March 6, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to tonight's live broadcast of TPC this Saturday evening, March the 6th.
Yes, we're already into March, and I am really excited about tonight's show.
We're under attack, as you know.
We talked about that last week.
I'll update you on that later in the show in the second hour tonight.
We'll talk a little more about that, but I'm not going to leave you hanging.
The early news is good news.
The early news is good news.
Of course, you know, and I don't need to remind you, I'm never going to give up.
I'm never going to stop fighting.
I couldn't do it even if I wanted to.
It's just not in my DNA to stop fighting.
We're going to continue on until God himself calls us home.
And you know what, ladies and gentlemen?
We're going to win.
We are fighting the biggest dragons in the land, and one day they will fall.
And we'll be here to see it.
If not us, our descendants, we will win this thing.
We are in this together.
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And boy, I've known that for years and years, and it has been reinforced in ways you couldn't imagine just in the last week.
The early returns after our announcement last week have been incredible.
And again, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to talk to you a little bit more about that later in the show.
We're going to be toggling our lineup a little bit here throughout the month of March because it is officially our march around the world.
It begins tonight.
And because we're going to be facilitating and accommodating guests from far-reaching time zones, we'll be getting away from our standard format where Keith and I cover the news and the headlines of the week in the first hour.
Then we go to our featured guest.
And then the third hour is the utility hour.
We're going to be sort of, again, playing with that each week, depending on who and where the guest is.
But get your passports ready because that march around the world begins tonight.
During the special series, of course, as you know, we're going to showcase leaders and elected officials from different European nations as we seek to discover how our kinsmen are faring throughout the Western world.
And we're going to punch your ticket tonight, ladies and gentlemen, to the United Kingdom and Australia when British barrister Adrian Davis and Professor Andrew Fraser join us to report from their respective ports of call.
It's going to be a month of broadcasting you won't forget as we bounce around Europe and beyond with some of our people's greatest representatives.
This is what this series, and then, of course, going in next month to April in our Confederate History Month series, that annual tribute to the South, the good guys in the Civil War.
We're going to be doing that, Lincoln's War, War Between the States, excuse me.
We're going to be getting into that next month.
So, two months of special programming coming your way.
But, Keith, I got to tell you, my friend, I've got a little extra pep in my step tonight.
I'm excited about the guests.
I'm excited about what we're doing this month.
And I'll tell you, we really are going around the world tonight, the UK and Australia.
But before this month is over, we're going to talk to leading lights in Germany, Sweden, Croatia, Ireland, Canada, and beyond.
Well, tonight is totally the Anglosphere.
Let me get you going.
Let me get you going.
That's why we always check that.
Okay, go, buddy.
Okay, I was saying tonight is exclusively the Anglosphere.
We're getting England, Merry Old England, the homeland with Adrian Davis or Dave Ease, I guess, and then Andrew, and then Andrew Frazier from that far-flung outpost of the Anglosphere, Australia.
But they're going to have it's going to be fun to see just exactly what their takes are: if they're the same, if they're different, if they're entirely different.
We're loaded up and ready for bear with this.
Okay, this is what we prepared for this show, believe it or not.
We always prepare, but no, I think you would say, you could say we are extra prepared for what we're going to be doing this month.
I think it's interesting.
I think it's unique.
And we're actually going to be hitting the UK a couple three times this month because, of course, it is those nations.
Wales, England, Ireland, and Scotland.
Well, not so much New Zealand, but I guess I was going to say from the nations from which we can trace our line most directly: England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, the United Kingdom.
And so we're going to have multiple guests on from the UK.
Don't forget Scotland.
Oh, yeah, no, I said it.
And of course, Scotland.
And we'll have multiple guests on from the UK this month.
But it all starts.
Adrian Davis is going to kick us off, and he's going to be kicking us off at the top of the next segment.
And he's staying up past midnight over there.
Good friend of ours and a great leader for our people.
But I'll tell you, there is so much news to cover.
Keith, I don't even know where to start.
We got a lot of news to cover this month.
Of course, we're going to be talking about just what a grotesque, cartoonish, unserious government we have.
