April 27, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome back, everybody, to the last installment of Confederate History Month 2019.
And we are wrapping it all up in grand fashion tonight with an old friend and one of the first guests to ever appear on this broadcast nearly 15 years ago.
Michael Gaddy is a political activist, a writer, and a teacher who defends and teaches the original Constitution as ratified, our Bill of Rights and the tenets of our Declaration of Independence.
He is constantly trying to understand why the great majority of people in this country are content being slaves to an unconstitutional criminal government, a government that is systematically destroying the intent of the founders of this country and the culture that brought us liberty and individual freedom.
But he's a lot more than that, ladies and gentlemen.
He is a widely read columnist that's written for so many outlets, including, but not limited to, LewRockwell.com to just give you one example.
And he was a founding member of the original Minuteman Project way back in 05, which is the reason we first came to know each other.
Mike, so great to have you back.
Especially great to have you back in Confederate History Month.
Hey, thanks.
Always a pleasure to speak with you, sir.
Well, I appreciate that, brother, and you are my brother.
And I just, you know, we like to get facts straight here on this particular broadcast.
So in advance of your appearance tonight, I was looking up.
I couldn't remember if it was the Minute Man Project or the Minute Men Project.
So we wanted to get that right.
So I looked it up, and it is in fact, or was in fact the Minuteman Project.
And folks, if you could go back to the archives to 2005, you would know that Mike Gatt, this is how long we've been on the air.
They still had payphones back then.
And Mike would go to a payphone on the border several times throughout that month, and he would call in a live report from their watch on the border from a payphone.
It was just the most incredible thing, really one of the first significant things we ever did on this show.
And I still remember it so fondly.
Mike and Joe McCutcheon, you know, lifelong friends made during that month.
But I was reading what they wrote about the Minuteman Project, Mike, or what it's remembered as being now.
And this isn't, of course, what you were brought on to talk about.
But I just wanted you to set the record straight very quickly, and then we'll get into the meat of the matter.
But I read when looking that up that the Minuteman Project was a vigilante organization by a group of private individuals to extrajudicially monitor Mexico's border flow of undocumented immigrants.
What do you think about that, Mike?
Well, you know, James, I've read all of those.
I've been had interviews where I've been told that we were much worse than that.
But the one thing that sticks in my mind so vividly is that at the end of the month of April of 2005, the Boots on the Ground local Border Patrol agents took out a full-page ad in the Sierra Vista newspaper.
to thank us for what we had done that month.
Now, of course, the leadership in Washington was following George W. Bush's proclamation that we were a bunch of vigilantes and we needed to mind our own business and let government handle the problem.
But the Boots on the Ground Border Patrol were most appreciative of everything we've done.
We heard so many times from them how so much of the traffic had been diverted around us where we were working because they weren't happy with all of the way we had basically shut down the border at that area.
Well, like I said, I vividly recall it.
Hard to believe that that much time has passed since we first came to know each other, but I am so thankful that we are still in touch and that you're again with us tonight, all of that being said.
So we brought you on tonight to wrap up, as I said, our last guest you are in this series that we do every April.
And let's just start with a couple of – I'm sorry, Mike, go ahead.
No, I didn't say anything.
Sorry.
Okay, my bad.
All right, no, I was just going to, we brought you on to talk specifically about a couple of columns you've written, a couple of articles you've written.
But before that, let's start with some of the generic questions I've been asking each guest this month.
Firstly, why is it important to us and to you to present this series each year?
Why should our southern forebears be remembered by their descendants?
Because, and this is my opinion, James, and as the old saying goes, I sell it for what it's worth.
But my opinion is that this is so critical because what is happening here is the total destruction of the culture that founded this country.
You know, and I teach, am teaching a series of classes right now in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
I teach that basically the founders, and I call the anti-Federalists my founders.
The Federalists were monarchists, and I avoid them except in teaching about them.
But the anti-Federalists, the Patrick Henrys, the Samuel Bryans, the Thomas Jeffersons of the world, created the culture that this country was intended to be.
And this assault on everything Confederate because the ideas of the anti-Federalists, and then they became under Jefferson, the Democratic Republicans.
What a name.
But anyway, that culture sifted down through until 1861 when it was more a full frontal attack by the northern elements and the people who wanted to destroy what the South stood for and what was basically the founding tenets of this country.
Well, you're exactly right.
