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	You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
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	And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political test pool is your host, James Edwards.
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	Welcome, everybody, to tonight's live broadcast of the Political Cesspool Radio Program.
	It's Saturday evening, March 17th.
	We're live with you tonight from a.m. 1600 WMQM Radio in Memphis.
	And I think it's the right time at least.
	It's freaking me out a little bit that it's daylight.
	It's daylight because daylight savings time happened last week.
	Normally it's dark when we come into the studio, or at least it has been for the past few months.
	And I guess now we turn back to the sun.
	It is St. Patrick's Day.
	And we're going to tell you about our favorite Irishman in the second hour.
	Who do you think it is?
	Can anybody guess who our favorite Irishman is?
	Well, Jack Ryan, yes.
	Besides Jack, Patrick Claiborne.
	And we're going to tell you a little bit more about General Patrick Claiborne in the second hour.
	One of our listeners in Dallas recommended that we start off the show tonight with Bridge Over Troubled Water in light of all of the recent setbacks and rancor that have plagued what they call the quote-unquote movement.
	And I want you to know here on this program, we will always stand strong, confident, and unapologetic for you.
	And we enjoy bringing to you a wide array of guests.
	We've got some great guests tonight.
	Ramsey Paul is going to be our first guest after the break.
	He's going to be with us live from Central Europe.
	It's past 1 a.m. as we broadcast live tonight.
	And he'll be with us.
	We're going to talk about an assortment of topics with him.
	But you don't have to search very long in life.
	And I want to start the show with this, and then we'll get down to our guest and get on to what I hope will be another inspirational and informative show for you.
	But you don't have to search for very long in life to find incidences of betrayal and disappointment.
	That's especially true in the realm of politics.
	And sadly, of course, even some of those who run in our own circles have been rocked by scandal, withdrawal, a myriad of other setbacks in recent weeks.
	It's not a big secret.
	It's been all over the establishment press.
	So I think many people probably know the situation with The two Matts, Heimbach and Parrot.
	And what I would say is nothing more than we have to remember that there's children involved.
	And I have met both of those men.
	I have spoken with both of those men in the past.
	We didn't work very closely with them or they with us.
	But, of course, you always wish for the best for people who are seemingly working for a shared cause and in some ways a shared vision.
	But what gets me more than the obvious mistakes that people make and the mistakes that were made up there were the fact that so many of our fellow travelers seem to be reveling in the gossip and the nature of the gossip of it all.
	As if it's just some circus for their entertainment.
	It's not that, folks.
	We talked about this last week.
	One of the things that I take a lot of pride in here on this radio program for the last 14 years has been our ability to work well with just about every notable player in the game, even those who can't or won't work together themselves.
	We enjoy general respect, and we reciprocate that by offering respect in return to our comrades.
	This is an important characteristic of leadership.
	Managing and maintaining positive relationships seems so simple, but precious few individuals are actually able to do it.
	And I think a lot of it, of course, is a product of how we were raised.
	I received the blessings early in life of being raised by a very traditional southern family who took me to church every week.
	I enjoy sharing those aspects of myself with my audience, and it's helped us forge a very tight and organic bond with y'all.
	But that's just who I am.
	That's who our team is.
	And those who attended our conferences, the Political Assessable Conferences in 2014 and 2017, respectively, can attest that the relationships that we share with our audience is very deep, very real.
	Some people can't be so open, but building those types of relationships brings about loyalty.
	And loyalty is a virtue that is in short supply these days.
	And, of course, we have to remember it is a privilege and a duty and an honor to publicly carry the torch of our ancestors.
	And because we do this so publicly, we are set to a higher standard.
	Not just we here, but people like Ramsey Paul, people like those who we've interviewed, and what an amazing guest list we've had in 2018.
	We put a post up at thepolitical accessible.org on Friday that's noted all of the guests that have appeared just so far, the early weeks of 2018 alone.
	Those people have a higher standard.
	They will be judged by a higher standard.
	As another friend told me earlier this week, our leaders must be like Caesar's wife.
	And that's a quote that Keith Alexander often uses.
	Blameless in all areas other than being heretics to the religion of racial equality.
	We must be respectable in all other areas of life to be taken seriously.
	To that, I responded by saying, amen, brother.
