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June 22, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome, everybody, to what is for me a very special broadcast of TPC this Saturday evening, June the 22nd.
And I'm your host, James Edwards.
Tonight is my birthday, June 22nd, and I believe it was on a Saturday in 1980, in fact, when I was born.
Born on a Saturday, June 22nd.
The stars are in alignment tonight, and I have never spent a birthday with you on the air.
I think some years ago, June 22nd fell on a day we were broadcasting.
It may have been before we switched to the weekend format back when we were still nightly, but we had a fill-in for that night, obviously.
And I won't be here for the entire evening.
Keith Alexander and Sam Bushman will be taking over the second hour tonight.
And we've got a special treat in store for you in the third hour.
But it was important to me.
I just thought, you know what?
June 22nd, it's my birthday.
How often will the next June 22nd be on a Saturday?
I mean, I guess years from now, right?
So let's do this.
So I'm happy to be here with you tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
It's wonderful to spend a little bit of my special day with you.
And we are a family, are we not?
And I hope you'll enjoy the show that we've got tonight.
I have been spending the entire week with my nuclear family, my wife, my children, and even my parents.
We have been out of town this week and enjoying each other's company.
And again, coming back and being able to be with you just for a few minutes tonight was something that I wanted to do.
Now, let's talk about that into TPC family.
I want to get this out right from Jump Street this evening and give a roll call and read a little listener mail, roll call of some of the cities and towns from which we have received support over the course of the last few days.
There are more, to be sure.
We will get to the rest of them next week, but let's hear a big round of applause for our listeners in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, Chino, California, Santa Rosa, California, Louisville, Kentucky, Plainfield, Connecticut, and our friend up there in Plainfield, Rob, sent us in a great letter, which I will personally respond to you, Rob.
I promise.
I appreciate you taking the time to write that.
Troutdale, Virginia, dear, dear couple in Troutdale, loyal supporters.
Fanning Springs, Florida, Essington, Pennsylvania.
Listener from Essington writes, to James and staff, I'm so proud of all the hard work you do.
You guys are true American heroes.
Keep up the great work.
Well, I don't know about all of that.
We do the best we can with what we've got, and what we've got is what you, dear audience, gives us.
So thank you for that.
In Telford, Pennsylvania, as well, Rockville, Maryland, Moravia, New York, Rudy, Arkansas, Franklin, Indiana, Brick, New Jersey.
One of our listeners up in Brick writes, hey, James, keep up the good work.
I listen all the time.
Well, thank you, brother, for that.
Ocala, Florida, just actually drove through Ocala not a couple of days ago.
Marietta, Georgia, if I'm pronouncing this right, Bogota, New Jersey.
Gallatin, Tennessee, Rich and Janice, we love you.
Pleasant Hill, Iowa, Valley, Alabama, Chicago, Illinois, back down in Brazil.
I tell you what, we've got some listeners in Brazil that are as loyal as anybody right here in Memphis, Tennessee.
Houston, Texas, Beecher, Illinois, San Marcos, California, Baldwin, New York, Kernersville, North Carolina, and again, more to come.
Ladies and gentlemen, out there giving us the support to get the job done.
Thank you for that on my birthday and every day.
I thank you.
Got a letter from one of our listeners.
Great show.
TPC Makes My Sunday morning.
Yes, not everybody listens live.
Some people listen throughout the week.
Some people listen on their transit to work during the week.
Of course, some people listen live on the MDI, live on the internet.
But this listener writes, Is Eddie okay?
I haven't heard from him in a while.
Yes, Eddie is alive and well and alive.
And he's doing his own podcast.
He's been doing that for almost a year now, about nine months, and doing a good job.
It was just one of the bucket list things he wanted to do, go his own way and be his own boss, I guess you could say.
And we still, of course, talk with Eddie and share fellowship.
So he is doing just fine.
And thank you for asking.
I thought I'd make mention of that, but maybe I hadn't mentioned it enough or haven't mentioned it in a while.
But yes, once you're part of the TPC family, it's sort of like the mob.
