March 23, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back, everybody, to the second hour of tonight's live broadcast of TPC.
This is Saturday evening, March the 23rd.
Our featured guest tonight is none other than Brad Griffin.
He's made regular appearances over the years.
This is his first stop-in with us during the current year.
But, of course, Brad is the founder and editor-in-chief of Occidental Dissent.
And he's going to return tonight.
He's an amateur historian in his own right as well.
I mean, you read some of his writings and musings on history, and it's always can't miss stuff, especially on the South.
But he's returning tonight primarily to help us understand the rising interest in Democratic candidate Andrew Yang, aka Chairman Yang, this Chinese entrepreneur who is seeking the Democratic nomination.
And we're going to see what's going on there.
But Brad's such a utility guy.
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So I'm sure once we talk Yang a little bit, we'll transition into some other stuff.
But anyway, first of all, Brad, welcome.
Welcome back.
Oh, thanks for having me, James.
You there?
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
I had to switch a knob there.
So, okay, here's what's going on.
So I have been monitoring the chatter about Chairman Yang for a few weeks, and I was debating whether or not to talk about it on the show.
I couldn't figure out if it was all trolling.
And to be honest, I still don't know for sure.
But you've written prolifically about Yang over at Occidental Descent, probably a couple dozen articles and posts just in the last few days.
What's going on here, Brad?
Well, I mean, I don't even know where to begin.
You know, when I first saw Yang, I think he was on Tucker Carlson's show, and Tucker Carlson had him on.
Tucker agreed, you know, they talked about robots or something.
Tucker Carlson agreed, you know, entirely with Yang.
And before that, you know, he had said, you know, he was concerned about what, the white birth rate, the death rate, suicide rate.
He expressed an interest in white America.
I think it was really those two things that got him, drew attention to him like in populist circles, right?
Like, you know, he's making some good points there, some reasonable points.
The fact that, you know, Andrew Yang is Asian, like, who cares?
If someone is, like, speaking on your wavelength or they're offering something to you, then, I mean, why does that matter?
So anyway, like, you know, I saw this phenomenon of all these memes.
This was just exploding on 4chan, on Reddit.
You see all these people creating these memes or getting back on social media.
Suddenly.
The meme maker, the meme makers, I mean, these are the guys that really propelled or at least launched Trump into orbit originally.
All the meme makers seem to have been going, have gone over to Yang.
Oh, definitely.
And so, like, I mean, they're not just doing this and control.
They're like responding to his message.
And even if they don't agree with him on everything, they're at least entertained by this idea.
And, you know, Andrew England is, Greg Johnson is.
There's something about this guy that interests me.
And the more I think about it, you know, I look at the tagline on my site and it's like nationalism, populism, reaction, right?
That's kind of the wavelength I think about things.
And I think there's something about what Yang is saying that really struck a nerve amongst people like us.
I mean, we don't agree with this guy on everything.
Now, me and you are pretty close politically, culturally, you know.
Yeah, I would say that for sure.
You're a Protestant like I am, right?
Protestant Christian.
You are a married family man like I am.
You share populist and nationalist politics.
So like we're, me and you are like a lot closer on the same wavelength than a lot of people.
And a southern patrimony that certainly is, you know, love of the Confederacy and the South and, you know, our Southern white Christian identity.
Now, that's not about hating anyone else.
That's just, you know, our identity, right?
But people in both parties don't really listen to people like me and you.
I remember, you know, back in when Trump was running, you met Donald Trump Jr.
And like, you know, they kind of strung you along and then like they're like, oh, James, you don't even know who that guy is.
You know, terrible.
Now, no, entertain this idea for a minute.
Suppose that you were responding to Trump's message because of the populist things he was saying, the nationalist things he was saying, the way he wanted to tackle conservatism and change conservatism, kind of like, you know, make it into a more Sam Francis direction.
That's why we've responded so well to Trump.
And it's kind of the same thing with Yang, seen through the prism, I'd say, of economics.
You know, I support like health care for people.
I think student loan debt is terrible.
