March 14, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Political Cesspool radio program.
I'm your host, James Edwards, this Saturday evening, March the 14th, as our world tour, our special four-week series, continues this evening.
Joined in the studio this evening by Keith Alexander, as always.
And we're back at full strength last week after I was sidelined by the flu.
And what a fantastic night it will be, as it always is, when we have our good friend, Nick Griffin, former member of European Parliament, is with us live from the United Kingdom tonight as we continue to explore and discover and learn how our kinsmen are faring throughout the West.
That is the purpose of this four-week special series.
We made stops in Australia and Canada last week tonight.
We're going to go to the UK with Nick and then later to Sweden, Croatia next week and other ports of calls before we hit April.
But first, to our distinguished and esteemed guest, Nick Griffin, thank you for joining us tonight.
How are you doing this evening?
James and Keith, thank you very much.
I'm doing very well indeed.
Well, we appreciate you literally burning the midnight oil for the benefit of our audience.
And again, every time you've been on this show, it has always been a riveting conversation.
So let's get started here, I guess, with Brexit.
So we all remember four years ago, the hope and the excitement we felt, even over here as Americans, as we watched what was going on as it all played out.
How did it play out?
Well, for many years, before the referendum and after it, most other British nationalists were convinced that it simply wouldn't happen, that the political elite in Britain would override the wishes of the majority of the British people, and somehow they'd steal the Brexit from us.
And then while everyone else was still saying that was the case, I began to look really carefully at this and concluded that there'd been a change in the nature of the British deep state, really.
And although the majority of it was still in favor of the European project, there was an element of it which was actually closer by far to the American deep state, which although the American deep state, the CIA in particular, was one of the main factors in creating and promoting the European Union, that was in the days of the Soviet Union, and they wanted this European thing as a counterbalance to that.
Then when the Soviet Union fell, that need fell away.
For a few years, the American Deep State was fundamentally agnostic to the European Union.
And then from about, say, 2007, 2008, there was increasing hostility as they realized that really the European Union was actually Germany running the rest of Europe and that Germany was increasingly cozying up to, particularly Russia, to a degree, China.
And they set about wanting to disrupt that and using Britain to disrupt it.
So using that analysis, I was telling people about a year before the sort of final really end of it.
Now, I think we will get our Brexit, but it won't be the sort of Brexit that we voted for and wanted, which is really for our country to become independent again.
And in particular, above anything else, to stop and reverse immigration.
We're going to get a Brexit, which is basically turns Britain into the 51st state of America.
Now, I love America and the American people, but as a world force, the American deep state and political and business elite, and especially the Federal Reserve Bank, is the most pernicious and evil thing there's ever been.
So, I'm still very glad that we're free and we are going to get free of the little Brussels empire.
But there's a degree of frying pan into fire because we're not becoming an independent British state.
We're simply going to be run by a section of the British elite, which instead of being beholden completely to Brussels, is instead beholden to the most evil powers in the United States, not the United States, if the powers are running in the United States.
So, good and bad, we're free, but we haven't got what we voted for.
Nick, this is Keith Alexander.
Hello, Keith.
Let me ask you: Is now that Brexit has become a reality, is it economically speaking as bad as the left said it was going to be, or is it as good as the right said it was going to be, or does it fall somewhere in the middle?
Describe that for us.
It's nothing like what the Liberals were saying, the Europhiles, were basically that for the moment, first of all, if we voted to leave, then the sky would fall, and of course, it didn't.
And then they were saying, Well, if you vote in the general election to confirm that, the sky will fall even more, and of course, it hasn't.
And until the coronavirus thing, I'm sure we'll talk about that later, until that hit, it was very clear actually that whatever the long-term political and social impacts of Brexit were going to be, that actually, in economic terms, breaking away from the internationalist, socialist, shockingly meddlesome approach of Brussels was going to do Britain a lot of good.
So, no, it certainly hasn't been an economic disaster.
We were doing all right in that regard.
