July 20, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think, again, if you're going to cover this, and if entities on behalf of our cause are going to cover this, let's get real.
A lot of theories out there, a lot of people saying things.
Let's get informed opinions.
Let's get opinions from people who are not just commentators, not people with a blog.
Opinions are like a certain part of the anatomy.
Everybody has one, but we want some informed opinions.
You know, everybody's got a blog.
Everybody's a podcaster now, and that makes everybody an expert, right?
Well, not here.
Here at TPC, we try to do things the right way, and we try to give you the guests that are perfect for any given situation.
Who better to give an opinion on what happened last week than a former Secret Service agent?
I thought Gary Burnt was fantastic.
My official position is I have no official position.
I think I could go either way on this.
Paul Kreck Roberts, a former member of the Reagan administration, takes a different path than our friend Gary, who I met first in 2016 in Cleveland at the Republican National Center.
Now we have another expert lined up.
Well, we do.
Patrick Martin is a former Marine, a trained Marine and a government contractor who has visited over 70 different countries on behalf of Uncle Sam.
And, well, he's got a lot to say about this, too.
And he was actually, I should tell you, he was actually the first person I booked for tonight's program.
So he wrote an article about this at identitydixie.com, which he's going to walk us through, and then we'll see where it goes from there.
Patrick, welcome back tonight.
How are you?
Hey, gentlemen, it's great to be back.
Keith, it's good to hear your voice.
How are you doing tonight, James?
Good?
Hey, we're both doing good because you're here.
Now, of course, regular TPC listeners will know and love you for putting together that fantastic book last year that we all know.
By the way, Identity Dixie is on our daily reads, and if you're not checking it out now, you need to correct that situation from here on.
Absolutely.
No doubt about it.
But Patrick was also the driving force behind that compilation effort, The Honorable Calls of Free South.
12 authors, 12 essays.
I had the honor of participating in that.
It came out last year, and that was a fun time and really made an impact.
But yeah, Patrick's all over the place.
Former Marine, former government contractor, Southern nationalist, and regular guest here at TPC.
So we can cover this issue from many angles with you, Patrick, but it is great to have you back tonight.
So you heard Gary Byrne, the former Secret Service agent.
He's a good guy.
I think he is a straight shooter, and I like him.
And he wrote a book about his experience as a Secret Service agent under Bill Clinton on protective detail with Clinton.
It is a book people need to read.
And as we say here in the South, he'll call a spade a dirty shovel.
So that's why we've got him on tonight.
But you listened to him in the first hour.
And, well, I would first ask you to respond to that with your credentials that are equally important.
Yeah, so I would say, I trust that what Gary is saying is an honest opinion from his heart.
I don't think he's lying or fibbing in any way from his perspective.
I just think it's inaccurate.
I'm sure that the Secret Service is understaffed, and I'm sure there's a great deal of incompetence, especially in the DEI era.
That does not surprise me at all.
But, you know, in my previous capacity, both in working for the government at one time in an obscure agency that I worked for for years.
And then when I was on the contracting side, we had quite a bit of high dignitary visits, especially including presidents and presidential candidates that would visit us in Afghanistan and Iraq, including that time candidate Obama in 2008, who came and visited Afghanistan.
And I had been part of a program with both Bushes, W and H, while W was the president.
So I'm pretty familiar with, again, I'm not a secret, not a former Secret Service agent, but I have coordinated with Secret Service agents before in the past.
I've been part of those coordinations, especially because I was in a senior position in general.
And they're very professional.
I give them kudos in every which way.
I do think there's a difference, first of all, I think there's a very big difference between the Secret Service of 2024 and the Secret Service of, say, 2004.
I'm sure there's a huge difference, especially with the quality of individuals that have been placed in positions of authority.
Number one, number two, it's very clear that the government has, there are certain segments of the government that at one time were considered somewhat sacrosanct, that you wouldn't touch them.
They wouldn't be considered political animals.
The Secret Service would be one of them.
There was a time when the FBI was considered to be a neutral party.
We know what happened in 2016 with the FBI when it manipulated the FISA court.
It brought a number of, clearly, they went after the Trump candidacy throughout 2016, and then throughout 2017, continuing to peddle this Russia, this false Russian narrative.
So you have these, this, again, at one time, what had been considered agencies that were sort of out of the political spectrum, politically neutral parties.
And I just don't think that's the case anymore.
And to put this in perspective, my former boss, Eric Prince, who was Blackwater, provided security to the Trump transition team in 2016, going into 2017, because Trump himself did not trust the Secret Service, nor did Eric Prince, by the way, at the time.
Can I say something just very quickly?
Yes, sir.
Pardon this interruption, Patrick.
This is almost tangential, but Eric Prince actually came out.