	And I want our work here, the work of this radio program, to be something that you can take pride in, something that you can be proud of.
	Infighting and foolishness and jealousy and ego and petty gripes, they have no place in my corner.
	And I'd like to think that we have led for these 14 years that we've been on the air with a strong sense of integrity and honor while also supporting and promoting the men and the organizations that are also doing good work on behalf of our people.
	Our cause deserves no less.
	And I'm not perfect.
	I'm far from perfect.
	We all are.
	But one thing that I think maybe separates some of the people that we showcase on this program and hopefully sets ourselves apart is the fact that we're always going to work to the very best of our abilities to present you with a product that is wholesome while also being at the same time, of course, unapologetic and successful.
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	Folks, I returned from a tour of Mississippi.
	I was in Jackson, Hattiesburg, and Biloxi for the last four or five days.
	Well, I guess it's been, what, four days since Wednesday?
	What is the day?
	Today's Saturday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
	Four days.
	We left Biloxi at about lunchtime today.
	We're on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
	Drove all the way back up to Memphis, got into the studio literally about 10, 15 minutes before we went on air.
	I was sweating bullets trying to get here on time.
	I'm going to tell you a little bit more about the people I met, what I learned while I was in Mississippi this week.
	We spent some time with supporters.
	We did some other work, behind-the-scenes work on the show.
	That's coming up in the second hour.
	And I think you're going to get something out of it.
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	And we've got more surprises for you coming up at the third hour as well.
	But first, Ramsey Paul.
	Ramsey Paul is back on the show again from Central Europe, burning the midnight oil for you, ladies and gentlemen.
	And we're going to be talking with him about an assortment of topics, his latest videos, his work, what he's seeing in Europe contrasted with what he sees when he's in America.
	He splits his time between America, the U.S. and Europe.
	And so we're going to learn all about that when we come back.
	He's already on the line.
	Stay tuned, folks.
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	Okay, everybody, it's a great pleasure to welcome back an old friend of mine, Paul Ramsey Paul Ramsey, burning the midnight oil in Central Europe tonight.
	Yeah, I'm here in Budapest, Hungary.
	It's honored to be back on your show.
	Well, it's an honor to have you, brother.
	Was it hard for you to stay up this late, or did you take a nap and wake up, or did you just plow through?
	No, it's Saturday or Sunday morning here, so it's no problem.
	So there's a lot of things going on, and it's a real honor to be on, so thank you.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you especially for taking the time again.
	This is actually the third guest we've had this year.
	We had Nick Griffin on, who stayed up late, but not quite as late as you.
	We had Andrew Fraser on in Australia when we had him on during our live slide.
	I think it was like Wednesday afternoon his time.
	So as we like to say in Australia, I think it was literally Sunday afternoon.
	So yeah, we make it work.
	We make it work wherever our people are around the world.
	And of course, you know, Ramsey Paul is the popular vlogger or YouTuber, Bob Whitaker, the former Reagan administration appointee who was a friend of mine, who has gone on to his eternal reward now.
	But he was one of the first people that I knew in talking about some of the issues that we discuss that really just relentlessly mocked the opposition.
	He weaponized humor, if you will.
	And of course, what Ramsey Paul has done has taken that to a next level.
	And the last couple of times you've been on, Paul, we've talked a little bit about the development of your YouTube channel and some of the content.
	So we won't go through the technical aspects of it, rather talk with you more about general topics tonight.
	But I do want to know, was that always your vision when you started presenting yourself as a commentator to make it to take a comedic route almost?
	Yeah, I wanted to make something that was approachable and a little bit less serious, mostly because there's a lot of really smarter people than me that do more of the serious stuff.
	One of my friends, Jared Taylor, I really respect the man.
	So he does a great job getting the intellectual aspect of it.
	So I try to keep my videos a little bit shorter and a little bit more, you know, just a little informal.
	So I think that kind of works better for me anyway.
	And of course, you were one of the first people that I know talking about these issues to really develop a very strong YouTube following.
	Others have done it since then, taking advantage of the medium.
	But before that, the videos that I would see with hundreds of thousands of views or even millions of views, it would be adults playing with Play-Doh.
	I actually saw one, I think, that had 50 million views.
	It was a box fan just on repeat.
	But you were actually able to do it with some pretty critical content.
