May 25, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome, everybody, to tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
It's Saturday evening, May the 25th.
It is Memorial Day weekend.
What are we doing tonight?
Let me check.
Oh, yeah.
We've got Jared Taylor tonight at the third hour.
He's going to be talking to us about last week's American Renaissance Conference.
He's back home now, so he's not at Montgomery Bell.
We'll be able to get a hold of him.
TPC longtime listener Courtney from Alabama is going to be on to talk about showcasing pride in America on Memorial Day weekend.
Is it even possible to do that in this degenerate day and age?
But first, before we get to any of that and other current events and news items that have come across our desk this week, I wanted to make an announcement, let you know that on Monday morning, I signed on to be featured in a major television production that will be aired prime time on a program that has a viewership of 3 million people.
Now, I can't go into more detail than that at this time, except to tell you that, well, I put it on the website this week that the production crew is going to be flying into Tennessee later this month for filming.
I'm actually going to be meeting with them on Monday on Memorial Day.
We're going to start filming my parts.
And so, you know, of course, whenever such opportunities like this become available, you never lose sight that none of it would be possible without the loyal support of our listening audience, of our network staff, and, of course, all of you, ladies and gentlemen, our fellow listeners.
I can give voice to these issues because you make that possible.
3 million people in the audience.
Nervous?
Folks, I was born for this.
We don't get nervous.
I don't have to do this.
I've said before, I get to do this.
And over the last 15 years, few in our ranks have been able to do more in the media than TPC has been able to do.
CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, hundreds of others.
It's been a very exciting ride.
Live television, national, local, taped, newspapers, magazines, God knows radio.
But with all that experience, you do get a little bit of knowledge.
And of course, as you know, I jealously guard the image we present, the image that we reflect on our movement.
And I selectively pick and choose which interviews we do and which we decline.
Of course, that never stops.
Not as I can remember.
I've shared the story before in the campaign in 2016.
We were flipping through channels.
My wife and I were.
There was a whole panel on CNN, a whole panel dedicated to talking about the fact that I had tweeted out something favorable about Mike Pence at the time.
I can't imagine what that would have been, but imagine a panel on network news discussing the ramifications of a tweet that we sent out.
But you always want to decide whether or not the cause can benefit.
The cause is greater than me or any one of us.
We are just stewards of this cause.
So we want to exercise good judgment with regards to what media we do and which we don't.
And, of course, I've famously declined most requests.
Some of them go very well.
The series of interviews with Serge Kovaleski at the New York Times, some we decline, some we decline with a little bit of sass, I guess you could say.
But a lot of people play fast and loose with the media, that any publicity is good publicity, they think, and a lot of people are no longer with us.
We know better.
Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn and no other, said Benjamin Franklin.
Well, we've graduated from that school a long time ago, and you learn how the media is, and in many cases, the risk is not worth the reward.
There's no great financial windfall.
But it just doesn't work that way.
And it's never an exact science.
But there were things about this particular request, the one that I signed on for earlier this week, that leads me to believe that it's going to be worth my time, and it's going to be something that I think our cause will benefit from.
I talked with one of the producers a couple of times this week, the director I spoke with for an hour yesterday, and I'll be meeting with her at 9 o'clock on Monday morning.
So I'll keep you posted as I am able, as I am able.
But an audience of 3 million people is a rare opportunity indeed.
We'll see where it goes.
You ask, well, how do you know which media request to do and which to decline?
You just put your finger on the pulse of the request and see what happens.
But again, folks, I'm excited about this one.
I think you'll be excited about it when you learn more.
And I will tell you more again, as I said, when I am able.
But what we're accomplishing here together on this show, our staff, our audience, this network is monumental, and our collective voice here at TPC remains at the tip of the spear.
And of course, a lot of that is due to the support we received from Sam Bushman, our owner.
And I think Sam is there with us right now.
Just, Sam, before we get to Courtney, Courtney from Alabama, who's going to be anchoring our first hour with us, your thoughts on the media.
I know I think you were the first one that I shared news of this with, and what's going on here at this network and how this network continues to remain relevant as time marches on.
