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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Never a dull moment from week to week here at TPC.
That's for sure.
Welcome to another busy night of talk radio this Saturday evening, October the 14th.
I'm James Edwards along with Keith Alexander.
It's mid-October.
The weather is nice, and the rhetoric is hot.
I tell you what, we always say that we never have to worry about having content.
The left always provides us with plenty of it.
This week in particular is an example of that in spades.
Well, here's what we're going to be getting to tonight.
Obviously, I think the main thing on everybody's mind in terms of global affairs is the situation in Israel and in Gaza.
So we're going to be spending about two hours on that, in fact.
Joining us a little bit later on in the program will be Dr. Kevin McDonald, of course, our friend, the professor emeritus of psychology at California State University, Long Beach.
He's going to be offering his opinion there.
A little later on still, Paul Fromm, a little departure.
We're not going to spend the whole show on the Middle East, but Paul Fromm, the director of Canadian Association for Free Expression, is going to also appear to talk about a pretty bizarre situation that recently rocked the great white North.
But we have also just added, as of last night, John Friend.
He'll be joining us in the next segment.
Of course, the assistant editor of the American Free Press.
I thought that the American Free Press, and I have to say, I'm not being a homer here, I got a sneak peek at the most recent issue that's going to be mailed out in a couple of days.
And I think it's the best coverage on the situation in the Middle East that I've read.
And so we're going to have John Friend on in just a moment to join our discussion about the hostilities in the Middle East.
Of course, last week, Keith, the big news was the House speaker situation.
We had Steve King on to talk about that.
And of course, he's very capable of expertly laying out the scene there from his 18 years in Congress.
And a week ago tonight when we were talking to Steve in this, our first hour, he was talking about how it looked like Jim Jordan had the inside track.
And then, you know, between last week and tonight, there was a big shake-up.
And it looked like Steve Scalise had it all but sewn up.
Now he has bowed out and now Jim Jordan's back in the lead again.
But that's all been overshadowed by what's going on in the Middle East.
But still, it is not settled and there still seems to be a lot of chaos there.
Well, Jim Jordan is still 100 votes short, so the matter is still in flux.
You know, nothing has been resolved, basically, between last week and this week.
We don't have a Speaker of the House.
I wonder if we will ever have a Speaker of the House.
If it's not better for us, as long as we don't, the agenda gets slowed down.
That's right.
If we can do anything to stop Congress from passing laws, I consider that a plus.
The interesting thing about Steve Scalise, now I'm speculating here as to why he may have stepped down.
I mean, neither of them had the votes.
Jordan still doesn't.
Scalise didn't.
You got to get essentially 100% of the Republican side of the House to vote for you.
All the Democrats are going to vote for Hakeem Jeffries every time.
And so you have like, I think, three or four votes you can lose before you're not elected.
And so it's going to be tough for anybody to get there.
I think, look, am I saying he's our guy?
No, but I think of the people that could realistically assume the position, so to speak, Jim Jordan might be the best we could do.
Animal house analogy.
But in any event, we'll see where all of that goes.
In the meantime, you know, hey.
You know, Steve Scalise was supposed to be the moderate choice.
Well, I tell you something about Steve Scalise.
I don't know if this is why he stepped down, but the media, as it is wont to do, regurgitated the old story that had played itself out about nine years ago about how he had attended a David Duke meeting in 2002.
And he purportedly told a reporter that he's David Duke.
He sees himself as David Duke without the baggage.
Well, now the media makes it seem as though that he and David were in the same room.
Now, apparently, he may or may not have attended a Euro meeting in 2002, which is and was David Duke's organization.
But in 2002, the media makes it sound like they were there together, you know, sort of doing a policy session.
David Duke was in Russia for all of 2002.
And I don't know anybody that could go from Russia to New Orleans and back in time for one meeting.
They were never in the same room together.
Now, the media continues to say that they were.
Not that it would have been a big deal in my mind if they had been, but it just goes to show the media just continues to play fast and loose with the facts.
Well, the media would treat it like he and David Duke are compadres that are on the same page if it were only so, but it's not.
You know, Steve Scalise is the moderate choice for Speaker of the House.
