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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome back, everybody.
Hour number two of three.
Last week of February.
Keith, does it even seem real that we are already nearly now three months into the new year?
I tell you, one-fourth of the way through the year.
Is it that much already?
I guess it will be.
Well, do you have to get through the third month before you can count that, or is it just at the beginning of the third month?
We'll count the number of days sometimes.
Well, in any event, we're still waiting for any manner of unrest and uncertainty heading into this pivotal election year.
And I was talking with Sam Dixon earlier today.
I'm letting, just bringing this up to allow our producer, the incredible Liz, to troubleshoot our guest.
And it looks like we're still working on that.
And Liz, if we have to get him on the phone as opposed to the hands-free version, that's fine.
But that actually caused me to lose my train of thought.
Sam Dixon.
Yeah, oh, talking to Sam Dixon.
Sam Dixon earlier today talking about the election year.
And I said, you know, I guess in some ways, if Trump wins, you know, a lot of our people are going to be placated.
And he said, well, we really win either way.
He demoralized and laughed so much if he wins, regardless of what he does.
If Trump is still in the picture, you're going to have that four years of chaos that the media will manufacture that's going to further polarize things.
And if he loses, it's just going to get so bad.
It's going to increase the polarization.
So in that way, I think, yes, we really can't lose.
The thing about Trump is he could be the second coming of Joe Biden, but it would discombobulate the left to such an extent that they would just, you know, go haywire.
So if your opinion is what mine is, and that is we have no future on this continent under the current trajectory and that our only hope for salvation, barring some deus machinery type of redemption, is secession.
Well, then how do you get there?
Increase polarization, increase friction.
Trump can certainly provide that by just breathing.
But even if he loses and is taken off the board, it's just going to get so bad with the Democrats stacking the courts and just everything else that they'll have under their thumbs for us that I think the polarization is going to increase either way.
And that's what Sam is saying.
We'll have such an alienated nation of people from red versus blue states that it will never be the same.
Well, it's already getting, it's already, I think, past the point of no return.
Some people may not realize that yet.
But anyway, let's get to our featured guest of the evening, Jason Kuna, is back, and he is a lifelong advocate for white well-being.
He is the creator of the Go Free Free Practice, the author of five books, an international speaker and content creator on more than 10 platforms.
Excuse me.
He proudly represents the white well-being activist-oriented community.
And we'll get him to plug all of his websites and contact information.
And there's a lot of them.
But let's first say hello again and welcome, Jason.
How are you tonight, my friend?
Oh, I couldn't be happier.
So glad to be here.
Thank you so much for the invitation.
And I couldn't be more excited.
I listened to the first hour of the show and really delighted for the totality of what we refer to as the white sympathetic sphere, those who are an explicit, those who are willing to acknowledge that race is at the heart of this, that we are under attack because we are born as white people, and that there's no way to escape that by way of abstractions like the rest of conservative America thinks that you can do.
And that's one of the reasons why we're seeing lower attendance at CPAC.
But I first want to say a huge congratulation to you, James, and Keith, and the 20 years.
I am just absolutely amazed.
Thank God you all have been hard at work.
Thank you so much for your service to white well-being, our people, the Southland, and God bless you.
And a big salute and celebration to your totality of your audience, who, you know, by pushing as they've been pushing year after year, have helped to influence, putting their shoulder into it, helped to influence this changing dialogue, these changing locations that we are seeing across the totality of the conservative movement.
This really what it is, is the resistance to our victimization, the resistance to anti-whiteism.
So a big thank you so much for your service and congratulations to the show and to everybody in the audience.
Well, thank you so much for that, Jason.
And I got to say, it's really a little bit disconcerting to realize how quickly those 20 years have passed.
But I want to say this to reciprocate, but in all sincerity, thank you for being part of the story for all of those years.
You know, I have known you for as long as this show has been, and you have certainly just done a lot of incredible work in your own right that has run parallel and complementary to what we're all doing here as a collective.
And I think that is something that we want to talk about.
Keith, you had a, when we were talking with Jason and Q before the show got started tonight, before this hour rather got started tonight, you had something that I wanted you to.
Well, it's basically this, that CPAC's loss in membership is basically our gain.
