May 6, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to TPC.
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But first, another first for TPC.
We've got three program mainstays all on the line at the same time for this first hour.
Dr. Kevin McDonald, former Croatian diplomat Tom Sunich, and Canadian free speech activist Paul Fromm.
Now, these are all program regulars, and they were also all banned from Twitter at the exact same time on the exact same day, Monday morning, April 24th.
Now, we talked about this a little bit last week.
I read my statement.
I was included in that company of Tweeters of the Damned, and Dr. McDonald was good enough to run my statement on his website, The Occidental Observer.
But now we're going to have a roundtable conversation about not just that, but free speech in general, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and so much more.
Gentlemen, I want to welcome you all collectively to the broadcast.
Always good to talk to you.
Especially going to be fun tonight to talk to you all at once.
How are you doing?
Thank you very much, James, and all my best.
My best regards to all of you.
Yes, yes, sir.
Always good to hear.
No, go ahead, Paul.
It's Paul Fromm from Canada.
Yeah, greetings to all the other great panelists.
And maybe I'm naive, but I'm a little bit disappointed.
I expected better from Elon Musk.
Twitter had been pretty good since he'd taken over.
Far less purgings and far more open speech.
It'd be very interesting to know what happened, and I wonder if we might not get a senior movement lawyer to communicate higher up the...
The big question is why?
And that's what we want you guys to do.
Well, of course, Jared Taylor, who was banned some years ago, took this to court out in California and was basically run out.
I heard actually about this first from Tom Sunich, who had texted me saying, hey, I'm banned.
Can you get on Twitter and see what's going on?
And I got on there and I find out that I was banned too.
That's why Kevin was banned.
Paul emailed me and said he was banned.
And so obviously, Kevin, and here's what we'll do.
We'll make this as brief as possible, our comments.
We can all engage in the conversation and everybody get a little time.
But Kevin, I mean, obviously it had to have appeared that a list was handed down to someone from someone and this thing was executed because the fact that we would all go at the same time after having been on there for so many years is suspect to say the least.
This reminds me of what happened after Charlottesville.
Suddenly, all sorts of groups, including ones like the Institute for Historical, I mean, yeah, the Institute for Historical Review, which have not been involved in Charlottesville at all.
It was if a list was handed to some of the big companies that take credit cards and so on, and people were purged right, left, and center.
Well, there was a lot of purging through the old regime.
Coincidentally, or interestingly, the three of us, the four of us, all thrived during the woke regime, only to be banned by the Musk Twitter folks.
But let's go to Kevin here.
Kevin, you found out about it that Monday morning.
Your thoughts on all of this and the fact that it all happened to so many at once, the timing, the why, the who, the when.
I mean, it was very suspect.
Yeah, it's very disappointing, too.
And yeah, I expected more from Elon Musk.
I suspect it may not be him.
He may not know.
I mean, he's a very busy guy.
He's got all these big companies and thousands of employees.
And so it's not clear that he knows.
He's still virtue signaling about his commitment to free speech on Twitter and elsewhere in interviews.
But yeah, I was taking Twitter very seriously.
Now, I was shadow banned for years on Twitter.
And I saw my follower count stay around 32,000 or something.
And ever since he got ownership, it's started going up, and now it's like 44 or something.
And then all of a sudden I'm off.
And it says permanently.
It doesn't say, you know, it's not like they flagged a certain tweet.
I've tried to be very careful what I tweet.
I know that, you know, there are limits, but that wasn't good enough.
And here I am.
I'm on Gab now, but it's not the same for me.
You know, there are hardly any, I get seven likes compared to, you know, 100 likes or 200, whatever.
You know, it's ridiculous.
And it's very convoluted.
James, we all used very, very nice and fine language, convoluted sentences.
And I'm truly, I was surprised this happened.
The same thing happened the same day to me as it happened to Kevin and other folks.
And I'm particularly surprised because I know firsthand, I'm not going to mention the names, there are some quote-unquote Hollywood Nazis or whatever radical folks who are still being published or actually posted on Twitter.