You're always TPC family.
And you are family indeed, ladies and gentlemen.
I want to thank the people who were on last week with us: Kevin McDonald, Dr. McDonald, Jason Kuna.
Great show last week.
As the listener just wrote, he listens every Sunday morning.
Well, you can do that as well.
Our broadcast archives are always there.
Looking back, you know, birthdays, anniversaries, end of years, New Year's, you know, things like that, you always go and sort of do, I guess, a self-assessment, a little introspection.
The hands of time certainly do spin quickly, do they not, ladies and gentlemen?
Here, 15 years now on the radio, now I'm on the cusp of turning 40, and I know that that's not that old, but certainly about twice the age that I was when I first took this microphone in hand to come and deliver this broadcast to you.
So it is going by and it is catching up.
So we feel it's natural that we share these special occasions with one another.
Holidays, anniversaries, birthdays gives us the time to pause and reflect on what we've accomplished in life and what we've accomplished together while remembering those who are important to us, remembering those who are no longer with us.
And certainly we have suffered those losses as well.
Bill Rowland and many other of our favorite guests.
So I guess the point is, you never know, really, how much time, only God knows how much time we're going to have together.
And on these special occasions, I just, I am, I guess, yes, sentimental in some ways.
I value relationships.
I value memories.
I look forward to the future.
But, you know, we all try to live in the moment, but it's important to remember the past as well.
And certainly we do that here on the Political Festival with Confederate History Month, especially and some of the other projects that we do.
But I think all too often people just go through life and they don't pause to be thankful.
And certainly we do that here.
Perhaps we do it more than we should.
But we, from the bottom of my heart, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
I appreciate y'all taking part in this journey with me.
We've accomplished so much together.
I hope that we will continue to do so.
And so I am thankful to have the love and support of so many wonderful people, some of the people we just read off from these cities.
It's the greatest gift that anyone could have.
I thank you for being there for me throughout the year, for being here for this radio program, which is certainly my life's work.
Really an honor to share a birthday with my listening audience tonight.
And I would remind you, too, that our first quarter fundraising drive wraps up in just one week, in one week's time.
And if you can contribute $100 or more, you will receive the audio CD of our classic interview with Drew Lackey.
That's another one of our former guests that have gone on to his eternal reward.
He is pictured in the iconic photograph, Fingerprinting Rosa Parks.
We've been talking about it all month.
The former police chief of Montgomery, Alabama, was right there on the front lines during the so-called civil rights movement.
And he gives you another view of the civil rights era.
And we have got it captured on a CD, which we will make available to you for your contribution of $100 or more.
Those will go out.
And we would love to have your name on that list.
So $100 or more, that is yours.
And you can donate, of course, at thepoliticalsuccessible.org, send in a check, however you'd like to do it.
And your support makes everything that we do, of course, possible.
Well, that is enough of that, I guess you could say.
Let's get down to work, shall we?
We have a busy show tonight, and it's not just going to be talking about birthday candles.
It is going to be the serious work that this show does.
And it'll get started when we come back.
Stay tuned.
Why don't we say to the government, writ large, that they have to spend a little bit less?
Anybody ever had less money this year than you had last?
Anybody better have a 1% pay cut?
You deal with it.
That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut.
If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief.
But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible.
Who are they?
Republicans.
Who are they?
Democrats.
Who are they?
Virtually the whole body is careless and reckless with your money.
So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere.
The money will be added to the debt, and there will be a day of reckoning.
What's the day of reckoning?
The day of reckoning may well be the collapse of the stock market.
The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar.
When it comes, I can't tell you exactly, but I can tell you it has happened repeatedly in history when countries ruin their currency.
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Former Texas Congressman Steve Stockman, who moved to arrest Lois Lerner for contempt of Congress, has been imprisoned by the very office that Lerner led.
You heard right.
Stockman hit the Obama administration hard and they hit back with the full force of the federal government.
The guy who said he wanted Mark Levin as Speaker of the House was the first to threaten Obama's impeachment, exposed Hillary's selling steel to the Iranians, and blocked both Obama's immigration and gun bills from even reaching the House.
