June 9, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, TPC family, welcome to tonight's live broadcast of our show.
It is great to be here with you tonight.
I would even like to welcome the Southern Poverty Law Center to the show and all of our friends in the establishment media.
Kind of wise to the fact that the SPLC may be doing a story on the situation involving yours truly in the Southern Baptist Convention.
We'll see if it comes out.
I'm always thankful for the publicity that they've given me over the years.
I am in a particularly good mood tonight.
I'm always in a good mood when I'm spending time with you.
What can I say?
And I'm not just saying that.
I think maybe last week, if ever my good-natured and gregarious self had ever been just slightly melancholy, last week may have been it.
I think you got to liken it to this, ladies and gentlemen.
My career in radio for the last 14 years, it's been like walking headstrong into a category five hurricane for 14 years.
Now, imagine doing that.
Sometimes the hurricane may knock you slightly off balance, but you never lose your stride.
And I think that's analogous to the way I've always seemed to take all of these attacks and smears and unjust occurrences with a pep in my step and a smile in my heart.
Pat Buchanan once put it that those who best understand the strength of a tide have the courage to swim against it.
Or rather, those who best understand the strength of a tide are those who swim against it.
And I'm proud to be one of you.
And I'm proud that so many of you out there in my listening audience are with me and share that courage.
The feedback I've gotten from TPC Nation since last Saturday's show has just been incredible.
Now, you guys, y'all are always very, you always demonstrate an outpouring of your affection.
And I get the most personal letters from our audience, audience members that in some cases I've never even met before, in many cases that I've never even met before, sharing out things that are going on in their family.
Sharing me the ups and the downs, the sicknesses, the deaths, marriages, things that they're happy about, things that burden their hearts.
This audience shares that with me.
It's a family.
And when one member of the family comes under attack, as a listener in Arkansas told me last week, the family comes to rally behind that one.
And I would do it for you, and I have, and you do it for me, and you always do.
And that's why the relationship that we share is just so special.
This is our audience.
Good people.
Decent people, righteous people.
This is my niche.
This is my flock.
The things that we talk about on this radio program, other right-of-center shows don't talk about.
Even other racially conscious organizations and podcasts, they don't talk about.
But we talk about the things that matter to us.
I was talking to a very dear friend in Tulsa, Oklahoma, just minutes before we came on the air tonight.
And he said, This is who you minister to.
This is who you reach.
You reach.
Well, I mean, you know what the political cesspool audience is.
It's a conservative audience.
It's an honest audience.
It's a Christian audience, by and large, but certainly not universally speaking.
But I have never wanted to be anybody else.
I've never wanted to have another audience.
I've only wanted the audience that cares about the things that I have to talk about.
And I share myself fully and completely with this audience.
And I got to tell you one thing that happened this week that even after all these years, it blew me away.
Blew me away.
Folks, I've seen a lot.
I've been through a lot.
But this was something I've never been through before.
There are some people in this audience who have played a role in the evolution of their relationship.
I think we may have shared this before.
I know at least one couple in this audience who started dating by listening to this show.
And this show had an effect on whether or not, as they were feeling each other out to see if they were compatible with one another, one of the litmus tests was to listen to the show and see if they agreed on it.
And they did, and they bonded over the show and they've become part of the family, truly.
Other people remember us when they're passing away.
They send, folks, people send letters saying, I'm not going to be around much longer, but I've only got weeks to live or months to live.
I've received several letters like this over the years.
I want you to know how much your show has inspired me and encouraged me.
And if you don't receive any more contributions from me, I don't want you to think that I've quit listening or withdrew my support.
It's just that I'm in heaven now.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine someone about to pass away and we are on their minds?
Do you know how humbling that that is?
How much that that means to me?
That my meager efforts is something that people are thinking about in their final days.
They think enough about that to write and to say, you've been a part of my life.
But I got something this week.
A listener in New York, in New York of all places, Yankee Land, New York, said that, and this is a person also that I've never met, but he sends in letters from time to time.
And I get to know my audience.
And I recognize the name and I recognize him as someone who has written in before.
And he said that he and his wife just extended the family.
They grew their family and they just had their fourth child.
And it was a boy.
And I'm not going to give away the last name of the boy because that would identify the family, but they named this boy Michael James and then their last name.
And they said the child's middle name was chosen because of their appreciation of this radio program.
Never in my life did I ever think that somebody would be named after me.
