July 13, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
And welcome back, everybody.
Welcome back.
20 years in this business, and you overcome obstacles, you adapt, you evolve, you just find a way to make things happen.
James Edwards and Keith Alexander tonight.
The thing you don't know, ladies and gentlemen, a little behind the scenes, Keith and I got here about an hour before the show started tonight, and we had an entirely different guest booked from overseas that was going to be with us this evening.
And we had a lot of difficulty connecting with her, and nothing was working right.
On her end, on our end, she was having computer connectivity issues, and we were troubleshooting this, and that about just wasn't going to work out.
And about 17 minutes before the show started, I told her that we would reschedule her and get her on the books for a later date.
And then that left the first hour wide open.
So we have literally 15 minutes, 15 minutes before the show starts tonight.
And we have a wide open hour with no, I mean, we could have figured something out.
We would have talked.
But I said, I'm going to call Steve Stockman.
So I'll call Steve Stockman 15 minutes before the show starts.
Hey, Steve, what are you up to tonight?
I'm driving through Tennessee on my way up to the Republican National Convention.
Just gave a talk at this group here and this group here.
And I said, that's great.
Wonderful.
As a matter of fact, if you're in the car, how about calling into the show tonight?
We've got a last-minute opening and you'd be wonderful.
And there he was.
Just a few minutes later, there he was.
And you just heard him.
And it's always great to talk to him.
And I think certainly a fitting guest.
God's will be done.
I told Keith after the first hour, God's will be done.
There may be some surprises to us, but there's not to him.
And that interview that I had in mind was meant to be rescheduled, and Steve was meant to be on tonight.
And I thought it was great to have a former congressman talking about all the stuff we've been witnessing on both sides of the duopoly, the Republicans and the Democrats.
He's going to be up there in Milwaukee.
We didn't spend nearly enough time on the Republican side of things as I would have liked, getting his takes and insights because we spent so much time on the Democrats, but it was all time well spent.
I think we worked better on the fly, if you want to know the truth.
That's the first thing Keith said when our producer said we were clear out of the end of the first segment.
But I'm talking about an hour that had absolutely no prep by either us or the guest.
And we just started talking, and that's how it all came out.
We had no line of questioning, no topics set up.
We're just going to talk about what's going on.
Well, we often say that the left never lets us down.
We never are left with nothing to say.
We've got a pretty deep bench in the phone.
So I was scrolling through it.
I was like, you know, I want somebody that hasn't been on, you know, within the last couple of weeks.
And I want, you know, who's somebody that could talk about something timely?
And then I saw Steve Stockman, yeah, the GOP convention.
I didn't even know he was going, but found that out tonight.
Habits are hard to break.
Exactly.
Anyway, he's always a fun guy to talk to.
And a larger-than-life story.
Every time he's on, I would remind you to go back and listen to his interview with us.
He's been on several times, a couple of times this year with Steve King, back when Steve King and I. He's like the modern version of Whitaker Chambers.
When Steve King and I were at a speaking engagement together in Orlando the first week of February, Steve Stockman appeared with Steve King and Peter Brimelow on that show.
They were both with us.
Steve and Steve were both with us back in June, as we mentioned.
But the interview you really got to hear with Steve Stockman is his interview, if you just listen to one, his interview on November the 18th of 2023, when he talks about everything that he experienced while serving in Congress on two separate occasions in two separate districts, nearly 20 years apart.
It's an incredible story what they put him in prison.
They gerrymandered his district the first time, put him in prison the second.
It's just an incredible, there really should be.
And I think there is a documentary, a short film coming up about his life, but this is a story that would make for just an incredible movie, the story about how they treat.
I mean, talking about being in solitary confinement and all the torture that they did.
The American version of Gulag Archipelago.
Yes.
He's a new social network.
You know, they withheld his medicine.
And when Trump commuted his sentence, they tried to poison him.
Yeah, really.
He talks about all of that.
So, anyway, fascinating guy, great guy.
All right.
We're going to catch our breath this hour.
We're going to talk about some of the recent trips we've had, some behind-the-scenes stuff from those, not things you heard on the radio, because, well, you heard them on the radio.
There's no need to recover that.
But first, we're going to read some listener correspondence.
This comes from a first-time donor, Carol, in Illinois.
And she writes, With everything being shut down, I feel like you are one of America's last hopes.
Keep up the great work.
I have been receiving your emails for years, and now is the time for me to stand up.
God bless you and your family.