Whereas we, academics, so to speak, we're just being purged just like during the communism.
So I guess that's something you've got to consider also.
And I'm really shocked, you know, at the behavior of Elon Musk.
And I just can't believe that I can, and it still comes as a shock.
And let alone, you know, I got to also underline that we posted our comments to some of our essays on Occidental Observer.
And also, I got to commend my friends, my colleagues from the publisher Arctos Publishers, both in Sweden and in England and also in Hungary.
They've been quite active in deep, in fact, helping us with our cause and writing around.
And I certainly would like to extend my grievance to all of them.
Well, you know, Tom, you bring up a good point, as you always do.
And you would drive yourself mad trying to make sense of this.
No sense can be made of it.
But yes, somebody had mentioned in one of the comments on Kevin's website about this, because Kevin had posted a statement from you, a statement from himself, and a statement from me.
And it generated a lot of traffic and comments last week at the Occidental Observer.
But people were saying that Elon Musk may drone on about free speech while still taking out the people he's told to take out.
And as you mentioned, Tom, there are people who are certainly much more obtuse than us in their presentation of our issues who are allowed to exist, perhaps in the vein or in the fan of free speech, whereas people who do the work very seriously and effectively are the ones that are being taken out.
Paul, would you comment to that?
Yeah, I'm of two minds.
First of all, I'd like to believe Musk.
I think he's a maverick, and he certainly put up with a lot of crap.
I'm wondering if what has happened is an employee either out of a misguided woke valor or wishing to sabotage has encouraged a whole lot of us or acting all this and being given to him.
I wouldn't put that past what's happening.
That's why I wonder if we can't get a senior person or a lawyer to try to get in touch higher up the food chain with Musk or somebody higher up.
I mean, maybe this is exactly as it appears.
Musk is a hypocrite and we're being censored, but I'd like to think differently.
We're going to get to that.
I've got some very interesting news and information that has come to light just this morning.
And we'll try to make sense of these three outstanding guests.
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Why was I?
Why were Tom Soonich and Kevin MacDonald and Paul Fromm and others?
By the way, it wasn't just the four of us.
There was many, many more people that we know personally and through various associations that were banned at the same time on the same morning, Monday, April the 24th.
We won't ever truly know the answer.
I think the one thing that we can stand fairly certain on is that we're probably not going to be coming back to Twitter.
I know we've all appealed these things and there's been no response.
No, we stand by our decision.
No, we had a mistake or no answer whatsoever.
But Keith, again, just one more question about this.
And I want to submit to the panel.
And by the way, a little bit later this hour, Tom Sunich is going to draw some parallels between where we are now in America versus where some of the ex-Soviet states were towards the end of their regime.
But Keith, a quick question for the panel.
We'll let Kevin go first, then Paul, then Tom.
Okay, gentlemen, are you sure that this is something that Elon Musk approved and directed?
Or do you think there might be a fifth column of old-timers left at Twitter that got a message from some outside source and acted without Elon Musk's knowledge or permission?
See, that's the thing.
I mean, we're just never going to know.
Was the list given to somebody who still works at Twitter from one of these left-wing radical organizations, or did somebody at Twitter arbitrarily do this?
Was Musk in on it?
There's so much coordination, though.
The thing is, Tucker Carlson.
Well, somebody was there was definitely coordination.
I mean, this wasn't as if we were all kind of picked off one by one at separate times.
The fact that we all went at the same time.
Anyway, Tucker Carlson.
Who wants to take that first?
I want to come back to my discussion.
It may well have been a rogue employee.
Now, it may not have been, but that's why I think it's important to try to contact as high up in the organization as we can.
These online appeals are for the birds.
I've appealed, I think, four times.
I've gotten nothing back, not even.
I did get an acknowledgement, but no details.
And like the rest of you, no information about what horrible thing I said or did.
As far as I was concerned, there wasn't anything I've done recently that's any different from things I was doing six months ago.
Well, that's exactly.