And that is something that you mention in your article.
Now, we're at a time in each segment that I'm hesitant to open up a more broad-based discussion on a big topic.
But Let's talk about the Confederacy and that beautiful flag and what it means as a symbol of resistance to tyranny, because we've been talking about the flesh and blood.
You know, why we celebrate this, the valor, the heroism, the gallantry, the fact that these were our flesh and blood ancestors, but the ideas and the ideology behind it is equally moving in some ways.
Well, at least almost equally moving.
The resistance to tyranny that is depicted when you see a Confederate flag.
Well, you know, the thing that takes me back to is that gate at Monticello at Jefferson's Monticello and that wrought iron gate with the inscription on that gate that resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Hold on right there, Mike.
Mike, I hate to interrupt you, but that is a perfect place to put a quick pause on this conversation.
We'll come back on the Confederate flag being a symbol of resistance's tyranny, not just for Southerners, but indeed worldwide.
And we're going to get into two incredible articles written by Mike Gaddy as we wrap up Confederate History Month 2019 right here on TPC.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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I'll tell you what, folks, that song gets to me every time.
There is history behind that song, actually.
That was a song.
They weren't very creative in the name of their group, but that was a song performed by the band.
And they came down to the South to talk to people and do some research before they wrote the song and performed it.
And there are some historical accuracies in that song about, of course, the starving of the Southern soldiers in the winter of 1965 and the way that the Stoneman's Cavalry, now that's not, of course, Stonewall Jackson, but Stoneman's Cavalry tearing up the tracks and the ultimate fall of the South.
It was the fall of the last great chance we had to restore free and responsible government on this continent.
And that's what we're talking with Mike Gaddy about.
Mike, I can remember the last show we did in March, the last show we did before we transitioned into this series in April.
And I was so excited, so proud to be able to go into the month of April and have these series of shows.
People say, yeah, well, James, of course, you know, you would be a little more proud because you had ancestors who fought, as Mike Gaddy did.
And we're going to talk about that in just a second.
But it was more than that, Mike.
This series is something everyone should get behind, whether you're a southerner or not.
If you crave for the sweet nectar of freedom, you need to stand behind a symbol that resembles, or represents rather, that resistance to tyranny.
That's what we were talking about before the last break.
You were just getting into it, the Confederate flag as that symbol and why it should rally freedom-loving people around the world.
Well, James, I think the greatest fraud that has been perpetrated on the people of this country, especially those who call themselves Christians, is to get those people to denounce the Confederate battle flag, which is actually an attack on Christianity as well.
It's most people don't see it, but St. Andrew's Cross is a symbol of Christianity.
And it just really tears me up when I talk and I've talked with several in the area who call themselves Christians, who call the Confederate battle flag a race, a symbol of racism.
It just shows how perverted the mind of most Americans has become because of the educational system which was mandated out of the Communist Manifesto.
Well, that's exactly right, Mike.
But, you know, there are people who have fought against this oppression in the past, and there will be people in the future who do it.
And you've got two people here that do it to the best of our abilities with the opportunities that we have before us right now.
Mike, we repost every year your incredible article.
It's a must-read.
It's Our Flag, Not Yours.
And you wrote it some years ago, but we always like to revisit it this month.
And in it, you mention your own Southern patrimony and your own heroes from which you descend.
For the people who have come on this month, we have asked each of them to speak the names of those heroes in your own family who fought.
And you have some pretty incredible stories with yours.
Could you share that with the audience again?
Oh, sure.
And mine, when I started investigating my ancestors 30-some years ago, I was, you know, and I found at least 22 of my ancestors who fought for the Confederacy.
And possibly as many as 27.
And so, and investigating those, and I did that because of way back when, talking with my grandfather, who lived to be 100, he started telling me about his personal conversation with some of my ancestors, because, of course, they were related to him as well.
And he basically received first-hand information.
So I was getting it secondhand from him.
And we had some great discussions before he passed away.
And we talked about a lot of this.
But he told me the stories.
And basically, what I got, of course, my grandfather was born in 1883.
So he was like 20, 20 years after the war.
And he would tell me basically what we talked about was not so much the horrors of the war that my ancestors fought in, but the horrors of Reconstruction and what was basically done to the people of the South for 15, 20 years after the war was over.
But he made me start doing research.
I don't mean physically made me, but by his challenge, he made me to do the research.
