Nov. 18, 2017 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
It's the third final hour, ladies and gentlemen.
And as high-octane as this show has been tonight, we've saved the best for last.
Can you even believe that?
I got to give Scoop Stanton some credit.
Scoop has been responsible for more than a couple of hits on this program over the years, bringing Anthony Coomi on the show.
He said, we got to get Anthony Coomi on.
I said, who the hell is Anthony Coombia?
Well, that was certainly a show that made a lot of news.
Scoop also responsible for bringing on Jim Lancia and Sean Berg and his correspondents.
And he came to me a couple of weeks ago.
He said, you've got to get Walter Urich on.
The 7-5.
You've got to watch it.
Well, I watched it today, and I said, Scoop, how quickly can we get Walter Urich on, please?
And it was just an enthralling documentary.
Walter Urich was an officer in the New York Police Department's 75th precinct from 1985 to 1998.
He now stars in the incredible documentary, The 7-5, which is available on Netflix, a riveting documentary that examines the case of Mike Dowd, a corrupt Brooklyn cop who became dirtier than the drug dealers he was supposed to be policing, according to Netflix.
And we're going to hear a little more about that incredible true story tonight.
Walter, thanks for coming on.
Hey, thanks for having me on, James.
Awesome documentary.
Watched it today.
Gave you the DM on Twitter.
Hope everybody follows you on there.
Appreciate you coming on.
Really like another guest we had tonight on relatively short notice.
Yeah, I put it up a little earlier that I was going to be on around 9 Central.
I mean, 9 Eastern, because I live in Central Tom.
I get confused.
Oh, well, we do too.
Well, there you go.
Okay.
Let's rock and roll.
We're all in the same time zone except for Scoop.
Hey, Scoop, you set this one up, buddy.
So I'm going to lead the lead questioning.
I'm going to leave the lead questioning to you.
Take it away, Scoop.
All right.
Thank you, James.
Prior to our conversation, we're going to start with the shooting in Baltimore.
But I want to get the listeners acclimated with you and the 705 movie and the men that you work for.
So we're going to talk about you a little bit first, then we'll move on to Baltimore and wherever else we have time for us.
All right, sir?
Yeah, sure.
That's great, Scoop.
Okay.
Now, at what point when you're working at the 705, you started working with Michael Dowd and working with Adam Diaz?
Well, you know, it was a little bit over time.
I met Michael a few times before, you know, on duty.
We had a couple of foot posts and a couple other details that we did together.
There was one true night that he understood and I understood where he was coming from and where I was coming from.
We had a foot post, Martin Luther King Park in East New York.
And it was a white guy walking back and forth watching us.
And I said to Michael, sitting in his private car, of course.
You know, I said, this guy's watching us.
He says, yeah, I see him.
And it turned out to be that guy Trombali that was in the movie with us, the general affairs guy.
And after that, Michael kind of knew where I was coming from, and I knew where I wanted to go and do my own thing and finding, you know, money here and there.
But Michael and I got to know each other pretty well over the next few months.
But it took about a year or so before we actually hooked up with the so-called Michael Down crew.
Okay.
And what kind of precinct was the 7-5 precinct?
New York City is going through gentrification.
You know, price of real estate Manhattan Island is going through the roof, and then so is the outer boroughs.
But what kind of house did you work on back in the 80s?
The 7-5 itself was a toilet, really.
It was a bad place to be, bad place to live, bad place to work.
You know, they were good people that lived in the area.
They couldn't probably afford to live anywhere else.
The crime was super high.
There was always shootings, guns going off, drug sales, family disputes with guns, knives.
It was a mess.
It was, I've said this once before in another interview.
It was like us against them.
You know, they'd shoot each other, stab each other, and when we showed up, they didn't want us there at all.
They wanted to take care of their own thing.
So we, you know, sometimes we back off.
You get gun runs, you get shootings.
And when you pull up, these two guys are shooting across at each other from across the street, and you just wait for the winner.
You know, who are you going to defend?
You don't know who the good guy is or who the bad guy is.
And if they kill each other, oh, well, you know, that's what they were intending to do.
It's changed a little bit these days, but back then, you know, they were looking to kill each other.
It was all over corners and turf and drugs and business, as they see it, you know, street business.
And we were interfering and they didn't like us.
That's why they throw rocks at us when we drive by.
It was a mess back then.
Wow.
And now, when you were performing your duties as a cop, not working for Adam, who did you stop for narcotics sales?