And again, Jared Taylor banned some years ago.
We were banned now.
We could have been banned years ago or years from now.
Just it's really a mystery.
But let's let Tom Sunich take this one.
And then, Kevin, I want to come back to you with what I had texted you this morning because I think this is really going to be interesting to the audience.
But Tom, a comment?
Yes, very briefly.
Well, listen, this is not really a surprise for me, and it shouldn't be a surprise for all of us here and your listeners.
This is just a general process going on in the U.S. and EU academia, in the mainstream media.
I guess we are literally witnessing now the process of, I probably put it in the quotation marks, of recommunization of the rise of the surge of the neo-Bolshevik or crypto-Bolshevik spirit.
Of course, it doesn't come out openly.
You know, Joe Biden, or for that matter, his crew, but look at the pedigree of his crew.
They're not going to call themselves, they're not going to label themselves as Bolsheviks or Trotsky's.
But the fact of the matter is, as far as the mindset of these people is concerned, including the mindset of people on the CNN or Washington Post, New York Times, Sudeutsche Zeitung Le Monde, and so on, all these mainstream media, they're using more or less in this communist lingo.
And this is one of my, as a philologist, this is one of my fields.
So I would certainly urge your listeners to study carefully the lingo of our elites.
Now, I do see, for instance, a great deal of similarities in terms of the lexic, in terms of syntax as well.
Course, the semantical divergence between the former pravda, between the former communist, Yugoslav communist judiciary, and the actual judiciary and the communist and the liberal, liberal mainstream media in the United States of America.
Just study carefully those words.
And I don't know, I wouldn't like to take too much of your time.
Study, for instance, the instance, the words like hate speech or affirmative action and offer the ethnic sensitivity training.
These are all very abstract words.
Now, keep in mind one of the characteristics of the totalitarianism is the usage of abstract words.
They're not specific enough.
They're very liquid.
They're very fluid.
For instance, when you say hate speech, we had a similar expression back in communist Yugoslavia where I grew up, you know, back in the 60s and 70s.
We used the term, it was widespread, not just in the mainstream media, but also in the judiciary, was the term hostile propaganda, nepriateska propaganda.
It's very hard to translate it into English, but basically you get the same idea of this hate speech, because under the cover of hate speech, you can basically sentence, you can send people, you can actually send them into spiritual gulags.
And in fact, I'm proud, in fact, that I'm using, and I'm grateful also to Kevin McDonald because we are writing about this quite extensively in our essays on Occidental Observer, Occidental or Quarterly.
So I would certainly urge your listeners to study some of our pieces that were quite referenced, very well written.
So again, I wouldn't like to take up too much of your time, and I would certainly like to sound out a little bit Kevin and see how he can follow up on what I've just said.
Yeah, and we will circle back to this before the end of the hour.
Kevin, do you want to touch on any of that?
Well, yeah, I think we are seeing more and more censorship in general.
For example, Tucker Carlson.
Tucker Carlson just got canceled off of Fox.
And the ADL was thrilled about that because they've accused him of anti-Semitism.
They've accused him of racism.
It's unclear exactly why he was fired, but certainly those comments didn't endear them to the people who really run our country.
And the ADL has been at the forefront of abolishing free speech.
And so it's no surprise.
And they are, especially with the old Twitter, I was sure that the ADL, I think I've read things, that the ADL was involved with Twitter.
And I know the government was.
The Twitter files came out and showed that very clearly, that the government was pressuring Twitter on vaccines and this, that, and the other thing.
But I've never seen anything that the ADL was involved in that.
But they're very happy about us getting banned.
I mean, that's one thing I enjoyed about Twitter.
I followed the ADL and I would retweet them and get some nasty comment about how hypocritical it is or how plain wrong it is.
I never got flagged for that because I was absolutely right about it.
So there we are.
But they have the power.
And we have to realize that.
Tweeters of the damned.
You can't find these guys on Twitter anymore, but you can still hear them here at TPC.
Now, I've been teasing that I'm going to share something with you that I think perhaps will surprise you.