Jim Jordan is the more right-wing choice, but neither of them really meet our standards.
Yeah, so if you've got to go with one or the other, that's a tepid, tepid.
I can't even call that an endorsement.
But if the moderates in the Republican Party, the Republicans from blue states like Kevin McCarthy, find Steve Scalise unacceptable, too far-right, then I don't know that we're going to have a Speaker of the House.
Well, again, the rest of this term for the next two years.
You've got to get all of the Republicans save four.
And as fractured as the conditions are up there surrounding this debate, that just seems like an impossible thing to do.
Well, this puts a big point on what the shortcomings of the Republican Party are.
We have Republicans who come from blue states who are basically indistinguishable from moderate Democrats.
That's the problem with the Republican Party.
That's why we never make any headway for the issues that are important to us and to our listening audience.
Let's move now.
We spent an hour with Steve King on that last week.
Not a lot has changed, but that's the update.
And so we'll move on from that now to this.
How much time do we have, Miss Producer, before the music starts?
I want to see if I can slip in this clip.
Two minutes, that's enough for me to play this.
This is Pat Buchanan in 2009 on MSNBC warning that the brothers of five little girls that were killed by an Israeli bombing of Gaza in that year would grow up to join Hamas and fight Israel.
Well, it's 14 years later.
Michael Tracy writes, and they're all grown up now.
Let's listen to a combative Pat Buchanan here.
The Israelis have been hit for six months with these little rockets, which didn't kill anybody.
It was outrageous, cruel, and stupid.
And they triggered a blitzkrieg against the Palestinians in Gaza, which in my judgment is an Israeli concentration camp where a million and a half people are locked up, cannot come out or go in.
They've been controlling food, electricity, fuel, and the innocent people in Gaza are the ones suffering.
Concentration camp, Pat, doesn't that diminish the significance of the real concentration camp?
No, I'm not talking about a death camp.
I'm talking about what the British had in concentration camps in South Africa and what the Spanish had in Cuba and what others have had where they bring all these people, lock them in there, and treat them with great cruelty and a humanitarian disaster despite what Zippy Livny says.
Let me tell you.
I'll tell you how you create people for Hamas.
You kill 675 people.
You wound and injure 3,000.
What do you think, the brothers and sisters, those five little girls that died, what are they going to be when they grow up?
What are these people under this treated like this?
You know.
Look, why do you think the Palestinians you know and I know that Hamas's doctrine?
I can talk about it right here.
I know they're trying to hide in schools, in mosques, to hide among the civilians and use civilians for shields.
And you know, it is a war crime to use civilians for shields.
You shouldn't be criticizing those war crimes on the part of Hamas.
Look, Hamas, any war crimes, I criticize their attacks with those rockets, stupid and cruel.
But you sit here and tell me that the Israeli people and the Israeli nation have treated the Palestinian people with any kind of justice.
Those towns hit by the rockets are former Palestinian towns.
All right.
Well, hey, listen, not a lot has changed since 2009, except for the fact that there's a lot more hatred now than there was then, if you can believe it.
We'll be right back with John Friend.
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James Edwards, Keith Alexander, John Friend, Assistant Editor of the American Free Press.
We'll let you say hello very quickly, John, and then we're going to toss it right back to you after Keith has a quick response to the Buchanan equipment we played a moment ago.
How are you doing tonight, John?
Hey, I'm good, James.
Thank you very much for having me back on.
I appreciate it.
It's always an honor to speak with you.
Well, it's great to have you back, especially on such short notice.
I think we got you booked last night, in fact.
Keith, before we toss it back to John, because he's got a lot to say and he's only on with us for a couple of segments tonight.
We played to sort of open up our discussion of the situation in the Middle East, which will continue through the second hour from this point forward.
We played a clip from Pat Buchanan.
Well, even back years ago, Pat Buchanan was a voice in the wilderness speaking up for the interests of the Palestinian people who are treated horribly.
Well, I don't even know if that's what he was doing.
I think he was just being objective, an objective commentary.
Well, what he was saying was that the Palestinian people have been grossly mistreated by the Israelis.
They continue to be treated badly.
What we're seeing right now are on the cusp of having basic ethnic cleansing against all Palestinians within the borders of Israel.
