Nov. 30, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
54:43
20241130_Hour_3
|
Time
Text
You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Test Pool.
The Political Test Pool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
For those of you in our listening audience who shared the faith with us this Christmas season, do yourselves a favor.
And I really love that selection of Good King Wincel's list with the traditional English choir.
Find that and read the lyrics, and you'll have an idea of what this season of hope and goodwill and Christian charity means.
And to help us kick off the Christmas season tonight, I could not be more delighted to have back with us this evening Taylor Young from the Antelope Hill Publishing Editorial Team and Pastor Brett McAtee, who, of course, traditionally gives us a Christmas and Resurrection Day message here on TPC.
But Pastor Brett will be with us to both kick off the Christmas season and wrap it up here on our broadcasting calendar.
Christmas season, of course, kicks off with our first Saturday after Thanksgiving and ends with, of course, New Year's.
Gentlemen, it is great to have you back on.
I will say hello to one of you after the other.
Taylor, hello to you, and Brett, to you as well.
Merry Christmas.
It's good to hear from you again.
It's wonderful to be on here again and really a privilege for us to be able to have this conversation together and for me to be able to have met Pastor Brett through this.
Well, I was going to ask you that.
As a matter of fact, Taylor, perhaps this was something I should have done behind the scenes.
But Brett has been with us for a few years now with these appearances, I should say.
And we'll give you some more information, folks, about his church a little later on in this hour.
But what was it that brought Pastor Brett's ministry to the attention of you and Antelope Hill, Taylor?
Well, so I think you had suggested that we do more collaborations going forward.
I think after the one with David Duke or the one with Sam Dixon, and you gave me a nice list of guests that you've had on, so I did a little research into all of them.
And I did a little research into Pastor Brett and what he's known for, some of the things he's written and said, and I thought that it would be a pretty good match with one of our early books, which I think is what we're going to be focusing on today, Faith and Heritage.
And actually, at the time, I just thought that it kind of lined up.
There were some similar topics, but I talked to Brett before the show, and found out that he's actually already familiar with a lot of that material because it was originally published on a web form called Faith and Heritage.
And we've reprinted, or we've put a selection of their essays into book form.
So it was even more fortuitous than I'd realized because he was already familiar with that material.
Brett, as so many of our regular listeners will know, again, we mentioned the Christmas and Easter messages that you provide for us now for so many years running.
But the first time you ever appeared on this show was actually several years ago, and it was a show during which I was out that particular night, and our friend Winston Smith had brought you on.
He was guest hosting the show for us that night.
And I listened to it.
I remember vividly, Pastor, listening to this on my way home from Florida.
And it was a talk not about necessarily scriptures, but about how our ideas about faith and heritage, well, frankly, were not at all at odds, as so many of some more moderate and less muscular pastors than you might present it to be.
And I was god-smacked.
It was just a wonderful thing.
And I was so thankful for Winston for facilitating the introduction between me and you because it's been a long-standing partnership now.
And you had been familiar with this.
And certainly this book discusses topics that you have been talking about for a long, long time.
So your reaction to this book, and the book is Faith and Heritage, a Christian nationalist anthology.
It's available at antelopehillpublishing.com.
We'll give you some more information about it after we fire these opening volleys.
But Pastor, this was certainly a book, and its contents were not at all at odds, in your opinion, with your message from the pulpit any given Sunday at your very brick and mortar church in Michigan.
No, not at all.
In point of fact, I know several of these chaps and count them as friends, although they're writing under pseudonyms often.
I found it funny.
Either I'd forgotten or I didn't know as I'm rereading this material.
I find myself being quoted twice.
So that proves that I have a connection with this.
I even wrote one or two articles for them early, early on in their existence.
So, yeah, there's a shared affinity.
And I should say at this point that the kind of subject matter that these guys are pursuing, it goes under different titles: ethno-nationalism, racial realism, kinism.
But in all actuality, it should just be called biblical Christianity on touching on social order issues.
It is Christianity.
So again, this brings it back, Taylor, to you.
And I would mention, let me please make mention here that Pastor Brett McAtee is the pastor of Christ the King Reformed Church in Charlotte, Michigan.
Charlotte Reformed.org.
You can find the website, and he has a congregation there.
And you can also tune in online, as I know a lot of our listeners do.
If they can't find a biblically based, scriptural, Christ-centered church in their local area, which sometimes that can be a challenge, they can go there and get the message.
And I would encourage people to do that.
But I would also draw attention to Pastor McAtee's blog, Iron Inc.
This man can write, and he writes in no uncertain terms, and it's regularly updated, and it's all right there for you at charlotte reformed.org.