It's certainly going to confuse you in light of what we're talking about.
But we might save that for the next segment because we only have a minute or two left in this one.
Paul, do you want to jump in on this?
Yeah, I agree with Tom about the Recommunization of our society.
The window for discussion gets narrower and narrower, not just on the media, but in schools and elsewhere.
It's insanity.
Okay.
People are losing the money.
I guess I could go on and on and just see.
And you can see that in the mindset, look, especially in EU academia, I've been canceled on so many occasions.
In fact, I was supposed to give a lecture at some major universities here in Western Europe, you know, and so on, but it was all canceled when they found out about me being a whatever white supremacist or white nationalist.
By the way, I also got it on the line.
I keep harping on it over and over again.
Those expressions like hate speech, white supremacist, white nationalists, it's very hard to translate them into standard French, German, or Croatian for that matter.
These are all imported expressions, and we've got to ask ourselves a question.
Who actually coined those English expressions in the first place?
Now, Kevin McDonald has very well said that just scan, for instance, the ADL website or SPLC website, you'll find there's a flurry of those words.
It's an overkill of those words, you know.
This is typically of the liberal system.
On the one hand, they use this hyperbolic language as far as this glorious future is concerned, just like in ex-communist Yugoslavia, just like in the Soviet Union back in the 50s, 60s.
And on the other hand, they use the process of demonology.
And I guess probably they should probably launch it at the social science departments.
They should launch at the Department of Demonology where all those guys are sort of ranked or classified as demons, as fascists, as Nazis.
These words are completely, they have completely become trivialized.
They mean nothing.
Hold on right there, gentlemen.
Gentlemen and scholars, and each of you are certainly both of those things.
We've got to take another break.
Kevin McDonald, Tom Sunich, Paul Fromm, all on your radio all at once here on PPC.
Come on with James and Teeth.
We'll be right back.
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Back with you we are, ladies and gentlemen, And for the first time in nearly 20 years on the radio, we have three all-star guests all on, not just in the same hour.
We've had multiple guests in the same hour before in different segments or splitting up the time, but all together at once.
This is a new thing for us, and we're working our way through it.
Dr. Kevin McDonald, Dr. Tomislav Sunich, and Paul Fromm.
Now, here's the thing that I thought was interesting.
And Kevin, you and I were texting about this.
We'll let you have a go at this first, then Paul, then Tom.
There is a pro-white advocate from Ireland by the name of Keith Woods.
And he's never been on this program before, but I'm very familiar with his work.
He does his work very seriously and presents the issues in an effective way, as we were talking about earlier.
He gets a lot of engagement on Twitter, but never more than he has in just the past few days.
And some of it deals with our very bands, but also tangentially related issues.
Now, Elon Musk, I believe either on the same day or the day after we were banned, Elon Musk tweeted out the following message: censor not lest ye be censored.
To that, Keith Woods replied directly to Musk, banned in the past week, Dr. Kevin McDonald, James Edwards, Tom Sunich, and he listed some others, obviously Paul Fromm included, in that.
And it received nearly a quarter of a million views.
And again, Musk was tagged directly to that.
So I would, with that much engagement, you would think he probably saw it.
But here's the thing.
One of Keith Woods' very next tweets about the draconian anti-free speech legislation that was just passed in Ireland got a direct response from Elon Musk just right after all of this engagement about our bannings and this Musk replied to.
So, and here's the thing too.
Get this.
This is where I think the thing really becomes a little bit schizophrenic.
Donald Trump Jr. retweeted Keith Woods' comment.
Okay.
The comment was, Ireland is about to pass one of the most radical hate speech bills yet.
Merely possessing hateful material on your devices is enough to face prison time.
It gets retweeted by Donald Trump Jr.
It gets a direct response from Elon Musk.
This is like the tweet after he brings attention to our bannings.
And here's the thing, though.
So we saw this today, Kevin.
There is a Twitter profile by the name of End Wokeness, and this is an anonymous account, but it gets huge engagement and interaction.