You know, this 3 million listener or viewer audience that you have almost rivals ours, James.
Not quite, but it's got to be.
And the second thing that I would say is this, you know, they used to be able to spin us into a corner very easy.
We're getting enough listenership.
We're getting bold enough.
We're getting good enough at forcing them to retract.
We're getting good enough at getting in their face and politely putting them in traps.
And we're getting bold enough to state our cause effectively to the point where they can't have their way with us like they used to.
And they know it.
And so they hesitate.
But the right ones are starting to engage.
And enough of them are starting to realize, you know what, we are to be reckoned with.
And they realize this, and they're starting to treat us a little bit more favorably in many ways as a result.
Well, that's absolutely right.
And I'll tell you, there was a bit of, I don't know if you want to call it deference or respect, but quite respectful in the way that we were approached this.
Now, sometimes they do put the shine on you, and sometimes they do, they are duplicitous, and they come at you with that, and you learn how to navigate that as well.
But again, everything about the experience I've had over these 15 years leads me to believe that this is going to be a wonderful opportunity for us and certainly an opportunity to reach a lot of people.
And you never want to have the power out of your control with creative editing and what hits the cutting room floor and what doesn't.
And I do typically not do taped television programs because of this.
But like I said, we'll see.
Anyway, the bottom line is we probably spent too much time talking about it already.
But I did want to come in with that right out of the gate to let the people know that this is going on.
Of course, we always share with our audience.
We are very open and transparent here on TPC.
We share with our audience the news of things that are happening and how we are able to apply what we do here, even outside of the studios from time to time.
Of course, Sam, you're always a big boy.
You can come on the TV with them and say things like this.
Are you afraid of your own shadow?
Are you afraid to stand up and be white?
Are you willing to talk about race and be a realist?
Are you willing to talk about who we are and what we stand for?
And I think when we learn to speak like that in ways that put them on the defensive, we gain ground.
If they talk about us being pro-life or abortion issues, you just literally say, are you pro-death?
Are you pro-death?
And we need to learn to use phrases and words that literally put them on the defensive.
And I'm telling you, when we do, they can't handle the heat.
I have seen you do that a time or two.
Folks, I got to tell you, I have been privy to some conversations that Sam has had with reporters, and I have never seen reporters get that twisted up.
This guy does it.
He does exactly what he's saying.
That's that Midwesterner, you know, that the Midwesterner.
What'd you call yourself?
Mountain Western?
Are you a Mountain Man, Sam?
I can't.
Are you just a Westerner?
I'm all mixed together, buddy.
I'm talking about the best.
All right, buddy.
He's a New Yorker, too.
You do.
All right, Sam.
Thank you, buddy.
That's it for the announcements.
Let's get to the show.
By the way, I'm crazy with James, and we stand behind him a thousand percent.
Great work, sir.
Thank you, buddy.
I really don't want to talk about this, but I will.
I'm just so mad.
I didn't get asked to the junior prom, and it's raining, which means by the time I get to school, I'm soaking wet.
Dad picked me up just after I left, and I was so mad I got out and he said, Wait, your mom said to give you this.
I forgot my lunch money, and then I dropped it in the water, and I was late for history.
And so at lunchtime, I had to find something on Jon Stewart Mill, which, of course, our library didn't have.
So I had to walk all the way down to the office to call my mom, and she found something on the internet and called me back.
And Karen, she wouldn't even help me, and that's a whole nother story.
But dad helped me conjugate nouns or whatever on the way to the swim team workout.
And then he read my history paper while I was in the pool.
And of course, I forgot the bibliography.
So I had to do that with my mother when I got home.
And it made me totally forget that I put my jeans in the washer that morning.
And I hate it when they sit wet like that all day and smell like mildew.
But my mom said she put them in the dryer while I was at the swim team.
And you know, I'm just not going to go to the prom no matter who asks me.
I just want to stay home with my mom and dad and just hang out.
Isn't it about time?
Unless Dustin asks me.
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One, two, three, five!
