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	You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
	The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
	And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
	Well, Keith, that is, of course, the Mermaids, and that's M-U-R-M-A-I-D-S with their one and only hit, Popsicles and Icicles.
	I thought it's certainly appropriate for the weather this week.
	How about this weather, Keith Alexander?
	And welcome, everybody.
	No matter how cold and snowed in or iced under you may be, those polar plunges from the Arctic have done a number on us.
	And it sure has been beautiful, though.
	I've enjoyed it.
	This is Saturday night, January the 20th.
	We'll keep you warm.
	Gather around the radio, build a fire.
	What do you say, Keith?
	Well, I know your kids enjoyed all of this.
	We have been out in the snow playing and sledding and snowball fighting and all of that every single day.
	Every single day.
	You got to take full advantage of your opportunities when you're in Memphis because you don't get that many of them.
	But I mean, we had a full week of it.
	Well, let me read something to you.
	I'm going to read to you one of the biggest lies ever told.
	It's the motto of the United States Post Office.
	Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.
	Folks, I am telling you, that is not true.
	Not at all.
	It snowed in Memphis last Sunday.
	If you're listening to the show live tonight on Saturday, January the 20th, that was nearly a week ago.
	And the mail has not run since.
	A major city like Memphis, a full Monday through Saturday with no mail delivery and no garbage pickup, a full week completely shuttered of basic civic services.
	I have never seen that before.
	Now it snowed.
	How many inches did we get?
	Four or five last week?
	Something like that.
	I mean, it wasn't a blizzard.
	It was not a foot of snow or anything like that.
	It was a lot of fun.
	It's beautiful.
	I love it.
	I love cold weather.
	I love the ice.
	I love the snow.
	But for a major city to be shut down for a week, that's just something else.
	Well, you know the reason for that.
	We discussed that.
	And I'll go into it if you want to.
	I think everybody knows.
	But nevertheless, I mean, how are you supposed to do business?
	How are you supposed to?
	Well, see, you know, you cannot keep up a first world community with a third world population and particularly government jobs.
	The particular group we're talking about loves government jobs.
	They don't think it's a real job unless it's a job that you don't have to worry about productivity or profitability in.
	And that's what back in the day when I was a teenager, back in the 60s, for example, we didn't have this problem.
	You know, you'd have a heavy snow and the streets would be cleaned off the next day.
	Yeah, not this time.
	And nevertheless, I guess it was fitting that it happened on the week of Martin Luther King Day.
	They did another sanitation strike, and the post office even got involved in it this time.
	And so I asked Keith actually at our pre-show supper tonight.
	He said today, Saturday, was the first day his mail has run all week, but it still isn't running in the suburbs.
	And you live in Midtown Memphis.
	I mean, you live on a major thoroughfare.
	I tell you what.
	Cold weather also is an aversion to this group we're talking about.
	You know, all of this stuff, you just cannot keep up the standards of pre-Martin Luther King America.
	I think it's ironic that it happened on the week of Martin Luther King Day because, you know, it just shows you, points out how bad things have gotten since the civil rights movement.
	Public education has gone down the drain.
	Public services like sanitation and postal service have gone down the drain.
	And we could probably make a list as long as you're on all the things that have deteriorated in American life, particularly American urban life since the 60s and Martin Luther King.
	All right.
	Well, anyway, I sent out a bunch of letters last week, and God only knows if they made it, if they penetrated the ice curtain here.
	I talked to a friend in Northern Mississippi, and he said his mail hadn't been running all week either.
	It's just right across the state line.
	But any event.
	All right, so let me tell you what's coming up tonight.
	Our lamentations are over.
	It has been beautiful, though.
	I love it.
	I like the bitter cold, but I also like, you know, basic functioning government.
	Well, the thing is, I've got these old habits of, you know, getting out and getting something done and going to work.
	And it's difficult.
	But after a couple of days, I just got used to it, and I just hung in to, you know, in the warmth and whatnot and found a way to spend my time, entertain myself, or get some work done.
	Keep those pipes running, too, ladies and gentlemen.
	I hope none of you learned that the hard way.
	But let me tell you what's coming up tonight.
	That being said, tonight, we're going to welcome back David Zuddy to the program right after our first break this hour.
	He'll be rejoining us.
	He is the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
	He made his debut appearance on the program last fall, late summer, early fall.
	He's going to be reporting on his organization's recently conducted polls concerning foreign policy, non-interventionism, and the draft.
	Very important work going on there by the Homeland Institute.
	So we'll re-familiarize yourself with that organization.