It was going to become an element where the neoliberal, neoconservative aspect of global capitalism is going to rip and transform Britain, not for the benefit of the British people, but economically, it's even that is probably better than being ruled by that thing in Brussels.
No, certainly it was doing okay.
All Brexit, all the votes now, all opportunities have completely changed because of the COVID thing.
We simply don't know what's going to happen now.
Well, do you see it being a tonic to the English economy or not?
Sorry, was what?
Do you see Brexit being a tonic economically, a tonic T-O-N-I-C to yes, overall, certainly?
And these, uh, if you let capitalism rip without any kind of restrictions, then it does all sorts of long-term damage, particularly socially, culturally, and so on.
But economically, it's the most efficient way of running the show.
It's often the most efficient way of eating up old traditions, of eating up resources, of damaging things in the long run.
But in purely economic terms, I've no doubt that if the choice was between the Boris Johnson government and Brexit and Jeremy Corbyn and staying in the thoroughly socialist European Union, then the choice the British people made was the right thing.
Well, you mentioned the coronavirus just a moment ago, and let me just say, ask you this: over here, a lot of people like Pat Buchanan and others have been saying, Well, I told you so.
Being dependent upon a global economy is not wise, and this is proving just how unwise it was.
In fact, believe it or not, we're running out of toilet paper over here.
I think people over here think Nick, a toilet paper is an antidote to whatever this may be.
And I've been reading, by the way, folks, you should, if you're not following Nick Griffin on Twitter at Nick GriffinBU, you should follow him.
And I think we're probably, when we get into this, we'll find that we agree.
And what we agree on is counterintuitive to the hysteria that we've seen as if this is some sort of a buponic plague apocalypse.
But anyway, Keith, very quickly, we're about to come to our side.
Well, to put it in English terms, when you can't wipe your bomb without having to rely on toilet paper coming from China, things have come to a fine pass, I think.
Absolutely.
We will follow up with Nick Griffin.
Excuse me, folks.
Perhaps I have it now.
Anyway, no, just getting over the flu and still a little bit of a cough.
But we have a full hour with Nick Griffin, a man who has flown near to the sun, a man with an illustrious career.
Always a treat to have him on.
Very thankful.
Unlike Icarus, he's still flying.
Yeah, that's the truth.
But thank you, Keith.
We'll be right back with you right after this.
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You know, even as an American, a triumphant anthem like that really makes my hair stand on edge because, of course, we all are one people, and we are all cousins, and we are all brothers in this battle.
So, Nick, I would ask you, we will get to the coronavirus later this hour, but the rural Britannia, I mean, what happened to the nation that produced something as triumphant as that?
I suppose primarily, we fought two world wars that really weren't anything to do with us and bankrupted themselves in the process.
And we ended up with a liberal elite which is more anti-British than any other force in the world has ever been.
And that's the end of that.
The music and that sort of era was a long time ago now.
And sadly, if you view, you know, that's what Britain's all about.
So I'm afraid, my friend, you're very much out of date.
Those days have long gone.
You know, British imperialism was by no means perfect.
The British invented, for instance, the concentration camp in the appalling war on behalf of the gold barons of the British Empire against the Boers in South Africa.
Terrible things were done under the British Empire, but at the same time, it gave the rule of law, freedom, sewage, railways, all sorts of things to vast sections of what's now the third world.
So I certainly wouldn't apologize for it.
But all my family got out of it was my grandfather's eldest brother got a spear in the arm from the fuzzy ones at the Battle of Omderman.
Apart from that, many of my family were, so at a time when the British were supposedly exploiting the world, they and their teens were down mines in Britain, and brothers of theirs simply didn't survive.
So there's a very strange dichotomy, really, this strange way that the whole British imperial thing, wonderful in some ways, wicked in others, but certainly, whatever you think of it, those days have gone from Britain, and probably overall, sadly, they're not coming back.
Well, you know, in a way, you could say that England's involvement in World Wars I and II was due to Churchill's fixation on the England of 1815, you know, the England of Lord Nelson and Arthur Wellesley and whatnot.
