Oct. 9, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
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Our guest this evening, and we are going to mix things up a little bit by going to our featured guest of the night right out of the gate here in this our first hour, Brad Griffin, the founder and editor-in-chief of Occidental Descent.
Brad was with us for a very lively installment of TPC just a couple of weeks ago down in Alabama with some other longtime friends.
And as you know, probably about once a show, we cite Brad's work at occidentaldescent.com.
But he had so many provocative stories in the last week, I just said, well, we got to get Brad on it for the full hour.
So Brad, how are you?
Doing good, James.
How are you?
We are doing fantastic, my friend.
And, well, again, without further ado, let's just dive right in.
Why don't we tonight?
So I have selected four of your recent writings at OD, and I'd like to follow them in an order that I think will flow quite well as this conversation continues to develop.
But the first one was your article talking about how essentially Merrick Garland's Department of Social Justice has unleashed the FBI on school moms who dare to oppose critical race theory.
You write at Occidental Descent.
In a crisis, extreme actions become the norm, and Merrick Garland's Social Justice Department is undermining local police departments and sending FBI after anti-CRT parents.
This is a symptom of this.
The same is true of weaponizing the intelligence community against the Trump campaign, ideological purges of the military, internet censorship, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff undermining the president, et cetera, et cetera.
You write, Brad, that we're not returning to normal, nor are we living in normal times anymore, whether it's in preaching the president on a whim, the Capitol Siege, the soaring support for secession, or two-thirds of the opposition party seeing the president as illegitimate.
You see this as a trend line towards increasingly radicalization and political instability.
The political climate still heats up.
How is that a good thing for us?
I guess it has to be a good thing when your local mom who doesn't want anal sex talked to their kids in fourth graders are now being called Nazis and extremists and domestic terrorists as well, right, Brad?
Yeah, I mean, Joe Biden was elected president based on largely on his promise that things would somehow, you know, simmer down, return to normal.
But we've clearly seen the exact opposite of that ever since he came into office.
And, you know, I just look at that list of things right there is, I mean, can you in your memory, can you in your lifetime think of any precedent for this?
And it's something, it's something new, it seems, every day.
A good example of this is, I did include in that list, is that people who, you know, are opposed to the COVID vaccine are not receiving organ transplants in hospitals now.
I mean, this just seems like, you know, like just increasingly wild swings.
You know, things are destabilizing in my view.
And that list, you know, just nails it right there.
I mean, things are continuing to heat up.
The political establishment is more out of control.
It gets more so by the day.
And I just, you know, see this spiraling.
What about you?
Well, this is Keith.
How are you doing, Brad?
I'm doing good, Keith.
How are you?
I'm doing great.
Let me just say this.
What this is doing is the mask is off.
Now, you know, the mask has been on since right after World War II, as you've pointed out.
That's when the Jews decided to go on this racial initiative as a way to deconstruct America.
And everything they did was cloaked in benevolence, but actually motivated by malevolence.
Like the civil rights movement wasn't pro-black, it was anti-white.
The feminist movement wasn't pro-female, it was anti-male.
The homosexual rights movement wasn't pro-homosexual.
It was anti-heterosexual.
Now they're not even bothering with the cloak or mantle of benevolence.
They're just coming after us, you know, with their fangs bared and their claws out.
And that's what's happening, I think, more and more.
And Merrick Garland, for example, also known as Merrick Garfinkel in his family lineage.
They changed their name from Garfinkel to Garland, I understand, at some point.
Remember when he was being proposed as a member of the Supreme Court and he was supposed to be somebody that no one could have any objection to.
He was so mainstream and moderate.
Well, we see now exactly how mainstream and moderate he really is and truly is.
And, you know, he is, you know, again, a Jew disguised as a goy that they're going to use against us.
You know, that's where all the animus comes from.
The more that I study this stuff, and I think you are probably of the same mind, the more I'm convinced that every bit of liberalism is destructive and is a Jewish invention.
And, you know, trying to teach children about sex education, of course, that's one of the big things that got, you know, Bella Kuhn's government out of power in 1919.