I'm Courtney from Alabama.
We decided to dig into our Beatles archives tonight and pull out that little number.
Courtney, of course, has the mistaken belief that the Beatles were a superior rock band to the four seasons.
Paul McCartney was good, but let's face it, he was no Frankie Valley.
But we've also known Courtney since she was about 17, so just another reason to play that song.
Courtney, it's been a lot of years, and we're thankful that you're still with us.
How are you?
I am good.
Thank you once again for having me on.
The band there.
I just, yeah, Sam.
Okay.
It's great to have you back.
Thank you.
To start off with something a little funny, let's let the audience know.
I texted James first thing this morning panicking because I didn't have much of a voice.
I had a scratchy throat the day before, and then that resulted in me waking up this morning with no voice for some reason.
So I texted him.
I was like, I don't think I can do it tonight.
And what's funny about it is I'm a little self-conscious in general about how I sound on the radio.
Whenever I go back and listen, I sound my voice sounds so much lower than it really is.
And I'm thinking, gosh, I hope the audience who hasn't seen me doesn't think I'm this big butch woman or something.
But that's what I sound like when I go back and listen.
I'll confirm that you're not.
We'll call Eddie and get him to describe it.
We'll play that tape for you.
You remember that show?
But yeah, I was about to, I was about to, you know, come on here and maybe whisper the whole time, kind of like what the liberal women on NPR do.
That probably, you know.
Oh, you're doing fine.
Thank you.
So I guess we wanted to open up with a quick comment about the Alabama abortion bill.
Yeah, so of course we talked about this for an hour last week, it seems, but you are from Alabama and you are a woman.
So just 60 seconds or less.
Tell us what you think about it.
You know, I'm sure y'all already covered the statistics on how it's really only, it's really only a tiny percentage of reported abortions are from rape and everything.
So you probably went over that part.
But I'm going to say something quick about the incest part.
On Facebook, all the liberals and social media, all the liberals, they had a field day.
When they see the words incest next to the word Alabama, they had a field day with that.
They have this impression that everybody here has married their sister.
And I'm born and raised here.
And I've never met anybody that's done that.
In fact, it probably happens here just as much as anywhere else.
Actually, if you go to places like New York City these days, I'm sure it happens more there, considering who they're letting come there.
Good point.
I mean, it's like, you know, I mean, these, you know, the stuff about the rape and incest, it's probably such a tiny percentage of incidents.
And the thing is, is the people complaining about these poor rape victims and everything, they're the same people who think women should be able to abort for any reason, whether the woman was raped or not.
So it doesn't matter, you know, to them anyway.
So it was just all ridiculous.
And, you know, the bill covers for women who have a health issue, and that would cover a good portion of the rape victims, too, you know.
So there's that.
It's just, it's really, it really only leaves a tiny portion of women who would have a problem, you know.
Well, we talked about it at length.
We talked about, of course, you know, in this day and age, what is rape and what isn't in the Me Too era?
Anybody could just say they were raped and then, you know, get an abortion or file a false police report.
Yeah.
But overall, I'm sure you find it to be favorable, as did I.
But there was one other thing, Courtney, that came out of Alabama this week, and we got to get started on the main topic.
But Alabama public television, I'll tell you, Alabama is serious about protecting its children.
They don't want people to murder them, and they don't want them to be subjected to degenerate programming.
The Alabama Public Television refused to air an episode of a long-running PBS children's program because it featured a same-sex marriage.
So this is a TV show called Arthur, which aired in the United States last Monday.
Author is, I think, they're like rodents that go to school.
And anyway, the show's titular character and his friends attended the homosexual wedding of their teacher, Mr. Ratburn, who married a local chocolate maker.
But rather than air the episode, Alabama Public Television has decided to cut it, and they said that they will not air it at a later date.
So I say that seems like a sensible approach to me.
Good for Alabama.
And between the strict pro-life legislation had recently passed, it seems as though Alabama is serious about protecting its children.
Let me make a comment on that.
Yeah, go kid.
This is exactly what our ancestors did with these censor boards.
