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June 15, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back to the second hour of tonight's live broadcast of TBC.
It's Saturday evening, June the 15th.
And we welcome back one of our great heroes and one of my great friends, Dr. Kevin McDonald, a former professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach, the author of several books, including the culture of critique and cultural insurrections.
You can keep up with Dr. McDonald's most recent work at theOccidentalObserver.net, T-O-O.
And of course, Kevin continues to serve as the editor of the Occidental Quarterly Print Journal.
Kevin, great to have you back tonight.
Are you with us, Kevin?
All right, we had Kevin a moment ago.
We'll get Kevin back.
Keith, it looks like you want to say something.
Well, I was just going to say that this is a real perfect storm going on with the Southern Baptist Convention in Birmingham.
They're probably going to conjure up the ghost of Connor.
Oh, it's bad.
I mean, just read all the articles on it.
We only scratched the surface.
I didn't want to even get into the rest of it.
They're probably going to conjure up his ghost or imagine they have and then excommunicate him.
They did you, James.
Well, yeah, he just actually tried to call me on my cell phone, Sam.
So he must have gotten disconnected.
All right, we're going to get Kevin on here in just a moment.
But in any event, yeah, I didn't want to go into the depths of the absurdity of it all.
I was reading some more of the articles that have come out as a result of the convention.
He's talking about a cesspool.
That's it.
You got it.
Well, you know, we got our name from something.
We've got to clean it out.
That's for sure.
And so.
Sunshine is the best disinfect.
All right.
And here to bring us a little sunshine tonight is the aforementioned Dr. McDonald.
Kevin, you just missed a wonderful introduction, but we've got you now, and we're happy to have you.
How are you?
Well, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Even though I didn't hear all of it, it's my fault.
Anyway, great to be here.
Well, it's great to have you back, too.
I just want to make mention before we get started that, as my audience should well know, that you and I are doing a monthly collaboration together on YouTube called TOQ Live.
That's for the Occidental Quarterly, TOQ Live.
And we do it once a month, the first week of every month.
We've been doing it for the last eight months.
So that would, of course, be eight installments.
And I'm looking back on some of the guests that have appeared.
Roger Devlin, Richard Spencer, Ricardo Duchesne, Paul Fromm, Britton Sanderson, Andrew Joyce, and Tom Sunick.
And just from that small representative sampling, Kevin, we have leading lights from Croatia, from the United Kingdom, from Canada, from Australia.
It's really become a very good series.
And of course, you're the large reason for that.
But I would encourage folks to check it out at TOQLive.com.
Yeah, I hope it stays on YouTube given all their taking videos off these days.
But, you know, it's been a great series, really, hasn't.
And Andrew Joyce is going to be on the first week of July.
So it'll be great.
Again.
So it'll be our first repeat guest, and for good reason.
I thought that the interview with Dr. Joyce last month was perhaps, and it's hard to judge because they're all good in different ways, but perhaps the most profound that we've presented.
And anyway, that's TOQLive.com.
I bring that up for a couple of reasons.
That is going to be a theme as we continue on for the rest of the program tonight.
We're going to have Jason Kuna on after you, Kevin, who is going to talk more specifically about the censorship that's going on with YouTube.
I think we endured the biggest mass censorship to date just a few days ago.
And he's going to talk more specifically about that.
You could certainly touch on it as well.
But that censorship really applies across all strata of our society.
And in fact, one of the reasons I wanted to bring up TOQ Live was that one of our guests, Dr. Duchesne, was recently, well, censored or deplatformed in his own way, and in a very serious way.
Can you tell us the story there, Kevin?
Yeah, it's really sad.
Ricardo Duchesne is a great scholar, and he's been under fire from his university because he's attacked university.
He's attacked immigration and multiculturalism.
He's got the, you know, his great book on Western civilization emphasizes the contributions of the West and how unique the West is.
And it's discovery, exploration, inventiveness.
It's Faustian spirit, as he says.
And he's been under attack.
He wrote a book on how immigration and multiculturalism is destroying Canada.
And of course, any criticism of immigration, multiculturalism just sets these people off.
And his own university had like 100 faculty signed a letter against him.
There's one activist in particular that I happen to follow on Twitter just because he's so insane named Sears that is now just joyously happy about all this.
But that's their attitude, censor, just shut it down.
So he finally accepted an offer of early retirement.
