Sept. 15, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Well, folks, if we made it any better than this, we'd have to charge you admission.
What a fantastic show so far tonight and still to come.
During that first hour, you heard from our good friend Lana from Red Ice and also newcomer John Wesley, host of the brand new podcast, Identity Rising.
So Lana, a mainstay, John, an up-and-comer, they're in the first hour.
And the third hour tonight, still to come.
Another old friend of mine, Dr. Michael Hill of the League of the South, but now another all-star.
The hits keep on coming with Mark Weber, the director of the Institute for Historical Review.
He has made 100 appearances on this show if he's made one.
He's an historian, a lecturer, current affairs analyst, and author, as you know.
He was educated in the United States and Europe.
He holds a master's degree in modern European history.
And we're going to cover a wide variety of topics with Mark tonight.
Now, there are some guests that have a niche.
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And you bring them on to talk exclusively and specifically about that singular topic.
Now, certainly, Mark has his niches and his areas of expertise as well.
But much more than that, Mark is, as I said at the top of the show tonight, a utility man.
Mark is one of those guests you can bring on to talk about absolutely anything, and he will talk about it with authority and a lot of knowledge and wisdom.
And so that's why he is such a regular repeat guest on the show.
Well, one of many reasons, I guess I should say.
Mark, welcome back.
Thank you very much, James, for having me on.
It's a pleasure once again.
There's a lot happening and a lot to talk about.
Well, we had you on doing our Midsummer Review series.
And, well, I just exited out of our lineup for the entire year.
I had that in front of me on my notes here a minute ago.
But we had a two-week series a couple of months ago.
I know Jared Taylor was on.
Mark, well, obviously you were on.
Kevin McDonald, Paul Kersey.
And there's a couple I'm not thinking of, but there was a couple of more.
We had several guests in a two-week period, a little midsummer review.
Now, we had you on that.
That was your most recent appearance.
And we had you on for 30 minutes.
We're going to have you on for the entire hour tonight, and we've got a lot to cover.
So let's get started.
And first I want to ask you about Mark.
You've got a little, I'd say little, not so little.
You've got a billboard campaign for the IHR that's making some news.
Let's start there, and then we'll go forward.
Right.
Yes.
At the beginning of this month, until the end of the month, we have electronic display boards at two train stations in San Francisco, Powell Street and Montgomery Street, right downtown in San Francisco.
And this has generated a good bit of media attention.
It's gotten Fox News, the local newspapers in California, local television stations, video reports.
The focus is not on the billboards.
It's really on how bad we are.
The billboards do nothing more than say history matters, and it has the name Institute for Historical Review and our logo and a globe in the back.
That's all.
But for the usual suspects, this is a tremendous provocation.
This is just they're just angry as all get out.
One of the Jewish community newspapers in California reported that the ADL and the Jewish Community Council are putting pressure, that's the word they use, on the BART, the Bay Area Rapid Transit Authority, to do whatever they can to try to stop this.
Now, BART has defended its decision to permit these display boards because there's no legal grounds on which to stop it, and we would win a lawsuit if we brought a lawsuit to defend it.
As I said, all the message is on the board is simply history matters, but the fact that it says Institute for Historical Review has really gotten, really stirred the pot up with many of these people with a lot of media attention, including The Guardian, The Independent and The Daily Mail in Britain, Fox News, as I mentioned, Jewish community papers, and so forth.
Anyway, that's what we're involved with right now, and that's sort of doing what it's supposed to.
But once again, it really underscores the just unbelievable bias and hostility of the media.
I mean, typically what they do is to tell about the IHR, they don't let you know what the IHR says.
They don't provide links to the IHR.
They provide links to the SPLC or the ADL.
They're supposed to inform you in some sort of even-handed way what we're doing, which is, of course, the absolute opposite of what journalism ought to be.
But as you know, James, that's how things work in America nowadays.
But anyway, that's got us a good bit of attention recently, and that'll be playing out until the end of the month.
Well, I am surprisingly impressed with the decision by BART, I mean, which is the transit authority there in the San Francisco area.
Certainly the law would be on your side, but that by no means means you would win in court.
I mean, look at my defamation suit with having been called the leader of the Ku Klux Klan.
