May 30, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
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Hello, everybody.
I'm Nick Richard, I'm former leader of the British National Party, member of the European Parliament, nowadays an independent nationalist analyst and activist.
I'm very pleased to join you all today.
Have we got ESA yet, James?
Yes, I am here, Nick.
Sorry about that.
Unexpected technical difficulties right at the top of the show.
I don't know if that happened even after all of these years, but it is great to have you back, my friend, tonight, this Saturday evening, May the 30th.
This is the CPC with James Edwards and Keith Alexander, who will be joining us shortly.
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And for that, Nick is the hero to us and so many around the world.
Nick, it is great to have you back tonight.
Thank you, James.
Great to be here.
Okay, well, let's get started.
We had you on back in March for our special series, The March Around the World.
You were representing the United Kingdom, and we didn't quite get to everything.
And we had made an appointment, in fact, immediately after the show to have you back.
It's more order, and that time is now.
We want to focus specifically on so-called climate change and the global response to COVID-19.
When you were on that first or second week of March, the whole coronavirus situation was just really beginning to take shape.
Obviously, now we can see things much more clearly.
What do you make of it, Nick?
Yeah, well, as you say, back in March, it was possible to read this as a thing of genuine health concern.
I think things were very unclear.
It's been very clear now for many weeks that, in fact, this is a minor, serious-ish health issue, which is absolutely no reason or justification to destroy the economy of the entire Western world and the social structures that go with it, which as we now see is what is being done.
And it's very interesting.
You start this by talking about climate change.
Climate change is one of the things, of course, which has absolutely dropped off the news, or rather, allegations about climate change have absolutely dropped off the news in the wake of the coronavirus thing.
But the more you look at it, the more you can see that the same agenda of the deep greens and the far left who are using the climate change lie as an excuse to meddle in our society and dismantle the normal economy, they're now using the coronavirus crisis in exactly the same way, and it's every bit as bogus.
Okay, now, do you have any idea why they would have transitioned from one faux risk to humanity to the other in the fashion that they did?
Yeah, I think, well, partly because simply because these people are opportunists.
We're not dealing with something monolithic here.
There's all sorts of different groups pushing and jockeying for their own self-interest and the advancement of their own set of ideas.
So the deep greens may not have been at the very center of this to start with, but they're certainly in there now pushing and shoving and trying to exploit it.
So I think it's partly that.
Then there's also the fact that I believe that I think they've realized that they pushed the climate change thing pretty much as far as they could.
People were not responding and probably themselves realizing that the more to minimum in the sun, it's going to start getting so much colder for sufficient length of time, even if the man-made climate change thing was true, which I don't believe.
But in the background, the more to minimum the sun going into its own sort of lockdown for some years is going to make that story unpushable.
So I think they simply switched to one which is much more immediate.
Let's face it, with the climate change thing, they were pressing the guilt button.
If you go flying, you're going to drown a polar bear.
And that might work for 15-year-old girls, but with everybody else, well, actually, they look around, there's more polar bears than ever.
And in any case, they're not that fast.
The polar bear's plight isn't that immediate.
It's easy to forget about when you want to jet off to Florida or Spain, you know, to get some decent weather.
Whereas this thing being a health issue, if it were true, it affects everybody.
And where the hysteria can be made to infect people, it becomes true and real and immediate to them.
So it's a much more powerful, both, well, stick and carrot, but particularly a stick to use to push the herd in the direction that they want.
That is a fantastic answer.
I think it's a pressure answer.
You actually touched on something that I mentioned just in passing last week.
And I'm wondering, we've got a full hour with you.
We've got plenty of time to pursue this train of thought and really ferret out all of the interesting points.
But I had, I mentioned last week on the program that back in January, I'd had lunch with a professor of anthropology and psychiatry at Veterbilt University, Dr. Virginia Abernathy, who's been a longtime friend of ours.
But I was visiting her at her home, and we just got on the topic of so-called climate change.
And this isn't her area of expertise, but she educated me about the sunspots.