Because he was trying to maintain that balance of power again, and things had changed.
France was no longer a world power, and Germany was.
Yeah, absolutely so.
You know, obviously, all sorts of people involved in the wars.
The Second World War really was just a continuation of the first.
But for who's to blame for the first, you had to look partly at just blind development technology and so on, but also without a shadow of a doubt, various international banks.
There's an element whereby the people who were running the United States and with the Federal Reserve Act took control of effectively destiny of the United States and took it out of the hands of the American people.
And those same forces were also from very early on pushing for World War, partly just because war makes money for big business, and also because there was a desire from what you could now call the American deep state to destroy the empires of Western Europe, which were its great rivals.
And the war aim was to destroy all the empires of Europe to make the world safer, quote, democracy, unquote.
And that war aim was pretty much carried out with the fall, or successful, with the fall of the Russian Empire, the German Empire, the Austrian Empire.
And the Second World War finished off the British and the French ones as well.
So part of it was just blind stupidity, I think, that First World War.
We just walked into it.
And there were also some very malign, you could say in the end, satanic forces pushing us into that.
And sadly, those in power walked straight into the trap.
Well, I think Churchill was the prime mover for England's involvement in both of those wars.
And I've always been of the opinion that if Britain had not gotten involved in World War I, it would have been a replay of the Franco-Prussian War, at least on the Western Front.
Yes.
Sure.
Yeah, I've noticed that.
Six-week affair.
Yep, yep, absolutely.
So certainly Churchill played a huge role in ensuring not just that the Second World War started, but also that it continued at a point when it should have simply been stopped.
But everybody remotely involved, especially in the First World War, has to share a degree of the guilt.
And the way in which the guilt was totally pushed on Germany at the end of the war made the second round in 1939 absolutely inevitable.
Of course, in that one also, there's no doubt that Stalin saw Hitler and Nazi Germany as a way of breaking up and damaging the West for the final triumph of world communism.
So he had a role to play in that as well.
But it's all messy, but it's all now a very, very long time ago.
And what's done is done.
And we need to look at what's going to happen in the future for our people.
And the great irony is that England, Churchill was fighting these wars so that England would remain predominant in Europe.
And by getting England involved and the Anglosphere, by the way, in all those wars, he basically assured that England would not.
And of course, America did their duty in that as well, for the Anglosphere.
You're right.
I look at Dresden.
I mean, look, I mean, we won't chase rabbits here, but it was just a tragedy.
It was a tragedy across the board.
It was a tragedy for Western civilization.
But I like what Nick said.
I mean, yes, I mean, these are things we could relitigate time and time again, but let's look forward.
Let's be forward-thinking now.
And where do we go from here?
We can't rectify the mistakes made of the past.
So, you know, the purpose of this four-week series we're running during the month of March, which we're calling TPC's World Tour, Nick, is to see how we're doing in our different ports of call, whether it be in Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Australia, Canada, here in the United States.
And we thank you for coming on tonight to represent the UK, which, of course, we have such a great relationship with here in the U.S.
I mean, so many, obviously, how can you separate the history of America without the UK and Scotland, where my ancestors came from, and so on and so forth.
So, I mean, you know, going back to rural Britannia, the sun never set on the British Empire.
Now, it's hard to argue that we control the streets of London with the current mayor there.
How are things right now today?
And what can we point to as reasons for hope?
If you're talking Europe as a whole, then we'll probably talk about that more in due course.
Just briefly, McDresden was mentioned there.
I was at the 75th, the main foreign speaker, at the 75th anniversary of the destruction of Dresden by British and American Air Force at a huge rally there just a few weeks ago.
Thousands of people, mainly Germans, of course, but also there were contingents from basically every single European nation there marching solemnly alongside and with the Germans there under the banner of No More Brothers Wars.
nationally working together to try and ensure that our people don't go to war against each other in the future.
