Jan. 9, 2016 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back to the show.
Not a minute to waste.
We're the third and final hour.
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James Edwards, Eddie, Miller in studio.
It's Saturday evening, July.
It's not July.
It's Saturday evening, though, January.
It starts with the J.
I almost said June there.
My God.
Hot is July.
This radio station tonight.
January 9th.
And Sam Bushman, who called in last week live, making this the first broadcast, the first network to offer breaking news, live coverage of this story.
It's almost unbelievable, folks, but this show airs at 4 p.m. Pacific time every Saturday night.
You look it up.
Nobody was talking about it before this network.
Totally incredible what we were able to do.
And so we're talking to Sam.
Sam did a marvelous job in the last hour of breaking down the history of how we got to where we are now in Oregon.
He's going to answer two more questions, and then Eddie's going to take over.
Sam, I asked you, why take over this particular facility?
How is that germane to the issue concerning the Hammonds?
And then you were going to tell us why you support the cause but do not support the actions taken by Ammon Bundy.
Take those two from the top and then we're going to Eddie.
All right.
So the first question in my mind is, why do they choose this location?
And the reasons are legion.
They're many.
And I can't even begin to explain them all to you because I'm not Amon Bundy.
And I was not part of the planning of this thing.
Remember, I stand against their action.
But I agree with them in principle.
And they're personal friends of mine and I'll defend them until the death.
Let's make that clear.
I'm not afraid of this thing.
Some say I ran from the fight.
It's far from the truth.
However, they chose this place because, let me just start out by making this point.
There are signs all over the refuge.
And here's what it says.
Welcome to the Wildlife Refuge.
Now, I got a question.
Can Ammon take that welcome sign literally?
Well, he did.
Secondly, it says it's a refuge.
Is Ammon not taking refuge from the hostilities of the federal government?
Remember, a couple of years ago when they won at the Bundy Ranch, the government said, we will get back.
We will, we will, you know what?
You're going to lose.
Even though you won now, we're going to get you.
And they've been worming stuff through the courts, ready to take action against Ammon Bundy and all those who stood at the Bundy Ranch a couple of years ago.
Are they literally taking refuge from going to jail like the Hammonds?
And the answer is yes.
So welcome to the Wildlife Refuge.
They're saying we're taking refuge and thank you.
We'll take your welcome sign and we'll make it literal.
And they did.
Now, the other reason that they took this place is because it is in Oregon where a family just went to prison wrongfully on false terrorism charges.
Okay, so they're doing it in an effort to get the Hammonds released.
And that's one of the list of grievances, by the way.
And by the way, I just was part of this.
A friend of mine named Mike.
He owns a TV, online TV service in Idaho.
He put me on the phone line and he watched while they literally, peacefully, unarmed, delivered their redress of grievances to the FBI and to the Harney County Sheriff's Office.
I was on the phone line hearing them present this just about an hour and a half ago.
Okay, so this idea that they're armed to the teeth and not peaceful is a lie.
This reality that they did it to take refuge and that they were welcome is true and that they want to free these Hammond innocent people, family.
There's other reasons because they did take part in the mining fiasco that took place up there.
The miners begged them to come and help them and they did and even the oath keepers were part of that one.
It also prevents them from picking up Ammon, Bundy, and others based on the former defense at the Bundy ranch because now they're taking refuge.
There's other reasons though.
And that is that it's 30 miles outside of a very small town.
The town, I was in it, I ate dinner in it.
I ate breakfast in it.
And I walked around it.
It's a tiny town of about maybe 7,000 people.
It's called Burns, Oregon.
This wildlife refuge is 30 plus miles outside of that little town.
So it's the middle of nowhere.
So when the mainstream press tries to lie to you and tell you they're threatening people, who's out there?
A couple of prairie dogs and some cattle and maybe a couple of ranchers that support them.
All right?
They're not threatening anybody.
That is an absolute manipulated lie.
And they took this place because it's so far away.
They could prove that it was an innocent, peaceful attempt.
Now, let me make it more clear.
When they went there, just so you know, the place was closed.
It was a weekend.
The doors were unlocked and they peacefully walked in.
They didn't take hostages.
They didn't use their weapons.
They didn't break and enter.
In fact, right now there's attorneys debating on what's going to happen because they didn't even break any laws, James.
All right, but at the same time, we've got to let Eddie take over.
And I know he's got some questions.
We'll get there.