And as the lockdown, that you just mentioned, that the sunspots are really beginning to dissipate and to wane.
And we're going to be entering into actually a period of global cooling.
And I think what you just said with regard to if that is in fact what's about to happen, and we should be right on the cusp of it based upon the information she gave me and the research that she provided to me, that really will begin to really neuter the entire climate change narrative.
What do you know about the so-called lockdown of the sun and the sunspots and what may be coming with regards to heat and weather?
I don't know a lot.
It's not really my field.
Having been into history when I first started university, I can sort of go back in deep dark memory to Maude Minimum being part of the factor in the Little Ice Age that struck Britain when people will, even Americans, cultured Americans, I know many of you are, especially in the South, will be familiar with the old master's paintings of Dutch Canal Frozen Solid and ice fairs on the River Thames and such like.
So late medieval times, early modern times, the Maude Minimum, that's where the name was taken from because it was Mr. Maundo who discovered it.
And it's a natural cycle of the sun.
And the sun is now entering that.
And it seems to be a particularly deep one.
That is the beginning and the end of my knowledge.
I'm not an astrophysicist.
Please move on.
You know, I'll tell you what, it's probably more than most people realize.
It's certainly more than I realized when I had lunch with that dear lady back in January.
It's interesting information, fascinating stuff for people to look into.
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This is our 16th year now.
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And do you know what happened in that first segment of tonight's show?
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Well, anyway, Nick, back to the how, rather how the elites to powers that be maybe using the so-called climate change crisis and now the COVID-19 crisis to further their mechanisms and their aims.
A quick sidebar here on this, and then I want to get into the social, the potential social and economic impacts of how the world governments at large and the media, of course, have responded to COVID.
But more than any other issue, and I was talking about this with Sam Dixon on the program last week.
He pretty much sees the COVID thing as you and I do.
And I was asking Sam, and I'll ask you the same question.
There has been sort of a, I guess, a schism in our ranks.
Normally, most people who are out front and sort of have some sort of a profile in our cause as a spokesman or a commentator or whatever, generally pull in the same direction on the big issues.
But there has been a pretty widespread rift in people who are really buying the narrative, people that we regularly feature on this program, even who are actually going to people like Rachel Maddow and the establishment corrupt news to solidify and fortify their position on coronavirus.
I mean, has that caught you a little bit at a loss, Nick?
Well, I haven't seen it to such a scale in the UK, partly because the nationalist patriotic, whatever you want to call it, movement is so far split off in its own little ghetto that there's no prospect of people sort of getting into something approaching the mainstream anyway.
What I will say, though, is that it's been very interesting that people in the UK, such as Nigel Farage, who I know a lot of Americans think a lot of and so on, for speaking out against Europe, fair enough.
But I've always regarded him as an establishment safety valve.
That's how he's operated.
He's only been purely a one-trick pony on the EU.
So he's always marked himself as a defender of the little man against big government and so on.
And that's part of the reason he's against the European Union.
But in this, he's been absolutely silent.
And had he spoken out or were he to speak out against this coronavirus lockdown fast, he would become immensely popular, very, very powerful, and do a great amount of good.
So in the case of him, I've been thinking, well, this to me confirms me in what I've always thought, that basically he's a tool of far more powerful forces.
And in this, they have told him to shut up.
I don't know in America specifically who you're talking about, but certainly I would say that if ever there was a time when the deep state would activate people of theirs, voices of theirs, mouthpieces of theirs within the patriotic movement in order to bring division and to get some degree of acceptance of this monstrous assault on all our liberties, now is the time they would do it.
Because once this is over, we're going to be so locked down permanently in terms of the destruction of our freedom of speech, the power to act and so on, that they won't need these people within the movement anymore because we will simply be under naked tyranny.
So I think you have to look at some people who are doing the unexpected and think, ah, well, maybe you were not on our side in the first place, merely play acting because other people didn't pay you to do so.
Well, in any event, you're right.
If people will swallow this, I was skeptical from Jump Street on this issue.
And I am certainly capable of being wrong on things as any human being is.