	Did you ever think you'd have a following the size of the one that you have?
	No, it just kind of grew accidentally, actually.
	I never intended it to be this way, but it kind of worked out.
	And so I've really enjoyed it.
	I've been very blessed.
	I've had an opportunity to meet so many great people doing this.
	And I really thank God that I had this opportunity.
	So it's been a blessing.
	And of course, folks, we'll give you all the information that you need in order to follow Ramsey Paul there at YouTube and give you all of his other contact information before the end of the hour.
	He is with us for the remainder of the hour.
	So we've got plenty of time to get to all of that.
	And of course, one of the things we're going to be talking with you tonight, Paul, I love having people on from Europe or other parts of the Western world, whether it's Canada.
	We had Paul Fromm on in Canada last week, or as I mentioned, Professor Andrew Fraser in Australia.
	We had quite a few international contributors or guests this year so far.
	So we're going to get your perspective on the situation in Europe, vis-a-vis the situation in America.
	And we're going to get your thoughts a little later on in the hour about some of the things that are happening with the calls over here in the U.S.
	But first, let's just get into some of the recent topics you've been offering up there on YouTube.
	What are some of your recent videos?
	What are you telling us about in those videos?
	Well, recently I had the pleasure.
	They had a Orban, who's the prime minister of Hungary, had a parade and a speech for the National Independence Day.
	In 1848, the Hungarians got their independence from the Austrian Empire.
	But that celebration is more than just that.
	It represents sort of like our independence from England.
	It represents nationalism, and the Hungarians are very proud people.
	And what's great about Orban is he is like really one of us in his ideas.
	He talked about how everyone needs a homeland, and the West is the Western countries in Europe are soon the youth won't have a homeland.
	And that was one of his themes, and that Hungary belongs to the Hungarians.
	And he makes no bones that Hungary is in the Constitution as a Christian nation.
	It's not a Muslim nation.
	It's Christian, and they take pride in that.
	So it's very kind of optimistic to be here to see that vision where there's 10 or 20,000 people in the streets that are standing together in solidarity for that vision.
	And it wasn't just Hungarians.
	There's a lot of Polish people here, too.
	They have a strong tie to the Polish people.
	And ironically, a lot of these countries that were under communism when I was younger as a kid are now some of the countries that I think could help lead the way for Europe in general and even the West.
	So that was really optimistic, and especially in comparison to what's happening.
	It's a very sad situation in Britain.
	I think everyone knows about the recent more rapes and grooming of young British white girls by mostly what they call Asian.
	When they say Asian, they don't mean Japanese or Chinese.
	They mean Pakistani Muslims usually.
	And how the British government really looked the other way for the most part.
	And if you object to it, you, as a parent, could face arrest for having been racist.
	So a lot of this went on because everyone's scared to be called racist, so they're willing to literally sacrifice their children.
	It's so depressing, and it's such a contrast to what you see in countries such as Poland or Hungary.
	And so I hope there's going to be an awakening across Europe.
	And I'm going to be going in the 1st of April in Helsinki, Finland.
	They're having their first ethno-nationalist conference, and that's the theme called the Awakening.
	So I'm excited about that.
	It's going to be a large conference, and a lot of people will be there, such as Jared Taylor.
	Well, that's fantastic.
	What is it like?
	I know you're obviously just a visitor in Hungary, even though you do spend a considerable part of each year in Europe or split between here and there.
	What's it like to even be a visitor in a nation where the government is on the side of its own people?
	We don't take our own side here.
	What's it like just to be able to observe that, even as someone just spending time there?
	Yeah, it's really refreshing.
	It's because the largest political party here is Fetus.
	That's the part that Orban belongs to.
	And that'd be sort of equivalent to like Trump Republicanism.
	And then the next largest party is Jobik, which is actually further to the right.
	So actually, the biggest opposition party is even more right-wing than Orban.
	So that shows kind of the nature of the country.
	And then the third party are the socialists, but they're very minor compared to the others.
	So this is a very conservative country, and they're a very proud people.
	And they're very helpful.
	The people here are very nice.
	Obviously, I'm an outsider because I don't speak the language very well yet, but that's good.
	That's how it should be.
	They're very gracious, but they understand that Hungary is for them.
	It's not for Americans.
