Jan. 23, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, is that the kind of dystopian future America has in its future?
Well, we'll find out, I guess, together, but it does seem to be changing in real time.
Welcome back to tonight's powerhouse broadcast of TPC this Saturday evening, January the 23rd.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
We have now the second of our triumvirate tonight, Jared Taylor in the first hour.
Paul Fromm still to come, but right now here with us, Mark Weber, the director of the Institute for Historical Review.
He is, of course, an accomplished historian, lecturer, current affairs analyst, and author.
He was educated in the United States and Europe.
He holds a master's degree in modern European history.
And he's returning to the program this hour to forecast what we can expect during the Biden-Harris administration and beyond.
Mark, it's great to have you, as always.
How are you?
Thank you very much, James.
It's always very kind of what you say.
I'm very pleased to be on again.
Yes.
Well, I was talking with Jared, and of course, it's always great to have you.
You are one of our very favorite guests.
That's why you appear so frequently.
I think you made more appearances than anyone else last year, and for good reason.
But we were talking with Jared in the last hour, rather, about assessing the Trump administration, the Trump years, and it seemed as though to me, in a way, as we were there at the inauguration together, he came in like a lion and out like a lamb.
Now, I hope I'm not being too harsh here, but we all had hopes, or at least some of us did, that there would be some substantial pardons, and I don't mean of lackeys and of rappers, but perhaps up into and including Julian Assange and Ed Snowden, that perhaps he would declassify some things that could make waves, but rather he chose to save himself.
And what good he did was mainly not legislative policy, but rather executive orders, which were, of course, already overturned in large part by Biden and immediately reversed.
I heard Biden got writer's cramp in the Oval Office a couple of days ago, signing so many executive orders overturning some of these Trump policies.
Is that too harsh of a criticism or too harsh of an assessment, Mark?
No, I don't think so.
I was looking over something that I wrote and said back in 2016, months before Trump was even inaugurated, or before even the election took place.
And I gave a talk in March of 2016 because the Trump phenomenon was such an astonishing thing in American history, American political history.
And many of those, of course, had, as you mentioned, a lot of, many people were putting very high hopes about Trump.
And I said this at the time, I said, Trump has already done a great service by speaking boldly about important issues that the mainstream media and system politicians have ignored, thereby forcing them into open discussion.
Trump has also earned support for pointedly rejecting political correctness, a structure of taboos that stifles honest discussion about race and gender realities in American society.
Although Donald Trump deserves credit for highlighting major issues and for giving voice to legitimate concerns, there is much about him, I said in my talk, that is troubling.
His rhetoric is often vulgar, narcissistic, wildly exaggerated, and thoughtlessly offensive.
I said his shameless pandering to the pro-Israel lobby with expressions of blank-check support and boundless, what he calls love for the Jewish state, suggests that he will do nothing to curtail Jewish Zionist power and his grip on the mass media and U.S. foreign policy.
Given his record of overblown rhetoric, inconsistent and even contradictory views on issues, and a seeming lack of principle, it would be wise, I said, to keep expectations about a Trump presidency very low.
Well, whatever he did that is good, I'm happy about, but I think it was wise back then to emphasize to keep the expectations low.
Unfortunately, many people had very high expectations about him.
But the Trump phenomenon is not, of course, as his enemies say, a cause of America's problems.
It's a sign of how bad things have gotten in America and in Western Europe and Western world.
In another talk I gave, I wrote this just a few weeks before he was inaugurated, after he was elected, before he was inaugurated.
I said, in an historic presidential election campaign season that culminated in the startling victory of Donald Trump, Americans rejected policies and trends of recent decades that have generated unprecedented levels of discontent and alienation.
Trump's astonishing rise in his election victory is an expression of widespread unhappiness, especially by white Americans with the country's direction.
Trump's victory is also an expression of growing anti-establishment sentiment across the Western world.
These are all symptoms of the ever more obvious failure of the social political order that has prevailed in the U.S. and Western Europe for more than half a century and of the globalist egalitarian ideology on which it is based.
Now, the truth is, and I said, the American political system is now so corrupt, its racial discord so deep-rooted, its social divisions so severe, its cultural life so unhealthy, that it's unlikely that Trump or any single president can, quote-unquote, make America great again.
Now, that's what I wrote back in 2016, and I think that's held up fairly well.