And that attitude is spread enormously over the last few years, especially across the old hotspots, say, you know, the still disputed border in nationalist terms between Poland and Germany or closer to home in Northern Ireland or Ireland between the Protestants and the Loyalists and the Catholics.
People realizing that we have to put those sort of things behind us.
So that's a good sign.
And that includes in Britain, as I say, there's an enormous reconciliation going on over the old, between the old communities in Northern Ireland as they realize that there's bigger enemies coming down the road.
So that's all good.
In terms of Britain and politically, bluntly, I've never seen, I've been active since 1974 in nationalist politics, I've never seen a time when there's been anything like as bad a situation as this.
And partly it's down to the Brexit thing, ironically, because now that the ordinary people have got Brexit, they think that everything's sorted and of course it isn't.
I imagine we'll come...
Hold on right there.
You heard the music and I think America could relate.
I mean, we got Trump and to say the least, he wasn't everything we had hoped he would be as a candidate.
His presidency has fallen far short of the goal.
And yes, I mean, a lot of people have gone back to sleep.
I think Brexit, that's a parallel there.
We will continue to ask this question and explore the answer from Nick Griffin, former member of European Parliament, when we come back.
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I want to say again, every time we have the opportunity to host Nick Griffin on this broadcast, what a treat it is for us to be able to do that.
I met Nick Griffin for the first time when I was 23 years old.
That was about 17, 18 years ago, if you can believe it.
And we were both speakers at an event, and this was before he was a member of European Parliament.
And this is a guy who ascended to a level of power and influence that most of us will never know.
But in doing so, he never betrayed his principles.
He never betrayed his convictions.
And because of that, he has my undying support and respect and allegiance.
And if you ever heard Nick Griffin make a speech on the floor of the European Parliament, it might have sounded something like this, a quick two-minute clip.
Let's play it.
Godfather of the European Union, Richard Kutenov-Keller, published the plan for a united Europe and the ethnicide of the peoples of Europe.
The encouragement of mass non-white immigration was central to the plot.
Since then, an unholy alliance of leftists, capitalists, and Zionist supremacists has schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation with the deliberate aim of breeding us out of existence in our own homelands.
As Indigenous resistance to this human genetic modification industry grows, the criminal elite seeks new ways to camouflage their project.
First, their immigrant porns were temporary guest workers.
Then it was a multiracial experiment.
Then they were refugees.
Then the answer to a shrinking population.
Different excuses, different lies.
And asylum is just another one.
But the real aim stays the same.
The biggest genocide in human history.
The final solution of the Christian European problem.
This crime demands a new set of Nuremberg trials, and you people will be in the dock.
Mr. Griffin, I want to hear this.
Blue card for you from Mrs. Gomez.
All right?
Senora Gomez.
Mr. President, I'm really ashamed of the racist and xenophobic terms that were used by Mr. Griffin.
And my only question to him is if he dared to make any concrete suggestions and amendments to the legislation.
Is your policy serious?
Or are you just shouting?
And I hope you will not be re-elected if you seek re-election, because it's a shame for this parliament, the kind of statements you have just made.
Mr. Griffin.
It's you that's shouting, because obviously the truth hurts.
Yes, I will be seeking re-election.
Yes, I hope to return here to speak up for the Indigenous Europeans, which the founder of this place has deliberately set out to wipe out, because that is a crime.
I'm telling the truth.
I have a constructive suggestion to help those poor asylum seekers from Africa.
Yes, make it clear they can't come here, so they don't try to cross the sea and drown in huge numbers.
The best way for them is to get the banks off the backs of their countries so they can live in peace in their countries, and we Europeans can live in peace in ours.
Thank you.
Well, let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen.
We don't have a single congressman or senator that would speak that truth in the United States.
God bless you, Nick Griffin.
Thank you.
Thank you.
When you hit the nail on the head, you drive it straight.
When you go back and listen to that, when you go back and you listen to that, Nick, I mean, obviously, what a great example you set for the rest of us.
I mean, what does that mean to you now?
