July 25, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Good evening, friends.
Good evening.
That's Winston Smith here, sitting in for James Edwards.
Had a good first hour, and looking forward to a second hour.
We're here to welcome in the Political Cesspool, Reverend Brett McAtee.
He's a pastor in the church in Michigan, and he's a good friend of mine.
He's a writer, and he's a fan favorite.
I mean, I was the first one to interview him on the political cesspool, and you people seem to like him a lot.
So let's welcome him to the cesspool.
Reverend Brett, how are you?
Hi, Winston.
I'm doing well.
Actually, you gave me a birthday gift.
Today is my birthday, and thank you for having me on.
Well, a very happy birthday to you, Reverend.
I hope this is a good present for you.
I'm sure it will be.
It already is.
All right, let's get into what we want to talk about.
The Wuhan virus, the coronavirus, the COVID-19 virus, it has dominated news cycles ever since it crept its way into the network.
As a Christian, can you explain why you think this Wuhan virus is largely a hoax?
Sure.
Obviously, again, I think we need to keep in mind that there's a difference between the possible existence of this thing called the Wuhan virus and the narrative that's surrounding the Wuhan virus.
It may indeed be the case that there's something strange out there called the Wuhan virus that it actually exists.
And that it's especially virulent to the aged and those with immunocompromised systems.
However, even that remains, in my opinion, an open question.
But when you look at the larger narratives surrounding the Wuhan virus, it's clearly a myth.
There are several steps that I've taken in order to reach that conclusion.
The first step is this.
Governments routinely lie.
And the bigger the lie, the more likely they're lying.
And let me just give a few examples.
Government lied when FDR said in 1940.
I've said this before, but I will say it again and again and again.
Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars.
He knew he was lying when he said it.
Another example, Obama said, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
He was lying.
Another example, George H.W. Bush said, read my lips, no new taxes.
And for example's sake, I'll only give one more.
George W. Bush insisted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
So governments lie.
And the bigger the lie, the bigger the event, the more likely they're lying.
And so I believe on that basis, I should be very skeptical of what the feds or even the states tell me.
The second reason that I think this is a false narrative is, well, first of all, the CDC itself says right now we're not in a pandemic.
So if that's true, why are we having to wear a mask?
Secondly, we just have scabs of seriously reputable scientists and professionals coming forth with a counter narrative, but they keep getting shut down.
Their narrative is not being pushed out.
Taking, for example, the Yale epidemiologist chap at Yale named Harvey Rich who said that he believes that the drug hydrooxychloroquine could save up to 100,000 lives if used properly to treat the Wuhan virus.
And this is a guy at Yale.
This is no bumps out in the street, and yet the press has already said and made the case that hydrooxychloroquine is useless.
But you have other guys.
There's a chap. at Stanford named Dr. Jay Bacherachua.
He's a professor of medicine at Stanford.
When this thing came out, he put out research that was counter to the narrative that was being pushed.
And he said that this stuff was, his research did not support the phony New World Order narrative.
So there are also Dr. Barland, Dr. Buddar, Dr. Sherry Pennypenny, among countless others who have said this narrative that we've been sold is ridiculous.
It's just not true.
Those are two reasons.
The third reason I believe this narrative is a hoax is the unreliability of the testing.
False positives are as high as 50%, and false negatives likewise abound.
So if we're getting this kind of false information from the test, then why should we conclude that we should take this thing seriously?
Two more reasons why I think it's a hoax, the whole Wuhan narrative.
Hospitals are incentivized to report increased numbers of Wuhan cases because the money follows the number of cases they have.
So the more cases of Wuhan they get, the more money the Fed send to them.
Now, hospitals will say, well, no, we never do that.
But the federal government also said that they didn't give syphilis to the Tuskegee airmen.
So if there's going to be money following the cases, that's reason enough for me to think it's a hoax.
And then, of course, there's irresponsible way.
The media has covered this story over and over again.
They haven't mentioned the fact that COVID especially hits and overwhelmingly hits the elderly.
Instead, we're giving the sense from the media that it could just be, it could be anybody.
It could be the toddler next to you.
And it's just a misrepresentation.
So for those reasons and others, I just do not accept the Wuhan virus narrative.