	And it certainly needs to be a website you visit often and support.
	Later in the broadcast, I'm going to unveil a special series that we're going to be running intermittently throughout the year, TPC at 20, a retrospective.
	Now, during this special series, we're going to be revisiting clips from some of the most iconic interviews we've ever conducted over the past two decades with fresh reaction and commentary.
	So you're not going to be getting like a best of hour where we play something from the can.
	No, you're going to be getting clips of best of interviews with live reaction and response from yours truly and Keith Alexander.
	We're going to do this once a month for the next 12 months throughout our 20th year anniversary celebration.
	And when we have those months where we do the special series already, Confederate History Month, March Around the World with all the international guests, we're going to have this series be interwoven in with those.
	So you'll have a Southern guest in April that we'll revisit and an international guest in March, in addition to the regular programming we'll be doing in those two months.
	So anyway, I think it'll be a lot of fun.
	I think it'll be a lot of fun, especially for people who are new to the show.
	I mean, after all these years, people are still tuning in for the first time every week.
	Every month we hear from new people that certainly weren't around five years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, 20 years ago.
	So we're going to have a lot of fun resuscitating some of these interviews.
	And the one we're going to revisit tonight is probably, well, I don't know.
	We've had some pretty big ones, but it's definitely one that gets a lot of attention in terms of the long-ago archives, Keith.
	Well, thank goodness we did that back then and had those archives because a lot of these people have passed on.
	That's right.
	And if we hadn't interviewed them, they would not be interviewed and there would not be any information from them.
	And believe me, for example, in the civil rights movement, there was so much by the mainstream and they dominated all of the news about it.
	But there was another side that you never heard, and we got a lot of those people interviewed.
	That's right.
	We had a nice run of historical interviews.
	I mean, people, everything from World War II veterans to, you know, for the Axis, of course, and in this case, is what we're talking about.
	And then Officer Drew Lackey, who booked Rosa Parks.
	How many people can say they put both Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King in prison?
	We got that police chief.
	Well, that's what we're talking about.
	Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
	But talking about, you know, you've got the idea that the Selma Bridge incident was all police victimizing these poor angelic black guys.
	These were people armed with straight razors and other types of weapons that were injuring policemen.
	Well, and we've talked.
	I've never heard that.
	Well, we heard about it because we're one of the few people who ever put these people on the air.
	There was another side to that.
	Can you believe it?
	That was completely shut out by the press.
	I want to read one email that came in after last week's show, and then we're going to get to our featured guest of the evening, David Zutty.
	This listener writes a fascinating interview with Brother Nathaniel last week, particularly his mentioning that President Putin always seats the head of the Russian Orthodox Church in the front row of the Duma when giving a major speech.
	A piece of trivia information that I discovered about Alexander Kerensky, who led the Russian provincial government after Tsar Nicholas II's abdication, Kerensky died in New York in 1970.
	I did not know this.
	The local Russian Orthodox churches in New York City refused to grant Kerensky burial rights because of his association with and that they largely saw him as responsible for the Bolsheviks seizing power.
	A Serbian Orthodox Church also refused burial rights.
	Kerensky's body was flown to London, where he was buried at the non-denominational Putney Vale Cemetery.
	Full marks to the Orthodox Church.
	Well, that's very interesting because I remember in the 60s going to Nashville, Vanderbilt University had a symposium and he was the featured speaker.
	You know, he had in between Tsar Nicholas and let's say Trotsky and Lenin, he was the head of the Russian government.
	He was a socialist too, but he wasn't as extreme as Lenin, for example.
	We got to take a quick break.
	I hear the music.
	We'll be back with our featured guest from the Homeland Institute, David Zutty.
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	Welcome back, everybody.
	Now, with us, David Zuddy, an attorney in California.
	He has a BA from in political science from the University of California, San Diego, and a J.D. from Chapman University's Dale E. Fowler School of Law.
	Before studying law, David served six years in the United States Air Force as an airborne linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant.
	David, great to have you back tonight.
	Hi, James.
	It's great to be here.
	It's very exciting.
	It's a little terrifying what's going on with current events, but it's definitely exciting too.
	Well, you certainly, the work of your institute, which came onto the scene last year and has already done some profound studies, helps us understand and navigate and to better prepare our path forward.
	So let's talk just a little.
	I'm sorry, go ahead, David.
	Indeed, it does.
	One of the, after our first three polls, we took a little break towards the end of the year and then, of course, the whole disaster happened with Gaza and Israel and Palestine.
