March 8, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome on and all to tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
I'm your host, James Edwards, as our march around the world continues.
Just last week, we kicked it off in grand fashion.
Getting our telephonic frequent flyer miles, racking them up, traveling throughout the United Kingdom, Canada, Puerto Rico, and Brazil.
Tonight, we're going to put your ticket to Croatia and Australia when retired diplomat Dr. Tom Sunich and Professor Andrew Fraser, respectively, join our world showcase.
But that is not all.
We will also be critiquing Trump's speech to Congress this week and discussing other news and current events stateside.
How do our esteemed guests this evening feel as though our people are faring in their respective nations?
And what are their thoughts on Trump's two-month blitzkrieg thus far?
To find out, let's not waste any more time.
Let's go right now to Zagreb in the heart of Central Europe, where we are joined by the one and only Tom Sunich, who is a mainstay on this program during March Around the World.
And it is great to have him back on this evening.
Tom, how are you?
Thank you very much for your invitation, James.
And my best wishes to all southerners.
You know, I feel very much attached to the South.
At this stage, I'm not ruling out that I might relocate back.
I can tell you more about that now, especially with the situation now in Europe deteriorating.
So I guess this time I'll just have to switch gears a little bit.
Well, I want to talk to you about the situation in Europe, but let's first talk about your reaction to Donald Trump.
You have been a staunch critic of the United States system, but you now see the Trump administration as the only salvation for the Western world.
That is very strong praise coming from a veteran of your caliber.
Absolutely.
I would have never thought about this, but this is exactly what's happening.
Let me tell you one thing.
Trump is not just affecting the situation in Europe.
He's also standing up to the legacy media and to the system in the United States of America.
And I guess at this stage, all people, all dissident-minded people in Europe and, of course, the United States of America have to back him up.
I guess at this stage, he's really the best person that we have.
And I guess we all have to support him very, very, very much.
Because most of what he's doing now in the United States is spilling over in Europe.
And I can see realignments.
I can see some new paradigms.
I don't like this word very much, but I can see that people are shifting gears.
And as I said a while ago, with the deteriorating situation here in Europe, I'm not ruling out that this time I may be relocating back to the United States of America.
And I was extremely happy when I heard.
I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard him talk When actually when he dressed down this guy, this ex-clown, ex-ex-comedian, when he started talking about, when J.D. Veinsk, when he started talking about the lack of free speech in Europe, I guess this is something we barely, we barely need.
I hope you realize, and we already discussed about this on your program, James, that we don't have the First Amendment here in Europe.
So more or less I envy you in a sense, and I hope that things will continue in the right directions, although I cannot rule out that he may be facing some troubles within some of his detractors in Washington, D.C. Tom, this is key.
Hello, Keith.
What I seem to see happening over there is that the liberal establishment is used to America falling in line with their desires, for example, how the Ukrainian war is waged.
And now they're running into headwinds.
What do the average man on the street or woman on the street think about Trump and about his approach to Ukraine?
You mean in Europe, right?
Look, Europe is very much divided on the issue of the Ukrainian war.
And I don't want to call it the Russian aggression because if we look at, I've got to be a little bit more careful with the choice of my words because even if we want to study the so-called Russian aggression, we've got to look at the root causes of this aggression, at the role of Clinton and the role of Obama's and of course Biden's environment in Ukraine prior to the Russian aggression two or three years back, two years ago.
Particularly Victoria Newton.
Yes, and again, Europe is deeply split.
Now you have a very strange alliance now.
You have the extreme right.
I don't like using this word, extreme right, that's how the legacy media call them.
The ASD, for instance, a very, very strong party in Germany.
I know some people firsthand there, and also the Rassemblement Nationale, the French party ruled by Marine Le Pen.
They are very much for the cessation of hostilities.
And I don't want to call them pro-Putinists, but they certainly are very much advocating for the rapid solution of this conflict.
And keep in mind that now also this is the extreme left, let's call them the, that's how the legacy media calls them.
They're also for the secession of this conflict.