And when I am wrong, I'd like to think that I have the wherewithal to admit that.
But as soon as this started to really become a force in the media, and you started seeing the shutdowns and the cancellations and the closing of businesses and all, I was instantly skeptical.
But, you know, I said, let's take a look.
Let's see.
But my gut is normally a pretty good barometer.
My gut normally leads me in the right direction.
And I have just not been impressed over the subsequent months with the potency of this particular illness.
I mean, assuming that there is, you know, something out there, I think it's just another, you know, it's another respiratory illness, not unlike many others that are out there.
It could be deadly.
I think we all agree with that.
I mean, it could kill some people.
I mean, presumably it has.
I think the numbers may be inflated.
But all that being the case, the point is, people with very little, I mean, we're not talking about contracting the bubonic plague and, you know, you're gone within a few days or weeks.
I mean, people have willingly and really overzealously, I mean, to the point where it's become a religious like fervor, where if you're not wearing the mask and social distancing and doing contactless delivery on your pizza, that they're looking at you sideways and they actually get very angry.
So with the people having gone that far that quick with so little to really justify it, as you say, Nick, what will be the social and economic impacts going forward, no matter how this plays out?
Well, they're clearly horrendous.
I was looking today, they're talking about in Britain the schools going back, and especially I've got grandchildren to you to go back to school and looking at what they're being, the parents are being told about the social isolation that children of four and five are going to be put through in school.
And this thing is so unnatural that it is clearly child abuse.
And it will have huge psychological effects.
So in the short term, we've already seen a huge increase in suicides as an example.
And not surprising, when you take people away from their human contact, when you tell them that their jobs, that their work, into which they probably put their life savings and their heart and soul, are non-essential and clearly being sacrificed on the altar of something else, you're going to get suicides.
So you've got suicides and economic destruction going on right now.
In the medium term, we can see that the, certainly in Britain at present, I think in many countries in the West, the state is still paying firms to pay their workers while they're not working.
The minute that stops, then the layoffs are going to be going on by the million.
So then we'll have the pain and the massive deaths and disruption associated with that sort of long-lasting austerity.
And then further down the line, how long before this scale of child abuse in children of four or five, how long before the impact of that actually comes out into society?
And I'd suggest it'll be 15, 20, 25, 30 years.
This thing will, however we get out of it in the end, what the elites have already done for one reason or another has already utterly changed and brutally damaged our society.
Former White House chief of staff here in the United States, Mick Mulvaney, said this week that he believes the United States has, quote, overreacted a little bit, end quote, to the coronavirus.
I mean, you think?
But what I'm saying, the reason I bring that up is, and of course, he's very much an outlier with regard to our government structure and certainly the media.
But even if, even if they all said, you know what, guys, we got this wrong.
Sorry, our bad.
Everybody go back to business as usual.
The people have become such conformists and they are so weak.
And I think especially our people in this regard, I don't think it could happen.
I don't see it happening.
I mean, it would at least take quite a while.
But of course, they're not going to do that anyway.
I mean, they very much want these people cowed.
And if they will fall for this, they will fall for something.
This may be a beta test.
I don't know.
I can't tell you exactly what their end game is.
But our people haven't passed the test.
No.
No, I think whatever the end game is, it's inevitable because they've taken a moderately unpleasant respiratory disease and shoved it back on the back foot with massive social distancing.
There is no herd immunity built up.
It makes it absolutely inevitable that there will be a second wave, if not very shortly, certainly in the autumn, and panics with it as well.
So we'll be into another lockdown, which will, I think, finish the process off.
Whatever the process is going to be, we're not really going to see until the autumn how bad it is.
I have got a few follow-up questions for our good friend, former member of European Parliament, Nick Griffin, calling in tonight from the UK.
We're going to get to the bottom of what's going on over there in the UK, specifically in how his people and his nation have been responding to this and what his government has been doing.
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Well, you just heard that bottom-of-the-hour news break, and that's been something I've been joking about consistently over the last few months with the coronavirus absolutely dominating the headlines across the world and through all the different platforms that it had really taken away taken the oxygen out of the room for white people bad headlines.
