April 7, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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This Saturday evening, April the 7th, as we are kicking off Confederate History Month 2018 here on the Political Success Pool Radio Program.
And to help us do that, our first guest of Confederate History Month 2018 is none other than my good friend and yours, Mr. Kirk Lyons Esquire.
Kirk serves as the chief trial counsel of an organization that he also co-founded, the Southern Legal Resource Center, which is a nonprofit public law corporation which offers legal support to defend First Amendment violations, violation of civil rights, and discrimination against advocates of Southern heritage.
I need his phone number.
Right.
I'll be needing that phone number soon.
Kirk, it's great to have you.
How are you, brother?
James, I'm glad to be here.
I hope you're doing well.
I am, of course, doing well in the month of April.
I will probably mention this every hour tonight because it is something I'm quite proud of.
156 years ago today, my great-great-great-grandfather fought in the Battle of Shiloh.
And 156 years later, I hope that I'm doing him thoroughbred a modicum of justice in doing the work that we do here on the radio.
It is a pale comparison to his sacrifice, but we do what we can with what we've got.
Kirk, it's great to have you tonight.
You have had an eventful day today as well.
If you don't mind, before we get started tonight, tell us what you were doing earlier this afternoon.
I am in the last capital of our country, Danville, Virginia, and where the high and mighty city council in their infinite wisdom decided to desecrate the last capital, which is the Sutherland Mansion in downtown Danville, and took down the flag, honoring it as the last capital of the Confederacy.
And they had a current national Confederate flag flying there for many years, took it down, and ever since then, what it did, it generated Confederate activity.
And there are now 15 large Confederate flags ringing the city of Danville because they took down one flag.
So that's what they got for taking down one flag.
Got 15 more.
You know, that happened after they took down the Confederacy have had an annual ball, and I called the dance for the ball last night.
Well, it was interesting.
I was joking with Kirk earlier this week.
The last time we talked to have him on the show, he couldn't appear because he was judging a dance.
And this week.
I was calling it.
I wasn't judging.
Calling it.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Let's get our adjectives correct.
It was, I was in the middle of nowhere, South Carolina.
And we couldn't get a signal.
Could not get a signal.
So I just go back to calling the dance.
And we did.
That's our.
Kurt, you still have your handlebar mustache, my friend.
Almost 40 years.
Eddie the Bob Normiller is here with us tonight.
Kirk here, of course, remembers you from our anniversary.
We caught dude.
I talked to him and had a great conversation.
You still have your mustache.
Your fandlebar mustache.
I still do.
You go, son.
My wife will let me shave it off.
Don't you dare touch that mustache, young fellow.
She doesn't like beards, but she likes the mustache.
And we actually have a picture of.
By the way, I mentioned all of the great content we have at our website, thepoliticalsuccesspool.org, and our Twitter handle, the official Twitter of our program at James Edwards TPC.
We actually have a picture promoting tonight's show, which features Kirk and his mustache.
But nevertheless, so that's there on Twitter.
I don't, not judging by the emails and correspondence we're receiving so far tonight, they seem to be tuned in and enjoying it.
But very quickly, before we move on, have a conference.
Let's find a band and I'll call a dance for y'all.
Well, let's talk a little bit more about that.
So explain a little bit more to the audience.
I don't want to say this is trivial because it's anything but trivial.
But before we get into the meat of your appearance tonight, let's talk a little bit more about exactly what you did.
Explain it for the layman.
Well, and again, they call it dance calling.
It's not really dance calling.
I'm actually the dance master or the master of ceremonies.
In our culture, which goes back hundreds of years back to Europe, the country dancing of Europe came across the pond to America when our initial ancestors came to these shores.
They brought their music and their dance with them.
And it was called country dancing.
And it was the dance you had the formal court dancing that you would have in London or Paris or Vienna.
But then out in the country where the farm people lived, it was called country dancing.
And we would associate it with line dancing.
You have the men on one side lined up and the women on the other.
And the Virginia Reel, which is a dance that's almost 400 years old now, is a country dance.
And it has English and Scottish roots.