But be sure to check out the Iron Inc. blog.
He talks about a lot of the issues related not just to faith, but also ethno-nationalism as well.
So, Taylor, after this first segment, I'm going to turn it over to you and Brett, as I like to do when we do these collaborative interviews that you just mentioned.
Turn it over to you and Brett to sort of have a one-on-one without my facilitation.
But I would like to ask you this because it's always interesting to me when I look at the Antelope Hill catalog, and as impressive as it is, what drew you to the content of this anthology, this Faith and Heritage anthology, that led you to want to republish it and distribute it to a wider readership.
Certainly.
So I think, so this is one that we published pretty early on in our history.
I think it was in our first year as a company, or maybe early in the second year.
And I believe it was actually a friend of a company at the time.
I don't even remember who it was anymore, who recommended the site and that we look into it.
So we did.
We were interested in the content, and we actually reached out and requested permission to publish it, and we were given permission to publish it.
And it's not all the essays that are on there, but it's a selection of them, and it's still a pretty hefty book.
It's, I think, around 300, almost 350 pages.
So, I mean, we thought that I think kind of like you mentioned earlier, or maybe it was off the air, but this is a very, very relevant subject matter today,
and especially with the way that political correctness and anti-whiteness and all of the forces that we oppose and that oppose our people has infiltrated the modern church and that it likes to cloak itself using pious sounding words and attempts to approximate Christian theology.
But I think it's just like Brett said earlier, that stuff simply is not Christian.
And the positions given in this book and the arguments for them are simply an attempt to return to proper biblical Christianity.
So long story short, the defense of Western civilization, the defense of white people, especially against those who would try to weaponize the Christian faith against our existence.
That was a big part of what we really appreciated in the essays and what led us to publish them.
So again, folks, antelopehillpublishing.com, you can do a quick search for Faith and Heritage, a Christian nationalist anthology, and you'll find there this book we are talking about.
Pastor, I would ask you before the break, and then again coming back in the next segment, I'm going to turn it over just to you and Taylor to have a one-on-one with one another about some of the aspects of this book.
But you are seeing now, I think I've heard the, well, I hear the music now too, but I've heard the word crazy defined as being right, but too early.
And I think a lot of the things we were right about are beginning to have a day now, and you're seeing more and more pastors come out with this sort of mindset.
And we'll talk about that more and so much more.
But first, we're going to turn the show over to our guests, Taylor Young and Brett McEntee when we come back.
Stay tuned.
My name is John Hill.
I'm a descendant of General A.P. Hill and the founder of the A.P. Hill Legacy Foundation.
In the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, I rented a box truck and set out on a mission to help the victims.
I was in North Carolina for weeks, and I brought out four truckloads of supplies, 60 generators, gave out over $130,000 directly to families who are not getting help from the federal government.
I rented heavy equipment for communities to fix driveways and roads, and I put families up at hotels.
The media has seemed to forget about these people, and they still need our help.
If you would like to donate this Christmas season, my givesend go is givesendgo.com slash GDEPE.
Anything you give is going directly to these people.
Once again, it's givesendgo.com slash GDEPE.
Thank you.
God bless and God save the South.
As you all know, Roe versus Wade has resulted in some of the most permissive abortion laws anywhere in the world.
For example, in the United States, it's one of only seven countries to allow elective late-term abortions along with China, North Korea, and others.
Right now, in a number of states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother's womb in the ninth month.
It is wrong.
It has to change.
Americans are more and more pro-life.
You see that all the time.
In fact, only 12% of Americans support abortion on demand at any time.
Under my administration, we will always defend the very first right in the Declaration of Independence, and that is the right to life.
Hither, plague, and stand by me, if thou lust it tell him, yonder, peasant, who is he, where and what is dwelling?
I have the benefit of being able to read along with these lyrics, but surely your blood will chill to read these lyrics.
This is our faith and heritage.
And what I love about this hour right now is that you have Antelope Hill Publishing, which is pro-white but also pro-Christian.
You have Pastor Brett McAtee, who is pro-Christian, also pro-white.
And you have us who for the last two decades have been pro-white, pro-Christian, and of course pro-Southern as well.
But when you're firing on all cylinders, it just makes for such a cozy feeling.
And this is the way I wanted, I was determined to start the Christmas season off in this way.
And I'm so thankful that Taylor and Brett were available this evening to see it through and to make it happen.
So Taylor, I want to, as I mentioned a moment ago, turn this segment over just to you and Pastor McAtee to take away any aspects or elements of this book that you might want to focus on and just to have a conversation with one another.