So basically what you hear from the media, from the mainstream media in Europe, you have to take with a great deal of caution, with great doses of suspicion, because this guy, Macron,
the French president, I mean, he acts, I guess, again, I have to be careful with my words, but he's not a serious gentleman at all because the French parliament, for instance, just for information, doesn't have a majority of votes in favor, how can I put it, of this war.
In fact, the majority of votes is scared by the majority of seats rather scared by Marine Le Pen's Rassemblement Nationale and Soumi, the other party, the left wing.
So again, you have a very strong, strange alliances now popping up, like the extreme left and extreme right being opposed to the war.
And then, of course, in Germany, Germany has a fragile government.
It's not even a government yet.
So I guess it seems to me that they're just trying to cover up their fragile, fragile institutional framework, both in Germany and France, by doubling down, by rather mimicking this anti-Russian hysteria.
Just like, you know, two years back we were witnessing this COVID hysteria and now we are witnessing this anti-Russian hysteria.
Now, if you follow this logic, well, soon we'll be banned to read Sozhenitsyn for probably some anti-communist authors.
So I guess I just heard the phone ringing, but now it's stopped.
Are you?
Yeah, no, that's fine.
I know we have a little bit of an echo, folks.
We're working on it.
Liz, I just tried the information I gave you, and it just rang through to him.
I heard it ringing, so I don't know exactly where we're missing here.
But we have a little bit of an echo, and we're going to troubleshoot that during the break.
But by all means, my friend, continue on.
We're talking about the state of affairs in Central Europe.
We'll dive a little bit more deeply into that in the next segment.
But I did want to open with you tonight, Tom, asking your response to everything that is happening here stateside, Trump's incredible speech to Congress this week, and if you believe that the current trends that are developing in America will wash over to Europe's shores.
That's a recurring question we're going to be asking many of our guests this month.
Your thoughts on that?
Well, yes, this is really a historic speech of his.
And first, I admire this gentleman.
And don't get me wrong, I don't want to pend it to him or fall over with some false love for Trump.
What I fear most, and I need to stress that, is, well, there's always this possibility that somebody from the inside, especially folks who lost their jobs, you know, with those purges, so to speak.
And I'm glad that he's conducting those purges, President Trump.
I guess it's good for all of us because this is sending the right message to those creation Eurocrats, I call them.
And I can imagine how many Eurocrats we have here.
So I guess what Trump is doing is truly something unprecedented, something historic and historical at the same time, and sending the right message to all of us in Europe.
Of course, I do have some misgivings about some of his policies, especially as far as the Middle East is concerned, and we can cover that a little bit later on.
But by and large, he's truly the only president.
The way I can think back, like since 1945, I haven't seen such massive changes occurring.
And of course, now you basically want to find out how Europe is doing and what is the mental framework of Europeans as far as Trump is concerned.
And we'll come to that in a second.
That's what we will come back to.
We're going to arrest this echo during the break, recalibrate, back with us.
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Well, we are still working on this echo with Tom Sunich.
This is a novel problem, even after all these years.
But nevertheless, I would rather have Tom with a slight echo than not have Tom at all because he is one of the guests who adds the intellectual heft to our march around the world.
So, Tom, I know I think you were trying to call the studio there during that last break, but you can just cease and desist that and hop back on your laptop there, and we will continue on if that's all right with you.
Listen, you've got to apologize.
I'm a little bit retarded as far as those computer gadgets are concerned.
And I've got to tell you, when I talk to Kevin McDonald, when I talk to my friends, and including yourself, I usually switch to Zoom, whatever you call it, and it just works perfectly.
And I'm surprised I wouldn't like to embarrass myself and embarrass your listeners with those incompetence of mine.
But I guess go ahead.
I was trying to tell you because we have perfect lines here.
The Croatian network is connected to the German whatever satellites.
I mean, I talk to folks in Australia.
I mean, hello to Andrew Fraser as well.
Yes, you'll be coming on tonight.
Yes, but my best wishes to all of you.
And don't forget to extend my wishes to your southerners and my southerners.
Well, we will look forward to seeing you again.
We're going to do a little more troubleshooting at the bottom of the hour, but let's not waste any more time talking about that.
We have a five-minute break coming up at the end of the next segment.
But, Tom, I want to get back to this, and then I want to talk about what's going on in Croatia.