I think universal basic income is a good idea because, you know, white America is so stressed out that if people could just, you know, if there's a financial floor under them and they were able to pay their bills, that just makes a lot of sense to me.
So that's some of the things Yang is saying like on economics make sense to me, whereas some of the things that Trump said on culture, whether it was like the border wall, for example, or infrastructure.
I mean, I'm just looking at both these people from my, go ahead.
But I was just going to say, you've written a lot about this, so people can follow and try to catch up on the fly with what's going on with Andrew Yang at Occidental Descent.
Lots of blog posts and articles have been written there by Brad.
But the bottom line is what I'm hearing is, Brad, that there is some seriousness to this on some level.
I mean, we talked about the meme makers.
I mean, the meme, they're still making memes on Trump.
He's gone from God Emperor to Potato Trump in two years.
And so I think, I mean, am I boiling it down to finally when I say that ultimately, if no one's going to help us, if we truly are on our own, why don't we vote for the guy that says he's going to give us $1,000 a month?
Yeah, of course, now, Andrew Yang said too, and that's one of the big things with his universal basic income, his UBI plank, is that everybody, every adult male, adult male, every adult in America, 18 or older, gets $1,000 a month.
Of course, now he too said that he doesn't want any white nationalists voting for him because, of course, the media picked up on the fact that some of these guys were doing the memes.
So he said what you would expect him to say.
I mean, he's no Fraser Anning over there in Australia.
Now, that's the guy we really need.
We really need a guy like that.
We really need Trump, candidate Trump, to be president.
But if we can't get that, are we saying we want the guy that's going to give us $1,000 a month?
Now, of course, the odds of him winning, the odds of him actually being able to do that are astronomical, but is that what's going on here?
If we're not going to get a guy that's going to be for us, we'll just take the thousand.
All right, all right.
Well, I mean, look at it this way, right?
You're a populist, right?
So that means you are economically, you know, you support helping the working man.
You are socially conservative, right?
And from that perspective, you can say, hey, I agree with Trump on these issues.
I agree with Yang on those issues.
In fact, I'm kind of in the middle between those two.
And I think that's what's really going on.
I think, like, you know, at least with me, my realization was, okay, Trump's not going to get me the wall.
He's not going to change our culture or anything.
But what did this other guy want to do?
A lot of other things, I agree with him.
All right, hold on right there.
We're going to pick up.
We're going to learn a little more.
There's a graph of the American Electorate that Brad has posted quite a few times of Verdas and we're going to talk about that.
And much more.
I think this is an interesting topic.
It is interesting that so many people who supported Trump, really people who were very much responsible for his nomination, are going to this Democratic primary guy.
We'll talk about it.
Stay tuned.
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Interesting stirrings on the internet.
It looks like some of Trump's right flank is defecting to Andrew Yang.
Now, this is something I've noticed, Brad, for a long, long time.
Now, Andrew Yang, this is a Chinese Democratic candidate.
I mean, he basically self-funded, I guess, or funding, receiving funding from the public, rather, and an entrepreneur.
Over the years, I have always said that if there's one question on which our people will go in all different directions, it is the question of who to vote for.
Until Donald Trump ran, I think there was a pretty even split where my audience, for instance, your readers, too, probably, it was going to be, well, we're going to vote for the Republicans because of the lesser of two evils.
Or I'm actually going to vote for the Democrat, even though I'm a pro-white guy.
I'm going to vote for the Democrat because I'm an accelerationist and we want to let the bad times roll.
The sooner it all falls apart, the better.
Or there's been people like me throughout my life who's always voted for the most right-wing third party that was on the ballot.
And then people who would just not vote at all.
So I think there was a pretty even split between those four things.
People with our exact viewpoints voted for Republican, Democrat, Third Party, or setting out.
Until Trump, when Trump came, there was really, everybody coalesced.
Everybody, I think almost to a man, probably voted for Trump.
I mean, 90 plus percent of our people voted for Trump.
So that was the exception.
But now, and I was really all the way through last December when Trump first shut down the government and made that special address from the Oval Office.
I was still, I mean, obviously, I had not nearly as much hope as I did when he was running as a candidate.
