Aug. 24, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, Saturday evening, August the 24th, I'm your host, James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander.
Great to be back in the studio with you tonight.
We were on the road last week in Alabama, broadcasting from a conference that yours truly, along with Sam Dixon, Jared Taylor, Brad Griffin, and others spoke at, was a packed house, standing room only.
Great time with the folks down there.
And if you were there, we enjoyed being there.
We look forward to seeing you again next year.
But we are back now.
The Democratic National Convention is in the rearview mirror, and that's what we're going to be talking about in the second hour tonight.
Keith and I will be reassessing the presidential wake, excuse me, the presidential race in the wake of this week's DNC as we now turn the corner and prepare for the home stretch.
A lot to unpack in the second hour.
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We're going to be having the eighth installment of a 12-part series, TPC at 20, a retrospective, where, of course, once per month during this, our 20th anniversary year, we are revisiting some classic interviews, very memorable interviews, if for no other reason than their novelty.
And we are splicing some clips and offering you fresh reactions and commentary as we revisit some of these interviews that were done years and years and years ago.
We did so far.
We have revisited the interview we did with Drew Lackey, the officer who arrested Rosa Parks.
We did that in January and February.
Anthony Kumia, when he first started breaking bad, Anthony is going to be speaking at the AmREN conference in November.
But right when he was first coming out, we got him on right after his serious XM run ended, and he was becoming who he is at that time.
And I had a good talk with him.
Zelchko Glasnovich, former general in the Croatian War for Independence, also a member of the Croatian parliament in March.
Revisited the interview with sitting U.S. Congressman Walter Jones at the time of its airing in April and May.
Action movie star Sonny Landam.
In June, Donald Trump Jr.
Last month, Hutton Gibson Melsdead.
What a fun interview that was.
And tonight we got a special one.
We're going to revisit in the third hour.
That's all coming up.
That's all coming up.
We're going to have fun tonight as only we can during these trying times.
But first, but first and right now, we're going to go live to David Zuddy, the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
He's kicking this show off tonight to discuss the most recent polling results on canceling cancel culture.
Some good news, I think, David is going to give us.
David, how are you tonight?
And thanks for being with us.
Hey, it's great to be back.
I'm doing excellent.
I am glad to hear it.
We have, I don't know, a little bit of pep in our step tonight.
Maybe we shouldn't, but we do, and we're feeling good about it.
And great to have you back.
This is your fourth appearance this year.
So I think by this point, we probably don't need to ask, but for the benefit of those still getting to know the work of the Homeland Institute, I think right now at the cusp of its one-year anniversary, a one-year-old organization doing very unique work.
Give us a 30-second reminder about the work of the Homeland Institute, particularly as it applies to the polling that you're doing there.
Yeah, so we are a non-profit 501c3, and our goal is to explore the negative effects of diversity and multiculturalism and globalism, and most importantly, how to propose humane and workable solutions.
And polling has become our bread and butter because that was a huge gap that needed to be filled.
We had to rely upon other people's polls and their information.
And if they found interesting or useful information, I don't think they would probably share it with us.
But now we can ask the questions we want when we want to and then share it.
And the SPLC, the Lincoln Project, they would never do this or ask the type of questions I asked.
This is a huge benefit.
And also, it's getting the movement, I hope, legitimacy because it's an alternate institution, but it's doing mainstream things.
And of course, you're taking this data that you're compiling and trying to find applicable ways that we can reach normal, I'd say, the normies out in Main Street, USA, America, the people that we need to come over into our fold, you're finding ways that we can reach them through this polling.
It's we're trying to find out what the public mind actually is and just move beyond anecdotal evidence or gut feeling or people projecting their hopes and dreams and fears upon the people and actually find out what they really do think.
And most importantly, how to change your consciousness.
For example, we can ask questions and some are more some of the other polls we've asked, well, how does this change your mind?
What's your opinion on the statement?
And therefore, we can find out which arguments work the best in changing public consciousness.
And also, it's a very nice way to pressure policymakers because now we have hard data to back up our threats and our claims.
Well, I've always had the question, David: is it a chicken and egg situation?
Do we have polls creating opinions, or do the people have the opinions and they create the poll result?
I suspect that it may be the former somewhat.
