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Sept. 25, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
He won-out shoes, silver hair and ragged shirt and baggy pants.
The old soft shoe jumped so high, jump so high.
And then he lightly touched down.
I met a man a sail in New Orleans, I once down and out.
Looked to me to be the eyes of the as the smoke ran out of life, that clicked his heels instead.
Keith, have you ever felt like Mr. Bojangles?
I'm the new Mr. Bojangles.
Mr. Bojangles would now be a white man.
Mr. Bojangles was a white man.
Really?
Yes.
Oh, yes.
I actually know the history behind this song.
You know the writer, Jerry Jeff Walker.
You don't know him, but you know who he is.
Yeah, right.
He was a kind of underground hit with a lot of people who wrote a lot of songs.
He was kind of one of these special songwriters of the 60s.
And this is probably the song that he's most known for.
Well, let me tell you the history behind this song.
So the writer of the song, who you just mentioned, was arrested for drunk and disorderly in New Orleans in 1965.
There had just been a high-profile murder in New Orleans, which back then would have been unusual, but now it's just an everyday occurrence, of course.
No such thing as high-profile anymore.
And so the police rounded up all the vagrants, all the homeless, and they put them into a holding cell in the jail, which where the writer of this song, who had also been there for being drunk, was.
And he ran into this guy who went by the name Mr. Bojangles.
And he said, Mr. Bojangles was an old white man who had traveled.
Well, the song tells the whole story.
He had traveled across the South with his dog, and after 20 years, he still grieved the life of his dog, the fact that his dog had died.
And he told the story about his dog, and everybody in the cell was really sad.
And somebody said, Mr. Bojangles, you know, do something to make us happy.
And he said he instantly started tap dancing and lifted the mood.
But the whole song tells the story of the meeting.
This whole thing is based, the whole public reaction to it was based on the assumption Mr. Bojangles was black.
Mr. Bojangles was white.
The author of the writer of the song mentions that Mr. Bojangles is white.
He took the name.
Mr. Bojangles wasn't his real name.
He gave that name to the police because he didn't want him to know his real identity.
And he took the name Mr. Bojangles after a black minstrel show.
Yeah, that was a stock character in minstrel shows.
Right.
So the Mr. Bojangles, who the song is based off of, took the name Bojangles as an assumed name, and he took it from a black performer.
But the Mr. Bojangles of the song was actually white.
It's a beautiful song, beautiful story.
And anyway, we share it with you tonight.
What we're going to do this hour, though, is I'm going to listen for the first time to an interview that I did with Pat Buchanan from 13 years ago.
Now, we've replayed some of the interviews we've done with Pat on this show.
I don't think we've ever replayed this one.
And so, what happened was it needs to be recorded.
It needs to be one of our inducements.
Well, I don't think we can make this an inducement because the recording that I received is, well, pretty beleaguered.
It's like we say in radio: can you hear every word?
Well, then it was good.
Well, you're going to hear static in the background.
You're going to hear it's you can hear it and you can make it out.
So, one of our pros to polish it up for you.
Keith, if I'm a technophobe, you're a Luddite when it comes to time.
So, I don't know if that could be done.
But what I do know is I have now, thanks to this longtime listener who that was his first show.
Well, I'm glad we had Pat on the show that night because we've got a guy that's still listening 13 years later.
I haven't heard this since we've done it.
So, we're going to listen to it tonight, and we're going to start that in the next hour, in the next segment.
And we'll see what Pat and I said about World War II.
You know, that's certainly another third rail that only Pat would touch.
And we'll explain why when we get down to debunking.
I was reading, of course, some of the things Pat said in his earlier years.
I mean, Pat, as a lot of people do, I guess, has become more moderate with age and in his 80s.
I mean, what can you do?
He touched too many third rails.
Well, when he was running in 1992, and I was in Oklahoma, Mississippi, recently, where some of his Confederate ancestors are buried, and of course, mine were from that area.
Forest Calvary fought a very important battle there, which he won, of course.
And he talked, Pat talked about in 1992.
The Chicago Tribune was interviewing him.
He said, Why are you in Mississippi?
And he said, I went to go visit the graves of my ancestors who were, I don't remember exactly what he said, but basically fire-breathing secessionists.