And the primary instrument for country dancing is the fiddle.
And as long as you have a fiddle player, you got music, you can have a dance.
Now, in Scotland, where they did the dancing, they had small crofters' huts.
They did not have a lot of large structures.
You weren't allowed to dance in the church hall.
So they would literally dance in the road by the moonlight.
And when they had a dance, they would generally dance all night.
And if it was a wedding, they would dance, they would party for a week.
They knew how to have a good time.
That came.
It's like Bloody Breath of County, Kentucky.
Yeah, and you still see remnants of it in places like the highlands of North Carolina and Tennessee and Kentucky.
You still have vestiges of it there and Virginia, including, you know, the other folkways, including the speech patterns, the songs, the dance, all go back to their English and Scottish roots.
And anyway, so In that day, dancing was the main social activity.
That was how you had fun on Friday night or Saturday night.
And during the winter season, when people don't have to worry too much, when the farms are kind of taking care of themselves, crops are in, you know, land is fallow, you're waiting for spring to come, they would dance, they'd have a dance every week, and people would come for miles for a dance.
And again, it was their main source of entertainment.
And you'd have live music, of course.
And for instance, the Virginia Reel, if I was visiting my cousins in Danville, Virginia, I'm from Texas, I'm visiting in Danville.
I would ask my cousins there in Danville, how do y'all do the Virginia Real?
And they would tell me what their variation is, and then we would do it.
And if they came to see me in Travis County, Texas, you know, and it's 1850, they'd say, well, how do y'all do it here in Texas?
Well, I would tell them how we do the Virginia Reel.
Hold on right there, Kirk.
We got to take a break.
The music is playing.
We're about to come up to our first commercial.
We're just getting started with Kirk Lions.
Much more to come right after this.
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You know, when we have great men on and great guests on, the time goes by far too quickly, and you never have quite enough time to get into everything you wanted to cover.
And I didn't intend to cover what we covered for the entire first segment, but it was so enthralling that we had to dedicate that.
We have a lot more to cover tonight, but before we move on, I know very quickly Eddie wants to make a point about what Kirk Lyons, our first guest of Confederate History Month, was doing tonight and why it is, in fact, so important.
Go, Eddie.
It is because I've never met a young person that was introduced to it that didn't love it once they were introduced to it.
And we teach it at the Sam Davis Christian Youth Camp where they get to dance, practice every week, and then we have a ball on Friday.
Well, Kurt, I'd like to salute you, my brother, because the first hour, we spent almost an hour talking about how important teaching our culture, our heritage to our young people is, teaching them about their ancestors.
What you're teaching, man, out of your words out of your own mouth, you said these dancers are 400 years old.
They came from white Anglo-Saxon, Europeans, Germanic Europeans.
Thank God that we have people like you teaching our cultural heritage.
So thank you so much, Kurt.
As long as I can still stand up.
Keep it up.
Well, and we hope that's for many, many years to come.
Now, Kirk, tell us a little more before we get into the actual meat of the interview.
There's so much we need to cover with you.
But tell us, we made mention of the fact that you are chief legal counsel, chief trial counsel for the Southern Legal Resource Center.
Tell us a little bit more about your work and the work of the SLR.
We are going on 20 years old this June.
Actually, this May will be 20 years old.
We started out.
There were three attorneys, Larry Sally of Columbia, South Carolina, myself, and Carl A. Barrington of Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Carl died here several years ago, but we all found ourselves handling a Confederate flag-related case at the same time, and we all knew each other.
And we started talking that, look, these cases, there's enough similarities.
We really should be sharing notes here so that we can help our clients more effectively.
And we just came to the conclusion that, well, heck, we need to just form an organization that specializes in this kind of litigation because we're seeing more and more of these kind of cases back then.
Generally, at that time, there were three different kinds of cases.
You had the case where the kid wore his Dixie outfitter shirt to school and got treated like a thought criminal.
Or remember UDC wanted to be in the Knitting and Peach Preserving Society parade in Little Town, Virginia or North Carolina and told that they couldn't.