And he spoke up about it.
And as usual with Pat, when he hit the nail on the head, you drive it straight.
He said exactly what needs to be said.
Now, the Jewish guy that was on the show with him objected to him using the term concentration camps to describe the Gaza Strip.
Apparently, that's one of the phrases that they think they have a patent on, like Holocaust.
But, you know, that's exactly what it is.
They've concentrated these people into this seven by 25 mile strip of land.
They ration water, electricity, and food to them, keep them on starvation and rations.
And now they're driving them out.
Look, they say three days, and then we're going to cut off the water, the electricity, everything.
What if we did that to the American Indians here?
Do you think that the rest of the world would have an outcry against America for doing that to the American Indians?
And see, the Palestinians are like the American Indians.
They're the original inhabitants of that area.
Now, I asked you, I said, well, the woke would say, well, what about the reservations?
What's the difference?
Well, the reservations, they have their own government there.
They can have gambling casinos there.
Some of them are wealthy as wealthy can be.
And also, they also have the right to step out into American society generally and enter into the society as full U.S. citizens.
The Palestinians don't have that.
They're not Israeli citizens.
All right.
That's just an opening salvo.
John, as I said, and thank you again for coming on tonight, because when I saw the latest issue, which hasn't even hit subscribers' mailboxes yet, I said, we've got to get John on to break this down.
So there's two articles, page one and then page two.
The fog of war is one, and then you wrote an entry as the associate editor on page two.
Where would you start with regards to breaking down American Free Press's coverage of what's happening in the Middle East for the audience tonight?
Well, I mean, yeah, there's so many angles that we could address with this current situation, this ongoing conflict.
And just to comment briefly on the Pat Buchanan statement and sort of what Keith was talking about.
I mean, due to Jewish control of information and the mass media in this country, we are never presented like an objective perspective and analysis of what's really going on in this part of the world.
We're only ever presented one side of the story.
And of course, that's Israel's side of the story, which is very dubious and in many cases fabricated and not even true.
And that is clearly going on with this current conflict.
We're never told about Israel's, frankly, genocidal policies towards the Palestinians or the true history of the creation of this state, which was founded by literal terrorists who openly talked about genociding Palestinians and other people in the area.
And this is exactly what many of these people in the current government openly talk about.
Netanyahu is back in power.
He's been involved in Israeli politics for over two decades at this point.
And he's got a very hardline government, probably one of the most Zionist, fanatical governments that's ever been in power in Israel, from what I understand anyways.
So it's a very one-sided situation that Americans are presented with.
we just simply don't have the facts and the true history of what's really going on in this part of the world I think, oh go ahead no you Please, John, you're the guest.
Go ahead.
No, I mean, I was just going to say, I think the most important point I would make is that, number one, I mean, none of this would be happening if it weren't for America's unwavering support for Israel, no matter how outrageous or treacherous or criminal or genocidal its actions are.
It's $12 billion a year that we give to the Israeli government.
Well, I mean, it's just unlimited piles of money.
And I mean, we've been seeing this play out with Ukraine, but I mean, Israel has been basically the Ukraine for the past 60 years since its creation.
We've been handing untold amounts of money towards this country.
Not only money, but weaponry.
And, you know, we'll give them like a loan and then like forgive the loan.
I mean, it's just outrageous.
We just give them so much money.
And we share all of our military secrets and hardware with them.
They have nuclear weapons.
They have the access to the best military technology that America has access to.
And enough is never enough.
I want to approach this tonight.
I have poured over this for a week.
I mean, the time spent preparing for a show outnumbers the amount of hours we spend on the air by about two or three fold, at least every week.
And I've been reading a lot about this, trying to decide how I wanted to approach it.
And I think I do want to approach it in a Buchanan-esque type of way, understanding that, hey, war is hell.
I think Trump's Charlottesville comment here, and I'm paraphrasing, there's good guys and bad guys on both sides.
I mean, that's probably applicable.
What you're saying, John, of course, is, you know, historically, I'm not going to push back against any of that.
But I guess I'll be the good cop tonight.
Y'all could be the bad cops per se, or to put it that way.
But, I mean, the one thing you wrote in American Free Press, always be skeptical of war news and atrocity propaganda.
