June 27, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, in the third hour, next hour, the third and final hour of tonight's live broadcast and every broadcast we do here on TPC, yours truly, and Keith Alexander will continue to examine and break down some of the most, as we put it last week, the most ludicrous headlines of the week.
So we did a lot of it in the first hour.
We got a lot more to do.
So that's no shortage.
No shortage.
Yes, we're going to have to go four hours, I guess.
But no, a lot more to come tonight.
So don't miss a minute of it.
But first, we are very happy, always pleased to welcome back to the program Dr. Kevin McDonald.
Kevin McDonald is a former professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach, and the author of several books, including Cultural Insurrections and his most recent Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition.
He currently serves as editor of the Occidental Quarterly.
Be sure to check him out at theOccidentalObserver.net.
He returns this hour to help us make sense of a world gone mad.
Kevin, always good to have you on the show.
Really looking forward to tonight's conversation.
It's great to be here, James, as always.
Well, the last time you were here...
Let's talk about it.
No, really?
So I'm just going to give the opening salvo to you, my friend.
The last time you were here was in January.
And I told Jesse Lee Peterson last week, January seemed like the halcyon days of American history compared to where we are now.
What, look.
We're going over Niagara Falls in a barrel as a society.
What's going?
What's driving it, Kevin?
Yeah, what would have been your most – all right, let me put it this way and let you go in any direction you want.
Because I do want to talk about the psychology behind whites, but first to you, of everything that's happened in recent weeks, what has struck you the most?
What has troubled me the most?
Wow, the whole thing.
I mean, the toppling of the statues and polluting the rioting.
I've been most struck by the fact that this is a top-down revolution.
I mean, this is, you know, you turn on the TV and you see these poor blacks rioting, you know, and doing all this stuff.
And you see these white antifa who probably live in their mother's basement.
And they don't, you know, they're not really, you know, prestigious people by any means.
But, you know, when you see, you know, corporations making donations to Black Lives Matter, when you see universities, you know, I'm still on the email list at my own university, and they're all virtue signaling about this thing.
You know, it's unanimous.
Nobody ever dissents from it.
And when you see political leaders, the mayor of Seattle, the governors, basically telling the police to stand down.
I mean, in Seattle, they burned the police station.
They've trashed businesses.
I mean, there's no concern for these small businesses who probably never come back.
The first day had the virus.
Now they got this.
You know, the top newspapers, the Washington Post, New York Times, you look at them.
The Times published an op-ed by a history professor earnestly informing the public that a statue in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park, whose links to white supremacy are not obvious, need to be destroyed, she said, because it's linked to Sir Francis Drake, the English explorer.
And he apparently was a slave trader back, you know, 16th century or something.
So it's pervasive.
It's the top people, the top organizations.
Look at Apple, Facebook, Coca-Cola.
And that's the thing about this.
This is not, you know, you're going to have a revolution.
It's nice to have the elites on your side.
It's nice to be able to have that support.
And so that's what's really struck me about this.
And that's why I think we have to be very concerned about it because it's coinciding with a major push to censor dissident thought.
You're even pressuring Facebook and Twitter to get more extreme in how they remove so-called hate speech.
And you're seeing now campaigns to boycott Facebook ads, Twitter ads by all these companies.
And the results have been that Facebook went down 8% or something like that.
And this is elite.
I mean, guys, without a high school education, black guys running around looting and doing all this stuff.
They can't do this kind of stuff.
This is high-level stuff.
So I think that's why this does have legs.
I'm hopeful that this will make people wake up.
If you listen to conservative radio, there's certainly a lot of outrage about it.
But the polls don't look good.
And, you know, there's this moral fervor out there that we've talked about, and I talk a lot about in my books, you know, that has just been amped up.
And it's terrible.
You know, it's the kind of thing that this moral imperative we could probably talk about.
It's just white people just knuckle under that.
I mean, they don't want to be seen as bad people.
And so I do fear that there'll be some kind of Democrat sweep in November.