And obviously, you know how the courts are in this day and age, but I am.
They did the right thing.
I mean, we shouldn't necessarily applaud people for doing the right thing.
That should be the default position for most decent people.
But unfortunately, today, a man that will do the right thing when there is something to lose or when there is a price to pay is the big difference, James, is the big difference is that this is a public agency.
And they can't be arbitrary in the way that a private newspaper or television station can be.
It's the reason why the Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee permits the Amran conferences, because it's a public agency, and they have to, they cannot be discriminating in a blatant way in the way that private companies are able to get away with.
Of course.
Well, it is a fantastic billboard, and I have seen it.
And as just Mark said, and it's a great tagline, history matters.
Now, if that's, those two words should pique the interest of people, and I'm sure that's why it became the billboard.
History matters.
It's got the IHR logo and then IHR.org.
And then, of course, people, if their interest has been peaked, can go to the website, and then they will get real history there.
And, of course, as Mark may have expected, there has been some blowback from the usual suspects.
But I would ask you this, Mark, do you think San Francisco is a particularly good market for right-thinking people to receive this message?
No, no.
I mean, the importance of it is not the billboards itself as much as the media attention that the billboard has set off.
Far more people hear about the IHR because of articles and on websites around the world than they do from the billboard itself.
I mean, I'm sure that people who see the billboard in the station sort of glance up and halfway pay attention to it, and it doesn't matter.
What's more important is the tremendous media attention that has gotten so many, many articles have appeared.
Some of them do include links to the IHR website, and it helps our traffic and brings attention because you know the enemy is so eager to stamp down the latest bit of opposition to its power that it almost fights.
Mark, hold on right there.
We're coming up on a break, and it's good timing, too, because there was a little bit of distortion in the last couple of seconds.
And so we're going to let our producer troubleshoot with you during the break, make sure we've got a good, solid connection and there's not anything on our end.
And we'll do that during the break, and we'll come back.
We'll talk more about this with Mark Weber, but much more to come.
We're going to talk about this, and then we've got several other topics of interest that we're Abby Johnson was once director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bryan, Texas.
After a moral crisis, she quit, and now she campaigns against what she wants endorsed.
They implement abortion quotas in all of their clinics.
What do you mean, quotas?
You have to perform a certain number of abortions every month.
One of the reasons that I left?
Yes, it's in your budget, right there on the line item.
One of the reasons I left Planned Parenthood was because in a budget meeting, I was told to double that abortion quota.
And for me, as someone who had spoken to the media and had said, you know, we're about reducing the number of abortions, we're about, you know, prevention, all these other services, I was shocked.
So since you actually worked at a Planned Parenthood, give us some sense of the relative number of abortions.
Okay, Abortions Planned Parenthood provides over 330,000 abortions a year.
They are the largest single abortion provider in our country.
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Okay, folks, for the entirety of this, our second hour, we have for you Mark Weber, director of the Institute for Historical Review, IHR.org.
I am actually there right now.
I am looking at the website as we speak.
And right there, the top right corner, you see the headline, IHR Billboard in San Francisco Transit Stations Generates Wide Media Attention.
Now, that was the topic that we were talking about with Mark during our first segment of this hour.
And if you want to read more about it, if you actually want to see what the billboard looks like, you can do that at ihr.org.
I want to transition now, Mark, because as you said, you and I were text, or rather emailing one another throughout the week to come up with some ideas for the show, how we would feel this hour.
And I know we've got a lot more to do tonight.
So for people still interested about the billboard campaign, ihr.org, you can read more about it.
Now, Mark, my first guest tonight was Lana Lochdev of Red Ice.
And as you may know, there was some media attention that was heaped upon her this week because she had put forth a tweet that featured a picture of three blonde-haired, blue-eyed children, very attractive boys and girls.
And she captioned it by writing, according to Bono, that's the musician of U2, the band, if your Swedish kids look like this, they're Nazis, under which she wrote, no, they are adorable and everyone knows it.
In response to that, Steve King actually retweeted Lana and wrote, Nazi is injected into leftist talking points because the worn out and exhausted racist is overused and applied to everyone who lacks melanin and who failed to virtue signal at the requisite frequency and decibels.