Was this strictly blacks, Hispanic, or is it a mixed bag of people?
No, it was a mixed bag.
You had everything from the Blacks, Latinos.
You had Jamaicans back then in the 80s.
The Jamaican posse were pretty rampant in the area.
It didn't matter.
Columbians, it didn't matter.
They were all mixed in.
They had their own turf, their own corners, and you know who was who and who was selling and who wasn't selling.
It was always the same corners all the time.
Right.
Now, did you get in a shootout with any of these peoples?
I got into two shootouts in my short career.
Both of them were white guys from Long Island.
Really?
Yeah, believe it or not.
Two white guys.
One in September of 87 and one in February of 88.
They were on, they came into East New York to buy four or five hundred vials of crack and to take it out to Long Island to triple or quadruple their money.
Same thing with weed.
You know, you buy an ounce of weed back then in New York City for $250 and you sell it for $12 out on Long Island.
So, you know, the risk versus the reward.
And these two guys I grabbed and got into shootouts with them.
You know, fired a couple of shots this way, fired a couple of shots that way, probably missed them by a mile.
But we got them both and they did some time for attempted murder on me.
Wow.
Now, besides the dope dealing and the shooting and the domestics and the car crashes and the fires, you also had a side job with Mr. Adam Diaz.
What was his profession in the 705?
Adam was a drug dealer, big-time drug dealer.
He had his own organization.
That's why they called it the Diaz organization.
From the time he was 19, actually probably from the time he was 17, he lived in Upper Manhattan and he expanded to the East New York area.
The way you expand, I would imagine that you move people out of the place that you want to sell your drugs.
And he had the reputation of being How can I say without getting my friend Adam upset?
He was a strong-wheeled businessman.
How about that?
All right, hold on right there, Walter Scoop.
Folks, if you're tuning in and you don't have a frame of reference, if you're wondering, what in the world are these guys talking about?
Well, we're going to give you a little more detail about that when we return from the break.
We're going to play a trailer of the film, The 7.5, which you may have seen on Showtime, can now see on Netflix.
Stay tuned for that.
One of the stars of this documentary, a man who lived the story, Walter Urich is our guest.
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All right, folks, before we continue the interview, which we're going to continue for the remainder of this hour, as long as our guests, Walter and Scoop, can abide that.
I told you a second ago, Scoop said, we got to get this guy on.
Believe me, you got to get this.
And sometimes, you know, I've worked with Scoop for over 10 years, and every time he's ever had an idea, it's honestly been a home run.
Bergen, Lancia, Cumia, anything.
He always has good ideas.
But sometimes it takes me a minute to realize that.
And I said, okay, well, I'll look into this.
And then I watched the documentary and I instantly got in touch with Scoop today.
I said, Scoop, how quickly can we get this guy on?
Anyway, if you go to the internet movie database, imdb.com, the description of this movie, The 7.5, and you can watch it on Netflix now, The 7.5.
It's all spelled out.
T-H-E-S-E-V-E-N-F-I-V-E, the 7-5.
I watched it today.
The description on IMDb, meet the dirtiest cop in NYC history.
Michael Dowd stole money and dealt drugs while patrolling the streets of 1980s Brooklyn.
Storyline continues on imdb.com.
Meet the dirtiest cop in the history of New York City.
That's saying something.
In the 1980s, Michael Dowd patrolled the meeting streets of one of the toughest precincts in Brooklyn.
He also headed a ruthless criminal network that stole money and drugs, ultimately resulting in the city's biggest ever corruption scandal.
And the tagline of the film in 1980s Brooklyn, the most dangerous gangsters were New York City cops.
Well, one of the people who lived that story and its history is our guest tonight, Walter Urich.
Let's quickly go.
I'm going to play a trailer for you of the film.
We're going to get back to the main event itself, an interview with Walter Urich.
Let's play that clip now.
New York is in the grips of a crime wave.
It was like the heyday of crack.
It was violent, man.
Homicides, robberies, rapes.
It was a war zone.
East New York, Brooklyn, 7.5 Precinct, the deadliest precinct in the country.
Who did I burn to get put here?
It would scare Clint Eastwood.
When I first went to the precinct, I hear about this guy, Mike Dowd.
Mike, he's just crazy.
Michael Dowd was a crook who ended up wearing a cop's uniform.
He was a criminal.
Once in a generation, corrupt cop.
I consider myself both a cop and a gangster.