	And it seemed like it was very sad seeing Christmas happen with a war on the horizon.
	What could have been a lot, what was a lot, what is ongoing a lot of bloodshed in Gaza.
	In my opinion, this is a genocide that's being carried out by Israel.
	But even more dreadful than that is the danger of a regional conflict or even World War III because everyone's getting involved now.
	This has exploded into the Houthis.
	There's Iran.
	And so this really begs the question, could this escalate?
	And so that's what inspired the first poll for 2024, which was trying to figure out where does the public stand on issues of non-interventionism, Gaza, and a draft.
	And a draft's important because if this escalates, well, there might be a draft again.
	Like in World War I.
	This is Keith.
	Let me warn you about the situation.
	We have about a, I don't know, three or five second lag between when we speak and when things come across.
	We just need to keep that in mind so we don't talk over each other.
	But let me say that I think that they really have picked the wrong people to pick on with the Arabs.
	The Arabs never forget.
	Look at the Crusades, for example.
	We would win and take over the Holy Land 100 years later, 50 years later, whatnot, they'd take it back time after time.
	And it was not, you know, they will not forget.
	They'll keep coming.
	And they've got a lot of people, and they have not learned to be beholden to the Jews the way that our politicians are and other Western nations like Germany and Britain and whatnot.
	And that's why you're getting all these protests from people like the Palestinians and Arabs, Muslims, and whatnot at Harvard and Yale.
	They have not been paper-trained in the etiquette of politics in America now, which is that the Jews are sacrosanct and you never try to cross them.
	And seeing these big demonstrations against Israel is, to me, heartening.
	Well, that's anecdotal.
	Let's find out what the methodology suggests, and let's get right down to this Homeland Institute poll.
	Before we get into this one, now this one dealt primarily with foreign policy, non-interventionism, and the draft, among other related topics.
	David, remind us just as quickly as you can the purpose of the Homeland Institute.
	Just a quick refresher for the audience.
	Sure.
	So the Homeland Institute, our goal is to oppose multiculturalism and globalism and look for humane, alternative, and workable solutions.
	And usually we're focused more on domestic policy due to that, but this is one of those incidents where foreign policy would affect domestic policy because we'd be requiring Americans to go fight for another nation's borders, Israel's borders, while our border is wide open and we're in debt and inflation is out of control.
	So this is not, in my opinion, you have to be America first, and that requires being America first, not Israel first.
	I know Nikki Haley thinks otherwise, but she is wrong.
	All right, David, let me ask you this.
	One of the things that makes the Homeland Institute so incredibly interesting to me is the fact that it conducts these polls.
	Now, I would just ask, for my own curiosity, and perhaps the audience would share this curiosity, nobody on our side is doing this.
	Nobody on the right is doing this.
	How do you conduct a scientific poll?
	What's the methodology that goes into it?
	How do you find the respondents?
	Who do you call?
	Just quick on that, and then we're going to get to these new findings.
	Sure.
	So I don't actually call people.
	I use online polling, which is the more, it's the way that's going more mainstream.
	It's what a lot of pollsters use because people just don't answer their phones anymore.
	Also, it's easier to control for different things.
	And this is what's called a scientific survey.
	So right now I'm polling white American registered voters.
	And I make sure that this population actually matches up to what that would look like in real life in regards to education, party affiliation, ideology, like how far conservative or how far liberal, age, gender, some other issues.
	Most importantly, BLM support and Biden support.
	Because a lot of these issues are kind of hot topics.
	We control that with BLM support as an additional filter that a lot of other polls probably wouldn't use.
	And so we make sure these things all match up.
	Like the Democrats look like Democrats, Republicans look like Republicans.
	I spend like hours on an Excel sheet trying to add and delete people until they look like real people.
	And right now it's only white registered voters.
	I like to do all races or at least Hispanics, but it's harder to get races and then have them match up to what those races are in real life.
	For example, I just have to, I need to find more liberal blacks.
	I have too many conservative or older black people.
	Asians, there's too many liberal ones.
	I need more conservative ones.
	But in the future, if the I'm not going to reveal what source I'm using, but if this source grows and I think it will, I might be able to poll non-whites and get their opinion on this too, hopefully.
	That's kind of interesting.
	Let me ask you this.
	Very interesting.
	You have a shortage beyond what the normal screw or the proportion is of whites to blacks of registered voters.
	In other words, whites register to vote more frequently than blacks, but how come blacks tend to win all of the elections in places like Memphis?