But anyway, I just want to make that very clear.
So they did that because they haven't even broken any laws.
What building can you take over in the middle of nowhere to make your point, but not threaten anybody where you don't have to break any laws to take it over?
It's muddy waters.
I'll say that.
I agree.
I'm just saying I'm against the action.
That's their point of view.
I'm just telling you the story as it really stands right now.
I'm not against this action because of government laws because the government's the one breaking all the laws.
Let's talk about who the aggressor is.
It's the government.
Right now, the Ammons and others, Ammond, let me start over.
Ammon Bundy and others are peacefully in this place, and ranchers are coming to see the refuge, and they're bringing their children.
There's children at the ranch or children at this refuge.
Not by the people who took it over.
They didn't bring children because they didn't want to put children in harm's way.
But there are children there.
When I call in, I've got members on the inside that are friends of mine.
I talk to them every day.
When I call, I hear children in the background, and that's because the ranchers are coming through to see the refuge, and they bring their children, and children are there.
At the same time, the sheriff's got a barricade block around his sheriff's department.
The FBI is arming themselves to the teeth.
The FBI is arming themselves to the teeth.
Who is the aggressor, people?
I want to make that very clear now.
Let me tell you why I stand against this action.
It's not for government reasons or law reasons because we can debate the law all day long.
But I'm talking about a higher law, God's law, and I'm talking about the moral high ground.
And let me explain to you that I will take my page from the Founding Fathers playbook.
The founders were abused, abused, abused for decades, decades, decades, just like this.
Like we have.
And a lot of people believe that the war and the Declaration of Independence just like happened in a couple of years.
It isn't true.
And the founders were peaceful, They even cartered soldiers in their homes.
Just like we've been.
Well, we haven't.
You've never had a soldier being quartered in your home, Eddie.
Come on.
We've got you.
No, stop.
You haven't.
No, this is not a good pain.
You're going to lose.
You have not had a soldier cartered in your home.
I have a lien on my.
I might as well have a lot of people.
I know.
But that's a whole lot different than a soldier looking at your wife with lust.
Let's not pretend they're the same.
They're not.
Is it bad?
Yes.
Is it wrong?
Yes.
But is it the same?
Not even close.
Let's be very clear.
All right.
Now, this whole point.
Hold up.
Let me, I got to ask you this question, Sam.
It's important to understand my reason, and then you can ask your question.
I have a question here right quickly like Sam.
All right.
Now, we have two people in jail.
Am I right or wrong?
Yes.
You're correct.
And are they imprisoned?
Are they imprisoned on what we call a non-crime?
I would say they're in prison on a non-crime, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
And just like the guy in Mississippi, and just like hundreds of people out in the United States, how could it be worse than that?
I would say that would be as bad, at least as bad, as having soldiers quartered in your house.
And Sam, I'm asking you this.
How let's just say, let's just say.
And now you get into a discussion about how widespread it is.
Can you put an example where it may be worse?
Yes, but by and large, it's a good idea.
The worst answer is clearly no.
Let me ask you this, Sam.
We know it's widespread.
I got a question to answer.
Susie, come back to the break.
I got to ask you this.
All right, but I got to explain my opposition.
My reason why is it's based on moral law.
And the founders drew the line in the sand and they were peaceful even when troops are quartered in their homes.
And they drew the line when King George came for their guns.
And they said, if we don't stand now, we never will be able to.
We are peaceful until we have no choice.
And the God-given, unalienable right of self-defense takes over, and we defensively will stop you from taking our guns.
And they did, and that created the Revolutionary War.
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And now, back to tonight's show.
I want Eddie and Sam to have a big back and forth for these next two segments.
And we'll really get to the meat of the matter now that we have a full understanding of how we got to where we are in Oregon and with those people there and how much longer they'll be there and how the government will deal with it.
That is still to be said.
Sam, 30-minute wrap-up, and we go to Eddie.
A 30-minute?
All right, I'll take 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
All I'm saying is that the founders were incredibly peaceful no matter what abuses they took until the final line in the sand was drawn, which is we will not let you take away our God-given right of self-defense because if we let you do that, we'll never, ever be able to stop you from your tyrannical abuses again.
And so they defensively said, you know what, if you're coming for the guns, we will not let you take them.
We will not do it.
The problem with Ammon's move and those with them in the refuge right now is that they took offensive action.
And the problem with that is they have not tried all peaceful means first.