So it's good to have a polling branch to our movement now so that we can at least have some input in whatever the true dynamic of polling is, whether it follows opinions or creates opinions.
That's absolutely correct.
I frankly don't trust the establishment pollsters.
They were blindsided in 2016 with Trump's victory.
So something went wrong there.
And two, one of the things that I do at Homeland is that I've released as much of the raw data as possible, the raw results, including the order of the questions asked.
For example, I did a poll on the green card proposal that Trump did about giving green cards out to college graduates like Candy on Halloween, which would be a disaster.
And over the course of a poll, I found that their opinion of that policy dropped by about 10% across all party lines.
But I was awesome about it.
In fact, I even bragged about it.
I exposed these people to a battery of statements, some of which were actually in favor of Trump's proposal, most of which were negative, and that changed it.
So now we know why that came about.
But I still have the data from before they got most of the statements.
So this is a lot more in-depth, a lot more honest, a lot more interesting than these mainstream polls, which, frankly, they're overrated.
I think are kind of just running off the fumes and respectability and brand naming.
They're not really interesting or in-depth.
David, let me ask you this.
Trump's opinions are kind of like the autumn leaves.
They change over time.
I have not heard much talk this go-round about building a wall, but somehow disappeared.
We're supposed to forget that that campaign promise was ever an issue or ever a thing, despite how we could easily fund it using people sending money back to their home countries, just simply by taxing that.
We don't even need to make Mexico pay for it.
We simply have to tax people sending money back to foreign countries.
But yes, I actually had pointed an article I wrote about Trump and his decision-making process.
I think he is translating his business experience to politics where, for whatever reason, he treats his friends and allies and supporters poorly, like they're employees.
Well, he follows a long line of Republicans that have done that before.
But let me ask you this.
What do you think?
You know, what is driving these changes in his opinions?
Are they, for example, his Jewish donors or are they, like you said, organic?
I have, like, women say, I have the right to change my mind and whatnot.
What is going on?
How is he?
Why is he changing these things?
And he apparently expects his support not to be affected in the least by this.
And is that a misassumption on his part?
I think there's a number of factors.
One of the ones, going back to what I was saying before, is that he treats his enemies like rival businessmen who he has to make a deal with.
So he treats them better.
But he has absolutely the Jewish donors, the money talks.
He speaks with Mary M. Adelson, and all of a sudden he's pro-business.
He changes on a whim.
And also, there's something more deeper in his psychology about this where he was always new money.
I think he has a chip on his shoulder where he's never really accepted in the artsy, fartsy, urban liberal establishment of New York.
Who would want to anyway, anyways?
There's ridiculous people and putting on their air.
Heaven forbid.
I know.
But he's always been trying.
He might pretend to be a populist, but I think a part of him wants to desperately be part of the establishment for social acceptance.
I want to be part of the establishment to make policy, savor people, go to Mars, stuff like that.
He wants a little pat on his shoulder and have a little, finally be accepted by people.
Who cares about these dumb people?
But this is all important to him.
don't understand it but that's his psychology i think and that comply with jewish donors and the very countless perspective that he's got a yarmulke in his pocket ready to flip out and put on his head at any time Well, they all do.
Absolutely.
Like Billet, he's aspirationally Jewish, in my opinion.
He really is.
I think he said that even.
Well, no, who was it that said that?
Somebody actually was that exact term.
But at any event, he is.
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
But the point is, though, making things socially acceptable, becoming socially acceptable.
We want our ideas to become socially acceptable, and you can't wish that into existence by having hard data and evidence that you can present to people, that you can present to decision makers and even politicians.
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All right, we started to chase a rabbit there with Trump just a moment ago.
I think the point is this, though, and why I'm so high on the work of the Homeland Institute.
By the way, if you want to re-familiarize yourself with some of the polling that they have been doing over the course of the last year, it's only a year old.
This organization is freshly minted.
Go to the Homeland Institute, excuse me, homelandinstitute.org.
This is for the Homeland Institute.
The URL is simply homelandinstitute.org.
And I think that this work is, listen, you can go and tell anecdotal stories and say, hey, I heard people are thinking like this, and you need to get in and be a part of a rising tide by supporting this issue.