I'm not even sure I accept the Wuhan virus as being any different than the common, just a variant of the common cold.
So you're saying that there may be something out there, but it's not as bad as we're being told.
But they started this narrative that it's the most dangerous virus ever, and they have to keep building on that.
If that's the case, I suggest that the mascot of COVID-19 is Pinocchio.
Right.
It's just one narrative in order to serve the purpose of convincing people that they're actually doing something about it.
Another thing, hospitals, they built all those ruddy hospitals, including the field hospitals, and they never needed them.
They built so many that they were turning away regular customers in order to deal with the influx of the Wuhan.
They ended up having to lay people off because they turned irregular customers away.
We get governors from Michigan, my own governor, I hate to admit it.
Governors from New York and New Jersey who shove COVID-active patients in the nursing homes with the result of spreading it to the sick.
Why aren't these governors charged with some form of murder?
It's just ridiculous.
And so I think it's a hoax largely.
I don't take it seriously, except perhaps as it applies to the elderly and those with the famous co-morbidities.
Earlier you mentioned the false positives.
They're as high as 50%.
I've seen that statistic as well, and I've even seen, I've seen even higher ones.
Now, we are told that the science is in.
You know, the narrative says the science is in.
We know what this is, and we know. how widespread it is, but these 50% false positives, that's not science.
I would think that, you know, let's take it, let's take any other scientific discipline.
Let's take civil engineering.
It's a science.
And if you're building a bridge as a civil engineer, I would hope that you have a success rate more than 50%.
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Um, folks, welcome back to tonight's political festival.
I'm Mr. Smith, and I'm talking with Reverend Brett McAtee about the current crisis of the Wuhan virus, the coronavirus, the COVID-19 virus, whatever you want to call it.
Reverend Brett, it seems, I would say, that the most visible sign of the times that we live in is these masks that you see everywhere.
And I got to tell you, I went to a grocery store today, local grocery store.
I live in a very small, I live near a small town, and has one grocery store.
And I went in, as I have several times, without wearing a mask, and I was stopped by some woman, and she was talking.
And, you know, I have to see lips in order to know what someone is saying.
And I told her, you know, you got to take your mask off so I can see your lips.
Everybody that knows that I can't hear.
I don't know why she didn't get the word.
But she took off her mask and said, you have to have a mask if you want to come here.
And I said, but you're not wearing one.
And she kind of got mad at me, but she said, we have a mask over here before you.
And so I took her mask and I put it in my pocket.
I walked around a free man in that grocery store.
But can you narrow in even more, home in even more on your issues with masks as a biblical Christian?
Sure.
But before I do that, let me touch on something you mentioned before we went to the break.
And that you said that supposedly the science is in.
The problem is, is that, well, first of all, we all know how political this whole matter is.
But aside from that, and that's huge, that's important.
We have to understand that science is dependent upon theology.
Thomas Koons made this point, perhaps accidentally, in his book, Structures of Scientific Revolution.
There is no such thing as science that is not dependent upon the theology that's informing it.
So these people are pagans.
They have pagan theology to begin with.
And so the conclusions that they're going to get from their science, so-called, is going to be skewed.
Most people don't realize that.
Most people think that science is this great independent God out there, but it's not.
It's dependent upon the scientist and his world, what he's going to see and what he's going to find, and the questions he's going to ask.
Now, combine that with that reality with the fact that in this case, the science is serving political ends.
And we're reminded of Trofim Lysenko, who was a scientist during the era of Stalin and Russia, and who insisted, and Stalin supported him.
He insisted that the science was in about grain.
And this Lysenko went contrary to the great scientist Mendel.
And they all followed him.
And some say that Lysenko, by his false, silly science, killed more people than any one individual has ever killed because of the way that he tried to produce grain in the Soviet Union.
It was all bogus.
It was all based on presuppositions that were lodged in the Marxist materialistic dialectic.
And so appealing to science to me means crap.
Okay.
What science and what theology is driving the science has to be the question asked.
Now, as we turn to the mask issues, what's the problem with the mask is simple.
The Ninth Commandment.
in the Bible says thou shalt not bear false witness.
And the Westminster Confession says the duties required the Ninth Commandment are the preserving and promoting of truth between man and man.