As we go back to the question from the previous segment of where our people stand right now, what reasons for hope we have?
Well, at the time I made it, it was just another speech.
You're only allowed in the European Parliament either 60 seconds or sometimes 90 seconds to make your point.
And I gave it about two seconds over there.
So it was just another speech.
And it's only really in more recent years I get literally youngsters stop me in the street and say, you know, I saw that speech.
I didn't know anything about what was going on before.
And I've seen that.
And thank you so much.
And it's red-pilled huge numbers of people and become really a significant thing.
That's the thing I'll be best known for.
And certainly what I've done up until now.
So, you know, I'm very pleased that it's helped to make so many people, especially young people, see what the game is and see what's going on.
The job now is to be, again, blunt and realistic.
And what I've got to say on this doesn't please everybody, but what I'm saying is that when I started off about 1995, I did a series of tours around every single British National Party branch in the country and gave a speech, same speech to each one, where I said, look, we've got 25 years before the demographics of the situation have so changed that we can no longer turn this around through the political process through the ballot box.
25 years are now gone and the situation has changed to that extent.
There is no chance now of changing this through the political process.
It can't be done.
The demographics of Britain, of France, of Germany, and of the United States even, of the Christian European descended populations, are so grim, aging so quickly, the boomer generation dying off from now onwards so fast, that if people are saying this can be solved politically, they're either fools or they're lying in order to get people to join a political party and give them money.
That doesn't mean our people are finished, but the normality of a liberal capitalist system and of our people being the majority, it's coming to an end.
Our people have to understand that and start to think we're going to be a minority, but we're going to be the largest minority.
We're going to be the biggest minority of all the minorities.
We're the cleverest.
We're the ones who built these countries.
And if we start to organize and think like minorities, which is about being organized and looking after your own people, then this will be turned around.
It's going to take three generations of unprecedented collapse and horror before it is turned around.
But it will be.
Our people will take back our lost lands, but it won't be in our time.
Well, Nick, your people there in England are in a lot better shape than we are in America.
As Ann Coulter pointed out, you know, the indigenous white population is still 85% in Germany.
I think it's about 80% in England.
We're at 60% now.
So, you know, we're the canary in the coal mine now, I think.
I guess the real canary in the coal mine is South Africa, but we've got to turn this around.
Any suggestions on how to do that?
Well, and before you answer that, any, again, as we're trying to grasp for reasons for hope, I guess we would look to the east.
I think the last time you were on, which was in 2018, far too long, by the way.
We'll do a better job of that going forward.
But back in 2018, we were looking to the east for not salvation per se, but in any event, there are some good things going on in Eastern Europe.
Yeah, and they've got better things then.
If you look at Hungary, Poland, Russia, the governments, all of them are making a serious effort to turn around the demographic problem.
Russia has been re-Christianized at an unbelievable, incredible rate.
We've seen how in the Middle East, in Syria, Russia's come in on the side of the good guys against al-Qaeda, backed by not just the Obama regime, but every Western regime that there was then and still is now.
And Russia's pretty much sorted out to help.
So, yeah, there's hope there.
But let me put this straight.
I'm not saying the situation in the West is hopeless.
I'm saying that the possibility of it being turned around in a sort of normal way is finished.
But what I will say is I'm actually more hopeful than I've been for many years, because I would say that the demographic catastrophe that's striking now isn't just about as our population ages, it's going to mean that there's fewer workers looking after more elderly people.
It's going to mean that the whole basis of globalist capitalism and a fraudulent banking system, which is economic growth, is going to come to a grinding halt and be reversed with the result that the global capitalist system is now going to collapse because it simply cannot survive on a shrinking economy.
And with that goes the liberalism that's been built on it.
And the minute liberalism is over, then our people, even as a minority, can overcome any force that is on this planet.
And we'll say, we've got to take it back.
But if you look at the Rayconquister of Spain, it took 700 years for the Spaniards to get their country back from the Moors.
Why?