Or some good old boy shows up to work with a Confederate flag on his lunchbox and gets fired.
Those are the three kind of cases we handled and that we generally ran across.
And so we formed the Southern Legal Resource Center as a South Carolina corporation.
We filed for a nonprofit status and the IRS sat on it for over a year.
And they actually, we actually got an IRS auditor who actually called us after we'd filed our application.
It's form 1023 for tax exempt status.
And he said, we don't believe that Confederate flag people should have constitutional protection.
We don't think that that's protected under the Constitution.
And I said, well, thank God that you're not sitting on the bench.
We actually do, and that's what this is all about.
And I actually, we filed a protest for his opinion.
And, oh, I guess about two weeks after that, we got our tax exempt status.
But it took over a year, and we believe they probably were sitting on it.
And, you know, it got moved really slowly.
So anyway, we got our tax exempt status, and we started handling cases.
We publicly supported, and we, you know, the public, if they care about what we do, they support us.
And if they don't, well, we starve.
But we believe in it.
And at the time, I settled probably the largest case I'd ever settled in my career.
And it gave me a couple of years of independence.
And I just said, well, we can't do this part-time.
This is not going to work as a part-time operation.
It needs to be full-time.
So I took the plunge and said, look, I've got the money to keep my family alive for a couple of years, and I'll just go full-time.
We'll see how if we can do it.
And here we are 20 years later.
I mean, we still tend to limp along.
And, you know, we're, you know, we have hard ration days at the SLRC, and we really believe that give us this day our daily bread is exactly what that means.
We've got to pray for it every day.
But we're still alive, still head above water, and still trying to stay relevant and in the fight and providing legal expertise for the Confederate community.
And now more than ever.
Hey, Kurt, how can people donate to your calls?
Because you have a wonderful call.
How can people donate?
His name is Rockefeller.
We want to hear from him.
If the last name is Andrew, please call.
Or if you just have a couple of shekels to give, we'll take it.
The SLRC, our Facebook page is www.slrc-csa.org.
One more time.
You always hit at least twice.
Which is Southern Legal Resource Center, where we give daily and weekly updates.
But the website is probably the best place to donate, and it's www.slrc-csa.org.
Now, if you're one of our faithful pen and quill people, and God bless you, your generation still knows how to give money.
The millennials are kind of recreant in the cause of civilization in that regard.
But our older supporters who want a newsletter in their hot little hands, you want a newsletter?
We'll send you one.
And you can send your check in the snail mail to P.O. Box1235-Black Mountain, North Kakalaki, 28711.
Well, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
It says North Kakalaki, it'll still get there.
And people just go on the website.
You can go listen to the archives and pull all this information.
I think we have it.
Yes, indeed.
And I think we have it linked on our page as well or our Twitter.
But one thing you need to know is that this is an organization, a legal defense organization that has won, that has won in the federal courts, the occupied courts, if you will.
Tell us, we only have a minute or two remaining in this segment.
And then when we come back, I think the introduction is over, and we're going to get into the meat of the matter.
But you have actually won some pretty substantial cases for defendants, Southern Heritage defendants.
Oh, thank God.
In the Sixth Circuit, United States Court of Appeals, our Castarina case was the rule of the circuit.
And it was a case where a kid wore a Hank Williams Jr. t-shirt, concert t-shirt to school, he and his girlfriend, and they got kicked out of school.
And we sued and it went all the way to the Sixth Circuit.
The Sixth Circuit ruled in our favor, sent it back, and they paid up.
Okay.
So you're talking about now, ladies and gentlemen, a legal resource center that actually takes cases with concern of Southern heritage and the civil rights violation of Confederate Americans, Southern Americans.
And they win.
And Kirk has won, and there are other cases.
I know, Kirk, you've been involved in cases recently in Texas, and you are engaged.
And obviously, like any good general, you win some, you lose some, but you do win some, and that's what we're focusing on right now.
Those wins are rare nowadays, so I could not think of a better place to put your dollar to work, James.
Amen to that.
I'll say amen to that.
Amen.
I'll say amen too.
I'll give a rebel yell.