And she asks if we could send her the recent copy of For the Love of Dixie, which was our incentive last month.
And Carol, thank you for being a first-time donor.
All the way up in the land of Lincoln, getting the book about the Dixie that we sent out from TBR.
Mark in Oklahoma writes, Dear James and Keith, thank you so much, and the entire crew.
And we do have a great production crew.
I have to give kudos to our producer, Liz, who was with us for all of this troubleshooting and all the back and forth that was going on behind the scenes in the studios tonight.
She is just an ace.
Mark writes, thank you so much for your hard work and dedication.
It helps me maintain morale out here.
Thank you so much.
Well, that's what we are here to do, to encourage people, to inform them, maybe be a little entertaining, although that's not.
Let them know that all hope is not lost.
That's right.
And hope is never lost, never lost.
While we breathe, we hope.
That's the motto of the state of South Carolina, old Latin phrase.
Doug in Las Vegas, James, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Well, thank you.
Listen, just right there, Illinois, Oklahoma, Las Vegas, Nevada, TPC Nation is everywhere.
And we have met so many of you over the course of the last couple of weeks.
Again, being down in Louisiana two weeks ago tonight.
And last week, at this time, we were in South Carolina for a raucous, raucous live crowd.
Both of those shows, very interesting in different ways in Louisiana.
Three hours with a single guest.
Last week, it was our 4th of July annual 4th of July show.
And I just don't think they continue to get better.
All of these things, every year, you look at the program.
I think, just looking at it from my seat as host, you go over five-year increments, 10-year increments, and even year-to-year.
It just seems like everything we do, even these things that are on the regular calendar, like March Around the World or Confederate History Month or the show we did last week, they just seem to get a little bit better every year.
And that's certainly due in large part to our guests.
Like fine wine, we age well.
You listen, and we met a lot of people last week that have been listening since 2009, since 2015.
I asked one gentleman from the UK who was with us in South Carolina last week, just had a great time meeting him.
We talked a little bit about that on the program.
But I said, you know, why have you been listening for so long?
What's kept you?
And he just said, the guest, you have the best guest.
And we really do.
And it's such a great assortment of guests, too.
Individually, they're all wonderful.
Obviously, we wouldn't bring somebody on just to do a throwaway segment or a throwaway hour.
Oh, here's a guest.
You know, he might be okay, but it probably won't be too good.
No, everybody we bring on, we try to bring them on because they're interesting and informed.
But it can be anyone from, you know, historical figure to a former congressman or a sitting elected official.
It may be a celebrity guest, but obviously our movement stalwarts are the people that we've created this show to present a forum to.
We're like an old prospector.
We know where the gold is buried.
And we seek it out.
I was telling you last night on the phone, Keith, that it was being in South Carolina last week was wonderful.
You could hear that on the radio.
But what was interesting about the audience was there's a lot of people in the audience there who have never met us before.
So by that I mean it was different than what we, the audience that we had or the in-person, the in-person audience, not the at-large listening audience, but than what we had at our conference back in May.
And the people that we invite to our conference, and we have to do these things very discreetly to avoid threats of violence and shutdowns from the left.
But these are people that are known to us and have been around us many times before.
And it's like family reunions, old friends.
We talk about that.
A lot of people in the crowd last week were meeting us for the first time.
But it doesn't mean that they were less informed on the program.
Now, I'm talking about these are people who have maybe never financially contributed to the radio program before, but they know this show back and forth.
And they know its program history.
They can tell you things we've done, things we've said, all of this going back many, many, many years.
And I think after the show last week, we sat around for, well, we sat around for a while talking after the show, but I think for about 10 or 15 minutes, we did an autograph session, people coming up and getting signed books and taking pictures.
And it was just fun to meet people for the first time and see that enthusiasm that they have for the show.
What we have done here as a collective has been very special and very worthwhile.
And I don't know if there's really any organization that connects with its audience and its listeners and its friends and its supporters to the extent that we do.
It's very heartfelt, very genuine from us to them and from them to us.
The music's playing, but a quick response to that.
Well, we have a large audience, a larger audience than we even know.
And that's what all these visits that we take all over the place proves to us.
They're people that we've never heard of.
And they tell us that they've been listening to us for years.
That's right.
That's right.
We'll be right back.
We are going to get to some news this hour, so stay tuned for that in time.
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Catching our breath.
That's what we're doing this hour.
We're working through some correspondence.
We are going to get to some issues, but some announcements, some reflections, as this year is going by so fast.