That is the kind of relationship and true community.
By the way, family that I'm talking about, I know you're listening tonight because I told you I'd mentioned this when I wrote you back.
You don't even know.
I don't deserve that.
I really don't deserve that.
But that is the kind of community that we have built with our audience.
And it's because we have those bonds.
It's like a steel cable, the connection that we share.
It is a real organic community.
Now, I regret that we can't all live in the same neighborhood and we can't all live in the same area.
But even through the airwaves and across time and space, we have come together and have built something very distinct and very unique.
I will say this about our work on the radio show and our work over all the ups and downs.
I don't think that there is any other organization that has a connection with its constituency like this program does.
And I wanted to open the show up with that tonight because it was on my heart.
And I want to share with you always what I'm thinking about, what's going on.
And when we come back, when we come back in the next segment, we're going to follow up last week's on the main theme from last week.
You know, my pastor was on the show last week and you know what's going on.
And I'm going to give you some updates and I'm going to read some of your feedback, some of the emails and letters that have come in since last week's broadcast.
And yes, we're going to talk a little bit more about what's going on at the Southern Gadget Convention.
But we're only doing it for an hour tonight.
Just the first, well, the remainder of the first hour.
And we've got a lot more news to get to.
Stay tuned.
It's going to be a fun show.
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Ladies and gentlemen, when my audience responds, I like to read it from time to time, and we can't ever read every bit of correspondence that comes in.
But one thing that I never lose sight of is that this is your show.
So when you write in, it deserves to be read.
I'm just your faithful steward here to execute your wishes and to carry our shared and heartfelt beliefs and concerns to a radio audience.
But this is just some of the response that came in last week after the interview with my pastor.
And this first letter comes from Doug in Ohio.
Hi, James.
Just a quick note to let you know that I'm praying for you regarding the church situation and the Southern Baptist Convention.
It was great to hear your godly pastor standing with you for truth on the show this past Saturday.
Thank you, Doug, for that.
And Doug, I know that you also asked me a follow-up question to that.
I will answer you personally.
I'm going to take a day off this week and just try to get into the mailbag and answer as many emails as I can.
Always let those pile up.
This one came in from a lady on the East Coast, and she writes, oh my, James, I knew the Southern Baptist Convention was bad, but I had no idea this outright purge against you was going on.
I'm so sorry.
Although you are so incredibly blessed to have such a strong and bold pastor.
Thank God.
All I can say is keep doing what you're doing.
Your stance on white pride is simply a fly in the ointment of the Southern Baptist Convention's outright maniacal obsession with racial reconciliation, quote unquote.
The increasing PC madness of my former Protestant congregation is what had me running for the hills and eventually into the arms of Orthodoxy.
But as my priest confirmed to me and my husband, Christianity is not a suicide pact.
Some of us may be called to be martyrs, some fighters, some pacifists, some missionaries, some priests and pastors or monks, some mothers and fathers, and others something else.
But as long as we live out our calling as a Christ-centered believer, however, evil is evil.
Having one set of rules for certain Christians and a different set for others is simply not a Jesus thing.
I think your open letter, and I shared with her the open letter, we have not published it yet.
I think your open letter clearly explains that, and I hope that and pray that it will be read by folks with open hearts.
It's so telling that people like us just want to be part of the body of Christ and do our best to glorify him, something seemingly so simple, yet it is so complicated by leftist infiltrators and social justice busybodies, wolves in sheep's clothing.
I'll be praying for you and your family.
Please do take care and do not let this utter insanity steal your joy.
Thank you so much for that email.
This letter came in from a listener in Nashville.
Dear James, I'm not surprised to hear about the Southern Baptist Convention situation.
I have seen Marxist-inspired political correctness creep deep into Christian fundamentalist churches and universities.
I might suggest even that your Baptist congregation withdraw from the SBC if they're going to drift towards liberalism and even cultural Marxism, which we both know came from the minds of evil men.
These attacks against you are not justified and are coming from cowards who worship the gods of political correctness.
I will pray about this matter.
God's mighty power will prevail in the end.
Folks, I want you to hear the goodness in the hearts of your fellow listeners.
You read all of the lies about how this is a hate-filled radio.
We're the nexus of hate in America on this radio program.
The best people I have ever met in my life have been listeners of this show.
And this is an example of what is coming from your hearts and minds.
That's why I'm reading it right now before we go deeper into the topic.