They were holding some sort of a hearing this week to talk about how there was supposed to be 50,000 three percenters that were going to come and sack Washington on Thursday.
Completely fabricated, completely made up, completely unserious.
But if you want to see who the real domestic terrorists are, you want to see who the real insurrectionists are, you just wait because the trial of Officer Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis of George Floyd infamy, that's going to kick off next week, Keith.
And you just wait until he gets acquitted.
If justice is served and he gets acquitted, you'll see who the terrorists are.
That's going to be something we're going to be keeping a keen eye on.
And then, of course, the COVID thing, Keith, COVID, as usual, the South was right.
The South is right.
Texas and Mississippi dropped all these restrictions this week, and the dominoes have started to fall.
You're seeing this narrative really start to melt like the wicked witch, I guess you could say, as a friend of mine told me.
And West Virginia, Arizona, a lot of other states are following suit.
Well, you tell you the truth, this could be the beginning of a secession movement.
Basically, by not going along with the Joe Biden administration's typical take on COVID and saying we've had enough of it, we're basically declaring ourselves sanctuary states from the COVID nonsense.
And that's the beginning of declaring ourselves sanctuary from the Second Amendment.
Anything else, anything that gets passed by the Democratic-controlled Congress is going to be reacted to in that way, I think.
And it's going to, it's just going to snowball.
The whole thing is going to snowball.
The more they do, the more pushback they're going to get from the South.
Well, it's really not pushback.
What they're going to say is, include us out, as Sam Goldwin, the famous movie mogul, said back in the 40s.
We're going to just include us out.
I just want to say one more thing.
In the second hour, when Keith and I are covering the news or the interesting headlines of the week, we're doing that in the second hour tonight.
Again, we're sort of going to be switching up the lineup order.
Our regular lineup with regard to the content we cover in each hour.
Our regular lineup is going to be a little bit amended this month to facilitate and accommodate our guests.
But we will be talking more about the COVID situation.
We're going to be talking more about Officer Chauvin.
That trial begins on Monday.
Boy, boy, boy, that's going to be interesting.
And speaking of the South, I just want to mention very quickly, we had a listener, a longtime listener of the show from South Dakota, drive all the way down to Memphis just to break bread with Keith and I for a couple of hours.
And I just want to give Kevin a big shout out.
What a great guy, meeting him for the first time.
That's the kind of loyalty and dedication our audience has.
He's a great guy.
We're happy to serve him.
We'll be right back with Adrian Davis.
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gentlemen, our march around the world has officially commenced.
And our first stop on this world tour is the city of London, where we find our good friend Adrian Davis, who was born at Templecombe in Somerset.
a largely agricultural county in the west of England.
But he grew up in the outer suburbs of London, educated at Cambridge University, the Sorbonne in Paris, and University College in London.
For many years, Adrian has served as a barrister.
Now, that's a trial lawyer, the kind who get to wear a horsehair wig and a black stuff gown to court, who over the course of his 30-year career has represented amongst many Normie clients a clutch of political dissidents.
Adrian has spent the last 40 years trying to teach populist and nationalists in Great Britain to conduct themselves in ways likely to win over rather than repel Normies.
And he's still trying.
Adrian, thank you for being with us tonight and staying up so late.
It's great to have you.
James, thank you for inviting me.
And I was panicking earlier because I looked at the time in Nashville and found that it was in fact an hour ahead of the time I thought you were calling me.
Then I looked back at your email and discovered for some reason you're working on East Coast time, although you're in Tennessee, which kind of confused me.
But here we are, thank heavens.
Yeah, I don't know what was going on there.
Maybe I was just trying to give you the East Coast time to lessen the rigors of adding that extra hour.
but in any of it, we are here.
And Adrian, as I often say... I think it's much more fun next Saturday because you changed the summertime on the 14th of March and we changed the summertime on the 28th of March.
Oh, that's going to foil my plan, actually.
Many, many thousands of planes have departed without their passengers at that time of the year to people making mistakes.
Yes.
But anyway, Robert Burns said the best life plans of mice and men off going to Klan.
Yeah, I was telling you.