Forget about Beverly Hills and all that other stuff.
The ghetto is one of the richest neighborhoods in Arabs.
Maybe there's some way we can make money from this.
La Compania.
It's a very serious Dominican gang.
$24,000 in our hands to talk.
Mike was a rain.
Is that no problem?
His business, if you mess up, you got killed.
I'm a New York City cop.
I'm taking a risk of going to jail for a long period of time.
And you're going to short me a dime?
Just wear it against mine.
I know I'm a cop.
I'd break your neck if your neck needs to break it.
I had three machines counting money, and there's still not enough time.
Everybody on the floor now.
There's no becoming a cop again.
You're going to have me killed.
We knew we were up against a really tough crew.
A month ago, I was regular cop, and now I'm a criminal.
That's what they taught us in the police academy.
Got a guy in the front, a guy in the back, got an entry team.
You felt like you were God.
The normal person that's doing wrong is going to have a fear of being caught.
I never had a fear about getting busted.
Michael Dowd did not have any fear.
Because the cops around me would never give me up.
Hey, folks, if that trailer sounds like something that would interest you, believe me, you want to watch the movie as I did just today, just minutes before we had this interview, honestly, a couple of hours before anyway.
The 7.5, it's available now on Netflix.
One of the main characters in this incredible true story is Walter Urich.
He's in the documentary.
He's on the line with us right now.
Scoop continued this amazing, unforgettable interview.
Go, Scoop.
Thank you, James.
Walter, I need to apologize for my co-worker, Mr. Edwards.
He's mispronouncing your last name.
It's pronounced your cue.
Right.
Ah, yeah.
Thank you, Scoop.
Yeah, just let everybody know, me and Walter had a great 90-minute conversation.
The first 30 minutes is me pronouncing his last name correctly.
Well, we practiced it actually before the interview.
I thought I had it down, Pat.
My apologies.
Go, Scoop.
No sweat, John.
All right.
It won't happen again.
Hell, you better not.
Walter, you were now the movie or the trailer we heard of Adam Diaz.
Just trying to protect the innocent.
All right.
All right.
Let's sit down, kids.
Walter, working for Adam D has, he was, how big of a drug dealer was he in Brooklyn back in the day?
He was the man.
He was the main distributor.
He got the keys into the area and he distributed them.
He sold all sizes, you know, from small, medium, large to extra-large when it came to cocaine.
Just like the guy said in the movie, he says, you go back to the door, you tell them what you want, and everything was laid out and ready to go.
All we did was, you know, protect them, sort of.
You know, if we knew something was going on or somebody was going to shake him down or somebody was coming after him from the police department standpoint, well, we let him know.
And in return, you know, we got a little grease across the palm.
But mostly what he really needed was other drug dealers put out of business.
And that's where, you know, we came in.
So how'd you put him out of business?
Well, we kicked down the doors and take everything that they got, everything that they could find.
Whatever it was, whether it was money, property, merchandise, cocaine, whatever it was, whatever was there.
We take the weapons.
We take anything that wasn't nailed down that kept them in business, we took.
So you left them there because the best thing that you could do is take somebody's dope and not arrest them because they have to answer to somebody.
They got to either come up with the dope or they got to come up with the money for the dope that they don't have anymore or leave town.
Hey, Scoop.
Yeah.
Hi, Scoop.
You mind if I ask your guest a question just for a second?
Go ahead, Eddie.
Walter, this is Eddie the Bombardier Miller.
Earned that nickname for some of his great antics.
Go ahead, Eddie.
Yeah, man, Scoop.
We go a long way back.
Walter, I can have a question.
Have you ever heard of a newspaper reporter now deceased?
His name was Gary Webb with the San Diego Mercury Star?
No, I don't believe so.
Okay, well, he did, he did some years ago.
He did a two-year investigative report.
It was the Chronicled under a volume called The Dark Alliance.
He documented, he was wondering where the hell all this cocaine, all these drugs were coming into his town in L.A.
Well, he said that the CIA was bringing all these drugs into L.A. in San Diego, and they were selling these drugs.
They were using the Crips and the Bloods to front the drugs.
They were using the money to fund their war with the Confras down here in South America in their other Black Ops wars.
To your knowledge, it begs the questions.
These people that you're talking about, where are they getting all these drugs?
Where are they bringing the drugs into the country?
To your knowledge, has the CIA ever been, like Gary Webb said, could you implicate them into bringing the drugs into that part of your town?