I mean, this is one of the highlights of our March Around the World series: talking with thought leaders, elected officials, activists in these various ports of call about what's going on on the ground in their respective homelands.
And so, we certainly want to hear from you about what's going on in Croatia and Central Europe in general.
But before we do, I just want to go back to this very quickly, because there does seem to be a consensus developing, and it's one that you share.
And there is a it's not a unanimous consensus, mind you.
We have good friends who are still very skeptical, but I will just, For the purposes of polling some of our most regular guests on the air since Trump has been inaugurated, you have Jared Taylor, who is very skeptical of Donald Trump in the months leading up to the election.
Jared is now singing the praises of the administration.
You have Kevin McDonald, who is perhaps certainly one of the world's foremost authorities on Jewish power and influence and Jewish group think, if you will.
He wrote an article at the Occidental Observer recently entitled The Possibility of a New Elite.
He thinks we are turning a corner, even with that issue still being particularly the European elite.
And then Paul Faram last week on the program said that Trump has done more good for white people in the last 45 days than any president since Calvin Coolidge.
And then Nick Griffin, who was more than a Trump skeptic, frankly, saying that Trump has won him over.
Nick Griffin was on last week, and this is where we go back to you, Tom.
You wanted to talk about the illusion of NATO, and I'd like to know what you mean by that.
Nick Griffin said last week that in light of Trump's summit with Vladimir Zelensky, that we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of NATO.
Do you believe that?
And what do you mean by the illusion of NATO?
Creating and what was the purpose of NATO?
It was created primarily as a policy of what we used to, when I was a grad school in the UC system, was for double containment, containing communism, containing the Soviet Union ever since it was founded in 1949.
I was Turman and afterwards.
Why double?
Because its purpose was also to contain Germany, to contain the central European power, the strongest part.
Of course, it was not explicitly formulated and laid out in such a manner, but basically NATO's purpose was double, the double containment.
Now, after this so-called Cold War ended, whatever, I don't know why they call it Cold War, and I don't like this pep talk and all this pellover that we use in the graduate schools.
And again, it was sort of assumed that NATO would not spread out further east.
But as we know very well, you know, the Warsaw Pact, of course, don't forget the Warsaw Pact, was created six years after NATO was created.
It was created in 1955.
So again, I don't want to exonerate now the Russians or the Soviets, but definitely the Soviets did their job rather correctly.
In fact, they pulled out of Eastern Europe, they pulled out of Poland.
You know, Poland is now the fervent member of NATO, and of course, it's very anti-Russian.
Of course, there are also historical reasons for that.
If you want to understand the Polish attitude towards Russia, of course, the Baltic countries, it's a different ballgame.
Even my friends who are quote-unquote nationalists and right-wingers in Finland, you know some of them well.
In Sweden, they are very much pro-Ukrainian, much more so than Hungarians or Croats, or for that matter, Slovaks.
We haven't had over the last 40, 50, 60 years, and even earlier back, if you go over the last century, we haven't had such terrible experience or terrible, bad experience with the Russians as the Finns did, as the Soviets, the Swedes, and the Northern and Baltic countries.
So again, you have to look from different perspectives.
This quagmire now in Europe.
Now, back to your question.
NATO was created, and of course it's still controlled, by the way, by the United States.
And of course, it's the U.S. taxpayers who pay for it.
And I feel sorry for U.S. taxpayers, including myself.
The Europe actually shoulder this burden and not the American taxpayers.
Now, again, we have another story, and I don't know how this is going to work out, because most of those facilities, most of those satellite facilities in NATO facilities in Europe, and let's just focus for a second in Germany are controlled basically by the American troops.
There is over 100,000 American troops all over Europe, from Finland all the way to Greece, and then from Spain all the way to, of course, to Ukraine, although not officially.
So somebody's in control of all those different codes and numbers and ciphers or whatever you want to call it.
So basically, I'm very, very, again, I must stress again, I'm happy that President Trump chose the right rhetoric, he chose the right language in order to confront the Europeans and tell them, look, folks, if you want to have some security, if you want to live high on the hills, you have free health service and everything, please, you know, pitch in, dish out some money, and our taxpayers can't do that.
And that's the reason I really admire Trump.