And he said it with a grin.
The Chicago Tribune said, How wrong.
How can anybody grin as they say that?
Well, of course, 1992 was.
But they don't understand what secession was about and what the Civil War was about.
And that's another topic we could spend an hour on anytime you want.
Well, I'll tell you who we need to spend an hour with.
It's Edmund Connolly of the Occidental Quarterly.
And he's been off the show too long.
We need to.
Well, he was abroad.
He was living abroad and he's back in the States now.
And we received, I don't want to go into the contents of that email.
It was privileged in private to us, Keith.
But Edmund Connolly, what did he say one time?
It was something he said years ago.
It was one of the highest compliments that I have ever heard.
He said we were truly literate and that the way we use the English language was kind of an eye-opener to him.
And, you know, of course, he had heard, like so many Americans, that Southerners were dopes.
And he said, you know, basically he implied that he dropped that idea altogether after listening to us, which was a supreme compliment.
What I remember is something along the lines of it took communication to a next level or something.
Whatever it was, Edmund, whatever it was, Edmund, you can remind us so we're not stabbing at it blindly.
But nevertheless, he's a great guest.
We haven't talked to him in years.
We probably haven't talked to him.
His specialty tends to be debunking and breaking down Hollywood movies so that you can see the poison in them.
I wish he would come here for a visit sometime and we could watch some of the movies I have in my collection of VHS tapes.
Edmund, Edmund, if you're listening tonight, if you want to watch Tammy and the Bachelor, I got your guy.
He's right.
Or Shane or The Body Snatcher or let me see.
What are some other Amos and Andy?
I've got all those.
And I've got, let me see.
Oh, The Window with Bobby Driscoll.
I mean, I've got some spaghetti westerns.
That's your taste.
Out of the past with Robert Mitchum.
I've got the whole wall.
There are two things I collect.
One is old men's suits, and the other thing is VHS tapes.
Okay, now, that being said, we're going to come back.
I was just checking the time on this thing.
The time of this interview with Pat was a little bit longer than I thought it was.
In fact, this particular interview about World War II spans about 20 minutes, so we're not going to be able to get all of that in one segment.
So what we're going to do is we're going to play a little bit of it in the next segment.
We're going to play a little bit of it in the third segment.
And interspersed throughout it all, we're going to get all new commentary from Keith Alexander.
That's what we're going to do.
We're going to play this thing that I haven't heard in 13 years.
And we're going to get Keith to give some updated commentary on it.
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Okay, so here's what we got, folks.
13 years ago, I talked to Pat Buchanan about World War II, and it went something like this.
Now, the audio is not going to be very good.
You'll hear every word, and Keith will provide all new commentary on what we hear together.
I'm listening to it as you will be for the first time in all those years.
So let's just see if we can get through this together.
Here we go.
Pat, we love you, and thank you for spending a few minutes with us today.
Well, thank you for giving me the time, folks.
Anytime, it's always an honor.
And well, you've done it again, my friend.
Another book, another runaway bestseller.
But this one is perhaps your most provocative work to date.
Tell me, Pat, what compelled you to write Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War?
Well, there were a number of things.
One is it is a phenomenal story.
What happened to the Western civilization that ruled the entire world in 1914?
And 30 years later, we were all of Europe was in ashes or aflame, and communists had half of Europe, and all the great Western empires had been destroyed.
And so I went back to try to locate the historic blunders that were made.
And I think we located eight of them.
So it was a great story in the first place.
Secondly, it's a cautionary tale for the United States.
The arrogance you see, the hubris of these folks, the monarchs and all their retainers just before World War I.
We can see emulated today, copied today, frankly, by some folks in the post-Cold War America.
So it was to try to tell a cautionary tale to prevent what happened to us, what happened to Great Britain and the British Empire.
Yeah, but that being said, that is a perfect segue to my next question.
What are the parallels between the United Kingdom of the interwar years, those being the years between World War I and World War II, and the United States of America today?
Well, one of the greatest is the British decisions to alienate old allies like Japan, which had been a loyal ally in World War I.
The Brits broke the treaty with them on the demand of the United States for no good reason whatsoever.
And Japan was sort of driven into isolation and anger and rage and eventually turned to her own imperial policy and collided with Great Britain.