I don't want to use that in an improper context, but it came out this week as saying that he was the chairman for Pat Buchanan's, a district chairman for Pat Buchanan's 1992 campaign.
So, you know, the more you know, he gets more interesting.
Eric Prince, by the day.
Doesn't surprise me at all.
He was kind of a populist Catholic when he was in charge, sort of kind of an interesting libertarian populism blend, if so, back when I met him.
Pat Buchanan.
Yeah, I mean, very much so.
You see what those are there?
I think this was an inside job.
I think the attack on Trump was an inside job.
I do.
I think it's an inside job.
I think, you know, I think what you have here is a situation in which you have a roof that's clearly available.
Now, the Secret Service, and I was part of what was called the National Response Program and the NIMS, the National Institute Management System, back in the early 2000s, and this was being constructed for DHS and other agencies as well.
And as part of that, one of the things to note is you have coordination is often done at a local level and a state level.
So you do have Secret Service agents that may be overtasked.
There's no question that that's the case, but they lean heavily on deputies.
They lean heavily on sheriff's departments, local police, et cetera, to fill in the gap.
And this was a roof that was very clearly would have been within any kind of purview of the Secret Service and other agencies as well coordinating.
There's no way.
The best part is the best snipers purge.
In the whole area.
And again, you're not talking about inner-city Manhattan where there's dozens of skyscrapers and thousands of windows around area you're trying to secure.
You're talking about a wide open field in rural Pennsylvania.
There's five or six structures in the whole bird's eye view.
And this is an obvious one with an unimpeded direct sight line.
Listen, I'm not discounting what Gary Burns said.
I think what he said was compelling, but it still doesn't.
All right.
It still doesn't answer the question how this kid was able to just sachet in with the rifle climb up, being monitored for over an hour.
Nobody takes him out.
Nobody checks him out.
It just, it doesn't make sense.
But what also doesn't make sense is, okay, how did that happen, Patrick?
I mean, is this a guy that was groomed, trained?
Do they just allow it to happen?
How could he have gotten that lucky?
You know, yeah, I think it's interesting.
Well, first of all, there's no way you get that close without somebody being, somebody from the inside saying, hey, ignore this perch.
Any kind of, whether it was at the deputy level, the sheriff's department level, or the state level, or the secret service level, there's just simply no way in which a perch that close to the president, the former president, would be let go.
It just wouldn't happen.
Not without somebody saying, now, there's two ways in which that can happen.
One could be where they just simply said, hey, leave that alone.
Unlikely.
More likely would be saying to other agencies, hey, we're going to have somebody up on that roof, so don't worry about it, and then not putting somebody there.
And I think that's probably more likely what occurred.
So that's number one.
Number two.
But that means that somebody knew that he was coming.
Somebody knew he was coming then and cleared the way.
How would they have convinced him to do this?
I mean, this is all hypothetical and theoretical now.
I understand.
Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt that.
There was a great, so ABC News was, and I was watching ABC News, and this is all transpiring a day after.
And one of the local reporters said that he had, he was a registered Republican, the shooter Crooks.
And then later on, he wound up being, he joined a local anti-racist gun club.
So there's some inconsistency there.
Right.
Well, the anti-racist, there's only one anti-so-called anti-racist gun club that I'm aware of, and that would be the John Brown gun, which are Antifa.
So that's the only ones that I would know that would fit that bill.
Now, they stopped reporting that it was an anti-racist gun club.
They just kept saying it was a gun club, a local gun club.
The boy was wearing a mask.
He's a very small, minimal social media imprint that we're aware of.
Apparently, he was in a Discord chat that was closed Discord chat.
So these kinds of communications back and forth, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody was grooming him to take the shot.
All right.
And this could be epic, but we can talk more about that.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
Don't go anywhere.
Patrick Martin, our guest, more on this as we continued live tonight.
Patrick Martin, Gary Byrne, former Secret Service agent, we're talking about it.
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So again, folks, welcome back to the show tonight.
I understand everyone with access to the internet is an expert on what happened.
If you can post it, if you can live stream it, you've got all the facts.
I don't pretend to be that way.
I don't.
But what I can do here is give you people who do have an informed opinion.
That's one of the things that TPC has always been able to do.
As an AM talk radio outlet, we have been able to attract guests that a lot of folks on our sphere just haven't been able to do.
And tonight, there were three people that I wanted to have on.
One was Gary Byrne, one was Patrick Martin, and the other was Jim Lancia.
We'll try to get Jim next week.
But Jim Lancia, former police officer in a tactical unit, he would have been the other side of Gary Byrne.
Okay, so you've got Gary Byrne in the first hour, former Secret Service agent.
Excuse me, Jim Lancia is a former beat cop who was part of a tactical unit.