But Obama holdovers came after him in federal court with trumped-up charges and have locked our guy up.
Like many others, he was on Obama's hit list.
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You know where the solution can be found, Mr. President?
In churches, in wedding chapels, in maternity wards across the country and around the world.
More babies will mean forward-looking adults, the sort we need to tackle long-term, large-scale problems.
American babies in particular are likely going to be wealthier, better educated, and more conservation-minded than children raised in still industrializing countries.
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Okay, there was one more letter I forgot to read that I had selected to read in the last segment.
So let's get to it very quickly and then we're going to get down to work as promised.
This comes from a listener in Salt Lake City, Utah, where our network is based.
Dear James and Keith, as you're fond of saying, our people have endured far worse than pain, excuse me, our people have endured far worse pain of physical challenge.
He's talking about with regards to the sacrifices of being defamed that we have to suffer here.
Certainly better men than us have suffered much worse.
One example was the Battle of Waterloo.
Due to the risk of gangrene, over 2,000 limbs were amputated.
Almost all of the amputations were performed without anesthetic.
Many fainted from the pain and shock.
Others endured the procedure with astonishing courage.
A man named Lord Uxbridge barely uttered a word while his leg was amputated.
Thank you for your great work.
And that comes from Jeff in Utah.
Well, thank you, Jeff, for comparing our courage to the courage of men who amputated their own legs without merely a whimper.
I don't know if I have that in me, but what I do have in me is what you get here.
Well, I'll tell you what, I'd do it if I had to.
That's for sure.
I'd do it if I had to.
Wouldn't you, for your children, for your people?
I don't know if I could do it without a whimper, though.
That's pretty rough stuff.
Okay, let's get down to it.
As I said, we've got a special guest coming up for you at the bottom of this hour.
Okay, and that's going to be our featured guest for the evening.
And then the rest of the show, special weekend, is going to be a little bit different.
So you're going to have Keith and Sam teaming up in the second hour.
And I'm just going to give you a little preview of some of the stories they're going to be talking about.
So they've got the most interesting stories of the week.
And I'll just give you my quick 30-second take on each, and then they're going to dive into each of them with a little more commentary and opinion and analysis in the second hour.
But you may have heard that this college student was expelled, or rather, he was accepted into Harvard, and then the admissions department rescinded his acceptance because it became known that he had uttered the dreaded N-word.
Don't you just feel childlike?
N-word, you know, as if adults can't comprehend the word, as if you don't know what that word is.
I mean, can you not say it in the context of a story?
We have to pretend we're children.
Don't say the F-word or the D-word, the N-word.
Obviously, all those other words, GD, you can say anything, but don't say the N-word.
God help you.
So he was expelled from Harvard for having uttered the N-word a couple of years ago, I guess.
You know, when he was, what, 14, 16, something like that.
Well, it came to light, don't you know?
And that's the end of, you know, his career at Harvard ended before it began.
And people say this has been a national news story.
What made it a national news story was that this kid was a survivor, if you will, of the shooting at Parkland, the high school in Parkland, Florida, which we all remember.
And he was a nominal conservative, pro-gun type of guy.
And So because of that, it made national news because of the Parkland connection.
And people are saying, I'm reading about it in the national news this week, well, freedom of speech has consequences.
He has this freedom of speech, but with freedom of speech comes consequences.
He was expelled.
That just goes to show you have no freedom of speech.
You can say, yeah, well, you have freedom of speech, but we're going to put a bullet in your head if you use it.
That's not freedom of speech.
This isn't freedom of thought or diversity.
This is what we always say.
I mean, these totalitarian people who are forcing tolerance and diversity upon us certainly have no tolerance for political incorrectness, no tolerance for freedom of speech, no tolerance for freedom of thought.
But I think that this kid's biggest mistake was his apology, this groveling apology to the dean of admissions, which, of course, got him nowhere.
It only took remaining self-respect he may have had and threw it away.