But when you have actual hard polling data, you can get somewhere with it.
And by just being normal and being professional, listen, I rattle off a bunch of folks we've worked with over the years.
In some cases, they become very good friends, and sometimes it's just an interview.
But I had a member of Congress this last week.
I'm not going to say who, but he knows my penchant for oldie's music.
And he had a ticket to go see Tony Orlando.
Then his wife couldn't go and he asked me to come.
So I'm just saying, sometimes people will work with you behind the scenes if you put your best foot forward.
And that's what's going on here with the Homeland Institute.
So that being said, back to David Zuddy, the executive director.
We spent the first segment re-familiarizing you a little bit with the work of the organization and its importance and, of course, its novelty in a good way and doing something groundbreaking for our side, coming up with polls that it can package and present to folks and how we can better present our message to the people and how we can take the findings that they are gathering and take them to decision makers.
Now, David, all that being said, the most recent poll, August 2024, you did a poll on the public's temperature on canceling cancel culture.
And I think you've got some good news for us.
So take it away.
Yes, I do.
So last year, this is a repeat of the first poll that we did last year.
However, we decided to expand it and ask several new questions.
The new questions were very interesting.
So on a podcast on countercurrents, we had Jason Lee Van Dijkhon.
He's a great attorney.
He fights for free speech.
And he had a great idea about a law making it illegal to fire an employee for exercising a constitutionally protected right while off duty.
And so I decided to propose this law to the respondents and see what they think.
And the reason I did that, this happened shortly after the, so we were going to read, we were going to rerun this poll anyways, but it happened right after the Trump assassination.
And there was an incipient right-wing cancel culture where libs with TikTok, they doxxed a Home Depot lady who had wished that Donald Trump had not survived.
Now, Libs of TikTok is Jewish, so take that with a grain of salt.
I'm not sure.
It's a complicated situation there.
But regardless, that put a right-wing cancel culture, it became a hot topic.
And a lot of people are saying, some people online were saying this is being, we shouldn't use other people saying, hey, I for an eye, this is how we treat us.
We have no other choice.
I'm definitely more part of the vengeance crowd on this.
I don't believe we should behave honorably towards people who have no honor.
However, a big question of this of us creating a right-wing cancel culture is for what purpose?
Are we doing this just to venture frustration, for spite?
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but what's our productive end goal?
What's our concrete demand here?
Are we just kind of canceling them to destroy them, to be mean and nasty?
Now they might deserve it.
But what's our concrete goal here?
I think a concrete goal should be a ceasefire.
And I'll explain why a little bit later, but I do believe there should be a ceasefire where we simply agree both on a cultural level and a legal level that you don't fire people for their opinions anymore.
You cannot fire them for exercising their constitutional rights while off duty.
And this is big because the Constitution only really protects you from, first of all, federal tyranny, and then that is extended towards the states via the 14th Amendment.
So really just government abuse of your rights.
The free market is free to do whatever you want, and that's a huge problem.
One of Oswald Spengler's critiques is that there's no constitution which notices money as a political force.
Therefore, they're a pure theory, one and all.
This is the problem.
The government is, if you look at business versus government, we're not in 1789 anymore when the original constitution was enacted.
Business is, it seems just as powerful as government, probably more powerful.
In fact, there's a question whether Jewish, this is all, of course, Jewish power.
So it's a Jewish government, Jewish business.
But of the two, there's at least, it seems to be relative parity here.
So business, employers, those are the ones you have to worry about, not the government.
The government, I don't know, well, today, one of the founders of the Telegram was arrested in France.
So in some countries, they'll definitely arrest you.
They arrested Mackie for making memes about the 2016 election.
But generally speaking, the government isn't the threat here.
It's usually private business.
So we really have to push back on that because that's a threat to our rights, especially doxing.
And the fear of doxing has chilled public participation, especially the employment aspect.
The social aspect, I think people just need to get over.
Using to be tough.
Who cares?
But the economic thing is what they worry about because it's not just them, it's their families.
This question about their future career.
And so this is great because our finding found that there is massive widespread support for this law across party lines where employers cannot fire employees for exercising constitutional rights while off-duty.
This, of course, would include stuff like jury duty, like on a jury voting to exonerate Derek Chauvin.