I think that will be enlightening for me and everyone else listening.
So Taylor, to you.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
Again, I'm really honored by the opportunity to have this conversation on here on your show.
I guess what I'd like to probably maybe start with, Pastor Brett, is just to, and I know you mentioned already that you're familiar with a lot of this content.
Is there a particular argument that the authors advance or a particular subject that they deal with that you think is really paramount in importance for us today?
Well, there's an abundance of treasure here in this book.
And as it's been already been noted, this is not all that was put on Faith and Heritage.
I think the major thrust, though, is that Ethno-nationalism or kinism or whatever phrase you want to use to describe it is a biblical concept and can be supported as growing out of scripture.
And indeed, I think also the book notes that this mindset has been the church's testimony and witness throughout the centuries.
St. Vincent of Lorenz said that orthodoxy is what all men have confessed in all times and in all places.
And if anything falls underneath that rubric, kinism or ethno-nationalism falls under that rubric.
It's only been since the 1960s, and if it didn't exist before, if it did exist before the 1960s, it was among the heretics, the Anabaptists, for example.
But it's only been since the Civil Rights Revolution, the sexual revolution of the 1960s, that all of a sudden we have this kind of egalitarianism, cultural Marxism begins to flex its muscle, although it starts clear back in the 1930s, late 30s, early 40s.
And what we're seeing now is a return to a biblical Christianity that the fathers in all times and all places everywhere held.
And I think this book begins to tease that out and begins to allow people to say it's okay to have a people, it's okay to love my people, as long as I can do so without hating other people.
And that's what this book puts forth in a lot of different varied ways.
It's what I advocate.
We're not against any particular people.
We don't have to be against them if we're for them.
And I think that this is one of the key things that this book traces out.
Yeah, and I think it's, I agree, it's incredibly important.
And it's really kind of shocking the degree to which is really just anti-white politics has become prevalent in the church today.
And like you identified it, and like the book identifies it, it really comes from cultural Marxism.
But I think that, and this is something that I honestly experienced myself kind of earlier on in my ideological development, and the book also addresses this too in many ways.
That in some cases, there is less of kind of an explicit word one way or the other in scripture about some of these topics.
And our enemies have really exploited that and used that to draw this distinction between racial or ethnic interests and Christian interests and Christian values.
And it can be hard for people to kind of wrap their minds around how these two things are not in contradiction with each other, but actually work together.
Do you have any commentary on that or how would you address that issue?
Or what would you say maybe to people who are kind of stuck in that situation today?
Well, I would point out that, well, first I would point out that it's often the case that heresy has to take place before orthodoxy can be established, as odd as that sounds.
It was true regarding Martian trying to chop up the scripture and instead of insisting, and the response to Martian was seeing that there was orthodoxy, that the scriptures bore one testimony, that there weren't different gods in the Old and New Testament.
Heresy once again poked its head out when it talked about the humanity and deity of Christ.
And then you had the various councils, and they established what orthodoxy was.
And I think it's been the same with this issue of kinism.
It was just something that everybody took for granted.
It wasn't an issue.
And then all of a sudden you had the rise of Marxism and then classical Marxism was followed by cultural Marxism.
And all of a sudden, the heresy was established of egalitarianism.
And the response has been, no, no, no, the scriptures have everywhere taught, and the fathers have everywhere held to this idea of the reality of nations.
And if you want to go to scripture, we haven't got a time to fully develop a biblical theology of kinism or ethno-nationalism.
But if you go to Revelation 21 and Revelation 22, there you find the nations as nations coming into the new Jerusalem.
And there you find the leaves of the trees are for the healing of the nations.
And you simply can't have nations coming into the new Jerusalem in Revelation 21 and Revelation 22 unless the nations exist prior to the eschaton.
And so to me, that's one place that I go to immediately if I need to give a thumbnail sketch to somebody about the reality that nations are something that is biblically supported.
And then supporting it biblically, you can then go to the church fathers, go way back to the early church fathers.
Your book establishes this with a couple of the chapters.
Augustine, Jerome, Helvidius, Peter of Alexandria is quoted in the book.
It's all demonstrating that there was this understanding that race exists, that nations exist, and that they're good and they're positive things.
And it's only the fact that cultural Marxism has flexed its muscle, it's poisoned our minds, we've become saturated in it.
The clergy have become guilty of just following along with the culture and not thinking for themselves.
And so we're still on an uphill climb, even though it seems like at times the tide is turning.
Yeah, definitely.