But when you combine a bad economy because of the virus with this thing and Trump not really getting a handle on this, I just, you know, despite the fact that Biden is a non-entity, I don't know.
You know, we'll see.
Kevin, this is Keith Alexander.
Let me ask you this.
Every fool on the left has access to a megaphone, a microphone.
They're the only opinions that we're hearing about.
There's no white spokesman.
And this is obviously far beyond going against the Confederacy or slavery.
It is anti-white, pure and simple.
And there doesn't seem to be any pushback from any group of white people.
The Mississippi legislature, for example, voted to take down the Confederate emblem on the state flag.
You know, this is really T.S. Eliot from the Hollow Man saying this is the way the world will end, not with a bang, but a whimper.
Is there some reason why we're not hearing any dissenting voices at all?
Or what do you make of that?
Well, I mean, white voices, explicitly white, identified as white voices have been proscribed for a long time.
I mean, we don't have any organization like the NAACP or La Raz or anything like that.
Basically, that is the third rail out there.
Politician says you should stand up for white interests.
We have a stake to play.
We shouldn't be ashamed of our past.
We're getting a one-sided picture here and all that.
But it falls into their fusion, and they will go against anybody who sticks his head up.
And that's why, you know, it's just going to get worse.
I mean, this is why I talk about those campaigns, even against Facebook, which is, of course, Jewish company, basically.
And Twitter.
So it's wall to wall, and it is anti-white in its essence.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
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And now back to tonight's show.
Thank you, Art Frith.
Thank you, Del Shannon.
I want to remind you one more time, ladies and gentlemen, to be sure to stay tuned to the third hour tonight, all the way through.
It's wall-to-wall coverage of these headlines.
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Before we get back to our featured guest for this evening, Dr. Kevin McDonald, the esteemed professor Keith, a quick comment.
Right.
Dr. McDonald, Voltaire said back in the French Enlightenment, if you want to know who rules over you, ask who you are not allowed to criticize.
We're going to ask you that in relation to this leftist assault that we've been witnessing over the past month on traditional white racial interests.
Who is behind that?
Yeah, I mean, as I said, it is a top-down phenomenon.
I study Jews, obviously.
And my argument basically about this, I mean, because it's certainly not all Jews.
I mean, you've got all these organizations, these big companies and all that.
It's far more than that.
At the same time, Jews are certainly a central part of our new elite, especially since the 1960s.
And this is a major aspect of my book, The Culture of Critique.
This really goes back to the 1960s.
And actually, a lot of us sort of reminisce it.
In the 1960s, we had riots in Detroit.
We had the Watts riots, various other places in the 1960s, especially after Martin Luther King was assassinated.
But it's been going on since then, Rodney King, the Ferguson, you name it.
But certainly, Jewish organizations have been central to the civil rights movement.
I document that.
And they have pursued this.
In the present situation, the major Jewish organizations are entirely on board with this and they've made resolutions and so on.
The only exception is this guy, Morton Klein of the Zionist Organization of America.
He actually treated that he said, BMM is a Jew-hating, white-hating, Israel-hating, conservative-black-hating, violence-promoting, dangerous, solace-funded, extremist group of haters.
As far as surprising.
But a lot of that is true.
And I think it is, you know, that, you know, and it reflects some sort of ambivalence among Jews that this black-Jewish alliance is not all its, you know, sometimes mentioned to be.
I mean, there were all that violence in New York last winter against Orthodox Jews by blacks.
And so, you know, it's sort of an, you know, but in something like the present situation, they're fundamentally on board with the major narrative.
And, you know, part of my book, The Culture Critique, you know, is certainly that I documented a lot of these Jewish intellectuals who are very famous and important, like Freud and so forth, who just expressed hatred towards the people and culture of the West.
And that's really what we're saying about it.
This is an anti-West, anti-anti-white revolution going on here.
And one example of that, just the other day, they started to have a campaign to take down the statue of St. Louis in St. Louis IX of France.
I saw that.
Yeah, I talked about that in my second book.
I think St. Louis was a, he was a saint.
He was probably the most powerful, wealthiest man in Europe at the time, 13th century.