That's a little tangent here, but it's very high.
So 39.6% said strongly support, 25.1% slightly support.
So that is huge.
That is a total of, I'm doing my math right, two-thirds, 65%, give or take, would support this law.
Only they vastly outnumbered 8.6% who oppose, the 9.7% who oppose.
And if you look at the numbers, it's very consistent across party lines.
If you'd like for everybody, I think everybody's kind of getting tired of cancel culture, maybe even people on the left, where they're worried that the boot might be on the other foot soon, and they might be coming to regret that.
So this is a great concrete goal.
We want this law.
We want it passed.
And after that point, people do need to stand on the right.
This won't just magically solve it.
You have to stand by the law.
For example, California has very, would seem to have very robust protections of employee free speech.
This is from a California Labor Code, section 1101, if I recall, but you have to use a law.
But I think creating a new law where it's black letter law and you frame it in this language, this very defensible language, constitutionally protective right while off-duty.
Everybody could get around that.
And this would be in accordance with previously established case law.
For example, there was another case where they talked about how dominion over property doesn't mean dominion over people.
So this would be great.
This is our goal.
This is our demand when we start doxing leftists is you have to come to the table and give us this.
We're willing to make a deal, as Trump would say, but you have to give us something in return, which means you have to protect, you have to respect our rights if we're to respect your rights.
And two, we've learned to live the cancel culture.
Now, the left has more support, but they're also more fragile emotionally.
We're more fragile as being more on the fringe, but they're more fragile emotionally.
They don't take pressure well.
They'll buckle.
So this is a, I think we have what we need to force a ceasefire.
David, this is Keith.
Let me say this.
Whenever I think about mutuality with the left, I think of Bill Fredo Pareto, the Italian socialist from the 19th century, who said that when I'm weak, I ask you for justice and equality because those are your principles.
When I am in power, I deny those same principles to you because that is my policy.
I really don't know that they're capable of varying from that.
They just have a will to power, as Nietzsche said, and that's going to manifest itself.
They'll tell you anything, but do you feel that there's any type of accommodation you can reach with the left that will make you make them abide by their agreements?
Yes, well, the law can have teeth.
If an employer violates a law, have lots of monetary damages.
This will change the balance of terror.
And two, one of the things that we found later on was whether the balance of terror between, so say someone is doxxed, the business feels that they need to fire them elsewhere.
There'll be terrible repercussions.
Well, here's the thing.
People were not very keen, including leftists, about going along with that.
So I asked if a business fires an employee due to pressure from the left, would you more likely to support them, less likely to support them, or no real effect either way, or not sure.
The same thing for pressure from the right.
And lo and behold, 49.5% said less likely to support them if the firing is due to pressure from the left.
And that was from all respondents.
And these are just, you know, these are white registered voters I polled.
And then for pressure from the right, it was 45.5%.
So we have a little bit of an advantage here.
Now, this is important because we're not getting this by appealing to their morality or their honor or sympathy.
It's brute force.
Yes, we're asking for a law.
But we're going to start doxing your people and firing your people and harassing them if you don't give us this.
So we're not doing this from.
That's very important because if we start doing what Libs at TikTok, Libs of TikTok did, where they got the Home Depot leader, Lady Cashier, fired.
That's what we're aiming for.
We don't need to have parody.
We just need to have substantial parody because they are much weaker than we are.
What Keith said about the will to power, we could learn from the left in that.
Our principle, our only principle, should be there is one question that should decide our position on any issue.
And I've said this many times over the years.
The question is, is it good for our people?
That is our principle.
Bar that from the Jews.
Well, that's fine.
Well, we can learn a lot from them, you know, as far as ethno-politics is concerned and racial identity and all of that.
I'm going to tell you why this interview and this work is so important.
If I haven't touched on it yet, I'm going to drive a fine nail right to the heart of it when we come back.
David Zuddy, the executive director of the Homeland Institute, our guest, we're talking about the recent poll canceling canceled culture and why it's important.
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And then in the third hour, we're going to be returning to our 12-part series, part 8 of 12 tonight for the eighth month of the year with our TPC at 20 in retrospective.
A lot of good stuff still coming up, but a lot of good stuff still coming up this hour as we continue with our friend David Zuddy.