No, I don't have any knowledge on anything like that.
Al Rolls War was already here.
I'm just wondering how they got those drugs, where their supply, how they got them into the country.
So I was wondering, you know, in the nose of the federal government.
And I appreciate you letting me ask that question.
You know, the imagination can come up with anything.
These people that are in that kind of business, they come up with unimaginable things that Hollywood can't even think of to get things into this country.
And out.
You know, because the money's got to go out too.
So it's hard to fathom what these people come up with and how they get it all in here.
And, you know, get those shipments that the Border Patrol always gets.
It could be, you know, 100, 100 keys, 200 keys, 500 keys.
You know, that just might be, let's let the United States government just wake their lips a little bit.
All right, hold on right there.
Walter, apologies.
We got to take a quick break.
We're going to come back with Walter Yurk when we come back, everybody.
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Very privileged and honored to have Walter Yerku with us.
Yerku, I mispronounced it.
I feel embarrassed by that.
Scoop and I had training about an hour before the show, and we tossed it back and forth.
I practiced it.
It's kind of like Colonel, though, C-O-L-O-N-E-L.
Where's the R in Colonel?
We're in the South, man.
We're kind of ignorant.
Oh, come on now.
You don't believe me.
Ignorant.
But anyway, so, but hey, hey, the fact is, it's an incredible documentary, The 7.5.
I haven't had this much fun having a guy on like this since we had on Bob Mazer.
Robert, Charlie LaDuff.
Robert Mazer.
Robert Mazer, he, of course, was a DEA agent who infiltrated the Medellin cartel of Pablo Escobar.
In fact, his life story was turned into a movie entitled, Wouldn't You Know It, The Infiltrator.
Brian Cranston played the role of Bob Mazer in that movie.
And Bob came on with us for a series of interviews that Eddie had set up.
But now we have Walter Yerku with us who stars in A Real Life Story, True Story, also The 7.5 on Netflix.
Scoop, I'm turning this back over to you.
Scoop knocked another part, brother.
He always does.
Go, Scoop.
Thank you, gentlemen, finally.
Hi, Walter.
With the crutches in the 70s, the St. Frank Serpent Cole and the NAP Commission, and then later with the 7-7 and the 7.5 and other precincts, who was the frontline supervision of all this for the sergeants, lieutenants, the commanding officer, executive officer, internal affairs.
Were they out to lunch or what?
Excellent, excellent.
Well, you know, in the 80s, there wasn't supposed to be no such thing as police corruption.
They thought they took care of that with the NAP Commission, with the cerpical hearings and all that stuff in the early 70s.
And those hearings in the early 70s, the NAP Commission were more about cops from the 50s and the 60s, and which, you know, I wasn't there.
I was only born in 58, so I really couldn't tell you about that.
But as far as I'm concerned, there wasn't supposed to be any police corruption, you know, after the NAP Commission or into the 80s or into the 90s.
But I think it did drop after the NAP Commission, from what I've read about it since.
But with the crack epidemic that came in in the early mid-80s, you know, that just opened up the floodgates.
Money was just rampant.
It was everywhere.
Street drug deals were carrying $1,000, $1,500, $2,000 on them.
So if you rouse them, you take half their loot and send them on their way.
They were happy they got off.
And it just got bigger and bigger from there.
The 7-7 precinct that you spoke about, they were just off-the-wall guys.
They were borrowing equipment from the fire department, which, you know, you might as well paint the dead coats pink and said, we're stealing drugs on the back of it.
And yeah, they were just nuts.
When we did things, you know, we brought a ladder, you know, maybe to get to the second floor.
And it wasn't a ladder that we had to bring back to anybody.
You know, we just left it there and took off.
So, you know, it got a little wild in the 80s with all that cash.
I mean, you know, the first time I saw $200,000, I can't tell you how much of it I took, but there wasn't $200,000 there when I left that room.
Chasing people through an apartment building and through an apartment, and all of a sudden there's tables full of stacks of cash, just unguarded.
I guess maybe they saw us coming and they just laughed, but it was, how can you say?
It was like a candy store.
You walk in, take what you want, and nobody was there to stop you.
What are you going to do?
Right, but I'm saying like the frontline supervision, like your sergeants, your lieutenants, they weren't out there to check on you guys, making sure you guys were on the up and up.
Well, you know, kind of like, I guess, the organized crime television shows, pretty much everybody got a taste.