But he lived like a monk, he was a true Christian.
Married to one woman, had 11 kids, and we went off on the crusades to fight the Muslims.
But he also prohibited Jews from lending money.
And they ended up leaving because they couldn't make money that way.
And so the point is that the Jews don't like him at all.
So now there's a campaign to take down his statue.
So far, they haven't had to ask to actually rename the city of St. Louis, but that's coming probably.
Yeah, I mean, why not?
If they can rename the state of Rhode Island, if they can take down the state flag of Mississippi, why not rename the city?
I mean, that seems commonplace.
Well, one of the things we've always said, Dr. McDonald, is that Jews are the yeast that makes the dough rise in every left-wing movement.
And, you know, Giles Corey, who is one of the writers for Occidental Observer, your organization, said recently, remember, the enemy is Jewish.
All else is distraction.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm at the Occidental Observer.
I'm sorry, Kevin, go ahead.
And Kevin, very quickly respond to that.
And then we have a caller from Colorado, especially for you.
So, Kevin, to you very quickly.
Well, just, you know, this petition is a basic petition that these people have gotten together against St. Louis.
They said, but they should call Lewis a, quote, rabbit anti-Semite who inspired Nazi Germany.
You believe that?
As if Hitler was this.
I've never heard that before.
Yeah, but I'll tell you.
I'll tell you, Kevin, I have been to the city of Wehrms in Germany, where they have a very beautiful plaza with a very striking monument to Martin Luther.
I mean, you know, this is really what it's devolved into is, and by the way, that's where the diet of Werms was.
If there's any statues of him, they're going to go after, you know, Lutheran churches.
Change your name.
Do something.
Exactly.
I mean, basically, any white who was born or lived before 1965, they're gone.
I mean, they're all on the topic.
We got to go to this caller, though.
Gentlemen, we have to go to this caller very quickly.
Matt in Colorado, you have a question or a comment for Dr. McDonald?
Oh, yeah, I just want to call it a, hey, Keith, you should write a book because I own a book from James and Dr. McDonald too.
That's right.
You got the trifecta.
What's that?
No, I said you would have the trifecta when Keith writes his memoirs, but go ahead.
Yeah, Griffile, you're saying, like, I'm out here in the Midwest, and even this liberal stuff is coming out here.
Like, I mean, I'm from earlier from Kansas.
Like, we had Custer out here.
We had Hickok out here, and they're wanting to change street names out here because they're racist.
You know what I mean?
And in Colorado, they recently just took down the Kit Carson statue.
Right.
Oh, my God.
It's just crazy.
Well, you know, the Guardian newspaper recently came out with an article that said that statues aren't enough.
We need to take down antebellum architecture like Keith.
Forget it.
I mean, it's going to come down to our flesh and blood and our bones, and they're going to come in and kill us.
I mean, the whole white genocide.
Listen, Kevin, Matt, Keith, everything we have ever believed has been proven true beyond a shadow of a doubt.
But I want to defer to the caller.
You're on with Dr. McDonald.
We have about a minute before the next break.
Matt, I want to give you the opportunity to converse with Kevin.
Go Matt.
Okay.
Yeah, Kevin, I don't know because I went back to college recently and there's all that anti-white stuff in the classroom.
All my classmates were white.
I took a class on like the Civil War course, James that Keith had bashed the Southerners.
I took a class on the Holocaust.
I went to bash Germans.
I have German descent.
I'm not going to, I don't hate myself being German like all the students or I took an Indian class just anti-white stuff.
Yeah, it's just amazing.
I mean, it's a multi-wall now.
From kindergarten, really through college.
And, you know, they want to make mandated courses.
So, like in my university, and they're doing this now.
They're insisting on ethnic studies requirements.
All those courses are taught by actors.
And they all hate white people, basically.
And so you're not going to get out of Cal State Long Beach with any kind of degree without getting that message.
I don't care if you're chemical engineering or I worked in service a couple years ago.
I said, you know, they're not going to stop looking for a statue, guys.