He's an attorney in California.
He has a BA in political science from the University of California, San Diego, and a J.D. from Chapman University's Dale E. Fowler School of Law.
Before studying law, David served six years in the U.S. Air Force as an airborne Linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant.
He has been involved in our movement for a long time, was an activist and a chapter leader with the erstwhile identity Europa.
So all great credentials there from David Zuddy.
And I am telling you, folks, you say, hey, you take stuff like this to policymakers and decision makers, and you're just going to get shown the door.
That is not true.
It is true.
overwhelmingly so, but it is not true in all cases.
I think TPC, over the 20 years we've been on the air, have proven that you can have breakthroughs with people who are entertainers, people who are celebrities, people who have bigger microphones than we do, people who are former and even current elected officials, especially elected officials, sitting elected officials in Europe, we have great ties with them.
Some here in the United States as well, a lot of former elected officials, and these people all still have ties.
So yes, if you can't present the message well, if you can package it and you come across as normal, and listen, David is a guy who's a sharp-looking guy.
You take David into the halls of Congress with some of these findings, and I think you're never going to get the majority, but you don't need it.
You've never needed the majority to start turning the rudder.
You need a tireless and unapologetic minority.
And I think you can get that.
I mean, even Pat Buchanan, you say, well, what did Pat have to lose?
When he defended his appearances on these shows.
Well, I think, I don't know if it was after his third or fourth appearance.
They went after him.
He still had a million-dollar, you know, a seven-figure deal with MSNBC that was on the line, and they eventually got it.
But he went on National Public Radio and defended his appearances on this program.
Same for Hutton Gibson, who had his son to think about.
But he said, hey, this is my home away from home talking about this show.
You can find people and you can break through.
Now, let me cut through to the Cliff's notes of this poll we're talking about with David Zuddy, canceling cancel culture.
Not that anyone's ever read Cliff's notes, and I'll never admit to reading the Cliff's notes to Old Man in the Sea in eighth grade.
Mrs. Kraft, I'll never admit to that.
But here's some takeaways.
Let's go to the conclusion of this because, David, I think this is where it really gets interesting and where you could take numbers like this and start to siphon off a little bit of that monolith in Congress.
Here you go.
Almost two-thirds of respondents at 64.7% would support a law making it illegal for an employer to fire an employee for exercising a constitutionally protected right while off duty.
Another takeaway, another point in this conclusion.
Almost half of the white voters, 49.5%, are less likely to support a business if it fires an employee due to pressure from the left.
Among Republican respondents, a charge of woke was almost twice as damaging as a charge of racism regarding whether they should support a politician.
That is huge.
If you get called a racist, it might actually help your chances of winning an election now, according to the Republican respondents that you polled.
A charge of woke was twice as damaging.
And then finally, last year's poll, this is a follow-up to a poll you did last year, both strongly suggest that Republicans pandering to minorities will backfire as it risks voters perceiving them as woke.
Such voters may choose to punish the GOP by staying home like they did in 2022 in contrast to the mass mobilization in 2016.
David, that's a lot to unpack.
It's all there at homelandinstitute.org.
I think I'm talking too much this segment, but I wanted to unpack all of that because that's stuff that will get a politician's ear.
Do you think, David?
Absolutely.
And Arbor want these polls and the articles to wind up on a congressman's desk.
I don't need to be.
I'm not interested in chasing cloud.
I'm interested in making policy.
So, if someone else were to pass this off to a congressman and say, well, I don't know if I fully agree with these people, and they're a little radical, but they have hard data.
And of course, you know, performatively disavow me, even though they think it's awesome, and just flip it to a congressman.
That would be what I really want.
I'm not interested in being an e-celeb or e-drama.
I'm interested in making policy.
So, yes, if someone needs to disavow me, do it and then just slip this to a congressman.
And two, I think we're going to have a lot of rogue elites, more and more, who are going to escape the establishment plantation.
Trump could have been one, but then he went back to just being part of the establishment.
But Elon Musk is very, very promising.
I'm actually reading a book about him right now, which I'll write an article on for countercurrents.
It's kind of a big book, so this will take a while.
But based on what I've seen in that book and I'm seeing about him recently, I think he could get pretty wild to not sure if he'll ever fully agree with us, but I think he could become very friendly or adjacent.
