existence.
I mean, they're existential threats.
And Trump has relieved the pressure on some of these, like particularly with the immigration thing and, you know, getting rid of the criminal element and sending them back to Venezuela or wherever the hell they're from and doing some other things.
And while he's doing that, you know, we don't need to be standing here criticizing him.
When he deserves criticism, yes, give it to him.
Give it to him with both barrels.
But when he does something good, stand back and let it be, you know, and enjoy the fruits of it.
Is it going to be terrific?
I agree 100% with you, my friend.
I just don't see the tactical or strategic advantage to opposing a guy who would be doing things that we would be doing if we were in there, by and large.
I understand the criticism about Jewish power and influence.
I understand Gaza.
But let me ask you this, because I've been talking about this.
really don't care what happens to a bunch of 85 IQ Muslims.
It's a terrible thing that's happening.
It is a genocide, but you know, things happen.
And I've never seen any Muslims that have really wrung their hands over what's happening to white people.
But I'm not, listen, I'm not in favor of either side of the sand wars and of the sand people, but it is a genocide.
It's terrible to see these little kids.
I've talked about this several times on the program in recent months.
I don't want to just relitigate all of that, but you know, I get it's a cudgel you can use against Israel.
I understand all of that, and they should be knocked down a peg, and that's fine.
But, you know, ultimately, tribes and people groups genocide each other all the time.
You know, whites have never really taken up a cause like that for another group like this, like I've seen with the Gazans.
It's peculiar.
Yeah, that's not our conflict.
We should stay out of it.
We've got more important things to deal with here at home and let them work out their differences in the Middle East without our participation.
That's my position on this.
I think we have much more important things to concentrate on here at home as nationalists.
I do too.
And as nationalists, as white nationalists, as Southern nationalists, but yes, I mean, these people will always be at odds.
They are always going to be fighting.
And by the way, if Israel didn't exist and the Jews were somewhere else, the Muslims would still be a problem for white civilization as they always have been.
I don't think you can make an alliance with these non-white people who have never been friends of Europe.
We'll be right back.
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I can feel the evening sun go down and all the lights in the houses one by one go out.
Somebody in the distance, nothing stirs about.
And the night is filled with the sound of a whipper wheel On a Sunday in the South Alright.
Just another Sunday.
Well, it's Saturday, but it'll be Sunday in the morning.
And a couple of friends of Michael Hill in that particular ensemble there, Shenandoah, Sunday in the South.
Of course, ladies and gentlemen, kicking off Confederate History Month tonight with us is Dr. Michael Hill, Dr. James Michael Hill, if he threw you off earlier by saying his name is James as well.
Those of us who know him knew that, but he is a retired university professor of history and the author of two books on Celtic warfare, one of our most regularly reappearing guests over the two decades plus run now here on TPC.
He's kicking off our Confederate History Month coverage again tonight.
We've been talking with him.
How should a Southern nationalist react to the good that Trump is doing?
We had that conversation.
It's been a no-nonsense conversation about our past, our present, and our future.
And before we bring on a surprise contributor for the last few minutes here, Michael, just very quickly, the Southern Nationalist League.
Give us more information, how people can join.
And this is the League of the South has been closed down.
And you have started a new organization, the Southern Nationalist League.
And we talked about that in that November interview last year as well.
Yes, we did.
Well, the simplest way to find out about us is to go to our new and very professional website, which is Southern, S-O-U-T-H-E-R-N-A-T League.
And you will find all the information you need about joining and getting into the Southern Nationalist movement right there.
Or you can find the number on there and call me, and I'll be glad to talk to you.
I know you've got some organizing meetings coming up in Alabama and elsewhere.
And folks, if you couldn't commit that URL to memory, just go to thepoliticalsspool.org, click on the listen to tonight's live broadcast, the Saturday, May 5th, excuse me, April 5th broadcast.
And Michael Hill's name will appear as a hyperlink.
And that link will take you right over there to the website for the Southern Nationalist League.
Now, a little bit of a surprise for everyone, including our guest, Courtney from Alabama.
I heard that Michael, also from Alabama, would be back on the show tonight.
And they have teamed up and paired up before on this show.
And, well, she wanted to do it again.
And Michael was not disappointed to find that out.
Courtney, how are you?
I'm good.
How are y'all doing?
Doing fine, Courtney.
Always good to hear your voice.
Always good to be all with you.
Thank you.
I feel the same way.
Would you like me to start, James?
Yeah, go ahead.
Just whatever topical thread or question you would have for Michael, take it away.
Okay, I'll try to run through this as quick as I can so he can have the rest of the segment to respond.
This is kind of a continuation of what we spoke about last time when I was on for the 4th of July.
You know, I, and I'm, you know, I feel, and I'm sure, you know, y'all are the same way, you know, we have a lot of friends in the movement who aren't Southerners who we would do anything for.
If they came on vacation down here to the South and their car broke down and a bad area, you know, we would leave our homes and go help them immediately.