I would really emphasize what he said in his farewell address and compare that with the record.
In his farewell address just a few days ago, he said, I stand before you truly proud of what we have achieved together, what we did what we came here to do, and so much more.
Well, that's, I think, really, to be charitable, quite an exaggeration.
In his inaugural address, Trump promised to end violence and lawlessness in American cities.
He said it stops now.
That was 2017.
Everyone knows just how empty that pledge turned out to be.
He repeatedly promised to build a big, beautiful wall across the U.S. border with Mexico, one that Mexico, he said, would pay for.
Now, it was particularly his failure to make good on that promise that discouraged and then really made unhappy a lot of his most prominent supporters.
Everyone knows Ann Coulter, who even wrote a book at one time entitled In Trump We Trust, became ever more critical of Trump during his time in the White House.
And she now is unabashed, openly portrays her discussion with him as a windbag, posturing person who failed completely to live up.
Now, she's perhaps got her own reason to be specific.
Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare.
He promised to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan.
He has kept American troops in Syria, which, by the way, is illegal both under international and American law.
But not many Americans seem to care much about that.
To his credit, I think, Trump did not launch any new wars.
Although his campaign of sanctions against Iran, which by the way is quite illegal, has brought the U.S. close to war.
But anyway, well, we can go on a bit more about that in just a minute there.
And we certainly will, Mark.
What a powerful opening salvo you gave us this hour.
Fantastic commentary and analysis as always.
And to Mark's point, I interviewed Ann Coulter at the Republican National Convention in 2016 about that book, and it's just amazing to see how much she has turned.
And perhaps not for anything less than a good reason, but surely she did turn.
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All right, well, welcome back, everybody.
James Edwards here.
It is Saturday evening, January the 23rd, the first program we've broadcast since the changing of the guard in Washington, D.C. Mark Weber, Jared Taylor, our first guests post-Trump, and I couldn't think of any two better to have for this particular moment in time.
And we want to thank Mark for being with us tonight, as we do every night he's with us.
And be sure to check out his work at the Institute for Historical Review, iHR.org.
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So, Mark, we transition now into the Biden-Harris, whatever you want to call it, regime.
And I would ask you this.
So the Biden cabinet, I mean, for whatever faults Trump had, and they were legion, Trump never played into the game that all whites are enter in your adjective here, racist, white supremacist, domestic terrorist, etc.
Trump never played that game.
He left a lot to long for, but he didn't do that.
I fear, though, that this new administration, or whoever's pulling the strings on this new administration, is going to be unabashedly anti-white.
And so we have Biden's cabinet.
I know you are such a history, or rather a student of history, Mark, particularly with regard to wars and foreign interventions.
What do we see now coming from the Biden cabinet and its makeup and Syria and what may be coming for the next war of the American police state?
Well, Biden is stepping on the pedal, fortified by the, especially by the left of his own party during the last campaign, Sanders and others.
He's putting the gas to the pedals of the gas pedal here, putting the foot in the gas pedal on pushing ahead with the agenda of a universalist egalitarian America.
This is not anything new.
It's a continuation of principles and of policies that have been in place for a long time and which have been endorsed not just by Democrats, but also by Republicans.
I mean, at the inauguration was Bill Clinton.
It was Bill Clinton who said in a State of the Union address when he was president, never forget, he said, that diversity is our greatest strength.
Now, if you really believe that, and I guess Biden does, he's going to push that even more strongly.
He's apparently going to open the doors open to immigration because he really wants America to live up to what he thinks is its great, glorious promise as a universal country for everyone.
To me, this is, I think, to almost all America, most Americans anyway, this is madness, but that's what he's going to push for.
Now, he talks that he's made a cabinet which is, he says, very diverse.
But in one way, it's very understood.
One of the most astonishing things is how top-heavy.
Tell us, Mark.
Well, how top-heavy this cabinet is with Jews, with Zionist Jews.
It's astonishing.
He has named the positions to which he's named ardent Zionist Jews include Secretary of State, Treasury Secretary, Attorney General, Homeland Security Secretary, Director of National Intelligence, and White House Chief of Staff.
I mean, this is just astonishing.
I mean, there's other administrations that have been top-heavy with the representation of the chosen people, but this is just beyond all imagining.
Now, that's not surprising.