And I'm happy to say, though, that he says he's going to be fine financially.
He's not fired from his job, really.
He just took early retirement.
But he just couldn't stand the hostility around the university.
I want to follow up to that point very quickly.
And then Keith has something on how this whole campaign for equality really was a campaign to have us switch places with those who were supposedly oppressed back in the 50s and 60s.
And Keith has a good way to put that very succinctly.
But what I was going to say, Kevin, with regards to Dr. Duchesne is this, and this ties into what I was just making mention of, I guess, but they say that they are all for tolerance and diversity, but there is no tolerance for diversity of opinion or thought, is there?
There is no tolerance for that.
And as I was going to say, he just couldn't stand the hostility going into his office every day and dealing with it.
I mean, I know what it was like.
I did the same thing.
I kept going.
I felt I wouldn't get a very good retirement unless I kept going.
But he just decided, I think it's a good idea to just put that behind him, given that he is financially secure.
And I applaud it.
And now he'll be able to work more.
One of the big issues, actually, was that he had published an Oxford Quarterly.
They kept bringing that up.
And they've noticed, well, Kevin McDonald is the editor.
And that's a horror.
He's a horrible person.
And it's not real scholarship.
And he said it was the only place that he wanted to publish his things because we were open-minded on things like that.
Try to get an article that says something good about Western civilization in these American culture type journals, academic journals.
I mean, you can't do that now.
And so we were the only Avenue of publication open to him.
Well, Kevin, this is Keith Alexander.
There seems to be a premium on being a modern-day Madame DeFarge in academia now.
And the people that are the most shrill and the most unreasoning critics tend to be the all-stars.
You know, it's just, again, the opposite of what a university is supposed to stand for.
It's supposed to stand for allowing people to talk and allowing people to think for themselves and to argue a position.
Well, we're going to take a break.
When we come back, much more with Kevin on the topic of censorship, oppression, suppression.
And we're going to follow up on that theme with our next guest, Jason Kuna, who's going to be coming up at the third and final hour as we focus more exclusively on YouTube from his perspective, but a wider discussion on these very important topics with Dr. Kevin McDonald, the one and only, the incomparable Dr. McDonald.
We'll be right back.
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You know, it's just such a tremendous privilege to be able to have a wealth of resources to call upon for vitally important topics like this, which we are presenting on the AM Radio Airwaves this evening, and to be able to call upon men like Kevin McDonald who are both learned but also experienced with this topic.
We're talking about censorship.
Well, Kevin McDonald has dealt with the kind of effects that come from being a free thinker in this corrupt society, in this society where we face a soft totalitarianism.
And then, of course, later on, we're talking about the censorship of YouTube.
We will talk with one of those content creators who was effectively punished this week.
But Keith, we were talking about something right before the break.
It was the point you wanted to make to Kevin.
I'd like to get his response on that.
Still much more I want to cover with him tonight because this is really one of the biggest topics of our day, and it's got a whole new, taken a whole new life in recent weeks with the increasing censorship that we're seeing.
Hello, how are you doing, Kevin?
Keith Alexander here.
What we were talking about is basically how the left always gets the camel's nose in the tent, and they place their, make their arguments in the most innocuous ways possible to get that camel's nose in the tent.
For example, in the Brown versus Board of Education decision, they argued, we just want children to be able to go to the nearest public school.
And they got, and they obviously had much more than that in mind, as you can see from the past history of Brown and his progeny in the judiciary.
The same way with everything.
The civil rights movement wasn't so much pro-black as it was anti-white.
The women's rights movement was not so much pro-woman as anti-male.
The homosexual rights movement was not so much pro-homosexual as it is anti-heterosexual.
You have had a lot of experience in this.
In fact, you were on the left originally in the civil rights movement.
Tell us about your awakening and how you came to realize the duplicity that was inherent in the leftist march for radical egalitarianism.
Yeah, it took a long time.
In the 60s, I was really pretty radical.
Vietnam War and all those issues, civil rights issues, and all those things I was in favor of it.
But time went on, I became more conservative.
I voted for Reagan, for example.
But then it really wasn't until I started reading up on Jewish influence and realizing that the world didn't have to be this way, that these were not really organic changes, as you might say.
They were imposed.
They were lobbied for.
It was really the result of Jewish activism.
That's really my awakening came in doing the reading for Culture of Critique.