They had George Lukox, one of the original founders of cultural Marxism, who was the Minister of Education, who was proposing sex education like this in kindergarten.
So really, they haven't changed, have they?
No, no, not really.
I mean, I don't even know if James brought it up in that list, but speaking of Garland, one of his first acts was to start undermining local police departments by launching investigations of the Minneapolis, Louisville, and Phoenix police departments, which he accused of systemic racism and white supremacy.
And the fact that the Department of Justice is openly trying to undermine local law enforcement.
That's just, I mean, right there, like an extreme, extreme move.
And these things are, like you said, the mask is really off now.
And, you know, the elite that we have is just flexing raw power.
I mean, first it was, you know, censoring a few alt-right influencers like Milo Yiannopoulos.
And now it goes to the president of the United States in a few years.
That's a good place to leave the conversation here at the end of our first segment.
We're just getting started tonight.
And what we're going to be talking about, Brad, is not just these provocative topics like, hey, now school moms who don't want obscene perversion thrust upon their elementary school children being lumped into the same category as good people like us, things are spiraling out of control.
How could it play to our advantage?
We'll find out.
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Things are definitely getting wooly out there, that's for sure.
Now we have the school moms being lumped in.
We're being bullied, too.
A basket of deplorables.
I don't know, Keith.
We don't get bullied so much.
We like to punch back, but there are a lot of so-called conservatives who have.
We're going to talk about, though, that seed change, the undercurrent that's going on just underneath the veneer of the Republican Party with Brad Griffin, who has documented that as well, really truly better than anyone else.
And so, Brad, we have been citing these polls that you've published over the course of this year.
There have been two or three, for lack of a better word, mainstream polls that have fleshed out these very interesting statistics and data points.
Amrin, Jared Taylor just did their own a few days ago that found similar results.
And so basically, the headline of one of your excellent pieces of research here at occidentaldescent.com is a poll which suggests that 84% of Trump voters are worried about anti-white discrimination.
So what we have here, Brad, is, of course, the Republican establishment, people like Mitch McConnell, for instance, would love to go back to business as usual.
But I don't know post-Trump if you can get the Republican toothpaste back in the tube.
What's going on there?
And I think a lot of it as a result is, hey, they see, my God, we oppose critical race theory and we're this, we're that.
What's going on with the GOP base?
And how can that, again, this is the question we'll be revisiting this hour.
How can that play to a positive conclusion somewhere down the road for our people on this continent?
Well, I mean, it just reflects how radicalized the GOP base has become over just the last year or not or just the last two years.
I mean, this is not the first time we talked about this.
I remember at the very beginning of the year when I was so excited about, you know, look at this poll.
It shows that whites are waking up or whites are valuing their identity.
And this most recent poll, which found that 84% of Trump voters were concerned about anti-white discrimination, is exactly what was seen in that other poll back in February.
And it's like, I think, I really do think it was the George Floyd riots.
It was the sharp uptick.
That's good point.
I mean, maybe, maybe because, you know, we're so used to seeing things this way that there was really no change on our end.
But I mean, a lot of people, you know, that seems to, you know, the systemic racism stuff.
And you remember in the NFL last year, they had jerseys that said in racism.
And it was just like a mania obsession with this last year and into this year.
And that really seems to have snapped millions of people out of their, you know, complacency about this.
And I remember when we first, I remember when we first discussed this, I was like, you know, there's been a huge change.
Most people aren't picking up on it.
And then over the course of the last year, we've seen 60% of Republican voters now believe in the great replacement.
And this has gone mainstream.
It's talked about on Fox News.
And the term anti-white is used.
And that's not, that's the leaders reflecting to this change that's going on in their base.
They're being dragged along on this.
And then, of course, the polls came out about secession, where a crazy number of like 66% of Southern Republicans support secession, half of Southern independents.
And then people kind of dismissed that when it came out over the summer in one poll.
Then there was another poll just recently, which found the same thing, that over half of Trump supporters would support seceding from the union or the blue states leaving from the union.
And it just goes to show how vastly, like, I mean, we talked about how people are being radicalized.