And if you don't pause to appreciate it from time to time, it'll be gone before you know it.
I think it is the Psalms tell us, the Psalms instruct us to be still and know.
I think the context of that is be still and know that he is our God.
But in this context, it is just be still and appreciate what we've got.
Let's not always be looking forward to the next thing to where we don't stop long enough to be present, to be present and appreciate all of the things that are happening.
So again, two weeks ago, wonderful gathering in Louisiana.
There was actually at that particular remote broadcast a water slide on scene.
And I took my wife and kids down there for that one.
And my son played out in that heat and humidity on the shores of Lake Pontchatrain for so long.
He slept for two days, which is all he could sleep because then he was with me in South Carolina last week.
He enjoys tagging along with dad on these things.
But we were up until 2 a.m., 3 a.m., you know, in Louisiana singing karaoke.
We, a friend of mine and I did a wonderful rendition of Mac the Knife.
And I think we did a little Smokey Robinson too.
We got pretty deep into the Four Seasons songbook, of course.
And now who told you it was a wonderful rendition?
At 3 a.m. It all sounds good, you know.
But this is the point: yes, we are engaged in an internal struggle.
All right.
Very serious.
I mean, this is life and death.
Will we exist kind of stuff?
But at the same time, at our gatherings, we enjoy one another.
That is, it is, it is all at once.
It is, we do the serious things, but we still take time to enjoy the life God has given us and the family and the company and the comrades, the friendship that we share with so many people.
And that's nice.
And we certainly have done that a lot this year because we've been on the road a lot with not only our conference, but other events as well.
And just getting back to our conference for a moment back in May, I'm only revisiting this stuff because this is sort of like a pause and reflect hour.
But we have so many letters.
This is on a yellow legal pad, a handwritten note here from a listener who writes, Dear James and the TPC family, it was an honor to be invited to and attend parts of your 20th anniversary bash.
It truly meant a lot that y'all included us.
The mystery speaker was fantastic.
I felt like I could have listened to him for hours longer.
I'm so happy that you chose the location you did because it's always a pleasure meeting everyone that comes to events you're at.
And this was a listener that was near the location who lives near the location of our 20th anniversary conference where it was held back in May.
But you want to know, he was at the event last weekend as well.
You want to know an incredible story, Keith?
Let me know.
He was listening to the radio program that we did live from the 20th anniversary event.
He had gone home earlier that day.
He was at the conference, the Friday night session, and he said something told him to go home that afternoon and not stay for the show that night, but just listen to it at home.
And he said he was listening to the show, and in the second hour, and he had no idea that this would happen, that they had been praying for it for a while.
His wife came to him while he was listening to that anniversary broadcast show back in May and told him that they were expecting their first child.
Hallelujah.
And he told me that, you know, from now on, the show will always be a part connected to his firstborn.
And, you know, when he told me that, I mean, obviously, it just makes you feel like you're on top of the world just to share in these moments in life that people have.
And we get this.
We get this from listeners all the time.
They will email us.
They will write us these letters talking about things going on in their lives, whether it's good things like a growing family or hard times.
Maybe they've lost a job or they're going through some financial distress, as we all are.
But we will hear these things.
And got a letter from a dear lady who I've never had the honor to meet, but she's been a longtime listener, never even spoken with her.
But she sends in correspondence and support fairly regularly, a couple of times a year, I would say.
And she lives in East Tennessee, and she's in her later years, and she was talking about how she was in rehab and is in rehab for some issues that are going on.
And she sent me a very nice Hallmark card just saying that the show was on our mind.
We were on our mind asking how we're doing.
We really have that, and you have to have that.
If you do not love one another, if you do not stand ready to support one another, you've got nothing.
I mean, what are we building?
What's the point in winning if we don't have a community, a high-trust community where people feel at one and interconnected?
And I'm so glad we've built that.
I got this.
Well, that's like the Tom Jones song, Without Love, You Have Nothing at All.
This listener, his father was a listener.
All right.
And he writes, James, dad, and he gives me his father's name, was a huge fan and a longtime supporter for many years.
He passed away recently and peacefully.
And I just wanted to let you know that I, too, have become a fan of what you do and stand for through his support of your radio program, Blessings and Continued Success.
And that comes from a listener in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee, a little bit to the east of us.
So it's just, this is, I don't know, I hope every organization in our cause or all of our standard bearers can share similar stories, but I know that we can.
And again, folks, this is very special.