Yes, they've tried a lot of things, but they have not tried all peaceful means.
Let me give you an example.
There were 700 people at the rally.
Just imagine if there were 7,000, 70,000, or 700,000, the Hammonds would be free right now, my friend.
Sam, I got to go back.
I got to go back, son.
I love you, but I couldn't disagree with you more.
You'll lose the moral paradigm, my friend.
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We have people, I'll say it again.
We have people in prison, Sam.
Yes, we do.
Right there in Oregon.
We have to all over the United States for non-crime.
Yep, and so do the founders.
That's the only thing in anything that the founders had to put up with.
I say the line in the sand has been crossed eons ago.
My dictator-in-chief of Washington, D.C. had just passed, had just passed another executive dictate from the dictatorship from His Majesty.
And he's going to round up the guns.
Where's the line in the sand?
Like I told people, I have a lien on my house.
I know other people have liens on our house.
They've taken over the university system.
I agree you're frustrated, but let me tell you everything.
I say the line has been passed is much more, probably more so than they did with the Pharisees that they did to the founders of this country.
And I say if we don't back these people and give them the green light, I say that we're almost being a de facto traitor to their cause.
They're being prisoned unlawfully.
How much worse can it get, Sam?
I've clearly defined the line in the sand that the founders used.
Historically, it's impossible to debate my assertion.
And I want you to tell me where the line in the sand is.
Well, there were hundreds.
In fact, they had the states in the Articles of Confederation before they had the Constitution.
And all the states were virtually at war with one another, my friend.
You couldn't let your lady walk down the street without the lust of the soldiers upon her.
It was way worse.
It's that bad now.
No, it isn't.
It's that bad now.
Sam, we think they're bringing all these, they're bringing all these American-hating, Christian-hating Muslims in all over the country.
They're bringing them in Europe.
It's always Europe for us.
So I asked you a question.
Where's the line in the sand?
How long will we wait, Sam?
Like Churchill, like Winston Churchill said that he was a demon.
Winston Churchill said was a demon, but he did say one thing right, Sam.
He said, if we don't act when we have victory is, we have a great chance of victory here.
We still have our guns.
If we don't act now, there will come a time when we are so poor and so disarmed, which victory will be totally out of reach.
But resistance will be better.
Fighting and dying against the Zog will be better than slavery, Sam.
Well, I've given you a historical reality of where the line in the sand is and why, based on offensive or defensive majority.
We have different lines.
I want you to tell me where the line is, Eddie.
The line has already been crossed, Sam, and we have a control.
Hey, let me get to you.
We have, for instance, we have a Federal Reserve, a foreign power controlling our money system here in the United States.
We have the federal government has taken over the school system.
We agree.
They've taken over the health system.
They've kicked people.
People can't even afford to go in the hospitals anymore because they're stinking federal insurance.
They're forcing people to have liability insurance to drag down the highway.
We're getting poorer and poorer and poorer.
That's my line.
Maybe, maybe.
But I don't understand your line.
In my line, listen.
And Peter, I had an argument with a person the other day, Tim.
Well, Jesus was peaceful.
You know, when Peter cut an ear off in the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus healed the ear.
And I said, okay, little lady, I'll call her Alice.
How long did Peter have that sword?
How long was he with Jesus when he had that sword?
I say he had that sword at least a week before he went into the Garden of Gethsemane.
Jesus never, there's not one place in the Bible where Jesus rebuked Peter for having that sword.
And matter of fact, Jesus gave him an order to get that sword.
And Jesus said, if you don't have a sword, but I'm still not understanding the clear line that we can as a nation understand and act according to.
Well, where's your line, Sam?
I just told you, when they come for the guns, when they literally come to take your gun, you need to not let them.
How about an executive order being passed in?
That doesn't mean anything.
Every day it's.
You know what?
They have veterans like myself, Sam.
I know veterans that can't go get a gun because, like an idiot, they went and took psychiatric treatment from drugs for post-traumatic stress tonight.
I get it.
I agree.
Break close to that line.
By the way, one of my friends with a U.S. Justice.
How many shall we get?
Michael Connolly.
How many shall we get?
Has been filing lawsuits and winning on behalf of veterans right now, by the way.
I have a lot of people.
But they're not going to obey those.
Sam, you admitted yourself.
Sam, you said yourself that the federal government.
We win some and we lose some, and they obey some and they don't others.
Let me give you a moment.