When I'm wearing a mask, I am not preserving and promoting the truth because we know that masks don't work.
We know it over and over again, study after study after study.
14 studies have shown that masks cannot stop viral infections.
Masks can stop bacteria, but they can't stop viruses.
So try to imagine a strainer that you put your spaghetti in or your macaroni and you pour water over it.
The mask is the strainer.
The spaghetti or macaroni isn't coming out.
All right.
But the water is, and the water is that virus.
I'm sorry, the water is the bacterium.
The virus, I'm sorry, the water is the virus that still can get out through the mask.
And so the idea that the mask is solving anything is absolutely preposterous.
And by wearing it, I'm pleading for an evil cause.
I'm pleading for an evil cause in as much as I'm allowing the state to do something that allows it to control its citizenry.
When in point of fact, it's we, the people, that should be controlling the state.
So my first beef with a mask, that is a violation of thou shall not bear false witness.
And any clergy who tells you you have to wear a mask when it's known that the mask doesn't work is himself violating the Ninth Commandment and has no business being a member of the clergy.
I already mentioned this.
14 studies have shown that masks do not work to stop viruses.
And yet we keep pushing this narrative.
Three months ago, they were telling us, take the mask off.
They don't make any difference.
Don't bother with them.
But now all of a sudden we have to wear masks.
It's all about a narrative to control people and fill them with fear.
And you can manipulate people who are full of fear to do almost anything.
It really screws me into the ceiling to see Christians believe this stuff when it's contrary to their faith.
So we do indeed have a biblical basis for not wearing a mask, and it's found in the Ninth Commandment.
You know, I love the way we reform people, we Calvinists, I love the way we deal with the Ten Commandments.
I think it's a beautiful thing.
When I started studying the Ten Commandments in the light of Reformed faith, they were not burdensome.
They became sweet.
They became wonderful.
And folks, you need to get a right understanding of the decalogue in order for your Christianity to be complete and satisfactory, in my opinion.
But we do have a biblical basis for not wearing a mask.
But somebody will come along and say, but we have a scientific basis for wearing the mask.
And we can just simply go back and say, well, your science is wrong 50% of the time.
Those steps are wrong 50% of the time.
Is that a scientific basis?
No, that's almost a religious basis.
That's almost, it's not even a religious basis because our faith rests on facts.
They are putting their faith in the words of men, men who are known liars.
That's absolutely accurate.
And it's not only the Sixth Commandment, Winston.
I'm sorry, the Ninth Commandment.
It's also the Sixth Commandment, because the Sixth Commandment Forbids me doing harm to myself.
And when I wear those masks, as studies have shown, it introduces a whole complex of potentialities in me infecting myself, with me getting pleurisy on my lungs.
And so it's not just the ninth commandment, it's the sixth commandment.
Plus, I'm also doing harm to my neighbor in terms of the sixth commandment because I'm convincing them that somehow they're safe when that's a complete, that's a complete lie.
And so it's not, it's especially the ninth commandment, but it's also the sixth commandment.
Also, when we consider masks, we have to understand that the mask, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica, is a form of disguise or concealment, usually worn over or in front of the face to hide the identity of a person and by its own features to establish another being.
So the mask completes the work of the globalist to turn men into a cod so that all cods are seen as replaces for other cogs.
So if you look out over a crowd of people all wearing masks, you don't see men and women.
You don't see individuals.
What you see is egalitarian cods interchangeable parts, which is the perfect expression of egalitarianism that we're all the same.
The mask is a better instrument for egalitarianism than even the mouse suit was or the furgen cap.
And so what the mask communicates is an egalitarian world.
It fits the idea that we're all the same.
And I'm beside myself as the clergy are so shallow that they can't think past, well, loving your neighbor means doing what the authorities say.
They can't see that there's more going on.
They have to go to a break right now.
Stay with us, folks.
We'll be right back with more of Reverend Brett McAtee going off on the Wuhan virus.
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I'm Nathan Smith, and I'm here with Reverend Brett McAtee, fan favorite and all-around nice guy, an encyclopedia of information that you should listen to frequently.
And if you can't listen to him frequently, you can certainly read him frequently.
Reverend Brett, you're a contributor to two online websites, two online magazines or sources of information.