I don't guess I'm telling you anything that's unprecedented, but it's things that we need to pause, and that's what we're doing this hour, pause and put some stock into.
You never know how much influence you have on people.
And we find that out all the time.
Whenever we go to a meet and greet, whenever we get mail, we're basically astounded at how many people follow us and really enjoy our show.
And it's very humbling.
We've got some more correspondence from people who were both at the 20th anniversary conference a couple of months ago.
This is how long we've been waiting to do a mail segment.
We've been so busy.
And people who could not be there.
This comes from a listener in Texas.
Dear James and Keith, I so dread that I wasn't able to attend your 20th anniversary celebration.
You've hinted that there might be other gatherings in the future, so I'll hope you will keep me on the invite list.
Well, yes, Brian, this is Brian in Texas.
We most certainly will.
He commented on Nick Griffin's video speech from the conference, which we were actually able to replay on TPC the week after because we had that one on tape.
Nick Griffin's video speech was spot on and echoes the thing that I perceive to be happening, especially concerning economies, demographics, and political trajectories.
Surely if we see these things, many others do as well.
I know with certainty that our leaders like Mr. Griffin and you too, James and Keith, will raise awareness to these problems and help our people see a brighter future.
Remember, progress, however, slight or slow, is still progress.
Well, thank you, Brian, for that, and I agree, and I appreciate your support.
And we will definitely look forward to seeing you a little later on down the trail, hopefully at an event in the very near future.
And these events are becoming more and more commonplace, whether it's something that we're putting on or something that we've been invited to.
We are certainly at the middle of a lot of things right now.
Nathan in Vermont, dear James and Keith, thanks again for a memorable 20th anniversary bash.
And he sent a very nice bottle of Vermont whiskey infused with Vermont maple syrup.
I was about to say, I thought maple syrup rather than whiskey.
No, no, no.
Well, there is maple syrup in the whiskey.
And we want to thank you.
He writes, thanks again for all your hard work and hope to see you soon.
We hope to see you again soon as well, Nathan.
And this is from Tom in California.
Hey, James, sorry I missed the event of the year.
I'm planning to make the next one.
I'm going to ride my motorcycle to your next event and make a national tour of the southern states.
So this is a gentleman already planning ahead to our next event.
Be careful about the potholes in the road, right?
Travel from California to wherever we have our next event on his motorcycle.
He says, I look forward to TPC every week.
Well, thank you for being with us every week, Tom, and thank you for your support.
Look, you see the diversity of all of these handwritten notes.
I see green paper.
I see yellow paper, white paper, blue pen, black.
You've covered up the keyboard on your laptop.
Yeah, I know, I got to do that because that's the one that keeps the show going.
How about this one?
This is a dog with a nice, what is that?
Looks like a beagle.
A beagle is what it looks like to me.
From a listener in Virginia.
Dear James and Keith, as always, it's a privilege to support your work.
I am informed, entertained, inspired, and refreshed after every program.
I have to admit, I was a little jealous missing out on the 20th anniversary festivities after hearing all the fun and the amazing guest on the radio.
Hopefully, I'll be able to shake your hand at the 25th or sooner.
Well, let's make it sooner than five years from now.
Who knows what prison cell we'll be in by then?
And perhaps we'll have turned the corner by then.
That's what we're hoping for, Mike.
That's certainly what we're hoping for.
And he writes that he hopes that Elon will let us back on Twitter.
Well, I'll tell you, I think they've put us under the Twitter jail, my friend.
I don't think that's happening.
I appeal that suspension, that unjust suspension every month.
I never get a response as to why we were suspended.
I never got a warning that we were going to be suspended.
And not only that, they have now forbidden people who actually still have Twitter accounts from even posting links to thepolitical cesspool.org.
And in fact, a couple of people have been banned for even trying to post links to our program.
So that's how bad it is at Twitter.
I don't think we're coming back.
Somebody actually brought that up in South Carolina though.
They said, why you got these raving people advocating violence in the name of our cause and all of that?
And they're on Twitter.
But Kevin McDonald and Jared Taylor and James Edwards aren't.
Somebody piped up and said they do not want thoughtful and effective people on there.
Now, obviously, there are thoughtful and effective people.
We know a lot of them that are on there.
Henrik Pomgren is still on there.
And I can't think of all the people who are still on there because I'm not on there and I can't even see it.
But there are still great people there.
But yeah, they've definitely, there's definitely a disconnect in some people who are there and some people who are not.
Well, you know, we hesitate to mention their names because that might provoke the powers that be to censor them.