They're not even obeying their own laws.
There they are.
Nick Finch.
Nick Finch out of Florida defended a man with his gun rights.
The governor went against the sheriff, kicked him out of his office, threw him in the clink.
We worked and defended him, and eventually he won, got his job back, got back pay, and he won and the governor got slammed.
That was just in Florida with Nick Finch recently.
It was in a county called Liberty County, and there was Liberty in Liberty County that day.
And so there are wins that we make, and to say there aren't any just isn't true.
Well, I don't say there's not.
There's a few here and there.
Maybe a token wins.
That was not a token win.
You just had a sheriff restored to be the greatest defense law official in his county was just restored with back pay.
That's not little.
It's huge.
Sam, I agree with that.
But, Sam, we have a totally different outlook.
I say to you, the federal government is in every aspect of my life.
Sam, let me ask you.
You ready for the debate?
I got a question.
Why aren't you on your way to this refuge, my friend?
Why don't you accept the sign that says, welcome to the refuge?
Why don't you go?
Well, load them up.
I'll tell you.
Get in your vehicle and ride on up there.
You can do it, buddy.
You're free.
You're free in America.
You know what, Sam?
I'll even pay for your gas if that's the problem.
Hey, Sam, they ain't come to get my guns yet, Sam, so I ain't going to move.
I'm taking your guns.
That's right.
Now you're thinking properly.
I'm grateful for your enemies.
This is a good debate.
But why don't you pay?
James, why doesn't Eddie go?
If he's on the screen, they ain't talking about guns yet.
We knew he'd agree with you in the end.
I'll even pay for Eddie's gas to get there.
James.
Oh, now you got, he needs a little bread for feed him too.
I'll tell you what.
If James will come with me, I'll go.
See, Eddie doesn't have the cojones he pretends he has.
Y'all, oh, I got it.
Now, by the way, I was there, though, just so you know.
I don't talk from being a wimp or telling somebody else to do it.
I was there.
I will give you that.
I will definitely give you that.
But, Sam, why aren't you there now?
I'll tell you why I'm not there now because I don't agree with you.
He doesn't agree with it.
I don't agree with their action.
Why did I not do it?
Because when they took action I disagreed with, I said, we part company, my friends.
Well, I love you.
I'll defend you, but I don't agree with you.
And I wanted to make that abundantly clear.
Well, let me ask you, Sam.
I love you to death too, son.
And I'm still waiting for you to get out of the car.
I'm enjoying the crap of this debate.
This is a great debate about you, Bridget.
Bridge, you prefer a plane ticket, my friend.
Well, you can go through the TSA on my dime, even.
Now, I did fly to do the New York Marathon with my oldest.
Well, this is a greater cause than your marathon, isn't it?
Well, this is whole liberty incarnate at stake, my friend.
Well, yes, it is.
There are some similarities.
Come on, you're ready to go.
It is a cause.
But now, Haas, you're ready to go.
Let me think about your Bible for when you land.
He's got the Bible with the whole letter.
Think about that.
Now, will I be able, do I have to come out there with just good wishes in my hand?
They got guns or whatever.
You might get mowed down.
We might be down a co-host.
I don't know what you mean.
If you do it right, you could probably bring your firearm.
I'd recommend against it, but you're free to do so, sir.
This is America.
That's my whole point.
Great.
I'm telling you what.
This is right now.
No, I got something better.
Me and James, the political suspool, we need to take some action right here.
These are Shelby County, United.
I actually agree with Sam.
We need to go challenge the stinking sheriff here in Shelby County, Tennessee.
I agree with Sam.
I hope you're not looking for a building to take over Reddy because I'm against it.
Reddy's not going to go take over a building.
Give me liberty or give me death.
I agree with that statement 100%.
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Come on, love Bishop.
Come on, I'm ready for the debate.
Different course of action.
I want to say this.
I want to weigh in on this.
I want to weigh in on this.
I agree with Sam because you cross whatever the line is.
Apparently, there's confusion on that.
You cross the line.
Very clear.
It's offensive versus offensive, James.
All right, but you cross it before the people are ready, and you're just going to go up there and become a martyr.
Well, maybe that could have some long-term effect.
If you go up there right now, you're either going to get put in jail or you're going to get killed.
And that's not going to do anybody any good because most of the people out there probably are somewhat sympathetic, but they're not sympathetic enough to take action.
And if the people aren't behind you, I got to ask you a question, son.