I really, you know, I don't want to throw cold water on this, but I don't think any of us really did much more than just make available an alternative voice for what a lot of people have been thinking and speaking about for years.
You know, for example, James went to a conference down in Florida recently and people came up to him and said, oh, he said, you know, I've been thinking just like this for years.
I mean, you're the first person I've heard or something.
See, there are a lot of people we haven't reached yet, but what we're saying, what you're saying, what we're saying, what others in our sphere are saying is just common sense.
And people have been hungering for common sense on racial issues for ages.
Yeah, I think that's absolutely unquestionable.
And I think the service that you and James are providing your audience, especially over the totality of the arc of these two decades, is invaluable.
And I know that there's an entire community that really appreciates you both.
And I just want to underscore the importance of that value that you provide to the community and then their ability to go out and echo and magnify these topics, these stories, and a different perspective than is controlled by Big Con Inc.
And that is CPAC.
That is all of these different organizations that we have known heretofore as monolithic and representative of the resistance to our victimization, our victimization as individual white men and women, Westmen, as we like to say, and our countries across the totality of the West.
And we have a lot of topics.
I mean, there's a lot of things going on now, and in particular, the white erasure.
And that being as poignant as it is, so salient as it is, enables a lot of white people to literally see the erasure of ourselves where it didn't require any longer.
It's increasingly not requiring any longer deep thinking or high IQ or the time just to do it.
And so many people that we don't have the time because every white man working a full-time job is has three intruders clinging to his back that he is supporting in addition to himself, his wife, and his family.
We simply don't have the time.
Things are getting easier and people are looking to alternatives.
And there is the conservatives, the conservative sphere, if you the implicit white sympathetic sphere, the white folk out there and even non-white folk who are conservative-minded and they want the West to remain the West.
They want America to remain America.
They know they're not baffled about whether or not this is an attack on white people.
They see every day that it's an attack on white people.
But the various dogs have a big amen corner, and they've just been waiting for something to say amen to.
I like the way you put that, Keith.
I mean, that's the thing, Jason.
Would you agree that if our correspondent on the ground, who's been there all week, okay, at CPAC, and this is 2024, I mean, this is, as we like to put it, the fight of the century until the next fight of the century, as far as political battle goes, I mean, this is a pretty big one.
The rematch between Trump and Biden, I mean, that's getting a lot of play.
It's got a lot of people excited or distressed on both sides, a lot of tension.
You know, certainly a much bigger game than Bush versus Kerry and Bush versus Gore and things from that era.
Obama versus Romney and McCain.
All right.
So, but the attendance is down, even though this is a much more media-driven election.
So, I mean, would you agree or disagree?
And why so?
In our assumption that the reason why CPAC would be depressed on a year like this with these two particular players in the media fervor being what it is is because the Republican base has moved beyond what CPAC is offering and to people like you.
Right.
Yeah, precisely.
I think it's a really puzzling point that this year is the biggest of all years of all of our lives because this is the final chance for a person, irrespective of Donald Trump and his proclivities or inclinations and as a businessman, what he'll be able to actually do and et cetera.
He is viewed as an outsider and he is kind of a wild card.
And more importantly, what he does for white America is he implicitly makes the average white person think proudly about themselves.
They think America, America is ours.
America is what we do.
And that's the great value that he provides.
This election coming up is really going to decide everything moving forward to a significant degree.
And you're right.
The fact that people aren't showing up there is a rejection of Big Con A.
We are going to great place to leave it, Jason.
Jason does it as good as anybody and better than most all.
We'll be right back with him.
And we're going to pick up right there on that question.
Stay tuned.
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You can call him the Big Kahuna if you so choose.
And I know, Keith, you do.
He is back with us.
And I want to pick up, I want to spend just another minute or two on this, Jason, and then we're going to get into some examples.
But again, Big Con, Con Inc., seems to be increasingly left behind by the Trump base, so much so that even their standard bearers are moving in the direction of our collective and of our shared community.
Keith?
Yeah, exactly.
I think that if you will not talk about this being a racial problem, a white problem, you're going to be like last week's newspaper.
It's not going to, you're not going to be part of the conversation that the American people want to have.
And I think we've got to welcome these people in.