The number of radicals in the population has just soared ever since Trump lost the election.
I mean, his own supporters, two-thirds of Republicans, believe it was stolen from them.
And the number's actually gone up.
And, Brad, I want to toss it back to Keith for a quick comment.
But when you're talking about X percentage of Trump voters, we remember Trump got 75 million votes by the reported count.
You're talking about millions, if not tens of millions of people who are beginning to think just like we always have.
That's numbers you can win with, Keith.
You're right.
We're on the verge of change, but if the change amounts to suddenly embracing Mark Levin and Rod Drew and Max Boot and Rich Lowry and people like that, then the more things change, the more they stay the same.
We've got to make a breakthrough on a couple of other fronts, too, like awareness of Jewish power and influence, for example.
And also the awareness that basically what the left is trying to do is foment a race war between whites and blacks.
And it's Jews that are doing this, like the kid in the 12, you know, the 12-year-old kid that always was trying to get the two biggest kids in the class to fight one another.
But, you know, he didn't want any part of the fight himself.
This is, you know, we've got to make that breakthrough, and we've got to let people understand that, for example, Mark Levin is not the answer, is not the medicine that you're seeking, okay?
And neither is Rich Lowry or people like that.
That's where we're going to have to, you know, insert ourselves.
You know, this 2022 election is a great opportunity, but I'm afraid it's going to pass by without anybody doing anything that will make a real change.
For example, getting people like Neil Kumar, who is running for the Ozark congressional seat over in Arkansas.
We need people like that running, not people like Tommy Tuberville and like that in Alabama.
We need to get people that are really aware of the fundamental cause of the triumph of liberalism and get something done on that.
How do you think that can be done?
That's the, in essence, you know, my problem.
I mean, you see the average conservative, the average Republican voter has just, over the last year or two, has just become so radicalized or so much closer to our views on so many different subjects.
And the quality of politicians remains, like you said, we've gone from Jeff Sessions to Tommy Tupperville's actually declined.
And I'm not exactly sure what to do about this.
There'll be a big backlash in 22, and I think it'll just, like it always, it'll a new class of worthless people.
Well, that's that's the thing, Brad.
Uh, pardon the interruption, my friend, but that's the thing that we have to be leery of because you see a sea change going on in the Republican base where you now have, I think it was some recent poll that said 30% said they had a very or somewhat favorable view of white nationalism, that loaded term that the media likes to use.
So you've got a lot of good things happening, but at the same time, now you've got Charlie Kirk, who wouldn't have touched these terms with a 10-foot pole, now trying to co-opt it in a controlled opposition type of way.
On the other hand, it's always good when you see these milquetoast, clueless, normy conservative enterprises like OAN.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with a lot of the things they say, but they're not going to get us to the finish line.
But when they start having quote-unquote investigative reports, calling them the same invectives that are used to label us, these are good things.
They further radicalize the base.
There is no, as Keith would often say, you can run, but you can't hide.
But I would, you know, what you got to get away from is this with regard to the school boards.
You know, we covered this story, I believe it was just last week.
Some local school board, they came down on them.
They're racist, they're domestic terrorists for daring to oppose critical race theory.
Eric Garland in particular is apparently he has relatives that live in Loudoun County, and he has focused on Loudoun County, Virginia, which is kind of a focal point of the opposition to critical race theory being taught in schools.
And he's bound and determined to plow them under.
Well, maybe it was there.
I don't know what district it was, but the local anti-CRT spokesman on the school board said, well, we just want to like Martin Luther King, you know, the conservative Martin Luther King who didn't believe in judging people by anything less than their character.
And, you know, you gotta have been in Rich Lowry neoconservatism.
Gonna have to do better than that.
You're gonna need stronger conservatives than that.
I think they're out there.
They just haven't risen into leadership positions.
It's still too comfortable, I think.
But let's talk about, hey, maybe an endgame.
A lot of you mentioned secession, a national divorce.
Are we more divided now than we were in the 1860s?
Brad's written about it.
We'll see what it is.
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We're not daydreaming.