	Because, you know, I've always told James that that was one of the results of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
	It allowed people not to vote in the regular way and in ways that basically facilitated voter fraud, like absentee voting and early voting periods and whatnot.
	But it even falls down, even if they're registered, they're not, they're proportionately less often.
	Well, they may be proportionately less, but if they outnumber you 70, 30 like they do in this case, sorry, multiracial democracy just becomes a headcount at some point.
	Yeah, racial headcount, exactly right.
	Well, anyway, David, I think it's fascinating.
	So for the purposes of this poll, which we're going to be focusing on for the remainder of the hour, you were polling exclusively white registered voters, correct?
	That is correct.
	Okay, now, let's get down to the nitty-gritty.
	So foreign policy, non-interventionism, and the draft.
	This is the latest poll, January 13th, 2024, just a week old.
	You can read about it.
	Read along with us if you're at home, homelandinstitute.org, homelandinstitute.org slash polls.
	And you can get into all of the data that they have covered and unmasked so far.
	But give us the broad stroke highlights on what this one showed you, David.
	Sure.
	Before I go any further, you can also follow us on X, formerly known as Twitter at Homeland I-N-S-T.
	Then also my personal Twitter account where I'm a little bit more feisty, it's David Zutty, spelled Z-S-U-T-T-Y.
	It's a very unusual Hungarian last name, so it should be the first thing that comes up.
	But to start, I decided to start with the past first because they say those who don't study history, they're doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
	Now, sometimes we want to repeat the past because it was cool, but usually we're looking to avoid mistakes.
	And I lived through the global war on terror.
	9-11, for me, it happened when I was in the ninth grade on the bus.
	I know exactly where I was, Reheard, the first tower fell.
	I know exactly where I was at, Red Hurd, there was a second tower that fell.
	But the Global War on Terror was a, for me, it was a disaster and a failure.
	And that's, of course, not bringing in the issue that probably Bush and or Israel knew about it and let it happen, which makes them, in my opinion, just as culpable as Osama bin Laden.
	and they should be tried for war crimes.
	But it looks like...
	Maybe even more than that.
	It may be that they actually conspired to have it happen, but I'll just pass on that.
	But just, you know, it is incredible, basically, as you go through history, how many of these incidents that provoked us getting into war were false flags.
	Yeah, where it's just like it's blown off proportionally, the Lusitania and the yellow journalism of the Spanish-American War.
	It's a common theme.
	It goes all the way back to Spanish-American War.
	That's how pervasive this is.
	But thankfully, people are finally wisening up to this.
	All right, well, that's, again, this is what's so fascinating to me.
	This is what your polling uncovered, and you really got into very detailed questions.
	Continue on, uninterrupted.
	Now, we are going to have a break in about two minutes, but when we come back, we've kind of set the stage for the organization, your work, what you're doing there.
	And so we'll continue on with that in the next half of the interview.
	But with the time we have remaining in this segment, go ahead and start a setting.
	Sure.
	So for the first six questions, I asked, was the United States better off in regards to being safer from terrorist attacks, economic prosperity, and freedom and democracy?
	And those same three questions for the Middle East.
	And all these questions, only about 11 to 20% agreed to some extent.
	Allowed people to say, agreed a lot, a little bit, I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no, absolutely not, maybe no little.
	And so these were all abysmally low.
	Nobody thought that the United States or the Middle East were off by better by any metric at all.
	Now, more than 20%, except for one.
	The first question is the United States homeland safer from terrorist attacks due to the global war on terror.
	43.6% Alby somewhat disagreed, while 39.4% LB somewhat agreed.
	So even there, this was the main point of the GWATS, as we call it in the military, because there's a GWATS ribbon for participating in this ongoing nonsense.
	The thing that was the whole point of this, more people still think that's a failure.
	That's it.
	Okay, now this is, we're getting into the meat of it all right now.
	Homeland Institute.org/slash polls.
	David Zuddy, the executive director of the Institute, is with us now to talk about their latest polling that concerns a matter that will very much be on the front burner in 2024.
	We'll be back.
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	Hey, folks, why are we relying on the establishment, the system, to give us our polling data?
	We now have our very own polling institute, the Homeland Institute.
	And since bursting onto the scenes back last August with their first poll, which was published August 24th of 2023, they have been really checking the pulse of our people on the most important questions.
	For instance, first poll was, the findings were that wokeness is now almost as dangerous as racism for politicians and businesses.
	Listen to this, important finding.
	7.2% of white Republicans said that an accusation of racism would make them more likely to vote for a political candidate.
	These are numbers you need to know.
	And how about this?