Don't live in England at the moment because you may know we now have laws forbidding you from leaving the country without the license of the government.
So nobody's flying anywhere pretty well.
But we'll get into that either with you tonight or with Peter Rushd.
And we have had, Adrian, a lot of questions come in for our UK guests that are going to be appearing over the course of this month.
But I just wanted to start with this because we've got a lot I want to cover with you.
And always so little time in commercial radio.
I always say when talking with With someone from London, of course, we can remember the old saying, there was a time during which the sun never set on the British Empire.
Now, unfortunately, our friends and brothers don't even control the streets of London.
You heard that triumphant anthem, an anthem that was written at a time when our people were confident and dominant.
Is there a future?
Is there a timeline where we can see our people going back and being that way once more?
Or is England going to become what they predicted after World War II, the cottage by the sea?
Well, I'm actually not quite such an enthusiast for empire as some are.
There's a very the empire did very little in it today for 99% of British people.
There's a very funny story about a conservative canvasser in the east end of London in the days of Disraeli when the empire was pretty well at its apogee, knocking on the door of an elector.
Now, in those days, the franchise would have been confined to households, a very small proportion of the population.
So this would have been one of the wealthier people in the area.
He says the elector would be voting conservative at the general election.
Well, why would I do that?
Well, sir, says the canvasser, you live in an empire on which the sun never sets.
No, says the elector, I live in an alley on which the sun never rises.
The British Empire did no more good for the average Briton than the overseas de facto possessions.
The United States claiming to be an anti-imperialist power, doesn't have an empire.
It just always had lots of countries in its control, and that, as you would appreciate, is very different from an empire.
The difference is perhaps a little metaphysical, but it does the ordinary American no good whatsoever that the United States exercises de facto suzerainty over who knows how many countries all over the world.
On the contrary, all it does is drain the American taxpayer of money, and much worse when they have the wars, drains the ordinary American, often a white rural southerner, of his life or a limb or something like that, to rule Iraq or Afghanistan or some other god-forsaken hellhole from which, frankly, we were well rid, and you would be well rid too.
Well, Adrian, this is Keith Alexander.
And I understand you're from the home counties now, by the way, which is where my mother was from.
She's from Hertfordshire.
Oh, yeah, on the other side of London side, yes.
Well, what I was going to say is that our foreign policy was supposedly MAGA, make America great again, but it was really MIGA, make Israel great again.
Israel benefits greatly from our foreign policy, but the average American, not so much, as you say.
No.
And quite apart from that particular issue, and obviously I'm no enthusiast for Israel.
Israel was a state founded by men who murdered large numbers of British soldiers of policemen and large numbers of Arab women and children in order to create their state.
So there's no particular reason for us to love it.
The story of the British mandate in Palestine and the activities of the various Zionist terrorist groups against it is something which is not generally dwelt upon by historians here because it takes you down all kinds of dangerous paths, shall we say.
Like the King David Hotel bombing.
Yeah, it's like the King David Hotel massacre, for example, and that's just one of them.
There are many such episodes during British mandatory rules in Palestine.
attempt to maintain a fair balance between the interests of the Arab and Jewish populations ends up with a particular outcome of antagonizing both, which is often what happens when you try to maintain a fair balance between people.
But no, in fairness, I think to President Trump, one of his achievements was keeping America out of any more neo-colonial wars.
So when you say that MAGA didn't amount to what it was supposed to amount to, actually I give President Trump great credit for some aspects of his foreign policy, not his building up of Israel even more, but at least for avoiding any more foreign wars.
President Biden seems to be quite keen to start those at the moment, from what I can see.
Well, he talks out of both sides of his mouth, but of course, so did Donald Trump on that.
Well, when you're senile, that does happen a little more often than not.
Adrian, Adrian, I wanted to ask you this very quickly before we take our first break because I think it's an important question.
And a yes or no answer will suffice because when we come back, I'm going to ask you a little more about the inner workings of patriotic nationalist groups in the UK.
But yeah, it's not so much about rebuilding or reclaiming the empire.
I don't have much interest in governing or having Hong Kong be part of what we're doing.