Yay!
I told Eddie not to give the rebel yells.
I gotta hold back.
I'm sorry.
I'm getting out of control.
Because it distorts the audience.
I gotta watch out.
I got a real moment.
As we go out over the AM airwaves.
But it really is.
By the way, very quickly, thepoliticalcesspool.org, we actually have footage, video footage of people doing a rebel yell.
And we've got some very interesting articles there at our website this week as we're kicking off Confederate History Month with Kirk Lyons.
So we've got a lot of questions for Kirk about Confederate History Month and what it means to him to be a Southerner, what people outside the South can get from our coverage of Confederate History Month here during the month of April.
That's going to come up as we continue on for the remainder of this hour.
But before we go to break, and it's coming up in just seconds, Kirk, a final word about your work there at the SLRC.
Anything we haven't covered?
Well, monuments, we are in a fight for our life now.
I really believe it is the 11th hour and a fight we have to win, and that is in defense of our monuments.
Because if they get our monuments, guess who's next?
And I do not want to be face down in a ditch somewhere with a small caliber bullet in the back of my head delivered by Antifa.
And if we don't want that scenario, and if we don't want a landscape that looks like a Terminator movie, then we have got to get in there and defend these monuments.
All right, stay tuned right there, Kirby.
You got to take a break.
Amen.
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Let's get back to Kirk Lyons.
Kirk, what does it mean to you to be a Southerner and a descendant of the men who wore gray?
Put it in your own words.
Well, I'll tell you the way it's been explained to me, and I believe.
If you go, if you travel outside of the United States to Europe, you will find there that the Confederate, if you say you're a Texan or a Georgian or Virginian, you receive a reception there among Europeans that you won't get if you're from somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon line.
And that is because to many people outside of this country, Confederate ancestry confers a patent of nobility.
And I believe that.
And you find that among the titled people, the people that used to rule Europe, there's a special place in most of their hearts for people of Confederate ancestry.
Whether you're descended from a private or a general, it doesn't matter.
You were part of that noble band in gray that gave everything except honor to achieve their independence from a hellish invasion, which just about everybody outside of this country understands.
We were invaded and we fought to repel an invader.
And that's really as far as we need to go with it.
That is never give that up because they were right.
They're right then.
We are right now.
And I don't care what your societal institutions are.
Every people have the right to defend themselves from an invader.
Every people does.
And we exercise that right.
We did nothing wrong.
I have asked that question.
I'm waiting for those clowns up north, you know, to ask us for a pardon.
Because I always like what Bob Toombs said.
When the damn Yankee Reconstructionist came to him to offer him a pardon, he looked at them and he said, I haven't pardoned you yet.
You know, Kirk, we've been doing this for 14 years on the radio, and I've asked that question to a lot of guests.
I don't know, and a lot of guests have given some tremendous, some great answers.
I don't know if any of them exceeds that answer, though.
That answer, sir, exceeded expectations.
Oh, Bob Toombs is worth quoting.
He's very quotable.
He has another great quote.
He was from Washington, Georgia.
And in 1871, when the Chicago fire started, everybody crowded to the telegraph office.
It was the only way they could get the news.
And since there was such a crowd there, they allowed Bob Toombs to go in and get the news, and he would come out and give bulletins, you know, as one of the leading citizens of Washington, Georgia.
And he came out and he said, well, it looks like the fire is consuming a good bit of the city, and there's fire departments coming from all over Cook County and outside of Cook County to bring help.
Thousands of volunteers are rushing to the city.
They are pumping water out of the Great Lakes.
They're doing all they can to put the fire out.
And then he paused and said, but the wind is on our side.
Kirk.
You know, we are Southerners here.
And sometimes we like to engage in porch talk, which means we will talk for a while and we will keep on talking.
But the restrictions of commercial talk radio sometimes put a damper on our communicational techniques.
Yeah, we're going to have to cut out commercials tonight.
Because I've got a lot of things I want to ask you.
And we're starting to, if you can believe it, already know what you're doing.
Kirk's road, man.
Yeah, I know.
Let me ask you for your specification.