So he would have been on the other side of this, and it would have been great to have them both on in the same show.
We'll try to get Jim next week.
But Padrick was the first person we booked for tonight.
His background as a government contractor, his background with Marine training.
And obviously, he's established his credentials in the first segment.
I just quickly want to read now, again, not going to obscure sources, but this again is Paul Craig Roberts, Padrick, the former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan.
Now, does he know what it's like to be in law enforcement?
No, but you know he's not a kook.
And this is what he writes.
The security lapses are so large that they naturally lead to what are called conspiracy theories.
Without honest and intelligent investigative reporters supported by news organizations, the general public cannot tell when information is a conspiracy theory and when the charge that is a conspiracy theory is used to suppress factual information that doesn't fit the official narrative.
If an honest investigation is made and it clears all parties, we will be relieved and thankful.
And we will know that DEI is probably not a good hiring practice for the Secret Service.
But, Paul Craig Roberts continues, a happy conclusion might be difficult to arrive on this one.
Here is the FBI's timeline of the near assassination.
No American has any confidence in the FBI after the agency's relentless determination to destroy Trump and his supporters topped off by the FBI creating a watch list of parents who object at school board meetings about their children being taught that white people are racist and kids can be born in the wrong body.
Notice that even the Trump-heading FBI's timeline shows that Crooks was seen with a rangefinder 42 minutes prior to the near assassination and no action was taken.
The purpose of a rangefinder is to set the rifle scope to the precise range of a shot.
Notice that Crooks was spotted on the roof with rifle, observing the speaker stand for 20 minutes before he fired and nothing was done.
Crooks was then allowed to fire and only after he fired was he eliminated.
This looks more and more like intent than incompetence.
This is Paul Craig Roberts writing.
Padrick, so Paul Craig Roberts taking issue with our first hour guest.
Patrick, your take and then we'll go to Keith.
Yeah, I think there's a lot.
I mean, obviously, you can see that there's the inconsistencies in general of how this would have played out.
Let's get, we're talking about a situation in which you've got a very clear view of the president.
And again, being part of these diplomatic missions and so forth, where I have been part of the security detail or part of the larger framework around those security details and working in coordination with them, these are not sort of willy-nilly type.
You know, nobody just shows up.
First of all, the one thing to point out is we're talking about an ex-urban rural environment.
So that area there is easy to scope out, as you pointed out.
This is not New York City.
B, mapping out and scoping out that whole area is kind of easy to secure.
I mean, you're talking about this building right here has a clear bead on the former president of the United States.
It's less than 150 meters away.
And that is an area that needs to be secured, period.
So when you have these failures, especially after you have, no, and I think this is where it really gets.
If this was, say, Obama or, say, Bush, we can maybe chalk it up to incompetence.
But this is a guy, Trump, who the entirety of the government has tried to destroy for the past, really since 2015.
We're talking almost a nine-year war against one man and against his followers.
People have been predicting his assassination for a long time.
You know, this is it's not like John F. Kennedy.
Nobody dreamt that he was going to be shot and killed.
But, you know, people have been talking about this and predicting it for over a year.
Even Trump has made occasionally alluded to the possibility to try to hit him.
Again, you're talking about it.
And first of all, the FBI that, again, exploited the FISA courts, exploited the Russia collusion, exploited local media to try to promote the idea that Trump was some FBI now that did all this.
It's now the ones that are in charge of this investigation over a young man who, again, has no social media imprint that we're aware of.
Apparently, was wearing a mask after COVID.
There's some rumors out there that he may be, I don't know if they're true or not, that he may have been flirting with transgenderism.
So there's some issues that this clearly this young man had in general, some biases that are there.
But, you know, again, it seems interesting to me that these Discord chat rooms are where these shooters tend to come out of the woodwork.
There was a white, supposedly white nationalist who did a shooting in Buffalo, New York, a couple years back.
No other social media footprint except Discord.
Now he's got this Discord chat here.
So it's this constant closed environment, closed communications environment, where it would be very easy to have these conversations and nobody's going to find out.
Weirdly enough, I mean, they keep Gab off of Any kind of phones or any kind of apps, but they don't keep Discord off.
And Discord seems to be the, you know, ground zero essentially for every one of these kinds of shooters.
So, or these shooting events.
So, I mean, there's just too many can't be chalked up.
This really cannot be chalked up to just an overstrained agency or just basic incompetence.
Basic incompetence is the deputy fell off the roof.
I think Keith was talking about making Barney Fife look like Rambo in the previous segment.
It's true.
The guy gets pointed at him and he tumbles off the back.
It was just ridiculous.
But I mean, think about this too.
From a communications perspective, now you've got 30 people or so that are saying, or something like that, 30 to 50 people were pointing at this guy, saying there's somebody on the roof, somebody on the roof.