This comes from a listener in London, in London.
John writes, After studying for Catholic priesthood for four years, I left Catholicism, or more accurately, Catholicism left me.
The current SBC is not the SBC of your youth.
This impostor SBC does not deserve you or your pastor or the rest of his flock.
I am certain there are new pastors for you, better pastors for you all.
Well, thank you, John, and I'm sure you're right.
And people do ask the question: why not leave?
Why not just leave?
Why not shake these rats from off your neck?
One thing you need to know, of course, as you do, the theme of this radio program, our mantra, is no retreat, no surrender, no apology.
And that is especially true while you're under fire.
Men out there, if I can do it, you can do it, because there's nothing that makes me special.
Never resign while under fire, especially when you have done no wrong.
Don't grovel.
Don't apologize.
Don't virtue signal.
Don't capitulate.
Set an example.
And if I'm going to go out, I want to be thrown out.
I want to go out on my feet.
Now, that's the way it's going to be.
Would I miss the wicked leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention, the leadership?
No.
No, they'd be doing me a favor to throw me out.
It'd be like Brayer Rabbit.
Please don't throw me in that briar patch.
Brayer didn't want to go into the briar patch.
Well, he did want to, but he led them to believe that he didn't, of course.
But no, it's sort of like that.
They'd be doing me a favor.
I'd be better off gone, but they wouldn't be better off without people like me.
It's interesting.
88.4% of all of the churches that make up the Southern Baptist Convention.
Now, they say they have 15 million members.
That is grossly inflated.
They have far less than that.
And even of those members, you're not talking about folks in the pews every Sunday.
You're talking about folks who attend intermittently or maybe even on Christmas and Easter.
But out of however many, they still have millions of members.
That's true.
It's not 15 million, but however many million they have, 88.4% of that number, 88.4% of the churches in the Southern Baptist Convention are churches that have under 250 members.
They're called small churches.
And by small, the SBC defines small as being 250 members or less.
The median average of a small church membership is 70.
70.
Now, the church to which I belong is basically just a Bible study group.
It's much smaller than 70.
It's just a handful.
And all good people.
But the whole fact that out of all these millions of people, supposedly in the Southern Baptist Convention, that the eye of Sauron or the eye of Soros is on us is really giving us too much credit.
I have no position of authority or leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention.
I'm just a member who is going to tell the truth and call out corruption.
Because our church is so small, I took my children this week to a larger Southern Baptist church in Memphis for a vacation Bible school.
We want to have them in Bible school, vacation Bible school every summer.
We do that.
And it was funny on Friday, I pulled up to walk my kids into church for the Bible school.
And in this church, I went down one row.
I parked and I walked down the one row that I parked in to walk them into the church where they were going to VBS.
And I saw three, three cars with Confederate flag bumper stickers and just the one row I was at.
I am telling you, most Southern Baptists think exactly like I do.
That's the thing they don't want to admit.
Most of them are going to be in fundamental agreement with the things that I have to say on this show.
They may not admit it publicly.
I know it takes a modicum of courage to speak the truth in today's political climate.
But if you give me five to ten minutes with your rank-and-file Southern Baptist, the rank-and-file person who goes into the pews and has no idea what's going on at the convention, and they get to know me a little bit enough to be comfortable with me, and they see I'm a good guy, and I'm not out to get them or put them on the spot.
Five to ten minutes, I'll have 90% of Southern Baptists singing my tune.
75 minimum.
Minimum.
You know, that was interesting.
That was an interesting observance that I made this week.
I don't know if we have time to take a call, but we're going to try.
I'm going to talk a little bit more about this when we come back.
And then in the second and third hour, we're going to go to other things.
But we have a caller from Colorado.
Colorado, you're on the line.
Oh, hey, James.
It's Matt.
Thanks for taking my call.
You're welcome.
Oh, yeah, I was going to say, you're the, like your intro, you're like the only pro-white show I've listened to for years.
You don't have all the infighting and drama, so you're doing a good job.
Yeah, I think we're unique even in the pro-white movement in that there's never been really any dysfunction here.
And yes, we are pro-white, but we also infuse, of course, the Christian element, the southern element, which other groups may not.
I mean, if they're not southern or if they're not Christian.
Again, that's just who we are.
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Well, thank you so much for calling in.
I'll let you talk to our producer.
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And if not, if you just wanted to say that, well, God bless you, brother.