	They did a poll on the great replacement.
	72% of white Republicans, 40% of white independents, and 16.8% of white Democrats feel that changing demographics pose some threat to white Americans and their culture and values.
	A poll on secession, finding that 32.2% of Republican respondents agreed, at least in part, with the concept of a national divorce.
	And on and on and on.
	Now, we're talking about foreign policy, non-interventionism, and the draft.
	I saw something out of Iowa, David.
	By the way, folks, just to remind you, Homeland Institute.org slash polls, you can really get into the meat and potatoes of their findings, and you should.
	Very detailed, very comprehensive.
	Out of Iowa, David, they were asking Republican caucus goers the issues of importance to them.
	Far and away in the lead was immigration.
	Not too far behind was the economy.
	And then in third place, but distantly, was foreign policy.
	Now, I think that those numbers could change should these things heat up.
	And let's go back to your findings on this very question.
	Please pick up.
	Yeah, so global war on terror, more Americans think, at least white Americans think that it failed at the main goal of making the U.S. homeland safer from terrorist attacks.
	That was the whole point, aside from, I guess, oil and Halliburton in Israel.
	And what's interesting is that all the other metrics, it wasn't even close.
	They didn't surpass 20% for anybody saying that they agreed.
	So it failed definitely from the Middle East in regards to freedom and democracy, which they always talked about, economic prosperity or stability.
	So we have to say this was a complete failure.
	And what's interesting here is that the independent voters were the most skeptical.
	They were the most negative.
	And so when politicians wanted to get these independent voters, they might want to start to maybe take a non-interventionist stance.
	That's very popular, might be more popular of these independents.
	While I think a lot of Democrats are so caught up in the vague notion of a democracy, and a lot of Republicans are still on the mantra that Israel is our greatest friend and ally.
	So really, if you want to swing an election, you might want to try out non-interventionism.
	And two, we also found this is very interesting.
	The 30 to 44 age bracket was also very negative too.
	And then the 18 to 29 age bracket kind of rebounded.
	And I think a reason why is because now we didn't control the age brackets as closely as we did for party, but we did somewhat control them.
	And I definitely control the age 18 to 29 bracket pretty well.
	So I think what happened is that, first of all, young people that just like war in general, that's a normal, healthy impulse.
	That's not negative, but it needs to be redirected towards healthy stuff, like fighting for our people and not for Israel.
	And two, we have to realize that the global war on terror GWATs, that's history now.
	We live through history for real.
	It's a history thing.
	And we have to educate the youth about how bad it was and how stupid it was.
	We didn't get any oil from that.
	You know, what we need to do is make, connect the dots, I guess.
	There was no threat to the United States of America, to our homeland here, our landmass at all in any of these wars.
	The best thing that we could have done in every war since the Spanish-American War is to stay out of them and see that's what we need to – your information is going to help us make that argument because there's just nothing in it for America.
	These wars are all being fought either for business interests or to promote Israel's agenda in the Middle East.
	And we've somehow been conned into doing all the heavy lifting for other groups.
	And it's time to tell the emperor he has no clothes.
	This is a lie that has been perpetuated and continues to be brought out because it works like a charm for people that want to use our nation for their own selfish purposes.
	David, speaking of Keith's point, you, if you don't mind me jumping to this, I thought this was a very interesting finding.
	You asked people specifically about the Current systems modus operandi of bomb the third world invite the third world.
	What were your findings there?
	Yeah, so a big issue here is that we have this modus operandi of bomb the third world import the third world.
	It's used as a guilt trip They sometimes have no pretext at all, but usually they like to have a pretext to justify immigration and we asked Would accepting refugees from Gaza increase the risk of violent crime and terrorist attacks in the U.S. homeland and it was overwhelmingly yes, and especially amongst Republicans.
	And this is interesting because Republicans are always supporting Israel.
	But if we support Israel, we're implicated in the Gaza genocide.
	And that's going to be used to import all these foreigners.
	So why are we supporting Israel and making war and encouraging them to bomb the Palestinians?
	Because they're already talking about wherever the Palestinians go, are they going to go to Europe or America?
	It's very strange how the Middle East, they never talk about sending the Palestinians to Egypt, which is right across the border, Jordan, Algeria, anywhere else.
	It's always straight to Europe and America.
	It's like there's an agenda to replace this.
	I don't know.
	I've been told it's a far-right conspiracies theory, but I don't know.
	It looks like the modus operandi.
	And two, we also just asked in general, does supporting Israel increase the risk of terrorist attacks?
	And Republicans admitted yes.