So, Mark, that being said, when you have a sitting United States Congressman in a re-election year retweeting Lana and talking about sensible things, I mean, what he said was completely non-controversial to a normal person and 100% accurate.
But that leads us into another thing that you and I are going to talk about tonight.
Was President Kennedy a fascist?
Now, before we get to that, would you like to respond to the Steve King Lana Lochdiff media manufactured story and his response to what she said?
And I think it indicates that things are beginning to break.
The lines are beginning to break on this totalitarian, this soft totalitarian tyranny that we have with regards to freedom of thought here in this country.
But I've been long-winded enough.
Go, Mark.
Right.
Well, I think what more and more people are realizing that to continue on the path that we've been going on for a long time means basically extinguishing the white race in America and in Europe.
That's what's going on.
The price that whites are expected to pay for equality is basically suicidal.
That's what's going on.
And more and more people, I think, understand that and realize that that's why there's a growing upsurge in Europe and even in the United States against not merely this kind of outrageous, the rhetoric and so forth, but the whole trend of the last 20, 40, 50, 80 years, because people can see that, I think with ever greater clarity, that this trajectory,
this insistence on egalitarianism and colorblindness ultimately means the extinction of the white race in America and in Europe.
And that's more and more obvious to more and more people.
And it's, I think, going to be, and in fact, has to be more and more a focus and an overt thing than it has been.
And that's, I think we're just seeing that as a trend going on all over the place.
Well, I think when you have a sitting United States congressman basically speaking out on what we all know to be true, that according to today's controlled press, the lying press, anyone to the right of Stalin is a Nazi, you're beginning to show some fissures in their defense.
Now, you went on to say that by modern standards, perhaps even President Kennedy was a fascist.
Tell us a little more about what you're thinking about.
Well, I mean, it's obviously partly tongue-in-cheek, but the big point is, first of all...
Uh-oh, did we lose Mark?
Or did we lose...
Okay, so our producer is going to check in with Mark.
It's a long way from Tennessee to California.
It's sort of like being, that is international calling, as far as I'm concerned.
And it's sort of like when we have to call our guests in Europe or Australia or wherever, that things can happen.
I mean, that is a long way away.
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We don't know exactly.
He's on a landline.
I mean, it's not even internet-based, so it's not like the internet's messing up tonight.
At least it's not us tonight.
You know, sometimes it's us, and we don't like that to be the case.
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But when it is live radio, sometimes things happen.
So we're going to continue to reach out to Mark, and we will get him back in a second.
But I've got a lot of other things I could be talking about.
While we're waiting, oh, I'll tell you one thing I'll talk to you about while we're waiting on Mark to return.
I had the opportunity just a couple of days ago to sit in with Ken Gividin, the Daily Ken himself, and my old friend Kyle Rogers on Ken's YouTube channel.
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But if you don't, midweek we're going to post a video of that, my conversation with Ken Gividin and Kyle Rogers.
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So, Mark, you were telling us that it was a little bit tongue-in-cheek.
Is Kennedy a fascist?
But you were going to continue to expand it.
My point is that when Kennedy was president, he supported policies that by today's standards are considered just completely off the wall.
But remember, in 1960, there wasn't any talk of gay rights.
Homosexuality was shameful.
It was the pressed.
It was treated as criminal behavior.
And John Kennedy supported that, along with everybody else back then.
In those days, abortion was illegal in most of the United States.
It wasn't a right guaranteed now, according to the Supreme Court of the United States.
And John Kennedy believed that abortion should be illegal and it should be, it's not a right.
I mean, just on those two issues alone, anybody politician today who espouses those views would be considered just to the somewhere near Genghis Khan, I suppose.
But there's another aspect of it, too, about John Kennedy that would, by today's standards, mark him as completely unacceptable.
And that is, earlier on in his life, he said things about Hitler that for most people, that would just mean he's not fit for public office.
He wrote this in 1945 when he visited Europe at the end of World War II and traveled around much of Europe as a correspondent for the Hearst newspaper chain.
And in his diary, he wrote that after visiting these places, including in Germany where Hitler was, he says you can easily understand how that within a few years, he wrote, Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived.
And he said also that about Hitler, he had a mystery about him and the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him.
He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.