Now, in a typical security environment, what will happen is somebody will call that in.
And they've been telling, they were telling local deputies, local deputies say, hey, there's somebody on the roof.
That person on the roof would that social, the Secret Service would have gotten that communication.
Now, at that point, they would have said, that's one of our guys.
You're good.
Or it's one of the state troopers.
There's somebody.
One of our people are there.
And that's very common to have civilians point out law enforcement officers in areas where they are purposely placed to present a security posture.
So they may not, the civilians may not be aware of the fact that somebody's supposed to be on that roof, but the Secret Service is aware.
And so the Secret Service would have called down that deputy's calling, if that makes sense.
So they would have said, hey, it's okay.
That's one of our guys.
You're good.
You don't have to respond.
Now, for whatever reason, it took 30 minutes before one of the local deputies decided to investigate what was actually happening on that roof just to see.
And it turns out it was a shooter that pointed the gun, and the guy tumbled off and lost his gun apparently as he was coming down the ladder and never fired back.
Apparently, they didn't even call in, and then the shots rang off a couple minutes later.
Eight rounds were taken off.
So you're talking about a situation here where at least somebody at the Secret Service had to have told local deputies that's one of ours.
Had to.
So, and that didn't happen.
Oh, sorry, that had to have happened.
Well, what I saw, too.
Yeah, Patrick, one thing that I saw was that the local police were all dressed up in hunting camo.
And, you know, I don't know about Crooks, but he may have gotten his camo at the same sporting goods store there in Butler, Pennsylvania, or something.
You know, it's so, you know, somebody could have mistaken him for part of that police detail that was supposedly backing them up.
And that just shows you why you don't rely on local police for very crucial roles in protecting a president.
Getting back.
The timeline before Patrick continues.
This again from Paul Craig Roberts, who gets it down to the minute.
Again, this is a friend of ours.
He's a guest on this program.
We like Paul, a former Reagan administration appointee.
He writes, Sometimes incompetence can be too great to be believed.
Listen, folks, I want to say again, I want to reiterate for a point of emphasis that I have no official position on this.
It could be as Gary Burns describes it, but it would not surprise me in the least if it was more than that.
More than that, because, well, I'll get to it in a moment, but first, the timeline.
Paul Craig Roberts writes it all.
He spells it all out.
5:10 p.m., Crooks is first identified as a person of interest.
5:30 p.m., Crooks is spotted with a range finder.
5:52 p.m., Crooks is spotted on the roof by the United States Secret Service.
6.02 p.m., Trump takes the stage.
6:12 p.m., Crooks fires first shots and is shot 26 seconds later.
How does that happen, Patrick?
It happens when somebody is in on it.
That's how that happens.
When you've got a 20-minute gap between the fact that you've identified somebody who is on a watch list, that you've seen him, you saw him, you know he's there.
You isolate him.
You ensure that he is sequestered in some way.
You wind up grabbing him, whatever it may be, talking to him, and so forth.
Now, they're now saying that he may have planted the rifle in advance.
I don't buy that story.
This is a guy who lived 50 miles away.
He's a 20-year-old.
He didn't really have, and I've been to Trump rallies before.
Trump rallies are, they're big, they're exciting.
There's a lot of people around a Trump rally.
There's a lot of security around Trump rallies.
And so if you're walking around, let's just say, for instance, for just a moment, he didn't have the rifle on.
He had pre-planted that rifle.
If you do a typical security sweep of the area as expected, you would have found that rifle.
That rifle would have been, especially on a roof, especially in an area that is as clearly identifiable as that roof specifically.
You can read, folks, don't go anywhere, Patrick.
We've got you for the full hour.
Read his article at identitydixie.com.
Was it luck or an inside job?
We're talking about it right now.
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Hit me with your best shot.
Come on, hit me with the best shot.
Hit me with the best shot.
Fire away.
Hit me with the best shot.
Why don't you hit me with your best shot?
Hit me with the best shot.
Fire away.
That's exactly what happened last week.
And my goodness, Patrick, how quickly history could have been changed.
We'll get into that with you before the end of this hour.
In the third hour, we're going to pivot to the Republican National Convention.
I was there for the last one.
It was a hell of an experience.
You can check it out at thepolitical cesspool.org.
The article that I wrote right after I got home from Cleveland in 2016, you'll recall that 2020 was a virtual event.
We didn't go this year.
We actually chose not to go this year.
It was a different time eight years ago.
But in any event, Paul Craig Roberts, one more quote from him, Patrick: We have no choice other than to consider the possibility that America is in the hands of powerful forces with evil intent.
It seems that the ruling establishment is determined to block from power any leader who might rally the people against the tyranny that is being imposed.
Folks, again, two different sides of this because there's two different options.