And again, keep in mind, as I said earlier, I'd like to focus on that a little bit.
He's basically unraveling this legacy of Clinton and this guy, Biden, and of course Obama.
Those were terrible politicians.
They were not American politicians.
In fact, they were just, I would call them, they were bad politicians to start with.
And I'm happy this is literally the last moment in our life that we could probably come up with, that the American citizens, American voters could come up with a man of such stature and such skills.
And I truly, and I'm not joking this time, and truly this has been a massive moment in my personal development.
Once upon a time, you know what I wrote, I wrote a book, Homo Americanus, and I made this comparison between Homo Americanus and Homo Sovieticus during the Clinton's time and during Obama's time.
But now the moment has come where I have to completely reverse my stance toward the United States of America.
And I'm not joking again, because I'm not America by accident, I'm by choice, and I'm not ruling out that if things considered in such a bad direction here in Europe, I might go back to your place too, the West, and settle down in the United States of America.
And I'm so happy indeed that Trump has won and I'm so happy.
The only thing I fear, I am a little bit, I must say, I'm a little bit paranoid because you remember what happened during the first tenure of his.
Half of his staff walked out on him, betrayed him, lied to him, and I hope his new crew is more committed and more committed to the how much are they going to be able to read the mindset of Europeans and the shifty politics here going on and constantly changing alliances and allegiances.
I don't know.
Other than that, of course, you know, I don't know if it's worthwhile talking about this.
I am a little bit skeptical about his policies to the Middle East, but I understand that he has to balance out a little bit.
Let me put it somewhat diplomatically.
I don't want to use harsh language.
I guess he had to satisfy the neo-cause in a way, and in a sort of a Jewish lobby as well in Washington, D.C.
I just read that comments by Alan Darshowitz, and I follow also the syntax and the morphology, or rather the rhetoric of ADL and SPLC.
I don't know if you have noticed, or your listeners, they've toned down somewhat their rhetoric against Trump.
They've smoothed over a couple of things which just two months ago, two months back, you know, I just couldn't even think about.
So, yes, I guess there must have been not a secret deal.
I'm just talking about the matter of political survival, you know, even what we can.
I guess this is something I'd like to focus on a little bit because I can, you know, I know very well what's going on out at the Columbia University's was happening, was happening, and it's still happening at some place in Europe.
Like, you know, you have a strange alliances now.
The right-wing, quote-unquote, right-wing is siding up with Trump and also making their pilgrimages to Israel and making a pilgrimage to this.
We'll talk about this in a while.
Listen to this pro right here, Tom Sunich, Dr. Tomislav Sunich.
He knows when to take a break.
He's a radio professional after all these years with us.
And he heard the music and he's taking a timeout.
We'll take it with him.
We'll be back in five minutes.
We'll talk a little bit more about NATO, the EU, Russia, and Croatia, his homeland, where he is tonight.
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A lot of credit due to our production team on the other side of the glass tonight, Liz and Jay, over there making this show go out to a global audience every Saturday night.
And we have.
You never know from week to week what snafus will run.
Well, I mean, they're always up to the task.
That is correct.
And when you're doing live radio, things happen.
And you've seen it on other programs and you've seen it on TV even.
And these things happen when you're doing live production that isn't, you know, edited with a spit and polish.
And so, somewhere between Memphis and Zagreb tonight, there was a gremlin in the phone line, a little bit of an echo.
And they did a good job of mitigating that, by the way, in that last segment.
We're going to skip the break here for the floater and just go all the way to the wall.
It is 1:35 a.m. in Zagreb, the heart of Croatia, this beautiful coastal nation.
Tom is losing his beauty sleep tonight.
That's right.
Handsome guy.
He doesn't need too much.
But I will remind you very quickly that Dr. Tomislav Sunich, our guest right now, holds a doctorate in political science.
He gives lectures all around the world.
Keith, you were just enamored by a recent speech he gave.
He has authored several books, including the aforementioned Homo Americanus, Child of the Postmodern Age.
He has previously served in various diplomatic positions with the Croatian government in Zagreb, London, Copenhagen, and Brussels.
And he was just in Belgium again a few days ago.