And I started finding all kinds of relatives in different places.
I found some in the various North Carolina infantry regiments.
I found them in the North Carolina Cavalry, 16th North Carolina Cavalry.
And I found recently, thanks to a wonderful gentleman named Lee Goza, who was also a close friend of Mike Goza, a friend of ours.
Absolutely.
I found out he sent me a notice and he said, hey, he said, do you know this guy?
And it was a gentleman by the name of George Washington Gaddy, who had fought in the 38th Georgia.
And I at first said, well, I'm not aware of any relatives in that area.
But then when I did the research, I found out he was related.
He had moved from the mountains of western North Carolina and had moved to Georgia to do an apprenticeship and had married a young lady there.
And when the war broke out, he fought and signed on with the 38th Georgia.
So I'm still finding information that's still, and I've been researching his descendants and looking into those things.
But when I looked at specifically what prompted the article, It's Not Your Flag, that came from two relatives who fought with the 26th North Carolina Infantry Regiment at Gettysburg and the terrible losses that that unit absorbed during that three-day battle.
And, you know, 80% is just a huge amount of people to lose.
But I looked at the bravery.
I looked at what these people did.
And if you've been on the battlefield at Gettysburg and you look across that open field and you think about these men who would just line up and just go across that field to attack an enemy.
And I was thought, I thought so many times about why and what possessed these people to do it.
And in the 26th North Carolina, some of the officers owned slaves, but by and far, none of the actual participants did.
And you can't get people to stand up and charge across an open field against cannon fire for the right to own another human being.
That's absolutely ridiculous.
Or someone else's right to own another human being.
Right, even better.
That is totally absurd to believe that those people would have done that.
And many of these men had walked out of their shoes weeks before.
And you look at the tattered uniforms and everything else, but it didn't matter because they were fighting for a purpose.
And Stonewall Jackson outlined that very well in a conversation with Jeb Stewart that is just absolutely fantastic.
You know, we actually, Mike, as we're coming up on a break, we actually replayed a recreation of that that was featured in the movie Gods and Generals, and we replayed that just last week.
That's fake what happened.
So, yes, you're absolutely right.
He surely did.
He surely did.
All right, we're going to take another break, folks.
I think you are beginning to understand why we could not have wrapped up Confederate History Month series 2019 without Mike Gaddy.
What an incredible segment.
Thankfully, we've got two more with him coming your way next.
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Like my father before me, I'm over the land.
And like my mother before me, good for the rail of the stand.
You just made me ride and grave.
We want a Yankee, a lady leaving brave.
And I swear my boy, been on my feet.
You can't pay the came back home when he's in the field.
The line they go dancing down.
What a heart-wrenching song.
What a gut-wrenching song.
They also said when coming down to the South to research that song that they that every now this was back in the 60s and 70s, I believe, the 1960s and 70s.
And the people that were part of that musical group said that there was a real intangible suffering that they picked up on.
These people were from Canada, this particular group.
And when they were in the South writing this song, everyone they talked to, that they could detect their suffering.
And that so many times they would hear the South's going to rise again.
And they talk in the lyrics in that last clip about these 18-year-old boys going and dying.
And Mike, you were talking about the tremendous casualties that the regiments that some of your ancestors were in suffered.
You know, 80%.
We were talking just last week.
You know, the University of Mississippi in today's degenerate day and age are running as hard as they can away from their wonderful and righteous heritage and legacy.
But at the time of the war, and we mentioned this last week, every single student at Ole Miss at the University of Mississippi during the war years left school to fight.
They formed a unit called the University of Grays, and 100%, they had 100% casualties.
Every single one of them died at Gettysburg.
And for the people who say they did that so some rich man could own slaves, well, they don't know very much.
And it just makes me so proud to be able to present the truth to you on this A.M. radio show, to do what we do and to do it with such outstanding men like Michael Gaddy.
It is an honor.
There is no one on this world I would rather be than myself because we have this opportunity to do that.
And we're talking with Mike Gaddy right now about one of his incredible columns entitled, It's Not Your Flag.
I just want to read a quick excerpt from that.
We'll toss it back over to Mike.
Those who have fallen mentally ill and cowardly while absorbing the deadly virus of political correctness, white guilt, and cultural Marxism were unworthy of being mentioned in the same breath as any of these heroes.
Their letters home spoke of defending their country from the Yankee invader and defending freedom and liberty.