I mean, whether you, it's impossible to handicap the degree of sincerity that these people may have.
Maybe they're coming over because that's where the base is.
They've got a started effort for the last 30 years to take people out of the racial zone and to discuss this in other terms, but it's a racial problem.
But first and foremost, and in final analysis.
And so when people do come late to the party, Jason, I mean, what do you do?
I mean, we're seeing this increasingly.
I think my opinion is you have to welcome them regardless of their degree of sincerity because the good news is people like you, people like we feature on this program week after week, year after year for now 20 years, are the reason that they're there.
We have moved the base.
Our collective has moved the base.
You've moved the base.
And so when people who were just as recently as three or four years ago in the case of Charlie Kirk were kicking people out of his meetings for saying the things that he's saying now, you have to just pat yourself on the back because you did that.
Well, precisely.
I mean, and I want to make sure that I thank Sam as well, all the hard work that he has done.
Absolutely.
Sam Bushman, here, here.
Yeah, without question, and helping to move that dial over all the years.
Really big salute to Sam and everybody working with Sam.
The problem has been, of course, when it comes to our victimization by the anti-whites, in huge measure, is this fear by your basic white person about the social morality.
The social morality of our day is this anti-white, immoral, moral imperative.
And this is the argument that trumps every logical argument, every reason-based argument, every evidence-based argument.
It always has and always will.
It's based in the retributive or retributive justice against Western kind.
And as a consequence, all conservative America does, all white people and non-white people who agree with us and would like the country to remain Western, all they do is lose over the totality of their lives.
It becomes just more and more patently painful for our people when we see this sort of impenetrable mindset of a lot of these conservative BitCon leaders when they refuse to acknowledge our victimization and they abstractionize it every single time.
But when it comes to the victimization of a non-white group, they've got no problem talking about race.
So just a quick example is conservative BigCon Inc. personalities have no problem talking about how the black race is so-called targeted for abortions.
Or even the Asians, even the Asians and the Indians.
Precisely.
It's a legacy from the civil rights movement, I think.
And it's something that I think people realize finally that we've got to throw overboard this sense of white guilt that was engendered in us through the civil rights movement.
No white guilt.
I mean, Jason is Mr. No White Guilt.
And to Keith's point, I mean, yes, I mean, race exists to the Republican Party and, you know, frankly, to the Southern Baptist Convention, as long as it's not the people that are either filling the pews or actually voting Republican, because even at the Republican National Church, even at the Republican National Convention and even at the Southern Baptist Convention, you will have breakout groups for every race and ethnicity under the sun, except for the people who are actually there.
Jason, back to you.
So race does exist.
Precisely.
And this refusal to acknowledge our own victimization because of this sense that it is immoral to do so, to even identify white people, is what has held back resistance to our victimization.
So, for example, you have this Avin Krishna at IBM CEO openly saying that you will be bonused if you only hire non-white people and you will have pay deducted if you hire white people.
And conservative BigCon Inc. turns it into an abstraction and says, no, it's supposed to be about merit-based.
It's supposed to be best man gets the job.
And then they want to open the rule book.
They see white people winning, and then they say that it's nothing.
You know, see, it's like that recent non-action by the Supreme Court on the Thomas Jefferson magnet school in the D.C. area.
It was all right to talk about it when it was hurting Chinese people, but when they thought that white people might be in it, they just don't want to come out and say we're going to apply merit across the board because they know that if they do that, white people are going to be the net beneficiaries of all this.
Well, precisely.
And certainly when it comes to the conservatives, and that's an admission by anti-whites, by the way.
When they say, like we had a couple of months ago, a MSNBC personality, I think it was Reed or something, her name, said that, well, they want to get rid of these policies that discriminate against white men so that then all of these jobs end up in the hands of white men.
That's an admission.
That if the playing field is level, that white guys are going to kick ass or kick butt.
And when it comes to the conservatives, though, the basic conservative out there, you know, just muddling along, they feel it is immoral to even mention us.
Suddenly they'll say things like, it's not about race, and I don't see race.
And, you know, bottom line is their handicap doesn't prevent anti-whites from victimizing us.
And white people increasingly across America, across the West, indeed, they are noticing this.