That's not surprising given the kind of man Biden is.
And I have, it's on our website, but I've made a big point of this over the years.
In 2013, in May of 2013, Biden gave a speech to a Jewish audience.
And he said, and this is what he said in the speech, Jewish heritage has shaped who we are, all of us, as much or more than any other factor in the last 223 years, and that's a fact, he said.
Then he talked about the huge social cultural changes in American life about gay marriage, civil rights, and so forth.
And he said, think, behind all of that, I bet you 85% of those major social political changes, whether it's in Hollywood or social media, are a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry, that is in the media industry.
The influence is immense.
The influence is immense.
And I might add, it is all to the good.
Now, that's important.
All to the good.
More Jewish influence, all better.
And he's following up by that by putting even more Zionist Jews in these high-level, I mean, unbelievably prominent positions in American foreign policy.
But that's not new.
Clinton did much the same.
Obama did.
This is not a new thing in American life, but it's in keeping with the enormous power that this minority group has in our cultural life, in our educational life, and of course in our political life.
In the last four years, the most prominent donors to both the Republican and Democratic Party have been Jewish billionaires.
Heim Sabin in the case of the Democrats, Sheldon Adelton and his wife in the case of the Republicans, but there's many others in addition.
And as long as that grip on our political life and our social life, our cultural life is in place, there cannot be any real change in the basic direction that America has been going in for quite a long time.
Well, of course, Mark, you're quite right to point out the makeup of this cabinet.
It's supposed to be so incredibly diverse.
It is entirely homogeneous, and it is entirely Jewish.
And they They would say, of course, that we are anti-Semitic for even noticing that.
To even notice that and to ask how such a small percentage of the population could gain such incredible power is, in fact, evil and worthy of punishment.
But how would you respond to that?
Well, this is all part of the tremendous deceit and double standard that prevails in American society.
Whenever a white Christian is appointed to any position, the media pays very careful attention with the assumption that anyone who's white or Christian has to have motives that are very carefully scrutinized on the assumption that any white Christian is going to be in support of policies that are bad.
But that standard is not applied at all to Zionist Jews who play very prominent roles in our life.
To the contrary, the assumption is these people must be altruistic, noble, disinterested, only concerned about what's good.
That's the prevailing assumption.
But the biggest example of this deceit and double standard is the way in which Jewish organizations and American politicians of both parties say that a ethnocentric policy by any country is evil and bad, except for Israel.
In the case of Israel, the United States government and American politicians and the American media insist that Israel must be preserved and defended as a specifically Jewish, ethno-religious state, a principle that the United States says is wrong and evil when it happens in Russia or China or France or England or Germany or any other country.
This is an enormous deceit and double standard that's now widely accepted by the mass media and by politicians of both major parties.
It's a hill to die on.
I mean, it truly is.
So, Mark, you and I, I've been in it for 16 years, you much longer even than I.
And this truth, the fact that this should be debated, it should at least be debated.
Is this good or is this bad for our country?
Is it good or is this bad for the world?
That we have these conversations in the court of public opinion.
We believe that that freedom to express ourselves and to commit to this debate is worth sacrificing for.
And of course, we have sacrificed for that.
And I fear as though the censorship and repression that we've faced thus far will only be strengthened going forward.
We'll get your thoughts on that when we come back.
But I tell you this, a man does not shirk from his duty.
A real man does not run from the truth and from his concerns.
If they are heartfelt, and we'll continue with one of the greatest I know, Mark Weber, when we come back.
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All right, and ladies and gentlemen, we're back with one of the very best, Mark Weber, the director of the Institute for Historical Review, IHR.org.
I wanted to make it a point to have Mark on on this, our first broadcast since the changing of the guard in D.C. and the first show under the Biden regime.
So, Mark, I'm standing in line at a donut shop last Sunday morning.
I went to go get donuts for my kids.
We do it on Sunday mornings on occasion.
We don't like the carbs normally, but the kids, you know, they are kids, so they do like it.
So, but I'm there in line, a random donut shop on Main Street, USA, and I'm overhearing a table full of random senior citizens railing about.
I won't say I couldn't believe my ears, but I mean, it was pleasantly surprising to just hear a group of about six to eight seniors talking in no uncertain terms about how evil this country's media and government is.
Now, these people aren't going to conform to being good, good liberals in light of the regime's oppression.