Hey, there ain't no propaganda like war propaganda.
Now, here you have, I think, something that just cuts straight to the credibility of everything we're seeing.
Number one, the first thing I noticed is, wow, when something happens to the Israelis, and look, some of those scenes you saw, I mean, hey, if you're a human being, you don't like to see it, but you see these things, and you do see these things.
You understand what I'm saying?
You see this stuff as soon as it happens.
It comes over.
You don't ever see it on the other side.
And you never hear a discouraging word or a different viewpoint.
All of this war propaganda, you know, about the beheaded babies and whatnot.
It reminds me of the war propaganda in World War I about the German troops throwing Belgian babies in the air and using them for bayonet practice.
Well, it's interesting, isn't it, John?
Because, I mean, you had Joe Biden just lying through his senile teeth saying he had seen this stuff.
I mean, it has been debunked, but it was in newspapers all over the world.
This lie about the beheading of Israeli babies, it was in newspapers all over the world.
That lie made a trip around the world before the truth could get its boots on.
And if they're lying about things like that now in the age of where everybody's got a cell phone, they're connected to the internet and you can actually see what's going on.
I wonder what they would have lied about, you know, I don't know, 80 years ago.
Right.
A lot easier.
So talk about that.
Yeah, no, I mean, look, that was like really the main focus of the personal that I wrote is, I mean, wars are absolutely based on lies.
Certainly, over the course of the past hundred years or so, throughout the 20th century, I mean, pretty much every war America's been involved in has been based on nothing but lies.
We've seen all sorts of truly absurd and fantastical atrocity propaganda come out about the German.
Keith had mentioned the Germans in World War I. Certainly we all know about the alleged Holocaust story and all the tales of that alleged event that have been systematically reinforced and perpetuated, despite them being debunked over and over again by serious, legitimate historians and investigators.
And I mean, even in our current era with this conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Putin has been accused of being a war criminal.
The Russians have been accused of committing all these war crimes.
I mean, this is how the mass media works.
They create these stories, these narratives, and the media runs with it.
And before anybody knows any better, it's rumors and everybody's talking about it.
And then the truth sort of trickles out.
And I think that's exactly what's going on with this conflict right now.
I mean, the 40 beheaded babies, I mean, it's just so absurd.
This is not even believable.
And yet it's so emotional.
It's so traumatizing.
People do sort of blindly accept it.
Especially when you're reinforced.
I got to say this before you ask, Keith.
I mean, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, maybe a little more to this side or to that.
But yeah, I mean, right.
The beheading of all these babies.
I mean, the same is true about World Wars 1 and 2.
I mean, were there probably some atrocities?
Absolutely.
Did it all happen or did none of it happen?
No, that's not it.
I mean, you know, it's somewhere in the middle.
Lampshades and soap?
I don't think so, Keith.
Well, I have seen tapes or vignettes from this where the Hamas fighters are saying, let the women and children go and a particular thing.
So, like you say, that's never going to get reported.
Let's get right down to the nitty-gritty on this, John.
Is this a false flag?
Is it a partial false flag?
What do you think the truth is about this Hamas invasion of Israel?
You're going to have to hold that answer, but ponder it over this break.
Is it another 9-11?
A lot more questions than answers as this is still only about a week old.
I think this pretty much broke out last week, right around the time we were going on the air.
We'll be right back.
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Of course, there's the old cliché: one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, but is it not true?
I mean, why are the founding fathers seen as patriots instead of terrorists?
And why is that?
Because they won.
And why are the Confederates not seen in the historical light that they should be seen in?
Because they lost.
And as far as war crimes go, Pearl Harbor was bad, but Dresden was good.
I mean, what was Dresden if not a war crime?
So all of this stuff, you know, you got to just look at it on a level and on a balance and try to be objective.
It is very difficult to be objective about such emotionally charged topics, but that's what I'm attempting to do tonight, Keith.
Well, that's a historical perspective.
The here and now perspective is why is there no spokesman for CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, any of these major news outlets in America that has anything except vituperation to say about the Palestinians and their role in this raid?
Well, that's a separate topic, and I think we know the answer.
And also about what's happening to the people in the Gaza Strip.