And he posted a graphic of interracial violent crime incidents.
And the caption reads, perspective is everything.
And it's got the 10 to 1 ratio of black on white violent crime incidents.
And then it has the one out of 10 where it's white on black.
And it has an old news media camera zoomed in up close on the white on black crime.
And to that, Elon Musk himself replied, drawing attention to this.
Odd, why would the media misrepresent the real situation to such an extreme degree?
So he's bringing attention to our very issues in a way, amplifying them in a way that we never could.
I mean, obviously, Elon Musk's reach is far greater than ours.
It does seem like there's a little bit of schizophrenia going on, Kevin?
Yeah, I mean, actually, I used to follow End Wokeness, and I retweeted him a whole lot because, you know, the black-on-white crime is a big deal, obviously.
And all the anti-white hate that you see, that's one of my big issues.
And I kept retweeting it.
And now, you know, he seems to be aware of this.
And the thing by Keith Wood is his name, that he's 220,000 retweets or something.
That's incredible.
Donald Trump Jr., he's got to be aware of this.
I mean, at least it suggests that.
I know he's a busy guy, but he's got to do something about this if he wants to keep spotting off about free speech.
Donald Trump Jr. responded to this directly.
It's insane what's happening in Ireland, is happening in the free world.
You're talking about millions and millions and millions of views because of Musk, Keith Woods, and Donald Trump Jr.'s collaboration.
Now, I know back in the campaign, of course, the first campaign, Trump Jr. appeared on this program.
He was retweeting you as well, Kevin.
So we've seen these things before.
But here's the point is, here's Keith Woods, a very responsible pro-white advocate, getting this huge engagement, and he's still there.
And I'm glad that he's still there.
I don't want him to be banned, but it just doesn't make any sense.
But Paul, you had a great line on this situation in Ireland, that Irish nationalists fought English occupation for 400 years and then let third world immigration and globalist leaders take them out.
Yeah, as far as I can tell, with hardly any opposition, the Irish nationalists would have actually killed another Irish nationalist that wasn't quite as militant as they.
They all seem to have disappeared or gotten fat, enjoyed their power, and then passed on.
And, you know, the cause of keeping Ireland in some sense Irish.
They've been done in by third world immigration, cornerback from the top in a way that the British never did.
It never could.
And the power of political correctness.
Yeah.
Tom, do you want to jump in on this?
This is probably an irony of history, Paul, because now back in Eastern Europe, you know, with all due consideration, there is quote-unquote more freedom of speech than in Western Europe, you know.
Because folks in Hungary, in Croatia, we still do not have in Croatia, we don't have this anti-Holocaust denial law.
Still certain things that you can debate freely and openly.
For the time being, it's going to get worse.
There's no question about that.
But I guess that's an irony of history that in Western Europe, especially in Germany, where they also have very weird, weird wordings for their criminal code.
I could now cite and cite things that are completely untranslatable in English.
Just one little thing, I need to make this remark.
There's a paragraph 133 called Folksferhetzung in Germany, which literally has sent over the last 10 years thousands of people to prison sentences and, of course, big fines and so on.
Those words, for an American lawyer to translate this paragraph, this clause, this legal clause, it's virtually impossible.
So please do study, especially students, I'm repealing to them, do study the language, the lingo, the meta-language of the judiciary in Germany and France, and vice versa.
If you want to figure out, you know, for instance, if somebody in France wants to figure out the German, the U.S. judiciary, the criminal code, he has to know very well the language and, of course, what is behind this language.
And this refers also as far as the judiciary in Europe is concerned.
Now, again, you have to make a clear-cut decision.
I just want to be clear here.
In Western Europe, for the time being, despite the fact that we're all in the European Union, there is certainly much less freedom of speech than in Eastern Europe.
I got a bit of a laugh.
I guess about a week and a half ago, the Russian court sentenced some dissident to 25 years in prison.
And the European Union immediately tweeted or put out a statement that Russia should let all political people in prison for their politics, let them go free.