But it would be nice to control our ancestral homelands again.
So with regard to the rural Britannia and all that, is there a way, do you see a way forward where we get that indomitable mindset back?
Can our people reclaim that?
Well, you're absolutely right.
It begins with a mindset.
If you internalize an ideology of egalitarianism.
Keep talking.
Well, actually, we are take a break.
So when we come back, though, we'll pick up right there.
Now, Adrian's got it right.
Adrian's learned, well, we haven't learned in 16 years.
When the music starts, you start to taper and learn to break the rules.
And he follows it.
Will, listen, the mindset is important.
The mindset we have to regain that confident, that masculine, that dominant, indomitable mindset again if we're going to reclaim at least our nations.
Forget the empire.
Let's take our nations back.
We'll be right back with Adrian.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, very much an honor to have my good friend Adrian Davis, who has spent a lifetime working for nationalist causes and has been a leader for our people in the UK for longer than I've been alive.
and he helps us kick off the market around the world.
Oh, that's not true to me greatly, I can tell you.
But in any event, Adrian, the question was our mindset.
How do whites regain a positive, confident mindset and rule their own nation?
As we have been so mentally browbeaten for so long.
I'd almost begin from a rather different angle.
I think the biggest problem with our people, and particularly by that I mean peoples of Anglo-Saxon descent rather than the broader European family of peoples, is a tendency to hyperindividualism, which has been a very, very clear trait of our folk for a long time.
If you perceive yourself as a member of a group with group interests, collective interest, if you like, to which you're loyal and which is loyal to you, that is a very, very different way of looking at things from the way that far too many of our people have, which is seeing things from purely an individualistic perspective.
That is plainly a rather genetic trait.
And with all traits that have evolved, it must have some evolutionary advantages.
And I think they're very, very obvious.
The same trait that made our people great explorers, great inventors, great Pioneers in business is the trait that makes them look upon themselves and perhaps only their immediate nuclear family as the only entities to which they really have a close allegiance.
And that is obviously a weakness under other circumstances.
If you have a society that consists entirely of your own people, it may not be quite such a weakness.
If you come into conflict with other groups, it obviously is.
And conflict doesn't necessarily mean military conflict.
It might mean economic conflict.
It might mean political conflict.
In fact, it more often means those things than it does mean military conflict.
So, where I think we as a people have gone wrong is in prioritizing individual self-interest over all other things.
And it's been in the loss of a sense of collective identity.
Well, what you just said was so vitally important, and that is individualism versus people who work for the collective good, the good of their entire people.
And that's something that whites have a problem with, and we need to certainly have a reckoning with.
But I want to ask you this: in light of the black, and this goes directly to the heart of what's going on with nationalist groups in the UK, in light of the blacklisting and the denial of bank privileges suffered by Mark Collett and his patriotic alternative, is there any real hope for an electoral fight back by whites in Britain?
And I would add this as an add-on to that question.
What might be some extra electoral ways for our people to organize, resist, and regain control of our country?
And of course, we're not meaning anything illegal or untowards, but those are the questions.
What's going on there?
And I heard one leader from the UK tell me: the electoral path is done, but our people are not done.
Where do you line up all that?
What path do you have then if you don't have an electoral path?
Well, first of all, I don't necessarily agree with the premise that there isn't an electoral path.
I think that is often, well, that's mostly put forward by two kinds of people.
One kind of person is impatient, and that is usually the kind of person who advocates for that point of view.
The other is the kind of person who, frankly, has tried it and not been very successful at it, and concludes that the reason why it hasn't worked out isn't any failing of the individual in questions or the organization in questions, is that it must be impossible.
I tried it, it didn't work, so nobody else could succeed at it.
It's obviously a flawed logic.
Sour grapes, do we call it?
I'm sorry?
Sour grapes, it's called.
Sour grapes, yeah.
Look, if you look across Europe, and here's a very clear example I take: country Europe, which has the most repressive laws, the most damaged collective psyche, and the worst political experience of the 20th century was Germany for all sorts of reasons, like losing two world wars.
Now, at the end of the 20th century, it was only the end of the 1980s before reunification, Germany could still be described as an economic giant and a political pigby.