Like in Memphis, I had a gentleman named Lloyd Binford, who is an insurance executive, that headed up a censor board, and that basically kept Hollywood in line up until the late 50s when all of these guys died off.
And Hollywood made such a big stink.
They were, of course, portraying themselves as the defenders of the First Amendment.
And consequently, these censor boards died.
But I'd love to see a revival of the censor boards.
And it sounds like Alabama, again, is leading the path for us on that.
And don't let your kids watch Arthur, Courtney.
It's a shame because, you know, PBS, you know, seems like it could have some good stuff on it, but it's really one of the most liberal stations for kids now.
It's a shame.
You cannot let the television babysit your children.
That's a message to all the parents out there.
All right, now, let's get to the main event.
Let's get to the main event 30 minutes into the hour.
I got to tell you, folks, Courtney contacted me way back in March with an idea that I could not wait to sink my teeth into.
I have been actually counting down the days we could have her on.
She says she wanted to wait till Memorial Day or the 4th of July.
And I said, well, let's do Memorial Day because it comes sooner.
And so here's what I'm going to read you word for word what she sent me.
She said, James, I have a topic for you and Keith that you would strongly relate to.
Being descendants of the founding stock, we have been forced into an identity crisis.
Despite what many may say, America did have a core race and culture that went away after the war between the states due to immigration.
Many would expand the cutoff point to the early 60s or even the 80s since America was still mostly white then.
But as far as Anglo-Saxon America goes, it started disappearing after the war.
The question is, is this the question, folks, is showing pride in early America a lost cause in this day and age?
Is it so far gone that we can't get it back?
Courtney, let's start with you there.
What was it about this particular topic that led you to decide to pitch it as a show idea?
And what is your answer to that question?
Well, I tend to be one of the optimists in the movement.
And, you know, we look over at Europe and we see so much hope over there because, you know, each country over there is basically an ethnic group.
And a lot of times we get discouraged here because we think that they have a lot more to fight for over there and they have their political parties and everything more representative of what they want over there, whereas we just have two parties over here.
And, you know, and they're basically just one, traditionally, just one ethnic group in each country or the majority of each country traditionally.
And the question is, you know, do we have an American white ethnic group that is still worth preserving, or is it far gone by this point?
And I say, yes, we do still have something to work with.
I don't think it's so far gone that we can't still, you know, be a little bit proud on the 4th of July Memorial Day, you know, for the right reasons, not the wrong reasons, obviously.
But I still think we have something to work with moving forward to save.
And let's see, I'm looking at my notes here.
Hold on a second.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's see.
Okay.
Well, one of the things that you just, that a lot of people have to do before they get too negative and depressed is they need to do research on this nation of immigrants myth and how to dispel it and look at the facts on why it's not an accurate myth or why it's not an accurate story.
There's many articles online that dispel this myth.
You can just Google Nation of Immigrants myth and you'll see all sorts of stuff pop up.
Jared Taylor did a podcast on this in the past.
American Conservative did an article on it.
And they all make similar reports.
And okay, I guess we'll pick up after the break.
She's a true pro, Keith.
She's already on the queue.
She's been on our show enough to know what happens when the music starts.
All right, we're going to take a break.
The question from Courtney, the primary topic this hour: is short pride in America a lost cause in this day and age?
I'm going to continue with Courtney.
Keith's going to weigh in heavily.
So much more to come on TPC, including the aforementioned Jared Taylor.
He's in the third hour.
Stay tuned.
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All right, back with Courtney from Alabama.
We are really going to kick it into high gear here with only a couple of segments left.
This is a very provocative topic, one that I've really been looking forward to.
We've got to get Keith to weigh in.
Keith's been eating French fries from Wendy's for the last 30 seconds.
I was going to say 30 minutes, but anyway, the question is: is showing pride in early America a lost cause in this day and age?
Is it so far gone we can't get it back?
Well, of course, you know, Courtney, you look back on America, even up until the last 20 years, if anyone thought of an American, anyone from any part of the world, they thought of what was an American American was a white person.