But even still to that point, I was like, you know, let's just see what happens.
But at this point, I don't know, Brad.
If the election was today, I don't know what I would do.
But, you know, I barely voted for Trump last time.
You know, Trump himself or his campaign had denounced me several times by name during that election cycle, but I never did take it personally because I took him at his word that he may be serious.
Let's give him the shot to see if he's serious because he certainly was taking a withering beating from the press.
And the thing, though, that really turned me off, I was in Florida on vacation.
Now, our vacation was scheduled to end two days before Election Day.
And I was considering just extending the trip and not voting because Eric Trump had said something about shooting David Duke, putting a bullet in David Duke's head.
And I was thinking, you know, to hell with it.
You know, if that's what we're going to get, I can get that and just set it home.
He's going to win Tennessee anyway.
But I did go home.
I did vote for Trump.
Today, though, it's every man for himself with regards to where to vote.
So let's get back to what we're talking about here.
Andrew Yang and your research and your writing on him.
It does seem that there is at least some level of seriousness that people aren't just trying to promote him for the laughs.
You have a graph of the American electorate.
Yang's positions apparently place him on a chart where most of the voters may be, but it's an area that other candidates aren't filling.
What can you tell us about that?
Well, I mean, like, the more I think about it, you see the Trump-Yang phenomenon on the Yang Trump.
arguing about it.
There's something attractive about both Andrew Yang and Donald Trump that, you know, people are interested in both things.
And the thing is, is populism, nationalism, kind of a reactionary politics, I would say.
Like you look at Trump, right?
And this is my take on Trump.
I voted for him because I thought he was going to end political correctness.
I supported building the wall.
I supported, you know, the infrastructure.
I supported keeping the entitlements.
I wanted an America first foreign policy.
What else is there?
Oh, and I wanted a nationalist trade policy, right?
That's why I voted for Donald Trump.
And that's kind of like what he's lost me by shifting, you know, to the make Israel great again position.
Now look at that.
Yeah, I mean, they've taken it beyond the Democrats are the real races.
Now it's Democrats are the real anti-Semites.
And you've written about that as well.
I mean, that's definitely what's going on there.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, what it is, it's just, I mean, people looking, if you're in the middle, like we are, like a middle American radical, like Sam Francis would have, you know, prophesied, you kind of look, you look at why you voted for Trump, and then you look at Yang and you're like, okay, well, I agree with Yang on student loans.
I think that would help the white working class, especially younger people.
I have student loans.
I think it's terrible.
I look at health care.
I think our health care system is a joke.
I look at universal basic income and I think that idea, okay, well, suppose every white working class person had $1,000 a month from the government, right?
With that $1,000, they could pay their basic bills.
They could not be a wage slave.
They could be more, how would I say, have more leisure time, more time to think about it.
Well, I mean, you could, I think $1,000 a month could keep a lot of white mothers at home or a lot of white women at home to where they could be mothers, full-time mothers, or perhaps even have more children.
Now, whether or not he's actually, the odds of Yang becoming president, the odds of him getting this $1,000 a month to everybody, if he does, I mean, long, long, long shots.
But, I mean, as far as your vote's concerned, you've already said you're going to vote for him in the Democratic primary in Alabama.
I mean, why not?
What's the loss?
He's the only guy who's kind of near where I am in the center of the election.
Here's what my realization was, and I'm kind of, I'm actually joking about it now on Oxford.
What I'm joking about is the journalists are all on the far left, right?
And they look at us and they think we're the far right.
Yeah, we're the far right because we're populists.
We're in the middle of the electorate.
The Glenn Becks of the world look at us and they see us as socialists, right?
But we're really just populists and nationalists and reactionaries.
And what I'm saying is that I agree with the Republicans on some issues.
I agree with it.
It sure is a relief to me that the Democrats are not going to APAC.
Every single one of them has decided not to go to the APAC conference and Trump has given away the Golden Heights.
I'm just saying, I'm just saying the great realization I think is going on, not just in our circles, but also whether it's in progressive pundits or conservative funds.
The great realization is that people like me and you are actually in the middle of the electorate.