This was either something that happened due to incredible luck and incompetence or something more.
So we're covering both angles with people with informed opinions.
A former Secret Service agent of the first hour, a former Marine, a former government contractor this hour.
We were having an interesting conversation during the break, Patrick.
And Patrick, you were over in Afghanistan, which I imagine is a little bit more dangerous and more danger of assassination over there than in America, isn't it?
Yes.
And the thing is, I mean, just to point out real quick with Afghanistan, one of the biggest challenges for security of some of these senior level officials is that not all troops have the same political alignments.
And when you have, especially now, when you've got the military's gone a hard left, really hard left shift in the last roughly 10 years, if you are a right-wing candidate now or right-wing politician going to visit there, there's a lot of folks with access to guns and explosives that are very close to you.
And so there's a different security dynamic.
They don't like you.
And in 2008, by the way, there was a whole lot of troops that liked Obama coming in.
So, I mean, this was a very different security dynamic that occurs.
That's one of the reasons why Obama, candidate Obama, chose Blackwater over the Secret Service to protect him when he went to Afghanistan.
He did not necessarily trust that the full security apparatus would be available to him.
So he wanted to make sure that he had diplomatic security that was the best.
And that was Blackwater.
It was 2008 again.
That's when I was working at Blackwater at the same time.
It's a very different, you're talking about a very different environment, very different security environment.
Obviously, you've got bad guys outside of the fences, and you've got folks inside who may have ill harm.
So the challenges are different.
Obviously, the military, of course, can provide a great deal of greater security in general than, say, your local police department, your local deputies, and so forth.
But, you know, a lot of the protocols you asked before, why rely upon these local police departments?
One of the reasons why the Secret Service and other agencies rely so heavily on local law enforcement is one, they know the area better.
That's one of the things that came out with the National Incident Management System.
The NIMS, which was defined in the early 2000s, was largely restructured as a result of the, if anybody remembers the Washington, D.C. sniper shootings that occurred.
There were two black gentlemen, a stepfather, of course, and a step son going around shooting primarily white targets throughout D.C.
I think they killed, they killed something close to, I think, a dozen.
I don't recall exactly.
They were targeting people driving on the interstate.
Yeah.
Gas station is exactly right.
That's what I was going to say.
So they were targeting primarily white victims.
Some Hispanics were killed as well.
And so you had this, you know, what happened when they realized was that in order to have a truly functional security system, you need to be able to talk.
The federal government needs to be able to talk to local law enforcement.
And they restructured the way they communicate in a massive way.
And you later on had the national response plan that came out of the post-Hurricane Katrina era and so forth.
So these two systems essentially have joined in order to ensure that when you have a local law enforcement officer that gets a report, hey, there's a guy on that roof, it goes back to a senior official who is part of that federal agency who then makes a determination as to whether or not there's a threat or not in real time, immediately.
Hey, get that guy off the roof.
Or, hey, that's one of ours.
So that's an immediate thing.
So you don't have that.
That's number one.
That's something to think about.
That's one.
The other part, too, is this.
And folks have talked about this.
Well, why not just, he's an older man.
You know, Trump is not exactly the most physically fit guy.
Why not just poison in the middle of the night?
You know, he's a 78-year-old guy.
You can just poison his food and he'll be dead and say he got COVID or something.
Well, the thing about Trump is, and I'm not a fan of Trump, and I have my reasons for that.
But that said, the one thing about Trump is you've got to kill a movement.
You can't, if you poison him in the middle of the night and he dies in his sleep, the movement lives.
The movement survives.
It goes on.
He just becomes a martyr.
He's now a past, he's a gentleman who passed in his sleep, but he's an icon, a lion.
If he gets killed in front of everybody, the movement itself is total essential.
You move too far, we're going to shoot you.
We're going to kill you.
If you go out of your lane, we're going to kill you.
And that is the message that needs to be clearly conveyed.
If you really want to kill a movement, now they would make him a martyr.
And there's a lot of Trump fans out there that would be pretty damn ticked off if this man gets killed.
But, you know, they've done so much to destroy any kind of pushback.
I mean, you saw what they did in Charlottesville in the aftermath of Charlottesville, which was really a protest primarily over the removal of monuments.
And they made that into, they weaponized that to destroy the dissident right.
And then they wound up going after the J-Sixers after January 6th, which was not an insurrection.
It's a massive protest.
The idea there's an insurrection is ridiculous.
But they had the J-Sixers, they crucified these J-Sixers.
They've gone after them in the most brutal way.
They violated habeas corpus like Lincoln did right after.
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
See, that was the most blatant violation of constitutional rights that I've ever seen.
Oh, no question.
And you can see that.
And you can see that this is a, I mean, Grant, you're talking about a protest on publicly accessible grounds.