And I'm a better man because you're tuned in.
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Okay, now, getting back to, and I want to thank Matt from Colorado for the last call.
Thank you so much.
Getting back to now fully continuing the conversation we had last week in the first hour and even in the second hour as well.
One of the charges against me that is, I guess, manifesting this motion to disfellowship my entire congregation from the Southern Baptist Convention is that I have publicly criticized the leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention.
That was one of the issues they had with me.
Yes, I have, and yes, I will, and I will continue to do that whether I'm in the Southern Baptist Church or not.
I will criticize anyone who attacks my family and attacks my ancestors.
I will criticize anyone who tells me that in order to be a good Christian, I must disavow and repudiate my ancestors, my Southern ancestors.
And why worry about the splinter in my eye when you have a log in yours?
Who's criticizing who here?
I'm criticizing leaders.
I am just a rank-and-file member of a very tiny Southern Baptist church, and the entire leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention is criticizing and condemning yours truly, Russell Moore, Russell Moore himself, Little Russ.
In 2016, when the media was up in arms over the fact that I had received credentials to a Donald Trump rally and broadcast the show live from the press pen and went to the Republican National Convention, Russell Moore said, white supremacist, James Edwards.
White supremacist?
Because I refuse to be a self-hating, I don't want to say what I'm about to say, but I refuse to self-hate like you.
How about Dwight McKissick?
Now, Dwight McKissick, I will give Dwight McKissick enough credit for at least attacking me to my face, but after that despicable verdict was rendered by the Michigan Court of Appeals, Dwight McKissick publicly celebrated the fact that that injustice had been visited upon his Christian brother.
I assume Dwight McKissick claims he's a Christian.
Supposedly he is.
I know I am, so why would one Christian celebrate the fact that a corrupt court had issued an injustice on another?
He celebrated that I lost my libel suit against the Detroit News.
And even after that lawsuit was decided, many media outlets accurately, even in the wake of covering the verdict, referred to me as a conservative talk radio host, as CNN always referred to me when I appeared on their program.
Now I became a white supremacist to them after they had no more use for me.
But nevertheless, why is the Southern Baptist Convention relying on left-wing blogs and organizations to form their public opinion on me?
It really makes you wonder what they are.
I'll give you two examples.
Michigan Public Radio, the local offshoot of the National Public Radio, a conservative radio host, lost his fight against the Detroit News today.
The Detroit News itself, the exact same paper that called me a Klan leader, wrote the Michigan Court of Appeals rejected a claim this week by a conservative Memphis radio host who said he was defamed by the Detroit News and columnist Banco Thompson.
A three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals upheld a lower court ruling that Thompson's column was protected opinion under the First Amendment and the complaint by James Edwards could not proceed to a trial.
That's just two.
That was the Detroit News even.
That's just two of several that in the wake of that lawsuit referred to me as a conservative.
So why is the Southern Baptist Convention referring to me as all of these names?
And I got another problem.
To not be man enough to approach me.
Don't sneak in the shadows like scared little girls.
Come and face me like a man.
That may be asking too much of you, even though the Bible commands that you do that.
I know there's a lot of men out there, certainly in the leadership of that particular denomination, who have never done a manly thing in their entire lives.
What's so interesting is that some of the same people who are bringing these charges against me are crowing this very week about how the church is autonomous.
Southern Baptist churches are all autonomous.
Well, I guess they're autonomous unless they're dealing with alleged racists.
I guess it's different rules in that regard.
You know what I feel like?
I feel like I'm starring in the Southern Baptist Convention's production of The Crucible.
This is a witch hunt.
Another problem they have with me is that they said that I've interviewed David Duke.
Folks, you got it wrong.
I have not just merely interviewed David Duke.
Everybody's interviewed David Duke.
Wolf Flitzer's interviewed David Duke.
Bill O'Reilly's interviewed David Duke.
No, no, no.
I have interviewed David Duke many times, many times.
And let me be clear in what I'm about to say.
Much more than that, David Duke is a very close personal friend.
Let me say it again.
David Duke is a very close personal friend.
I have spent countless hours with him.
I was in his home not a month ago.
We went and worked out together.
He is a close personal friend to my family, to my wife, and to my children.
I love him dearly.
And I will tell you that based upon what I have seen and what I know, I think there's higher odds on me running into David Duke in the kingdom of heaven than some of these people in the church today.
And I'll tell you another thing.