The other thing is my family stake is in the South.
My family were here.
The first family member they know was a Blaylaker actor's name was Blacklock, landed at Jamestown in 1622, the year of the Indian uprising.
And I have two Jamestown ancestors.
I have some that were Scots Irish that came through Philadelphia to Pennsylvania.
And that was my Lions family.
They came from Northern Ireland and then down the Shenandoah Valley, then to Tennessee, to Alabama, and then to Texas.
And my great-great-grandfather Lyons, Gainem, Scrogg and Lions, was a private in Captain John S. White's company, the Sons of 76, which was Company H of the 26th O'Neill's Alabama Infantry Regiment.
And he fought to the end in the Army of Northern Virginia and the Army of Tennessee, was in many of the major battles of the war.
He survived, came back to an impoverished Alabama, rebuilt his life, became a miller.
And then he and his 15 kids and wife moved to Texas in 1891.
And that's how the Lions has got to Texas.
But I have a total of about lineal and collateral.
I found almost 30 Confederate ancestors.
Looks like everybody in my family fought on the right side.
Well, and I think I could say that as well.
And I know Eddie has at least several, if not all of the men of fighting age who fought.
Let me ask you this, Kirk.
And by the way, if people don't know what the valley means in Virginia, drive to Washington, D.C. from Tennessee, as I have done many times, and you will go through that beautiful valley.
And it is a beautiful drive.
But we won't digress too much.
Let me ask you this very quickly, Kirk.
We have a worldwide audience here.
After 14 years, they are across the country and around the world.
Why should they care?
What can listeners outside the South take from this special month-long series that we're presenting here on this program?
What they can take away is that the South, Southerners, are a unique people.
They are a conquered minority that were quasi-reincorporated into the empire.
And it's an object lesson on government.
And we, the South, understand bad government because we've been the victims of it for so long.
And, you know, when the founding fathers put this country together, you had the evil Alexander Hamilton vision, which is what we're living through now.
And then you had the Jeffersonian vision.
And Jefferson was right.
The people that supported Jefferson was right.
The South was right.
The more we understand as Christians, and we are still in the Bible Belt of this country, that man is innately evil.
And without a savior, he will continue to be evil.
And you have to build your government with that in mind: that man is basically bad.
And the North and the liberals that came out of them have this utopian vision that man is innately good.
And if you have a government based on man being innately good, you're in big, or as my dad would say, you're in deep kimchi.
Kirk, quick question.
Thanks, my brother.
Basic thing that the world should take: that we are a worthy people for preservation.
We have a unique culture that goes back hundreds of years and then across the pond, even further back into Europe.
And it's a culture that needs to survive and prosper.
And if we could get out from under the honest of the rest of the country's suicidal tendencies, we could do just that.
Hold on right there.
We got to take a break.
We'll leave it at that.
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All right, I've got three questions we've got to get to, and this is our last segment with Kirk Lyons, our first guest of Confederate History Month.
Kirk, I would ask you this: obviously, it's easy to highlight the biggest heroes: Robert E. Lee, Thomas J. Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
We could go on and on.
Those are easy questions to answer.
Who is your favorite hero?
And most people would pick one of those three, if not a few beyond that.
But I would ask you: is there a favorite hero that you personally have that might not be as well known to our audience?
I admire all of those men, and I'm a great admirer of Robert E. Lee.
Sure.
I have to say that if I had to pick my heroes, it would be the crew of the CSS Huntley.
I think they're the bravest men that ever went to sea, ever, in anywhere in world history.
Absolutely the bravest men that ever went to sea.
They went out there to sink that ship, the USS Husatonic, knowing, knowing that two other crews had died in that very ship.
And they, in fact, had to pull the bodies out of the second crew who had been in underwater and decomposing for two weeks before they were allowed to volunteer to be on that third mission.
Those are some brave, brave men.
I have actually shared this story in previous years in broadcasting this series.
I had the great privilege of being there in Charleston, South Carolina for that burial, the burial of George Dixon and his crew.
Of course, the CSS Huntley was lost for many years in Charleston Harbor, and it was found in the early 2000s.