And I love meeting people who aren't Southerners at conferences.
And, you know, when I'm on for Confederate History Month, I have complimented Northerners and whites from other parts of the country.
And, you know, I try to, you know, there are different cultures and stuff that I respect.
And I've tried to, you know, be nuanced.
Even when I'm on for Confederate History Month showing Southern pride, I try to be fair and nuanced.
And it's sincere.
But despite this, and I say this lovingly, when I interact with quite a bit of non-Southerners in our circles, whether in comment sections or in person, They seem to be offended by this idea of Southerners like us in the movement wanting self-preservation or separation.
And I think just because we want to preserve ourselves and see ourselves as separate, that doesn't mean we hate other whites or don't care about them.
I think we as Southerners can do our part to help our race as a whole, including whites outside the South, while also preserving ourselves as Southerners at the same time.
And it is a legitimate concern we have because Southern culture is dying very quickly.
I saw some stats recently on North Carolina where most of the people living in that state are from outside the state instead of from inside the state.
And we're starting to see the same thing happen in our state of Alabama in certain areas.
How do we, my question is, how do we convince other whites who aren't Southerners that by wanting to preserve ourselves as a separate people, that this doesn't mean that we wish ill will to other white people?
Well, that's been a perennial problem.
I remember having a conversation with Richard Spencer back when I was still talking with him years ago.
And he's a pan-Europeanist, pan-white nationalist, whatever you want to call him.
He believes in the worldwide white movement.
And I've got nothing against helping other whites, just as you said.
But, you know, I look at Southerners.
Southerners are my particular people.
And we have, indeed, we have a particular people and a particular culture that is different from anything else in the world.
Yes, it has European roots, mainly in the British Isles, but it's also been filtered through 400 years of living here in the South, and that's made us different.
And it's made, it's given us something that we as Southerners are comfortable with.
And I don't expect other people to understand that the way we understand it, because this is ours.
It's not theirs.
They look at it from the outside.
We look at it from the inside.
I look at Southerners as my brothers and sisters.
I look at other whites from outside of the South, whether it be on the West Coast, in the North, the Midwest, or whether it be in some European country or New Zealand, Australia, Canada, wherever.
I look at them as my cousins.
I love them, yes, but I don't love them like I love my immediate family.
So, you know, they just have to understand, you know, we are particular people with a particular culture that we love and we don't want to give it up.
We're not just going to merge ourselves into some white, you know, group out there that doesn't have any particular cultural attributes that we're familiar with.
And, you know, I would do anything to help these people, anything that I could.
But my first love and my first duty is to my own people here in the South.
And I want the South to stay Southern.
I don't mind if some of these people come in and live among us if they will only understand that they're not here to change things.
They're here to adapt to the way that we live.
They're not here to change things to make themselves more comfortable.
In other words, as a friend of mine used to say, to make Columbia, South Carolina into Columbus, Ohio, that's not going to work.
That's going to get us Southerners angry, and you don't want us angry.
But I feel the same way.
We have something worth preserving, and other whites need to understand that this is not any, you know, not any animosity toward them.
We want them to preserve what they have and, you know, to agree that, you know, we have the right to preserve what we have down here.
It's not any hostility toward them.
It's not any, we think we're superior, although we are, cautiously speaking.
I wouldn't trade my southern heritage and culture for anything.
So, you know, it's just a matter of perspective on these things, but they have to respect who we are.
And if they do, I don't mind having a few of them coming among us if they respect who we are and what we want to keep.
But if they come down here trying to change things, I don't care if they are white people.
You're going to find some of us digging our heels in and opposing that.
And, you know, opposing it pretty damn strongly, really.
Because I wouldn't dare go to France or Germany or somewhere like that and demand that they start living like I do, even though they're fellow whites and I wish them nothing but the best.
I respect their respective cultures, and I expect them to do the same for mine.
Michael, to the extent that our culture has been watered down by the big cities, you know, certainly becoming a lot more diverse, not just with non-whites, but with whites from other parts of the country and the world, the rural South is better in that regard.
It still exists much more palpably.
Do you see a future?
I mean, can this be something that 50 years from now, even 100 years from now, there's still an identifiable southern culture in Dixie?
Well, I think we're going to have to make a big effort, James, to preserve it because there are so many forces from the outside that want to destroy it and sort of homogenize it with everything else.
And it's going to take some effort on our part.
It's not going to protect itself.
It's a very, I think, a very fragile thing if nobody's there to protect it.
But if somebody is there to protect and nourish it and get our young people to adapt it, I think it's an extremely strong thing that we can lean on.
If you want to be a part of that, ladies and gentlemen, southern at league.com.
SouthernATLAG.com.
That is for the Southern Nationalist League.
A very brief appearance from Courtney tonight, but we appreciate her contributions and her question, which gave for an interesting content matter for the last segment here.
You'll hear from Courtney again at the end of the month in a much more formal appearance.
But thank you, Courtney, for that.
And thank you, Michael, for kicking off our Confederate History Month Series 2025.