Not because that's how long it took them militarily to take it back.
It's simply because that's how long it took them to breed enough young Spaniards to go back and take that land as free soil farmers and dominate it once again.
And it's going to take our people three generations, but it's going to happen.
And that's actually, I have to just say amen to that.
I am a glass is half full type of activist.
I am an eternal optimist.
I think we will turn this around.
We don't have to have an oracle in our studio tonight.
We don't have to be able to tell you exactly what the catalyst will be.
I know that our people aren't going to exit the stage of history like this.
I don't know when it will happen.
I don't know what will happen that will cause us to reform and regroup.
But Nick, it will happen.
And when it does happen, it will be because of people like you and dare I say like us who stood strong during the bad years who bridged the gap.
I do think it will turn.
Well, one of the things we say on this show, one of our watch phrases is liberalism is a modern face of evil.
I think you believe that too.
That's what we have to turn around.
We've got to end this love affair that our people have with liberalism.
Well, as Nick said, it will turn.
It will turn.
My goodness, what a quick hour it's been.
We could go three hours with Nick every week and it wouldn't be enough time.
Nick Griffin, ladies and gentlemen, former member of European Parliament.
He's with us for one more segment.
He's burning the Midnight Oil over there in Europe to be a part of our special series this week, and we're thankful for him.
We'll be back with Nick one more segment.
Stay tuned.
I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
The press has created a rigged system.
They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So, so I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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I really don't want to talk about this, but I will.
I'm just so mad.
I didn't get asked to the junior prom, and it's raining, which means by the time I get to school, I'm soaking wet.
Dad picked me up just after I left, and I was so mad I got out and he said, wait, your mom said to give you this.
I forgot my lunch money, and then I dropped it in the water, and I was late for history.
And so at lunchtime, I had to find something on Jon Stewart Mill, which, of course, our library didn't have.
So I had to walk all the way down to the office to call my mom, and she found something on the internet and called me back.
And Karen, she wouldn't even help me.
And that's a whole nother story.
But dad helped me conjugate nouns or whatever on the way to the swim team workout.
And then he read my history paper while I was in the pool.
And of course, I forgot the bibliography.
So I had to do that with my mother when I got home.
And it made me totally forget that I put my jeans in the washer that morning.
And I hate it when they sit wet like that all day and smell like mildew.
But my mom said she put them in the dryer while I was at the swim team.
And you know, I'm just not going to go to the prom no matter who asks me.
I just want to stay home with my mom and dad and just hang out.
Isn't it about time?
Unless Dustin asked me.
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Well, as I said, every interview we do with Nick Griffin goes by far too quickly.
I have been blessed to have known this man since before my career on the AM radio airwaves here in the United States began in 2004.
And every time we have him on, it's always to the benefit of our audience.
Nick, we, of course, know your illustrious history.
Let's talk about what you're doing right now, because we want to be sure before we get into the meat of this last segment that we plug anything that you're currently working with and towards and all that good stuff, the contact information.
Of course, people can follow you on Twitter.
We have you there promoted at the top of our own Twitter handle.
But where can people find more about your current work?
Well, as you say, Twitter's the main place while I'm still there, and who knows how long that will be.
So that's not Nick Griffin BU, which stands for British Unity, by the way.
But as a backup for when Twitter goes, also, please follow me on Gab.
Now, I'm just in the process of working with some colleagues on setting up really an organization for the future in Britain.
And more on that in due course.
I'll get in touch with you, James.
Perhaps we can come on and talk about that fairly soon.
But the tour of that was one book I'm writing, which is, I've realized, in fact, it's three.
So there's three books, a trilogy.
First on where we are now and what's going to happen, which is pretty grim.
The second one on what the response of nationalists as an organizers organizationally needs to be, which is full of material which is going to blow people away, I think.
There's so much we can be doing, so much really good positive stuff once we stop banging our head against the electoral brick wall.
And then the third one is subtitle.
It's advice to a young nationalist about what an individual needs to do for their life, for their family, and so on, and what they can get involved in.