The poll suggests people are moving to our direction and very rapidly and in great numbers.
The question still, of course, remains, will they be able to get organized?
Will they find logical conclusions and not keep making the statements?
They'll find the right sources of information or will they keep going to the neocons.
Well, this is something, Brad, you've written about.
I want to revisit this very quickly.
There's still so much I want to talk to you about before the end of this hour.
And this, you actually mentioned two groups.
And we find ourselves, I think I can speak for you in this, in between these two groups.
And that is, as you quite rightly put it, the anti-racist Christians.
These are the, I mean, really, they're not so much anti-racist as they are anti-white.
Really, what they are is just pathetic, useful idiots in the church that are advocating for the dispossession of their own children.
But these so-called anti-racist Christians and the anti-Christian white nationalists, but at the end of the day, it is pro-white Christians that are the ones turning the rudder and looking forward to the future with vigor.
Talk to us about your findings, how you read between the lines in some of these polls, and made a very interesting conclusion with regards to pro-Christian, pro-white advocates, and where they line up in the GOP base.
I mean, well, if you look at the polls, all these polls that have come out, the exact same constituency that's worried about anti-white discrimination, attacks on whites who feel under attack are for being white are also even more convinced that, you know, Christianity is also under attack and is also in decline.
So these two things are really joined at the hip.
Even if you look at Biden voters, the Biden voters who are concerned about the attacks on whites are the same set of people who are concerned about the decline of Christianity.
And on both sides of this huge mass constituency, which if you believe the polls, which I believe I do, pretty much all white Christian conservatives are alarmed about this.
Now, not just, you know, the increasing atmosphere of possibility towards whites, but also the decadent, degenerate, and anti-Christian culture.
But then on the Internet, you'll find lots of white nationalists who've been – this was actually a response to a Christian author who wrote a book recently on the radical right.
That's what inspired this.
But, you know, there's an oisie group of white nationalists who are deeply anti-Christian.
And there's also a noisy group of Christians who are extremely anti-racist and anti-white.
People like Russell Moore, who got, you know, famously just got forced out, resigned in protest, a chief with no Indians, it seems, the Southern Baptist Convention.
They're like neoconservatives.
They're a leadership cadre without any army.
They're all chiefs and no Indians.
Yeah, yeah.
The Indians are going the exact opposite direction, according to every poll.
Support for secession, white identity, concerned about cultural decline, becoming more nationalist, critical of corporations, even on Israel.
You would think that's going to be the last domino to fall.
But even there, we've seen a huge decline in, especially amongst young Christians in support for Israel.
It's also worth noting.
Let me talk to that just a minute, if I could, Brad.
This is Keith.
You know, when you bake the trap like that, you're going to catch Keith every time.
Exactly.
Like Jim Big Folsom said, right?
From Alabama.
But anyway, you know, the problem, you know, I know that at your website, you, you know, call out the boomer generation.
And I understand, you know, just about every generation looks to the prior generation as the source of the problems.
But on the other hand, I don't think any generation since the Middle Ages has dealt effectively with Jewish power and influence.
And that's the problem.
But on the other hand, if you want to see an Achilles heel in our movement, I think it would be, unfortunately, white Christian fundamentalists, most of whom tend to be southerners.
I don't think Christian fundamentalism has a great following in New England, for example.
But the problem is they have not only embraced the social gospel with as much zeal as mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics, they've also gotten onto this kooky heresy called Jewish dispensationalism.
And, you know, how can you expect people to effectively fight against a group that they have, you know, been led to believe is righteous and they adore them, you know, and people that cannot be criticized.
You know, he who blesses Israel is blessed.
Okay.
He who curses Israel is cursed.
There is some silliness in that theology, and we certainly know that the church has become very weak.
But at the same time, Brad, and you can feel free to agree or disagree, there is a honeypot right there of people who are fundamentally with us.
Maybe they've got to jump over that hurdle.
Well, okay, but they're there.
And I think the point is, and we've belabored this already, but there is a significant overlap between being pro-white and being pro-Christian.
Now, let's get to this national devotee.
Look, just a minute.