Italy, even under Mussolini, who loathed Hitler, was driven into Hitler's arms by the British-French decision to sanction Italy over a colonial war in Ethiopia, which was a mistake.
They should have focused on Germany.
And finally, you get this war guarantee that the British gave to Poland unsolicited, even though Poland had participated in the rape of Czechoslovakia.
At least the regime had.
And so all of these decisions, you see them replicated in the United States now handing out war guarantees to the Baltic republics, to Ukraine and Georgia if McCain is elected.
So I just see the same pattern repeating itself again and again.
And I do believe the gentleman who said he owed, you know, people really do not learn from history was right.
Well, you know, Pat, you've offered so many great books, and I've got all of them.
Every time you set to write a book, you can guarantee yourself on one cell, and that's right here in Memphis.
But out of all your books, I really appreciated A Republic, Not an Empire as much as any of them.
And you addressed this issue in one of the chapters in that book.
And in this book, you expound upon that and certainly skewer the myth of Winston Churchill.
What are some of the mistakes or myths, if you will, that hold up Churchill as a hero among many Americans, especially the neoconservatives?
Well, there's no question that Winston Churchill was a heroic figure in 1940 when he took over the premiership in Great Britain just as the Germans were breaking through in the Ardennes.
He defied Hitler.
He defied the Germans.
He fought on.
He inspired his people.
He was the leader during the Battle of Britain.
And Americans watched that from across the ocean.
And there was an indelible impression that here was the defiant bulldog who represented the British people at their best.
That's a true story.
That's not just myth.
However, there's another Churchill who in 1942, 43, 44 is slipping into Moscow, dividing Europe with Stalin.
I mean, groveling to Stalin in a way that would make Neville Chamberlain look like David Crockett, just writing off the Poles for whom the British had gone to war.
And then you go back all the way to 1913 and 1914.
He lusted for war far more than the Kaiser who was trying to avoid war.
And these are all myths that we've been raised on as kids.
And so this is one reason I wrote the book, At least the New Generation Coming Up, that is not sort of, if you will, saturated or marinated in these myths, can understand how it was our grandfathers and fathers destroyed Western civilization.
Excellent answer.
Very well put.
And as with any Buchanan book, this one has received a great deal of fanfare, much critical acclaim, and a few inevitable attacks.
What is it, Pat, about World War II that your detractors don't seem to understand?
I think there is an idea, and it's come, frankly, and the book is dedicated to four of my uncles who were greatest generation Americans and fought in Europe, one of whom came back from Anzio with a Silver Star.
I think it's the idea that this was a good war.
This was a war where good, pure good fought pure evil, which a war that had to be fought and was necessary.
And there are no doubts and qualms about it.
But that is not true, as I write.
And that's why you, in effect, are dispelling some of the great myths by which Americans live.
When you say that, I mean, Winston Churchill blundered.
I mean, Chamberlain and Churchill blundered serially again and again to bring about a war with Germany.
Hitler didn't want war with the West.
He didn't want war with Poland.
He didn't want a world war.
He wasn't even prepared for a world war.
To say that he was a thug and a brutal dictator and a bully and someone who used threats of violence and force as tools of diplomacy is correct.
To say that he did horrible things in wartime is correct.
But as I say, had there been no war, there would have been no Holocaust.
And I'm not sure there would have been a war if the British hadn't issued this insane war guarantee.
Well, you know, history is, Pat, kind of like a Sunday buffet.
People seemingly take what they want and leave the rest on the table.
And of course, it's been lost to antiquity the fact that the vast majority of Americans stood with Charles A. Lindbergh and the American First Committee in opposition to our entry into World War II before the attack, of course, on Pearl Harbor.
Well, good for you.
Good for you and bringing up Colonel Lindbergh's name because his reputation has been blackened because of a single speech he gave and a couple of paragraphs in it where he said that, you know, there's three forces that are moving for war.
And one of them is, of course, the Roosevelt administration.
The other is the British, which was clearly true.
They had the man called Intrepid William Stevenson trying to find ways to get the Americans into war, putting up propaganda, frankly, blackmailing senators and everything.
And then he said the Jewish community is beating the drums for war, but this is going to be a disaster for the Jewish community if we get into war.