Well, you can imagine, Mark, I don't mean to interrupt you, but can you imagine if Donald Trump was Hitler?
That would be that just be the end of his career.
That'd be the finish.
Anyway, just these are examples of how things have changed so much that attitudes about race and about history that used to be unobjectionable, didn't cause any kind of stir, are now considered completely off the wall.
I mean, when I- I hold on right there, hold on right there.
I know we're coming up on a break.
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Okay, back with Mark Weber.
Still a lot of ground to cover.
We're about to get into the topic of why conservatives can't win.
Now, that's been certainly talked about in our circles for a long time.
We're going to get Mark's take on it tonight.
A new take on an old topic, I guess you could say.
But I want to go back because I think this is a fascinating topic.
Was President Kennedy a fascist?
Well, certainly every single American president before Kennedy was, by modern day definitions, a white supremacist, to be sure, by modern day's definition.
Not to say that they were or not, but by modern day's definition, every single president before Kennedy was a white supremacist.
Now, was Kennedy himself a fascist by the modern day definition?
That's what Mark's talking about.
But just for Kennedy to have said what he said about Adolf Hitler, you know, to not completely go into the tank and just to talk sensibly and to talk reasonably doesn't mean you were pro-Hitler.
It just, you can have a conversation.
You can be an adult without having to shout this religious, this pseudo-religious dogma that we've got now.
It goes to show how much the country has fallen since even the 60s.
But I say, Mark, though, and I said this earlier tonight, I think that they have become so rigid.
Everybody's a Nazi now.
Steve King's a Nazi because he had a Confederate flag on his desk.
He's a white supremacist because he says Western civilization was good, because he said the media is quick to label everyone that's even moderately conservative a Nazi in this day and age.
The fact that they are calling Steve King a Nazi and a white supremacist, Congressman King, I think they're cracking.
Well, right.
I mean, the reason I focused on Kennedy, and as you pointed out, it could apply to many other American presidents up until, say, the 1960s.
The reason I mentioned Kennedy is only because he's an icon for liberals.
He's an icon for almost, I mean, if people look back, you ask him, well, who do you like?
They would say John F. Kennedy.
But so that's why I've just sort of tongue-in-cheek because the word fascism has no real content or objective meaning.
It's just thrown around for people, hurled out of people they just don't like.
If you're in favor, what, of a big government or a big military, does that make someone a fascist?
The word is really meaningless.
But when I hear it thrown around repeatedly, constantly, in the mainstream media, CNN called the people who demonstrate against taking down Confederate monuments fascists.
I thought, well, what does that mean?
Are they followers of Mussolini?
What does this mean?
You know, the symbol of fascism, the fascists, it's an ancient Roman symbol, is the official symbol of the U.S. Senate.
Is the United States Senate fascist?
These words, again, just thrown around.
And this gets to a bigger problem with the media, with everything else.
We're talking across purposes.
You know, six centuries before Jesus, Confucius said something like, when people are not clear about definitions, then from that confusion, great evil arises.
And that's really very true.
And people are not precise in what they mean by words they use.
That's a very, very dangerous thing because we're then, we're off in a sort of cloud cuckoo land.
And that's what's happening with the American media.
You know, something's obviously wrong.
Polls show a majority of Americans, whether they call themselves conservatives or liberals, they say they don't trust the media.
And the coverage of the IHR Billboard ad is just, for me, a particularly noteworthy example of that kind of blatant bias in the media that we're all familiar with.
And of course, you're very familiar with James yourself.
But this is part of, these are all signs of a society that's just lost its moorings.
And more and more people knew that.
The problem is very few people have a clear vision of where they want to go.
And that gets us to the next subject, the next topic about conservatives.
That's one of the reasons why conservatives look back over four, five, six decades of retreat and failure because they don't have very solid principles or a vision of where they're going.
They're constantly losing ground to liberals who do have a much more focused idea of where they're going.
It might be the wrong idea.
It's wrong.
But they have an idea and they push for it.
And conservatives don't.
There's a few exceptions, but overwhelmingly, conservatives are just holding on.
They're trying to tap the brakes on a bus that's heading downhill.
Well, of course, R.L. Dabney noted that, as you well know, Mark, Stonewall Jackson's chaplain back in the 1800s.