So again, we are recapping the fact that over the course of the last 45 days, since Trump has been reinaugurated, people like Kevin McDonald, Jared Taylor, Paul Fromm, Nick Griffin, Tom Sunich are reassessing their opinions on just how good this is.
These are not rookies.
These are people with vast amounts of success and experience.
And so we were talking about NATO a moment ago.
You know, by the way, a listener of the program reminded me that Eisenhower met with John F. Kennedy briefly during that transition of power, and he said to him, get the United States out of NATO.
Nick Griffin believes that it now may happen as a result of Trump.
But I want to talk to you about this now, Tom, very quickly.
EU hypocrisy, you write in your outline to me, and you're talking about the arming of extreme Ukrainian militants against Russia, yet banning and throwing into prison in places like Germany and the UK, for instance, nationalists who engage in the wrong types of speech and thought.
Elaborate on that.
Yeah, by all means, and I'm so glad that you brought this up.
And in fact, I've written about this for the Occidental Observer and some other podcasts I did.
And this is something folks in the United States and also in Europe have to be aware of.
Germany, for instance, is giving a vast amount of money to Ukraine, providing them with logistics and so on.
And of course, they're also arming both explicitly and implicitly the Azov battalion.
And I'm not talking from the top of my head, but there are quite a few of Azov nationalists, would you call them neo-Nazis, Ukrainian Nazis, whatever that means.
I'm a little bit over skeptical of using those big words.
But they are fighting.
They're extreme nationalists.
They're supporting them.
The European Union is supporting them because the fiercest and the best fighters, and the quotation marks, in Ukraine are actually white nationalists.
Now, at the same time, here you have this massive hypocrisy that I'm not talking again from the top of my head because I know this firsthand.
I'm not going to cite you the names, but you know some of them very well.
They have very harsh penalties and they're very harsh legislations being enacted and more and more so in France and in Germany and elsewhere against free thinkers, against dissidents, whatever they call them, revisionists or Holocaust deniers or you name it.
So even nowadays in Germany, you have strict what they call it anmeldungstelle.
It's appointments, I'll try to translate it, appointment centers where people can denounce their citizens who make jokes about Muslims or Muslims or for that matter foreigners who do not fit who foreigners by and large.
And of course Germany is a sick, it's an erotic nation.
It is completely self-censored nation in a sense.
I feel very much sorry for them.
And I guess the same scenario you have in France, although to a lesser extent, and I must tell you, I'm very critical of the Christian government itself.
They're just, you know, they're mimicking.
They're actually doubling down in many instances and trying to be more people than the Pope himself by implementing those hate laws or whatever the hate crimes, whatever this word means.
So again, keep in mind this is the large-scale hypocrisy that we are witnessing.
On the one hand, the European Union pumping in lots of money into Ukraine and arming their best soldiers who are definitely all right-wingers or nationalists.
And on the other hand, they're imprisoning people, they're punishing people, they're stripping of their jobs and their tenures in the whole of Europe.
So again, if there are some folks in the United States of America who still have some illusions about the European Union, they've got to be very, very careful.
And again, I must commend JD Vance, whatever we may think about him and also Mark Rubio.
Now, let's leave aside some of their other policies.
But by and large, they need to be commended for bringing up this issue which has been bothering, which has been, how can I put the, I'm trying to find the best word, which has been assailing European intellectuals for such a long period of time, especially in Germany, you know, which is basically a police state.
Again, and I'm very happy.
I hope that this will spill over and I am sure that President Trump will not stop there, but that he will continue with his free speech and policy and also try to be a little bit more aggressive vis-à-vis European bureaucrats.
I could now talk for an hour about European Union or what we call it Euro-Slavia because that's what awaits the European Union.
Most likely it will break apart in us.
Who knows?
But it's basically a corruption-prone area.
And look, I don't know if I mentioned that because I guess we don't have so much time.
But keep in mind that none of those European commissars or commissioners is being elected.
Even Ursula von der Leyen and this guy and this lady, Katia Kallas, she's from Finland.
She's in charge of foreign policy.
I mean, these are really high-skilled folks.
And even if you look at their faces, even if you look at their phenotypes, you sometimes wonder, I don't want to be vulgar on the phone.