And boy, with this thing starting to peter a little bit, not the effects of it, as we're talking about with Nick, but there's only so many coronavirus stories you can read about before people's eyes begin to glaze over.
These other stories have come back with the vengeance in the last couple of days.
Of course, the situation with the McMichaels in Georgia, which we've been talking about quite a bit.
But just this week, the situation that you just heard about in Minnesota, the narrative there, the way the media is spinning that, the situation with the woman in Central Park having a disagreement with a black man in public.
She was instantly fired from her job.
We will be touching on all of these issues in the second and third hour.
We now have Keith Alexander mic'd up after that little snafu at the very top.
We have both mics.
Keith is now at the party with us as well.
Keith, I know you've been listening to this riveting conversation with Nick Griffin, and you have a question.
Nick.
Yeah.
Hello, Keith.
As an observer of the international scene and what's happening in England regarding COVID, it would seem that the English populace is a little more, what would you call it, docile and establishment-oriented than the Americans.
Americans are having armed protests now, for example, at some state legislatures and at state capitals.
Is there anything like that in the offing in England?
And if so, what?
And if not, why not?
Well, I'm afraid the answer is no.
And you say the British appear to be a little bit more docile.
That's the unstatement of the week.
The British are being pathetic about this.
It's not just in America where people are standing up.
There's major clashes, thousands of people out on the streets of a dozen major German cities and clashes with the riot police and so on.
There's big demonstrations going on in Spain against it.
The yellow vests are back out on the streets in France.
In many countries, people are standing up for this.
There's a spectacular bit of footage the other day of a big gang of actually Dutch lads, not immigrants, Dutch lads on a beach in Holland who were approached by a group of policemen telling them they had to go home and all the rest of it.
And it ended up the police literally fleeing, if not for their lives, at least for their dignity.
So a lot of people are resisting this and the British are being very feeble.
As to why, well, we need a whole program about what happened to the British, I'm afraid.
But I would say, let's look at what the position is in Britain.
Roughly speaking, I would say about a third of the population really believe this nonsense to one extent or another.
They're the ones wearing masks who get very nervous or even quite aggressive if you get in their space in a shop and so on.
But they're one third and that's shrinking.
One third are sullenly hostile to it.
People aren't fooled.
You know, they know one third know this is wrong and they don't like it.
And then one third know it's not wrong, but they don't understand, no, it's not right, but they don't understand what's going on.
So they sort of one third are going along with it, one third are hostile, one third is astounded and sitting with their jaws slack wondering what on earth all this is because something's not right.
That's where we are at present.
That could change very easily, I would say.
A thing that has astounded me actually is how well-behaved and apathetic our minority populations have been.
The Muslims have gone through a complete lockdown during their Ramadan and Eid festivals.
The urban blacks have apparently basically behaved themselves.
You know, really quite astounding.
I suspect it's something that, honestly, I think it's something they're putting in the water because I used to live in black areas of London in the late 1970s, early 80s and so on.
And those people would riot and cause trouble at the slightest opportunity, the slightest excuse.
And now they're being genuinely pressured to appalling treatment.
You know, truly, a lot of these people live in flats with their kids and so on.
And they're locked up in these apartments 23 hours a day.
And they're accepting it just like the rest.
So I think it's something in the water.
Whatever it is, the British have been very disappointing this time around.
Well, Nick, this is Keith again.
Let me just say this.
In America, the minority population, which is our euphemism for what you call, you know, the blacks and whatnot, they have taken to this like a duck to water.
They are all decked out in their masks.
They give you a dirty look if you don't have one.
They're scared to death of this because it apparently is opportunistic.
And if you have health problems, you're more likely to be carried away with it.
Although even then, it's not that deadly.
But, you know, black people have poor impulse control.
We said all the time here.
That's why you have obesity.
That's why you have criminality.
And, you know, more of a percentage with them than with the native-born white population.
And because of that, they have diabetes, they have high blood pressure, they have to have kidney failure and have to have dialysis treatment, things like this.