But when we are out from under the censorship cover, then you know that the promised land has been reached.
We'll be right back as this much-needed hour of thought and reflection.
Goodwill continues.
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Love that ad by Jim Dowson, who is going to be back with us next week from Ireland.
So stay tuned for that.
And we're going to be talking about his efforts, his latest efforts.
And always fun to talk with Jim.
Always fun to hear that accent.
I love Jim Dawson.
He works closely with Nick Griffin.
Nick Griffin works closely with him.
So two good friends over there.
He'll be on next week.
He was not the guest we're going to have tonight.
I think I mentioned that it was, I don't know if I mentioned it or not, it was going to be Liv Haida from WhiteDate.net, but we had such a difficult time establishing a connection, just computer problems both here in the studio and on her end, I believe.
And anyway, we're going to get her rescheduled, but she's always fun to talk to, too.
Haven't talked to her in a couple of years.
Just as I said, Keith, all around the world and on all different sub-castes of our movement, we have people, the very best representatives for any given topic that would think it's the Lord's hand.
He was guiding us towards Steve Stockman tonight, and we didn't know it.
Well, we did the best with what we could, and it turned out very good.
Now, Steve Stockman is never anybody's second choice, of course.
I'm not saying, well, if things had gone the way we had planned tonight, nope, the things went as they were meant, and we can get live back on.
It was good to have because we needed to have some time talking about what's been going on in presidential power politics lately.
Because the last two weeks being on the road, we haven't really focused on news and current events that much.
So, because of the nature of those two particular shows, this letter in from Canada, I believe it is up near Vancouver.
Dear James, I hope this note finds you and your family in good health.
Listening to you on your show certainly indicates that you are in top form.
Well, I'm glad we appear that way because I'll tell you what, I'm certainly a little travel weary, but putting this headset and microphone on every Saturday night brings me back to life.
It's just an uncanny thing.
I just listened to the, excuse me, not just, I listened to the first hour of your June 15th show twice.
Warren Bailag was very interesting.
The whole Trump phenomenon is fascinating and frustrating, as I'm sure you could agree with.
Your analysis of him being our guy but not our guy, without an ideology, but still somewhat helpful in some ways, seems to encapsulate an accurate description of the Donald.
From here on to November, the election should be quite the ride.
I look forward to TPC for the best info.
Well, thank you so much from British Columbia, my friend Ed, who listens every week all the way up in the great Pacific Northwest, even north of the border, Keith.
The Great White North, as they call it.
Over in Pennsylvania, we have Dale, who writes, Dear James Edwards, my prayers are continuing for you, your loved ones, and your associates at the Political Cesspool, and everyone else in the fight.
I enjoy your interviews in the American Free Press.
I appreciate your unity.
And speaking of that, thank you, Dale, for that.
Speaking of that, there's a little note on the other side.
Let's see.
But speaking of that, though, yes, I do want to mention, I'm glad Dale wrote in, and I am thankful for his support because this has just been something during this pause, this reset and refresh hour that we're doing right now.
It has been a little over one year now, Keith, since I signed on with the American Free Press to be a full-time contributor for them, in addition to my duties here.
And it has just been the most seamless, hand-in-glove partnership that one could hope for.
And the whole team there, Paul Angel and Chris Petrick, are phenomenal.
I remember traveling up to Washington to meet Willis Cardo back a couple of years before the show started in 2002 or 2003, something like that.
And Chris Petherick was there even then.
That's the editor-in-chief for AFP.
And of course, Willis, God bless him and God rest his soul.
But this is something where not everybody who listens to the Political Cess Pull reads the American Free Press.
Not everybody who reads the American Free Press listens to the Political Cess Pole, but I think everybody should.
I think everybody who listens to TPC or reads AFP are at least aware of one another.
And the Barnes Review as well.
We've had a lot of content in the Barnes Review the last few issues, which is a sister publication.
It's a historical journal that comes out every other month, whereas the American Free Press is a current events and news newspaper, print newspaper that comes out every other week.
But these are, it's just been great.
And so we're a year into that now, and we hear a lot from AFP and TBR readers who have become TPC listeners.
And it's just been great.
And what it does, too, is it expands our reach.
We're able to take, they give me the luxury of doing Q ⁇ As, as you know, with our regular guests.
And so it gives the guest a little more play.
We do a print Q ⁇ A for the newspaper with our regular guest, and it just helps spread the wealth around even more.
Let me say this.