In other words, you cannot have more than one freedom.
Is there more than one line?
Hold on, you cannot have more freedom.
From the line, James, you cannot have more freedom than the people are educated and world to support it.
It's a fundamental story.
That's what we're doing what we do on the radio.
I'm going to ask you and Sam.
I'm going to ask Sam and James.
Now, just because the founding fathers, and listen, it wasn't, you know, when the British were coming for the guns, the Frankers had started way yonder before that.
And let me ask you and James a question.
Are there more than one line and saying, if they're firearms, you mentioned the courting of the troops in the place, you know, in the houses, the taxes, you name it.
In other words, is there a single line of civil disobedience?
The answer is no, there are more than one lines, and you're absolutely right.
And that's why I supported the defensive action at the Bundy Ranch and not this offensive action.
You're exactly right.
We have a measured response.
We have a measured response based on the circumstances we face.
And there's guidelines of morality that educate us on what to do when and how.
And a defensive measure is always valuable.
So if we would have brought 700,000 people rather than 700 people to that peaceful rally, I submit to you the Hammonds that would not be there today.
That's probably true.
I'm going to promise you this over the air, too.
Although, I'm like James, I have more irons at the fire than you can possibly count.
Not me.
I don't have any.
I'm just kicking off the picture.
Oh, no, you know.
But hey, I'm going to take what you said in consideration.
See, here's something else.
I'm glad you got on the line.
I've been trying to get the political suspect.
I think you ought to pray about it when you come to the right conclusion.
We want that on the air, Eddie.
We got to pray.
I'm glad you mentioned this, Sam.
I'm glad you mentioned the praying.
And Sam, I know you and me are of one accord, just like they were in the upper room.
You're right about that, sir.
At Pentecost.
At Pentecost.
We have to pray.
You know what?
I think our people are going to be, like the Bible says, the saints are going to be worn out in the end.
They're going to wear us out.
Now, I'm going to bring a Bible question to you, Eddie.
You ready?
Fire away.
The Lord says, if you repent, he will heal our land.
And he will protect us.
It's not Isaiah.
That's in Hosea.
It's not an Isaiah.
James will look it up though.
Where we're a biblical scholar.
My computer runs so slow at the radio station.
We're on the air.
Anyway, Sam, you're actually right.
Hey, Sam, let me ask you.
It's in second.
I'll give you a hint.
It's in second something.
Anyway, I digress.
The question is: will the Lord heal our land if we repent and if we keep his commandments, if we keep the moral high ground, sir?
Will he?
Well, it depends on what you call what you see.
You may defining the moral high ground.
I think you and I, that's where we split hairs.
I think we're defining the moral high ground differently here.
That's possible for sure.
James?
You know, because, but secondly, I'm going to ask you a question.
And this has to do, this goes back to like in Genesis where Abraham, where, well, Abraham was praying for Sodom and Gomorrah.
Sam, how many people have to be, right?
How many people will have to be praying to heal our land?
Well, look, we have got to return to God.
This has got to return to God.
I'm glad you brought that up.
That's a great point.
That's something we can do tonight without taking any illegal action.
It's not illegal to pray yet.
So it's a fight against good and evil.
And I'm going to tell you what I'm going to do.
And by the way, that's a line in the sand.
When it is illegal to pray, I'm going to keep praying.
Me and Daniel are going together, baby.
That's right.
That's right.
That's one.
You know what?
I kind of lost my training thought.
I can't believe that.
It must be getting old.
I know, because you want to pray with Daniel, even if it's illegal.
That's why.
I agree.
I can't believe I lost it.
Those are two lines in the sand that are willing to fight government law if they say you can't have a gun and if they say you can't pray.
I think those are two.
All the other stuff with taxes, yeah, it's frustrating.
It is illegal.
I don't think it's enough to get the people going.
But Sam, I got to ask you this.
But again, if enough people stood against taxes, we could stop it.
If a million people every day sent a car to the IRS every single day, 365 days a year, only a million people, not even one-third of 1% of the nation, and we said, we're not paying you, IRS goons, we're not doing it.
And then we surrounded every IRS building and said, we're not leaving until you guys go away.
We would gain ground, but you can't do it without enough people's support.
It's a moral dilemma.
You cannot solve it.
That's right.
Unless the people demand peacefully their freedom.
And I think, you know, practically speaking, again, I will not advocate any illegal or violent actions.