They're noticing the blanket discrimination, blatant discrimination, and saying, why aren't you mentioning us?
Why aren't you brave enough to mention us while you mention everybody else?
So the house of the conservative resistance is metaphorically burning down.
They're in a liminal stage.
And it has a lot to do with numerous factors that we can certainly talk about with the time we have, but the fact that they continually fail.
Another big reason for it is a little bit more abstract, but it is that for the longest time, conservative-minded people in the United States saw the world through the lens of leftists and themselves.
And then any alternative to themselves, anything harder than Big Con Inc., was neo-Nazism, which they reject out of hand.
And this is something that I've argued about for many, many, many years.
And we now have the research of Ashley Jardina of Duke and Mason, no friend of the white race, but nonetheless, her research proves us right that there is a massive number of white people, up to 40% in her studies, that have a white identity, a positive, proud white identity.
But as soon as you introduce racial animus, as soon as you introduce disliking other groups on the basis of their birth, they disavow that identity and they want nothing to do with it.
Well, the kind of concepts that we are pushing in our community and are being spread generally, the kind of concepts are ones that center our people, that focus on ourselves, that instead of saying this group is bad, it's saying no more victimizing us.
And that's the kind of thing that the vast majority of white people can get behind.
No more victimizing us.
That's why anti-whitism is so powerful using anti-white.
White erasure, another one of our five key concepts that we push, anti-white narrative, another one that we push, are easily adopted and work as a curative contagion.
People, they take it, they see how useful it is in defense of themselves, and they pass it on.
There's much more to the sort of science of it of how we reclaim our destiny, kind of backing our brothers and sisters into an individual well-being by way of our group's well-being.
And that's effectively what these concepts do.
But it is the strength that is changing the day.
It is the main driver, along with some other things like the ineptitude, the scandals out of BigCon Inc., and The continued losses to anti-whites and the anti-white narrative that they simply can't get.
I mean, and we have what how many anti-white Jewish people do we need at the head of our resistance to our victimization that are all for like little Benny, Lil Benny, all for our border being wide open.
Who cares about the white race?
Who cares if America becomes brown?
But he will absolutely not permit Israel to become black.
He's all for removing the black Jews from the country of Israel, a country that he, for whatever reason, identifies with.
Do you really got Keith Hunt bothered now?
I can tell you.
I'm looking at him.
He's over here.
Tropic at the bit.
Look, Jason, I feel like I ought to be the poster child for white erasure and white victimization.
I was born in 1951 when I was 18.
That was 1969, the first year of affirmative action.
I'm now 73, and they still can't bring themselves to disavow affirmative action when it gets down to the nitty-gritty.
Where'd you want to go to school, Keith?
And what happened?
Come on.
Okay, I went to, I applied to go to Vanderbilt Law School.
I had five beta kappa, and I had 170 out of 180 on the LSAT.
And I lost out to a fellow black student that had below a 50, a 150 on the LSAT, and a 2-4 grade point average.
But Old Miss Law School is still better than Lamo and Owen.
Yeah, well, Lamar and Owen doesn't have a law school.
But all I'm saying, though, is this: you know, this has been going on for a long time.
This seed has taken a long time to germinate.
And I hope we're right on the cusp of seeing a new day when people can actually claim their racial status as victims and do something about it.
We will be right back.
Fantastic conversation, as it always is with Jason Kuna.
Stay tuned.
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Welcome back, everybody.
Jason Kuna, our anchor of tonight's program.
Thank you, Keith.
He is our featured guest of the evening.
Learn more at nowhiteguilt.org, nowhiteguilt.org.
There, you'll find the welcome message: everything good in the West is being destroyed.
People of all races are suffering.
And it's so obvious to the entire world, even Vladimir Putin in his speech.
You know, America today is not the America of 1950s.
And as the Bible says, do not be deceived.
You shall know them by their fruits.
Can a good tree bring forth good fruit?
Can a corrupt fruit?
Can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit?
Therefore, by their fruits, you shall know them.
Look at public education after Brown versus Board of Education.
Has that change been good or corrupt fruit?
Everything else in society follows in line with this, and nobody in the Republican Party has the guts to talk about.
Maybe.
Well, they're getting there.