And you think of the sacrifices of our founders, that is always worthy of showing pride in.
But, you know, as I was talking about during the break with Sam, is it Rah-Rah, wave the flag?
Whatever the American government does, we have to show pride in, no matter how illegal, no matter how important, no matter how degenerate and evil, even when the American, even when America itself is the betrayer, no, you don't show pride in America.
I've got a lot more to say, but Courtney, go to you.
Then I want to go to Keith, and then I'm really going to go into this pretty hardcore.
Okay.
Yeah, back to, and I agree with you on that.
There's a lot that we don't, we aren't, we don't need to cheer over.
But anyways, yeah, these articles like Jared Taylor's podcast, the American Conservative article on dispelling the nation of immigrant myth.
You know, it's pretty much common knowledge, especially in this movement, that there was, without a doubt, a solid American ethnicity, you know, from the nation founding up through the Civil War.
You know, it was largely Anglo and Protestant.
And then, let's see.
And, you know, there's this common myth now, you know, and that's the base that we have to start with.
That core group that was basically, you know, what this country was made of all the way through the Civil War.
That even in this day and age, that's where a lot of our institutions come from, our language, founding documents, you know, all these, whether we like it or not, a lot of what we live by still comes from that period and those people.
And another thing is as far as the people themselves and their descendants, you know, liberals want to perpetrate this idea that, you know, that group is no longer relevant, that our numbers are so tiny now.
Well, I'd like to say a few things about that.
First of all, the founding stock and its descendants, it's actually still a lot larger than these censuses report because a lot of white people are more likely to report their most recent ancestry, like Polish or German, when the fact of the matter is they also probably have some founding stock heritage because the different white groups mixed a lot.
And another, this is an interesting point that was brought up in the American Conservative article.
If there was no immigration after, you know, like from like, I won't even go into the Civil War, like, you know, the founding period in the 1700s.
If there was no immigration from that time forward after the American Revolution, our population, well, as of 1993, which I think was when the article was written, our population would still be 50% of what it would have been in 1993, even if nobody had immigrated here, you know, from the founding period.
And I want to say real quickly, this is not, I'm not trying to exclude anybody who's not descended from a founder because, you know, I basically include anybody in this group, you know, no matter when your ancestors came here, I include you in this group.
If you're European descended and you have, you know, you have pride in the nation's founding and, you know, you're a good conservative like we are, you know, those of us who listen to this program.
So I'm not trying to exclude anybody based on a, you know, white ethnicity or anything.
But, you know, if you if your ancestors came later and you agree with what we talked about on this show and you, you know, and you love early America and what it stood for, then, you know, you're included in this group just as much.
And the thing is, is even after even after the Civil War, when there were different periods of immigration, you know, up until 1965, you know, there was always a period where immigrants came in from Europe exclusively.
And they only made up a tiny percentage of the population.
And then there was a long period where they were allowed to assimilate.
And so we were never really a nation of immigrants.
And then, you know, in 1965, this all changed where they just opened the floodgates and anybody and everybody can come wealth except white people.
And so, you know, it really is a myth that throughout most of our history, we were a nation of immigrants.
And the fact of the matter is up until 1965 and even after, we were still largely a very, I mean, we're still the majority.
I mean, we were, but the people who founded this country still live on in most of us.
And, you know, as far as an American ethnicity, it's worth saving.
You know, I think we can still do it.
And we have to also remember that pretty much anybody who came here who's non-white after 1965, I mean, according to the founders, they really don't belong here.
So I think we have just as much of a right as the Europeans do to try to, you know, to have something to try to reclaim at this point.
And I guess that's, I guess that's enough from me for now.
Very well put.
Keith, and honestly, Courtney, that was very well put and very well put together.
Keith, I want to pose the question to you or repose it to you.
Is showing pride in early America a lost cause in this day and age?
So far we can't get it back.
Well, it depends on how you measure success.
If success is getting our own people to understand the merits and the virtues of the founders who shared their ethnic makeup, it's not at all a lost college.
if you're trying to get reaffirmation or validation about the founding stock of America from the news media, the entertainment media, from academia.