And of course, that was verboten to say, but frankly, no one has said what he said was, you know, palpably untrue.
And these folks, and before December 7th, 1941, the America First Committee offered, they said, look, let's put up a resolution in Congress and we declare war on Germany and have it voted up or down, but don't sneak us by a back door into war.
We're going to take a timeout right there.
Keith, we'll pause it right there.
Boy, 13 years ago, we had a good radio show.
Well, we still do, but let me tell you, that's great.
And the biggest issue I think that needs to be addressed is that Germany has been portrayed as the one responsible for both World War I and World War II.
Actually, the German leadership in both of those wars did not want war with Britain or France.
Now, listen, we're just, we've got half of that interview with Pat to go, and we're going to get to that in the next segment, and then we're going to turn it over to Keith for all new commentary on a very classic TPC interview.
So stay tuned.
James Edwards and Pat Buchanan discussing World War II.
What a guy.
We'll be back.
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And boy, it goes back a lot of years now.
And we are listening to one of those classic ones from 13 years ago.
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All right, so back to Pat Buchanan and our discussion from, I was 28 years old when I did this.
I'm 41 now.
My God, that feels like yesterday.
Let's see how it ends.
Uncles had fought and fled and died in World War I, only to make the world safe for democracy, only to see the British Empire next another million square miles.
And we're certainly following in their footsteps with regards to the collapse of what was truly the greatest nation in the history of civilization, these United States of America.
But you mentioned propaganda.
Had Divine Providence seemed fit for Pearl Harbor to have never occurred, let's say the United States stays home and Germany proceeds to defeat Stalin, what would America have looked like in 2008, Pat?
Would Hitler have come over here, liquidated Christianity, Holocausted our people, or would perhaps the world have been a better place had we abstained?
Well, if you can't know, I mean, by then, when you're talking about 1941, Hitler did not want war in the West.
That's why he didn't demand the return of Alphaish Lorraine from France, where he did want the return of Danzig from Poland or from the League of Nations.
And he did not want war with Britain, never did.
He wanted to see the British Empire preserved.
He was a great admirer of it.
He thought Britain was a natural ally of Germany because they had no conflicts.
And so I think if the British hadn't given the war guarantee, I don't know that there would even have been a war with Poland.
Because the German offer was not outrageous for return political control of their city, Danzig, with the Poles having economic control.
And I don't know if there would even have been a war with the Soviet Union then for the reason that Germany would not have had a border with the Soviet Union.
They would have had to get permission from Romania or from Poland and from Hungary even to invade the Soviet Union.
So I don't know if there would have been a war.
If, however, if Hitler had not declared war in the United States, I think he would have been stopped in Russia.
The Russians had stopped him clearly by 1940.
But it might have, the outcome of that war would have been in doubt because I think it was American Lend-Lease and all the equipment we gave to Stalin which enabled him to really sustain his war effort and mount that enormous offensive the Russians had coming into Europe.
I do think if you had not gotten into the war by 43, Stalin would probably have been on the Rhine, not just the Elp.
Well, that's very interesting, and it could have been, but certainly a lot of American blood would have been spared, and I think that's what we all would have wanted.
Right.
Well, it was a wonderful thing the America First People did, and I was criticized for it.
But in the America First folks, kept us out of war until after Hitler made his fatal blunder of invading Russia, which meant that the Russians bore the burden of battle as they rightly should have, as Stalin's regime certainly should have, because they were partners of Hitler.
And Americans, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of American soldiers, lived who would not have lived if we had had to fight Germany from the West and without the Soviet Union in the war.
Well, Pat, you're certainly a student of history.
I like to read as much as I can.
I certainly wouldn't compare my intellectual prowess to yours, but if we could survive General Sherman, we could have survived Hitler, I think.
But let me ask you this.
How did you go about researching for this book?
This is yet another typically well-researched Pat Buchanan book.
Who did you primarily consult with and reference when writing this?
Well, what I did was after I did A Republic, Not an Empire, I got that good letter from George Kennan, the great geostrategist of the Cold War, who agreed with me on a point I've been really torn apart for, which was when I said, look, once after the Battle of Britain, if the Germans couldn't get air superiority over the British Isles, they certainly couldn't get it over the Atlantic.