	And something I feel sad as an American about is Orbon brought it up in his speech: he wishes that the American NGOs would cease to meddle in the politics here in Hungary.
	Because unfortunately, America, where we used to be kind of the light on the hill, and we would promote liberty and Christianity.
	Now we tend to promote degeneracy and homosexuality and all the stuff they want to try to limit in Hungary.
	We, as Americans or the American government, actively promotes and causes issues over here, which is ironic because we're always complaining about supposedly how the Russians meddles in our elections.
	And here we are meddling in during elections.
	It goes beyond hypocrisy.
	It's unfathomable that they could even raise a specter of disdain over what influence those Twitter meisters had on our election when the American government is actually aiding and abetting the overthrow of many legitimate governments.
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	Okay, everybody, we're back with the one and only Paul Ramsey.
	You know him as Ramsey Paul on YouTube and ramseypaul.com.
	And by the way, I monitor Twitter, as you do, Paul, during these live broadcasts.
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	We're talking with Paul.
	And I love having Ramsey Paul on for a number of reasons.
	Basically, his work on YouTube.
	And it's a big one.
	But I love it tonight because he can give us a perspective from the mother continent.
	And when Nick Griffin was on in January, he said a lot of the things that Paul is hitting at right now, it's that Nick Griffin, of course, the former member of European Parliament, former head of the British National Party, he said it's over for the Cuck Island, as they are now calling it.
	It's over for the UK.
	He says he doesn't see there's any way for them.
	They're too far gone to come back.
	He said America is just a few years behind them, but the salvation for our people will lie in Eastern Europe.
	And he said it's not something that he celebrates, but he just realizes and accepts it as a matter of fact.
	And he too now is splitting his time in Central and Eastern Europe.
	Do you see that as the case?
	Is it going to be Russia?
	Is it going to be Hungary?
	Is it going to be these Eastern states, Paul, that provide the resistance and lead us to our awakening?
	I don't know.
	I hope the United States can get back into it.
	I'm still optimistic for my country.
	I'm obviously always an American, and that's my first love.
	And so I think we need to focus on our country and work with other nationalists around the world that share our values.
	And that's one of the things that's been so encouraging.
	It sounds like a contradiction, right?
	We're international nationalists, but it does help to work with other people in other countries because it's very similar concerns.
	But at the same time, respect what they're doing.
	Everyone does things a little bit different based on the society.
	And so, yeah, I don't want to give too much hope just for the East because I think we need to pull our part too.
	And we've done a lot of great things.
	As America and the West, in a lot of ways, we held back against the forces of communism.
	So we need to take a lot of pride in that.
	Just unfortunately, I think we became a little bit morally weak as a people.
	And part of it is we lost our faith, I believe, was a big issue, specifically Christianity.
	And ironically, even though the communist countries were officially atheist, they always retained, or at least the people retained a lot of their faith, and that really brought them through.
	So I think that's something that we need to rely on in the United States and the West.
	Well, and it's like it's like it was in the South.
	The people who were the most suffered, the people who suffered the most here in North America are the people who maintain the faith the most.
	And I think there is something about suffering.
	We talk about this as a recurring theme.
	There is something about suffering that forges ties that bind and holds people together.
	And people always talk about how backward Eastern Europe was.
	And now, of course, they are doing great things.
	And of course, I hope that one day this country will be able to do great things again as well.
	But right now, we're still hoping.
	Talk a little bit more, if you don't mind.
	And of course, we're talking about the governments of some of these Eastern European states and Central European states.
	Orb and Victor Orban, of course, we celebrate.
	And one thing I learned from you already tonight, Paul, is the fact that already Victor Orban seems to be about everything that we would want out of an American head of state.
	And you're telling me that the opposition over there is trying to pull him further to the right.
	So that could only be a good thing.
	But tell us a little bit more about the differences.
	And I didn't talk to Nick about this.
	We talked to Nick a lot about differences between the official policies on a governmental level or on a religious level between the East, Eastern Europe and Western Europe and the United States.
	But talk to us a little bit more about just the differences amongst the people.
	So you're out there, you're out and about, you're walking the cobblestone streets of Budapest.
	What do you notice?
	What is the biggest difference that you notice between the people there that you run into and interact with versus Americans?
	Well, most people speak English.
	That's a difference than America.