And they had that burial, I believe it was in 2005.
And it was just you were there too.
Well, before we knew each other, we were both there together.
Well, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, then it was just an amazing.
I only had five kids in.
I'm sorry, I misstatement.
The twins were born in 2006.
So, yeah, it was only five of them.
Well, you'll remember, of course, then the amazing experience that that was.
And I remember, of course, having the opportunity to go and drop cedar on the grave of Lieutenant Dixon.
And it was just a wonderful, I mean, even back then, I mean, that wasn't that long ago.
It's just an amazing outpouring of Southern pride.
It was tens of thousands of people there.
Tens of thousands.
And, of course, yes, the CSS Hundley, that crew, as you mentioned, and for reasons you mentioned, certainly heroes.
And I think being a Tennessean on the anniversary of the Battle of Shiloh, our wartime governor, Isham Harris, this was the governor of Tennessee fighting with his citizens in that battle.
Could you imagine a sitting governor today going to war with his citizens in Texas?
And my favorite, my secondary favorite, besides my own family's ancestry, would have to be Hood's Texans in Virginia.
Hood's Texans.
Tell us why.
I'm a great admirer of theirs.
I think they were, man-for-man, probably the greatest fighting force of infantry on the historical stage.
That's why they were known as Lee's Grenadier Guard.
Well, by all means, I have a couple of other questions, but I'd like for you to give a little bit more of an accounting of why exactly they were so great.
Well, when I worked at the State Library as a college student, as a halftime student, I used to go to the archives and I would pull the historic flags of Texas.
I would have them brought to my table.
And I could literally pull these historic flags before they were restored and put, you know, behind glass and hold them in my hands.
And I used to, my favorite was the flag of the 1st Texas Infantry, which was made from Lula Wigfall's wedding dress.
And it was silk.
And that flag was found on the battlefield of Sharpsburg with nine dead Texan color bearers on top of it.
And the Yankee that found the flag got the Medal of Honor for simply pulling bodies off of a flag.
And he turned the flag into the War Department.
It was, oh, good.
You get the Medal of Honor.
And they did later take it away from him.
But you used to be able to see the blood in that flag that those nine dead color bearers soaked.
And the 1st Texas Infantry Regiment took on an entire Yankee Army Corps at Sharpsburg.
And they lost 82% of their men.
But the largest battle casualties of the war was the 1st Texas Infantry in Miller's Cornfield.
I would also...
One hell of a fighting force, and they literally bled themselves white.
For the rest of the month, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be highlighting in short controlled bursts some of the heroes of the Confederacy that you might not have such a well-known knowledge of.
And I would kind of one more.
I'll bring this man up every year, but it's DeWitt Smith Job, D.S. Job with the Confederate Scout.
D.S. Job.
Yep.
That was Bill Rowland is one of his favorite heroes.
That was kind of his hero.
That is correct.
In fact, I am pleasantly surprised you brought that up.
Cannot forget Sam Davis.
Bill Rowland.
Of course.
And Bill Rowland's camp of the SCV was the D.S. Job camp.
And of course, D.S. Job was a Confederate scout who was tortured brutally, his eyes gouged out, his tongue cut off.
He was dragged behind a galloping horse, and he never did reveal under torture the location of the Confederate troops in his area.
He was a Confederate scout.
Just so many tales of heroism.
And you answered it a little bit, but I would ask you, you can't cover every hero.
You can't cover every battle in commercial talk radio when we're limited to just a set number of hours in any given month.
But very quickly, and I have two other questions I want to get to you.
We only have five minutes remaining.
Is there a particular battle where the gallantry of the Confederate soldier really stood out to you?
Franklin, where my great-great-grandfather fell with a very serious wound in the shoulder.
And tell us why.
Unfortunately, outright defeated on the battlefield, but those men gave all.
It was a bloodbath, an absolute bloodbath.
My great-great-grandfather was left on the field for dead.
He saw the bullet that killed States Rights Gist, and he was captured and sent to a prisoner of war camp, nearly died, and then pretty much walked home after the war and was nearly shot off of his own porch by his wife because she didn't recognize him.