And what it certainly didn't have was any kind of even remotely successful nationalist party.
It had some old men who remembered the past, shall we say, and then it had a bunch of often asocial elements who enjoyed doing the most taberized things in their society as a means of shocking their parents.
Now it has in Alternative Deutschland a successful populist party that has gathered a large measure of support, admittedly, more particularly in the former East Germany than in the West, but still substantial measure of support across the whole of the country, under far more difficult political circumstances in many respects than those which exist in England.
There is nothing in Great Britain that makes organizing politically through the electoral process very difficult.
It's a lot easier for us than it is for you.
There are no difficulties about getting on the ballot here.
To get on the ballot in the British parliamentary constituency, which is roughly equivalent to one of your congressional districts, you need to have a proposal a second.
And I forget whether it's 10 or 12 assenters.
It's about 14 people in a constituency of electorate, about 80,000.
Well, try doing that in the U.S. congressional district.
It's a lot more formidable task to register a third-party candidate than it is here.
So, yes, there are aspects of the electoral system that work against all small parties, as they do in the U.S.
The so-called first-past post system works against them.
But I think the reason why it hasn't been done here is, frankly, errors by some of the people who've tried to do it in the past have been a large contributory factor.
The trouble is that, you know, radio program where I know you want to ask me questions from your listeners, I could talk about this subject for an hour or two, and we're not going to have an hour or two to do it.
But the short answer is I don't think that there is any fundamental problem to making electoral progress in the United Kingdom, nor is there a great obstacle to organizing countercultural type groups.
If you want to run your own association for promoting, I don't know, a book club or something designed to have a metapolitical activity.
It's not especially difficult.
Well, you do have an establishment over there that's in charge, Adrian.
We all thought Brexit was going to be this clean break and it would be a new day dawning after that.
Doesn't seem to happen.
Boris Johnson was supposed to be a great guy.
I know that hasn't happened either.
No one who knows Boris Johnson has ever thought that he's a great guy.
He is a serial adulterer, a pathological liar, lazy, vain, ambitious without knowing what he's ambitious for.
Sounds like a typical politician.
Well, I think that's the way he's been presented over here.
And so it's good to have someone with your insight on to set the record straight.
That's why we're taking this march around the world.
What a great answer.
I mean, what great insight and commentary you've provided.
A bunch of line, Theresa May, she had many faults.
But honestly, in terms of personal integrity, she's about a thousand times better than he is.
Adrian, I got to tell you, I liked hearing your answer about the ability to organize and be successful, even though obviously we've had a string of defeats and things haven't gone our way in quite a while.
Let me ask you this very quickly because the music is about to play again.
Are you still waiting for that political messiah, so to speak?
Is there anyone in British pro-white circles with the will and the wit to unite the smaller squabbling nationalist groups?
You know, there was a black Irishman from Jamaica called Bob Barley who wrote a song called Stand Up for Your Rights.
There's more sense in that song than waiting for the Messiah.
There really is.
There's no perfect human being who's going to be the Messiah.
You've got to save yourselves.
Too many people thought that Donald Trump was the Messiah.
That's right.
I've got a better view of him than many of the more hardlined nationalists in the U.S. do.
This is what we're doing.
Well, you certainly have a better view of Boris Johnson than we do.
No, I don't know.
I know Bernard Patsy.
Well, but no, again, it's interesting, though, because that's the way he was presented over here.
Now, I think at the end of the day, we knew that.
He was not a change agent.
No, no, certainly not.
Certainly not.
But in any event, stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
We've got one more fleeting segment with the great Adrian Davis.
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They implement abortion quotas in all of their clinics.
What do you mean, quotas?
You have to perform a certain number of abortions every month.
One of the reasons that I left.
Are they explicit about that?
Yes, it's in your budget, right there on the line item.
One of the reasons I left Planned Parenthood was because in a budget meeting, I was told to double that abortion quota.
And for me, as someone who had spoken to the media and had said, you know, we're about reducing the number of abortions, we're about, you know, prevention, all these other services, I was shocked.