	That's literally true.
	When I flew back once to America, I immediately heard a bunch of Spanish being taught as spoken.
	And because everyone, at least under the age of, let's say, 35, they speak English here because you can't graduate from high school unless you learn English here.
	So that's their second language.
	But it is a homogenous population for the most part.
	They don't have much, as you would say, diversity.
	The only diversity they have traditionally had is the gypsy population, which is fairly small, but that is a presence.
	But otherwise, there's really not much, except for scattered here and there.
	They're pretty much all Hungarians.
	And again, they're Christians, at least officially.
	That's the official religion of Hungary.
	And so they all, I think they have a bind, which is really important for a people that we used to have in the United States.
	It doesn't mean that in the United States we allow freedom of religion and they allow freedom of religion here in Hungary.
	But you have to have common things that bring you together.
	I mean, what is, for example, the United States?
	We just a geographic landmass that you can throw everyone in there.
	I think it needs to be something more because the nation is the people, not the dirt.
	And you need the things that bind you together.
	And it can't just be some abstraction like the Constitution.
	It has to be something more fundamental, like language, like religion, like a shared history, a shared heritage.
	And that's something that they still have here quite a bit, which I think gives them a lot of strength.
	Because the Hungarians have suffered a lot.
	They've been under a lot of occupations in their history.
	And I think that suffering has helped them have a solidarity.
	And I hope what we're experiencing in the United States will do to that too, that it'll get us tougher and it'll bring us closer together as a people.
	I think, again, to repeat myself, there's so much in the Bible.
	The Bible even teaches us that suffering is something that can be virtuous.
	And of course, we don't seek to suffer.
	We don't wish to suffer.
	We don't want our children to suffer.
	But there are some good things that can come from suffering.
	The suffering of Eastern Europe is what saved it.
	Communism, in a very ironic way, saved Eastern Europe forward through the fires of communion and came out of the people.
	And that's inspirational.
	Paul Kersey, who was recently on the program, I think a couple of weeks back, said Heroes Arising, talking about Victor Orban.
	Victor Orban recently said, and this is the speech you may be referring to, Paul, the EU will not protect Europe.
	They do not want this migration to replace the people of Europe.
	Can you imagine?
	Donald Trump, as vastly superior as he may be over Hillary Clinton, would never get any rhetoric like Donald Trump.
	He'll tell you what he'll do for the blacks and the Hispanics and whatever, but he won't tell you what he's going to do with the whites.
	Victor Orban will.
	Vladimir Putin will.
	And that encourages me.
	So let me ask you this.
	What about the people on the street, the activists?
	What difference is there between the activists who are fighting nationalism and the Christian faith and for whatever issue you want there to be for our people, etc.?
	However you want to frame it.
	What's the difference amongst the activists in Eastern Europe versus the activists here in America?
	God bless them.
	Well, the activists, one of the things I've noticed, even the opposition, and there is some socialist opposition, but they're still very respectful of the country.
	For example, I was here a year ago and Orban was speaking and they were protesting, whistling and everything, making noise.
	But when they sang the Hungarian national anthem, they became very respectful too and sang along.
	So again, they have a sense of unity as a people, I think, within at least the ethnic Hungarians.
	I'll just say it that, because a lot of the problems that Hungary has faced historically, even with their 1956 revolution against the communists, the communist leaders weren't at that time ethnically Hungarians.
	And so that was an issue, and they understand that.
	Well, of course, even amongst the Jewish population here in America, it's very few, but they are in positions of power.
	That's just a matter of fact.
	Now, if you disagree with that, they'll take issue with that.
	If you disagree with that in their own publications, of course, to make mention of that causes one to be anti-Semitic, I guess, according to their definition of the word.
	But I would ask, what is the level of Jewish power and influence in the Hungarian apparatus in their institutions?
	Is it as much or less or more or less or about the same as American?
	We'll go to a quick break.
	We'll just say more or less are about the same.
	Still with us, Paul?
	Yes, I'm here.
	I'm sorry.
	I would say that it's different because Orban is, by the way, very close to Israel and he's a supporter of Israel, which sort of makes sense because he's a nationalist and Israel nationalistic too.
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	Okay, I know we're getting a little bit of chop in the connection.
	And Paul, if you're having trouble hearing me, let me know.