That was, I think, his biggest mistake was the apology.
His career at Harvard was already done.
The writing was on the wall on that.
His job prospects, career prospects forever diminished.
He could have at least kept his chin up, but he couldn't even manage to do that.
And I know how it is.
I've been there.
I've been there more than most people in the world.
But I never made that mistake.
I understand you think that it will help, but it never does help.
Now, one thing that the media isn't talking about here in America was the fact that this person was Jewish.
And the American media is, of course, just painting him off as a racist white student.
But the Jewish Telegraphic Agency made mention of the fact that he was, in fact, Jewish.
So it's interesting that Jewish media, well, in Israel, like the ones we have here, but the Jewish media made mention of the fact that he's Jewish.
But the American media, what I have seen has not.
But one more thing about tolerance.
I love the Hutton Gibson quote on tolerance.
Tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society.
When an immoral society has blatantly and proudly violated all the commandments and insists upon one last virtue, tolerance for its immorality.
It will not tolerate condemnation of its perversions.
It creates a whole new world in which the intolerant critic of intolerable evil is evil.
And I think that that's certainly true.
Speaking of intolerance, Cracker Barrel, this supposedly down-home traditionalist country restaurant chain, founded right here in Tennessee, Cracker Barrel denies service to a Christian pastor.
Now, they're calling him an anti-gay pastor.
Well, what is a pro-gay pastor?
Not a pastor of all, at least not a pastor of the Christian faith, if you are in fact that.
But his church group was going to have a meeting, a sit-down, a prayer meeting at a Cracker Barrel in Cleveland, Tennessee.
And Cracker Barrel got wind of it.
I believe the local state Democratic Party sent him a letter ratting him out and tipping him off.
And Cracker Barrel denied service saying this goes against our company's values, and we will not be tolerant of those who are intolerant.
We're going to have intolerance for people who have the Christian belief on homosexuality.
And it's interesting because in 1991, Cracker Barrel actually fired a woman who worked for them when it became known that she was a lesbian.
And what they said then, and quite rightly, was that this goes against our morals as a company, and so we're going to dismiss you.
Now, fast forward to the current year, what, 30 years later almost, 28 years later?
And now they're fired.
They won't even serve Christians their meal if it's going to cost them a little bit of bad press.
And I thought that's what the so-called civil rights movement was all about.
So everybody could eat at the same lunch counter or something like that.
Dorothy Sayers writes, in the world it's called tolerance, but in hell it's called despair.
The sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, or fears with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive only because there's nothing for which it will die.
Well, that's what these people are.
These thugs, the tolerance and diversity crowd, first of all, they don't believe it.
They don't believe it at all.
They're the most intolerant people in the world.
They're just empty, vapid nothing.
What a meaningless and listless life these people must have to fight for the morals of corporate America, to fight for the morals of Burger King.
This is where we're at.
Keith, I will give you more information on this story in the next hour.
The Supreme Court, the so-called conservative Supreme Court, has ruled against Republicans in Virginia, sided with Virginia Democrats in a gerrymandering case.
Now, Keith has always said if the Republicans were serious, they would use redistricting.
You can call that gerrymandering if you so will.
I guess it's gerrymandering if you're against it, redistricting if you're for it.
But redistricting happens all the time.
It happened since the founding of the Republic.
Lines get redrawn.
It just happens.
And if you're serious about delivering for your base, you need to use the rules as they stand and do whatever it takes to get an advantage.
But the so-called conservative Supreme Court has struck down some measures that the Virginia Republicans were taking that they say, you know, gerrymanders districts on racial lines.
Because God knows the Democrats would never do that to give blacks a heads up or anything like that.
But Keith will give you more information on that because it's interesting, Keith, in the past, has said this is exactly what Republicans should do.
They tried it here, and not going to happen, according to the Republican Supreme Court.
Congress has started hearing hearings on slavery reparations.
More on that in a second hour.
But first, our guest, and he's coming your way next.
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In the words of President Trump, the U.S. was cocked and loaded for retaliatory airstrikes against Iran overnight after Iran shot down an unmanned U.S. drone on Wednesday.