I really didn't know a lot about a lot of these issues, but reading about immigration and reading about Brown versus Board of Education, reading about the Black-Jewish Alliance and how they promoted black causes.
And of course, it's more than just an alliance, I think, Kevin.
It's actually, for example, the NAACP didn't have a black president until the mid-70s when Reverend Benjamin Hooks of Memphis became the leader.
Up until that point, the leader had always been a Jewish male.
And they're always in the vanguard of these movements.
And it's basically, liberalism is basically a Jewish movement.
Is that an overstatement or not?
Well, I think as it developed in the United States in the 20th century, yes.
I mean, the Jews have been the backbone of the left, particularly the radical left.
During the 1950s, they were the ones being hauled up in front of McCarthy-type committees in Congress and prosecuted.
That whole divisiveness of the 1950s at the political level was because of that.
But as you say, I mean, the NACP was started by two Jews early in the 20th century.
They didn't have a black lawyer on the staff until the 1930s, I believe.
And so it's always been funded by Jews.
And it really is motivated by their, they keep trying to make allies of anybody else that they can make allies with.
And so they certainly thought of blacks as possible allies.
Well, they go against white Gentiles more than anything else, and they like to triangulate.
They're only 2% of the population, so they don't go to white Gentiles and say, we hate you.
They say.
No, of course not.
We don't hate you, but we really like black people.
And you've been mistreating black people.
So they triangulate, they use homosexuals, they use women, any other group other than white males, what Paul Craig Roberts called whams, white heterosexual, able-bodied males.
We're the ultimate villain, and we're their target.
Exactly.
If you're 2% of the population, you can't depend on being able to vote your interests in.
You have to make allies.
And so one of the big pushes, besides the black-Jewish alliance, whatever you want to call it, as you say, they have promoted homosexuals, and that could be a force, feminists, where a lot of it is hostility towards whites, towards white males, and especially immigration.
They want all these other groups here.
They have actively sought to make alliances with them, whether they're from the Pacific Islands, China, anywhere.
Even Muslim groups, you know, which are often hostile towards Jewish interests, they have built bridges there.
And I do believe they think that Muslim immigration can be tamed, that it's not really going to be an issue to the Jewish community in the long run.
We'll see.
I mean, it's certainly warning signs for them, like in the UK with the Labor Party, which is a big Muslim constituency.
Well, they're like Captain Ahab in Melville's Moby Dick.
Their hatred for the great white whale is so great that they're willing to sacrifice themselves, their entire crew, and the Pequad in their quest to take us down.
Have you ever figured out why they hate us so much?
Well, their own perspective is rooted in how they see Jewish history, which, by the way, is entirely inaccurate.
This has been one of the things that I wrote about in my book, Separation and Discontents, a history of anti-Semitism.
Andrew Joyce has contributed a lot in recent times to that.
But the idea essentially is that they see Jewish history as one long veil of tears, that they have been persecuted.
And you started out with the Romans sacking the temple, and then you had the early Christian church, and then you had the Middle Ages with the Inquisition, and then you moved into the Enlightenment and the insistence that Jews assimilate.
And then you had the pogroms in Russia and so on.
Then you had the Holocaust.
That's the history that Jews see it.
And they see themselves as entirely blameless.
Any accusation that you make is absolutely irrational and is some kind of psychiatric disorder.
And they really don't want to hear about the realities of what these anti-anti-Jewish movements were all about over historical time.
Kevin, I want to recircle or refocus the conversation.
And everything you and Keith has been talking about has been great content, but I want to focus on censorship just for a moment and get your opinions on what, if anything, our people can do, or at least what attitude they should have in the face of this censorship.
I mean, of course, we don't have the power to force YouTube to treat us fairly, but we can have an attitude going forward that would serve us well.
But we only had you booked for 30 minutes.
Do you have a few extra minutes or do you need to fly?
I can say a few extra minutes.
Sure.
All right, if you could just say a couple of extra minutes past the next break, I promise we won't keep you too much longer because I don't like to ask people to stay on the fly where you have to give an answer on the air.
But I just think that this conversation is so important and to have you on a little bit longer would be good.
But what I was going to say was, there are other professors out there like you.
I mean, maybe not as good as you, but there are other, I know, and I'm sure you do too, other professors in academia who are with us on the issues.
But what they see, I mean, they see what happens to Kevin McDonald.