David Duke would come to me if he had a problem with me.
He wouldn't sneak around and file motions and let one side be heard.
Pay attention, boys, to how I just made clear my association with David Duke.
That is how a man defends his friends.
That is how a man defends his friends and shows loyalty.
Loyalty is a manly virtue.
Now, it sometimes costs us a little bit of convenience to be loyal, but it is a small price to pay for true friendship and true relationship.
If I wasn't a man, I'd be like the leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention who threw Paige Patterson under the bus, a man who is 75 years old who's dedicated his entire life to the Southern Baptist Convention.
The media found something he said 1990, 30 years ago, and they had a problem with it.
So, by God, the Southern Baptist Convention had a problem with it too.
They threw him out.
They stripped him of his retirement benefits.
What disgusting creeps you are?
It's not like Paige Patterson hid from the Southern Baptist Convention or his church that had admitted child sexual predator of children was working in the church like one of the current leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention has done in the past.
You fear the media and being politically incorrect more than anything in the world, more than Christ more than anything.
The real question is, why should not, the real question isn't should my church be disfellowship from the Southern Baptist Convention, but why any decent Christian would want to be associated, would want to be associated with such groveling cowards in the first place.
And that is a good question.
Another listener from Georgia wrote this week, the idea that the SBC would want to expel you while honoring Martin Luther King speaks volumes.
King denied the virgin birth, the physical resurrection of Christ, the inheritancy of scriptures, and is a hero to them.
Is the SBC position that a man such as King was even saved at all?
We won't even touch on the plagiarism, the sexual indiscretions, and the suspected embezzlement.
Good point.
Another listener, so does this mean that all of my Confederate ancestors just got kicked out of heaven and into hell?
Is this like the opposite of what the Mormons believe in that you can post-human humanly baptize your ancestors in abstentia to save them?
Now the Baptists post-humously unsaved their ancestors and consigned them to eternal hellfire?
How can Baptists create new condemnable sins like racism?
In another 20 years, will not marrying gays get you publicly sent to hell at an SBC convention?
All good questions.
Countless, countless emails, letters, and text messages like this, ladies and gentlemen, since the last week.
Such strong support.
I will say this, though.
My memories of the time I spent the Southern Baptist Church will be evergreen.
It doesn't change.
It's like a relationship.
If you have a bad breakup and things change and circumstances change and over time you drift apart, to me, I can look back, even in a situation like that, I can look back to when it was good.
And that memory is just as real and just as true and just as pure as it was in that moment.
In that moment, it was real.
And I don't think when relationships go sour that it should taint the good times.
Those good times existed in that place, in that time, in that day and age.
And for me, when I look back on my childhood in the Southern Baptist Church, it's going to be precious and it'll never fade.
What they've become now, God help them.
God help them.
And God help the people in there because I'm telling you, the majority agree with me.
But nobody has the courage to stand up to the attacks.
But I do.
God help me.
I do, and I will.
I will.
Dorothy Sayers once wrote, I love this quote about tolerance.
In the world, it's called tolerance, but in hell it's called despair, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
That pretty much sums up the Southern Baptist Convention.
They won't even defend their own ancestors.
And much more than that, they publicly condemn them, their own fathers and grandfathers.
Could there be any victory more complete than to have the descendants of one's own defeated foes embrace the victor's principles and repudiate those of their ancestors?
I'm going to read that twice for emphasis so it can sink in.
Could there be any victory more complete than to have the descendants of one's own defeated foes embrace the victor's principles and repudiate those of their ancestors?
That's where we are now.
That's where we are in the churches, and it's not just this church.
If I was born to a different church, there's other churches even worse than the Southern Baptist Convention, if you can believe it.
But they're catching up fast, but there are.
I love Hutton Gibson's quote, too, on tolerance.
Tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society.
When an immoral society has blatantly and proudly violated all the commandments, it insists upon one last virtue: tolerance from its immorality.
It will not tolerate condemnation of its perversions.
It creates a whole new world in which only the intolerant critic of intolerable evil is evil.
And the churches are going along with this.
Hutton Gibson.
Mel Gibson's father said that on this show.
Well, I am an intolerant critic of intolerable evil.
And I'll be back right after this.
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It seems that the work routine as a stay-at-home mom is never ending.
And even though I'm a prime grocery shopper in our family of four, I simply don't have time to scrutinize all the labels on the countless food products I buy.