And he had quite a story, but he was at the Battle of Franklin.
Franklin is where, you know, the men in gray gave all.
They were asked to do more than that could possibly be done, but they did their very best to carry out their objectives.
And it's such a tragedy that the battle had to be fought at all.
But, you know, that was a shining moment for the men in gray in my book.
Let me ask you this, Kirk.
Part with us some advice on how we as parents.
I am the parent of a seven-year-old who wears around her neck every day a piece of Jefferson Davis' home that we turned into a necklace.
And a three-year-old son, a seven-year-old daughter, and a three-year-old son.
Part with those of us who are still raising children, how we can immunize our children against the lies and attacks levied against our ancestors.
Keep them out of the public schools.
Homeschool them.
Do not let the government have them.
Homeschooling is the way to go.
It's the best way to raise your kids.
It's the godly way to educate your kids.
And you will immunize them to a lot of trouble if you'll homeschool them and not go to the public schools.
Secondly, get them involved in the Confederate community.
And you've got to set the example.
And what I'm telling people in this monument crisis, we've got to remember the desecrated monuments.
We've got to go over there and put flowers on the monuments and let people know that we remember them.
Bring your kids.
Let them put flowers too.
Bring flowers often.
And we've got to win this monument fight, or it's all over, in my opinion.
We've got to win it.
And so we've got to let the public know that we have not forgotten.
So if you're anywhere close to Memphis, get over there and put flowers in front of what's left of the forest monument.
And yes, the snowflakes and the cops and the janitor is going to pick it up.
Go put more and encourage your friends to put more.
And, you know, involve your kids in the education process.
Teach them about government and how it doesn't work or does work or how it's supposed to work.
And make sure they go to church every Sunday.
And you won't need to fall.
And don't be afraid to use physical discipline.
Corporal punishment.
Kirk, I think we're doing pretty good on that here at the Edwards House.
I surely do.
We homeschool every Sunday.
Well-behaved children.
I was very impressed with them.
That's right.
I didn't forget, but I failed to mention you did get to meet them.
And I take them down to Mississippi to visit the graves of their ancestors.
And we were down in Biloxi last month to visit Jefferson Davis's home.
And we do that stuff.
There was actually a mutual friend that we share, Kirk, Kim.
You'll know Kim in Missouri.
Yes.
They're kinfolk to me.
I haven't found the genealogical condition, but I consider Cody Marshall and their wonderful children as family.
Well, I'll share this with you.
She sent to me something.
She was the one who actually told me about this particular quote.
And it's something that I'd like to share with you and our entire audience.
It comes from a Tennessee senator, Edward Carmack, who was born in 1858.
And he wrote this in his pledge to the South.
The South is a land that has known sorrows.
It is a land that has broken the ashen crust and moistened it with tears.
A land scarred and riven by the plowshare of war and billowed with the graves of her dead.
But a land of legend, a land of song, a land of hallowed and heroic memories.
To that land, every drop of my blood, every fiber of my being, every pulsation of my heart is consecrated forever.
I was born of her womb.
I was nurtured at her breast.
And when my last hour shall come, I pray God that I may be pillowed upon her bosom and rock to sleep within her tender and encircling arms.
Kirk, is there a better way we could end this hour?
I love it.
Or as a McDonald people say, I'm loving it.
Sam, Sam, our producer, had a question.
I don't know if we'll have time to get to it.
Sam, can you relate the question to me?
If there's a single item we can do to preserve our culture, what would it be, Kirk, with only seconds remaining?
If there's a single item we can do to preserve our culture, what can it be?
Grab your neighbors, your pets, your workers, your people to church, and get them involved, or it's over.
We can't just be the minority.
We've got to pull Little America and what I call Normal America in, or, you know, there's not enough of us.
We've got to have allies, and we need to go out and find them.
And it's easy now because Antifa and Black Lives Matter are making friends for us we couldn't make ourselves.
And this is.
Amen, Kirk.
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We'll be back with the second hour right after this.