They gave the ultimate sacrifice on the field of honor.
The overwhelming majority of these young men owned no slaves and their absence placed terrible burdens on their families.
Theirs was a battle for the home, the family, and the fireside, and the right of the consent of the governed, as was stated in our Declaration of Independence.
Mike, back to you.
Oh, well, you know, I just, when I think about that, and I think about my relatives, I knew that Elijah Gaddy was wounded on July the 1st of 1863, and that is recorded, but he was never seen or heard from again by family or friends.
And my thought is that he probably died of his wounds somewhere during those three days and was left and buried in a shallow grave there at Gettysburg.
But Sergeant Joel Gaddy actually went on with the 26th North Carolina and was actually with Robert E. Lee in the surrender at Appomattox Courthouse in April of 65.
So, you know, and I'm trying to trace him now and what happened with him.
And one of the things that I have really focused on, James, is the fact of the PTSD that we have given this name to, that so many Confederate soldiers suffered from after the war.
And I don't think that's been an explored subject.
And I'm trying to do what I can, and I hope to write something on that.
Well, I would love to read it.
There was an interesting thing that got brought up last week.
It was Pastor John Weaver's assertion that the South won that war.
And this was in correlation with our Easter message last week.
It was mentioned that it was the South through their suffering that turned back to Christ in a mass revival during and after the war.
And so that's an interesting theory.
But in any event, you can't cover it all.
I've made mention of this earlier this month, too.
All the heroes, all the battles, all the tales.
You can't cover it all in a month.
You can't cover it all in a lifetime, really.
But you can make people think, and you can remind them that the regime's narrative about the South and our heroes is not accurate.
Mike, we're going to cover another article, a very interesting article that you actually just brought to my attention for the first time just a day or two ago.
And I'm really excited to present that to the folks in the next segment.
What would be one thing you would encourage people to take away from not only your appearance tonight, but from our entire series at large?
What could they do going forward to better themselves and better our community?
I think it is critical, James, that we actually study the facts of history and not the hyperbole.
And, you know, most of the, I had a college professor one time who told me, always remember that when you read a history book, you basically read someone's opinion of what happened and don't take it as facts until the facts are presented.
Go to source documents, find source documents, find the reality of what we're dealing with.
And we're dealing with a 1984 situation with the Ministry of Truth in this country.
When the federal government can give million-dollar grants to a university providing a couple of their professors write a history book that covers revisionist history, people, normal folks like us, we can't go give somebody a grant to write the truth of history.
So dealing with the truth rests with folks like you, James, and the work that you do and what you bring out and the facts were true.
And, you know, the old thing about, you know, the truth will set you free.
Patrick Henry said, I would rather know the truth and prepare for it.
And most Americans don't have a clue about what is actually the truth.
It's amazing when you sit and talk with otherwise intelligent people who have not a clue as to the truth of exactly what happened from 1861 to 1865, the 20 years prior and the 20 years after.
That is such a crucial part of American history that has been just whitewashed and if not totally obliterated.
Our future depends on our past.
People want to forget the past, but our future depends on the past.
You cannot, you know, if you believe that history began the day you were born, you're in big trouble.
Well, it's interesting that you say that.
Every time I mention the name of the great Patrick Clayburn, I have to, as a, almost by reflex, recite his great quote.
And I hope I don't butcher it because I don't have it in front of me.
I think I say that every time too, but Patrick Clayburn said just right before his death, in fact, on the field of battle, if this cause, talking about the Confederacy, if this cause that is so dear to my heart is doomed to fail, I pray that heaven may let me fall with it while my face is toward the enemy and my arm is battling for that which I know to be right.
Of course, Mike, they don't make men like that anymore in positions of leadership and authority.
Well, they do.
People like us, I guess.
But, you know, you're talking about, we were, we make mention of sitting governors who fought at Shiloh.
Well, we know that the sitting governor of Tennessee, Isham Harris, fought there, but the sitting governor of Kentucky actually died at Shiloh.
Can you imagine a sitting governor in today's world, Mike, going out and fighting with his kinsmen in a battle or the head of a Fortune 500 company?
It would never happen.
But to your point on history, I think it was Clayburn who also said, and he wasn't alone in thinking this and knowing this to be true, that one reason that the South had to win was the history would be written by Northerners.
And so it has, and the world has been changed because of it.