To which I would say, hooray.
But does hypocrisy not mean anything?
There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of people in jails in Germany, in France, in Austria, for the nonviolent expression of their political or racial views.
In other words, they're political prisoners, like my friend, the Canadian Monica Schaefer and her brother Alfred Schaefer, and many, many, many others.
I just wanted to, do these people have no sense of hypocrisy or even irony?
I don't know, man.
Paul is quite right.
In fact, we are now talking about the Uyghurs.
We are talking about Tibetans in China.
We are talking about some lost tribes in East Timor and so on.
Now, keep in mind, and I would like to just recap what Paul has just said, literally octogenarians, not octogen, non-agenarians.
I don't know why.
They're 100 and something years old, like this woman who was sentenced recently in Germany, 102 and 3, to a long prison sentence.
I guess this is a standard scenario in Western Europe, in particular in Germany.
So forget about the freedom of speech.
That's just Bologna.
Anyway, thanks, Paul, for bringing this up.
One thing we can do, considering, you know, even in America, when people say, you know, it's good to live in a free country, I think it's worthwhile to confront them and challenge them and say, Do you really believe that?
Why can't you?
Even Twitter is no longer free.
Or people say, well, don't quote me on it.
I can't say anything.
And I come back and say, well, you want to tell me you live in a free country, but you're afraid to say something?
That's not a free country.
You know, it's a complete reversal of Western culture.
All these freedoms came from the West.
And, you know, now they're completely taking them away.
We are losing Western civilization.
And that's the bottom line.
That's why Western Europe, especially, you know, they invented these things.
You think about the UK.
It used to be a free country.
Forget about it now.
Hold on right there, gentlemen.
We will be back.
One more segment with the three of you program mainstays to be sure this wide-ranging roundtable discussion with Kevin McDonald, Tom Sunich, and Paul Fromm will continue.
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Can't tell you how much I enjoyed March Around the World and Confederate History Month, but it's great to be back to business as usual as well.
It's all in the ebb and flow of our broadcast calendar, but tonight to be surrounded by, in a manner of speaking, I guess on the radio, Kevin and Tom and Paul, just great company, great fellowship, and a great conversation.
So I just want to, we'll transition just a moment to Tucker Carlson.
But again, we were talking about Keith Woods, the Irish nationalist.
He wrote today, now he just got reinstated a month ago.
All right.
So think about this.
And he writes that today is one month since my account was reinstated.
Since then, I've added over 10,000 new followers.
My tweet on the Irish hate speech law reached over 11 million people.
It was replied to by Elon Musk.
And by the way, when Elon Musk, Elon Musk has 139 million followers on Twitter, when he responds to a tweet, when he retweets something, it's being seen by that action alone by millions of people.
He's drawing attention to anti-free speech laws in Ireland, to interracial crime statistics, okay, while we're being banned.
He's like E.F. Hutton.
When he speaks, everybody listens.
It's a schizophrenia type of thing going on.
Retweeted by Donald Trump Jr. and Jordan Peterson.
This is again Keith Woods writing here.
Opposition politicians to the Irish law are now coming out to say that they oppose the law.
Media finally giving that coverage because of Keith Woods and the interaction his tweets had because of Donald Trump Jr. and Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson.
The no hate speech laws hashtag was trending.
And what he writes here, gentlemen, is I think the key.
If what we did here, and he's talking about here being on Twitter, didn't matter, they wouldn't put so much energy into silencing us.
And I had someone, we received a lot of emails after the bans, after the mass bannings that we all endured that morning.
Somebody reminded me, and I hadn't forgotten, but I appreciate the reminder.
He writes, I just wanted to write briefly to see if you recall when you, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, et cetera, were on a list of descending order as influences for Trump's election.
They wouldn't be limiting your influence if you didn't have it.
I suppose that's the beginning of it, and that's the end of it.
We're getting banned because we're effective and we do the work the right way.
And Jared Taylor, so many others have been banned.
Some are coming back.
It really doesn't make sense.