They are victims if there ever were victims.
And like I said, if we tried to do something like that in America to the American Indians, I mean, all of the world would rise up in outrage.
Well, but Israel can do this, and certainly a lot of innocence in that open-air concentration camp, as Buchanan called it.
But we're with John Friend, the associate editor.
Sometimes I call him the assistant editor.
I use the words assistant and associate editor interchangeably, just like the media uses white nationalists and white supremacists interchangeably when they're talking about us.
But any event, John, Keith asked before the break, and I got to get to some more questions that you posed in your article here for American Free Press, which I'm looking at right now.
But is this another 9-11?
Is this a false flag?
Well, that's certainly how they've been describing it in Israel in the media.
This is Israel's 9-11.
This is Israel's Pearl Harbor.
Been.
You know, as you guys both know I I, I follow the explicitly Jewish press pretty closely, and that's really like the main narrative that they've been, they've been pursuing, is that this was Israel's 9-11 and nothing.
You know.
Everything's gonna change after this, which is the same sort of.
What do they mean by that, though?
I think it was their 9-11 too, but maybe not the same.
No more, Mr Neiskey.
When will they ever miss the Nise Guy to the Palestinians, right, keep going.
Well, that's true.
Well, you know.
I mean, I do have a lot of questions about how this all allegedly went down.
It's very, very sort of mysterious.
I mean, how Israel apparently was caught off guard with this attack.
I mean, I have a hard time believing that, considering how locked down Gaza is and other parts of the West Bank and rolling are tops in the world.
You know they've got well.
All right, John addresses this.
John, if you don't mind this, this one interruption, we're going to give you the floor for a long landing here, but uh, i'd like to read the questions that you posed in your article and you can choose which one to take, but all of them are provocative and uh, are wonderful food for thought.
They're all uh, great thought exercises.
All right, here were the questions you posed in your article for American FREE Press.
By the way folks, if you haven't subscribed yet Americanfreepress.net Americanfreepress.net, but John, in your article you write that um, numerous questions still remain that mainstream newscasters should be addressing about the events Israel is exploiting to justify operation Flattened Palestine or whatever they end up calling this military siege of Gaza.
For instance, how was Hamas able to acquire 5,000 missiles without Israel or the United States knowing where do you hide 5,000 missiles in an area barely the size of what?
Barely twice the size of Washington DC?
How did Israeli forces fail to detect explosions and bulldozers blasting holes in multiple spots along the thick concrete wall surrounding the Gaza prison through which Hamas fighters entered Israel?
These are wonderful questions, and they continue.
Did Joe Biden actually see the photos of beheaded babies, as he said in a speech?
The Jerusalem, the Jerusalem POST, claims it has seen photographs of the corpses of burned babies, but were they beheaded while still alive by Hamas fighters?
We wait to see some persuasive.
And what about the Iron Dome that was supposedly impregnable?
Why didn't the Iron Dome knock down any of these missiles?
We got time later, Keith.
These are his questions.
If the but that's a good one.
If Israel has other atrocities photos, wouldn't it help them to show them, to sway vacillating world opinion?
How did the WALL Street Journal know, within hours of the onset of the attack, that Iran had planned and funded the operation?
Quote unquote, will Israel's coming massacre in Gaza galvanize support for Palestine?
And, of course, who benefits?
Who benefits from these tragic events?
How could it be possible that the Palestinian people will benefit unless Israel is what?
What will Iran's response be?
All right go, John.
You got a lot of questions.
Which one would you even want to tackle that?
That last one is probably the most important one.
I mean, who is going to ultimately benefit from this?
I mean I don't see how Hamas or the Palestinians are going to benefit, considering Israel is about to totally flatten the whole entire Gaza Strip, which they're openly talking about doing.
I mean they've already done it to a certain extent.
I mean it's been an ongoing policy for 20 years or more now.
I mean these people have just been subjected to the most inhumane conditions.
I mean it really is a concentration camp, as Pat Buchanan described it.
I mean yeah, there's a lot of questions.
I mean I'm very skeptical of the mass media of course, and all of these atrocity claims about the beheaded babies are very very, I mean, just not even plausible, not even believable.