Can you tell us about those?
Sure.
The first one is Tribal Theocrat.
And I'm associated with a great group of people over there who I'm Tribal Theocrat.
I'm with a great group of guys who excel me in cultural analysis and applying biblical Christianity.
It really should be the case that people turn to that as a resource for them because they sure aren't getting it from pulpits and they aren't getting it from the average clergy member.
And so if they want to understand biblical, muscular biblical Christianity, they should read Tribal Theocrat regularly.
Also, I, of course, am on my own blog.
I post often.
I post several times a day.
I'm doing biblical Christianity there, Explanation of the Doctrines of Faith, also cultural analysis, political analysis.
I could be writing on any number of things, but I'm often, I'm always doing it from a Christian worldview, a Christian understanding.
These are important sources for people to consider.
And I hope that they'll make Tribal Theocrat and Iron Inc part of their daily reading regimen.
I hope so too.
I've benefited from both those websites.
I always enjoy seeing your new articles.
And folks, he is not kidding.
Reverend Brett will write about, you know, six or seven topics a day.
And his writing is always good.
So once again, take a look at Tribal Theocrat and Iron Inc.
You won't be sorry.
All right, Reverend Rhett.
I am looking at a yard sign, you know, much like those political yard signs you see during the campaign season.
And on this yard sign, at the top on the left side, there's a portrait of Jesus, obviously painted sometime during his ministry.
And on the left side of the sign, on the right side of the sign is a face mask, looks like a surgical mask or one of the silly things you see running around today.
And then under it, here's what it says: For the safety of all, face masks are required to be able to call yourself my follower.
So, this sign is saying that if you want to consider yourself be a follower of Jesus, you better be wearing a mask.
That seems rather heretical to me because they are adding to the criteria for being a follower of Jesus.
Jesus never said anything like that.
But the mask is becoming the sign of a cult.
You agree with that?
Absolutely.
That's part of what I was getting at earlier when I was talking about the fact that it's an egalitarian symbol, much like the Fergian cap was in the French Revolution, and much like the Mao Suit was during the Mao Revolution.
It's communicating that we're all the same.
And yes, it is part of a cult.
And it isn't, the whole Wuhan thing is an expression of a religion in general.
It's the Wuhan religion.
And we've already seen it's contrary to biblical Christianity.
The Sixth Commandment and the Ninth Commandment, and I would even say the first commandment, having no other gods before me, disallows us from wearing these masks when it's been clearly seen that they are ineffective to the end of which we're supposed to be wearing them.
So mask wearing, contrary to yard sign, which I've seen it makes me ill, contrary to Todd Freyon, his radio show, contrary to Tim Bailey, a well-known Reformed pastor in Indianapolis, mask wearing when not necessary is antichrist.
And pastors who keep writing Hallmark tropes and how one is showing love to Jesus and are doing, they are doing antichrist work, they're doing the work of the devil.
They fail to realize not only what's been said, but they fail to realize the mask is really conditioning for one more step into the breach of government tyranny.
And as I've been trying to teach my people from the pulpit and trying to teach from the lectern, and I've even mentioned it in the show already, the number one enemy of biblical Christians today is the state.
And that enmity, that warfare, that religious cult status that the state's creating is seen in the wearing of masks.
So you're absolutely right.
It's a cult.
And I'm not getting into that cult.
I think the biggest group of fools, if you will, who bought into the mask wearing and the coronavirus hoax, the coronavirus narrative hoax, are Christians.
The governors began, when they began their attacks on this so-called disease, they went straight for the churches.
And they started saying, well, these are places where people gather.
They need to be regulated.
And so many pastors and so many sessions, a session is what we call the in the Reformed faith.
That's what we call the deacons and elders.
But so many sessions just willingly, without any question, said, oh, we'll obey.
And a lot of people are being turned away from churches or being turned off to churches because the average Christian sees what's going on.
And they don't want to be involved in a church that is going to be shaped by the world when the church is supposed to be shaping the world.
Right.
I mean, they're violating Romans 12: be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may be able to prove that which is good and acceptable in your reasonable form of worship.
And so, ministers are touting the wearing of masks are doing an absolute evil.
But I got to tell you, my church has grown because of these guys.