The reason people are so angry is because their identity isn't being acknowledged.
If you're a white person, you're supposed to be ashamed of that.
If you're a southerner, you're supposed to be ashamed of that.
If you're a Christian, well, we'll kind of look down on it unless you're like a Christian Zionist, right?
And Christian Zionism is just this crap that was made up in the 19th century.
And I think there's a realization going on.
But see, our system is so polarized.
No one talks to anyone in the middle of the spectrum like us.
And I think a lot of the conservatives and the progressive pundits who are, like, say, reading my site might realize this guy might be onto something.
In fact, the latest angle I'm doing on OD is that educated people, bright, intelligent, educated people from all over the political spectrum are familiar with the television series Star Trek, right?
And but they lack a common language.
They lack a way to understand their politics because they're all so polarized.
And so right now I'm kind of like mocking, I'm kind of doing satire on my website.
I'm kind of mocking the whole political spectrum.
And some people are getting really mad at that.
I think, oh, you're a traitor because you're a Democrat.
It's just stupid.
I'm just like doing punditry, which is what I've done for years now, my disaffections with Trump, why I supported him.
And I'm just doing punditry and political analysis.
I have a degree from Auburn University.
And I'm just making use of that and having a good time and drawing on my education and intelligence to kind of leverage a bargain.
Suppose you wish the Democrats could, you know, just get rid of political correctness, right?
I mean, that would help you so much.
You know, you go to the Republicans and you're like, why can't you be more reasonable on student loans or health care or education or just a lot of the ideas that the Democrats are good?
And suddenly, when you think of it like that, you don't think of yourself as far right or alt-right.
You think of yourself as a centrist.
And I think when you have a centrist message, especially an Asian supporting it, people listen to you.
Well, and that's what we're talking about.
So Andrew Yang apparently has some things that would appeal to the right, to the left, and even the centrists.
We're going to talk a little more about it.
This is a very interesting conversation, especially to people who, like me, were unfamiliar with Yang until a few weeks ago.
I'm sure most of our audience is unfamiliar with it.
Perhaps this is even the first time you've ever heard of him, this Chinese Democrat running in the primaries, and he's actually polling now, if you can believe it.
We'll talk more about that.
Stay tuned.
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So again, folks, I don't know where I'm going to go in election year 2020.
I may still vote for Trump.
We'll see what he does.
I mean, right now, it'd be a toss-up, to say the least, but we'll see what happens.
I mean, things can and will change, but a lot's going to have to change.
I can tell you that much.
Yeah.
I got an insight here.
You know, if you look at like both sides of the political spectrum from our point of view, our populist, nationalist, reactionary point of view, it's all one big political cesspool, right?
Dave, hey.
Exactly.
We didn't.
We're in the middle.
Well, I'll tell you, you wrote something that I want to have you.
I'm actually going to read to the audience something that you wrote a few days ago and have you react to it.
Really good, really good stuff there at OccidentalDescent.com.
This is what Brad, our guest this hour, Brad Griffin, put up there on the website.
When the definition of racism and white supremacy is inflated to the point where white people with socially conservative values, which is to say people with a positive sense of identity, a love of their own culture and heritage, are evil oppressors who need to be destroyed by self-righteous social justice warriors.
What do you get?
You get a lot of strange things happening in the center of the electorate who are screwed over in every election by being forced to choose between conservatism and progressivism.
Just look at what happened in New Zealand.
There you have a classic example of someone who wants to burn it all down because they see no other solution.
And by the way, folks, that is something that a lot of people have talked about this week.
You take away anybody's freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom to have an identity, and they respond violently.
My only surprise is that it hasn't happened more often.
It happens again and again and again.
These people have been popping off for years.
It could be stopped with a few magic words.
The revolutionary message, Brad writes, it's okay to be white.
That would lance the festering boil of political correctness.
If there was some room in our culture to not be a self-hating white person in America, you would be amazed at how fast things would start to reorient to the FDR days.
Think Yang grasps this.
This is what you wrote, Brad.
What do you mean by that?
Do you think that uh, Andrew Yang who who, who has already said what everybody else was at, I want white nationalists to vote for me.