Frankly, in my opinion, and you know, you even see a lot of mainstream reports coming back or coming out now like sort of walking back these claims saying, look, it's unsubstantiated, it came from a dubious source, it was never verified, you know, but they still, of course, run with it.
There's no No, not at all.
I mean, and you know, since this sort of broke out, I mean, I've been listening to, you know, different podcasts and, you know, news programs and reading all sorts of articles and stuff.
And, I mean, there have been and continue to be credible reports sort of detailing how Israel actually helped create Hamas, or at least supported them when they were first getting started, sort of as like a check against the Palestinian liberation organization.
Now, does that mean that Hamas is like a total like puppet of Israel or like, you know, an arm of Mossad or something like that?
I tend to doubt that.
I mean, I kind of think that Hamas does have some sort of independent agency and legitimacy within Palestinian society.
But that being said, the official narrative explaining the situation just really does not add up to me.
There's a lot of speculation that this may be some sort of false flag attack or like a, you know, Israel like sort of let it happen on purpose type situation where they wanted this to happen in order to justify targeting Gaza, which is exactly what Netanyahu and all these other, you know, hardliners in the Israeli government want to do.
I mean, we ran an article in this most recent issue.
It's sort of interesting how this all worked out because this situation happened over the course of last weekend, and we were already sort of getting articles together even before this happened.
And there's been all this press coverage, which, I mean, this has been going on for a long time, but it's sort of generating international headlines and creating this international scandal now because of social media, basically,
where Christians in the Middle East and the holy, the Holy Quarter of Jerusalem are trying to conduct Christian services, and they're being spat upon by sometimes by these little Jewish Orthodox children are spitting on these Christians in the streets of Jerusalem, and it's creating this international scandal.
And this is just one example of just how the American public is not given the full picture of what's actually going on in this part of the world.
And this sort of behavior is, I mean, very, very minor compared to a bomb being dropped on your house or on your apartment block or something like that.
But this is the sort of people that we're dealing with.
These people are ruthless, and America has provided unwavering diplomatic and military financial support to this rogue terrorist government, this rogue terrorist regime, since its founding.
And I mean, I've argued for years that there is just simply overwhelming evidence demonstrating that Israel and an international network of Jewish criminals tied to Israel were responsible for planning and orchestrating 9-11, which is really what kick-started this whole global war on terrorism.
And I mean, these people were openly talking about how they needed a new Pearl Harbor to justify this global war on terrorism.
Which is the exact same rhetoric.
It's the same rhetoric we see right now unfolding in Israel.
Well, the question that raises, to me at least, John, is what has this been designed to kick off?
Is this to kick off the end of the two-state solution by driving all the Palestinians out of Israeli territory?
Is it to start another war?
Is it to start a war with Iran?
What are your thoughts on this?
Well, I mean, honestly, I think it's probably, I mean, it's looking like it's sort of all of the above.
I mean, they absolutely want to drive the Palestinians out of Israel and create this, you know, monolithic Jewish state.
I mean, that's sort of been their policy from day one.
And now they have their new Pearl Harbor to sort of justify that sort of overt aggression and justify it in the eyes of the international community, which with their sympathizers throughout the West, this very complicit mainstream mass media, they've largely been able to do, at least thus far.
And that's another interesting aspect of all of this is like, you know, we see a guy like Keith Woods.
This guy is just absolutely dominating social media.
He's systematically like debunking all of these claims, and yet they just continue to double down.
It's like the facts, truth does not matter to these people.
All right, John, music's playing.
I know you got to go to a wedding tonight.
I don't think it's your wedding, but you got to go to a wedding.
You got to run right now.
You got two more minutes on the flip side.
You got to run.
No, I can sit around for a minute.
We could close out the hour.
Yeah.
Oh, you can save the whole hour.
All right.
Well, set tight and we'll be right back.
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So John Friend is staying with us for the rest of the hour.
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One more quick email, and this is from another listener from Arkansas.
This is Phil in Arkansas.
And he writes that Mark Dice had an excellent take on the Hamas attack in Israel.
Give it a listen and let me know what you think.
And then he's responding to our coverage of Columbus Day last week, Keith, where we celebrated the life and legacy of Christopher Columbus.