No, you're not going to get any type of, it is lost cause to get them to join our side because there's 2% of the American population that controls all of these institutions.
And these institutions are basically anti-white, anti-white Gentile in every regard.
But we're going to have to learn to disregard what's on the television, what's on the newspapers, what's coming out of denominational headquarters for our Christian churches, what is coming out of academia.
All of these things are that they're not going to change anytime soon.
But we need to have alternative sources like the political cesspool, like American Renaissance, like Occidental Observer, and all sorts of other so-called alt-right news sources.
And we need to pay attention to those because those are the ones that have the best interests of our people at heart.
The others, the so-called, you know, legacy press and things like this, they are controlled by people who basically want us to wither up, dry up, and blow away.
Keith, I just got to ask you, how wholesome is this?
And how much of a supermom is Courtney?
Here she is calling in her people, making an appearance to bring forth to the audience a thoughtful topic, and you hear her children cooing in the background.
Now, does that not absolutely be a problem?
See, everything that the left has done, from the civil rights movement to feminism to the No Fault Divorce Initiative, to the homosexual rights movement, all of these things have one common thread that runs through them, and that's the reduction of white birth rates.
Basically, if we don't reproduce, if we don't get our reproduction levels well above replacement values, any victory we have is going to be a temporary pyrrhic victory because when the numbers get right, they're just going to shut us down.
And shutting us down can mean all sorts of things.
But nonetheless, the only key to victory long term is a massive increase in white birth rates.
And Courtney is certainly doing her part, and we're glad she is.
That's absolutely right.
Courtney had said something about being concerned about the kids making some noise.
And I said, it's absolutely endearing.
I loved it last time when she was on earlier this year, and you could hear him in the background.
Children are not a problem.
They are the reason that God put us here to have children.
People that don't have children are missing out on the best part of life.
I had three.
James has two.
Courtney now has two.
And hopefully she's not through.
Hopefully you're not either.
Wait a minute.
Hey, Courtney, the fertile octogenarian.
Courtney, we have just a couple of seconds before break.
You can respond to any of that you'd like.
We'll continue in the next segment.
Oh, I agree.
Sometimes I get carried away with my optimism.
I definitely agree.
There's still a lot of precautions we have to take.
There's a lot of work we have to do.
It's not all rosy.
We can't keep continuing down our path, that's for sure, with immigration and low birth rates and everything else.
But I do still think at this point in time, we still have something to work with.
We have enough of enough people that we can mold into being on our side and enough people, enough good people of the right stock, which is pretty much Christian European, no matter where you're from and you're a Christian European.
And, you know, really the only white people I believe from that group are those that are our enemies and fighting against us if they can't be converted one day.
Every hurt needs to be culled.
But, all right, Courtney, listen, and everybody knows I've done it before on Memorial Day in the 4th of July.
You know, I'm salivating to do it again, and I can't control myself.
I am going to do it.
I'm going to let loose on this topic when we come back.
Stay tuned.
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Okay, so here's my take on it all.
Complete, completely unadulterated.
Is showing pride in early America, a lost cause?
Is America so far gone we can't get it back?
Now, my answer to that is yes and no.
I think, yes, showing pride in America is a lost cause.
But no, it's not too far gone that we can't get it back.
Now, what I'm about to say, folks, you can, of course, feel free to agree or disagree with me, but let's talk about flags and what it symbolizes, first of all.
So, from 1776 to 1861, the American flag may have stood for something that we could find common ground with.
That was a period of about 85 years.
But from 1861 through the current year and counting, the American flag has stood for tyranny, every form of degeneracy imaginable, genocide in foreign lands, hatred of its founding stock.
Now, that's a period of 158 years.
So, what is the real American flag?
And I'll tell you, I've made up my mind.
I won't allow, I do not allow the federal flag on my property.
The sight of the American flag disgusts me.
I took my son into the store today, and of course, it's Memorial Day weekend.
So, you've got all of these small flags everywhere, all over the stores.