And it certainly has only gotten worse since then.
So we're talking about why conservatives can't win.
We will talk more about that.
But first, we don't typically take callers on this show.
Callers call in a lot, but we are always so stretched for time.
We got three hours a week and we got to make every minute count.
And certainly our callers do contribute to that most of the time.
We're going to take a caller now from Nancy.
I haven't been to California, Mark, since 2000 when I was there with Pat Buchanan.
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It's been a long time since I visited your nation over there.
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But we have Nancy from California.
So you're bringing out the Californians tonight who are tuned in.
Nancy, a question or comment for Mark Weber.
I'm going to make it real fast since I know your time is precious.
We don't win because we don't go around murdering because we have a superior moral code, although it gives them the upper hand because they can lie, they can steal, they can kill, and they do.
Like James Traffic, in my opinion, was murdered.
He was A force to be reckoned with.
Well, thank you for that call, Nancy, and for that comment.
John F. Kennedy, they kill all the good ones, all the powerful ones, all of our leaders.
They take him out.
That's all I have to say.
Well, we've certainly seen that in the past.
There's no doubt about that.
Obviously, we are a people who don't advocate for violence.
We don't advocate for illegality.
Unfortunately, that does tie our hands behind our backs in many cases because our enemies are certainly very adept and very eager to do that towards people like us.
And at the very least, they're going to smear us to the point that, to the point of absurdity, certainly, but also to the point where you're marginalized in some ways.
And our guest tonight, I'm telling you, people like Mark Weber should have, in a just society, they would have their own shows on Fox News.
Mark Weber is one of the most brightest, most sincere, most articulate spokesmen that our cause has.
Mark, if you would like to respond in any way to Nancy's call from California, you could talk about it.
I would say it's a little worse than that.
I think most conservatives are still trying to hold on to an America that slipped away, long ago slipped away.
And in this battle, and it is a battle, they're playing softball while the enemy's playing hardball.
They can't win because they're playing different kinds of games.
The enemy is playing for keeps.
They have an image, a goal that conservatives aren't able really to match.
And that's already bad.
I mean, the point she's making, I understand, I wouldn't put it that way.
But it's really, there is a big, she puts her finger on a very important thing.
They're just playing different kinds of games.
The enemy is willing to play really hardball while most conservatives are still trying to play by rules that have long ago been thrown aside.
Right.
And certainly, I want to reiterate the point that in no way have we ever, nor will we ever, advocate for violence or illegality, but that is something.
You know, when you have an homogenous, high-trust society, that works well.
That's the way it should be done.
In our present situation, our people have maintained law and order.
Our people revere law and order.
Our people revere morals and manners and righteous thinking and all good things.
Unfortunately, our enemy does not play by that.
And that does put us at a deficit.
Not to say that we should adopt the tactics of the left.
Certainly we shouldn't.
But it is something that we have to consider when we're going against such an evil and such a repugnant and lowbrow opposition.
And I think we can all agree on that.
So getting back to why conservatives can't win, Mark, I tell you, every time you're on, it goes by far too quickly.
Now, we do certainly have you for another segment, but I feel as though this interview only just has only just begun, and yet we're now three segments in.
But continue on until the music starts, and we'll start any second, and then we got you for one more segment.
Go.
Well, yeah, I mean, an example of what you're talking about is how liberals tolerate cities and counties and politicians openly defying our immigration laws.
They set up what they call sanctuary cities.
They applaud that.
They think that's okay.
But when conservatives do anything that is contrary to the law, they just hammer down on them saying, oh, you've got to uphold the law.
You know, I mean, during the 1960s, civil rights movement, our government permitted all sorts of lawlessness in the battle for civil rights, but that's considered okay because it was for a good cause.
And anyway, there's just countless examples of that, and that's true.
But that's why I think it's very important to have an outlook that understands how this is really a fight for survival.
It's a fight for very fundamental things, and it can't be done by just playing by being very rude but polite.
Well, that's for sure.
That's for sure.
That doesn't mean that we have, it is certainly the, well, we'll talk about when we come back.
The music's playing.
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Well, folks, we only have the best of the best on this show, that's for sure.