And if they couldn't land in England, they're not going to land in the United States.
It's preposterous.
There was no threat.
And I was attacked for that.
And I sort of determined, I said, at some point, I'm going to expand on this argument because I think it's true.
And so, well, you know, I started reading more and more books, and I was going to write a book on the war guarantee.
And then you go back and say, well, how did we get to, how did we get to there?
And you keep going back, and I had to sort of cut it off in 1905.
But I've got about 120 books, histories, biographies, all of them.
I mean, Churchill, I must quote six of Churchill's books, six of Andrew Roberts' books.
He's a friend of mine, a historian in Britain.
And you just keep reading them, and what you do is you decide, here's the six key decisions and pivot points that decided the history of the century.
One of them, of course, is just before the six weeks between Sarajevo, the assassination of the Archduke in World War I, you get Versailles, another.
And I decided that the British breaking their treaty with Japan was another at the Washington Naval Conference.
And then I've discovered that Mussolini despised Hitler, loathed him, wanted an alliance with the West.
So you did the Strasser Front, then the familiar ones, Rhineland, Anschluss, Munich.
But the key one is the war guarantee.
And that's the soul of the book.
And if people can only read one chapter, read that because it shows how leaders in panic and haste and folly who have been knocked on their heels by being humiliated can make a horrendous decision which costs them everything, everything.
The whole British Empire and the British nation as one of the first ranked of nations that was put on the line in an insane war guarantee that the British could not honor and did not honor.
And if people want to know more, they're going to have to go out and buy the book, right, Pat?
Yes, sir.
They're going to buy it and take it to the beach on July 4th.
There you go.
And buy a couple of copies for your friends.
And that book is, of course, Churchill Hitler and the Unnecessary War, How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.
It is a runaway bestseller on the charts right now, authored by our good friend Pat Buchanan.
Mr. Buchanan, thank you so much for coming back on our program for fighting for our people.
And last question.
What can your fans expect to see from Pat Buchanan for the next 20 to 30 years?
Well, I don't know how long we're all going to last, to be very honest, but I hope to write, you know, I've got one book in mind.
I'm not sure I'm going to do it.
One book in mind, which is, I think that, and it would be not a large book, but it's sort of the, it's not Death of the West, but it's sort of the coming world where I think issues of race and ethnicity and culture, the wars of race, ethnicity, and culture, are going to replace the old wars, if you will, of ideology and dynasty and empire.
And I see that coming, and it's not a pleasant sight.
But Pat Moynihan sort of saw it coming.
So did Dr. Schlesinger.
And I've read a number of columns on this, and you see the divisions in our society increasingly along the lines of race and ethnicity.
And I don't think it's a pleasant prospect that our kids and grandkids confront.
And I'm going to try to address it and see if there's any ways that it can be resolved sort of short of some sort of balkanization of America.
More to come from Pat Buchanan.
Stay tuned.
And again, Mr. Buchanan, thank you for your service, for your generosity in appearing with us.
I turned 28 years old this week.
You've made my birthday quite memorable.
And thank you for that.
I can remember when I was 28.
You know what I was doing?
What's that?
I was flying around the country with Richard Nixon at just this period in 1966, trying to elect Republicans after the Goldwater disaster.
And we succeeded.
Elected 47 of them.
So in other words, you're 28th year on earth with a hell of a lot more productive.
I don't know about that.
Ah, that's good stuff.
Well, 13 years ago, Keith, time does go by.
But I enjoyed his prophetic, as you can tell.
He prophesied Black Lives Matter and Antifa and everything that's going on today.
He landed a couple of punches in that interview.
That's right.
13 years ago, 2008, the summer of 2008, that one was aired live and now aired again for the first time since.
You're right.
Well, you ask me any questions you want about that.
Well, we are coming up on the last break of the program tonight.
When we come back, we'll get Keith's reflections on what we just heard and his all-new commentary on what Pat shared with regard to his book, Churchill Hitler and the Unnecessary War.
Again, yeah, that's old school Pat in a way.
That goes back to the Buchanan of the St. Louis Globe or wherever he was back in his early years.
Well, he's a journalist, but he's also always been a historian and very interested in the origins of America as it exists today.