But the fact that Tucker Carlson's firing took place that same Monday morning, I don't know if that's coincidental.
It's certainly interesting.
And there's been a lot of theories why he was fired, ranging from the Dominion voting lawsuit to the lawsuit that was brought about by Abby Grossman.
We talked about that last week.
To now this newly leaked thing about Tucker commenting that white men don't fight like that.
There was a gang beating.
It was actually three whites on an Antifa guy, and he said white men don't fight like that.
And of course, the impression given there is that black people do fight like that.
The New York Times came out this week saying that's what he was really fired for.
Who knows?
But who was leaking this to the media?
I mean, that's the thing.
Somebody at Fox has to be leaking this to Media Matters.
They believe, I guess, Fox must believe that they can get their audience to turn on Tucker and then fall back in line and start watching this black host who was anchoring his chair this last week.
What a joke.
And this goes, I mean, establishment conservatives always believe they'll find a pot of black Republicans at the end of the rainbow.
But anyway, Kevin, we'll go to Kevin, then Paul, then Tom.
Your thoughts on Tucker Carlson, and then I'm going to really bring this to a head.
Well, yeah, Kevin, Kevin, you wrote an article for UNS thoughts about Tucker, if I'm not mistaken, or rather, you wrote it for your own website and UNS syndicated it.
Yeah.
It's very interesting.
And, you know, Tucker violated so many of the sort of taboos.
You know, he was very edgy compared to the rest of them.
You think of someone like Sean Hannity, slavishly pro-Israel.
You know, against immigration, but only illegal immigration.
Tucker really got into it and posted the war in Ukraine and talked about the negative consequences.
There were all kinds of things that he did that these other people did not do.
They didn't touch those issues on Fox.
And so I really think it was what he was saying on his show that he was a huge voice.
He had the biggest audience on cable.
And they got rid of him.
But apparently, Fox's ratings are down like 40% Across the board and more and higher than that on the five on the five o'clock New York hour where he used to be.
So, you know, it'd be interesting to see.
The other problem is that there's a lot of talk that he can't go anywhere else until Fox sort of allows him.
He's still in track of that's right, because he's still under contract.
He's still going to be getting paid not to work, but that also blocks him from going somewhere else, or at least so is the theory.
Now, Fox's ratings may go up next week because they're going to have Kaylee McEnany sitting in Tucker's chair.
And I know Keith, you'll be tuning in.
No, she is.
Well, no, I mean, you'll tune in to look at Kaylee.
I know you, Keith.
But very quickly, listen to her.
Well, she was better than the two they've had so far.
Anyway, but let's do very quickly to Paul, then to Tom, and then I've got a provocative question for all of y'all.
And we've only got about five minutes remaining.
Paul, go.
I was a great admirer of Tucker Carlson, and I would say on many issues, immigration, crime, American foreign wars, he went about as far with us being James Edwards.
He was a breath of fresh air.
He really was.
He was really hitting hard and hitting well.
And I wouldn't be, I read this.
This is probably a somewhat leftist commentator, but he thought that Tucker Carlson was really purged because of his ongoing critique of American wars, especially the war in the Ukraine.
Yeah, that's a big deal.
Tom, did you catch Tucker all the way over there in Zagreb?
Sure.
Well, listen, I put it the other way.
I look at those who are gloating most over his departure.
And you just look at the names of those and the agencies, and I guess everything will be crystal clear.
Just look at the lingo of Greenblatt for the ADL and SPLC, and you know exactly who is pulling the strings.
He has all the right enemies.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I guess that's the whole point.
He's one of the rare persons, I should say, with character.
And of course, we may agree on certain issues, on certain issues.
We may not agree with him.
But I'm very, very much concerned.
It's my final point with the lack, actually, with the downfall, how can I put it, of freedom of speech, of academic free speech in the United States of America?
These are bad news, and I guess we have to fight fight for free speech.
One little point.
I was told by somebody at the Charles Martell Society a long time ago that Tucker Carlson believes everything that we do, the people at Charles Martell, except that he sort of cools it.