He did comment just a few minutes ago about the issue of one of the founders of Telegram being Joanna France on silly charges, which basically come down to that you didn't censor our enemies, so we're not mad at you.
That's going to radicalize a lot of people.
They see the rainbow curtain is falling.
It's like the iron curtain, but faking stupid.
It's falling across the West.
They see where we're going.
It's pastel Soviet Union.
And so I think a lot of these rogue elites will become radicalized and want to work with us.
Then we can show them, hey, we have an alternate institution doing mainstream things.
They can perform.
We can be respectable.
And we have data to back our positions up.
And this is very big, especially the whole importance about a charge of woke being more dangerous than a charge of racism.
The GOP convention this year was a disaster.
You had some nasty woman with a face tattoo who I won't go into her previous activities and all this multiculturalism.
And it just was off tone.
It was in 2016.
It was actually very woke because it pandered to everyone except for white people.
That's what wokeness rate is.
It's let's pander to every single victim group, every minority group, but not the base, not the people who, the so-called silent majority of white people who make the country work or vote Republican.
And that's simply unacceptable.
We deserve our place at the table.
If we don't get it, we will flip the table over.
Well, there are so many people, though, David, that think they're being high-minded by saying that we don't want to persecute our enemies the way they've persecuted us.
I think that the founding fathers would be absolutely dumbfounded if they looked at today's America because you can read them provisions of the Constitution that obviously support our position and it just doesn't register.
I don't know if they're too dumb or just too doctrinaire to agree to things like this.
And, you know, you live in California and we live in red state America.
What's it like living in California?
What is the zeitgeist of South Carolina of South California now?
We cannot afford housing or to put Lee burritos.
That is the zeitgeist.
People are fleeing.
It's the golden state.
Well, people, it's not for golden anymore.
It's just like kind of brown.
Everyone wants to out.
I had a lot of friends who moved out of state, actually, and we're still good friends, but they've left.
And it just isn't the same state I grew up in.
It's a whole different country, basically.
And it's horrible.
And I was radicalized by being living in ground zero of the great replacement.
California is 10 years ahead of the rest of the country, and that is terrifying.
I got to see where this is going.
This is why California has so many good, has produced so many good people in the movement, like Nathan D'Amigo, my friend Ryan Sanchez of the Nationalist Network.
We had one of the most robust identity Europa chapters because we saw the future.
And we were terrified by it.
We were trying to warn people, like, this is coming to you, too.
See, that's how people like you are moving, but they're being replaced by people from the third world that'll do anything for a burrito.
So, you know, California will continue to keep its 54 electoral votes.
It will continue to have far-left policies as long as they give away the free burritos.
I just, you know, that is, you know, I think it was Barito Brecken said back in the late 40s: if you don't like the election results, replace the electorate.
And that's apparently what is happening in California today.
Am I right or wrong?
Absolutely.
And we tried to stop it with Prop 182, but it's struck down by a Jewish judge.
And that was really the death of the country and the death of California.
California used to be a red state, just like Texas is currently a red state, but then furthermore, today, the interior, the non-coastal counties, are at least the last electoral map I saw red counties.
It's just that they don't have the money or the influence and the wealth that the coastal counties have.
Well, I mean, you know, it's like that in Oregon.
All the counties in Oregon outside of the Columbia River Valley are red, but Portland and Salem and Eugene could sink the whole state.
It just takes a couple of cities to sink a state.
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One more segment with David Zutty, our featured guest of the evening.
Then we're going to get into the Democratic National Convention and everything about it.
Everything about, I mean, we've been talking about it since Biden dropped out of the race, this bloodless coup, a woman who finished dead last in the primaries of 2020, didn't receive a single vote for president ever.
And now she's the nominee.
We'll revisit all of that, but we're really going to focus on what happened over the course of the last week.
We've done a whole hour on Tim Waltz in the last couple of weeks, but we'll touch on him again as well.
And then that's coming up.
But listen, David, the thing is about Trump, this thing about the lackluster Republican National Convention.
Will it be the Trump of 2016 or the Trump of 2020?
Here's what he has to do to win.