I've walked the halls of Congress before.
I've met with congressmen before, senators before.
I've eaten in the Rayburn building before.
I mean, I know there's a cafeteria that's downstairs from the Senate offices that's publicly accessible.
This was a one hell of a canard, one hell of a false flag event.
But that's why they use the term insurrectionist so they could do what Lincoln did.
Lincoln, of course, the Maryland legislature, et cetera, calling them the insurrectionists.
Well, going back to this Trump incident that occurred, it just doesn't make sense.
The timing doesn't make sense of it.
The timeline doesn't make sense of it.
The gentleman that's there, this radicalized gentleman who's apparently on young man, who's on a, now they say he's on a watch list, but he was only on a watch list for a day or two.
I mean, that seems a little bizarre to me.
First of all, anybody joining the John Brown gun clubs should probably be on a watch list because these are Antifa.
These are severely violent, extreme violent Antifa.
These are the folks that are preparing to use guns in order to achieve a Marxist revolution.
Let me ask you this, Patrick, real quick.
Wasn't there some guy in his 60s that was a member of that gun club out in Portland or something that got shot and killed as he was in the process of trying to shoot and kill someone else?
Do you recall that?
I do remember something that's right.
He was trying to attack, I think, DHS and a DHS office or an immigration office out there in Portland, if I remember correctly.
And he was about 65 years old attacking.
I think it was an ICE enforcement office that they were attacking at the time.
Again, this is a group that's known.
I mean, you can look it up.
I'm not just making this up.
You can look it up on, you can Google it if you want to.
The John Brown gun clubs.
And yet, none of them are on a watch list, by the way.
I mean, that's the one thing I find interesting.
Here I am.
I'm on a watch list forever.
I get on a plane.
I'm given the full security bat down.
I usually have to show up at the airport.
I've been working non-stop for the last five months around the country.
So setting up a new business venture.
So as I've been moving in different states, every time I get on a plane, I give myself an extra hour because I know I will be pulled aside and I will have to go through a much more thorough personal inspection by TSA every time.
And it's mostly because of my affiliations and my previous activities.
This is a fellow that was part of an organization that has openly stated it's there to seek a violent revolution in the United States, and yet they are not watching them at all.
And so if they say that he was on a watch list for the last maybe what, couple hours or a day, maybe, that he was on some kind of watch list, the fact that he was able to openly walk in that area, if I was to walk into, say, an Obama event or a Biden event, if it was me, I would be stopped.
I would be identified and I would be stopped.
And somebody would say, why are you here?
You know, what are you up here?
That would happen immediately to somebody like me.
And then, especially if I was carrying a rifle.
If I'm walking around with a rifle, now again, they're saying that he may have pre-planted it.
I don't buy that, that he pre-planted it.
If he did pre-plant it, then he pre-planted it with the full knowledge that nobody was going to search for it.
Because then, again, you're talking about another security failure on the part of the Secret Service.
Again, the Trump events are very, they're heavily guarded.
There's a lot of people there.
They tell you where they're going to be, but you don't really have a lay of the land of what the Trump event will be like until you arrive.
For anybody who's ever been there, you can vouch for me on this.
No, I'll vouch for you right now, Patrick, because I have first-hand experience with this.
I have first-hand experience of being an attendee as credentialed media at a Trump rally at the Republican National Convention in 2016 and at Trump's inauguration.
And you do have to get vetted by the Secret Service.
I mean, I had to turn over everything to them.
And you still have to go through all of the security protocols as any other attendee would have to do on site.
I mean, going through the metal detectors, getting patted down, and then all of the things you have to do in advance just to get the credentials.
So, yes, I mean, I can remember going to these things in 2016 and just how well organized and well-oiled they were.
So, again, the idea, this is your article at identitydixie.com, which we have cross-posted at thepolitical cesspool.org.
Check it out at either place.
Was it luck or an inside job?
Again, we're talking and we're getting feedback right now.
Local listener Todd writes, a great show.
Nice to get information from professionals.
Don't get me wrong, not saying it was, but Padrick sounds like an expert.
We all have our suspicions.
Well, thank you, Todd, for that.
But yeah, I mean, you know, these things aren't easy to get into, and it's certainly much harder to get into if you're carrying a rifle and you're climbing buildings and you're getting set up in your perch and all of that.
But so you got to believe that this was a 20-year-old kid who is apparently far superior in tactics, training, and deployment than Secret Service agents that the Biden administration assigned to Trump and the local cops who were on the beat that day.
Well, the other possibility, though, James, is this.
And he has like a government agent up to the point that he fired the gun.
After that, he was going to be eliminated just like Lee Harvey also.
Well, I mean, and then he outmaneuvered all of these people.