Oh, sure, I've noticed all the latest certification seals, organic, non-GMO, gluten-free.
It definitely seems to be the latest craze.
But it was only recently that kosher certification seals caught my attention.
You see, my husband had me download an app called Kosher Certify, and it shed light on a century-old certification industry that slipped under the radar screen from the majority of our public.
I also noticed a question mark at the end of the app name.
And that makes great sense as there's far more questions regarding this industry than answers.
In fact, the developers refer to this as the kosher question.
Sure, I'm a busy mom and didn't pay attention to our food culture, but now I have transparency, a convenient grocery list feature, and the ability to eat in favor of my family's best interests.
And you can discover it too at thekosherQuestion.com.
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Folks, time with you goes by too fast.
I thought we were 30 minutes into the show.
We're already 45 minutes into it tonight, so I got to speed this hour up if I'm ever going to finish on time.
Robert Lewis Dabney, now if there's a man in heaven, he's surely there.
He wrote this, and this is applicable to today's question.
This is a party which never conserves anything.
Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at the last innovation.
What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism.
It now is conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.
American conservatism, and you could substitute American religion for that matter, is merely the shadow that follows radicalism as it moves forward to perdition.
It remains behind it, but never retards it and always advances near its leader.
Its impotency is not indeed hard to explain.
It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only and not of sturdy principle.
It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of truth and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom.
It always, when about to enter a protest, very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop that its bark is worse than its bite and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance.
The only practical purpose which it now serves in American politics is to give enough exercise to radicalism to keep it in wind and to pretend to prevent its becoming lazy from having nothing to whip.
No doubt, after a few years, when women's suffrage shall have been an accomplished fact, conservatism will tacitly admit it into its creed and thenceforth plume itself upon its wise firmness in opposing with similar weapons the extreme of baby suffrage.
And when that too shall have been won, it will be heard declaring that the integrity of the American Constitution requires at last the refuge of suffrage to asses.
There it will assume with great dignity its final position.
Robert Lewis Dabney, of course, R.L. Dabney was an American Christian theologian.
He was a southern Presbyterian pastor, Confederate States Army chaplain, an architect.
He was also the chief of staff and biographer to Stonewall Jackson.
What he was talking about there is certainly, it could certainly be applied to the modern-day church.
There is nothing in the world, there is nothing the world won't demand of them that they can't accommodate.
And you see it right now.
There's a push for this Me Too radical feminism.
It's just eating the church apart.
And they're opening up the doors for women pastors.
No, that's not right.
They're opening up the door for amnesty and refugees and this third world onslaught.
And so much more.
There's nothing the world won't demand that they won't do.
I never thought I'd see the Southern Baptist Convention working hand in hand with the antichrist media and satanic left-wing organizations to persecute Christians, but here we are.
In fact, the only good thing about the Southern Baptist Convention, really anymore on a congregational level, now that the people are great, the people who have no idea what's going on, the people in the pews, fantastic people for the most part.
But the best thing about the Southern Baptist Convention is that the word Southern is still in its name.
And even that, it's Southern in name only, and even that embarrasses them.
They put forth an alternate name in 2012.
It didn't replace the official name, but they said you can use it if you're embarrassed of the word Southern.
They became the great commission Baptist.
And what is racial reconciliation anyway?
That's another thing they always harp on.
All racial reconciliation is white capitulation.
That's all it is.
I don't have a problem with treating everybody with respect and treating everyone fairly.
And we're all brothers and sisters in Christ.
That's fine.
But no one is ever going to repudiate their ancestors like whites.
No one's ever going to sacrifice their monuments except for whites.
That's all racial reconciliation is.
It's whites capitulating and getting nothing in return for it.
The action of surrendering or ceasing to resist an opponent or a demand.
When minorities complain, no problem.
We'll denounce our ancestors and help you tear down our monuments to our heroes.
When whites complain about something going on, we throw them out.
That's where we are.
That's what's going on.
And I want my audience to know, and I said this last week: whatever action is taken, it doesn't have any influence over me whatsoever.
My salvation lies in the hand of God, not men, not weak church leaders.
I don't believe that I'm wrong.
I'm not going to reconsider it because I am sure that I am right.
And because of that, I want to apologize.
We're going to take a very quick call.
I've got to wrap this up, but a very quick call from Tom.
Tom, you're on the air.
Hey, James, how are you doing?
I'm all right, man.