Even after all of this upheaval, even after the installation of Kamala and this media-manufactured enthusiasm and the whole hysteria surrounding her and the madness of these crowds, Trump needs to do one thing to win this race.
If you want him to win, if anybody out there is voting for, I voted for Trump the first two times.
I'll vote for him again.
We'll talk about that next hour.
But if you want Trump to win, this is what he needs to do.
All it takes at any appearance between now and Election Day is to say this.
Say what he always says.
I'm for this is what I'm going to do for the Jews.
This is what I'm going to do for the blacks.
You know, he's going to say that.
If he just works in and white Americans, I'm going to fight for you too.
We need a platinum plan for the white working class or else we need that.
Plus, he needs to go back to the tri-and-truth formula that got him elected in 2016, which is build the wall.
Well, all he has to say, one sentence just mentioning white Americans, especially working class Americans, the white Americans without a college degree.
He ups his percentage there just a little bit and it's all over.
Go hiding where the ducks are.
That's what Pat Buchanan said, and that's where the ducks are, the white working class.
Hopefully, for your future, polls like this will help influence.
No, I was just saying, hopefully polls like this will influence that going forward.
Go ahead, David.
My apologies.
Yeah.
We're about 70% of the electorate and 70% of the buying power in America right now.
So we are the biggest voting block, and they absolutely should pander to us just like the pander to everybody else, like blacks, Jews.
You know, when they're pandering the Jews, it's not for the votes, it's for the money because they're only about 2% of the population.
But we absolutely can take it and tank it.
And that's why I support the GRIPE Award.
We have to, for Trump's own good, we have to apply pressure and essentially hold an intervention for him.
Oh, I see.
I know exactly what you're talking about with this.
Yes, the commentary out there with people coming out against Trump.
And so you think that's a tactical and a strategic move.
Yes, because he responds vote of pressure.
For whatever reason, he treats his enemies well.
Like, for example, he's now, despite RFK running against him, they're now friends.
They're all buddy-buddy.
Kyle Rinenhaus said that he was going to vote for Ron Paul, but then there was some type of deal made and now he's back on the Trump train.
Everything is forgiven.
So whatever reason Trump does respond to pressure, Aaron, you have to pressure him.
And I think this is for his own good, because if he has people like Susie Wiles, who's this is the quote that just amazes me.
She said something along the lines that for every Karen that we lose, we'll get a Jamal and an Erique.
And I'm just thinking for using it against us.
That's the whole problem with this thing seems to be that we have to speak up.
We have to speak up like the blacks do, like the Hispanics do, like the gays do and whatnot, or else we never present any pressure on him.
And if we don't, then we'll never get any concessions.
Well, of course, there is a difference.
I want Trump to win.
Yes.
It's like how you want someone who's addicted to drugs to get off drugs and get clean.
You have to somehow discipline them.
You might have to make them homeless and kick them out.
You have to be tough.
Interventions are tough and aggressive.
Well, I want Trump to win.
Well, I have to be, we might have to play hardball with him too for his own good.
Exactly.
Listen, you are on to something, my friend.
You're absolutely onto something.
Of course, there is a little bit difference with what Keith was saying.
Of course, all of the other racial advocacy groups are not only allowed to exist, but they are encouraged to exist.
They don't really have to put pressure on him.
He stumbles all over.
That's all I'm trying to say.
We don't have the opportunity to exist.
But I'll tell you this: when you have an organization like the Homeland Institute that is doing things the right way, that is a start.
And I do think that people can be won over.
Now, we've talked about this this hour.
So, yes, if Trump just gives one sentence between now and Election Day that winks an eye, and he did a lot of dog whistling in 2016, like his son coming, you know, his son soliciting or the Trump campaign soliciting an appearance for his son on this show.
And then they immediately denounced the appearance.
But, you know, the whole rest of the year, the media was debating whether or not he came on.
I dare say he got more votes out of his appearance on this show than he did from attending the NAACP convention or the National Association of Black Journalists.
Well, the whole thing, you can still go to Donald Trump's Wikipedia entry today, and it questions whether or not he really believes in the great replacement or he just pretended to on this show for the political gain.
That is in his official Wikipedia entry.
Is that the same Wikipedia page that has the horns growing out of your head?