So I'm aiming to get the first of those off of the printer on the 1st of May, and those will be the manifesto and the strategic doctrine of this new movement.
So there's more coming shortly.
As for where I've been since the European Parliament, just one thing some of your listeners I'm sure will be interested to know, been involved in an organization called the Knights Timber Templar International.
We built an enormous network on Facebook of interlocking news aggregate sites, which in the run-up to Brexit, we had 4 million likes in total.
The run-up to Brexit, we were delivering 70 million pieces of really well-honed pro-Brexit material aimed at blue-collar workers in Britain.
We put out far more, we reached far more people than the official campaign did.
Clearly had an effect.
And in the Trump election, on the basis that Trump wasn't perfect, and we've seen that, but he's a heck of a lot better than Hillary Clinton would have been.
It would have probably got us all killed in World War III by now, had she been elected.
And we were reaching 70 million Americans a week with that material as well.
And we were on the front page of the New York Times as well as the Times of Britain as influencers in both those results.
So I'm very proud of that.
Unfortunately, that 4 million likes and enormous reach vanished literally overnight, from 4 million to zero.
So that was the end of that.
But it's a part of my career after my electoral period, which I hope one day will be seen as really important, even though in the case of both Brexit and Trump, what ordinary people voted for, sadly, isn't what we've now got.
Well, the future still springs eternal.
And I like you, Nick, and I appreciated that powerful segment that we had before the last break.
I think our people are going to be okay in the long run.
I don't have to be able to tell you how or when it will happen, but I do have that hope.
And I just think a people as brilliant and as wonderful and as accomplished and as conquering as ours are not going to go out the way that it looks like we might right now.
I just don't think that's going to happen.
Now, Nick Griffin, I was looking back in our archives.
If you go back to the evening of January 13th, 2018, I've been on the air 16 years, and one of the best shows we ever did happen that night.
Nick Griffin was on.
We talked about the role of Christianity and nationalist movements.
Go back and listen to that in the archives.
Nick, we've got to have you back on more frequently.
You're one of my favorite guests.
And it's, again, I mean this with all sincerity.
It's always our pleasure to have you on.
Well, it's my pleasure as well.
James gave you the ultimate compliment.
He said that listening to you caused the hair on his head to stand up and he has no hair on his head.
I meant to be the hair on my arms.
But no, it's true.
It's true that the left has caused my hair to fall out.
But anyway, we've got to think outside the box like Putin did.
I think Putin just re-elected himself until 2036 today.
So we've got to think outside the box.
But this is a time that people are losing their minds.
Nick, you mentioned the coronavirus.
I guess we should talk about that for a moment if you don't mind.
Well, if it gets much ado about nothing in a nutshell, what do you think?
I think so as well.
It's not nothing.
It's a very nasty flu virus.
And the odds are that in the shambolic divided nations of the West, they won't be able to respond as well as China has done.
You know, when you have a divided nation amongst itself, people will squabble and fall out and not behave for the public good as they should do.
So it's going to be pretty grim.
But so it might kill 4% or 5% of the population, overwhelmingly people who, without wishing to be cruel, were going to die within the next three years anyway.
So it's going to have a hell of an effect on individuals and their families and so on.
But it shouldn't bring an end of everything we knew.
This isn't a black death.
And it's being hugely overplayed by states.
And a lot of states and state machinery will be looking at this as an excuse, stroke an opportunity to practice clamping down on a population, to extend their powers temporarily, which will, of course, end up forever.
But I would say it's very important people understand that even when you see a liberal, particularly liberal state, taking advantage of this, it doesn't mean they did it.
There's too much tin foil hat stuff.
If you think back about three weeks, most people on the so-called right were saying this isn't an individual worry for us to worry about.
It might be a bioweapon and only Han Chinese die from it.
Well, tell that to the Italians now.
That isn't the case.
But what we're going to see here is an example of the liberals and power generally using, putting into practice the old adage, which I actually heard in the European Parliament, quote, never let a good crisis go to waste, unquote.