People are saying, just as you said, I'm not putting up with that.
And I can't tell you how many visitors my small, humble church has had.
We've had more visitors during the Wuhan than we've had in my previous 20 years here.
And that's not an exaggeration.
And praise God, some of them are sticking.
Some of them are saying, I'm not going back.
And so that's good.
But what these ministers need to be told is something that Alexander Solzyn Heatson said.
He said, and I'm quoting here: the simple truth of a courageous individual is to not take part in the lie.
One word of truth outweighs the world.
You can resolve to live your life with integrity.
Let your credo be this.
Let the lie come into the world.
Let it even triumph, but not through me.
And Solzy Heaton knew something about tyrannical, oppressive governments.
And so we ought to take his advice and live not by lies.
And I would to God that if there are any clergy members that are listening to this, they would grow a backbone and realize and look into this harder than the shadow surface level that they're looking at it.
Masks are thus supporting the lie of the social order that needs, that instigates fear.
Masks are supporting a social order controlled by the state.
And both of these narratives are narratives that no Christian worth of belief in Christ has any business having any tuck with.
And so I'll pause there because I don't want to overwhelm people.
Well, that's good.
We have a caller who'd like to chime in.
We have Patrick on the line.
Patrick, you're on the political steps pool with Winston Smith and Reverend Brett McAtee.
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I just want to go back to you.
You talk about the religious aspect where, you know, Christian identity, where we were, you know, we're never taught more than what they want us to know.
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I'm Lynn Smith, and I'm here with Reverend Brett McAtee.
And we're talking about the coronavirus narrative hoax.
We're not at the point where we're going to say that there's not some kind of disease out there.
If there is, it's probably not as bad as the common cold and certainly not as bad as the flu that comes by every year.
But it's the narrative that we take issue with.
The narrative is being used to control the American people and to control people around the world.
And we talked about masks and what a devious thing they are.
Reverend Brett, in this last segment, what I'd like to ask you about is something that Christians frequently face in these kinds of questions, and that's Romans 13, where Paul tells us to obey the authorities.
And a lot of Christians and a lot of ministers don't read that entire chapter the way they should.
They don't even read the entire chapter.
They don't get past that first verse that says, obey those in authority.
And I think that's a way to kill your church and to kill your spirituality.
So what do we say to your average layman doesn't have a great theological education because he's going to a modern church, but he's been told to obey the authorities.
What do we tell them in the face of this narrative hoax?
Okay, it appears we've lost Reverend Brett, and I know Sam is working.
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Okay, excellent.
So continue with Romans 13.
Yeah, let's focus on Romans 13, 3, because that's important.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil.
Do you want to be unafraid of authority?
Do what is good, and you'll have praise from the same.
So Paul's saying, do what is good.
And of course, our response has to be by what standard?
By what standard do we do good?
Well, the Christian only has one standard, and that is God's explicit law.
So a ruler who's a terror to good works is telling me, Paul's telling me that he's a terror, he's not a terror to those who follow God's law.
So I have to conclude from that that if the ruler is a terror to those who do God's law, then he's not God's magistrate.
He's not somebody that God has appointed consistent with his word to hold that particular position.
If he was somebody that was assigned that position, according to God's word, he wouldn't be a terror to those who are doing good works.
Secondly, we have to consider that no authority has absolute sovereignty over God.
And so if a magistrate is exercising authority inconsistent with God's authority, that magistrate has abdicated his authority.
And so Romans 13 cannot be used as a piece of meat that you throw to somebody and say, shut up and obey.
It's a completely wrong understanding, especially for reformed people.
It is a remarkable misunderstanding of their own history and how Romans 13 has been handled.
Romans 13 has never been handled in such a way to tell God's people that they have to mask up when masks don't work when told by the sovereign magistrate.
Second of all, you have to place all of Romans 13 in our context.
Magistrates are employees of the people.
Magistrates in our system are not kings over the people.
So they're answerable and responsible to us.
We are not answerable ultimately and responsible to them.
When they're acting consistent with God's law, then we obey them gladly.
We even kiss the ring, if you want to put it that way.