And that is one of the things that I really like about the book is probably most of the content and most of the arguments are about demonstrating how this view that, again, we can call by different names, ethno-nationalism, kinism, whatever you want to call it, how it is everywhere implicit in scripture.
And in many cases, you actually, you can't really have a proper understanding of scripture or of Christian doctrine without holding to it.
And if you try to hold to it and also hold to scripture, then it just leads to contradictions.
And it really is ever-present.
I think one of the examples given, I think, at least at one point in the book, the Kinnist commentary on the Ten Commandments on Commandment 4 about the Sabbath day and how it's addressed to the head of the household.
And it implies that you can't understand it without taking as part of your understanding of it, the implicit responsibility over his family, over his wife, his children, as male servant, female servant, and then the foreigner in these kind of concentric circles.
So it implies so many things there.
It implies hierarchy.
It disproves egalitarianism.
It implies a difference between the citizen and the non-citizen, the servant or the slave, between the member of the nation and the foreigner.
So that kind of stuff is ever present.
And I think that that's, I found it to be really fascinating.
I found it to be a really powerful tool.
And I would recommend it as a powerful tool for, again, people who either are kind of interested in exploring this for themselves or they want to have arguments to push back against some of this stuff when they hear it in Christianity today.
Yes, the price of the book, the book is worth its price, if only for E. Hood Wood's Ten Commandments on kinism and how the Ten Commandments reflect kinism.
Ehood Wood is a personal friend, a good friend.
The whole book is fabulous.
There's a lot more than that, but that's a fabulous section.
But let's not also miss the idea that Paul in Romans chapter 9, verse 3, talks about his kinsmen after the flesh and how greatly he loves them.
He talks about 1 Timothy 5:8, and these both come out in different places in the book.
1 Timothy 5:8, if any man will not care for his house, if any man does not look out for his own household, especially those of his own household, he is worse than an infidel.
And so, there again, you have an explicit idea of the prioritizing of family.
And let's be frank: family is the micro-unit that comprises nation.
You can't get to a nation without family, and your book brings that out as well.
Let's take a quick pause right there.
I have been leaning back in my chair here in the studio and enjoying this as much as I know all of you are.
This conversation about the book, Faith and Heritage, a Christian Nationalist Anthology, is available for your purchase.
A great stocking stuffer at EdelopehillPublishing.com.
Taylor Young and Brett McAtee, Pastor Brett McAtee, back with you next.
Thank you.
Protecting your liberties.
You're listening to Liberty News Radio.
Hi, Mom.
It's so cold out there.
Surprise, I brought you something.
Socks.
Oh, Heath Holders Original.
Wow.
This is so soft and cozy.
Heath holder socks are the warmest.
I use them for snow sports and around the farm.
I also bought a bunch for my new work site.
The other guys were so jealous, they all bought them.
And the best part is the socks come in three levels of warmth: originals, lights, and ultralights.
Oh, Jill can use the ultralights when dog walking.
Oh, boy.
I know what everyone is getting for gifts this holiday.
Heath holder socks are the warmest.
An independent lab test proved they're seven times warmer than cotton socks.
We use a proprietary three-stage process, advanced insulating yarn, a long-loop thermal pile, and brushed on the inside.
This process helps trap warm air closer to your skin longer, keeping your feet warm, comfortable, and dry.
Making heat holders the softest, warmest, and most comfortable socks guaranteed.
We also have hats, gloves, throws, and so much more.
From now until Cyber Monday, use the code Heat25 to save 25% off your order.
Free shipping for orders over $25.
Go to heatholders.com.
Exit polls in Ireland's general heat election suggest the three biggest parties have won roughly equal shares in the country, headed now for another coalition government.
BBC correspondent Andrew McCafferty.
Shin Fein coming out slightly ahead on 21.1%, followed by Fine Guille on 21%, and then Finafall on 19.5%.
Shin Fein will be encouraged by this poll, but the big challenge for the party is finding that pathway to power, because this exit poll would suggest Fina Fall and Fine Guill are in a strong position to return to the government benches, albeit with the support of two smaller parties.
North Macedonia's Interior Ministry says police have arrested a Macedonian national suspected of intending to join the Russian army and fight in Ukraine.
It's the first such case of a Macedonian national being hit with that charge.
Breaking news and analysis, townhall.com.
Small business owners have had a mostly positive reaction to a judge's decision, striking down an overtime rule.
That rule would have qualified more workers for overtime pay.
On November 15th, a federal judge in Texas blocked a new rule from the Biden administration that would have expanded access to overtime pay to millions more salaried workers across the U.S. Nearly all hourly workers in the U.S. are entitled to overtime pay after 40 hours a week, but many salaried workers are exempt from that requirement unless they earn below a certain level.