They're going to go for everything.
And they didn't believe me.
Yeah, for everything.
And I think James is right.
This is the beginning of gulags and genocide.
I mean, I worry, you know, if Lincoln gets in, the Democrats get in, the sooner or later they will.
Yeah, I can start telling these stores ain't playing around with you.
Imagine being a college student.
Imagine being a college student in this day and age.
What trauma?
What psychological trauma?
We're going to talk about the psychology behind all of this with Dr. McDonald.
Matt, thank you for your support.
Thank you for your call.
We'll be back with Kevin McDonald right after this.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, and esteemed guest, Dr. Miss David, you have just heard from the news break what's going on in Mississippi.
And the reason that's happening is not because the majority of Mississippians do not agree with us.
They do agree with us.
It's because the left is allowed.
Well, they do control the microphones.
They are allowed to exert any sort of political pressure imaginable up to and including arson and terrorism to advance their aims.
And that's what you get.
The majority of Mississippians who would support the flag are not allowed to speak out without fear of losing their job.
So, of course, the results are predictable on what's going to happen there.
I mean, Kevin has covered so much of this tonight.
I mean, the whole thing, the numbers are skewed.
The numbers are skewed.
I mean, you're obviously only going to see one side of this thing.
We have no representation in the establishment media.
I mean, certainly we have the Occidental Observer.
We have this radio program.
But, I mean, comparatively speaking, we're not reaching the number of people they're reaching because we're shut out and our messages distorted.
You don't have organizations that stand up like the NACP equivalent for white people because those organizations would be shot down as racist.
They were.
We used to have a race.
Well, they would be disbanded.
They would be, you know, they would be put out of existence.
Now, you don't even have the police hardly anymore.
No, they're going to do away.
They're going to banish the police along with white people.
Well, but what Kevin was talking about earlier was just really interesting.
But this is how societies collapse.
Very slowly.
And then it happens very rapidly.
I mean, you mentioned this, Kevin.
Twitter is gagging the sitting president of the United States of America for vowing to restore law and order in the American Capitol.
But not the violent anarchists who are seizing control of the streets to establish lawless zones.
You're a West Coast guy.
What's happening up in Seattle?
I mean, could you have ever imagined it?
But on Twitter this week, President Trump said, there will never be an autonomous zone in Washington, D.C. as long as I'm your president.
If they try, they will be met with serious force.
Then Twitter said we've placed a public interest notice on this tweet for violating our policy against abusive behavior.
I mean, Kevin, can you imagine?
And it's not just that.
The official campaign ads for Donald Trump's reelection are being censored on Facebook, and they say that that meets Facebook's threshold for advocating of organized hate, whatever organized hate is.
Kevin, this is where we're at.
It's Orwellian.
Your response.
Or Wellion doesn't cover it.
Your response.
Or Welling, indeed.
It's very true.
And as you say, this is wall to wall.
The West Coast, you know, Portland and Seattle are Antifa hotbeds.
And basically, Antifa runs the city of Portland.
Police don't do anything to them.
They did trying to prevent an autonomous zone.
But, of course, in Seattle, it did not.
And, boy, I guess it's gradually disbanding.
The mayor's laid them to leave.
It's not easy because they're some hardcore folks there.
But I don't know.
They have, as you say, Facebook is clamping down like that on Trump.
At the same time, Facebook is under pressure from the ADL to remove hate speech, good quotes.
And same with Twitter.
So even though they had, I know that on Twitter, my tweets are not disseminated properly.
I know that my follower, my followers are curtailed.
A certain number, I never get any higher than that.
And you know, Kevin, Kevin, when I was a young man and you had the Mario Savio and the free speech movement in Berkeley, you know, they've gone full circle now.
It's suppress free speech movement that is taking charge of American public life.
That's right.
It's very different from the 1960s.
In the 60s, there were all these revolts, but the authorities did not really condone it.
I mean, they came in there and basically dealt with it.
Of course, in the aftermath, they did all these programs and they throw money at it.
And there were affirmative action, all these things that they tried to do for blacks for the last 50 years with no success.