They see what happens to Ricardo Duchesne, and censorship directly leads to suppression.
They don't hide their line under a bush.
Nobody wants to be inconvenienced.
Nobody wants to lose a job.
And just mull that over for a second.
I'm going to tie that in with pathological altruism and whites seemingly the need for whites to have social status and validation as something that is key to their survival.
We'll talk about that very briefly and then we'll let you go, Kevin.
But stay tuned, everybody.
Kevin MacDonald, TheOccidentalObserver.net, POQLive.com.
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One more segment with Kevin McDonald, and just to tie up a couple of loose ends.
One of the things we were talking about was that we were told the drumbeat was for equality.
And once everybody had equality in this country, everything would be perfect.
Well, then once the minorities got their equality, we saw the mask come off.
And apparently the agenda the whole time was that we trade places with them, not that we necessarily be equal to them with regards to rights.
And this goes into the censorship.
We see now whites are beginning to assume the position that they believe they had back in the 50s and 60s.
So there's that.
New Kulaks, as I think Dr. McDonald said before.
And so we know that censorship leads to suppression.
We know that a lot of people, I still think, Kevin, the majority of white people at least fundamentally agree with us on some baseline level because even liberals, as Joe Sobrin said, when you monitor their mating and migratory habits, they're indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan, which is a funny way to put that.
They live in majority white neighborhoods too, for the most part.
So anyway, we've got all of that, but they take a couple of heads and it has a chilling effect on other people who would be out and looking at these issues, issues like pathological altruism and how that's been able to have been manipulated in whites and of course whites need for social status.
You know, I would challenge anyone to go up to a black man or a Jewish man or any non-white man and say, in order for you to truly be moral, you have to be as anti-black or as anti-Jewish as you can.
And only then can you be a decent person.
It would never work, but it works in our people.
And so, Kevin, as we move forward, what is the mentality that whites should have?
I mean, yes, somebody, if we're going to turn this thing around, somebody's going to have to be inconvenienced.
Somebody may have to lose a job.
Somebody may have to actually sacrifice something.
But how do we embolden our people to face those fears?
How do we maneuver around the pathological altruism that has been triggered amongst us?
And how do we get rid of this need to be pat on the head by the other in order to have our own validation?
That's a tall order.
It's a very tall order, and you know, I think we are prone to wanting to be liked more than most people.
We don't, we can establish our small in-groups as you and I are members of some societies and we're all on the same page.
But it's hard for people out there, and they are facing job loss, they're facing loss of family, loss of friendships, and it's daunting to say the least.
Very difficult.
On the other hand, I do think that white people are gradually waking up, at least at a sort of implicit level, where they are associating with each other.
As you say, liberals act in some ways like the Ku Klux Klan.
One difference, though, is that these liberals study that they actually have more favorable attitudes towards out-groups than their own in-group.
It's like they sort of hate their own in-group.
But of course, a lot of that is just what they say to other people.
They still live in those neighborhoods.
They still associate with those people with their own types.
And so, but I do think we are coalescing.
And the more anti-white hate we see out there, and we see more and more of it.
I think it's hard to avoid this now.
Even in the Washington Post, New York Times, but certainly on Huffington Post, Slate, these kind of left-wing publications, the anti-white hate is just frothing out there.
And I think it's hard for white people not to pick up on that.
And if you don't say to yourself, well, yeah, I'm guilty about all that, because most white people, hey, we never owned slaves.
We never did any of this stuff.
And we've never, you know, even discriminated in any invidious way or called people dangerous or any of that stuff.
But we're supposed to feel guilty and we're supposed to just allow ourselves to be taken over.
Well, that's not going to work anymore.
We already see 60% of the white population born Republican, which is, you know, obviously the Republican Party is not exactly the panacea here.
But it means that they're identifying more as a white.
It's the white people's party now.
And we have to hope we can redirect it, that someone after Trump will even be, you know, better at this, have a better grasp of the issues and really, you know, follow through on what needs to be done.
Because I think there is a coming majority, a good majority of white people that will be on board with it.
And the problem is, of course, demographics.
I mean, we're being swamped by intentionally so.
And it is an open question whether this can become about by democratic means.
I hope it could, but the alternative is that we really will have to make some sacrifices or it's not going to happen.
And this world is going to be a very dark place.
So we have to.