	That's a thing, too.
	And so we really have to show people.
	Interesting.
	Right.
	There's a cost here.
	Let me say this.
	Go ahead, finish your thought, and then I would like to.
	Yeah, there's a cost.
	This isn't just the cost we think about sending money, the money we spend on carrying the entire military strategy around Israel.
	Trust me, CENTCOM, Central Command, they're the baby that is pampered in the military.
	Every other COCOM just gets whenever CENTCOM is even more important than European command, UCOM.
	It's ridiculous.
	But it's true.
	It's like there is a price tag beyond just the money.
	Well, you know, as Shakespeare said, Jewish interests are allowed to be hoisted on their own petard by this because if they bring the more Muslims and specifically the more Palestinians they bring in, and they bring in a bunch of them, there's not a convenience store, I think, in the city of Memphis that is not owned or operated by Palestinians, for example.
	And they bring them over here, and they can find out very easily where the Jewish neighborhoods are.
	They still live in distinct neighborhoods for the most part, in the vicinity of synagogues.
	And if they found out, you know, we could sit back and watch the fur fly.
	They don't seem to understand that they're putting themselves at jeopardy.
	The Jewish interests are putting themselves in jeopardy by bringing these people over.
	Sort of like that Captain Ahab mindset there.
	They're going to stick it to us, but that doesn't help them in some ways.
	But David, this is interesting.
	Your questions about Israel, because I know obviously older Republicans are going to be Christians.
	That's not a bad thing, but what is bad is that so many Christians have been infected with this Christian Zionist philosophy and dispensationalism, so on and so forth.
	So you're still getting a lot of people saying, well, Israel is our greatest ally.
	But then you asked the question, what are they doing for us?
	And then it caused the people to perhaps even reconsider their answer.
	Right.
	So before I get to that, I asked another question asking if they thought that the U.S. relationship with Israel is more of a net positive or a net negative.
	They could say like a big net positive, a small net positive, same with net negative, along with about equally positive and negative.
	And what's interesting here is that Republicans, their support was higher than everybody else, of course, for Israel in this question.
	And Republicans age 18 to 29 were also more pro-Israel in this question than the general population.
	But, but Republicans age 18 to 29, there were fewer people who saw Israel as a net positive than Republicans in general, and more who saw our relationship with Israel as a net negative than Republicans in general.
	So, what this found, this is buttressing what I'm basically replicating the findings of the poll that our dear friend Jonathan Greenblatt at the ADL talks about, where there was some leaked audio, and he was freaking out about how this wasn't a party thing, or I forget his exact words, but he said it wasn't an ideology thing.
	It was an age thing, and it's true.
	Now, the Republicans age 18 to 29 are lagging behind on skepticism, but they're making headways.
	They're making progress, and that is good because when this came out, I heard a bunch of naysayers saying, well, that's just because the youth is more non-white.
	Or the white ones, they're also a lot of the more liberal.
	No, this is also a trend in the Republicans.
	It's not as strong in the Republican youth, but it is still there.
	We're still making headway.
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	All right, folks, we really have to make haste right now with David Zutty.
	I've got a few follow-up questions, some conclusions, and we're starting to run out of time.
	So, David, you said there was two very interesting questions you wanted to share with the audience.
	And again, we're just covering the broad strokes of this poll.
	It is much more in-depth and detail than we possibly could share with you in an hour of commercial radio.
	But David, finish your thoughts on the things you want to share with the audience, and then we'll start wrapping this up.
	Sure.
	So we have this refrain, this mantra, that Israel is our greatest friend and ally.
	And people like Nikki Haley will say this all the time.
	Sean Haley.
	Say that America couldn't exist without Israel.
	But, you know, friends help each other.
	I hope your best friend has done something nice for you recently.
	So we asked respondents, could you think of a concrete example of Israel helping U.S. interests off the top of your head?
	You don't get to go to Wikipedia here, off the top of your head.
	And guess what?
	Only 23% of all respondents could say yes or claim to maybe lied.
	So that is a big thing because I think that's a great way to really do some skepticism about Zionism is ask, well, what have they done for us?
	If it's really that big, what have they done beyond this vague talk about democracy?
	Make it concrete.
	Because they'll be very vague about an outpost about the democracy, which I don't care about.
	In the Middle East, that's their problem to work out on their own.
	I'm not there to teach them or boss them around.
	So no, it's a fake relationship.
	We get an increased risk of terrorism, a pretext for migration, and they have not done anything concrete for us at all.