Brad, what do you think about that particular problem?
Do you think it's a problem?
And if so, how can we cope with it?
I think it's basically a phase.
I mean, you can see the rise of it with television and radio in America.
It's really an American problem.
You don't really see that.
I think it really rose when Israel became a nation and all of a sudden they said, oh, my gosh, we're seeing biblical prophecy come to life right here in front of us, right?
Yeah, I mean, I really do think it's a passing phase.
And I don't think younger Christians are as much into it as the older generation.
Just for a lot of people.
This is the thing, too, Keith.
As you know with Brad, Brad, you know, you have so much of a handle on history, history going back many, many, not just generations, but centuries.
It is easy, I think, to become lost in the 50 or 100-year period of your lifetime and not be able to see before or after.
I think you're right, probably, Brad, that this is a phase.
This is something that will pass.
It hasn't been the norm here for very long, as Keith pointed out, really since the middle of the last century.
And it's not going to be this way forever.
You know, it seems like it's not.
We get too cross in our own lifetimes if we don't look at the bigger picture.
Eastern Orthodox churches are really the only ones that I can see that haven't embraced either the social gospel or Jewish dispensationalism.
And they were, of course, inoculated from a lot of the poison of Western liberalism because, ironically, of Soviet communism.
It's good to be backward.
You know, that's basically if you're bad to be on the forefront of liberal change.
Brad, why don't you wrap up this portion of the conversation?
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That is occidentaldescent.com.
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But wrap up this portion of the conversation.
When we come back, we'll talk about the national divorce.
Are we more divided than we were in the 1860s and this trend that you've noted that seems to happen about every 80 years?
We'll do that in the final segment.
We've got about a minute or two left for this one.
Take us where you want to go, Brad.
Oh, I thought we were going to break.
I was going to give you a minute to wrap up this thread and then we'll come back with that to close.
Oh, about thoughts on the future of Christianity.
I definitely think that I definitely think a lot of it, I think a lot, I think it's on the way out, the dispensationalist stuff.
I don't see it reproducing itself.
Didn't Pat Robertson just retire?
Want to say?
If he did, he didn't leave much time to enjoy it in his 90s, I think.
Yeah, I mean, I really do think conservatives over the age of 40 and 50 really do have, really are a lot more wrapped up in this and a lot more influenced by people like Glenn Beck and that kind of stuff.
Yeah, I just agree, Brad.
I think, and I've said this before, if I had not been born into the church and had a strong pastor and a small congregation and having experienced that back in the 80s and 90s, if I had inquired upon the faith as it stands now, I probably couldn't have but looked at the church and gagged with what you see coming out of the head tables of these denominations.
But at the same time, I think there can be a muscular Christianity that reasserts itself in the future that will be very much in favor of our line of thinking, Brad.
Yeah, I hope so myself.
I also struggled with my faith early on, personally.
Growing up, that's exactly what I associated Christianity with.
I was like, okay, it's Joe Austin or Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson or Christianity exists today, but it basically exists between the covers of the original King James Bible, and that's where you need to go.
You don't need to be looking to denominational headquarters of just about any Western denomination for the true Christianity.
And Brad is right, as he is about most things.
I'm just now looking it up.
I did not hear this.
Pat Robertson has retired associate the 700 Club.
He's 91 years old.
I remember I was a kid, but I still remember hearing about Pat Robertson and his showing in the Iowa Straw War, not the Iowa Straw Paul, the Iowa Caucus.
I believe that was back in about 88.
That was pre-Buchanan.
All right.
Are we headed towards a national divorce?
Will America and this 50-state configuration stand much longer?
We'll find out.
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Anyone ever had less money this year than you had last?
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You deal with it.
That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut.
If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief.
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Who are they?
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Democrats.
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Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money.
So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere.
The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning.
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The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar.
When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency.
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Merrick Garland's view of the world.
Where's it all going, ladies and gentlemen?
That's the question for our featured guest and dear good friend, Brad Griffin, occidentaldescent.com.
Brad, you have written a couple of articles recently about the potential of a national divorce in our future.