So white privilege, let me just say this.
White privilege is their new strategy for demonizing all white people, regardless of whether they have ever had anyone in their ancestral line as a slave owner or anything else.
Basically, just by being white, you have advantages.
And as a result, they are justified in hating you.
Yeah, absolutely.
But, you know, if you tell that to the average working class guy, they're saying, how privileged am I?
You know, I'm really not very privileged.
You know, they don't see themselves that way.
And why should they?
They're working hard.
They're not getting paid that much.
You know, they have to struggle to even keep it going.
Well, it's hard to translate that.
When you see so many blacks who are going to elite schools and getting admitted with low test scores, when you see blacks because you have an affirmative action and great jobs, but very little talent and that sort of thing.
You know something's wrong here.
That this really is an anti-white regime here now.
And it's not in the interest of white people.
It's pretty obvious.
Time to be the little boy that tells the emperor he has no clothes.
And it's like I say, we're living in a civilizational reenactment of that fable.
So this is where we're at.
But Kevin, I want to thank you again for setting an example for good men to follow, for making sacrifices, for gifting your talents to the side of the dissident.
And it's at a time when it's uncomfortable to do so.
Standing up and being counted when it counts.
That's absolutely right.
And, of course, you know, I'm sure you know how well respected you are by our audience and by our people, by all good men, I guess.
But to have the respect of your peers is something that I value.
And I want you to know that you've got it in spades from us.
And again, we try to showcase the people who are doing it.
And you're certainly at the tip of the spear.
So we thank you.
We thank you for yet another wonderful interview here on our program.
I don't know how many times you've been on.
Probably, I don't know, 100 or more over the years, but they're always good.
Hey, it's always a pleasure, James.
You guys are a great force on our side.
You really are.
It's a very professionally produced radio show, and I'm just so happy you guys are making a go of it.
That's terrific.
Well, 15 years, Kevin, as you know, and you've been a part of it for the bulk of that run.
And, you know, knock on wood, God willing, we'll have quite a few more years to add to that ticker.
But we will talk to you again very soon, my friend.
I know I'll be on with you for TOQ Live, first week of July.
And like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if we talk on the phone or email in between now and then.
But however it happens, I'll look forward to it, and I'll hasten the day, and we'll talk to you again soon.
Thanks for staying a few extra minutes with us tonight.
Great.
No problem.
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Keith, your thoughts on another great interview with Dr. McDonald?
Look, he's like Midler said, he's the wind beneath our wings.
I think she was singing about him.
Look, he not only talks and talk, but walks and walk.
He has had to suffer the slings and arrows of the left because he has a job that, by definition, you can't just proclaim yourself to be an academic.
You have to work with universities or with schools of somehow, some type.
And because you have to be an employee, you're going to be a big target.
And most people decide to, the expeditious thing to do is hide their light under a bushel.
But Dr. McDonald is so professional and so much a man cut from the old cloth that he's not going to do that.
He's going to speak out and suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
He's done it.
He's come.
He's like a Time X watch.
He takes a licking, but keeps on ticking.
And again, we've identified all 50 of those people in the country, and that's why they are on our regular guest rotation.
But no, I mean, obviously there are a lot more than that, but we try to pick the people that are at the tip of their particular issue or field.
Well, like we say, or like you've said in the past, James, if you're not catching flack, you're not over the target.
And believe me, Dr. McDonald's caught plenty of flack.
He certainly has.
He is the, I would say, the bombardier, but we don't want to infringe on Eddie's trademark.
But he's been there.
We'll be right back.
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Well, another great interview with Kevin McDonald in the books, and Jason Kuna will be our guest at the top of the third hour, followed by the weekly contributions of our regular correspondent, Jack Ryan.
That's still coming in the third hour.
We're going to talk to Jason a little more about the censorship, specifically as it applies to YouTube and his reaction to that, and get an update on what all he's been working on.
But first, I made mention at the very top of the show that this is the middle of the month that is in the middle of the year.
I mean, we are smack dab there, June 15th.
So that would also mean, of course, if you're keeping track at home, that we are halfway through our second quarter fundraising drive.
So we are right there at the halfway mark still, two weeks to go, and we do need your continued support.
We have not reached our goal yet.
We are on our way.
Got off to a really quick start.
Had a little lull, as it typically does after we announce it, a little lull.