If you're not familiar with the American Free Press, you ought to be.
And if you really want to save your brain cells and avoid depression, cancel your local newspaper subscription and replace it with the American Free Press and get some real news and some intelligence for a change.
It'll be no more expensive and 10 times, 100 times, 1,000 times more valuable.
And you'll be supporting good people who tell the truth.
And we're a part of that.
You'll be getting wonderful information that you won't get anywhere else.
The SPLC has always disparagingly called us the Nexus.
And I don't know about that, but we do work well with others, and we have always worked well with others.
You got that plus mark on your first grade report card that plays well with others.
Yeah, you did it.
Well, let me tell you some of the stuff that's been going on in American Free Press and Barnes Review.
And by the way, subscribe to both if you're not already.
I know a lot of you are.
But a couple of issues ago, we had a Q ⁇ A with Brad Griffin, issue before last with Warren Baylog.
So again, we're talking about our regular guests.
We get them in the paper as well.
And this issue in American Free Press that will be hitting mailboxes this week.
Perhaps you've already received yours.
If not, within the next couple of days, you'll get it.
Paul Angel, who is the editor that I work most closely with there, and he's just a long time guy there.
Great guy.
Very capable.
I mean, there is not a more professional publication than these two.
But he said, who do you want to do this week for your piece in AFP?
And I said, I was looking at this person.
This person would be good.
He said, how about we do this?
Because the AFP had a reporter at the TPC conference.
He said, why don't we interview you about the TPC conference?
I said, that sounds vainglorious.
I'd be honored.
But, you know, no, no, no, let's do that.
And it actually turned into a really nice, it was a 10-part Q ⁇ A like I would do, except the tables were turned, and it was AFP interviewing me about the history of the show.
And I have never seen something so succinct that covered the entire 20 years and 10 questions, and they did a great job putting it together.
And that's out right now.
And Jim Dowson, who I just mentioned, he's going to be featured in the next piece, and he'll be on the show next week.
So they should hit his appearance on TPC and the AFP interview with him should hit at about the same time.
These bi-weekly Q ⁇ As that we do.
And at the Barnes Review, and the current issue, which is the, for the love of Dixie, June, July issue of 2024, it has a Q ⁇ A with Sam Dixon, a lengthier Q ⁇ A than you would find in American Free Press with Sam Dixon.
It also includes my chapter in the Honorable Cause.
So if you didn't buy the book, if you get TBR, you can still read my contribution.
A little extra play there.
Coming up in the next issue of the Barnes Review, we have a long, a long interview with Reuben Caleb, the former member of parliament in Estonia.
And I had originally asked Ruben to do this Q ⁇ A for American Free Press.
And I said, I have a 2,000-word limit.
That's my max.
That's how much space I've got.
I said it's 2,000 words, including the questions.
So answer the questions, you know, a paragraph or two, be more than sufficient.
And I think somehow he read that as 20,000 words.
But it was so good.
I asked Paul Angel.
I said, Paul, this is a little bit longer to say the least.
And I said, do you want to break it up into two or three parts?
What do you want to do?
He said, James, this is so damn good.
We can't break it up.
We're going to just publish it all, but we're going to move it over to the Barnes Review where we have a little more space.
So that's coming out of the next.
He goes into geopolitical and sociopolitical and metapolitical nuances from the perspective of an Estonian with regards to Russia, Ukraine, Russian history, Estonian history.
It is unbelievably good.
And that's going to be in the next issue of the Barnes Review.
And the one after that, you know, they almost wiped those people out in the Soviets did in World War II and the aftermath.
We get into that.
We get into that with Ruben.
You got to subscribe to the Barnes Review to get it.
But yeah, why Estonians look at Russians kind of side-eyed?
Whereas, you know, we, I think most Westerners say Putin and Russia are the good guys and NATO and Washington.
And you, you know, the big mistake people make, like the Estonians, when they do that, they don't distinguish Russians from Jewish Bolsheviks who were actually running the Soviet Union.
Well, and, you know, you got some similarities going on now with what's going on in America.
Yeah, we're under the same domination now in America.
And in Ukraine, obviously that color revolution and Zelensky and all of that.
But we get into all of that with Ruben Caleb.
That's going to be the forthcoming issue of TBR.
We are everywhere we need to be.
We'll be right back.
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Folks, coming up at the top of the third and final hour, Dr. Kevin MacDonald back, one of our most frequently interviewed guests in the history of the program.
But it will be his first appearance this year.