I mean, I think it is inevitable that America will fall, or at least the Americas we know it will fall, this current 50-state geographical partitioned configuration that we've got.
And I'm not some seer for being able to see that.
I just think that history shows us that most nations and most civilizations rise and fall over time, especially one that has poisoned itself with multiculturalism.
We know that no multicultural civilization stands for long.
So this question of a national divorce, I don't remember exactly who the neoconservative was who was making the argument that we need to maintain our classical liberal democracy, as he put it.
Rod Dreyer was it Dreyer?
And Brad, you expertly picked apart his argument point by point.
Let's talk about that and talk about why you believe we are more divided than we were in the 1860s.
Take it, Brad.
Oh, yeah, no.
Rod Drewer was, what was he doing?
He had written something about, you know, Martin Luther King was a real high point of our civilization, and we have just thrown it all away.
And it just reflected this absolute myth that conservatives have created about Martin Luther King Jr.
And how, you know, Martin Luther King, oh, if only Martin Luther King was here, he would be a mainstream conservative.
And he wouldn't be another race hustler activist like Jesse Jackson, you know, who was literally with him the moment he was shot.
And so I just had some fun picking apart that about the myth of colorblindness and that and how it was always a tactic and how the left had moved on from it even in MLK's lifetime.
And MLK himself had moved on from it too and was endorsing, justifying race riots and was justifying affirmative action and was fully supportive of this whole term because he was nothing but a figurehead for forces who used him to push their own agenda.
But anyway, as for the whole national divorce thing, of course, I've been for it for going on 10 years now, a member of the League of the South.
And the reason, as we talked about earlier, secession used to be like a fringe idea that people like us in the League of the South would entertain and say, you know, in the 21st century, we need to secede from the Union.
And it's really got a, this whole national divorce talk has got started by the Claremont Institute of all places.
You know, people who are the West Coast Straussians, the followers of Harry Jaffa, the people who were known for celebrating Abraham Lincoln are now talking about people in the orbit of that are now talking about how red America needs to separate from blue America.
And we've seen the whole region.
What I was going to say in response to that while you're there, of course, who was Harry Jaffa?
A Jew.
Just like neoconservatism was a Jewish invention.
They got alarmed when Reaganism became popular and they said, you know, we've got to keep this group harnessed in and not opposing us.
So as they say in Europe, the Jews like to own both sides of each coin.
So they both own conservatism now transformed into neoconservatism and liberalism.
But, you know, again, I think from our standpoint, what we need to understand is that you've got to understand that liberalism is the modern face of evil and all liberalism is included, including the so-called sacrosanct civil rights movement.
The civil rights movement was just as evil as the transgender movement.
If you look closely at what has happened, you know, the biblical acid test for deciding subtle situations as being either evil or non-evil is do not be deceived.
You shall know them by their fruits.
Can a good tree bring forth corrupt fruit?
Can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit?
Well, public school integration, which is supposedly like Caesar's wife, Beyond Reproach, and the rights movement for blacks in the 60s is supposedly righteous.
Well, what did Brown versus Board of Education rot on American public education?
In 1954, American public education was at the top of the world.
Now we're at the bottom of the first world.
That's because that's, you know, so is that change good fruit or corrupt fruit?
And you've got to basically understand that Martin Luther King was not somebody worthy of praise.
He is an evildoer.
Well, this is a good point that Keith brings up.
And so this is where we're at, Brad.
Conservatives want to conserve the victories of the left.
That's what they exist to conserve.
And so when you're talking about Rod Dreer saying, no, we don't need to secede.
We don't need to break up America.
We need to preserve America as it exists right now and all of the degeneracy that has come with it.
You write that we are more divided than we were in the 1860s.
Explain your reasoning on that.
The two-part question, because I want to be sure you're able to touch on both of these.
And by the way, if you want to read straight from the horse's mouth or from Brad's mouth, or go straight to the source, I guess I should have said, occidentaldescent.com.
You can find all of these articles that we're touching on.
Brad wrote them all.
We're talking about his content tonight in this first hour.