A lot of people wait till it gets a little closer to deadline, which is, of course, June 30th.
But there's no time like the present.
There's no time like right now to support a good cause.
And we're just going to do, I always like doing this, Keith.
We only do it during our quarterly fundraising month.
We're just going to rattle off a few of the locations across the country and around the world where we have received support so far this month.
From donors.
From our donors in support of the second quarter fundraising drive.
How about those donors in Jersey City, New Jersey, Alberta, Canada, San Marcos, California, Moravia, New York, Riverview, Florida, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Thomasville, Georgia, Cockeysville, Maryland, Nunnelly, Tennessee,
Rockville, Maryland, Callahan, Florida, the United Kingdom, Beaumont, Texas, Efredo, Washington, Jonesboro, Arkansas, Green Valley, Arizona, Salt Lake City, Utah, Sherwood, Arkansas, University Park, Texas, Jackson, Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, Loves Park, Illinois, Winnipeg, Manitoba.
Pretty good cross-section so far.
That's just some of the cities from which we've received support.
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We'll put it on the roll called the Hall of Fame.
Europe and Scandinavia, another part of Europe.
We're waiting to hear from you.
Well, we did get the UK.
The UK is weighed in.
But I'm talking about Norway, Sweden, Lithuania, places like that.
We need them all because we've got Finland, we've got people that listen to us in all those places.
Well, we sure do.
Australia, I mean, they are indeed all over the world, all the way down into Central and South America even.
But this is an incentive.
And of course, we do have to spend a little bit of time talking about it each week when we're doing one of these active fundraising drives.
The incentive is very special to me.
You know, we were talking about some of this earlier in the show and how things have changed.
And God knows things have changed.
But to actually have this audio CD of our historic interview with Drew Lackey, I mean, a man who is right there in the middle of all of that in Birmingham, Alabama.
No less.
Now we were talking about the Southern Baptist Convention had its 162nd meeting in Birmingham this week.
And what a disaster for all intents and purposes.
What an embarrassment.
I guess it wasn't a disaster by their standards.
I mean, they did exactly what they wanted to do.
We'll try to hear a total rewrite of history, though.
As they look back, the Southern Baptists will all be heroes or whatnot, or else if there are bad ones that can be identified, like if Bull Connor, for example.
Well, let's just keep it right here.
Drew Lackey.
Do you think Drew Lackey, Drew Lackey only died a few years ago?
Do you think he'd be welcomed into that?
No, he would probably excommunicate along with your church, the Lighthouse Baptist Church and James.
And see, why aren't other historians going to Drew Lackey?
Or why didn't they go to Drew Lackey while he was still here with us on earth to get his version?
I mean, how many books?
How many books?
That's an excellent point, Keith.
How many books have been written on the so-called civil rights movement?
And I don't know any that interviewed him because he said this is the only interview he's done.
He gave a speech at the council.
I mean, he may have done, I know he did a couple of appearances, some book signings, some stuff that he put together, you know, in the local community, but major radio and television.
But when all was said and done, more was said than done.
In fact, nobody from the mainstream wanted to hear his voice.
His voice was to be forgotten and buried along with his bones, as Mark Anthony said with Julius Caesar in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
But we took the initiative, as you said, took the bull by the horns.
That was Jerry Lee Lewis.
Yeah, that was right.
Jerry Lee Lewis said that.
And James liked it, though.
Yeah, I sure did.
So what we did was take the bull by the horns and get him down on record for posterity.
Now, that's the type of activity where we're doing the work that other historians and other media figures in America won't do.
We'll do it, and we need to be supported so we can continue to do it.
It was one of the many incredible interviews we have presented to you over the course of the last 15 years.
And I mean, you just heard another one with one of our regulars or one of our contemporaries, Dr. McDonald.
But there are these hidden gems littered throughout our archives, like the Drew Lackey interview.
Anyway, $100 or more to cut to the chase.
$100 or more.
We need your support to continue to bring you the guests like you've heard tonight and we'll be hearing in the next hour with Jason Kuna.
Important voices for our people.
But that was an interesting one.
Drew Lackey, he talks about his interactions, his personal dealings with Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks.
Of course, he was the one who was photographed fingerprinting Rosa Parks after her arrest.
He was a big player as a member of the police.
He was at ground zero when he was in.
Birmingham, Alabama.
Yeah, I mean, that is it.