So since you actually worked at a Planned Parenthood, give us some sense of the relative number of abortions.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, that brings us, I guess, to a question that we had in from one of the listeners, and I'll let Keith take it away.
Adrian, what's with the monarchy?
They seem to be hopelessly liberal.
Prince Charles is a liberal twit.
Then we have the Harry and Megan soap opera.
Is there any way that it can be salvaged?
And can it be a rallying point for white nationalists or not?
Quite the contrary.
The function of the monarchy is to give an impression of continuity in a time of radical change in which, frankly, the country has undergone a demographic transformation.
I consider that it has a largely negative effect.
It encourages people to wallow in nostalgia for a past that they have over-romanticized anyway, and to imagine that things will always be the same, even when whole parts of their country have been transformed into what are essentially alien lands, would, I should add, become the willing collusion of that institution.
So I'm not a fan.
Well, neither are we.
That's why we played the sex pistols.
I'll admit, having never, well, I guess if you go back far enough, of course, we came from there.
I mean, so we have a little bit of a stake.
That's why we left.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I like some of the stories of some of the kings of the past.
Henry VIII, obviously.
I mean, interesting to say the least.
Probably other adjectives you could use there.
But what is the British early coming of Boris Johnson?
What is the British public's current feeling toward Harry Meghan and the royal family as it stands now?
Because as Keith mentioned, soap opera, I see this insolent, this chronic malcontent Megan, who is no princess by any standard of measurement, going on Oprah and spilling the secrets and just wow.
How do the English people feel about the fact they have a black princess before they had a Cotney princess?
It seemed like a slap in the face of the average Englishman.
They embraced her with great enthusiasm, and then they discovered what happens when you clasp a snake to your bosom.
I could have told them that beforehand and all I can say about that is that pain is something from which we can sometimes learn.
And those who don't learn from it are destiny.
Yes, the whole thing is an unspeakably vulgar Hollywood soap opera of the ghastliest kind.
And really and truly, actually, to my mind, it sums up the institution.
Add to that Andrew's cavalting at Epstein's paedophile island.
Really and truly, there are limits.
Well, has the public opinion soured on the House of Women's?
Are they ready to sack the Windsor in light of her behavior?
I don't think that's going to be happening anytime soon, but foreigners have a strange view of the monarchy, which appeals to them, I think, far more than it does to most people in England.
To us, it's all part of the furniture.
It's always been there, except during Cromwell's reign, which was an awfully long time ago.
And we can't imagine any other form of head of state for ceremonial purposes.
And I don't think most people would wish to do away with it.
The act of presenting a dignified image, the Queen does herself, but my goodness, her family do not.
It does make London words about the next generation.
Elizabeth is the only sane one out there, it seems to be, to me.
You know, Prince Charles is a liberal twit.
You know, Prince Harry, Prince William.
I mean, the fact that they would have a black princess before a conversation.
That type of thing is just Adrian already mentioned it.
I know, but why in the world, you know, are they ready to sack the Windsors or is that just like Old Man River going to keep rolling along?
Well, I think it's growing along like Old Man River for a little while to come, though it is not impossible that the role of the monarchy in British society will be reassessed once Charles eventually becomes king.
As somebody said to me, a very wise man in fact once said to me, Charles is not the lucky name for English kings.
You know what?
You first one, don't you?
Absolutely.
We have covered, as you mentioned, I could have spent in the topic we were discussing in the second segment, the segment prior, we could have spent an hour minimum on that.
With commercial radio, you always have to speed up the pace, and sometimes that's to our detriment.
But we have about five minutes or so remaining with you.
And I want to thank you again, my friend, for coming on and kicking off our march around the world.
But I want to turn the floor completely over to you.
What have we not covered from the perspective of a Brit that should be conveyed to the American audience and in fact our worldwide audience?
What would you like to share with us?
Well, I suppose what I'd say from our perspective at the moment is that we're going through a very strange time here with the extraordinary restrictions that our government has imposed upon ordinary life in Great Britain for the past year.
So I wouldn't question what's really interesting is how England and the rest of the United Kingdom will look after COVID and as we face up to the economic consequences of the government's handling of this crisis.