Well, look, Marjorie Taylor Greene on September 11th of last year called for secession.
We're going to talk to Jason about this and find out exactly how much good is being done in just a moment.
But I want to just continue to read very quickly from knowiteguilt.org.
People of all races are suffering.
Destruction is accomplished in the name of retributive justice against white people.
Men and women from every walk of life are using the simple.
You know what it is?
It's gaslighting, making people feel guilty about something they have no guilt about.
That's what the whole civil rights movement was about, making people feel guilty about racial segregation.
Racial segregation is naturally normal.
Birds of a feather flock together.
But again, for some reason, it's just a classic case of gaslighting, in my opinion.
Anyway, men and women from every walk of life are using the simple go-free method that Jason has come up with in conversations and debates, and they are having victories against this destruction that they never imagined were possible.
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Jason, back to you and this conversation.
How much are things beginning to change?
Now, you can't see all of the change as being readily apparent, but with regard to people beginning to come over to it's at least being talked about now where it wasn't even something that you could mention in polite society before, but we haven't won the argument yet.
Give us some examples of that, Jason.
Well, I can speak directly to, and thank you for sharing my website and where folks can find more information about the work that we do specifically in our community.
And I'm really proud to be representing my white well-being community today.
A number of champions.
I salute them all.
The world should know their names.
That's how proud I am of the work that they're doing.
What we do is we target, we identify, and then we refer to it as swashing on for swashbuckling to make it a little bit fun.
We identify content creators.
And this is to answer your question because it's sort of one in the same in how the process, the mechanism works.
So we have an outreach team.
And if folks would like to be a part of that, they can show up on Sunday, 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time when we have our Go Free gatherings.
And you'll look it down into the description and you'll see the link for the outreach team.
These are dedicated activists and all donating their time.
Nobody's paid.
I wish we could.
But we identify individuals that for various reasons, either they have a large audience and there's a possibility that they could end up using the concepts that we swash on them, that we push to them and to their audience.
And so what ends up happening is we and the totality of the white sympathetic sphere, everybody out there, everybody in this audience that's listening now who ends up in these audiences and using these concepts that we are sharing here today, what ends up happening is that influences in one of two ways these content creators.
Now, we can be easily censored.
I mean, we are.
I just had, I was literally robbed by the Gemini cryptocurrency exchange.
So the things that they can do to us are just limitless virtually.
But we can identify the content creators that are larger, content creators like Dr. Carol Swain, which we've had on, Mark Dice, Nicholas DeSanto, international conservative comedian, we've had him on.
And Representative Josh Shriver, a huge victory we celebrated to the heavens.
He was attacked in, what was it, Michigan?
He was attacked.
He's a representative in the state.
And just sort of milquetoast sort of response, attacked as a neo-Nazi and everything.
We immediately moved into his thread and wrote private messages to him.
He responded to the private messages and then immediately was using white erasure.
Now, this is a guy, by the way, this is a guy, by the way, who has said that there's only one race, the human race, and so there are no individual races and this sort of thing.
Now, he's talking about you're white erasing us.
And that's something that everybody can, we've been Jack Pasobic completely changing the way he discusses our victimization.
Elijah Schaefer, Ashley St. Clair, Matt Walsh, Donald Trump Jr., we have saying anti-white, anti-whitism, white erasure.
Hold on right there.
Because Jason, so much credit has to be given to you on this, and I have to be frank about that.
Anti-white, I mean, you were doing that before we were doing that.
Bob Whitaker was doing it in the mid-2000s.
There were some other people doing it.
But white erasure, you know, that term anti-white, I mean, we were always pro-white on this program, of course, but the term anti-white, I mean, you were a pioneer in that.
White erasure, that I think you could trademark.
I don't know of anyone who did that before you.
He has a lot of bon motto.
He really does.
He has his own vernacular.
Vernacular.
Yeah, I mean, he does.
He vocabulary.
He does.
And it is very positive.
And there's a whole method behind it.
You've got to go to knowwhiteguilt.org to learn more.
We don't have the time to cover it here.
But white erasure.
But I got to get to, and we'll give the latest example from InfoWars in just a moment.