I'm just saying, so if he would go back, I mean, but Trump did a lot of that in 2016, acting like he didn't know who David Duke was and all this stuff.
And he has become more establishment, as David is saying.
He is the Republican establishment now.
There's no doubt about that, but he's playing it a little bit too safe.
And he just betrays his base.
He's got to be able to embrace the establishment without betraying his base.
That's the main thing.
Go ahead.
He has to go off script on immigration.
It literally saved his life.
If he does it, again, he'll save his campaign.
And two, the establishment, they have to understand they have to deal with us.
I think there is a rise of single-issue voters on immigration.
And this is a question for the poll, which I'm currently conducting.
Where I asked, I have a bunch of questions, but I'll give you a sneak peek at two.
One, are you a single-issue voter on immigration?
Another question, ask their opinion on the statement, demographics is destiny.
And here's the thing: they have to deal with single-issue voters on pro-life, on abortion, gun rights, gun grabbers, everything.
There's all these single-issue voters.
We are a new voting block of single-issue immigration voters.
They have to deal with us and calculate us, and just like everybody else, and we're totally legitimate, and we cannot be disregarded or deprecated anymore.
David, let me ask you one last question, Apollon.
Let me ask you one more question as we're running out of time.
And as we run out of time this hour, I want to remind everyone to check out homelandinstitute.org.
Take a look at how these findings are packaged, too, by the way.
It's not just the meat and potatoes numbers, although those statistics are there.
You get a breakdown.
It's all well formatted.
It's ready to be emailed to your congressman.
So take a look.
But David, you're not just polling the counter currents mailing list on this.
You are, how are you coming into contact with your respondents?
Correct.
So it's an online polling system that I use.
And this is the general population.
It's white registered voters.
I want to poll people of other races too, but that's proven difficult because you have to balance their different characteristics.
They have the white voter electorate down, and they're the most important one because they're 70%.
And we control for education level, age, party affiliation, ideology, BLM support, and make it look like the electorate, like the actual electorate.
And therefore, we can't extrapolate from that to the electorate.
So I'll make sure, we're very certain here that the Homeland polls and the internal countercurrent polls are two completely separate things.
This is a professionally done scientific poll of the general population of people who resemble the white electorate for these different characteristics as opposed to the internal countercurrents poll, which is simply very different people.
So you're polling the general electorate.
You're not just polling those amongst the faithful.
You are polling there.
They have no idea who I am.
It's an anonymous poll and they don't know who I am.
And I actually write the questions to be as neutral as possible and maybe even hint that maybe I'm a liberal.
I've used words before like undocumented immigrant because that's what a mainstream polling firm would use.
So I ask alternate questions for an alternate purpose, but I do it in a very mainstream fashion.
So these are people who are part of a, I'm not going to say which one, but it's an online polling thing that people can sign up for and do work on.
And they're polled by a bunch of people for research.
And I simply am an alternate institution, but I act mainstream and they don't know who it is.
And this creates a good result.
And I've also been advised by people, certain insiders in the industry.
It's hard data.
It's hard science.
It's being done the right way.
You are not seeking confirmation bias.
You're not asking questions that will get answers we like.
Because I look at some of these polls and I'm like, man, this isn't as good as I wanted it to be.
And I look at some polls, like this one that found that amongst Republicans, a charge of woke is twice as damaging as a charge of racism regarding whether they would support a politician.
And I'm like, wow, I'm glad to know that I'm not just saying that this is something that's going to be driving it because there are an awful lot of executives getting fired for being too woke.
But then the more things change, the more they start saying they get another woke guy in jar.
He's not polling Fortune 500 companies.
He's polling the white electorate.
So anyway, but this is it.
I will tell you this.
When we break through, when we break through, there'll be programs like this and institutions like the Homeland Institute that will be responsible for it.
And of course, all of the other folks we work with and promote and support on this program.
There is a growing movement out there.
HomelandInstitute.org is an important part of it.
David, thank you so much for being on with us tonight.
It's always so good to talk to you.
And we will talk to you again soon, I am sure.
But until then, folks, stay tuned for the second hour all about what we saw, what we suffered through at Chicago this week.
And then in the third hour, we will revisit TPC at 20, a retrospective, part eight of our 12-part series.