You wonder what type of who is running the show in Europe.
And this guy, he reminds me of Moliere, Statif, and Ganarel.
There's two figures from Malias comedies.
His name is Macron.
He plays big now.
There are some vulgar words.
And I'll tell it, the French have the expression, Il pet plio que son queu.
He farts more than his ass allows him, literally.
The French are very good, you know, homonyms.
So again, there's another one they have.
French is a very, you know, it's full of homonyms and synonyms, so you can play with words much better than with the English language.
So again, when you look, when you study in depth the political class and even those, what do you call them, poodles, those lapdogs here in Croatia, again, I know some of those people very well as a former people.
That raises a question.
I don't know very well what they privately think.
They're fully in line with you, James, believe it or not.
But publicly, they just want to keep their tenures, what we call a sine coupre.
They want to keep their prebonde, as the French say.
They're just turf and they just don't want to lose their good life.
I guess I could go on with some graphic descriptions of this whole situation in Europe.
But to be more specific, sure.
What I would like to ask you is this.
Here in America and in the West, when we think about the European position, the European position is basically Germany, France, England.
Now, Western Europe, what does Central and Eastern Europe think about Trump and about the Ukraine war?
I think they basically are horrified with Trump, and regarding the Ukraine war, they want to fight the war to the last Ukrainian.
What do the leaders of Central European nations, Eastern European nations, do they differ at all from the France, England, Germany triumphant or not?
Good question.
Thank you very much.
Look, if you look at the recent election in Germany, you will notice that the former communist Germany, the East Germany, Eastern part of Germany, voted massively in favor of the AFD.
So basically, this is the mindset of most, well, I should say not most, but many, many East Europeans, or rather folks who actually were subjugated by the communist terror.
They have a much healthier, much better attitude towards this conflict going on now in Ukraine.
And they're certainly, and I can't give you the right statistics, I guess, that that's why I've got to be careful with that.
But they're certainly much more pro-Trump, they're much more in favor, they're much more sympathetic to Trump's administration than the decadent, we can call it Western Europe and the bureaucracy in Strasbourg and Brussels.
So yes, in Croatia, if you talk to people in church, like tomorrow, if you talk to people in cafe coffee shops, and even in Serbia, regardless, despite our historical feuds between Serbs and Croats, most nationalists in Croatia, Croatia, and Serbia are very much pro-Trump.
You know, I even hate to use this word Serb nationalists because it has a negative connotation.
But by and large, given the fact that we all experience communism firsthand, we know very well what this ethnic sensitivity training means, what this DEI, we called it differently, but basically DEIC, I got to tell you that, kids, it's a carbon copy of what we had back in communist Yugoslavia back in the 50s and 60s when I was born.
And I'm so happy indeed.
I'm jubilant.
Yeah, DEI, yes, I'm sorry.
Diversity, equality, and whatever.
This is a typical Orwellian language, a glossary.
I call it the glossary, Orwellian glossary, Alexi.
We're going to be getting into this in the next hour.
So folks, stay tuned.
And in the third hour, we're going to head down to Australia and check in with Drew Fraser, Professor Fraser, right now in Croatia during this stop on our march around the world with diplomat Tom Sunich.
But we're going to be talking about a lot of these words have been stricken from the government LechCon.
That's exactly right.
We're going to talk about that and dive into Trump's speech to Congress in detail in the next hour.
But I do want to check in with you on the state of Croatia itself, you being a representative for that nation in this series of ours.
But first, if I could get a quick answer on this before we focus specifically on Croatia, just the EU at large, you write that the self-delusional EU, their lies, that they pontificate about the integrity of Ukrainian borders, yet they keep the borders of their own nation states, the nations that make up the EU, open, wide open, to thousands of non-European invaders.
And so at once, how can you reconcile this, Tom?
And do you believe that the EU will meet a pivot point as America has apparently done?
Well, I'm glad that you raised this question again.
You see, there's so many issues we can discuss about.
Look, first and foremost, you know, Zelensky, you know, this guy, let's call him an ex-comedian.
I don't want to use brutal words against him.
But he's not even an ethnic Ukrainian.
You know his background very well.
He's not Slav.