So not like organized crime, they pass them up to the bosses.
Well, it depends on how far you want them to go.
They changed a lot of bosses.
A lot of lieutenants came and went.
I think I had three or four different commanding officers in the 7-5 and the three years that I was there.
You know, they came and went.
Why they came and went, I don't know if they retired.
I don't know if they made enough money.
They didn't want to make money.
I had no idea.
You know, we had a daisy chain of payments, and that's the way it worked.
After it went into the next guy's hand, however he divvied it up was his business.
It's just like when it got into my hand, how I divvied it up would be my business.
You know, it depends on who was in and who was out.
I want to say this very quickly, Scoop.
I want to thank Walter for the candor and for the frankness.
And if you say, oh, well, I wouldn't have done that.
Watch this documentary and put yourself in that position, the position that these people were in.
Would you have not done that?
Could you have resisted that temptation?
That is a very difficult question to answer until you were there.
And that's what this movie is all about.
And I would encourage everyone to go to Netflix.com if you're not already a member, and I have been, and watch the 7.5 on there.
And we're going to talk a little bit more about current issues in the next segment.
But I wanted to chime in there because this man right now is being brutally honest.
And I, for one, appreciate that.
Scoop, back to you.
Thank you.
Over to Kenny.
Kenny Urrell was part of your crew.
He became a rat or a witness for the state.
Who else was protected when he turned over state's evidence?
What was the question?
Who's he protecting?
Yeah, or who else was protected or given amnesty for his cooperation with the state?
Now, just from what my knowledge is, he protected himself, his wife, His cousin, who was a cop in the 73 that got arrested at the same time.
Uh, well, actually, yeah.
Um, and I don't know who else he could have gotten in the for immunity, rather.
Um, so why would his wife well?
She was taking phone calls and taking orders.
Um, they even said that in the book.
Kenny wrote some uh book last year come out, didn't do very well.
Um, he uh him and his wife were doing this, and then they brought Michael in.
You know, it's kind of flaky and kind of flimsy on what the entire story is, you know, until somebody makes a feature-length movie out of it.
I guess, you know, we won't really all know.
I mean, you know, an hour and 40 minutes on a documentary, you're not going to get the entire story in.
But in the documentary, she was there too.
You know, she's the one that said, you know, I got kilos of primo cocaine in my kitchen.
So she knew about it.
You know, beyond that, you know, I don't know her entire involvement because I was in prison at the time.
Really?
Wow.
Now, I was saying that.
Go ahead.
No, I was saying you got a copy of Kenny's book.
What did you do with that book by Mr. UL?
Well, I got friends on Twitter and they sent me a copy because I wasn't going to buy it.
Kenny never contacted me in any way, shape, or form to be part of the project or just to say, hey, listen, I'm writing this book and, you know, you're going to be in it at a certain point.
You know, they never asked for my blessing or anything else.
And somebody sent it to me.
It took me probably about two hours to read.
I took out one page and then I burned it in my garbage can.
I set it on fire and I posted it up on Twitter.
Are you in contact with Mike Dowd, Adam, Adidas, Chicky, all the mother cats?
Yeah, absolutely.
As a matter of fact, Mike just spent the week at my house a couple of weeks ago.
He was here for a week.
Oh, wow.
Cool.
All right.
And before we run out of time, what are some of the things that was left out of the movie that you wish made it in the movie or you could tell the world?
You know, I was for me personally, I was accused of robbing a bodego, a grocery store in Brooklyn with Chickie.
And that's where I did prison time for was robbery.
We never robbed that store.
We were there for the merchandise, the merchandise being cocaine.
And we did leave there with some cocaine.
So, you know, even my son asked me when he was old enough, you know, why'd you rob that store?
And I had to explain it to him.
You know, I didn't rob the store.
This is what I did.
I never went into the cash register or anything.
You know, going into a cash register is for crackheads.
You know, we were there for a much larger thing.
And I'll put a lot of perspective if I have a few seconds.
When Michael Vick got arrested for them dogs 10 years ago, Charles Barclay said there wasn't enough money in it for me to get involved, you know, with something like that because these guys are millionaires.
You know, how much money can you get from dog fighting?
Same thing here.
You know, there's no money in the cash register in East New York.
Why would I risk $45,000 a year job for a couple of hundred bucks if there's a couple hundred bucks in the cash register?
The cash register wasn't important to me.
It was the merchandise.