I mean, that's the thing about that, that this cannot be solved.
The problem with the sort of underclass of black people.
I mean, there's a black middle class now.
Blacks, you know, can be whatever they want to be really in this country.
There is no, you know, no significant racism that holds them back from jobs and stuff like that.
But they can't benefit from these things.
There's a certain element in the population, a large percentage, unfortunately.
They congregate in these big cities in the ghettos, like in Minneapolis.
I mean, I saw the transformation in Minneapolis in the 1990s when blacks were coming out from Chicago because the welfare benefits were better there.
Everybody was talking about it.
And pretty soon you had crime, you had ghetto there.
And then, you know, the liberal Minnesota, they brought in some millions.
So, you know, it's.
Kevin, this is Keith.
Let me say this.
I saw something in the news this week that said that California's legislature was basically now saying that equal opportunity and equal access is against the law, that affirmative action for non-whites is the new equal opportunity or something of that sort.
I couldn't believe it.
They voted against using race-based additions and so on, affirmative action where your race counts positively for something.
In fact, certainly at least universities never pay attention to that.
They had found ways around it as best they could.
But now it's going to be official.
And so you're going to see explicit discrimination in favor of blacks and also Latinos because they're another underachieving group.
So yeah, I mean, the problem is that, you know, no matter what they do, one of the big things now is reparations.
This guy, Robert Johnson, is a black entrepreneur.
He runs the black entertainment network.
He's worth $600 million or something.
He wants $14 trillion reparations.
So each black person will get $350,000.
I mean, would that really change anything?
Because the fact is, it's not going to change the academic gap.
It's not going to make them have middle-class family values.
And so in five years after they buy all the consumer items that they will with those things, they'll be back to square.
That's just going to be the first course of a seven-course dinner.
Yeah, exactly.
And sooner or later, there'll be some other black criminal killed, you know, like George Floyd was, or like, you know, Michael Brown was, or Trayvon Martin, or whatever his name is.
And there'll be more rest.
And then there'll be more programs because they can never admit, they can never deal with black IQ.
They just can't do it.
That is just, that is off the table.
You can cite all the statistics you want about police involvement with blacks.
There's no racial pattern there.
And it doesn't matter.
This is a photo app.
It's a video.
And it has this emotional thing.
And the big media just runs with that.
And everybody is apologizing.
It's a big world panic.
That's the way.
But nothing's going to change that.
We're going to go through this again.
But obviously, the people on the left are really amping up the anti-white campaign.
Yeah, you know, but Kevin, the thing is, you know, Black Lives Matter, this terrorist action, you know, they call it peaceful protest.
You know, talk about Orwellian.
When peaceful means burning down cities and looting and arson.
But they've not actually mentioned when it will be enough.
I mean, at what point, you know, I have said in recent weeks on this show with our guests, they're not marching for racial equality under the law.
They've had that for decades.
They're not marching because of police brutality because statistically it's non-existence.
I mean, there are not white cops out there going after blacks.
There are a couple of instances where accidents have happened, and we certainly know of those instances because of the media's microphone, but it doesn't really exist in the real world.
So, you know, but they've never actually said when they will have achieved their aims.
When will they be sated?
When will, and God only knows.
The reason is because they will never be sated.
They will always come back.
You know, it's like, I forget the movie that you had with, you know, Edward G. Robinson as playing Little Rico.
And Humphrey Bogart said, what is it you want out of life?
And Rico thought for a moment.
He said, more.
Well, you know, Mississippi changing its flag, Rhode Island changing its name, disbanding police.
For God's sake, disbanding police.
But it's never enough.
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Right.
Listen, we're going to get to the psychology behind this.
We've been teasing it all night.
We're going to get to that with the psychologist himself, Dr. McDonnell, or at least the psychology professor, Dr. McDonnell, when we come back.
I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
The press has created a rigged system.
They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So, I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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That I would have a huge slumber party with all the girls there.
Play with me more often.
My mom's so busy with the board meeting.
To spend more time together as a family.