And they feel like they're more at risk.
And they have really embraced the lockdown.
Plus, they like the fact that they're getting paid not to work.
But I don't know what is, but there's a big divide between you have liberal whites and the minority population on one hand, and then probably 50% of the white population that thinks it's a tempest in the teapot.
Yeah.
Well, it seems like it's, you know, I do believe it's a tempest in the teapot.
And that's what our feeling right here.
Again, like you said, the proof of the pudding will be in the fall when a second wave either comes or doesn't come.
Well, and whether it comes or not, I guess we'll just have to take their word for it.
But Nick, when you appeared back in March, I think we touched on this very briefly because we had quite a few emails come in for you that I have saved since that time.
And the emails that I am selecting are specifically related to coronavirus, the reaction to it.
Again, this was back in March, but we'll update it for today there in the UK.
So let me just pick this out of the bag, and I'd like to cover as many of these as we can in the time that we have remaining.
Well, this is along the lines of what we're just talking about.
Has there been a marked change in the British character from the classic stip upper lip of World War II to one of feminine pearl clutching and public displays of emotion with regards to what we're seeing now here with the coronavirus?
Yeah, the answer to that is yes, undoubtedly.
There's been a huge cultural change and, of course, a genetic change.
You know, probably a full one-third of the people in this country now are not original native Brits.
And even though many of them, in fact, are relatively recently or recently arrived Europeans, not just third world minorities, they don't behave in the same way that the British used to.
And the presence and the presence of so many different minorities has broken up the community of people.
So that if you went back even perhaps 30, 40 years, the average man in particular probably got most of his values and his news in the local pub from the local community.
And the average woman probably got a lot of them from talking to people in the shops and so on.
And now people get their values and their news from watching television.
And obviously that means their values are coming not from people like them, not from the grassroots, but whatever the people who control the television want them to believe.
And it really has hit home.
And the people present in Britain are in no fit state to stand up to lockdown tyranny, whether it was intended as a tyranny to start with, or whether simply owing to various, just the ways things went, there's now the opportunity for different power elites to exploit this thing, whichever the reason is, the British people aren't in a position at the moment to stand up to it.
Well, that's much the same as it is in America with the television and the entertainment media and news media controlling public opinion.
And that begs the question, who is in charge of British television, entertainment, and news media?
At the top level, we've got the same phenomenon of heavily Zionist or Talmudist influence and ownership.
In the middle level downwards, you've got the 68-generation leftists now coming to the end of their tenure, but they're in the higher levels of management.
And below them, the ones doing the donkey work, the reporting, all the rest of it, you're dealing with people who went to universities and journalism schools run by the 68 leftists.
So they're even further divorced from reality than the Boys and Girls of 68 were.
So Jews, boomers, and millennials then.
I suppose so, yes.
And boomers are millennials of a specific sort, very self-selected and completely cut off from ordinary people in terms of their education, where they live and how they live and what they do.
There's a great gulf between the two.
Right.
And of course, as you said, of a certain sort, Keith himself would be a boomer.
I would be at the tail end of Generation X turning 40 this summer.
And, you know, I guess from any era, if you have the right-thinking people in, you know, it just becomes a non-issue with regard to where they were born.
Unfortunately, across the board, throughout generational timeframes, we have the wrong people in.
We have people who've succumbed to brainwashing.
Okay, Nick Griffin, our good friend, the former member of European Parliament, lifelong advocate for our people.
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They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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All right, everybody.
We want to thank Nick Griffin again for staying up till midnight over there in the UK to be with us again.
Always a highlight.
I think the interview we did with Nick.
No, I don't think I know.
In my personal opinion, the interview we did with Nick was really one of the top hours we've had all year, if not the.
And it's always great to have him back.
We really appreciate his work and his contributions.
Nick, I've got four more questions.
And it's sort of a hodgepodge, but I want to try to get to as many of the questions we got from listeners of the last interview as we can.
And then I want you to write the prescription on what we should be doing as we move forward.