Well, we also have to look at what happened during Reconstruction.
The radical Republicans of that era during Reconstruction, they totally obliterated, almost totally, they replaced all of the teachers and all of the preachers in the South with copperheads and carpetbaggers.
It was just, I'm sorry, carpetbaggers.
It was just incredible the things that were done.
When you research this and you find out that the schools, in the schools of the South, we had our children standing up and chanting praise for the federal Yankee government.
And the preachers were required to do the same thing in their Sunday services.
And so the mind-washing, the brainwashing began back in 1865.
And you get all the way up to today, and I believe it was Sam Dixon who said, That's a thorough and complete victory when you can get the descendants of one's ancestors to repudiate their ancestors and parrot the lies of the enemy.
That's when you know you've got a total victory.
And it's happened to far too many people, but certainly not to all of them.
There is a faithful remnant, and you're listening to one of its leading voices, Mike Gaddy.
Right now, we'll be back with him.
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Hey, I hope you have enjoyed our Confederate History Month series this year.
And I want to quickly thank each of the guests who anchored the four broadcasts in the month of April in order.
Gene Andrews, Dr. Michael Hill, Kirk Lyon, and then, of course, tonight, Michael Gaddy.
I knew when I first got into radio back in the fall of 2004 that we could go a couple of ways.
We could be just a regular conservative political talk show interviewing elected officials and celebrities who never said anything of substance, never said anything that would violate the dictates of political correctness.
We could do that.
Boy, that would have been boring and it would have been short-lived, but thank God he put it in us to do something a lot more meaningful and to interview the people who should be featured on broadcast entities, people like Mike Gatty.
And I just want to say also very quickly, we got a picture in from our friend Bill, who is in Washington, D.C.
And Bill has sent us in a picture from the Stonewall Jackson statue at the Manassas, don't call it Bull Run, National Battlefield Park, there, of course, in Manassas, Virginia.
So thank you, Bill, for sending that in.
And now back to Mike.
Mike, you've been a step ahead of us all night and even in your prep before the show in terms of the things you've been saying and the things we have talked about already in recent weeks that perhaps you didn't even know about.
But just last week, we read a letter that came in from one of our listeners in Colorado.
And he mentioned the name of the Confederate general, Stan Waddy.
Basically, what he was writing is that he did not have any Confederate heritage that he knows of, but he appreciates and respects and supports our show so much because of our Confederate History Month series.
He sent in a contribution and he said he had done a lot of research over the years on the South and that he was a Southerner at heart, even if he didn't have Confederate blood in him.
And he said that the nearest ancestor or relatives that he had to the South were some of his ancestors in Oklahoma.
And he mentioned the name of Stan Waddy.
And Stan Waddy, of course, was a leader of the Cherokee Nation and the only American Indian to attain a general's rank in the Confederate States Army during the war between the states.
And he commanded, if people don't know, the Confederate Indian Cavalry of the Army of the Trans-Mississippi, which was made up mostly of Cherokee and Seminole troops.
And in fact, Stan Waddy was the last Confederate general in the field to cease hostilities at the war's end.
So you could say he was the last Confederate general on the battlefield, Stan Waddy, American Indian Confederate general.
Now, the reason I bring that up is because Mike brought to my attention another article that he had written that I had not seen before, but it's a fascinating read.
And I wanted to invite Mike to share it with you and tell us what it's all about.
A little Confederate history perhaps you didn't know about the American Indian and their relationship with the great emancipator.
Mike, James, there were tribes, there were some tribes in Georgia that sent all of their men to fight for the Confederacy.
And of course, then we had the great Stan Waddy, we have a legion of Cherokees out of North Carolina, and some of the stories that are involved with those people.
And to think that these people were racist too.
And Stan Waddy was the only man of color in either army to be promoted to general.
And the other thing that is very amazing is the fact that all men of color who fought for the Confederacy were paid exactly the same as the white man.
Not true in the Yankee Army.
So there's a great lesson to be told here.
And then to look what Abraham Lincoln did to the American Indian tribes, especially in Minnesota, where the largest mass execution of people in history took place, or at least in America, took place in Minnesota at the hands of Abraham Lincoln.
And he ordered it.
And then we look, go move forward and we go to the Navajo.