Do you think that he might be better for the the, the white working man, than Trump has been?
Well we'll, we'll see.
Um, I think Yang has grasped already a number of things, uh white uh the the what, the interest in his campaign amongst white Americans who are of a populist nationalist uh perspective, the people who voted um for Trump.
I think you know um, he's not going to say yeah, I support white nationalism.
Of course he's Asian right, but you know he's, you know, listening to what's going on and he realizes, hey, you know, if we just got rid of this taboo on, you know hey, i'm white uh, so what right, if we just got rid of that taboo, that stupid, anticated taboo.
You know oh we these, all these people who are populists, are warming to the Democrats right, they're thinking about voting for the Democrats if we just got rid of this dumb taboo enforced by organizations like the Southern Poverty LAW Center and fired people like Morris Deeds and and uh, Richard Cohen and say, we put Brad Griffin and James Edwards in charge of it right, and then just gave everyone a bunch of money.
That would, we could, you know, end hate and stuff, just by showing people how stupid they are, and I think you're finally starting to get it right.
Um um, what i'm doing is i'm trying to, i'm trying to use my education, my intelligence, i'm trying to like talk to anyone who might be reading my website right, because I think this more is this, this latest development, the Southern Poverty LAW Center collapsing um, top three people gone.
You know, maybe you know someone in power like realize what a stupid system this is.
What, if we just listen to people like Brad and James and say Greg Johnson or Andrew Anglin or Richard Spencer, maybe we just listen to those guys for once and try to compromise with them?
You know, we could figure a lot of things out.
I mean that's.
I'm just hoping someone reads my website and finds out, hey guys, we're in the center of the electorate right, we're just analyzing things from our point of view and if you, if the Democrats and Republicans were trying to appeal to people like us in the middle of America, in the south and in the Midwest, you know we would have.
A lot could happen, right?
Well, I tell you, with the people you're talking about, put Donald Trump into office right, mark your mark.
Mark my words and yours as well about that.
But you, you mentioned Andrew, England and uh he, he came up with something that may be the case for Trump's reelection.
Just to uh, to offer the other side of the debate here now uh, this is what Anglund wrote in in an article this week, with each event like Christchurch, each side is going to escalate.
As i've said repeatedly and as Tucker Carlson said on monday night, silence in speech leads to violence.
We actually just talked about that.
Uh, that will be the state's role.
The Antifa will escalate their violence and, of course, Muslims Will continue to escalate terrorist attacks.
There's simply no way to avoid Brenton Tarrant becoming a regular part of this cycle.
That is what multiculturalism was destined to lead to.
I understand why this is scary for a lot of people.
Some people are just nuts and can't wait to see everything kick off.
Neither is really a good position to be in.
A fatalistic position is much healthier.
Understand the inevitability and do everything you can to take care of yourself and your family.
Right now, you're in the calm before the storm.
Whatever you want to say about Donald Trump, and there's a lot I want to say about him, Andrew England writes.
He is holding back a full-scale crackdown on everything.
So I think that will be the case for Trump in 2020: as bad as it's been with the deplatforming, with all the oppression and censoring, it will be worse without him.
Yeah, I mean, England is kind of like, you know, similar to me in some respects.
We both agree that, you know, this violence thing, you know, what happened in New Zealand is just crazy.
We don't want no more Robert Bowers or Dylan Roos or guys like that.
I wish, you know, the political class would listen to people like us because a lot of people like look at the far left and they're like, you know, the crowd in Charlottesville, the social justice warrior crowd, and they're like, the only thing holding like back that mob is Donald Trump, right?
And that's a huge advantage for Donald Trump.
That is a huge attraction to people, right?
But, you know, I wish, you know, if there was someone like Yang in there who could just listen to like, if we could just, if they would just listen to what we're saying, I mean, they could make a lot of this go away, right?
But I don't think they don't even talk each other's language.
So I'm kind of making light of it with Star Trek analogy on my website.
Well, I think it is, if nothing else, it's a real indictment against what Trump has been able to do or what he's tried to do over the course of the first two and a half, almost three years of his term now.