How did we get to this place?
And, of course, Democrat.
Basically, the two, You know, most important things towards driving and creating the new world were World War I and World War II, which is what he gets into in that particular book.
All right, hang on.
All new commentary from Keith Alexander on a very old interview.
Quite classic, though.
We've been making good radio here for a long time, Keith.
I tell you, absolutely.
We've been making it together, that's for sure.
We'll be back one last segment tonight.
Stay tuned.
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Well, my mom smokes and my dad smokes, and I saw them smoking, so I tried it.
They're telling me not to smoke, but they smoke themselves.
When it comes to smoking, are you sending mixed signals?
But when you teach someone a certain way to do things and you go back on that certain way, it sends mixed signals to the person that they're trying to teach.
The parents need to be the example.
Smoking, if you think you're old enough to start, you're smart enough to stop.
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Nobody.
Well, it's the truth.
There is nobody that can do it like TPC.
Nobody has done it.
There is no show that has existed in the past, that exists now, or that will ever exist in the future that has blended Christianity, Southern patrimony, and race as we have done on the AM airwaves and brought to you the guests that we have brought to you over the course of the last 17 years.
And we just brought to you one again for the first time in the last 13 years.
In candid conversation, you're not going to find elsewhere.
It's just, it's a one-of-a-kind show.
It always has been.
That's why we're still here.
We're all for something nobody else does in exactly this particular way.
There are other people doing great things.
I don't deny that.
Other people talking about important issues that overlap ours.
I don't deny that.
There is no show like TPC, though.
We're the mouth of Christianity, the mouth of the South, and the mouth of the white race and advocacy for it in the face of attacks from other races and other groups against us for our ethnicity and race.
So obviously, Pat Buchanan, you go back to it, everybody knows the history, how I got my start.
We wouldn't be here without Pat.
There's just no doubt about it.
And, you know, and Pat has defended us, by the way, in a very public way in the past.
When asked about his, every time Pat came on the show, he would always get hammered for it.
So I had to quit asking him because he kept saying yes.
And I cared for him too much.
But, you know, he would, there was one time it was brought up on NPR.
He was doing an NPR interview and somebody called in and asked, hey, what about your interview on the political system?
He said, you know what?
Stand by it.
Well, he does what you ought to do when confronted with that type of question.
Rather than trying to defend us, he says, why don't we talk about what I discussed and my answers to their questions?
Okay.
That's the way to handle that rather than guilt by association.
Basically, the left wants to use everything except what is pertinent as a way to pillory people who they see as their opponents.
But let's get back to Pat Buchanan's book.
It's great.
And it points out that there was a maniacal warmonger who was responsible not only for World War II, but in large part World War II.
But that was not Hitler, and it wasn't the Kaiser.
It was Winston Churchill.
Winston Churchill was a young man that had champagne tastes on a beer budget.
His father had married one of the Vanderbilt girls from the Vanderbilt Fortune, you know, Commodore Vanderbilt in New York because he wanted money.
Like his son, he also had champagne tastes on a beer budget.
They wanted to keep the family mansion and estate intact.
And of course, he was a relative of, you know, I think it was Arthur Wellesley or whatnot that won, I think it was the Battle of Waterloo.
And he felt a particular calling in his life to maintain the balance of power in Europe that existed in 1815 right after the Battle of Waterloo with England as the top dog.
Basically, Germany did not exist before the Franco-Prussian War.
It became a nation.
as a result of the Franco-Prussian War.
People said that Prussia was not a nation with an army.
It was an army with a nation.
But basically, once all of Germany consolidated, they were the new number one economically, militarily, and every other way.
And of course, this really irritated Winston Churchill, and he wanted to make sure that that did not stand.
So he was involved in getting England involved in World War I.
He was one of the people responsible for finding this obscure treaty from the Napoleonic Wars that said that Britain would come to the aid of Belgium if Belgium was invaded.
Of course, at the time that that particular treaty was entered into, the threat was perceived to be France.
Napoleon had been French, and he had been the one that invaded Belgium and called, and that's the site of the Battle of Waterloo.
It was in Belgium.
So he got England into the war.
That's what one of the things that Pat Buchanan said.