I looked at the schedule and was aghast, but that's how busy we've been.
That's how busy we've been.
Normally, you couldn't go two months without hearing Kevin on the show.
And to my detriment, we've gone seven this year so far.
But we're going to get Kevin back on tonight.
We've got some really interesting topics and an unbelievable poll that we'll have Kevin touch on that touches on issues of the Holocaust and what people are thinking about that now.
So that's coming up in the third hour.
And we'll ask Kevin some questions that we asked our first hour guest and see if we get a different perspective or some similarities.
But anyway, we're talking about in the last segment some of the things that were recently published in American Free Press and Barnes Review and some forthcoming items that we'll have in the American Free Press and Barnes Review.
And it just continues to be an honor to work with these folks.
And so, yes, that being said, circling back to something a listener said last week about how we, the guests that we have on, can't believe we have certain guests on.
And certainly we have had a lot of guests over the years that you wouldn't expect would appear on a program that is so outspokenly pro-white.
But the thing is, these ideas are normalizing, and we played a role in that.
There's no doubt about it.
But it's one thing to have guests on, named guests, celebrity guests, whatever you want to call them.
Doing it without sacrificing your position on the issues.
That's the key.
And that's the thing that I'm most proud about.
It's not that we've had on this person, this person, talk to these people or work with these people, that we've done it unapologetically and without having to trim our sails.
And that is how you lead.
You bring people to your ideas because you are confident in them and you have no reason to back away from them.
And they can either get on board or not.
Or there can even be some disagreements on certain issues, but you can come together on the areas that you do have agreement on and work together on those.
And that's how you build a functioning movement that can deliver results.
And that's what we're trying to do.
And that reminds me of our ongoing special series that we are featuring intermittently this year, the TPC at 20 retrospective series.
We're not doing that tonight, but next week we will get back in.
And this has been fun for me to do with you, Keith, to revisit some of these classic interviews and take them piece by piece and infuse real-time current reaction and response and observations to some of these interviews like the ones we've done so far this year.
We're doing it once a month.
Drew Lackey, Anthony Cumia, Zelchko-Glasnovich, Walter Jones, the first sitting U.S. Congressman that ever appeared on the program, actor Sonny Landam, Donald Trump Jr.
Those are the ones we've done the first six months of the year.
We've got six more to do.
You got your mic down.
George Wallace Jr.
Don't forget him.
Yeah, well, we haven't featured him this year in this particular series, but yes, I mean, we've had a lot more, obviously, and more that we will get to.
We're only halfway through this series where one hour per month we go back and look at some of these interviews over the last 20 years.
We get people that other people either don't want or don't even think of to interview.
I think don't even think of would be the thing.
And it's not they don't think of them because they have nothing to contribute.
They have information that the media and the establishment in America does not want propagated to the people.
And we're the people that find those people and get them to make a record of their opinions, their insights, and what their take was on various and sundry, very important issues in our history.
And this is indispensable, quite frankly.
There's no one else doing it.
Well, and but we also find interesting people for a reason.
Like you mentioned the George Wallace Jr. interview.
Who has interviewed the son of George Wallace about, you know, for instance, Elvis' support of George Wallace?
You know, we talked about that the last time we did revisit that interview, which wasn't part of this ongoing 20th anniversary retrospective series.
We just did it randomly a year or two ago.
And the whole new movie about Elvis has him as this radical integrationist and left-winger.
The history of the Civil War.
I just did a presentation before a Southern Sons of Confederate veterans group about the true causes of the Civil War.
They have a narrative about the Civil War.
It's all about race.
It's all about slavery.
Same thing about Elvis.
He was all about race and all about civil rights.
And certainly he had black members in his band.
I mean, you know, obviously.
He did not hate black people.
But then on the other hand, they are lying to you, trying to make you think something other than what the truth of these particular historic events or historic people were.
And we do away with that.
We pull down the iron curtain, basically, and let people know the truth about Elvis.
Well, I mean, you know, Elvis had a hit record singing Dixie, for God's sake.
Now, unfortunately, he also sings Battle Hymn of the Republic in that particular trilogy.
But yes, and the fact that he supported George Wallace, nobody's reported on that.
And had George Wallace for president sign up in the front yard of Grayson.
He offered the Lisa Marie, his private jet, to the governor and his family anytime they wanted to go anywhere.
So at the height of Wallace's popularity as a segregationist.
So that's all the stuff over the 20 years.
These are just some of the conversations we've had.
One more thing.