John Scott reporting.
California Department of Fish and Wildlife releasing a new plan to protect the state's Joshua trees, which are imperiled by wildfires and sometimes humans who just don't care.
That draft plan includes calls for avoiding or minimizing direct and indirect impacts from overgrazing and pesticide use.
More on the stories townhall.com.
Hello there, everyone.
It's Lacey again with a friendly reminder from James Edwards that TPC's Christmas fundraising drive is now underway and your response would mean so much to us.
20 years ago, this radio program was the first of its kind and paved the way for so many others that would follow.
Today, TPC continues to lead the way in mainstreaming our movement by attractively presenting our message in a way that comes across as well-reasoned, relatable, and trustworthy.
We remain so thankful for the relationship that we share with our incredible audience.
Nothing would be possible without you, and it continues to be an honor to serve you.
As our 20th anniversary year comes to a close in December, we look forward to building on the unprecedented success that we have shared together.
Our Christmas fundraising drive is by far the most important of our quarterly appeals, and we would be thrilled if you could remember TPC during this season of hope and goodwill.
Thank you for your support of this groundbreaking broadcast.
Merry Christmas to you and your family from all of us here at TPC.
God tells us in Hebrews 10, 25 that we should gather together to worship him.
This isn't a request.
It is a command.
Going to church isn't an option.
It is your Christian duty.
With the hellish apostasy of mainstream churches, attending church these days can be difficult.
That is why you're King James Only, traditional services in the ancient Church of St. Mary Magdalene alive online.
And I invite you to gather with our congregation to study God's Holy Word.
Join us every Sunday at the TemplarChurch.com and especially on the first Sunday of the month for Holy Communion.
This do in remembrance of me is also a command that all Christians must obey.
I'm Reverend Jim Dowson, ordained Puritan minister, nationalist, and a veteran pro-life campaigner.
Tune in to my weekly sermons at the TemplarChurch.com.
Based in Ireland, this old-time religion is the faith that built America.
God bless you.
Bring me flesh and bring me wine.
Bring me pine logs hither, Darkly dead hither, Pigeons forget!
So the drinks was the best when the peace of war.
So, of course, in this song, it's telling the tale of this Christian monarch who, with his page, this young boy, going out and battling the elements during the cold winter in Europe to take to one of his subjects some winter fuel, fire logs, and food.
It's a wonderful story, and it's a song that I always love listening to at Christmastime, truly always, but at Christmastime, especially so.
And to be able to share it tonight and this hour on the radio with our friends Taylor Young and Pastor Brett McAtee, of course, antelopehillpublishing.com.
And you just heard, I think in that last break, one of the spots for Reverend Jim Dowson's church over there in England.
And he and Nick Griffin have been working together forever.
And Nick is, you know, maybe like a top-five guy for me.
Very close friend.
Talk to him all the time, his time in the BNP.
And these are the people.
I mean, you know, to get to know these folks, and Dowson played a big role in the BNP as well.
And it's heyday, and he is the pastor of this church there.
You can find their online ministry as well.
You heard in the ad.
And then, of course, Pastor Brett at charlottereform.org.
There are good people out there doing good work, and we love bringing them together.
We are the consummate cheerleader here.
And if there are people out there that are producing good fruit, we want to promote them.
But right now, I mean, we have set a high bar tonight.
High bar.
The first hour with Ron Paul's old campaign manager, Lou Moore.
And then right now with Pastor Brett and Taylor and Christine, a new comer to TPC.
And the second hour, Christine Lynn.
A lot to live up to the rest of December.
We're going to do our best.
Let's go back now to the topic at hand.
And that is, of course, this book that we're promoting tonight, Faith and Heritage, a Christian Nationalist Anthology.
I have one question for both of you gentlemen, and then I'll turn the conversation back to you.
Taylor, you know, not everybody in our pro-white sphere want to tackle matters of faith, but that is something that obviously Analope Hill Publishing as a result of this interview, but also other things as well, seems comfortable in doing.
Why so?
Well, part of the reason is that some of us are Christians ourselves, not all of us.
And at the end of the day, we are a secular company, and we don't, you know, we're not going to necessarily brand ourselves with anyone's respective faith.
But as I said, some of us are Christians.
It's important to us personally.
And also on the level of the company and its mission, it's important because this is undeniably part of the racial and historical heritage of our people, of the European peoples from Europe across the United States and everywhere else where we are found.
So it's absolutely a vital, even from a secular perspective, it's a vital part of our history.
It's a part of our intellectual development, the development of our philosophy and our politics and what has driven our achievements around the world.