And I have some wonderful Navajo friends, and most of them are unaware that the president who ordered their tribes to their people to be gathered up with many of them killed and their livestock slaughtered and their trees cut down, their peach trees, especially in Canyon Deshea, and all of these things were destroyed under the direction of Abraham Lincoln.
And we're to think that Lincoln was this great emancipator in looking after the people of color, which is absolutely a fraud on the history of America.
But I thought at the time in 2003, no one's really covered this.
And so I wrote this article and I just sat down.
And at that time, I was writing for Sierra Times.
And I just sat down.
I wanted to put this into logical progression.
And I did.
And I put a lot of the comments and everything else that came about with the American Indian.
I don't call them Native Americans because a very good friend of mine who is an American Indian hates that phrase.
He says anybody who was born in America is a Native American.
So I wanted to document this.
I put this together and I had no ulterior motive.
I just wanted to put it out.
And I put it out at Sierra Times.
And within three days, a website called UnitedNativeAmerica.com picked it up and put it on their website.
And James, it's just such an honor that that article has been at UnitedNativeAmerica.com for over 16 years now.
And they've never removed it.
They've never taken it down.
And they've caught a lot of flack over it.
And I've caught a lot of flack over it.
Had a James Madison University professor tell me that he knew I was an Indian activist.
And I was like, what is that?
And then I've seen articles written on it.
You know, Snopes attacked it right after I wrote it.
So I said, well, it has to be right then, or they wouldn't even bother with it.
So, you know, that old saying that you catch the most flack when you're right over the target is exactly true.
And as Snopes and some of these other CIA-backed people start coming after you, you know, you've hit a vein or hit a nerve and a vein.
So that was very, that is one of my proudest accomplishments in writing is that these wonderful people decided to keep it on their website for 16 years.
Well, and there's a reason, of course, well, there's a reason it's on the website as well written, number one, but there's a reason why these tribes would have joined forces with the South.
And you go into this in the article.
And it wasn't because of the proximity that they lived down here and we were down here necessarily.
It was because they were being abused by the same federal government that was abusing and burning out our people.
Yeah, John Ross, especially, and it's included in the article, John Ross wrote a very descriptive reason as to why the Cherokees supported the Confederacy instead of the Union.
And of course, they had a chance to go either way.
They could have done, could have fought for either side or tried to stay out of it.
But one of the things I, and right now it's escaping me, but I'm trying to think of the tribe in Georgia that sent their men off to fight for the Confederacy, and they lost so much of their male population for that tribe, the tribe went extinct a few years later.
You know, and no one covers that, James.
No one talks about that because it doesn't fit the paradigm.
No, it doesn't, but it does get mentioned here.
And we appreciate the sacrifices made by our ancestors and our heroes.
And there's not one of them that we won't mention here during Confederate History Month if it comes to our attention.
So I appreciate you, Mike, for bringing that to my attention.
Of course, I was familiar with Stanwaddy, of course, but not familiar to the extent that you go into this with the sacrifice that the Indians made, some Indians, of course, on behalf of the Confederate States of America.
It's very interesting.
Little fact of Confederate history that you may not have known.
Now, Mike, with two minutes left in the hour, and again, this will officially bring our Confederate History Month series to a close.
I want to thank Mike for being the closer this year.
Parting shot to the audience.
Anything you'd like to mention that we didn't cover that should be conveyed to our listeners tonight.
Gosh, James, you nailed it earlier on.
We could talk for years worth of shows on this effort from 1861 to 1865 and then following by many of the other folks.
And then it's been left down to folks like you and I to keep continuing this battle.
We could talk about this for years worth of shows and still not cover everything.
But when you look at the sacrifice, and I look at the sacrifice of these people, and when I read about the daily things, and then I, you know, one of my favorite historians of the period is Shelby Foote.
And when I read that when he was asked, I don't think it would fit on TV today, but back years ago, when he was asked, maybe 20, 30 years ago, he was asked, would you have fought for the Confederacy?
And he said, of course I would.
I would have chosen the Confederacy.
And he listed the reasons why.
Well, you know, you don't hear Shelby Foote mentioned often anymore, but he was a great historian.
And he knew the truth.
And he fought for the truth.
And that's the only thing we really have, James, is we have the truth.
Well, and we will hope the truth will set us free.
We certainly hope that our ancestors are smiling down from heaven on us to our meager offerings compared to their great sacrifice.
But it says, as another guest said this month, our job isn't necessarily to win.