A lot of people are celebrating anniversaries now.
I don't know if we've made that a trend, but I think people should pause and celebrate milestones because it's very difficult to make it.
It's very difficult to do what we do financially speaking.
And I was on the Countercurrents.
They had their 14th anniversary live stream a couple of weeks back, and I was on with Cyan and Greg Johnson and had a good time celebrating that with them.
The Barnes Review is now doing a special 30th year anniversary publication later this fall, and we're going to have some stuff in that.
Sam Dixon is going to write a tribute to Willis Cardo, who was the founder and the publisher, the original founder and publisher of both the American Free Press back in the 70s.
It was called the Spotlight back then.
They rebranded and changed their name to American Free Press in the early 2000s.
But he was also the founder of the Barnes Review.
It's going to be celebrating the 30th anniversary.
They were formed in 1994, so not quite as old as Spotlight American Free Review.
We really need to have people focusing on the predecessors, the people that slogged through and kept the flame alive back in the 50s, 60s, 70s and whatnot, before the internet, before it was easy to get this type of information out.
Thank heavens for the internet.
But before that, the people that did it made a great sacrifice, and they need to be recognized because they kept the eternal flame burning.
Halfway through this year, you look at it off to a quick start down there in Orlando.
We mentioned with Steve King early in the year, and then we had the Valentine's Day show.
And then a couple of weeks after that, we were into March Around the World, which was just its best rendition ever this year.
Confederate History Month, those are two very intense and comprehensive months, very busy.
Then you get into May.
We had our 20th anniversary conference in May.
We've been talking about it June and late June and early July.
We've had these trips in the last couple of weeks.
Great interviews every week on the program.
So it's certainly been busy, but I'll tell you this, folks, and I want to close this hour with this before we get to Kevin McDonald and finally get back to news.
I told you we were going to cover news this hour.
Fooled you.
I actually intended to, but I think this is important too.
And the things I was going to talk about with Keith, I'm going to move over to Kevin McDonald.
But I want to thank again everyone with a minute remaining this hour before we get back to news and current events with Dr. McDonald.
I want to thank you for everyone who supported TPC in the second quarter fundraising drive.
It is very tough out there right now.
It's not that our contributions have gone down so much, just how much more it costs to do the show.
Stamps are going up another five cents.
That might not sound like a lot to you, but to us, it's the difference of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars when we're doing that.
So 73 cents now, almost a dollar to send a stamp.
It costs thousands of dollars just to fundraise.
And we're also taking the show up to a new level.
We're trying to go out there and have more FaceTime with our audience.
And of course, all that travel costs money.
It does.
And we are living off the land, folks.
We've never received a bequest or a grant or anything like that.
I guess it's because, I don't know, we haven't asked.
Because we haven't sold out to get money from people who are alive, much less people who aren't.
But, you know, you can't take it with you, I guess that's for sure.
But in any event, the cost of doing this program has gone up dramatically in the last couple of years.
A dollar just doesn't take us as far as it used to.
In 2007, stamps were 41 cents.
This is just one thing.
You say 41 cents to 73 cents.
That's not a big deal.
It is when you're talking about the kind of bulk that we're talking about.
The cost of producing the program, every cost imaginable, printing cost, the cost for incentives.
We always want to send out a thoughtful gift.
I cannot receive something from you and not send you something back.
That's just my nature.
Nobody else sends out gifts in returns for contributions of a certain level or more like we do every quarter.
I have to do that to live with myself.
But the cost of everything have gone up.
All right.
We are in a little bit of duress.
I appreciate everyone who donated in the second quarter.
Our standing is not untenable, but it's always been touch and go.
I mean, it just always has been.
So if you are a listener of this program, and we see the numbers, and so we know there's a lot of people listening who aren't contributors.
Thank you for everyone who does contribute.
If you have not contributed to this program in a while, or perhaps even never before, I know the cost of living is out of control.
I think groceries have doubled in two years.
That's what the cost of running a show have increased also.
That's right.
A friend of my wife did a Walmart grocery order in January of 2022, two and a half years ago, $188.
Did the exact same order on the 4th of July, just push reorder, same items, nothing added, nothing taken away, almost $400.
I believe it.
I believe that it's going up that much.
I see the bills when my wife goes to the bottom.
That's why we need to defeat Biden or whoever the Democratic candidate is in the upcoming election.
I get it, folks.
Things are tough out there.
You've got to tighten your purse.
And if you're going to do it, your charitable giving is going to be the first thing to go.