Trump tweeting this morning that he canceled the airstrikes at the last minute because it would not be proportionate to the shooting down of an unmanned drone.
He said he was told that an estimated 150 people would die at the three sites that were going to be targeted in Iran.
That drone went down in the straits of Hermuz.
The Pentagon called it unprovoked and irresponsible.
Iran says it was in its airspace.
The U.S. says it was in international airspace.
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A Texas police officer killed in the line of duty, shot by a suspect late yesterday.
Investigators say the unidentified mission police officer had been waved down and told of a suspect who was brandishing a weapon.
The suspect ended up firing on the officer who died at a hospital.
The suspect is now in custody.
President Trump giving an exclusive interview to the Spanish language network Telemundo airing Thursday.
The conversation included the president discussing his immigration policies like the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program or DACA.
I revoked it because everybody said that Obama had no right to do it, but I didn't revoke it quickly.
I said, let's make a deal.
They were unable to make a deal.
So now it's sitting before the United States Supreme Court.
I am willing to do something with the Dreamers.
This week, President Trump indicated he wanted to begin the process of removing millions of illegal immigrants from the nation.
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All right.
Welcome back, everybody, to a special birthday weekend installment of TPC.
And joining me on my birthday is my longtime friend and yours, Richard Spencer, president of the National Policy Institute.
And of course, you can follow Richard at Richard B. Spencer on Twitter.
And I called Richard up and I said, Richard, I have nothing in mind, but let's just see what news stories you're tracking, what's on your mind, what you've been up to, and just let it evolve.
So, Richard, take it away.
Well, happy birthday, James.
I am on the back of the camera on the day of your entrance into this world.
Yeah.
Yeah, the world was forever changed on that day in 1980, that's for sure.
Yeah, we're living in the post-Edwards era.
That's true.
But yeah, no, I'm feeling good.
I'm very happy that summer has arrived and I'm in the Midwest kind of just working on some things.
I'm actually here with my friend and soon-to-be colleague Ed Dunnin.
So I could actually put him on the line.
We are in a car right now, traveling at 60 miles per hour.
But neither of us are driving, so it's A-okay.
But yeah, I mean, just real quick, things that I'm thinking about.
I think we're in this kind of weird limbo state with the affairs of the world.
The Iran, a war with Iran just hangs over us like a specter.
I have, and you've been following this as well.
I mean, I have seen this over the past dozen years over and over again.
I really thought back in 2007 that Cheney would have his way and we would be attacking Iran in some fashion.
It seems like over the summers, I remember summer of 2010 it came up again, and then 2014 it came up again.
There are all these pushes by the media government complex that are, you know, aligned with one another to get us to go to war with Iran.
And this time we have, you know, Donald Trump, who spoke so vehemently against Iran during his campaign.
Then he has John Bolton in his cabinet.
And it was like, well, you know, Katie, bar the doors, this might actually happen.
Apparently, what we learned last night was that claims were in the air planning to bomb strategic targets.
I would imagine it would have been something like we saw, you know, against Syria in 2017 and 2018, a kind of limited strike, but that flames were in the air by the government.
And at the very last minute, Donald Trump slammed the abort button and prevented it.
And so this shows how close we are.
It also kind of makes us wonder who is this man who's the commander in chief of the United States military or even more sinister, you could say, are there other forces in the government that are in control, launching wars or at the very least, military strikes, and that Trump figures out what's happening at the last minute and stops them?
We just simply don't know.
We're out of the loop.
But it's very scary.
I obviously think in Iran, war would be catastrophic.
And again, we're in this limbo state where I don't think anyone really knows where this is going.
All of these war flames could die down, and this could pass like a lot of things in the Trump administration, where he talks big, he tweets big, everyone gets excited, and we have furious debates about it, but then it just kind of drifts away.
But at the very least, we might, again, this casual conversation we have might be the calm before the storm.
We very well might be on the verge of a catastrophic military campaign.
But at least today, seems to be off.