I believe quite the opposite.
So the question I would have for you now going forward, Mark, into the Biden-Harris administration and whoever's in control going forward for the next two to four years, is the media and the government further radicalizing Red State America in light of what we saw, unfortunately, on the 6th of this month.
I don't see these people becoming obedient Biden supporters in light of the heavy-handed tactics we've seen so far in this new year.
Yes, very much though, yes.
I mean, it's interesting to compare the beginning of the Biden administration with the Obama administration.
When Obama came in, because he was the first black president, the media and to an extent, the mood of the country was one that, well, this is a new chapter.
This is really something.
The media went crazy with lots of talk about a post-racial America, a transformational president.
This is going to be all new.
Everything's going to get better.
After eight years of Obama, that was obviously not going to happen.
But the Obiden administration, despite all of the rhetoric about how he's going to repair and unite the country, everyone, no one is under any illusion that this is anything other than an elderly man who has just barely crept across the finish line,
who in his third time for running for president just barely got the nomination, who's not even exciting the base of his own party, much less the country.
And for all his, the inaugural was a pathetic thing, really.
I mean, I was surprised at how unabashed Pat Buchanan was in characterizing this as one of the flabbiest inaugural addresses ever given by an American president.
And it was.
Hold on, Mark, Mark, Mark.
Pardon the interruption, but hang on right there.
You and Jared, I guess if you appear so frequently as you two do, again, there is the shorthand that exists between us all.
But I was going to ask you about Pat's assessment of the inauguration.
Please share with the audience what his opinions were on that.
Well, let's see.
In fact, the Buchanan column is on the top of our website, and I'll just find to get his exact words.
Yeah.
He said Joe's inaugural address was, and here's the thing, the most confusing, contradictory, and incoherent ever delivered from the steps of the Capitol, reflective of the mind of its author and the state of the union he now leads.
Very true.
But this is inevitable.
This is the direction we've been going in for a long time.
And it cannot be anything other than confusing, contradictory, and incoherent.
Incoherent or contradictory because at the same time that he's talking about all these big dangers, millions of Americans are infected with this terrible disease of extremism and white supremacy.
At the same time, he's promising to unite everyone.
At the same time, he says the danger is very great.
He emphasizes Americans always step up the plate.
We always meet the challenge.
Well, if we always meet the challenge, and this is, by the way, a theme of Republican presidents, too.
America always succeeds.
Well, if it always succeeds, why worry about anything?
Why do you need this man or that man to make it any better?
But anyway, if the danger is great, then it requires not just a lot of empty rhetoric, which characterizes this Biden thing.
It was a pathetic performance, really.
A lot of gooey talk about unity and hope and blah, blah, blah, and nothing specific.
He doesn't even begin to say how the violence in America, the cultural decline, all of those, any of those things can be addressed.
He just talks about how we have to, we're good and we should be united.
Well, uniting around, there's a lot of things to unite around, but Joe Biden is about the last one to unite.
One of the most obvious contradictions is he's promised to root out what he calls systemic racism from America.
He thinks that the country has been plagued by this terrible curse from the beginning to the present, and he's going to root it out.
The last person in the world to do that is Joe Biden.
If anyone is a pillar of the system, it's Joe Biden.
He's been a faithful soldier of the leading party in America for 40 years.
I mean, he's the last person that's going to make any big changes systemically in anything because he's found a pillar of the system.
And it will be obvious within a very short time, if it's not already obvious, that the gap, the enormous gap between the pledges and promises and hopes that he tries to conjure up and the reality will just be painfully obvious to everyone very soon.
The idea that he's going to, as he said in the inaugural, eliminate this gap or disparity in race in America, well, that's eluded every modern society and, of course, America and every society in history.
The idea that he's going to turn that around is just absolute pie-in-the-sky nonsense.
Anyway, this is, so I think that I predicted, of course, that he'll get a good send-off from the media for a while, but it will not be long before the hard realities of American life show that Joe Biden and this new administration are just as incapable as any other in turning things around because the principles on which they base their policies are fundamentally wrong.
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And Mark Weber and the Institute for Historical Review have been doing it longer than we have, and not many have been doing it that long.
Mark, we're only three days into the Biden administration, but already he's done some things.
How would you assess the executive orders and what we've seen so far from the White House just since Wednesday?