So, I mean, he does understand the situation, I think.
And we'll see how far he goes, but he gets it.
Well, it's going to be interesting to see where he lands and what he does now that he's unencumbered by network news.
Or if they will keep a sock stuffed in his mouth until the end of the election in 2024.
Maybe he gets banned from Twitter next.
We'll see.
But here's the provocative question, guys.
And I wrote this in my, I was so, I've been banned from everywhere.
So I guess the only surprise was that it took Twitter this long to ban all of us, but I was irritated by it enough to engage in the cathartic exercise of writing about it.
And Kevin, you and Jared Tato were both good enough to, unsolicited, I might add, post this to your websites, my little musings on the ban.
But I said, and I do believe this.
I will appeal to people's sense of freedom of speech if it benefits our side.
But if the shoe was on the other foot, gentlemen, I don't have any problem saying this.
I would do the exact same thing to them as they've done to us.
I don't believe in free speech.
I don't believe that the kind of speech and the kind of things that our enemies are advocating for have any place in our society, in our ethno-state or even in our multicultural state.
If I had the power to do it, I would ban them.
I would do everything they've done to us and more.
Am I wrong in thinking that way?
Am I hypocritical?
Kevin, then Paul, then Tom, to close us out.
Kevin, go.
No, you're absolutely right.
This is the problem that we face.
It means getting our message out.
And Tucker was close to what we want to hear people in the media say.
And I firmly believe that that is ultimately what did I mean.
Paul, to you, my friend.
And again, I mean, we talk about freedom of speech and how terrible it is that our freedom of speech has been squelched on these basically public utilities.
I mean, you're talking about Twitter.
Okay, it's a private company, but is it?
I mean, that's really the only place to go to get the message out for so many people.
But I would do the same thing to them.
So can I really complain?
I almost admire them for being more ruthless than our people.
Well, they have monies.
Hold on one second, Tom.
We're going to let you close it.
Paul, one minute.
Go, Paul.
I'm a bit uncomfortable with that.
However, I think we would probably have to declare a state of national emergency until we could get things under control.
So maybe we end up in the same place.
Well, listen, and I totally admit and could see people disagreeing with me on that.
But what are we talking about?
We're talking about transgenderism, this whole thing, lopping off genitals and sex organs and castrating children.
I don't think that that has a plan.
I mean, that's just one example of many that I would draw the line on.
So, Tom, with a minute remaining, I want to thank you all for being with us for this roundtable discussion.
But am I wrong to say, hey, my freedom of speech has been violated?
But in my heart, I would do the same thing.
Yeah, I will just say I am using my old cliché, my old platitude, my old slogan, communism fell apart in the East, in Eastern Europe, if you wish, because many, many of its principles have been far better implemented in the West, of course, with a different nomen and the different lexi.
So basically, what you have now in the United States, especially in academia and the mainstream media, is the replica of what we went through back in the 60s and 70s in communist Yugoslavia and the Warsaw Pact and the Soviet Union.
It's a different communism has been replaced with cultural Marxism over here and cultural Marxism.
Absolutely.
We'll call it cultural Marxism.
I call it crypto-communism.
I call it crypto-Bolshevism.
Well, even if you look at the pedigree of those people, I'm not going to single out the names.
You'll be surprised to find out that their roots go back, you know, to certain places in Ukraine and certain places in Western Russia.
So basically, nobody but Kevin McDonald knows exactly how accurate that is.
Ladies and gentlemen, three of the very best our movement has to offer.
I mean, we're talking about lifetime contributors.
These men represent the gold standard, Dr. Kevin McDonald, Dr. Tomislav Sunich, and Paul Fromm.
Find them on their websites.
Gentlemen, we will continue to communicate any way we can, even if we have to run Keith with a tin can in a string from Memphis to Zagreb and Idaho into Canada.
I will find you.
We won't find each other on Twitter, but we'll find each other somewhere.
And thank you all for being a part of this very special hour of broadcasting collectively.