World War I shows you the problem with entangling alliances, which George Washington in his farewell address warned us about.
Don't get involved in entangling alliances.
Entangling alliances is the two-word explanation for how the world, how the West got involved in World War I. Serbia was allied with Russia.
Russia got involved against Austria-Hungary because Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia because they had assassinated one of their high officials, Archduke Ferdinand and his wife.
Okay.
Well, not his wife, but Archduke Ferdinand.
Well, then when Russia got involved, Germany came to the aid of Austro-Hungary.
Well, there was a war going on and Winston Churchill couldn't stand that England wasn't involved in it.
So he basically got France and France was still smarting from the Franco-Prussian War and the loss of Alsace-Lorraine and other provinces to the new German nation.
So they wanted to come in to the war and reclaim their properties.
Well, Britain didn't want to be living left on the sidelines.
So that's where this Belgium treaty, Belgian defense treaty, came up.
And Winston Churchill was instrumental in basically arguing that England was honor bound to get into that war.
Of course, the reason he got into World War I and World War II is he didn't want England to lose its primacy in Europe and in world affairs.
Unfortunately and ironically, that's exactly what happened.
And it happened because Churchill was successful in getting England involved in both wars.
One of the things that Churchill said in his private correspondence to someone was, you know, it's a terrible thing to admit because it causes so much suffering for so many people, but I just love war.
You know, that's an incredible statement to have made.
And basically, that's what happened.
He got involved in wars, but he wasn't a very good soldier.
In fact, he was the only Allied commander to lose a major engagement to the Ottoman Turks in World War I, the campaign at Gallipoli.
And of course, now we've lived long enough to see the statues to Churchill and even Lincoln himself coming down.
Well, see, basically, What happened with Churchill in the interwar period is that he fell under the spell of Jewish power and influence.
He needed money.
Like I said, he had champagne tastes on a beer budget.
Well, the Rothschilds Bank got one of their sub-bankers to basically take Churchill under his wing and provide him with all the money he needed to swank up the ancestral digs and everything else and provide him with the money that he wanted.
He wasn't very good at making money, but he was darn good at spending it.
Well, that's what happened in the interwar period.
What happened in the interwar period was that Hitler was a grassroots anti-communist leader that sprung up to the head of the class in Germany, just like Mussolini was his counterpart in Italy and Franco was his counterpart in France.
All of these people cut their teeth on being anti-communist guys.
And one of the things that all three of them recognized was that in their own home countries, in the Spanish or the French or the German Communist Party, three-quarters, 75% of the members were Jewish.
So he saw the country that Hitler wanted to fight was Russia.
He didn't want to fight either Germany or America or to fight France.
But he was caught into that.
What Churchill was, not Churchill, but what Buchanan was talking about was the Polish corridor, this thing with Poland.
It wasn't just Danzig they wanted.
Basically, the Polish corridor was carved out of Germany in the Treaty of Versailles to give Poland access to the Baltic Sea.
Well, Prussia was still a part of Germany, but it was separated.
The only way to get there was by sea.
And what Hitler wanted to do was to build an Autobahn the Germans could traverse freely between the rest of Germany and Prussia.
And he also wanted to be able to use the port of Danzig and have some control over that.
Well, basically, what was going to happen was that if he got to do that, that was all he wanted.
And the Poles were about to accede to those demands when Churchill came in and said, don't give an inch.
And if they dare to invade you, we'll declare war on them.
Well, he did declare war on them, but then he didn't lift a finger to defend them.
And then the Russians saw the Germans coming in from the east.
So they came in from the, I mean, from the west, and so they came in from the east.
And that's what kicked off World War I.
I mean, World War II.
Hitler didn't want fighting with either one of them.
That thing that George Cannon said about the aircraft, the German Air Force was created to support Blitzkrieg.
They had two-engine bombers.
They had no four-engine bombers to speak of like the Allies had that were used to firebomb German cities.
So they were not, they didn't have an air force that could conquer another nation, either America or Britain.
You should have written the book.
I think you should have written the book.
But I got to tell you something, folks.
If you want to know how we got to space, it wasn't the black secretaries at NASA as was put in the movie Hidden Figures.
It was Werner von Braun.
Go do the research on that.
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