I'm glad that you brought up the topic of Iran because it's something that needs to be talked about on this particular broadcast.
And I'm only here for an hour tonight.
And I would also agree with you on the state of the wider movement.
I mean, everything, of course, has ebbs and flows, high tides and low tides and all of that.
And right now, certainly those of us who were there a couple of years ago, and in our case, it's 10 years ago, and some people even longer than that.
I mean, we're still here, and we are still doing the work.
And we're still stoking the embers.
And, of course, some things are beyond the control of any man.
And you play your role and you apply yourself as best you can.
And you see how the situation manifests around you.
And right now, we don't know what it's going to look like.
I mean, we've got, of course, another presidential election, how serious that is in terms of its ability to change the direction of the country.
Obviously, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Here you have a complete continuation of the Bush-era foreign policy with this situation in Iran, or at least potentially so.
I saw the same things you were reading, Richard, in that it looked as though at the 11th hour and 59th minute, Trump supposedly diverted this attack that he had previously signed off on, which I think was a good move, obviously.
But the fact that it came that close at all should be concerning to Right-thinking people.
And I saw something.
The whole narrative, though, is just as silly as all of the narratives in these endless wars in the Middle East before.
There was something hilarious on Twitter.
I don't know who put it up there, but it had Nikki Haley holding a picture of the tanker.
And she said, if you don't believe that Iran did this, you look this tanker in the eye and tell it that.
Something to that effect.
But the whole thing, was that you?
Okay, I must have saw it on your page.
But I'll laugh my ass off on that.
And so there's stuff like that.
And then I think a drone may have been attacked or something.
But the whole narrative that Iran's clamoring for a war with America and America is just defending the people.
There was another one.
I know you sent this one out with Bolton saying we have to.
I don't have it pulled up right now, but it was from The Onion Bolton saying we have to attack Iran for killing the people for the soldiers who would have died if we had attacked Iran or something nonsensical like that.
But this is basically the thought process of the neocons.
It is nonsensical.
But anyway, it's interesting that it's not working.
I've noticed this because, you know, there was a huge push in the Obama, the second half of the Obama administration to go into Syria.
And there again, there was a red line that Obama said, and there was a chemical attack.
Now, whether Assad was actually guilty of this, I'm highly dubious of that, to say the least.
But there was a setup for war, and it's not working.
And I think this says something about the mood of the country.
I think if you go and go to a coffee shop or a bar or wherever, and you ask people, what do you think about Iran?
I think they would probably say, meh.
It's not in their consciousness.
And the way that Iraq was in people's consciousness 15 years ago and 9-11 just haunted us, informed everything for a number of years.
And I think the population's changed.
And as there's demographic changes, one of the ironies of this is that you don't have this, you have less of a unified, homogeneous white population that can get excited about a war.
And again, I'm not saying this to endorse mass immigration, but it is one kind of ironic consequence of this new America that we live in that people just don't care.
Well, no, you're right.
They certainly don't care about that.
We're seeing in Congress, we have the congressional hearings this week on reparations for slavery.
I mean, there's certainly a subsect of the Democratic voting base that cares about that, but I don't know really who.
I mean, there are some people in the Republican base that clamor for these wars, but the actual people who vote, I can't say, you know, this is the type of demographic that is for these wars.
I mean, I think there's the mindless patriot that waves the flag no matter what the government does type of person.
But even that, that's not a specific demographic set.
I mean, maybe it's older white people, I guess.
But that's about it.
It is them, and they are losing political and demographic power by the day.
It just is what it is.
I mean, I think it is an ironic consequence of mass immigration.
And We'll look like I was just going to say we may look like Belize City in a few years, but at least we won't be in Iran.
Right.
Exactly.
I mean, I don't, I'm saying this with a heavy heart.
I mean, Brazil isn't, you know, ruining the world or engaging in insane wars in the Middle East.
We'll say that.
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We'll see what he thinks about what's going on in the Democratic primary.
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I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
The press has created a rigged system.
They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else.
And you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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All right, just a couple more minutes with Richard Spencer.