You've got to believe that if you believe the official narrative, and I'm not saying I don't.
I'm just saying I'm looking at this from both sides tonight.
But the question, Patrick, would have to be, if he was a plant, if he was allowed to do this.
And we're saying if.
That's a big if.
That's in capital letters.
That means that someone within the establishment sees Trump as a threat.
I know that this, I think.
Oh, no, that's absolutely fact.
I think this is what makes your appearance tonight, Patrick, all the more interesting and in fact compelling, as Gary Byrne was compelling in the first hour, is that you're not a Trump fan.
But for this to have occurred and it not be just incompetence, that means that some people still do see Trump as a threat to the existing order.
How do you reconcile all of that as someone who sees Trump somewhat skeptically?
Yeah, so that's a great question because I actually wrote another article following up on that, killing the Trump, which was just posted yesterday as well.
Why they were going to kill Trump.
And yeah, so here the thing about Trump in general, well, first of all, again, real quick on that, the young man, if he was pre-planting a rifle there, he had to know that that purse would be available to him.
So you think about that for a moment.
If they're saying he planted a rifle there before he got there, that's why he wasn't seen with a rifle in his hand, then he knew that that purchase was going to be available to him.
There's no other way because there's a bunch of buildings around there.
How did he know that that one building would not have somebody up there?
So if he pre-planted a rifle there, how did he know that that was the one building that would have no security available to him?
And so he pre-planted the rifle if he did pre-planned rifle.
But so that's just something to think about.
He was too naive to realize they were going to kill him after he did the deed.
Or maybe he wasn't.
Maybe it was suicidal in some kind of weird way, wanted to go out as a hero.
But regardless, the young man obviously knew that that was going to be available to him.
You know, going to the idea of Trump himself, though, Trump is an idea more than he is a functional leader in that regard.
I've got my misgivings about Trump, but what I do see about Trump is that Trump inspires something within a population that needs inspiration.
It's been begging for inspiration for years, has not had a voice.
I am strongly of the opinion that the reason why Trump won in 2016, why it was so popular, why I voted for him in 2016, was because he was a punch in the nose of a Washington, D.C. elite class that has absolutely pooped on the American population for decades.
And whether it's Republican or Democrat, they have taken advantage of American workers.
They've taken advantage of the American people.
They've sent our young boys into wars of no gain, of no purpose whatsoever.
So those young men are coming home to jobs that have been outsourced to China.
And so the best job they can get is a Walmart greeter or a stockboy.
I mean, this is a United States that has been suffering for a very long time due to the fact that our elites have taken advantage of us.
And Trump has given voice to a group of people that have really needed that voice.
They needed somebody to go out there and say, I feel your pain.
I understand where you're coming from.
And I am here to fix it.
There's another part to it, though, Padrick, too, and that's this.
He's the only person with the celebrity and the wealth and the ornery spirit, to put it bluntly, to survive through everything that's been thrown at him.
Don't you agree?
Well, I agree with that.
I mean, again, if you think about it, again, they continually try to get rid of him.
So 2016, again, the FISA courts, the manipulation, the whole idea of the Russia collusion, that didn't work.
They then try to impeach him.
That didn't work.
They then go with this whole so-called insurrection.
That didn't work.
They then go after him legal cases throughout.
Now, again, I'm one who didn't even think you'd make it to this November because I thought, and I don't think he did anything illegal, by the way.
I think that is a bunch of malarkey.
I don't think Trump did anything illegal, but I did think that the system, the judicial system was so corrupt, so deeply corrupt, that they would find him guilty for something that clearly was Trump's charge.
And I thought the strongest case was going to be possibly Georgia because Fulton County is very antagonistic towards Trump.
It's a very corrupt county in Georgia.
And I thought they were going to eliminate him.
Now, he got fortunate in that Colorado actually did something really stupid and derailed the rest of the Democrats' plans.
Left's, actually, I think the establishment, I don't think it's really Democrat or Republican.
It's established's plans, which was that Color Robert tried to remove him from the ballot, forcing the issue to the Supreme Court prematurely.
Had Colorado been more disciplined, they would have waited for these legal issues to occur through the summer, and then around September or October, they would have tried to remove him from the ballot, in which case he wouldn't have had time to get to the Supreme Court before the election.
And that's how they would have gotten the ballot.
That would have been a smarter move, but they didn't do that because they lacked discipline.
Of course, they still got the situation in New York, where they're going to do sentencing now in September rather than four days before the convention, which they had planned.
But I want to just go back to this.
What a rapid hour.
Patrick Martin, Gary Byrne, back-to-back.
Different takes, both interesting.
Both you can buy into.
Both insiders in terms of information.
Absolutely.
That's why we selected these two gentlemen to be on tonight.