Now, obviously, you would need a great deal of people to follow a game plan to really affect any positive change.
But there are things we can do in our daily lives to help shepherd our family through that.
And we'll get to that at the very end.
But first, back to the mailbag.
How is the British left using this corona scam demic vis-a-vis immigration?
And that's a good question.
I mean, on the front end, it looks like this is suppressed immigration, at least for a moment, here in America.
Is there any back door that they're using to further promote non-white immigration to Britain?
Or is it the same as it is here?
Well, as everywhere, as all issues, it's knocked immigration off the headlines to a large degree.
But there is a very recent phenomenon now of immigrants coming across the English Channel, which is 22 miles of water between France and the White Cliffs of Dover, in small boats.
And although the British government's always said, oh, we're going to defend our borders, et cetera, et cetera, they send the Navy and the Coast Guard out and they pick them out of the sinking boats and they escort them in and they bring them here.
So that is going on, but it's not huge numbers.
It's some hundreds.
It's concerning that in the grand scheme of things, when you've already transformed the population such that people like me and you are minorities in London and Birmingham, our second city and so on, as well as our capital, a few more hundred makes no difference.
It's just a symbolic thing.
I would say how the left is shaping up to use coronavirus.
They're trying to say that this has caused so much damage to the economy that we're going to have to basically rebuild it.
So this means bringing more immigrants in.
How on earth they're going to sell that to people when we've got 30, 40, 50% unemployment, I do not know.
But, you know, it's said that God loves a trial.
I suspect he doesn't love this lot.
Well, you touched on something that, of course, we have been mentioning for quite a while, but haven't specifically touched on tonight, is the unemployment.
I mean, my God, tens of millions of Americans, same in the UK and elsewhere, out of work and out of work from jobs that there is no guarantee they're going to be coming back.
That's a whole nother discussion.
We could spend an hour just on the economic ramifications there and what happens to these people.
That truly is catastrophic.
And the biggest tragedy that has come from all of this, bar none.
But with regard to Brexit, a couple of questions I'll meld together into one.
Has the EU's failure to respond to Corona in an effective way strengthened the argument for Brexit in the British mind and perhaps in other nations in Europe?
And will Brexit, whether it is real or in name only, be delayed by Corona?
How has Corona played into Brexit, I guess, to sum it up?
I think thus far it hasn't done.
The two are regarded as separate, and in effect they are separate.
The EU's response has been no better, no worse, no different from the British government's response.
If the British government had got it right and the EU had got it wrong, it would push things further against the EU.
If the British government had got it wrong, which they have, if the EU had got it right, which they haven't, then perhaps that might push people thinking, well, the EU wasn't so bad after all.
But they both done badly and it's sort of separate.
So I don't think it'll have much effect.
The most likely effect, well, there's two.
It could be one or either way.
Either because all the governments concerned have been so tied up with the corona issue, whether it's panicking about it, trying to deal with it or trying to exploit it, doesn't matter.
They've been very tied up with it.
They take an eye off the ball.
The negotiations have all gone to pieces.
So it increases the chance of a no-deal Brexit.
Britain just crashes out and everyone carries on, goes off in their own directions.
So that's sort of increasing the chances of a real Brexit happening.
On the other hand, the Johnson government has so mishandled this coronavirus chaos and has got the potential to go even more terribly wrong for them.
We might end up with this government being destabilized and somehow or other broken.
And in that case, we'll end up with a Labour, Liberal Democrat, ultra-leftist Tory, some sort of coalition.
And every single person in that government, of course, would be a remainer and wanting to undo Brexit.
So there's just a faint possibility that they could seize, this isn't why this thing was created, obviously, but they could seize that opportunity and try to reverse Brexit, knowing, in fact, that they can do what they damn well want, because they can now come up with some kind of lockdown, even if they're saying, we're now not doing a lockdown for health reasons.
We're doing a lockdown to avoid chaos on the streets.
And whether you like it or not, you're locked down, and the people are now in the habit of being locked down.
So that could mean we end up with Brexit being overthrown, which will be the final death of any pretense of democracy in Britain.