But the fact that Charlie Kirk has come so far in just the last four years from kicking people out of his meetings for bringing up topics like we're discussing right now to on Martin Luther King Day of this year doing a very wonderful article and exposition on who Martin Luther King really was.
I mean, how do you account, Jason, for that radical amount of transformation in four years?
It's the work of your audience.
It's the work of our outreach team and solo activists as well that are involved.
Putting pressure on, and it's a positive pressure on content creators, on people who are going to talk about socio-political matters vis-a-vis our victimization, compels them.
For example, when we reach out and we very pointedly, very specifically, calculatingly incorporate anti-whitism, white erasure, anti-white narrative into questions so that they are written in a way that it's assumed that everybody talks this way.
You should know this too.
This makes perfect sense.
That's one of the angles.
The other angle is the swashing through the audience.
So what's happening for people, like you're talking about, Jack Pesobic and others, what's happening for them is the locution that the locations that their audience is using is changing.
And it's changing in a way that they can adopt and must adopt in order to continue to speak the same language of their audience or run the risk of losing some of that audience.
So you can't go into their audiences and say a bunch of nasty things about other races of man and believe that others in the audience or enough are going to take it up and then that cause the content creator to change the way he or she discusses our victimization because there are other forces at work,
either behind them, it could be pay, it could be censorship, et cetera, that are going to prevent them from adopting such locations, such a lexicon, such dialectics.
But when you share ideas, and like as we're seeing across all of these people's chats, when you share ideas that are based in love, based in a focus on us, based in a demand to end our victimization, They are able and, in fact, they must adopt the language of their audience or run the risk of losing them.
That's why we're seeing this change.
Yes, yes.
That's what we're seeing.
Jason, pardon the interruption, my friend, but that's where we're at now.
And you can see it.
It is observable in real time how much not just our own collective, our own cause, our own movement has moved.
I mean, we've always been there.
I can't even say that we've necessarily moved, but the conservatism incorporated is moving because they have to keep up at the base.
Now here I say this, let me say this quickly before we get off the topic.
It's the 800-pound gorilla on the living room sofa that the conservatives have been endeavoring for probably about 70 years to have nobody notice.
Well, it's been noticed, and when people actually hear people speaking about it and legitimizing it, I mean, it's like a breath of fresh air to them.
Well, here's what I know.
Now more than ever, I feel as though, Jason, conditions are becoming favorable for our movement to make massive gains.
You couldn't have done this one or two decades ago when we first got started.
But people like you and I and Keith and everybody who's interviewed on this program year after year have faithfully and arduously toiled in the vineyards.
And I think the fruits of our shared labor are now beginning to present themselves.
Tall Oaks from Little Acorns Grove.
Holding the line without compromise.
And it was a lonely assignment for a long time, but the dam is beginning to break.
And I look forward to years of advancement together.
And of course, a lot of people have been responsible for that.
But what you're seeing now, Jason, is the fact that some of the things which used to be taboo and used to only be discussed in our circles have now entered into the mainstream conservative consciousness over just the past couple of years.
Issues like nationalism, secession, journalists being the enemy of the people, abolishing the FBI, black-on-white crime, the great replacement, the term anti-white, white advocacy in general, things like opposing affirmative action.
Negatives that come from expanding the influence of black people and reducing the influence of white people in our institutions, in our politics, in our daily lives.
All of this, up to and including attacking the SBLC and the ADL.
Jason, any of those things that I just rattled off, you wouldn't have seen two, three, four years ago.
Now you're seeing it not just from talking heads like Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh et al., but from sitting United States congressmen.
I mean, this is a pretty substantial transformation.
Sea change.
It is.
Yeah, it absolutely is a sea change.
And I was getting really inspired there, James, especially when you said years of advancement together.
I'm really looking forward to that because the argument of worse is better.
The reality is that it's never better.
We can look to the cities, we can look to Rhodesia, we can look to South Africa.
It's never better unless there is an escape, unless there are tools that we can use to change the destiny that anti-whites have written for us that we're seeing in this Google AI generator, Gemini image generator, where they're quite literally the AI just reflecting what its owners wanted to do, already completely white erasing the white race.
So their outcome is visible there, and the celebration of that.
If they leave it normal, it does, you know, white race comes out loud and clear as being superior.