And you look back on our guest list, well, going back to 2004, you could do that, but certainly in 2018.
And it is the best of the best.
And tonight's show is the best of the best.
Lana Lochta for the first hour, John Wesley, Dr. Michael Hill in the third hour.
Right now, our guest Michael Hill, or rather, Mark Weber, of course, from the Institute of Historical Review.
Now, Mark and I were, as I mentioned earlier, batting around ideas for tonight's show.
Mark's so eloquent, even over email, that I'd like to read to you what he wrote to me with regard to this current topic we're discussing, why conservatives can't win.
This is what Mark had to say.
Over the past century, quote-unquote conservatives have drastically shifted their views, retreating and then abandoning their stands on one issue after another, including social security, quote-unquote civil rights, desegregation, Martin Luther King Day, quote-unquote gay rights, quote-unquote affirmative action, and much more.
On any given issue, the conservative view of the day is often the liberal view of 10 years earlier.
This dismal record is entirely predictable, given that, with few exceptions, so-called conservatives have no coherent worldview or guiding principles.
As the Trump experience underscores, so-called conservatives are much more motivated by what they oppose, fear, and hate than by any solidly grounded principles, enduring ideals, or inspiring vision of the future.
Mark continues, conservatives are more willing than liberal or leftists to acknowledge racial realities, at least in private, but they are unwilling to speak frankly and openly about these realities in public.
Publicly, they applaud and support the same so-called colorblind principles of equality that liberals emphatically promote.
Conservatives then wage a predictably hopeless rearguard battle to resist policies based on the egalitarian universalist principles they publicly embrace.
That's why Ronald Reagan's amnesty of some 3 million illegal immigrants was not a quote-unquote mistake.
It was entirely consistent with his often repeated view of America as a colorblind nation that welcomes all who love freedom.
Even while losing the war, conservatives are thrilled with the occasional tactical victories that are essentially meaningless in the overall trajectory of our times.
Mark, that was beautiful.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just, it's a sad thing how many conservatives get very excited because this congressman might get elected here or they get something through at a state legislature there.
But over the last 20, 30 years, the trajectory is very, very obvious to anybody who takes a longer view of the whole situation.
And it's dismal.
It's awful.
Because when I say that conservatives, with very few exceptions, lack any real principles, they keep emphasizing individual rights.
Well, that's important, but it's not the most important thing.
Individual rights are valuable, of course, but by one standard, you could say we have more individual rights than ever.
I mean, America during 1930, you couldn't buy a beer in a restaurant.
You couldn't have a glass of wine in a hotel.
Now, we have all sorts of rights that we didn't have 20 or 30 years ago.
Men can marry men.
You can smoke marijuana legally in most of the United States.
In one sense, I mean, liberals are constantly pushing for more individual rights.
And in a sense, we have more individual rights, but we're losing our soul.
We're losing who we are.
And that's more important than the so-called rights of the individual.
Well, Mark, I couldn't agree more.
And I appreciate the eloquence with which you put forth that to our audience this evening.
Now, I want to remind everyone again to support the work of this man.
We wouldn't give an hour of airtime to Mark.
We wouldn't have had Mark on as many times as we've had him on.
I love Mark.
I love his work.
Every time our paths cross, it's always good to see him.
And of course, Mark, you and I were, we got together earlier in the summer.
And it's always a pleasure to have you on.
And with the time remaining, I want to remind everyone once again to go to ihr.org.
That's the Institute for Historical Review, iHR.org.
There you'll be plugged into everything Mark's up to, and you can get all the information you need to know, iHr.org.
Mark, we've got about six minutes remaining in the hour.
And of course, for the rest of you, in the third hour, don't go anywhere.
Dr. Michael Hill will be our guest.
A third hour.
A lot of locked up for the first hour.
Now, Mark Weber.
Mark, six minutes remaining.
Take it any direction you want to go.
What do you want to talk about?
What haven't we covered that you'd really like to share with our audience?
You said the last time you were in California was at that Reform Party convention.
I was there as well at that.
I didn't know you then, though.
That's a shame.
No, we didn't know each other.
We might have seen each other.
There were other people there, I think, who we both knew in common.
Sure.
And again, you see, that's, I mean, that was a bold effort, and it was a terrific thing.