So for that reason, it's always something that we're going to want to publish when we find works like this.
Excellent answer.
And of course, this is a Christian program, too.
But of course, we work with everyone, regardless of their faith, or if they have no faith, we are happy to work with anyone on any element of agreement that we can find.
And certainly there are people out there advocating for our people that do not share our faith.
We are happy to work with them, and we're happy to work with Christians.
But it is special when you can find people who are like-minded on checking all the boxes.
And Pastor, I would just ask you this.
What is your response to being ahead of the curve on some of this?
Because I'm seeing some of the tremors out there.
The media is really taking a liking, I guess you could say.
Maybe that's not the right word, but Christian nationalism has been something the media has been very much affixed to in recent years.
And you're seeing more and more people come out with the kind of stuff that you've been saying for a long time.
I mean, there are some SBLC light websites out there that kind of track this and they do the work for me.
And I just go and read their headlines.
But here's some headlines for you.
Doug Wilson, egalitarianism comes from the devil.
Joe Webben, any Christian minister who denies that Haitians have low IQs is disqualified from the ministry.
Wesley Todd, in a Christian nation, there will be no more mosques, no more synagogues.
Joe Webb and again, the civil rights movement destroyed our culture.
They're having a big, big gathering in Dallas in the spring of next year, Pastor, that you may have heard of, that is bringing in people like Eric Kahn and Brian Suave and these people who are really sort of like the vibrant vanguard of the faith.
But they are saying things like this.
The world is ours.
Christians are destined to colonize the stars.
And on and on and on, you find these statements now becoming more and more prevalent with the up-and-coming generation of Christians.
What does that mean to you, Pastor?
Well, obviously, it's enheinging because, you know, it has felt like I've been working in the minds with a handful of others for a very, very long time.
And so where these guys get it right, I'm very encouraged.
I'm encouraged with the trajectory I see them on.
There are some things I say, I see them say, I thought, I think to myself, well, if you would just, you know, get this a little finer and improve this.
But, you know, it's a matter of patience on my part for people to continue to come along.
I had a friend with a conversation with a friend in England a couple of days ago, and he says, hey, he said, the world's moving your way.
He said, you're far less radioactive now than you were eight years ago when I first started talking to you.
So it's good news.
There are still some things that are discouraging.
The Antioch Declaration, for example, put out by Moscow, Idaho is a train wreck, and it touches on these kinds of issues.
So there's still a lot of work to be done, but it's enhartening to see more and more people come along.
And let me just add, if I might, at this point, Christianity is on the cusp with this issue because ultimately what this is aiming at is a denial of the creator-creature distinction.
Either it stems from a denial of the creator-creature distinction, or it's leading to a denial of the creator-creature distinction.
Because when you're in your egalitarianism, cultural Marxism, alienism, when you flatten out all these distinctions, the eventual distinction that is going to be flattened out if it didn't already start from the point of being flattened out is the distinction between God and the creature.
And so when clergy get this wrong, when they get wrong, this issue of distinctions and hierarchy and the fact that God practices segregation all the way through the scriptures, when they get that wrong, they're inching ever more towards completely disemboweling biblical Christianity.
So this is an important issue.
This is an issue where everything can turn on.
And because I'm a post-millennial, I believe that we will win.
And yes, we will settle the stars.
Amen.
Taylor, a response to that.
Yeah, I totally agree.
And there was one of the essays in the book deals with the golden rule and the second greatest commandment that Christ gives, love your neighbor as yourself, or as some people like to put it, do unto others what you would have them do unto you.
And it's one of several examples, one of at least two examples discussed in the book of something that's kind of treated as a Christian doctrine, even though in its most common wording, it doesn't even actually come from scripture.
The other example is love the sin but hate the sinner.
But it reminded me of that chapter.
And let me just pull it up real quick so I remember what I'm talking about here.
But I kind of entirely lost my train of thought while I was bringing that up.
But it's an example of just like Pastor Brett was saying, how what is being attempted here is an attack against Christianity as well.
And you have this attempt to use Christianity to attack our civilization, to attack our race.
And that ultimately strikes at the core of our faith as well at the same time.
So it's absolutely a vital issue for us to tackle.
I hear the music playing, so I'll try to remember what I was going to say when we come back.
Well, you do that, my friend.
And let me tell you, when we do come back, I'll have a couple of quick hits.
And then I would like to give the final segment of our first show since Thanksgiving to kick off the Christmas season.
Again, to you and Brett for that conversation that you had in the last segment to continue.
So stay tuned, folks.
Still a little hot.