That's where the money was.
Right, right, right.
Gentlemen, both of you.
Hey, Walter, we had you, I think, booked maybe for 30 minutes tonight.
We've already kept you 45.
Is there any way we can keep you to the wall?
We got 15 minutes left in the entire show.
Could you stay on one more break with us?
Yeah, sure, absolutely.
All right, when we do that, Scoop, if you could stay on too, I want to talk to him about current issues in Baltimore and also ask him if there's anything else he'd want to promote and how people can learn more about his story and his work and the movie, etc.
Stay tuned for that.
We'll wrap it all up right after this.
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The great Newark stand, although they claim to be from New York.
The Jersey boys, Frankie Valley, the four season, my favorite.
Listen, when we have an interview schedule for 30 minutes and it goes to 45, and then we ask for it to go for the full hour.
It's an incredible thing.
And this is an incredible story.
I watched it today.
I hope that Walter will return.
I hope that we can continue this conversation.
He's been an excellent guest, a good sport.
And again, anybody willing to be this honest is a friend of mine.
And Scoop, I give you the credit for bringing him to the program.
And I'm fortunate for knowing more about him and his work.
Scoop, let's get into.
Eddie has a question we're going to get to in just a second.
Scoop, we want to give this man an opportunity to plug whatever he wants to plug, certainly.
But I know that you for sure had a current event that was of interest to both of you.
Thank you, James.
This past week in Baltimore, detective Sean Suitland was shot and killed in West Baltimore while trying to solve another homicide.
This is just like the wire, except nobody else cut the cast members don't get up from the fake gun.
Walter, what can you tell us about what's going on in Baltimore and why is the murder rate of Baltimore City exactly the same as New York City?
Not the same rate, but the same numbers, despite the fact New York City is 12 times larger than Baltimore.
Yeah, isn't that something?
Well, I think there's a lot more people crammed into a smaller place.
And these people, some of them are hard workers, and some of them are just there to sell the drugs and make a living.
And a lot of these guys don't expect to live past the age of 20 or 22.
And, you know, the fact shows that these young African-American men are killing each other.
And, you know, it goes into Chicago, too.
You know, same thing.
It is just a war amongst themselves.
And can the police stop it?
Not really.
Not unless they take the ropes and chains off the police to let them go ahead and take care of business, so to speak.
You know, not go out and kill everybody, but start wrapping them up and start bringing them in.
That's what we started to do in the mid-80s in New York.
And the city, the mayor's office, Mayor Koch's office, stopped us from doing that because they said we were violating their rights.
You know, we were just bringing people in off the street, which we were doing.
We were holding them for 72 hours and then we were cutting them loose.
And a lot of the drug sales dropped, but then they were saying that the cops were taking more money than they, you know, taking money off the street.
So there was a lot of corruption allegations.
And when that happens, cops back off.
And that's when it starts to become the Wild West in these inner city neighborhoods.
You know, you call them what you want.
You call them ghettos.
You call them under-resourced neighborhoods.
Call them what you want.
It's friggin' war zone, just like they said about our precinct.
It's all about money, all about money.
Who can make the most?
And whoever has the most wins.
It's unfortunate that they're killing each other, but they are killing each other over it.
And then they come up with these stories.
And I'm going to say, White Bread America really doesn't understand about this because they were never in a ghetto.
They avoid those places.
So they really don't understand the goings on or why cops do what they do or why cops don't do what they don't do.
You know, you could be guilty by doing something about it.
You can be guilty by not doing something about it.
Many cops choose not to do anything about it.
And that's why they're having so many homicides.
Wow.
Fantastic, fantastic.
It really is.
That's some of the best commentary we've had.
You know, I just like your makeup quick comment.
I don't see any difference in what's going on there.
You said who's got the most money wins.
It's just the same way with government, legitimate government.
The United States got the most money.
We're bombing the most people.
It's just another level.
But let me ask a quick question if we have time.
Walter, do you think that the good so-called quote good cops, whatever you want to call it, good cops, if he did not try to go along, did not try to take the money, say, like in the movie Serpico, would they be rubbed out?
Would they be ostracized?
Would they be done away with?
What about that?
No, yeah, I guess ostracized, you know, maybe in low-case letters, you know, nothing capital.
You know, they could get, you know, these footposts where they don't see their shoes because the weeds are so high.
Or if they're in a car, they get the worst car, you know, that doesn't run very well.
You know, the lights don't work.