And we'll carry this over to the next segment.
We have a minute or two remaining before the next break, but I'd like for you to take a crack at that.
Maybe it's the historian in me.
I tend to let the dust settle before I take a close look at a lot of this, and I'm breaking my rule by paying as close attention as we've been doing here to his inaugural address and other things.
I mean, he'll do everything, of course, very quickly to turn back the executive orders that Trump has put in place.
But the bigger thing is that America is already so far gone that the idea that he's going to change, turn that around or change it, it's absolute madness.
You know, I am gratified, I guess, just how widespread what you witnessed the other day has become in America.
A real loathing and disdain for the mass media.
It was astonishing.
I mean, even a child can see that the way the media portrayed the attack on the Capitol in contrast to the rioting across the country during the summer months is just astonishing.
The people who declared an autonomous zone in Seattle and burning down police centers and businesses were described as mostly peaceful social justice protesters.
But the people who attacked the Capitol are called insurrectionists, dangerous extremists, violent rebels.
I mean, all this.
It's just amazing the contrast in the way that the media, and nobody can fail to see just how biased that kind of media coverage is.
It is certainly amazing, Mark.
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Why don't we say to the government writ large that they have to spend a little bit less?
Anybody ever had less money this year than you had last?
Anybody better have it a 1% pay cut?
You deal with it.
That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut.
If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief.
But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible.
Who are they?
Republicans.
Who are they?
Democrats.
Who are they?
Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money.
So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere.
The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning.
What's the day of reckoning?
The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market.
The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar.
When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency.
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And we are in that transition period from one week to the next between President Trump and now President Biden, if you could believe it.
I think we can all agree Trump was better than Hillary, better than Hillary, better than Biden.
But sadly, mostly talk and rhetoric when it came down to actual policy change.
He was able to exact some change through executive order, which, of course, has been quickly overturned by the next president.
Not a lot of legislative policy changes.
But what he did set was an example on how you can stand up to criticism.
He never apologized to the media.
That was a great example that was set.
That was an example set that other men can follow.
But there was also a wake of destruction.
Not a lot of protection for those of his followers.
We've seen now Sidney Powell be sued by over a billion dollars by Dominion voting.
Mike Lindell has been hung out to dry.
Censorship and oppression, the likes of which prior to Trump was only experienced by people like Mark Weber and Jerry Taylor and James Edwards and others, now has been extended to anyone who voted for the president.
And so it is that censorship and oppression, Mark, that we look to going forward.
What do you see the next two years shaping up as well?
Yeah, I think that's important to talk about the future.
There's a couple of things, of course, of immediate importance.
One is I'm very concerned about the heavy hand of the state coming down on people like you and me and others who are even more outspoken in our rejection of the direction the country's been going in.
And that's been threatening a threat that we've been hearing more and more from the usual suspects.
I was astonished, for example, that the Anti-Deflamation League even called for Trump's removal from office.
Usually they don't get that involved, but they feel their oats.
They feel that they can, powerful organizations like this and politicians, feel they've been given a green light to do everything they can to shut us down, shut and silence those people who they see don't embrace what they call our democracy.
So that's a dangerous thing.
We've seen this kind of harassment and vilification and going on for some time.
We don't need to go into detail about that now, how they cancel credit card processing, they cancel bank services, they cancel social media.
There's material on our website about this, and many others, of course, have these kinds of similar problems, and we can expect that that's probably going to get stepped up because these people think they're on a crusade to stamp out what they call fascism and the enemies of what they call our democracy, and so they're on a roll, and that's going to be a dangerous thing.
The other thing, though, and I've given, I've talked a lot, thought a lot about what will happen with the millions of people who did support Trump now that Trump is gone.
That's a real good question for the future, because the people you saw at the restaurant or the donut shop or whatever who are up unhappy, they don't have any political expression of their rage and unhappiness.
In fact, the leadership they do have is very confused about how we even got into this situation.
And so there's a real problem.
We're never going back to the days of the old Republicans.
The last time there was a Republican who had a wide range of support beyond his own base, you might say, was probably Ronald Reagan.
But that's really a dead end.
I mean, because Ronald Reagan himself embraced this idea that America is really a country for everyone.
It's a universal country.
He signed off on amnesty for 3 million illegal aliens when he was president.