Do more out-of-the-house activities.
This is a tough one.
My parents, they do everything they love me.
If it wasn't for them, I would have a roof over my head.
They don't need to show it to me, though.
I just know they would.
Well, not yelling at me very much.
What do you wish?
What do you wish?
Raise my allowance.
To not argue together.
I'll have my dad be home more for dinner and stuff so that it could be even closer.
Family, isn't it about time?
Buy me an ice cream and kiss me to love me.
From the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Without a doubt, one of the fastest hours of a year, of the year of broadcasting is passing right now with Kevin McDonald.
So much to cover that we haven't got to.
Kevin, I want to talk to you about the psychological aspect of what's going on.
You were a professor of psychology for your career, and perhaps you can shed some light on that.
Keith and I were talking during the break.
I mean, it's no longer enough to be quiet.
You can't just be silent.
Now you are being punished for being silent.
So we see the ratcheting up of the preening and the over-the-top pronouncements of the support for the radical so-called Black Lives Matter agenda now.
Virtue signaling.
Yeah, Coach Mike Shyszzewski of Duke University's men basketball team, he wants you to know he's not just a proponent of the Black Lives Matter agenda.
He's a super proponent of it.
And then next week, there'll be another college coach that says, well, I'm not a racist like Mike Shyszewski.
He's only a super proponent.
I'm a super duper proponent.
So this is what's happening.
So, Kevin, I mean, this is – Is this Stockholm Syndrome, Kevin, or what is going on?
Well, Well, Kevin has written about psychological altruism.
And Kevin, this is the question.
Stockholm Syndrome, yes, let's keep that in mind.
But psychological, excuse me, pathological altruism.
You know, is it something that affects our genes or are only white people succumb to this or do other people do?
Our genes or our thinking?
Because as recently as just a few decades ago, white people still took their own side in an argument.
And I don't think if it was something that was going on genetically speaking that we would have devolved so much in just a couple of decades that that would be manifesting itself in the situation.
So it has to be something mental.
So let's talk about it.
The psychological aspect.
What is going on with these white people?
Well, you know, culture is very, very important.
That's why I wrote a book, The Culture Critique.
And in my most recent book, I talk about moral communities.
It's fundamental to individualism.
We are not so based on kinship as other societies.
That's really the secret success of the West.
We had this strong streak of individualism going way back into the Greeks and Romans.
And the problem with moral community is when you give up the media high ground and the academic high ground, then the messages that are telling you what is moral and what isn't come from these other people who are really hostile toward you.
And so you have this hostile elite running the media, giving all these messages and creating these moral panics.
And as I said, part of the word feed for culture critique is how the Jewish intellectuals and their hatred toward the West.
Well, that's ensconced in universities.
It's ensconced in the media.
It's gotten worse and worse.
So there is a genetic component, but the genetic component is a very broad, general thing that worked very well for us in terms of historically.
Individualism has worked for us.
We create these high trust communities and societies.
We tend to evaluate people on the basis of their talent, not their kinship status.
Our status in society is based on friendships and trust rather than who you're related to.
If you go to Africa, it's different.
If you go to the Middle East, it's different.
So that's our strength, but it's also our weakness.
Once you give up the high ground in the media and the academic world, they are telling you now what is moral and what isn't.
So what we see, what you say, you have this sort of competitive virtue signal.
I'm more moral than you are.
And it never ends.
And so they're always To one up each other by pledging allegiance to this moral regime that we have.
And that's the tough thing that it is so hard to crack, really, that we have to say that our interests are moral.
And what is being done to us is radically immoral.
But, you know, try to get messages out.
We don't control the New York Times.
We don't control the big networks or anything.
Well, what changed, Kevin?
This is Keith Alexander.
After World War II, Jewish power and influence was congratulating white Gentiles from America.
We were the greatest generation.
We had defeated the great threat to Judaism of Hitler and whatnot.
But now, amazingly, they've turned on the white Gentiles.
Yeah, well, I think that what Jewish analysts decided, you know, really the Frankfurt School, I think, was instrumental in this.