We may never know the truth because the investigation is being conducted by the ones who were responsible.
Whether they were complicit, whether they were complicit or whether they were incompetent, they are the ones doing the investigation.
But a young man with no military training and a minimal online presence found his way into a physical position that was a chip shot for any competent shooter.
And came within a fraction of an inch of killing Donald Trump.
And Trump turned his head the millisecond that trigger was pulled and he survived.
Now, if there is something more to this than meets the eye, our people have to understand, Patrick, and I would leave it with this.
Our people have to understand, if it's more than incompetence, that means that it goes to the very root of who our enemies are and how ruthless these people are.
They want us dead.
They want us dead, whether the threat is real, like people like us or imagined, like maybe Trump.
But we are fighting.
Here's what we've got to remember.
We're fighting violent Marxism, and it is violent to the very core of its DNA.
This is what they do.
We have seen it from the Bolshevik Revolution to the so-called civil rights era to BLM and Antifa.
They tried to kill Steve Scalise, Brett Kavanaugh, now Trump.
By the way, that's all totally unprincipled.
All branches of government.
There are no principles.
They've espoused principles throughout their careers, but they are basically unprincipled.
They'll do whatever it takes to win.
The guy who said the SBLC inspired him to kill workers at the Christian group in D.C., and I can't even remember how many cops that the mostly peaceful BLM protesters killed in the last decade.
And the government knows who these people are.
You know, we need George Patton and Curtis LeMay to come back from the dead.
And we need to say to them, hey, fellas, we got a problem here with this group of people, and we need to let you go to work.
Because Trump and the GOP haven't shown any indication, Patrick, that they are willing to go after these violent, murderous ideologies while at the same time, the left is putting people in prison.
Right now, as we speak, as they are in power, they are putting people in prison for years for turning the Capitol on January 6th or for showing up in Virginia with tiki torches for years.
So, yeah, pushovers get rolled, and we better get at least as tough as our enemies are, or we're dead.
You know, it's interesting to say that since 2019, Attorney General Ashley Moody out of Florida and Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor, have put into prison about 350 Antifa members.
They've prosecuted them.
They put them in prison over the last, since 2019.
They continue to target them in Florida.
Now, you don't see this happening in the rest of the country.
The largest, by the way, the largest number of arrests and prosecutions occurred in around the George Floyd riots that attempted in the Tampa, Miami, and Jacksonville areas.
So you've got, there are some folks out there that are beginning to push back.
The question really is: you've got a federal government that's very clearly the enemy of the American people, and it is especially the enemy of our people.
And so, ultimately, whether we get answers or not, I just think that turning to any kind of federal solution is just simply not going to happen.
This is going to happen at a state level.
We've got to be wise as to what they're doing and what the states are doing, hold their state leaders accountable, and fight back at a very, very local level.
Because very clearly, our enemies are big, they're numerous, they're powerful, and they're based out of Washington, D.C.
And they're totally unprincipled.
100%.
They're principled.
They've got their one goal: Bolshevism.
Is it good for our side?
That's it, folks.
Again, check out his articles at identitydixie.com.
We have cross-posted one at thepolitical cesspool.org.
Was it luck or an inside job?
He has another one at identitydixie.com since that has come out.
Check it out.
Patrick Martin, again, between he and Gary Byrne.
We've tried to give you both sides of the argument that our people are trying to figure out and doing it with people with an informed perspective.
Former Secret Service, former Marine, former government contractor.
You may still be confused, but at least you'll be informed in your confusion.
Traveled around the world on behalf of this government.
Patrick Martin has been to 75 plus countries on behalf of Uncle Sam.
So he knows a little bit.
He knows a lot more than most.
Patrick, the music's about to start.
Final word to you, my friend.
Well, gentlemen, first of all, again, thank you very much.
Really appreciate the support.
Love the political cesspool.
Always a pleasure to be with the two of you and just point out the fact that obvious we need our own nation state.
It's time for the South to secede.
Please push push locally and make sure that we're creating anti-fragile networks that will make that possible.
I just want to say thank you very much again, gentlemen, for the opportunity and God bless.
We'll talk to you again soon.
It's been too long since we last talked for a full hour.
I will never forget the book signing, the debut, the launch of the honorable cause in South Carolina last spring, a little more than a year ago now.
You're in some change.
Great crowd turnout.
You and I, and Ann Wilson Smith and Rebecca dissident Mama Dillingham, all signing books there.
And listen, it's always an honor and a privilege, Patrick, to collaborate with you any way we do it, whether it's in the print form or the spoken word.
Great to have you back tonight, my friend.
Check out his latest work at identitydixie.com.
And we'll talk to you again soon.
Perfect guest for tonight's conversation.
Patrick Martin, give him a big round of applause out there, wherever you're listening.