And it just sickens me.
Now, I've said that before on the show, but every Memorial Day and every 4th of July, when these small southern towns line Main Street with the flag of the federal government that hates them, it just truly upsets me to see that.
Betsy Ross, George Washington, Fort McHenry, the Star-Spangled Banner, all that stuff is great.
Yes, show pride in that.
Be proud of that.
But that's not the America anymore.
That America is gone.
And anyone who can still stomach the flag is still free to do so.
I love you because I know you're using it as a symbol for a country that no longer exists.
The early America that Courtney's talking about, I appreciate the history of America in the 1700s too.
But we'll just have to disagree or agree to disagree on its use amongst our people now.
Memorial Day.
What are we memorializing?
What wars did America ever fight that were worth fighting?
It's just, we're memorializing a tragic and senseless waste of lives.
Fourth of July, the birth.
You know, 4th of July is interesting because the 4th of July is both the anniversary of the birth of our nation and it's also the anniversary of the death of our nation.
Did you know that?
Of course, you know, on July 4th, 1776, the United States Declaration of Independence was adopted by the Second Continental Congress, which was meeting at the Philadelphia State House in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
But the America of our founding fathers also died on July 1st, 1863.
The Battle of Gettysburg, July 1st through the 3rd, 1863.
On July 4th of 1863, the Confederates were in retreat, and that was the end.
For all intents and purposes, that was the end of the America of our founding fathers.
The TV show, the TV show that I'm going to be appearing in.
I was talking to the director yesterday, and they're starting to film my parts on Monday on Memorial Day.
I'm going to be meeting with them.
I'm going to be preparing tomorrow.
And then I'm going to be meeting with them on Monday to begin filming my parts for this show.
And they said it'd be great to get a scene of you laying flags on the graves of a cemetery on Memorial Day.
And I said, why would I want to desecrate a grave?
You know, that's not my flag.
But so anyway, I got him to scrap that idea.
But Courtney, do you agree or disagree?
I mean, is that too hard?
Is that not hard enough?
I mean, what do you think when you hear something like that?
Oh, I, I, you know what, James?
I understand fully what you're saying.
And actually, you know what?
I would have, when I was talking earlier, I would have very easily stopped, you know, made my cutoff the Civil War.
But, you know, I was trying, I thought I would be too extreme.
I thought I wasn't, you know, including, you know, enough of the audience and my thoughts.
I thought I was being too close-minded.
I could very happily cut off what true America was at the start of the, you know, at the beginning of the Civil War.
I can make the cutoff there very easily.
I understand what you're saying.
I guess my, you know, I try to, I'm too much of an optimist sometimes.
I try to look at the situation and see, well, what do we do with what we have now, you know?
And I guess that was what most of what I was getting into.
But I fully agree with you.
I long for what America was before the Civil War.
I mean, it's not, you know, it was very different.
And we were, you know, by all meanings of the term and the word, we were one ethnicity back then, up until the Civil War.
And, you know, and then everything else you went into, obviously.
You know, there's a lot of stuff, a lot of things that have happened that have gone wrong ever since the Civil War.
But I'm just trying to expand things a little bit, I guess.
Well, we need you to stay positive, Courtney, because if you get too depressed, you'll stop having children.
That's true.
No, the way I look at it, I'm a little bit different from James.
The way that I look at it is like Enoch Powell said to Margaret Thatcher and absolutely blew the doors off her at the time.
He said he would remain an Englishman even if England became communist.
So, you know, there's still a nation here worth being loyal to.
I have both the Confederate flag and the federal flag in my house, but that doesn't stop me from disapproving of most of the actions of the current federal government and federal governments really since the Civil War, but particularly since World War I.
Well, you know, and Rich in Nashville, we were talking a week or two ago about this, and he said, and he's quite right.
I mean, America was never truly united.
I mean, it was more united for a time during the Revolutionary War, but there was always a big chasm between the people who settled in the North and the people who settled in the South.
But let's make no mistake, and I know everybody on the line here knows this, but, you know, there's a difference between supporting one's nation, which is one's race and which is one's people.