Phil writes, and this is a very good point, so good, in fact, that I wanted to read it right now.
We all know about Queen Isabella, but do not forget Queen Elizabeth I. Had she not defeated the Spanish Armada, and the odds were very much against her because the Spanish sent a thousand ships, what is now the United States would be part of the Spanish Empire, which means it would be Catholic and mestizo, just like Mexico.
The same for Canada.
I bet Keith knows the movie, Elizabeth the Golden Age, the Golden Age.
Rent it.
It's very moving.
Well, thank you, Phil.
I will rent it, and thank you for the comment.
And that is a good one.
Yes.
I mean, I'm glad that she sent Columbus, but I'm also glad that we are watching that movie in the last several months with a friend.
All right.
So back to John friend.
Listen, I think here again, I've got to say, I mean, surely, listen, are there angels on both sides and demons on both sides?
I mean, you know, it's pretty much the way it always is in war.
But I think my position on this is there should be a homeland for all unique cultures and peoples.
And I want to see a homeland for everyone.
And what happened in 1948 in Palestine?
They just shoot them off like a flock of chickens.
And that would be sugarcoating it.
Quite frankly, they used force and that they, you know, the Irgun, who was run by Ram Emanuel's father, was a terrorist organization, if there ever was one.
So, you know, we never hear any of that.
The Jews have got to have a place to never, ever.
Yeah.
You know, the Jews need a homeland, too.
Well, that's the age-old question.
Where do these people belong?
I mean, I guess in Washington, D.C. Hitler had a great idea, which was put them in Madagascar.
If they'd done that, and it's 90 miles off the coast of South Africa in the Indian Ocean.
Well, who would want to live in their historical experience?
The thing is, they picked a place, you know, the Muslims are intractable.
Let me just say this: Muslims are intractable.
Look at the Crusades.
We would send a Christian army over and conquer it.
Two centuries later, it'd be back in Muslim hands.
You know, if there's ever a group that does not want to cede any type of territory at all to strangers, it's the Muslims and the Arabs.
All right.
Well, I mean, well, who can blame them?
Who can blame them?
I mean, this is the same thing.
These people have been fighting since the beginning of recorded history, and they will be fighting until Christ returns.
And that is just the way it's going to be.
And look, I don't want to see innocent Israeli babies blown up.
I don't want to see Palestinians blown up, but that's just the way they do things over there.
This is it.
It is not our war.
It is not our war.
I mean, we have nothing to do with it, and that's what we need to do rather than allow these war hawks and these neocons to draw us into yet another Middle Eastern conflict.
Well, I mean, and yeah, I totally agree.
And that goes back to like the main point that should be emphasized to everybody is just this would not be happening if it were not for American support, if it were not for American involvement and just unwavering diplomatic, financial, military support for Israel.
It's so one-sided.
And all of this really is a direct result of U.S. foreign policy.
How did we get to be so bamboozled, John?
All right, now, again, let's stay on this topic.
I mean, that's a good question.
And we know, I know where you're going.
It is true.
But I want to talk about the beheaded babies because, I mean, John, you had written as if it was still in question.
I was under the impression that it had been pretty much debunked and walked back.
Are we still in a gray area there?
Because I got some, I did a little digging during the three-minute commercial break, and I'll share with you some interesting takes.
But where are we at?
I mean, has that been, I mean, they were presenting it as fact.
It's certainly not a fact.
Whether it happened or not, it's certainly not a fact.
Joe Biden's saying he's seen it, but nobody's seen it because nobody provided any evidence of it.
And they would if they could.
No, I mean, as far as I know, this is a rumor.
This is just unverified testimony that has never been substantiated.
And I mean, even like, you know, I mentioned this earlier, even like mainstream media reports are coming out sort of walking this back, downplaying it, saying, look, you know, none of this is actually verified.
So yeah, no, this is very much not at all confirmed.
But the emotional nature of it, the way it's picked up and amplified by not only, you know, mainstream politicians in the United States and around the world, but the mass media.
I don't know.
I mean, I've been watching like, I mean, I listen to like a guy like Dan Bongino, for example, who's like a mainstream conservative guy, who actually says a lot of good things.