And you hear him on all wavelengths, on all frequencies, talk about the unity and integrity of Ukrainian borders.
I wonder, and of course, then you have those European commissars who paired the same slogan, unity and integrity of Ukraine.
Now, what the heck are you talking about?
They are not even familiar with the ethnic composition of eastern Ukraine.
There are lots and lots of Russians and Russophones who live there.
So you don't get the whole picture in the mainstream media.
It's far more complicated than that.
Again, don't get me wrong.
I'm not advocating Putin.
I'm not advocating strong Russia.
I like Solzhenitsyn.
Of course, I was raised on Solzhenitsyn's books in Communist Yugoslavia, which was forbidden literature back then.
But again, I'm deeply disturbed with this hypocrisy on the part of Western governments, especially EU governments, when they talk about preserving unity and integrity of Ukraine.
And yet there are several million people, Ukrainians, who have fled the country, let alone that Europe itself.
Can you imagine how big it is?
Like Croatia is now literally on the border, how can I say, the external border of the European Union.
Literally hundreds and thousands of people on the daily basis, illegal migrants.
They're felons.
When you cross the border without appropriate papers and documents, you're committing a felony.
And those folks are not just being let through, they're even being housed and taken care of.
And you're not even supposed to make a joke against them.
You're not even supposed to criticize them.
I don't want to say that you're going to go to prison, but you can be de-banked.
You know the word debanked.
Or you can have some troubles at your work.
So I guess the only legitimate refugees in the EU are refugees from Ukraine.
All these other ones are, that's just an excuse to be there.
They were going to be there one way or another.
Well, let me ask this because we are beginning to run a little bit low on time.
And I want to be sure to work this in because I want to be sure to touch on Croatia.
We cannot have a guest this month that doesn't talk about his native land, his home.
Yes, that's right.
But I would say this.
I saw the odious John Bolton on the news here last week, or at least since the Trump and Zelensky meeting at the White House.
And I think you could make a very compelling case that John Bolton is a traitor and should be brought up on charges of treason.
Victorian.
Just look at this guy, John Bolton.
I mean, I freak out when I see his face and when I see the way he talks.
He's like Walrus.
I mean, I accept that Mrs. Lady Bondi, she looks very good, by the way.
She's a nice night across as well.
She's very much.
She's my type, you know.
Anyway, I don't want to come back to Marsha.
And also this lady, Tulsi Gobbard, she is really an extraordinary lady.
They need to be supported, and we've got to give credit to Trump for choosing the right picks.
And I hope she she'll bring him to justice, this guy, Bolton.
I agree with you.
Pam Bondi and Tulsi Gabbard are especially Gabbard.
But Bondi has has done well so far in her position.
One of the best things that Trump has done is he's found the Achilles heel of the left in America, and that's money, government money.
And I mean, they're squealing like stunt pigs.
And we'll talk about that in the next hour, too.
But John Bolton said this to get back to that.
John Bolton said, speaking of NATO, that NATO was established to counter Russia and the existential threat that they pose to democracy.
Now, you know, that's interesting, Tom, and I know that you'll appreciate this.
That's interesting because NATO wouldn't have been, and as you mentioned earlier, NATO will fall apart without the United States bankrolling it.
So if the United States will pull out of that, you're going to have a totally different, very weak NATO if it exists at all.
But you wouldn't have even needed a NATO to so-called counterbalance Russia if the United States had not blundered into going to war in the 1940s to make the world safe for communism, which is exactly what they did.
And if it had not been for that, then you wouldn't need this, and a lot of problems would have resolved themselves in advance.
But this actually leads me to Croatia.
So when you were on last year as a participant in this series, March Around the World, you shared with us that Croatia is the safest and most ethnically homogenous nation in the European Union.
And I asked you, you know, how that's going to be, but only for the time being.
But listen, even the demographic profile of Croatia is changing because, look, what I don't like about the Croatian ruling class is they are just like lapdogs.
They just want to pair it to the European Union big rulers.
And they sometimes want to even outsmart, and how can I say, they double down on the European Union Eukasis.
And I don't like that too much.
You've got good bones there, Tom.
Tom.
You've got good bones there with your people, though, because, I mean, this goes back historically speaking.