And I guess this will tie into what we were talking about in the previous segment.
I saw another interview with Tulsi Gabbard.
I believe she may have been talking with Bill Himmer.
It could have been him.
Anyway, it was an interview with her on the situation in Iran.
And she said mostly good things.
But that leads us into the situation with the president.
Now, like a lot of us, Richard, I guess we focus too much on the presidency because truly the trajectory has been in motion pretty much undeterred since at least the 1950s.
I mean, it's just been a long, slow march, and there's been no stumbling blocks for the Lefford expansion.
And I think that we all thought that there was a chance, at least a chance, that Trump could be somebody that would upset that Ford momentum.
He at least had the potential to do that.
He had a lot of the attributes and the intangibles that you would need.
And of course, that's all been well documented.
So we all got excited about that in 2016.
Now, though, where we stand today on June 22nd, if the election was today, I really don't know if I would vote for the president.
Thankfully, there's a year left for him to do something.
But at this point, it's safe to say he's fallen far short of his candidacy.
And so I would ask you, Richard, with the crowded field that we see going on in the Democratic primary and with where Trump stands today, what's your take on the way things are shaping up?
Obviously, things can and will change many, many times between now and next year.
They'll change over the course of the next few months.
So what we say now is probably not going to age well at all.
But I would say my first take is I'm a little surprised that Joe Biden, who in some ways may be more keen and aware racially than even Trump, that Joe Biden, this very old white man, is leading the Democratic field so handily.
I don't think it will last.
You know, I've been joking about this as well, that Joe Biden might very well be the most racist man running for president, including Trump.
And whereas Trump, you know, did some stuff in New York and, you know, has talked big and so on, Biden has actually led the charge on all of these policies and crime bills that Democrats say are racist and genuinely feel that they are.
So I don't think he's going to last.
I think he peaked a little too early.
I think that everyone is, a lot of liberals are just settling on Joe Biden.
And I also would not at all underestimate Bernie Sanders because he is a candidate who could very well win.
And he could actually hit Trump where it hurts in the sense that he polled very well in those Midwestern states that Trump miraculously won.
Trump won not because he actually won the white vote.
In fact, he won less of the white vote than Mitt Romney.
People forget this.
How he won is that he won over different white people.
And so he won over former Obama voting people who voted for Trump in 2016 and probably stayed home in the midterm.
And that's how he pulled off this, you know, again, quite miraculous Electoral College victory.
Bernie can win those voters.
And Bernie really does have that bit of the Ron Paul factor, you could say, or that genuine grassroots, let's change the system support.
And so I do think Bernie is going to have a lot of staying power.
And I think Biden has peaked and that he's going to go down from here.
And now, of course, someone could play this two years from now.
I could look like a fool, but we'll see.
But I would say this.
I think people should at least take a look at the kind of, you could say, anti-system candidates.
That is people who really are offering something different, really are challenging the powers that be, who really are addressing the crisis.
And I would say the two anti-system candidates that I like are Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang.
Tulsi Gabbard has made her campaign centered around no more regime change force.
She is directly challenging the foreign policy establishment.
And so she's going up against the big boys and she's gotten smeared for it.
Not to the degree that Trump has been smeared or you and I have been smeared, but she's definitely gotten smeared.
And then the other thing is Andrew Yang, who whatever you want to say about universal basic income or this kind of goofy Asian guy, Asian nerd running for office, whatever you want to say about those, he's actually addressing the legal crisis of de-industrialization and the outsourcing and robotics and AI and all of it.
And he is offering something as a way out.
And again, whereas Biden talks about Charlottesville or whatever, he's made his campaign just about non-issues and emotion and self-righteousness.
Someone like Yang is actually addressing real social historical issues, you could say, and offering a solution.
And so I think these people should be, at least give them your time, your listeners.
I bet your listeners might, ah, they might really not like voting for Democrat.
But at least think about these people because they're offering real things.
Well, you've touched on a lot of things.
Number one, the whole thing with Trump, one of the things that really propelled him out of the gates.