Yeah, but it's just amazing.
It's just amazing how these people just blindly accept this Zionist, obvious, like fake news.
Well, no propaganda.
There ain't no propaganda like war propaganda.
And when they lie about things like this, you wonder what else they've been lying about going back to other wars throughout history.
But here.
Absolutely.
Now, listen, listen, I got something here for you, gentlemen.
And this is now, well, first, a quote and an insight from Brad Griffin.
No show is complete without it.
He writes a fire hose of unverified war propaganda to justify savagery and a wider war with Iran is most likely what's going on here with regards to this propaganda.
But this thing about beheaded babies, now Max Blumenthal, Max Blumenthal is one of our Jewish friends who has denounced me quite harshly in the past.
So when I quote him, know that I quote him, even though I know that he is an opponent of ours.
But Max Blumenthal has an interesting take here.
Max Blumenthal writes, so far, the lone source for the claim that 40 babies were beheaded was Nicole Ziedik, an Israeli state-sponsored media reporter citing unnamed soldiers.
She has since issued a clarification.
Max Blumenthal in a separate statement continues, the story behind the beheaded babies originated from one source, an Israeli reservist who also led riots against the Palestinians earlier this year and who is a member of an apocalyptic cult dedicated to Palestine's destruction.
So, again, this lie was printed in newspapers around the world before the truth could get its boots on.
Now, here's an honest Israeli journalist, though.
And to his credit, I give him, his name is Oren Ziv, and you'll have the last word, John.
An honest Israeli journalist, I think, has debunked it.
And again, to his credit, Oren Zeev writes, I'm getting a lot of questions about the reports of Hamas beheaded babies that were published after the media tour in a village.
During the tour, we didn't see any evidence of this, and the army commanders also didn't make any mention of it.
Well, it sounds a lot like, you know, remember when Bashar al-Assad was accused of quote-unquote gassing kids and gassing his own people in Syria?
There you go.
It's Saddam Abbas.
It's the same tactics.
Yeah, it's the same exact crap.
Same thing what's going on in Ukraine with reports of all these alleged war crimes.
It's the same fake news.
It's the same fake atrocity propaganda.
By the way, Keith Woods, who I mentioned was like, I mean, this guy is just incredible.
He's just like systematically debunking all of these claims in real time on Twitter.
It's incredible.
He was actually saying, yeah, you said David Ben Zion, yeah.
He's like the settler that has been like the only source of this claim of beheaded dead babies.
I mean, it's just, it's insane that this would be picked up and amplified and run with uncritically.
I mean, the whole point of journalism is to verify these things before you start reporting them as facts.
And that's been totally like not at all how we've been doing things for a very long time in the West.
But certainly when it comes to these events, none of these so-called liberals have anything to say to try to, you know, what about the interests of the Palestinians?
What are they being run over roughshod?
This is a, you know, this is, you know, a terrible injustice.
Okay.
Nobody says anything like that.
The enemy of our enemy is not always our friends.
The Palestinian, the Arabs, the Muslims have never been a friend of European people either.
And again, I want to keep a clear head about this.
On the other hand, we want to be objective.
We want to say, you know, there are two sides to every one of these type of arguments.
And the Palestinian side is missing in action, totally.
John, final word to you.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I guess I would just say that, like, we have, this is all a result of U.S. foreign policy.
And look at how American politicians across the political spectrum, the Democrats, the Republicans, even an independent like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., they all are towing the Zionist line, the pro-Israel line.
They're more upset about this attack than American citizens being murdered by illegal aliens, by our border being violated on a daily basis with untold numbers of refugee, quote-unquote, refugees and asylum seekers pouring into this country.
They care more about a foreign government, a foreign people, than their own country.
And that is so apparent, so crystal clear, so obvious at this point.
It's outrageous and unacceptable.
All right, folks, if you want to hear, if you want to hear more, check out the American Free Press podcast with another one of our friends, Jose Niño.
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John, thank you for coming on again tonight and enjoy the rest of your night.
I know you're getting ready to go out and party a little bit and enjoy that downtime.
Every soldier needs a furlough.
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Kevin McDonald is up next.
All prom after that.
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A triumvirate, Keith.
That's right.
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