And Pat Buchanan is an admirable man, but Americans didn't want to rally around him because he's considered extremist.
And so many of our people are afraid to be called names.
They're afraid to be castigated in our media.
And unless we realize that that just comes with the territory, that's just going to happen because the enemy will not hesitate to smear people unfairly in that kind of way.
That's, I mean, in other words, it requires an outlook that's not just conservative in principle, but more than conservative in temperament.
In other words, we're not just trying to preserve a way of life in America.
We have to have a very forthright attitude toward these issues because the trend isn't going to get reversed by just trying to tap on the brakes as we careen and continue downhill.
It's a recurring comment on this show, but I know that it's unpleasant.
God knows I know.
And you know, Mark, it's unpleasant to be called all of these nonsensical names, names that we are most certainly not.
But at the end of the day, it does pale in comparison to real sacrifice, sacrifice of one's life and livelihood that so many of our forebears had to give.
And in my case, so many of my Confederate forebears.
I mean, I've given nothing compared to the sacrifice that they made.
And that can be said for you as well, Mark, and for all of us.
I don't want to interrupt, James, but this is a very important point.
Our ancestors, many of them, sacrificed far more for, in a sense, much less.
I mean, The American Civil War cost, what, 300,000 young American lives to try to keep America.
Yeah, that was just in the South, about 600,000, 700,000 total.
Right, right.
I mean, and that's a tremendous sacrifice.
And whatever sacrifices we make are just, they just pale in comparison to that.
And the stakes are much greater.
They're far greater today than they were back then.
Because whether North and South was in the same political unit or they were separate, there was still a basis for looking to the future with hope in a way that now is very, very dismal.
And that means a kind of attitude of self-sacrifice and dedication is all the more important today in many ways and yet more rare than it was for our ancestors a century and a half ago.
Well, thankfully, Mark, we have people like you to show us the way.
IHR.org, ladies and gentlemen.
And we talked about my Confederate forebears.
Of course, Mark, you are a native Oregonian now in California.
Our people wouldn't even make the Oregon Trail these days, though.
I mean, that was a sacrifice.
Right, right.
Well, yes.
I mean, my ancestors did not.
Well, I did have ancestors in Louisiana.
So maybe some of them were in the, maybe some of them were in the Confederate.
I'm sure they were.
They had to be for you to be where you are now.
That came from somewhere.
I believe in genetic predisposition.
You know, you look, I'll get into this with Michael Hill in the next segment, but the closest we will ever get to immortality is through our genes.
And I was looking at a picture on Twitter.
It was very striking.
It was three people who are alive today standing next to pictures of their ancestors who lived hundreds of years prior, and they were almost mirror images.
I mean, it was remarkable.
It almost looked like they were identical twins.
We're talking about people alive in 2018 standing next to pictures of their ancestors, portraits of their ancestors who lived hundreds of years ago, and they looked identical.
That is immortality.
That is in our genes.
And this fighting spirit is handed down to us.
Mark, it was handed down to you somewhere.
I can guarantee you that.
Well, one point that you're making, I wish so many of our younger people would look upon exactly what you said in the same way.
That is having children.
You know, for most of human history, if people had sex, they had children.
Now, that doesn't necessarily follow.
And so many people decide not to have children in a way that our ancestors would not have had to make that decision.
And that's a sad thing because the future is only going to belong to those people who do have children.
And so many people, even good people on our side, don't have children.
Well, that's right.
I mean, you see it a lot in our ranks.
And that's unfortunate.
And white people have been particularly afflicted with this notion that we ought not reproduce.
White people seem to be reproducing less, I should say, than everyone else.
And that's a shame.
Yeah.
Well, James, I mean, this is, I think, a really important point.
And I think many people don't realize what they're missing out either.
I mean, having children is an enormously fulfilling thing.
And many people put it off because of the difficulties or the sacrifices that are necessary to be made to have children.
It's really a small price to pay for the tremendous joy and fulfillment that children bring.
I've got two.
I wish I had 10 more.
It's the best thing I've ever done.
Thank you, Mark.
IHR.org, everybody.
Mark, let's do it again soon.
It was a fantastic hour of radio.
Thanks to you.
Mark Webb.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
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