	It started to manifest in the last couple of minutes of the last segment here in Memphis to Budapest.
	I guess there's a glitch somewhere in the wire there in between here and there.
	But very quickly, we don't need to dwell on it, but you were talking about the influence that Jews may or may not have in Hungary.
	Finish that thought.
	I want to talk to you guys.
	I experienced that glitch too, so sorry about that.
	It was on my hand.
	Yeah, okay.
	You have to understand a little bit about the history of Hungary.
	But to clarify, Orban is a big supporter of Israel, and a lot of conservative Jews or Orthodox Jews donate to FIDES because they want to keep Hungary free of Muslims, to be honest.
	So Orban is very supportive of the Jewish community here in Hungary.
	So in no way he is anti-Semitic or anything like that.
	However, there is a history in Hungary that the early communists, especially going back to Bella Kuhn, who's the last name Cohn, and in the 1956 after World War II, they were pretty much all Jewish that had the tyranny that existed in Hungary.
	And the 1956 revolution was really almost an ethnic uprising against the Jewish power structure in Hungary.
	And after 1956, the revolution, actually, Stalin replaced a lot of the purge to a lot of the Jewish element here in Hungary.
	So there is still some of that issue, but I wouldn't say it's that people dislike Jews in general in Hungary, but they dislike Jews such as Soros is obviously a big villain here in Hungary because he wants open borders and try to turn Hungary into like a Sweden or a Britain where it's overrun with the third world.
	And most Hungarians don't want that or the Orthodox Jews do not want that either.
	Very interesting.
	Thank you for your tat being someone who certainly has more experience with people than I do.
	I'd be an interesting person to ask.
	I'm going to ask you about this.
	Now, of course, everyone knows that Ramsey Paul, Paul Ramsey, has made a name for himself through his YouTube channel and his comedic.
	Well, not necessarily comedic.
	It's sounding issues.
	It's a serious take on the issue of humor.
	And not everybody can do that.
	I can do that.
	He has the ability to operate using satire that is a unique gift.
	But also, if you heard out the interview, there was any question about it.
	And there should be.
	You know tonight that Paul is also someone who issues very seriously, very serious take on the issue.
	So you know a lot of the people here, a lot of the names, the same names that we know.
	What would you say, Paul?
	And give us your honest take or your unadulterated take.
	What do you think the state of affairs is in the NAS movement, if you will, in the States?
	Well, I think we need to, I did a video called The Portance of Integrity and Character.
	And in that video, I heard you kind of talked about that issue, James, a little before when the show first started, and I agree with you.
	And I was careful with that video because I don't want to throw stones because I have my own issues.
	But I think our leadership, one of the most important qualities of a leader is not really how great a speaker you are or organizer.
	That's all good or how attractive you are.
	And again, that's helpful.
	I think character is the most important thing.
	And this is, for people that are listening, even if you're not a leader, just in, I think your life, having character is the number one most important quality to have.
	And I say this not easily because in some cases in my life, I have failed in that.
	I realize that.
	And that's something every day I have to think about, making sure I choose the right choice.
	It's always a daily choice that you have to make.
	So I think that's really the big issue that we need to look forward to that are leaders in the future, which I think with the younger generation I'm really excited about.
	I think one of the things we need to look at is people, and we do have a lot of people with good character.
	I mentioned like Jared Taylor and many others, but we need to look at that as the prime thing to evaluate someone as.
	And really what it should be about is not us.
	It's about us and our people and establishing homelands for our people and security and safety.
	That's what it should be about.
	It shouldn't be about us and our views or our popularity, that type of thing.
	And I think some people get too wrapped up in getting the publicity to get their name in the paper, but that's not really what it should be about.
	It should be about our people, not ourselves.
	Paul, I want to tell you something from the heart.
	I always enjoy talking to you.
	And the couple times we've had on the show has always been a fun show.
	And I knew tonight would be a show I had a high expectations.
	But I got to tell you, what we've talked about tonight and your answers on these questions have exceeded expectations.
	And I appreciate what you've done tonight, what you've given kids.
	I agree, of course.
	And one thing you've got to know about a leader is that everybody is a leader.
	All a leader is somebody who has influence over other people.
	Everybody is a leader.
	Almost everybody.
	Husband, if you're a leader, you have influence over your family leader.