That a guy like Andrew Yang would even be in the conversation for a guy like Brad Griffin.
Yeah, yeah.
Think about it this way.
You know, I'm a Lutheran, right?
And I look at Martin Luther, look how he spread all these ideas with me.
Well, not memes.
He had like, you know, the printing press back in the day.
But, you know, Luther's great accomplishment was translating the Bible to German, right?
So the ordinary people could get the message, whereas previously they hadn't been able to.
And I just wish, you know, our elite would listen to the kind of language that reasonable, intelligent men like me and you, James, are talking about because neither one of us really hate anybody.
We just want to fix this screwed-up country.
That's it.
We just won't like.
Well, we want to have the same rights and abilities as everybody else to be proud of our ancestors, to celebrate who we are, to have a little bit of this earth that God made for us that represents our culture.
Are you feeling woke, kind of like, you know, with this way we're talking?
Like, man, if we, if people just listen to us, we could like change so much about the world.
Because I feel kind of like I get it now, right?
Anyway.
No, of course.
I mean, that's why we're here.
That's why we do what we do and you do what you do, Brad, is because we think that our way is the way forward, that our way is very sensible.
It's very well-reasoned.
It's very rational.
But bottom line is, you think a guy like Yang would be better for us than Trump, even with, you know, in short of Yang being elected, what's going to happen in terms of crackdown?
I mean, I think some of the naysayers or some of the doomsday prophets are right about that.
I think we, you know, even I believe even Jared said recently that, you know, he could see within a couple of years, everybody's blown off the internet entirely.
That's even slightly right-of-center.
That could happen.
I mean, I mean, we'll see how it goes.
You know, a year and a, well, election's like a long time away, but a candidate who is who would be even better than either Trump or Yang would be right in the middle.
You know, if Yang and Trump just negotiated like a deal, I mean, came to a compromise like our two parties should.
I mean, like, so many people would be happy with that deal.
Well, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
If you had your pick and you could just pick the next, would you pick a guy like Fraser Anning over in Australia that we were talking about in the first hour?
It would be a guy like that, right?
In a perfect way.
I'm not that familiar with him.
I've been kind of like, you know, wound up like looking and analyzing all that's going on.
Well, I mean, you would pick a guy like, I mean, you're saying, though, essentially, I mean, if you could pick a perfect world, it would be us.
But, I mean, short of the, okay, but understanding we're not going to get a Fraser Anning who was the Australian senator who really said some sensible things after the mosque shooting.
I put some stuff on my Twitter up about him.
But short of having a dream candidate, you got to take the best of what's announced.
And you're saying at this point, perhaps it's Yang.
We'll be right back.
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Well, folks, we did it.
We really are going to fill a full hour on TPC with a talk about Andrew Yang, Brad Griffin, our guest, occidentaldescent.com.
I am there every day, folks.
You should be too.
It's my favorite website.
Oh, and by the way, of course, Jack Ryan is a weekly contributor to TPC too.
This is like the OD TPC crossover show tonight with Brad himself and, of course, Jack making his weekly contributions coming up at the third hour.
But of course, you heard last week, Brad, that Donald Trump said white nationalists are a small group of people that have very, very serious problems.
Now, Donald Trump himself is a white nationalist, depending on how you want to refer to it.
I mean, he's white and he claims to be a nationalist.
So, I mean, what is that?
It's not a white nationalist.
But what is he talking about here when he says that they're very sick people?
Is he talking about the shooters only?
He quite rightly said that there's not a growing concern of white nationalist violence and the facts backing up on that.
We talked about that in the first hour.
But of course, any president, any other elected official would have given the answer the media wanted to hear during that press conference.
Oh, yes, this is horrible.
You know, Elizabeth Warren says she's going to lock up every white nationalist when she becomes president.
And, you know, so again, there is, you know, at least a glimmer of saving grace with Trump.
I think it's going to be hard to get everybody off of that.
And again, I'm not saying I'm off of it necessarily.
I mean, there is a path forward where I may vote for him in the reelection.
Yeah.
We'll see.
But what do you think he was referring to there?