Kiss and Ken.
Yes, then supporting a country and a rogue government or an occupying government or a government that has been bought and paid for and is just nothing but a bunch of sociopaths and whores to foreign masters, which is what we've got in Washington right now.
So, yes, I love my nation.
I'm proud of my nation.
But, you know, what are we talking about when we talk about nation versus country and then government and all that?
We're certainly not proud of the U.S. government as currently constituted.
And I think we are all opposed to these foreign wars that they keep trying to drag us into that have served no purposes whatsoever to benefit the people of America, but support.
They all happen to be in the Middle East and they all happen to serve the interests of a certain nation in the Middle East more than they do the American people or the white race.
Well, I'll tell you what, me and Keith have the whole second hour to ourselves to talk about any number of subjects.
And we've got some doozies for you, ladies and gentlemen.
Let me tell you, don't miss the second hour tonight.
We've got some headlines that'll turn you white.
But before we go to that, Courtney, you are our guest this hour.
So being a cordial host, I want to give you the last word on this.
Take it any direction you'd like to go.
I really can't say there was anything y'all agreed or y'all mentioned that I really disagree with.
I, you know, in the sense not to be repetitive or anything, but in the sense that I do, you know, extend anything worth preserving about America past the Civil War.
It's just in a sense that I feel like we just need to move forward with what we have with, you know, the white majority we still have and those we still can convert to our side.
We have to look at what we have and see where we can go with it.
And I felt like in order to do that, I had to make my cutoff point past the Civil War.
No, I fully agree.
I fully agree.
Like the true hearts or the true souls, if I can say that, the true soul of the country died with the Civil War.
Before that, we were definitely one ethnicity, one, you know, largely Protestant, largely from the same part of Europe.
And, you know, not to exclude people that came later, but I mean, it's just the truth.
A lot changed after the Civil War and, you know, in many ways.
And yeah, I most certainly don't.
I certainly don't support most of our wars.
We fought and goodness, all the, all the other, all the other avenues our government has gone down.
You know, I'm trying to keep one of my kids from falling.
No, no, no.
Listen, I want to ask you this.
I just want to say, interject rather, and say it was a great topic.
And I've been looking forward to this show for a couple of months since you originally pitched it.
It's always great to have you on.
But I want to cut it.
I want to pause it right there because we only have a minute or two remaining.
I want to get to what may be the most enlightening and entertaining question that we have for you.
And that is, what's the rest of your night look like?
Is it bath time?
What's going on with the babies?
I'm sure they're ready for some attention.
Mommy's been tied up for the last hour.
Yes, they can tell when I'm preoccupied with something else.
Yeah, one of them's going to get a bath.
Another one might need to be fed.
And then bedtime will be pretty soon after that.
Do we read books at bedtime or do we sing a song or how do you do it?
I try to read.
I try to read a book with the older one.
And then, of course, with the older one, I'm also trying to teach her to pray before bedtime too.
Amen.
Yeah, you know what?
I was right.
My instinct was, I knew whatever she was going to answer is going to be the best part of this hour.
We should have done a whole hour on this.
We just need to toss marshmallows to her and let her knock them out of the park like that.
Well, how's prayer time coming?
Is she getting the hang of it?
She is.
I mean, she usually just puts her hands together and then she says amen with me when I get to the end of the prayer.
That's about all she says right now.
But at least she knows it's something to do every night.
That's right.
Well, it's the most important thing you can do.
And I was showing James this letter thing from a girl that way.
Vestry for the church I go to.
And here's what she said.
My parents have been a very steady influence in my life and have raised us kids to be strong in our faith.
I became a believer when I was very young, but I didn't really start following the Lord until I was probably in my late teens, early 20s.
I've had my struggles, but I've never doubted that the Lord is right by my side.
I'm so thankful for the foundation that my parents have set before us.
Otherwise, I'll probably be an absolute mess.
Keep those words in mind and be encouraged with them.
Courtney, great job tonight.
So great to have you on.
And have a good night with the people who matter most.