Hey, y'all.
Do you enjoy great tasting coffee but are tired of supporting companies that hate you?
If so, let me tell you about Above Time Coffee.
Above Time Coffee is a privately owned and operated small business.
They hand-roast coffee and ship it to customers throughout the United States and abroad.
Above Time Coffee was launched because they saw a need for more pro-white businesses serving our people.
The time has come to take our own side.
And did I mention their coffee tastes great?
It's the best coffee I've ever tasted.
When James brought home a sample from a conference, I was hooked and threw out all the other brands.
I think you will too after you make an order at abovetimecoffee.com.
Living a healthy and active lifestyle is important to us.
And I appreciate the effort Above Time Coffee invests in keeping its products organic.
And there are so many flavors to choose from.
Check it out for yourself by visiting abovetimecoffee.com.
It's the only coffee we drink at the Edwards Home.
Delicious Coffee, a company that serves the interests of our people.
Check out their selection today at abovetimecoffee.com.
Have you ever had great honey?
No, I mean really good, all-natural, raw honey.
Well now you can.
Thanks to localhoneyman.com.
We can ship out our locally made honey all across the U.S.
So don't worry, you won't miss out.
Plus, Local Honeyman has so many different flavors like Utah Wildflower, High Desert Delight, Happy Valley, and Blackberry, just to name a few.
So purchase your delicious raw honey today at localhoneyman.com.
Do you treasure your liberty?
Well, at lovingliberty.net, we most certainly do.
And we want to help protect your liberty too.
Become part of the family.
Everyone knows that the core of any society is the family.
Therefore, the government should foster and protect the integrity of its family.
We the people.
Won't you join us as a Loving Liberty sponsor to help us promote the principles in the 5,000-year leap?
Let's restore the miracle that changed the world at lovingliberty.net.
If you've not yet received the gift of faith, perhaps music like that can stir your spirit.
I appreciate the two decades now that I've worked with all kinds.
And I appreciate pro-whites who are not Christians.
I appreciate Christians who are a little bit wonky about some of the other issues pertaining to identity.
But when you can get people on who are both, it's special.
And that's what we have this hour.
And I am thankful for that.
I am proud of our friends.
I am proud to be able to work with people like Taylor Young at antelopehillpublishing.com and Pastor Brett McAtee, Charlotte Reformed.org.
Speaking of Faith and Heritage, the book we're on to talk about tonight, this compilation, available for you now at antelopehillpublishing.com.
Faith and Heritage, a Christian nationalist anthology.
I actually knew, know the man who put that website together.
And they asked me 10 years ago to write a little bit of an autobiographical entry.
It didn't make this book, but I'll actually email this to you, Taylor and Brett, after the show.
Maybe you'll like it.
But it seems like yesterday, but it's talking about our 10-year anniversary on the radio.
Now it's 20 years and counting.
But the Faith and Heritage team there, when that website was still going, when I was having my conflict with the Southern Baptist Convention, and I was born into the Southern Baptist Church.
It was a wonderful upbringing.
I would not be who I am today without it.
You can't argue with the result.
I loved that little church that my parents took me to every Sunday morning.
The pastor of that church, I actually talked to him on my way home from New Orleans last week.
We talked for about two hours on the way home.
He led me to the Lord.
He introduced me to my wife.
He has been a part of every major milestone in my life.
Every time someone's died, he officiated the funeral.
So much, all of that and more.
Great man.
But they really came down hard on me for some of my beliefs the Southern Baptist Convention did.
And the Faith and Heritage team really did a lot of several entries about that, and I appreciate that.
And of course, regular listeners of this program will know that they told my pastor he should banish me from the church, and he didn't.
And so they said, well, we'll just fellowship your entire congregation, which they did.
And they never backed down.
And so there are good people out there.
There are men of strong spine.
And we've got a couple of them here with us tonight.
And the book, again, is Faith and Heritage, a Christian Nationalist Anthology.
Good men contributed to this compilation.
And you should have it, and it would make for a wonderful stocking stuff for this Christmas season.
Gentlemen, we have about six minutes remaining.
I turn the remainder of the time over to you to continue this conversation that we've been having this evening.
Taylor, you and Brett, take it away.
Oh, thank you.
Well, I just wanted to rescue myself real quick from the last segment.
I was pretty much actually saying exactly what I was thinking of, saying what I wanted to bring out specifically was, again, that the modern understanding or the so-called modern Christian version of the golden rule is essentially indistinguishable from what the Church of Satan teaches.
Do unto others as they do unto you.
So there's clearly, you know, you can't be going right there if that's the case.