They had a class-based theory that it was classical Marxism based on working class people unite and abolition and all that stuff.
But then they saw the working class in Germany voted for Hitler.
And so they really had the idea that it's really all about race, that you can't, that if you have a homogeneous white society, that will ultimately turn against the Jews.
Because they've seen it so many times.
You think about St. Louis, what was happening there was at least really in part, in large part, was demands from the people to get rid of the Jews because of the money lending and everything.
So the point is that Jewish intellectuals understand that.
And so the way that they wanted to deal with that was to create diversity, to bring in other groups that they could ally with.
And Jews have made all kinds of efforts to ally with all these other ethnic groups.
The command, of course, blacks first and foremost, beginning with the NAACP, which is a Jewish organization, really until probably the 1960s or so.
But that has been their strategy.
That's why immigration has been so important to them.
The mainstream Jewish community is gung-hole for non-white immigration, because that's how you create a society that can't rise up in a homogeneous way as they did in Germany in the 1930s.
And it has happened many other times in European history and other areas, too.
But if you have all these other groups, and the problem is that part of the problem, too, is that when these groups come in, isn't it amazing how quickly these immigrants get on the idea that white people are bad?
Well, that's the point I was going to make.
They are after, you know, they get us in there and then they attack white people.
They become, it's like I've said, in any left-wing movement, the foot soldiers might be black, brown, yellow, homosexuals, women, but the generals are always Jews.
All right, Kevin, how psychologically do, all right.
What do you think differentiates people like us from the majority of white people who believe like us?
And I still believe fundamentally a majority of whites do.
What gives us the ability to speak out or the courage or the intelligence?
Why can we do what so many whites refuse to do?
And how psychologically can whites regain the conditioning needed to want to survive and not cheer their own demise as some whites are doing?
Yeah, so many whites are.
And of course, the system is rigged against this.
I mean, if you want a career, if you want payment fortune in today's society, you're going to have to sign on to this.
And there have been so many examples of people who have suffered greatly from that.
So part of it is incentive, is really material rewards incentivization.
But yes, some of us are more ethnocentric.
Some of us are, even though we tend not to be as ethnocentric as other people, some of us are more ethnocentric than others.
And I think Southerners, white southerners have a stronger sense, historical sense, going back to the Civil War and everything, Reconstruction, and the long history in America that they have gotten a bad deal.
And they feel more of a sense of grievance and more of a sense of being coming together.
But yeah, I mean, most, again, culture makes a difference.
For so many whites, they've been programmed in school, and it's getting worse.
Well, they don't call it cultural Marxism for nothing, do they?
No, it's not.
I mean, and culture is important.
I talk a lot about the psychological mechanisms involved in various places, but included my reach book to individuals in the Russian liberal tradition because, you know, culture is so important.
We have these mechanisms that are able to inhibit our natural impulses.
And so many of us want to basically live our lives and do what we want to do.
And, you know, it's cost all of us, people who are known by their real name and everything.
I don't know what personal costs you've had, but I know a lot of people, myself, a lot of cost to this.
And so, yeah, you have to sort of decide, you know.
Yeah, well, you know what?
I'll tell you, Kevin, I mean, I'm sure you can imagine because we're friends, but death before dishonor, I would rather be dead than to betray my convictions.
I would rather be dead than dishonor my ancestors.
And you know what?
I don't know what makes me unique in that.
And I don't know why I can come to those conclusions and other whites don't.
I just don't understand it.
I don't understand why everybody doesn't believe like that.
Yeah, all psychological traits are heritable to some extent.
So you may have more proclivity to that.
And, you know, you may come from a long line of people that really valued family, had great family relationships and valued your ancestors.
And so that's part of a tradition.
And so all these things come together.
And you're in the South where those things are still alive, much more than in the North.
And I think in the book, I've really emphasized the Yankees, the Puritan strand as being particularly individualistic, particularly, I think, negative effects on America and American culture.
These are the people that started the Civil War in the whole business.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've got to be less individualistic to an extent and certainly more communitarian.
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