I mean, of course, again, the intangibles.
He was a billionaire.
He didn't have to rely on the campaign funding, traditional campaign funding structure, universal name recognition because he was a celebrity.
But the two issues that really got him off the ground was, of course, immigration, obviously, and the refreshing take on foreign policy with regard to these wars.
I mean, he was taking it further than they, or at least to the extent that Gabbard was.
And so Gabbard's picked up on that.
And I think that that's a good issue.
That's a good issue.
And Andrew Yang, well, I'll tell you, I know some of our people are saying, well, if we're going to become Brazil, we might as well be Brazil with $1,000.
I don't know if he's going to get the universal, you know, the $1,000 a month everybody passed if he even becomes president, which is, of course, a long shot.
But I'll tell you this.
This is the truth.
If you're not going to be able to find common ground with a candidate on the topics of race, a lot of the topics that motivate us and identity.
And if there's not going to be a candidate out there that's going to speak our language with regards to identity, I tell you that the silver bullet for anybody would be addressing issues that affect everybody.
And that would be health care, number one.
I mean, the healthcare system is, it's absolutely unaffordable for a middle-class family to have health care if you're not getting it through an employer.
If you're having to buy it, I mean, there's no way you can afford it.
And then this whole thing with the college loan scam, which is the biggest scam perhaps ever perpetrated in civilization, that these students go in and they get saddled with a new home but without the home type of thing, where they've got six figures in debt before they ever even have a job.
And it's a job that most of these degrees can't even get them a job.
These worthless degrees from these worthless universities.
If a candidate could come in and settle the college loan problem and work for a more just health care system, that would be it.
But for whatever reason, neither party seems to be able to make any movement on that issue.
You know, Tucker has, Tucker Carlson has mentioned this.
You know, people like you and I have talked about it for a while, but we have this left-right divide that seems false and where the right is about, it is implicitly about American identity and ultimately white identity, but it's also about free market economics and you better pay back those student loans faster.
Don't even think about getting out of that $100,000 crippling debt that you took on at age 22 or whatever.
And then the left, they'll often say things that I agree with on, not all of them, but by no means all of them, but on foreign policy, on just caring about people, at least talking about the social and economic problem.
And we've split the left and right.
And why can't we synthesize them?
Why can't we have a party that is economically and socially populous, but then isn't all about gay rights and trends, whatever, and all this nonsense?
Why can't someone crack that nut?
And, you know, I guess in a way to ask the question to answer it, it's because the system doesn't want that nut to be cracked because that would actually be a unifying party.
And what the system wants is 4951 at every election.
And so we're always caring about this stuff.
It flips back and forth.
We want to participate in something that doesn't actually change our lives.
And I think that's the ultimate reason why that candidate won't come.
And again, I am now anti-Trump on so many levels, but that Trump that appeared in 2016, Really was that type of candidate.
He was that paradigm-changing candidate.
I mean, I hate to say this because it sounds fallacious, but it's national socialism.
I mean, not in a, certainly in a historical sense, but just in the sense of we're going to be a national country with an identity, but we're not, our identity is not going to be globalism and free market.
It's going to be taking care of people.
There are European nations that are much more racially homogenous than us, that have universal health care.
And would we frown upon that?
I mean, it's what's best for our people.
That's the litmus test.
When you look at an issue, is it's what's best for our people and throw everything else out.
And if it is, you go with it.
And I like what you said about a synthesis.
I mean, Tulsi Gabbard's horrible on a lot of things, but she's right on the war.
So we can take that.
We can take this.
We can take this from this guy, put it all together.
But the question should be on whatever issue.
Are we supposed to agree with a creep like John Kasich because he's a white man with an R next to his name?
Is it what's best for our people?
And the rest of it goes.
Richard, it went by far too quickly.
Thanks for spending a few minutes with me on my birthday at Richard B. Spencer on Twitter.
Look forward to talking to you again soon, my friend.
Right here on the Liberty.
Great.
I'll talk to you soon, Jake.
All right.
Stay tuned for the rest of the show, folks.
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