	And the other question was, off the top of your head, can you think of a concrete example of Israel hurting American interests?
	And React 29% say yes.
	Now, that number is way too low.
	We need to really work on that.
	But think about it.
	Right now, skepticism about Zionism is spreading.
	It's making headways.
	And this is with only 29% who can think of a concrete example.
	And there's a lot of concrete examples like the USS Liberty, et cetera, et cetera.
	I won't recite them all because we could be here all night.
	And I really want to footstomp a point is that some people say that, hey, oh, USS Liberty, that was so 2019.
	I already knew about this.
	This is boring because remastered it.
	Well, you're a good student.
	Well, now's the time for you to go from being a good student to being a good teacher because a lot of other people don't know.
	We have to share our knowledge.
	And right now, X, it's not a free speech platform, but it's a lot more free.
	And there are large accounts being skeptical about Israel.
	You have a duty, I think, to get on there and do what you can do to spread some skepticism.
	Ask the hard questions.
	Be an activist.
	Well, one of the hard questions, David, is this.
	They're not our greatest ally.
	They're our greatest moocher and backstabber.
	And we need to bring that home to the people.
	But basically, they're like some kid in the seventh grade that gets his big brother to fight all of his enemies in the class.
	That's what's happening.
	We're basically running our nation, running our military, spending our treasury to help Israel.
	And everything that helps Israel basically makes us unpopular with the rest of the world.
	And I don't think a lot of people understand that.
	And particularly southern evangelicals that believe this, he who blesses Israel is blessed, and he who curses Israel is cursed.
	That's the group that we really need to reach and convert their mindset because that's fertile soil.
	And without those people backing Israel, I don't think Israel would be backed, at least in public opinion.
	Well, I mean, you know, well, that's actually one of the questions I had for David.
	And by the way, folks, homelandinstitute.org slash polls.
	At the end of all of these polls, then we've talked about they've done polls on wokeness and racism, on the great replacement, on secession, and then now this one on foreign policy.
	They all have a nice conclusion at the bottom where it sort of summarizes the findings of these polls, which you can read in depth, but it has a Cliffs Notes version for you at the end.
	And we'd encourage you to check that out as well.
	But how can these polls, see, again, and I've got to reiterate this point.
	Nobody on our side is doing the work that the Homeland Institute is doing with regards to these polls.
	Real, honest to goodness polls conducted in the same way that the system conducts their polls.
	But how can these findings on any of these topics that you've conducted polls on thus far, David, be applied politically?
	Because public opinion isn't worth as much to a politician as PAC money.
	But how can these be used to the benefit of our people?
	One of the ways is that we can show that our policies are not extreme.
	They're actually very widespread.
	And they need to worry about this because we're not alone.
	We're not a, I hate the word dissident.
	We're not really dissidents anymore.
	We're coming out of that self-ghettoization.
	Mainstream, yeah.
	Yeah, they need to watch out for this because, like, here, I think one of the big things here is that a draft isn't feasible and it'd be wildly unpopular.
	So what's going to happen is that a lot of these respondents believe that this is likely to escalate into a regional conflict, this Gaza crisis.
	And I agree with them.
	I think they're correct about that.
	However, they were overwhelmingly opposed.
	Well, there was a slim majority who wanted to give diplomatic economic support to Israel.
	That's unfortunate, but it's a fact.
	But overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly, they were strongly opposed to boots on the ground or airstrikes.
	And guess what happened?
	A few days ago, Biden did an airstrike, not on Gaza, but on the Houthis, which basically jumped into this whole drama, and they're doing this piracy in the Red Sea and all that.
	Well, the Houthis are backed by Iran, so this risks an escalation.
	And it probably will escalate because these people don't understand diplomacy.
	Yeah, it is.
	Don't you agree though, David, that the Iranians want that.
	I'm not the Iranians want it.
	The U.S. government and the Israeli government want, they're praying for Iran to get involved in this thing.
	And, you know, see, I think back about World War I.
	They declared war, the United States, at Jewish incitement, and they found they had very few people.
	Wouldn't the last time either?
	Yeah, I know it.
	And it was that they basically didn't get the response.
	They got very few volunteers, so they initiated a draft, but somehow waving the flag and the bloody shirt was all that it took to get, you know, people, young men, competing with one another to get into the alley.
	Well, you know, and we've talked about this with Michael Hill.
	I mean, the Southerners, the Southern men, our people, are the worst with this because we like to fight.
	It's in our genes.
	It's in our DNA.
	Well, we also have been stung by the idea that we were somehow traitors to have the Civil War, and they were trying to overcome that back then in 1917.