I mean, that is the epicenter of it all.
So what he says in that interview, if the History Channel was interested in truly representing history, if not in agreement, they should have at least let a man like this have his say.
But of course, they don't do that.
That's why we've been here for 15 years because we do the job the media won't refuse.
The medium is the message, and they control the medium.
They've been doing it ever since Brown versus Board of Education, and they're not letting up.
If anything, they're getting even more censorious, as we see with all this social platform deprogramming or deplatforming that is going on in America today.
They cannot tolerate an honest dissident view.
We hope to be able to read a lot more cities next week, but we do need your support.
And truly, folks, it all helps.
$5, $10, $25.
The political cesspool has been kept on the air by and large with donations from our listening audience.
We're 100% public supported, listener supported.
$100 or less.
I mean, that's it.
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Obviously, if you can give more, it helps more, but it all helps, and it all helps a lot.
So check us out.
Make the contribution.
We'll send you that CD.
If you donate $200 or more, you're going to get the CD interview with Chief Alackey the summer 2019 issue of the Occidental Quarterly, edited by, you know, it, Kevin McDonald, who you just heard from.
So that's what's going on.
Kevin McDonald's specialty is Jewish power and influence.
That's our two most taboo topics that we tackle here are race and Jewish power and influence.
He is the go-to guy on Jewish power and influence.
Read his books, and you'll not get anything but the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth from Kevin McDonald.
Every week when I tell Keith Kevin's going to be on, it's like you push the on button on the back of a robot.
Keith's antennas go up.
His buttons start his lights.
Yeah, his lights start blinking.
He gets excited.
Because, of course, it's a topic near and dear to Keith's heart as well.
Well, Keith, we've got about three minutes left this segment now that we've done our obligatory fundraising thing.
We don't do it because we like it.
We do it because we have to, folks.
If we didn't need the money, we wouldn't ask for it, and you know that.
But we do need it, and we do hope to have it.
And we do hope that you'll continue to support it.
We hope that you believe that we're giving you a product worthy of support more than anything.
But, Keith, two minutes, how do you want to wrap up this hour before we go to Jason?
Well, let's just talk about, for example, the Jewish power and influence in the civilians movement, things like this.
You know, we were talking about the NAACP and the fact that it was founded in 1909, but didn't have a black head until the mid-70s.
Well, you'll also notice that about the mid-70s, at that point on, the NAACP has been a paper tiger.
The only time you hear about it is when they're either having a sexual scandal or a financial scandal.
Well, I think the biggest thing I've heard from them in recent years was the whole white woman pretending to be black.
I can't even, Dolezal, Rachel Dolezal.
Yeah, another, you know, obvious, obviously mentally ill person who's trying to, who's now being passed as somebody who we are.
She was smart enough to know how to make a buck in modern-day America.
I mean, you know, yeah, just that the golden road to fame and fortune is to disown your own kind, apparently, if you're a white person, a white Gentile.
So no other group has that requirement.
Basically, the way you get wealthy is to pile on to white Gentiles.
And that's what other groups have done, like that race to dinner that you were telling us about last week.
That was, you know, in other words, a black person can get wealthy by offering to come to someone's house, eating their food, and castigating them and railing against them.
Then apparently there's enough women out there, enough white women willing to pay that they can market it and make a living.
Yeah, well, you know, look, mental illness, there is a great unmet need for psychiatric services, apparently, in the wealthier quarters of white America.
Well, except if you went into a garden variety psychiatrist, they'd say, yes, this is something you need to do.
I'm so glad you're, you know, you've come up with this self-home therapy that all women should be doing this.
You know, you'd hear something like that.
Of course, that goes back to homosexuality.
1973, homosexuality was listed by mental illness, as we like to say it still is, but no longer an officially listed one.
Political correctness took care of that.
So, you know, and it always goes further and further.
It cannot be more absurd.
Now, transgenderism is in vogue.
The thing where you have these transgendered or transvestite or whatever they are dressed like a demon, reading children's books at the local library to the kiddies.
I mean, this is something that the library and the Chamber of Commerce and the local town government is all, you know, thinks wonderful.
Not only do they support it, they put pictures up celebrating it.
So, anyway, Jason Kuna is next.
We're going to talk about YouTube censorship.
Another hour of the political cesspool is in the can, but don't go away.
There's more to come right here on the Liberty News Radio Network.
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