He made Martin Luther King Day a national holiday in spite of his pledge not to do so.
We're never going back.
And the Trump phenomenon is really a limited thing.
Because he himself isn't a man who has any solid worldview or coherent principles or outlook that we can count on.
And I think everybody will sort of acknowledge that, especially with his behavior in the last several days.
But anyway, the bigger point is I think that all that really can be achieved right now, given the very, very difficult situation, is educational work because politically, there's not much that can be done I see on the horizon right now that's really positive in a political practical way right now.
Well, Mark, you are a student of history, and we talked at length about this particular question with Sam Dixon just last week about how nations rise and fall, how civilizations rise and fall.
And you can almost set your watch to it as the sun rises and sets itself on a daily basis.
But the people endure.
A people can endure a national or a civilizational decline.
And I would have to say, I have always been, of course, a glass is half full type of activist.
I've always been a happy warrior.
But I do believe, though, that America is in a terminal decline.
Terminal meaning there's no elixir.
There's no medicine.
There's no prescription that will save it at this point.
You look forward.
What is America's future?
Not just between the two and four years of the Democrats having a one-party state, but going forward, what happens to America in the relatively near or perhaps distant future?
Well, that you know, when people talk about America, People, the big question that's really underlying all of the disputes we have is really one of identity.
What does it mean to be an American?
For many people, America is just a collection of whoever happens to live here.
For others, it means something more than that.
It has some definition other than just being a collection of individuals.
In his inaugural address, Biden said that what characterizes America is its love of, and this is what he said, opportunity, security, liberty, dignity, respect, honor, and truth.
Well, there's hardly any society in the world that would say that didn't believe in that.
That's nothing particular about America.
But America is declining as a civilization, as a country that was built by founders in the late 1700s and which was very successful for a long time.
But the founding fathers had a view of America and of themselves that's completely antithetical, completely opposite of the view of America that now the politicians and the media say we must embrace of a universal society.
By today's standards, all of the founding fathers were white supremacists.
The men who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration were all white supremacists.
They didn't want a country for everyone.
Indians were alien nations.
Blacks were slaves.
But that view is one that now is considered so wrong, we're going to tear down their statues and rename everything because they represent an America that's not consistent with the universalist, egalitarian one that we're all supposed to be supporting.
Now, unless we get straight, though, about definitions and unless policies are based on realism and reality, historical and social and real time, there's no turning things around.
But Americans yet are still very, very influenced by Hollywood, the mass media, and they want it to be both ways.
They want a kind of white Christian country, but they don't think it's wrong because they're told by the media to explicitly fight and work for that.
And as long as things are not explicitly done, they're going to be lost.
And that's what's happened in America.
Folks, you've got to support the organizations that have stood the test of time and have produced consistent, positive, forward-moving results.
IHR is at the top of my list.
Institute for Historical Review, Mark Weber is its director.
IHR.org.
Make it one of your daily visits.
Support the work there Mark does.
Mark, with only a couple of minutes remaining, I want to thank you again for the time you've given us this evening, for the time you've spent with our audience.
Another hour gone by far too quickly.
We have one minute left, and I would just ask you to end it with this question, with 60 seconds remaining.
What are your thoughts on those ostensibly on our side who cheered over the course of the last year for Trump's demise?
Is Biden going to do anything to improve their lot?
You mean is economically things going to get better for people even if they supported Trump?
Well, in any way, by any standard of metric, by any standard of measurement, will Biden do?
I understand people being disappointed with Trump to the point where they would root against him, but will Biden do anything better for them?
Oh, I see.
I see.
No, I mean, he can't.
I mean, America, with each passing year, each passing month, even, is becoming more and more a third world country, and all of that means.
And there'll be fluctuations in the economic life of the country.
Things may go up, things may go down.
But the overall trajectory is very clear.
Different kinds of people make different kinds of societies.
And as America becomes a more diverse, divided, and heterogeneous society, it's going to be less capable of achieving goals or doing anything very well.
And that's inevitable.
And whether temporarily, I mean, we're sustaining what we already have by just lots of debt, lots of money being thrown at problems.
And that's going to run out at some point.
But so people should just keep that more firmly in mind and not think that there's easy, quick solutions somewhere.
Mark Weber, thank you so much, my dear friend.
I appreciate every time you appear on this program.