You shared with us last year, and then I'll let you have the floor and take us all the way.
We've got about five minutes left.
And thank you again for being an integral part of this series again this year.
But I mean, Croatia, still, though, right now, ruling class, perhaps notwithstanding, still the most ethnically homogenous nation, the most white nation in Europe.
But it goes all the way back to the World Wars, where Croatia was Germany's last ally, the last man standing to the bitter end in World Wars I and II.
So you've got some people there who obviously have a good head on their shoulders.
So what is going on there now, and what does the future look like?
Look, you've got to keep in mind also the stigma of Nazis.
That's not the right word.
National socialism is the right expression.
And the Creek Rats have been stigmatized as they still are, you know, by some media as last neo-Nazis, last allies of National Socialist Germany.
Of course, German, Croatia has traditionally, geopolitically and geographically speech, intellectually, literally, whatever you want to put it, has been fused with Germany, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and all the way.
And now this new political class which wants to play the big time Europeanists, you see, they want to get rid of this stigma.
And that's probably the reason why over the last 30 years Croatia has been more in line with the European Union than with trying to exonerate themselves from their quote-unquote fascist past.
So to some extent you can draw the parallel between the political class in Germany and the political class in Croatia.
That's a big parallel we got to make.
Except, of course, we had the recent war here, so folks are a little bit brave.
They don't have such harsh punishment like the German Criminal Code 130 or what they call it, Volkswerhetzung, you know, incitement, hatred, popular incitement.
We don't have it, so Croatia still has a certain margin of maneuvering, even for revisionists, which Germany does not.
But by and large, both Germany and Croatia, and to some extent Slovakia and Hungary, they were also good allies of Germany during the Second World War.
It was not just Germany, bad, ugly crowds, as they say.
And almost half of Europeans were fighting.
We all had parents fighting on both sides, both on the communist and the fascist side.
So things are far more complicated.
So by and large, Croatia now, as I said, I'm not very happy with the political class in Croatia because it's way too much privy, how can I put it, too servile, too submissive to every demand from the European Union.
I do hope, however, that Trump will play a decisive role in changing the mindset of European politicians in the months to come.
I do too.
And when we talk to you again, it'll be very interesting to see how far that progresses, how far down that road we've gone.
Last question for you, Tom.
And this is just sort of almost an aside, but it's curious.
Folks, pull up a map of Central Europe and look at Croatia.
This is a very uniquely carved nation.
It looks as though Croatia had, at all costs, was not going to give Bosnia and Herzegovina any coastline there.
It looks like there's some parts of Croatia that slims down to about a mile wide and they block off Bosnia and Herzegovina from the coast there in the Adriatic Sea.
How did your borders come to look like that?
This is a very interesting looking nation.
Diplomatic victory.
Well, first, those borders were actually designed and laid out by the communists in 1945.
And afterwards, they were accepted by the international community, whatever that word means, the international community.
And of course, during the war of secession 30 years back, Croatia wanted to recuperate one quarter of Bosnia and Herzegovina, and so did Serbia.
And let me tell you one thing, things are just, of course, they are very good, racially speaking, if you want to put it ethnically speaking.
But in terms of tensions, don't rule out, you know, don't be too optimistic because Bosnia and Herzegovina itself is over 2 million.
I'll recap, 2 million Muslims.
These are European Muslims.
These are not Arabs, but those are people who back in the 16th, 15th century had adopted Islam as their religion.
So the whole area, we are talking about the area which you can literally, you know, if you have a bicycle or you can travel in 24 hours, you can cross this whole area from Bosnia and Herzegovina all the way to Zagreb, you know.
And again, Bosnia and Herzegovina is a very, I don't want to say dangerous, but a very fragile hotspot.
Go to Croatia.
You want to go to that part of the world, folks, and you should.
Go to Croatia.
You are going to see beautiful countries, beautiful people.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And Tom will greet you there.
He is there in the heart of it all in Zagreb.
Tom, thank you again for coming on tonight, for lending us your talent and your wisdom and for being with us during this very special time of year on the program every year.
We will be back in touch with you again very soon.
We have to take a break.
It's 2 a.m.
Go get some sleep, my friend, and we'll be in touch.