Was he talking about white nationalists as you and I understand the term to be, or was he talking about just the three or four murderous guys that everybody knows so much about?
There's a lot to unpack there.
First of all, like no one exactly, none of us know exactly how many explicitly ideological white nationalists are in America because the movement's so oppressed by this taboo system of total correctness that, you know, people are in the fringes, right?
They can't talk to each other or meet each other in real life.
So like no one really knows how many white nationalists are.
Now, white nationalism, as you know, James, overlaps with populism, nationalism, reactionary thought.
And people like me and you, you know, we're public with our identities because we have, you know, the virtue of integrity, right?
So we say what we believe.
Integrity is not considered a virtue in our society.
Whatever the Huffington Post is saying, that's, you know, what's the definition of goodness?
But I think Trump is right that explicit, openly, white nationalists are a small number because they're so repressed, right?
Now, but like, there's a lot, I mean, our basic orientation is like people are of white America, a huge percentage of white America is concerned about this coming white minority, this loss of majority status.
There's a lot of racial anxiety out there in the electorate.
I think we're just channeling that and thinking through it and trying to find like some kind of, I don't know, some kind of reasonable system, some kind of better country.
It's a radical concept.
Well, Brad, hold on right there.
I want to read one more passage.
Brad took a three-day fast last week, folks, and it put his brain into overdrive because he posted about an article every 10 minutes last week.
I don't know what was going on there, but when you fast, I guess that happens.
So I want to read another excerpt from something you wrote this week, Brad.
The strategy that inspired the attack on the mosques in New Zealand is called accelerationism.
Basically, accelerationism is the idea that white nationalists have no hope of ever being accepted in the mainstream society because of left-wing journalists and groups like the SPLC.
Conservatism has failed them.
It has failed their countries.
Nothing will ever change until our civilization becomes so polarized that it falls apart in a violent, apocalyptic civil war.
What happens when you force people who disagree with you to shut up?
What happens when you ignore their grievances?
What happens when you give them no hope or room for a positive sense of identity?
When they have no political representation or place in the economy, well, they become desperate enough to resort to sporadic, nihilistic violence to bring about the change as we saw again in New Zealand.
These people, these are people who desperately want to be heard by the bankrupt political establishment.
I don't think any of that is necessary.
I am an accelerationist, but a different kind of one.
I believe in accelerating the collapse of Conservatism Incorporated and the Republican Party, which is preying on their racial and cultural anxieties in order to advance their inhumane economic agenda.
That is why I, Brad Griffin, am going to vote for Andrew Yang in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Unlike Donald Trump, I think Yang listens to people like us.
Sometimes all it takes to stop these angry people in their tracks is to listen to them and reason with them and try to compromise.
And I think that is a better idea than anything the GOP or the SPLC is offering.
I now think we need an intelligent, pragmatic centrist in the White House to tackle our 21st century problems, not a two-bit celebrity con artist who hosted a reality TV show and sold out his supporters.
That's strong stuff, Brad.
Yeah.
Well, you know, one of the, you're going to laugh when I tell you this, but one of the side effects of, you know, fasting is mental clarity, right?
You feel kind of woozy, but you feel, now I've been doing it because, you know, I gained a lot of weight, so I've been on keto, right?
So I'm kind of combining keto with three-day fast with studying our political system and mocking it and like writing punditry on the blog.
And so just a lot of things clicked after I did that three-day fast.
A lot of things I've been working for for years.
And now I feel like I've solved.
I'm like trying to write like, I wasn't going to write a book.
Decided to do that, but I know he's going to write on my blog.
I mean, that's like, to draw an analogy from Luther, your blog is like the church door in Wittenberg, right?
Anyone can read, you know, what's on that church door.
They can take those ideas, that rhetoric.
They can do whatever they want with it.
And that's what I'm doing.
I'll tell you what, Martin Luther wasn't, Martin Luther, the real one, that wasn't a guy who hid his candle under a bushel.
I can tell you that.
I'm surprised that they still let you call yourself.
He sure was.
I mean, he's a hero of mine.
He's a hero of any truth teller.