It's rather like the well, it's quite rather like the time of year we are.
March in England is always the most disappointing month, I think.
You think that spring is coming and then suddenly winter comes blasting back with full force.
But with the saga of COVID, that is, I think, slowly coming to an end.
I don't incidentally believe the conspiracy theories that say the government wants to maintain lockdown forever.
I think that's another example of the government just being cowardly in the face of quack epidemiologists telling the whole population will die if they tell people to take dirty pieces of cloth off their mouths.
But what it has done is freeze political life on a single issue for a period of time.
And what I'm trying to do, or would encourage people to do, is to try and think through that and beyond it.
one of the great fallacies of thought into which we all fall is assuming that tomorrow will look like today.
That is not true.
Let me just say this.
Adrian, in America, you've got a particular section of the nation, namely the South, that's pushing back against the COVID restrictions.
Is there anything like that going on in Great Britain?
I think there's a significant vocal minority that doesn't like them, but don't forget, or perhaps you don't know.
Our government dealt with this in a very different way from yours.
In particular, we now reach an extraordinary situation where there are many, many millions of people who for the last year have been sent home on four-fifths of their pay by the government to sit home and do no work.
If someone would pay me four-fifths of my income for the rest of my life to sit at home and do no work, I can tell you I would read a great many books that I want to read.
I'd write a great many articles that I want to write.
I'd listen to a lot of music I want to hear.
I'd be a very happy person.
And there are about 9, 10, 11 million people in the United Kingdom, that's for a population of 67 billion, who are being paid by the government not to work.
When that ends, it will be very interesting.
But strangely enough, there's not much dissent against the system that pays you four-fifths of your salary to do no work.
It's good for the perspective of the recipient at any rate.
Not from the perspective of the taxpayer, but there you are.
Well, we have a segment of our population that feels the same way.
It's called government employees.
They're getting five-fifths of their salary for sitting at home and doing nothing.
Yeah, well, it's the same here.
It's the same here.
A very, very large percentage of the workforce is employed by either local or central government.
You know, Adrian, I apologize, but listen, I heard that with regard to COVID, if we're talking about this, of course, here in the United States, we'll be talking about this more in the next hour, but several of the states have just abandoned all restrictions and it happened as recently as this week, so this is a new development.
But in the UK, it looks like that the government has announced two more COVID support payments that will stretch as late as until September.
So it doesn't look like they're looking to abandon the status quo when he takes it.
No, no, no, that's for a different reason.
As soon as the economy isn't suddenly needed to bounce back when the restrictions are lifted, the government's great fear is as soon as it stops paying people's wages, their employers will dismiss them because they can't afford to pay them.
At which point there will suddenly be several million unemployed people who are very, very angry.
Somebody once described gratitude in politics as a lively sense of favours yet to come.
Those people who've been drawing four-fifths of their salary for doing no work will not be grateful to the government for that if they do not have a job in August.
They will be very, very angry and they will not at all remember the large S that has been lavished on them out of the public purse.
They will be enraged and the government's afraid of that and rightly so.
Interesting.
Well, see, this is why we have these guests on.
These are great answers that we couldn't get from being outside of the country.
Do you have any realistic hope, Adrian, that the UK will return to normal?
That's a relative term, at least with regard to COVID in the current year?
It depends.
What do you mean by normal?
Well, that most of the restrictions will be lifted.
Yes, that the country will return to the same level of economic activity which it was before.
No, I don't think that's going to happen.
I think the government has seriously underestimated the harm that its measures have done.
And the consequences of that will be serious.
Well, is that going to be a grand opportunity for our side?
It'd be a grand opportunity for anyone who can put forward a coherent alternative.
A subject upon which perhaps you should get an opinion from my friend Peter Rushen, who I think you're having on your program next week, is how much prospect there is of organising to take advantages of the opportunities that are certainly coming.
I dare to quote Mussolini on your program.
He once said that what was wanting to save Italy was not measures, but men.
And that is rather our problem here at the moment.
That is a fantastic quote to end this hour on.
Adrian, you've certainly set a high standard for the rest of our guests.