	Some of them may have.
	But no, that's not a factor today.
	But that was a factor, I think, in 1917.
	Well, hopefully not.
	But anyway, David, we've got to.
	Go ahead.
	But it looks like a draft isn't feasible.
	It's not happening.
	Yes, you pulled on this.
	Surprisingly, people don't want to be drafted.
	You know, it's one thing to put it up as your social media icon, you know, the old meme, I support the current thing, or to parrot platitudes that everybody else is saying.
	It's another thing to say, yeah, I want to be drafted, or I think there should be a draft.
	That's where the rubber meets the road.
	And people, surprisingly or not, don't want to be drafted for one of these wars that they may offer some mouthpiece.
	Reminds me of Country Joe and the Fish's song from Vietnam, Vietnam Rags.
	All right, here's the thing, David, and I've got to ask you this.
	This is, I think, the big thing right now is we talked about all the different issues you've polled on.
	These are issues that are our bread and butter here at TPC.
	This is the stuff we talk about every week.
	Now, yes, we'd like to see the numbers higher.
	Speaking of secession, you said I think it was 33% roughly thereabout of Republicans who were in favor of it.
	But now, you've got to keep in mind, this was actually on par with an establishment poll that had come out a year ago.
	The answer wasn't, are you for it or against it?
	Know unsure, that the people who are unsure had a big slice of that as well.
	So it's uh, it's almost uh, split into thirds there, but anyway yeah, I mean maybe you say we want to see that at 60 70 something unrealistic right now.
	But I think the key is, which way are the trends going?
	Are white people trending in our direction on these very sensitive issues?
	Are they moving in our direction?
	What have your findings shown there, right?
	So here for the upcoming year 2024, we're going to repeat the two, two to three of the first three polls and we'll see if there's any change.
	Like for the the, the poll on secession, national divorce.
	You have to realize that even though people like Greg Johnson were talking about national divorce for years and years, amongst others, it didn't really go viral until Marjorie Taylor Green tweeted about it in march or february of 2023.
	So this year we'll do a follow-up poll about 12 months after we first pulled on that and we can see what changed.
	And it's good that we actually are replicating the establishment findings, because it means that the other, the other data we have, is probably correct too.
	That gives me a lot of confidence.
	And two, we could then go beyond this because the establishment wouldn't ask the questions I asked.
	And what's interesting is that for this poll, I got a lot of feedback from respondents saying this were these were unusual and interesting questions.
	They gave me a lot of positive feedback.
	They're not being asked these questions and when they are, they're they're keeping this under lock and key.
	But now I think this can embolden people to say no to a draft.
	They will say no, i'm not alone and yes, it's gonna be mostly a young thing, mostly a Democrat thing, but there will be older people and Republicans opposing a draft too.
	A lot of them would do civil disobedience, a nonviolent protest.
	I'm a little discouraged by some of the people who said that they resort to violence.
	I don't approve of that because that's a losing situation for everybody involved.
	But it's something to keep in back of your head.
	It's it's it's yeah, I think your findings.
	Yeah, about four or five percent said they would resort to violence if there was a draft correct.
	Yeah, and the.
	We think about the 1960s as turbulent.
	I think this would be even more turbulent because people there's less social fabric, people are just more alienated.
	They're not going to go along with this.
	Oh yeah, and and and also this together by a very tenuous and vapid economy and consumer consumerism sorry David yeah, we've got a minute remaining and and also, this poll only targeted white voters.
	It didn't target colored voters.
	And there's that's a big thing, because they got, they were allowed to basically riot without consequence in 2020.
	They're app committed to using political violence with no repercussions.
	And we also didn't talk about Russia or Ukraine, and I think Russia would get involved and doing propaganda.
	That doesn't mean that I approve of Russia i'm kind of Pro-Ukrainian but Russia would jump In with propaganda, and that would affect these numbers too.
	So, a draft isn't happening.
	People don't believe in the regime's lies.
	It's over.
	Well, David, I tell you, I've enjoyed this interview very much.
	HomelandInstitute.org, support the work of the only institute that's doing polling for our side and how those results can be applied.
	We'll find out together.
	But I really like what you said a moment ago: that you're going to replicate some of the polls from last year, a year later, and then we'll have an ironclad, concrete idea of where the trends are moving.
	I'm really looking forward to those findings.
	And we'll stay in touch with you often.
	Let us know whenever you do and conduct a new poll.
	We'll have you back on, David.
	Thanks for being so we can use it with our listeners.

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