But when they're requiring something that's inconsistent with God's law, when they're requiring us to be full of fear, when they're requiring us to put on an egalitarian symbol that's contrary to biblical Christianity, when they're requiring us to do something that is ridiculous, we don't have to obey them.
So the right understanding of Romans 13 is not total unquestioning obedience to the state, but rather obedience to the authorities as long as the authorities are in accord with God's law.
Absolutely right.
Absolutely.
If somebody wants to look into this more exacting, I have a piece on Iron Inc, Romans 13 and the possibility of civil disobedience.
I'm telling you, if you go behind the 20th century and you start looking at what our fathers have said on Romans 13, people will be amazed.
Consistently, they have said that we're not responsible to obey disobedient authorities.
Let me just give you one by John Knox.
The sword of justice, and here Knox is talking to the queen, the sword of justice, madam, is God and is given to princes and rulers for one end.
And if they fail in their duty and spare the wicked, then those who intervene and deal out the requisite punishment will not offend God.
Nor are those who restrain kings from striking innocent men committing any sin, as numerous biblical examples demonstrate.
In Scotland, judges are empowered by acts of parliament to seek out and punish those who celebrate the mass.
And it's your duty, madam, to support them.
You should therefore consider what it is that your subjects expect from you and what it is that you ought to do under them by mutual contract.
Here's the kicker.
They are bound to obey you and that not but in God.
You are bound to keep laws under them.
You crave of them a service, they crave of your protection.
Now, madam, if you shall not deny your duty unto them, think ye to receive full obedience of them.
I fear, madam, you shall not.
So Knox is telling them, is telling Queen Mary, look, if you're not going to walk in terms of God's law, then don't expect your subjects to treat you as a legitimate authority.
And that's just Knox.
I could quote 20 more people from history who say very similar things.
And this is what drives me nuts.
Nobody's aware of this history.
Why aren't the clergy aware of this?
So we are perfectly justified in telling the magistrates, lex mola lex noa.
An evil law is no law.
Exactly right.
And not only that, if you keep pursuing this, you have abandoned your legitimacy as a sovereign.
People don't realize this, but the whole American revolution against King George was for this very reason.
George had violated their political covenants, and the consequence of George violating their political covenant meant that the colonialists understood they no longer had any responsibility of obedience to King George.
It's the same way now.
If magistrates are going to rule wickedly, they have said to their constituents, I am not a magistrate.
And their constituents have no responsibility to listen to them.
Indeed, they have a responsibility to try to overthrow them.
You have some experience with that kind of magistrate in your own state of Michigan, don't you?
Absolutely.
This woman here is Jezebel is a great example compared to what we're dealing with here in Michigan.
All right, we have a few minutes left.
And what I want to ask you is, let's get practical.
The average layman, you know, like me, and, you know, your average churchman, what can we do?
How should we then live in the face of this?
If you're layman, the first thing you can do is talk to your pastor if he's skewed on this subject.
All right.
Do a little bit of work yourself.
You can look at Iron Inc.
It has all kinds of references and you can encourage him.
If you will not budge, then you have to leave your church.
That's my conviction.
You have to find some place that isn't going to basically be a status church.
So that's the first thing that we can do as public people.
We can quit supporting, both with our attendance and our tithes, these churches that are status churches.
The second thing we can do is we can make it, of course, a matter of prayer.
The third thing that we can do, and I don't want to diminish prayer, it's incredibly important.
The third thing that we can do is we can teach our children so that they grow up understanding that a magistrate is only as good as when they're following God's explicit law word.
All right.
So we've got three courses that we can move here.
We can make it a matter of prayer.
We can secondly teach our children, catechize them.
We can go to our ministers and tell them, look, here's some other information on Romans 13 that you might need to consider when you're determining these kinds of things.
Fourth, of course, if people believe in voting, they can vote for people who at least give lip service to the kind of things that we're talking about here.
I'm not a big believer in voting or I think that voting harder is not going to change where we're at at this point, but some people are.
And so that's something that they can consider.
And finally, fifth, people can rise up.
At some point, that's going to have to happen if we keep moving down this road.
As I see it, Brett, well, I have to leave it off there.
I want to thank Reverend Brett McAtee for being on the show tonight.
Thank you for joining us.
And stay tuned for James Edwards and Sam Bushman.
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