So they have to work assiduously to try to stop what is natural and normal.
Or if not superior, at the very least, existing, which even then has a bridge too far for them.
Precisely, James.
That's exactly what it is.
Anti-whitism and all of these afterbirth ideologies or names that they give it, whether it's DEI or DIE, as we like to say, or any of these others, they all are at their root anti-white.
They all victimize us in various ways.
And one of the things that I continually argue is that our expression onto the world is this Western culture.
And Western culture produces Western civilization, i.e. the countries that we have given names to with these invisible borders, unfortunately too invisible nowadays, but these invisible borders that we have.
These creations.
These are the best civilizations there are, undoubtedly.
And everybody acknowledges that, and they acknowledge it with their feet by coming here.
Well, I mean, it's very clear that that's the case, that so much of the world points their feet toward the countries that we produce.
But the bottom line is that if we view, if we begin to view, and I think this is part of the trend of where we are moving as a people, viewing that what we produce, what we project onto the world is us.
It's not just a statue.
It's not just history.
It's not just a more or our view of how we believe that criminal justice should be applied to society.
Those things are us.
And when we begin to defend those things as personal attacks on ourselves and from that place of love, we do it then with righteous indignation.
We do it with passion.
And that is at its very core.
What is finally overcoming the hesitancy in so much of the white population to run afoul of this social more, this anti-white, immoral moral imperative that it's wrong, it's immoral to prevent the victimization of white people because in certain, all the reasons thereafter it is well, the real reason is Jason, that if you don't keep white people down, they will grow and prosper and dominate.
They've got to do some something to handicap us.
Well, you know, the fact of the matter is going back to the fundamentals, the fact that Even by so-called conservative institutions like the RNC and the Southern Baptist Convention, that every race has a right to exist and be proud of who they are and acknowledge their ancestors and their culture except for whites.
That's just not going to fly.
Keep those cards and letters and money rolling into the Southern Bandits.
That's just two examples.
I mean, you could have a lot more.
But I've got two questions for you, Jason.
Very quickly.
We only have nine minutes remaining.
How fast is this hour going with Jason Kuna?
That's what an interview with him can do.
But if time permits, and it's really getting tight now, I have to give you some credit here as well.
Harrison Smith of InfoWars, this is one of the shows on Alex Jones Networks, obviously.
He went on air a few days ago and commented that AI, artificial intelligence, has an anti-white bias and will lead to white erasure.
Jason, white erasure, you there is nobody else that has ever said that that I know of than you, and that has entered into the popular consciousness.
Bravo.
Well, there are no royalties being paid to him.
No, it's the work of this community, the outreach team and the solo actors.
They're the ones who are making it happen.
It's the folks in Y'all's community that are expanding it, where they end up.
And I know there's some contention when it comes to the concept of white erasure in some circles versus some other comments that have not been successful in the past, some other concepts that are, that is.
But this is demonstrating that these concepts work, that normal folks like Donald Trump Jr. can very easily get messages from our community, from our outreach team.
Jason.
And repeat that.
That's the thing.
Exactly.
Donald Trump Jr. went from soliciting, excuse me, I want to give plausible deniability here, but the record is that the Donald Trump campaign of 2016 solicited an interview for Donald Trump Jr. on this radio program, and he gave a great interview, and we had a great time.
But then the campaign ran from it.
But it went from that in 2016 to him saying the exact same things that you're saying, Jason.
I mean, that happened.
That's incredible.
After that came out, I mean, they ran like a scalded dog from James, but now they're embracing it.
Well, if not embracing, they're certainly saying a lot of the same things.
And that's the thing that matters, Jason.
Not who gets the credit, not who's friends with who.
The fact that our cause wins, our people win.
And I've got one more thing for you along those lines, I guess I should say.
But the fact that Alex Jones's network is now using the term white erasure, which as far as I'm concerned, is a trademark and copyright of Jason Kuna and nowhiteguilt.org.
But last week, I just saw this, and I guess I saw this as good news.
The headline is that Russia added Senator Lindsey Graham to its terrorist and extremist list.
So, you know, apparently Russia has a list of only 12,000 individuals that are declared to be terrorists and extremists.
The SBLC has many, many, many times more than that.