The one don't work.
They can end up with their locker in the shower with the shower running.
Things along those lines.
But they were, you know, cops.
I could probably name, you know, a few honest cops that never took anything, never would, never wanted to.
And that was fine as long as they didn't stick their nose in our business.
Didn't rat.
I gotcha.
Nobody likes a rat.
Nobody does.
Hey, Walter, Showtime, Sundance, Netflix, these are all entities that had a hand in this documentary that you star in, which we encourage everybody to take a look at the 7.5 and catch it on Netflix.
What was it like having your life story turned into an event like that?
It was pretty odd.
Now I'm kind of like in everybody's living room at the flip of a button.
It was kind of odd when it got on Showtime a couple of years ago.
And it was on Showtime.
It was the longest-run documentary that Showtime ran week in, week out, month in, month out.
And that went up until earlier this year when Netflix took over.
You know, the documentary's got legs.
You know, you haven't heard this.
This isn't the last of it.
There's irons in the fire, so to speak.
I guess I'm learning the Hollywood lingo.
There's some Sony has the rights to it now.
Sony has contracts with some of the cast members.
But the 7.5 still has legs.
We still think about getting a movie out.
A feature is going to be made or a TV series.
And it's going to be on, it's going to be each individual putting in their own ideas for true stories.
Of course, the names are going to be changed to protect the guilty, of course.
But we're looking forward to a docudrama series on television in some form or fashion.
But a feature is in the works.
There's people been hired to do writing, but nothing concrete yet.
They haven't had anybody as far as what do they do.
The screen testing there?
Yeah, none of that.
We said earlier, Brian Cranston played Bob Mazer in the movie they made about his career.
Who would you like to play you?
And then Eddie and then to Eddie and then to Scoop.
Who would you like to play you in Hollywood?
You know, I don't know.
I don't know.
Somebody that's 6'5, 290, 300 pounds with red hair.
Bulletproof.
You know, I always told the producers over at the Independent Film Company who did the documentary that, you know, I can only play me.
I heard that.
Who knows?
That's what I say about me.
Hey, Eddie, 15 seconds or less than that.
I'll just make a quick final word on this.
I was going to make a quick comment.
Walter, we're going to get you on our side.
We're going to sign you a contract, and we're going to offer you a deal that you can't refuse, my man.
Joey, right now, recording comedy.
Right radio.
Well, thank you for that, Eddie.
What a contribution.
Thank you.
I'm hoping.
Okay.
All right, Scoop, you get the last word.
You put it all together.
Scoop's the man.
Walter, let the people, please let our listeners know that whatever you're promoting, how they can contact you, watch you, get on the social media, anything you need to want to promote, go ahead.
The floor is yours.
All right, right now, I'm only on the Twitter social media.
It's at Walter Yerku.
All my information is in there.
My email is in there.
We have I got t-shirts for sale.
I can't tell you what the, I can't say on the air what's on the front of the t-shirt, but it's a few quotes from the movie with a silhouette shot of myself.
And don't forget, you know, you got Michael Dowd at themikedowd.com.
He's got t-shirts and stuff.
He does speaking engagements.
I do them every now and then for law enforcement, you know, how to detect your law enforcement, you know, if people are on corruption and that kind of thing, you know, how to spot it.
And it's very simple.
People just don't see it because they don't want to see it.
But yeah, we just, sometimes me and Michael, we just get together and travel around.
This past summer, he was also here for a week.
We went to Chattanooga and he figured out how to do live stuff on Facebook.
And that's what we did, driving up and down I-24 in southern Tennessee and then out of Chattanooga, where we were, what we were doing, who we were with.
And, you know, we pretty much have a pretty grand time when we get together.
I talk to Chicky two, three times a month.
Talk to Adam, maybe once a month.
The other guy, I don't talk to him at all.
And we're all pretty much in touch.
Even Baron Perez, who is silhouetted in the documentary.
Talk to him every so often.
Wow.
Why was he silhouetted?
Baron, was silhouetted in there with the dreadlocks?
Yeah, yeah.
Was he a witness or something?
No, he was.
He was the only one of South City.
He's the one that hooked up Michael and Adam.
We'll have to find out more next time.
Hey, folks, listen, watch the documentary, The 7.5 at Netflix.
If you want to follow Walter on Twitter, we've retweeted a couple of his tweets at our handle, so you can follow him there.
Walter, thank you so much for coming on and spending an hour with us.