So, Brad, how are we more divided as a nation now as we currently sit this October night in the year of our Lord 2021 than we were in 1861?
And what happens about every 80 years with regards to the zeitgeist?
Everything just coming to a head.
Take it.
Yeah, well, I mean, like, I mean, that's an amazing question, isn't it?
That some people would, you know, even say that, you know, like somehow it was worse in the 1860s than it is today.
When the two sides of that conflict were really only fighting about two issues.
One was slavery, and the other more important one was secession and whether a state could voluntarily leave the union.
But other than that, other than that, I mean, the two sides in that conflict had almost everything else in common.
A common ancestry.
Well, you know, slavery wasn't even that big of an issue.
You know, the people that were truly abolitionists, like an abolitionist today, they were probably less than 1% to 5% of the northern population.
That was an accident that that came about.
In fact, in the beginning of the war, Abraham Lincoln took great pains to communicate to the public that he was not for abolishing slavery.
You know, I think the question was to be believed there.
But yeah, I mean, other than that, Brad's right.
There was so much agreement.
I mean, the same Constitution, the same kind of flag, the same belief in republicanism, the same religion.
Look at the Constitution, the Confederacy, and the Constitution of the United States are all.
Right, right.
And Brad's right about that.
Yeah, good point.
But today, there's no, but today there's no agreement on anything.
Even when it was stripped all the way down to liberalism and the left doesn't even agree on liberalism anymore.
I mean, that's a huge divisive issue right now in the left.
But anyway, wrapping this up, like I said, and I keep, I'm a believer in historical cycles.
And I really do think there is something to this idea that every 75 to 80 years, we reach the end of a big historical cycle, and the system becomes fragile and things become break down and people become radicalized and there's a huge conflict.
And whoever the winner of that conflict is defines the next 75, 80 years of American history.
That's the way it's been.
And where are we at, Brad?
For the audience, where are we at on that cycle right now?
Like, we're extremely near the end, in my view.
I really do think this decade, around the middle of this decade, there's going to be, I see things spiraling.
I see people becoming radicalized.
And the only thing I can compare, what I'm saying today is the only thing I can compare that to is the years between the Civil War, before the Civil War, before the Revolution, maybe before World War II.
I know it just seems to be the end of the end of the day.
Do the math right there, folks.
Do the math with Brad.
You've got to do this because he's provided the charts at occidentaldescent.com.
How many years between the Revolutionary War and the War Between the States?
The War Between the States and World War I and II?
Check it out.
It's pretty eerie.
Bradley, you know, let me just say this.
Cultural Marxists, I think it was George Lucock said, who will free us from the chains of Western civilization?
What we need to be asking now is who will free us from the chains of Jewish power and influence, which is what is running, you know, and driving this current trajectory, I think, of, you know, of the society we're in.
And basically, we need to secede in some way that we can free ourselves from that.
Brad, one minute to go.
The last word is yours, occidentaldescent.com.
We got two more great hours coming up, but Brad's going to lead us to the wall this hour.
The last thought I would share is that, you know, things really, I mean, you're not, your eyes aren't lying to you.
Things really are spiraling out of control.
We really are in some kind of downward spiral towards something, and it's getting worse.
I mean, even since I saw you at the League conference, stuff about denying organ transplants to unvaccinated people, the FBI being sent after parents.
This is the kind of thing that happens when you're in a frenzied atmosphere and a permanent state of emergency and nothing, it really, it almost never like turns around when it gets this far is the last thing I'll leave it at.
So do you have any hope that when it all falls apart?
And again, as we said, and I sit at the league and I say everywhere I go, don't present the day.
Don't hasten the day.
Don't go out and do anything stupid.
Don't commit an illegal act.
Don't advocate for it.
Talk about it even jokingly.
But should it all fall apart, Brad?
Is there a chance that the righteous can prevail?
To Keith's point.
Five seconds.
Oh, definitely.
I think so.
There you go.
Hey, and if it happens, it's going to be because of the people who have been toiling in the vineyards for the.
That's right.
I was going to say, like Brad, but yes, we'll take a little bit of credit too.