Martin Luther, I'm surprised that they still allow the church to call itself Lutheran.
I mean, that's a guy that he didn't hold back.
A true hero of the faith, a true hero of our race.
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
I mean, if we just had that motto in the world, there's no politician in Washington that has that motto.
Me and you do.
Well, here I stand.
Yeah, we do.
That's for sure.
That is one of the all-time greatest quotes in history.
I mean, we talked about a Patrick Clayburn quote earlier, but yeah, here I stand.
I mean, that says it in three words.
Martin Luther, folks, look him up if you need to know, if you need to be reminded.
But in any event, Brad, so we're talking about the repression, the censorship.
I was talking during the break with Sam, and we were just talking, if it continues on, I mean, there really is a realistic scenario where another civil war could happen.
If they continue to oppress and to censor to such an extent, if they accelerate that, I mean, what are the odds?
Is there any path forward for Southern nationalism?
Is there any path towards that to where success, you know, I would say it's a long way off now.
I mean, it's really unimaginable, but is there an alternate universe somewhere in the future where southern nationalism and secession could become in vogue again?
Yeah, I mean, I know that was the hope, you know, 20 years ago or so.
If things got bad enough and the whole system collapsed and it was like some kind of violent thing, I don't think any of that's necessary.
Let's accelerate our minds.
Let's accelerate, clean up our discourse is what I'm trying to do.
Kind of like change the way we improve it, right?
I mean, look, the all-right had an economic, not, I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of my house though.
The alt-right had a thesis about Jews.
It had a thesis about race.
It needs one about culture and economics.
And it needs to like the language and the discourse needs to be cleaned up a bit and kind of moderated.
And hell, you know, it'll come out sounding French once you do that.
So that's what I'm trying to do.
Just a realization hit me all of a sudden like a thunderbolt.
Well, folks, be a part of Brad's continuing evolution and realizations at occidentaldescent.com.
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Talking about Andrew Yang for the bulk of this hour tonight, Brad, we have about two minutes remaining.
So we've all known, we talked about it briefly last week about Morris D's being fired.
Now, Richard Cohen has resigned his tenure as president of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
He's with the two top guys, the top two guys in the whole thing.
Is there any way that this is actually going to hurt that hate group?
You know, I hope, you know, I hear they have some job openings.
I just wish me, people like me, you and Sam, Andrew Hanglin and Greg Johnson, just get all of us to move into the Southern Poverty Law Center with that $350 million thumb and just create a think tank out of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Poverty Palace.
And let's clean up the hate in America as radical centrists, as middle American radicals with radical, reasonable proposals.
You know, that's the irony.
If everybody on the hate group, which I have proudly populated for the, you know, the last 13 years is if all of us were, if all of us were actually in charge of the Southern Poverty Party, if everybody on the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate watch was actually in charge of the Southern Poverty Law Center, there would be a lot less hate in the world.
Exactly.
I mean, that's the true irony of it all.
Yeah, the hugest irony in the world.
Let's fix the Southern poverty problem, the hate problem.
Just put us in charge.
I mean, I hope someone listens.
Well, we're certainly available, and they certainly got the money.
I think they could afford us.
Yeah, we need the money.
But I don't think Mo D's and Richard Cohen didn't land with anything other than a golden parachute.
I think they're going to be fine as octogenarians with multi-million dollars in the bank.
I'm just relieved they won't be lording it over us, you know, like the Antichrist anymore.
You know, you kind of miss them at the end of the day.
I mean, every hero needs a villain and vice versa.
So I'm sure somebody, you know, it's going to be, it's going to be lower tier.
I mean, it's going to be, I guarantee you, somebody that takes their place is going to be somebody like Stacey Abrams.
I mean, it's going to be somebody of that.
That's probably the people who are making the complaints about them.
Anyway, Brad, what a great show.
What a great hour.
We'll be back.
Rich Hamblin, our good friend, is going to be with us in just a few minutes.
And we've still got a lot to talk about the third hour.
OccidentalDescent.com support Brad.
Thank you, brother.
Talk to you again soon.
You too, James.
See you.
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