But if they get in the position to do it, they can do it.
And I think they'll get away with it, at least in the short term.
Goes back to what we said earlier in the hour.
If something this meek and mild could get the vast majority of all people, including our people, to cow and to stay in their homes and give up their jobs, well, that has to be very encouraging for the overlords.
One quick question, and then I want to get to solutions and things we can do in our daily lives to better our families and better our positions and standings as this thing continues to carry on.
But the question is, the National Health Service is the publicly funded healthcare system in England.
And the question is, can we ever expect to see an honest appraisal of the NHS's response to the crisis, including an analysis of how many deaths were wrongly attributed to Corona?
Or were we caused or were caused rather by hospital contracted infections, medical malpractice, TB by third world staff, etc.
I think that an analysis like that could only come if it was being organized by people who actually wanted to get to the bottom of the truth.
And the role of the health service is in fact been very minor in this.
They've simply done what they've been told by the administrators who've been told what they've done to the government.
And if what's gone wrong in the health service were to come out, the trail would have to be followed back to government, probably back to the World Health Organization.
There's all sorts of things which are very powerful people don't want to come out.
So I think we'll get a fudge.
We'll get little bits here and there, for instance, where they put people suffering from COVID out of hospitals and into nursing homes full of very elderly, very frail people.
You might get the occasional legal action and even pay out a manslaughter in those regards.
But generally, I think it'll be taken piecemeal.
And the powers that be will do everything they can and will probably succeed in burying.
I don't think we'll ever get a true analysis of just how bad, wicked, and dishonest this thing was.
I hope I'm wrong, but I fear I'm not.
Nick, we have three minutes remaining.
Another hour with you.
Gone by far too quickly, and i'd like to ask you this uh, for everyone listening, what would your advice to them be as we continue to uh, to hold on, uh during this ride and, of course, any contact information, how people can support you and your work.
Okay well, one understand this is going to get really bad.
It's only just started economically.
Think of it like this, they're trying to retrofit in in undoing a highly complex economy and making it something far more simple, and combine economy.
They're trying to retrofit a fifth generation jet fighter while it's flying and turn it back to a first generation one, and that ain't going to go well at all.
So this is going to get really bad.
So understand that and do everything you can, because people who survive or get through better through these, these things, aren't the people who've got it perfect.
They're the people who've done a bit better than somebody else.
So do what you can to be self-sufficient.
Uh, do what you can to build in real life groups, not on the internet.
I hope people now begin to see how, uh you're organizing some kind of resistance and meta political, cultural fight back on the internet, when the enemies control it and can switch it off and censor it whenever they want is absolutely futile in the times that are coming.
You need people close to you, friendly to you, in real life to help out to do that and, if you've got school-age children, grandchildren or whatever, get into homeschooling because um, the schooling which they're going to be getting under this new lockdown system is we as we said right at the start horrific child abuse and it's unnecessary.
And the benefits of getting kids properly schooled instead of throwing them into the, the liberal brainwashing machine are, I hope you know, really obvious to everybody.
That's where people should be going.
Finally, in terms of protest, the big picture stuff, I think the Americans have got it right.
The Americans are standing up.
I do think that turning up the guns to something where there's not a gunfight going on uh, and then in fact, being disarmed by the police, is absolutely the wrong thing to do.
I do think that truckers and farmers have enormous power to uh influence what happened in cities.
To make it clear, what needs to be made clear is that the state, whether it's the local level or nationally, the state cannot govern without consent and the people do not give consent to this lockdown, to this, which is a prison term, of course, we do not give consent to being regarded as prisoners.
We do not give consent to the power grab and we will fight it in intelligent, sensible ways, which all about whether or not we are going to be governed by them or whether they can govern without our consent, and I believe we have to make it clear to them that they cannot and will not.
Nick Griffin, thank you for your service uh, to our calls to our people For being selfless.
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Nick, thank you.
Godspeed, brother.
We will talk to you again soon, I hope.
I look forward to it, James.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And good night.
Thank you so much.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with the second hour.