And what the essay brings out is that, again, and this is really the parallel that I was meaning to draw with what Pastor Brett was saying.
The modern understanding just dumbs it down and reduces it all down to egalitarianism and to this complete leveling of any distinctions or the creator created distinction or which flows from all the other distinctions that God has put into creation, man and wife, head of the household, children, families, nations, and so on.
And so it destroys the real meaning, which is about justice and about ultimately acknowledging God and God's sovereignty and our place in it.
So it's just wanted to give that example.
And like I said, there's an essay that does a very similar thing with the whole concept of hate the sin, love the sinner.
And it's just like Pastor Brett was saying, these are this cultural Marxism that has infected the church and that has infected modern so-called theology in its attempt to achieve these social and racial and political goals.
What it does at the same time is just fundamentally undermines Christian theology itself and a proper understanding of our relationship to God and as well as an understanding of God's commandments and our duties before God, like you mentioned earlier, Paul's command to take care of your family and again, how that is ever-present and implicit in scripture.
And again, just to go back to one thing I said earlier, that's one thing that is really great in this book is it very, it makes explicit how all these things are often, to our modern eyes at least.
They feel kind of implicit and it can be hard for people sometimes to put a fine point on it, but it makes explicit how all of this is ingrained in God's created order and how it is the only reasonable understanding of his word given to us.
So I'll toss it over to Pastor Brett if you have any reaction to all that.
Pastor Word, the last two minutes is yours.
I think it's a brilliant observation on Taylor's part.
The book does bring out what is implicit and makes it explicit.
And it does so by the drawing out of scripture.
David Carlton's chapter on ethno-nationalism and the Bible does a great job of that.
Neil Desperandem's article, which you just mentioned, dealing with love to sin, love the sinner, hate the sin, and how that is fatuously understood.
Does a great job of that.
Yes, we should say if we lose here, and we aren't, we are going to lose, but if we were to lose, we would lose Christianity.
It would be back to the catacombs.
That's how important this issue is.
And that's how necessary it is to keep coming back to these issues over and over again.
I had somebody get disgruntled with me six, eight months ago and depart the church because they said tinism isn't a salvation issue.
And I said to them, but it is.
I mean, look at all the genealogies that you find in scripture.
Obviously, the scripture thinks that genealogy is important.
Right now, Jesus Christ is at the right hand of the Father, and Jesus Christ is a Hebrew, a lion of the tribe of Judah.
His ethnicity matters.
It doesn't go away even upon the resurrection, just as our gender doesn't go away, even upon the resurrection.
And those who are denying these truths that are articulated in this fabulous book that you should buy and you should read, those who are denying these truths desperately, desperately, desperately need to repent because the whole ball of wax is here.
Just like the whole ball of wax was on the cusp on when it came to the divinity and the deed and humanity of Christ.
You know, if they had gotten that wrong, then everything else would have been wrong.
So we need to get this right.
We need to not be afraid.
There's still a lot of people that want to play on this issue and dance around, try to speak out of both sides of their mouths.
And we just need to embrace the issue of familialism, ocophilia, ethno-nationalism, racial realism, kinism, whatever phrase you want to use.
We need to get back to this because this is the teaching of scripture.
And this is the teaching of the church fathers.
And this is what all people in all times and all places have believed as orthodoxy until the 1960s or so, or unless you were an Anabaptist.
And I don't know how much more clearly I can parse this out and say it.
If we lose to cultural Marxism, if we allow them to reinterpret Christianity, it's all gone.
And there are still many in the conservative churches, so-called, who are trying to make Christianity awoke.
They're trying to read it through the lens of cultural Marxism.
And this shall not stand.
Amen, brother.
Pastor Brett McAtee, charlotte reform.org.
What a great hour.
Can we do we even want to top this?
Is it possible?
We'll do our best.
I mean, Brett will be back with us on December the 21st for his Christmas message.
Taylor will be back with us on December the 28th.
Taylor, I know we have just seconds remaining, but you've got something coming up this Wednesday.
It's Wednesday, White Wednesday.
We're doing a sale.
So check out our social media.
We'll have a discount code and check out our website.
So go to the website, get the book.
If you want to get more, check out the sale this Wednesday.
Antelopehillpublishing.com, charlotte reform.org.
For Lou Moore, Ron Paul's campaign manager, the first hour, Sport TPC's Christmas fundraising drive.
Gentlemen, it could not have been executed better.
Thank you so much for being with us tonight.
We'll talk to you both again in December.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday weekend.
And for everyone else, this is just a preview of what's to come in the month to come, our last month of our 20th anniversary year.