I just want to let you know I feel for you 100%.
You know, I know how you feel.
And I don't know if you remember before this big brouhah started between you and the Baptists, I sent you a thing that the Methodist Church had done, which really grated on me.
They had basically condemned everyone who had ever been a Methodist Indian fighter.
Any Methodist who had fought the Indians was condemned by the Methodist Church.
I mean, how do they know?
And I'll tell you what I think the problem is today.
Too many of these clergymen or so-called clergymen, they're basically lazy.
They really are.
They're nothing but lazy.
They don't want to get out and deal with the people.
They don't want to get out and be involved in the community.
So what they do is they get involved in these crazy issues.
And I felt, you know, there was a guy, he was a Methodist minister back in the 1860s.
He was a Methodist bishop.
And he was one of the ones who was specifically condemned because he had led, you know, a fight against the Arapaho Indian, I believe it was, in Colorado.
And, you know, my family, you know, they were all Indian fighters back there, the French and Indian War and all of that, you know.
And people don't people don't realize how touch and go that was.
People probably wouldn't even know that the American army was wiped out by the Indians.
I was just about to say, Tom, and I apologize to you, brother.
I'm about to run out of time, and I've got to make my final point.
But if you want to call back, we're going to have some extra time in the third hour.
But I wanted to say this in response to your point: is that, yes, if the modern-day leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention had been in the position of your ancestors, they would have never made it off the boat.
America would be still a completely heathen, pagan, ungodly country because they wouldn't have had the intestinal fortitude to come and claim Christ's name on this continent.
They would have been driven out and just massacred and butchered.
And that's actually my final point.
Well, no, they don't.
They don't want to do like Asbury and ride from North Carolina up to Pennsylvania, turn around and ride all the way back on horseback, you know?
Well, that's actually.
Yeah, no, that's the final point.
Thank you so much for the call.
I agree.
And this was my last point.
The last point I was going to make tonight is that what's the future for our church?
My pastor said, even if they do throw us out, we'll just change our name and come back and they can have to throw us out again next year.
But maybe the future of the church for sincere Christians is home churching.
That's the way the church first started.
Small groups of believers meeting underground.
But here's the bottom line.
The bottom line I want you to take away from this hour is this.
If the current leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention, I'm meaning Russell Moore, Steve Gaines, J.D. Greer, if any of these people and more like them had been in the place of Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours, October 10th, the year 732 A.D., if any of these weak-minded men had been in the place of Charles the Hammer Martel, Christianity would have been stamped out.
Europe would have been wiped off the face of the earth.
We would have all been Muslim if we had lived at all.
Christianity would have been eradicated.
If the Muslims had won that battle, the world would have been Muslim.
That single battle was the turning point and one of the most important and decisive battles in the history of the world.
It unquestionably saved Christianity and preserved the faith as the religion of Europe.
If these people had been in that position, they would have welcomed them in.
Oh, we got to be tolerant.
Oh, yes, kill us.
Rape our wives.
We don't want to be called a bigot.
No.
Who wins that battle if Russell Moore had been in the place of Charles Martel?
Christianity would have been ended there.
John Sobieski, Battle of Virginia, September 12th, 1683.
Once again, historians suggest that this battle marked the turning point in the Ottoman Wars, the 300-year struggle between the Roman Empire and the Muslims.
If Steve Gaines, John Sobieski, you're offended, Muslim?
You're offended, Mustafa?
Here, take Europe.
Just don't call me a racist.
Please, come invade our lands.
want you to.
We're good.
Same can be said for Charlemagne, even Constantine.
That's the final conclusion.
Know this.
If the current leadership of the Christian denominations had been in the place of the real Christian kings, there would be no Christianity today.
We need men like Charlemagne in our churches again.
We need Christians like Charles Martel in our churches again.
We need to drive these weak-minded Christians from the pulpit or Christianity will be eradicated.
Christianity is already morphing into nothing more than just radical social justice, left-wing, feminist, anti-white claptrap at the head table level.
We need strong men to be Christians in this day and age.
These Christians today, they won't even defend their own borders without a fight.
Much less with it.
Do you think they would have defended it with their lives on the line?
They wouldn't even defend their own borders without a fight.
In fact, they're aiding the enemy.
That's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
That's why I can't back down.
I won't.
But I will be back at the second hour right after this.
Sean Bergens, my guy.
Another power of the political cesspool is in the can, but don't go away.