In fact, I have to go to the SBLC list every year to make sure everybody's getting a Christmas card from us.
And of course, Jason, you and Keith are on that list.
But in any event, the fact that Russia has added Lindsey Graham to its terrorist list is, I take a little Schotenfreude in that.
But last week, we had Sam Dixon on, and it was an expert two-hour conversation on the Vladimir Putin Tucker Carlson interview.
And I got to ask you, Jason, because you are a commentator par excellence, if you're conducting that interview with Putin, where do you go?
Wow.
Great, great question.
I would have done that completely differently than Tucker ended up doing.
I thought he looked amateurish at best and outside of his league.
And in my opinion, with Putin.
He missed opportunities to strike gold for us.
I would have asked, and let me say that.
We already know where.
No, the thing is, he gave us a skinny about what why Russia feels that they should have a claim on Ukraine.
I would wish to have asked him, who do you think is driving our involvement in Ukraine?
All right, all right.
But Jason, what would you have asked?
Well, I mean, I think that I definitely would have been much more respectful.
I'm not a Putin fan.
Putin has been in office and in power in Russia, it feels like, for generations.
And he's never said anything about our victimization, which means that he must condone it to some degree, or the other powers that he contends with are.
You think Orbin has been better?
You think Victor Orbin's been better?
Because he has mentioned specifically the nature of the white race.
Yes, yeah, without question.
Putin could have very easily used that opportunity.
His primary argument is the Russian people, naturally.
Secondary targets.
Only 52% white, right?
Surely more than that.
You take in all these Soviet satellites.
Well, I don't think of them as when I think of Russian, but who knows?
Well, he could have used the victimization of the white race, the founding stock of the West.
He could have used this discrimination, this persecution, which is blatant and tangible, to driven home an argument about the immorality of the system across the West that would have had an effect in the states.
It would have radically changed things.
I think he probably didn't because these other anti-white oligarchs in the world, that might have been a bridge too far.
And he's already in quite a competition with them over where the border is going to be relative to Russia.
So I think that he's, I would have, if I had been in Tucker's position, I probably would have driven for his opinion on that discrimination on Western kind across the West, but also in the United States, and his opinion on that persecution.
Jason Bricks, for example, is a perfect example.
The Iranians don't have any trouble identifying themselves as Muslim and Arab.
The Chinese have no problem identifying themselves as being for the Han Chinese.
But the one white guy in the group is too coy to identify his base.
And, you know, that's a perennial problem cropping up again.
Part of the anti-white narrative and what we have, the victimization that has been inflicted on us, this white guilt, compels us to disavow all, to disavow our well-being, to disavow our children's well-being, to disavow the well-being of our elderly, to disavow our creations.
And then they wonder at the end of the day how it is that anti-whites are able to say to us, you have no culture and white people have nothing to say in response.
Well, you've disavowed it all so that you wouldn't hurt the feelings or feel bad or offend this social morality that is the anti-white immoral imperative.
Sorry?
Or catch flag, basically.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
If you stand up for white people, they will be vilified.
Precisely, because of the breach of the sort of moral code.
And that's where, that's where, as I said, we've got like a minute, I guess, left.
That's where the real fight is.
The intellectual battle, the moral battle is at the moral imperative.
Anti-whitism is a psychological warfare.
That's what it is.
It has undermined our churches, it's undermined our lodges, our governance.
It's gaslighting.
It's basically making us feel guilty about something we should feel no guilt for.
NowhiteGuilt.org.
That's it.
Jason, final word to you.
We got about 30 seconds.
Thank you so much for everything you're doing.
I and my community are doing our small part, and we are proud to be able to be a part of a wider resistance to our victimization.
God bless both of you and Sam, Bushman, as well, and this entire audience.
Hey, no small part from you, my friend, but it is all in part of a cause greater than ourselves, our greater collective.
And thank you for doing the part that you do.
And we're all in this together, and it's great to have you tonight.
Keep your shoulder to the wheel.
Amen.
Jason Kuna, everybody, knowwhiteguilt.org catches YouTube show every Saturday afternoon, early evening.
And again, all the information is there at knowitegilt.org.
Love you, Jason.
Talk to you again soon.
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