And they will use this crisis to do all sorts of things to enhance their power and their wealth and their control.
It doesn't necessarily mean they did it.
I think this is an act of nature, an act of God.
It's a warning sign, really.
If you want to play a globalized world where you rely on China for all the widgets that go into your factories, expect economic disaster at some stage.
If you want to have a globalized world where everyone flies around, expect a pandemic because that's what nature does.
And perhaps we're quite lucky with this one.
If we get away with 34% dead, it might be a lesson to people.
But there's a lot to be said for being more localized, having your own supply chain and so on, and having the time, if something does break out, to work on a solution, to work on antibiotics and so on, to work on vaccines and get it sorted out before it hits you.
So this disaster is really a disaster of the globalized world.
And perhaps something good will come out of it if that to some extent is checked and perhaps reversed.
Well, Nick, this is Keith again.
One of the things we're seeing here in America is this one-upsmanship between the right and the left.
It's like the politicians for the Republicans felt they were vulnerable to being said that they weren't taking it seriously enough.
So they go to ever more extreme prophylactic measures, I guess, to protect.
Like we have professional sports have just evaporated overnight.
All sorts of other meetings of one sort or another.
People are being told that they're going to be paid by the government for the time that they would have off.
And they've shut down schools.
They've shut down universities and whatnot.
And it's like it's a game of one-upsmanship or one-downsmanship, I guess.
What's it like there?
Partly that.
Yep, it's that.
I think there's also a factor here that there's actually a genuine fear in these people.
I think it's to do with the fact that when people cease to believe in God and they become the most important thing in the universe, then their life becomes all-important and the prospect of it being snuffed out forever, as they see it, becomes very, very scary.
And you're seeing a panic here of atheism.
And again, one of the good things this will do, certainly Britain is far more de-Christianized than the United States is.
I think this will drive a lot of people back to religion, back to Christianity, as they realize that there is something bigger out there.
And once you understand that, then, well, I've got to die sometime, really, so what?
And at that point, I think you can put this into perspective and just get on with it.
This is a really nasty flu virus.
Or at least that's all it was until the globalists have overreacted.
And I think now the end result will be potentially a real, real severe economic dislocation.
But for the rest of us, those of us who don't die, things will be back to normal fairly soon.
Well, if this doesn't knock us into a recession, nothing will either.
Yes.
Absolutely.
So I think so.
Yeah, you're right.
Nick Griffin, my friend, thank you so much.
Always an honor, always a pleasure.
I appreciate you working with us and for all the time you've given us over the years.
It has been hard to believe, nearly two decades now since we first met, but I appreciate the impact you've had on my work, and we look forward to the next time already.
Thank you, James.
I'll look forward to coming back in.
Yeah, let's not leave it so long.
Hang in there like Ganga Din, my friend.
Certainly not.
Certainly not.
It will not be another two years, that's for sure.
Nick Griffin, everybody, follow him on Twitter at Nick GriffinBU.
Nick Griffin, God bless you.
Thank you.
Thank you for leading a life.
Thank you.
Keith, fantastic.
Member of European Parliament.
I sure wish we had a congressman or a senator like him.
We don't have one.
One.
Not one that would have given that two-minute speech that we played tonight or the excerpt of that speech.
You're right.
That's the fruits of freedom over there.
I think that America is a more totalitarian nation than England or just about any place in Europe.
What's the difference between the two-party duopoly and the parliamentary system where a guy like Nick Griffin can break through with a vehicle like the British National Party, which, of course, he used to be in the world?
Get a microphone.
We can't get a microphone for people like that.
Anyway, fantastic interview.
Fantastic way to start the show.
Henrik Pomgren's up next as TPC's World Tour continues.
We go from the UK to Sweden.
And then later in the show, third hour, it's going to be me and Keith on the coronavirus.
If you want more talk about the coronavirus, we got it.
Third hour, don't miss a minute of tonight's show.