	And people would say, well, people who write history aren't choir boys.
	The people who write history always have had these flaws.
	And it's a matter of getting the job done.
	I'm Machiavellian to an extent.
	I mean, I want our people to win.
	The people that I admire the most are the people who that way.
	I would certainly rather win that way than be genocided.
	But the people that I admire the most are, as a Southerner, are people like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.
	Those people.
	Like you.
	I mean, by no means am I or you trying to be holier than thou and saying, well, I'm better than that guy, thank God.
	No, I mean, we all have our skeletons.
	We all lost.
	We all have our deficiencies.
	And there's not anybody listening to this show.
	There's not anybody alive today that would want the whole world to know everything that he's ever done.
	So we're not going to be in a game where we revel or get it over the fact that other people have fallen short of the mark.
	What we will do is we will pray for them and we will hope that they can come back and move forward in a positive way.
	But this, I think, I think it is important to do these things and to fight for our people in a way that will encourage the best of our people to come to the forefront.
	And with that being said, let's give you the chance.
	It's been an hour, like hours of this program that have gone by all too quickly.
	Plug all of your information.
	Give people everything they need to know about contacting you, following your work, et cetera, et cetera.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	Everyone can find me.
	Just type in Ramsey Paul on them.
	I'm on YouTube.
	You'll find me there and Twitter and my Patreon.
	And yeah, that's all you really need to do is to find my information.
	So it's been a pleasure, James, to be on your program.
	I really appreciate that.
	We're coming into kind of, I think, a serious time for our people, but I think that's a good time.
	We don't really get a choice to choose when we're born.
	Sometimes I wish I was born in a different era, but I think God puts us in certain situations or times, and we got to do the best and do our duty.
	And you never know how you will influence people.
	Like, I was really influenced by Joe Sobron, and I never met him.
	He never knew me.
	But sometimes you may think that you're not accomplishing a lot.
	And I don't mean you personally, I mean people in general, but you never know what influence that you have that will influence other people that can do great things.
	So if who knows, maybe something I will say will help a future leader, you know, in what they do.
	And I would be thrilled with that.
	And I think we need to have that attitude instead of worrying about egos and all that.
	I just want what's best for our people.
	And at the end of the day, I could say that I did, to the best of my ability, what I was supposed to do on this earth.
	So that's kind of my goal.
	You ended this hour with, I think, the most important thing you've said all night, because I tell myself that all the time, I tell myself, whatever accomplishments we've had, whatever accomplishments we may have going forward, if I can just influence somebody, just reach somebody who will, in some small way, be motivated as a result of my work or the work of this program, who will rise up and be a bigger and a better leader and will accomplish things far greater than I could have ever dreamed.
	I mean, maybe somebody's listening out there tonight to us, Paul, who will be that guy.
	And we don't know.
	And you never know.
	And like you said, Joe Sobern.
	Now, Joe Sobrin was who made appearances on this show before he passed away.
	Joe Sobrin was a great man, and he was a great guest.
	He was a great writer.
	So we don't know who we're reaching.
	You don't know who you're reaching.
	You don't know.
	There may be somebody who's not even been born yet that will one day watch the Ramsey Paul and will rise up to be a big person.
	So that's another thing we have to consider is not, hey, when's the last thing we had a rally of 500?
	What's the last time we held a conference?
	All of that's important.
	When is the last time we had a great interview?
	All of that's important, but it's not as important as being righteous and reaching somebody.
	I'm so glad you said that because that is something that I tell myself a lot.
	And I know I'm breaking up a little bit.
	So ramseypaul.com, ramzpaul.com.
	See, Paul, actually, I think the first man in the movement I ever met was taller than me.
	So they do exist.
	He and Michael Hill, I guess there are two, Michael Hill and Ramsey Paul.
	So I met Paul near Washington last year.
	We were at an event together near Washington about a year ago.
	I mean, I was like, you're tall.
	And people notice that.
	Anyway, I have.
	I have height.
	All right, get some sleep, brother.
	We're going to be back with everyone else in the second hour.
	He's in Budapest.
	So he's going to go to bed.
	RamseyPaul.com.
	Thank you, Paul.
	And we'll talk to you again soon for everybody else.
	Stay tuned.
	Second hour coming your way next.
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