Excellent question.
I got a question.
I got a question.
Sam, let me ask you this question.
But I got to get to where we are.
These guys are, listen, these guys are being martyred.
I got to ask you this question.
Sam, let's just say, now, I believe with you.
I know this, for instance, I have heard that the Delta teams are out there, et cetera.
Sam, let's see.
I'm going to ask you this question.
Let's just say that they feeds do go in there.
And if the Feds do go in there, they're going to kill everything.
No, they're not.
No, they won't because we're setting up.
Me and my friends and everybody else are setting up so that they won't.
There's a press release at LibertyRoundTable.com right now.
And the press release is...
We did it at Waco.
The press release.
They did it Waco.
They went and killed 86.
But it's different now.
It's different now, and I'm going to tell you why.
How so?
Because we have control of the media and they don't control the narrative anymore.
Thanks to Liberty News Radio and many others.
Thanks to political science.
Sam, we're the only ones getting it out, though.
Secondbody else, I know, but we have a huge following.
I mean, we just documented.
We got more following than this actor that wants to say the N-word.
Let me ask you this question.
Listen carefully.
This is important.
What happens if they do pull away?
This is part of the story.
They won't.
I'm trying to tell you how they can't.
But what if they do?
What if they go in there and they kill all these people out?
What's going to happen then, Sam?
Well, I'm just telling you, they can't.
Will the people revolt?
I don't know if you're familiar with what's called the Patriot Pacific Network, but it's an organization of multi-states in the West.
They call them Three Percenters of Idaho, Three Percenters of Oregon.
They are there now on scene with hundreds of people that are creating a protective perimeter around the refuge now, and they have delivered their peaceful resolution to the FBI and to the sheriff.
They're going to make sure this will not happen.
We are going to be the media armed to make that happen.
We have thousands of us working towards those peaceful ends right now.
Sam, what about this perimeter?
Tell me more about this perimeter.
How many were there perimeter?
I can't tell.
How much more out does the perimeter go of the revolution?
I got to get the crown.
You'll know.
All right.
There you go.
You've got to go up there to find out you won't know.
Information.
Now, I will say no violence, no illegal activities.
And I wouldn't go.
By the way, you said it stands for, James.
Would you have fought for the Confederacy, James?
Yes, I would have fought for the Confederacy because it would be more than me and 12 other guys.
It would have.
I would have proudly died for the Confederacy.
But to go up there with 12 other people and get thrown in jail and deprived my children of a father, I'm not going to do it.
And I do believe in the cause.
I just don't believe in it.
That's one big moral point you make, James, to where you've got to have enough people to demand liberty.
And if you don't, people don't believe the liberty.
That's a practical point.
No, that's a practical.
That's a moral practical point.
That's a practical point.
Well, it's both.
It's both.
If you're willing to die for a cause, you don't need a majority.
You want enough people to find the people who are going to be able to do it.
It would be suicide.
You need more people.
Would it be suicide?
Yes, it would be suicide.
You need to have the people.
And the more will in the matter, guys.
Sam, matter of fact, most of the people that have got the Congressional Medal of Honor in World War II, and you name your war, got it.
But there was more than 12 people backing them up.
But, Sam, you have Emmon Bundy on there.
You have to cut me off.
You had Emmon Bundy on your show for two hours.
You have a direct line in there.
How do you think this plays out?
Is government going to storm in?
Are they going to cut the power?
Are they going to freeze them out, stop supplies and food from going in there?
Will these people really stay in there for years as they pledge?
This has got to end at some point.
How does it end?
All right.
I don't know how it ends, and I won't pretend to know how it ends, but I know this.
If you listen to me, it'll end a lot better than if you listen to Eddie.
Yeah.
Secondly, I will say this.
If we don't listen to me, we will lose.
We will lose the moral high ground, the immoral high ground.
I don't care what happens, moral or immoral, as long as we win the high ground.
I care if it's moral every time.
Well, I know what I'm going to say.
That shows the fullest nature of your behavior and actions at this point.
So when you're fighting evil, Sam, Sam, when you're fighting, you don't do well by using evil to fight evil.
This is not a pretend force like Star Wars.
This is real life and death now.
This thing is an immoral war.
Any weapon you can get, pick your war.
Pick your evil.
A defensive war is a moral war.
All right, go.
Sam, anyone sanctions the big bookley, by the way.
All right, go.
You were going to make a final point.
All right.
The final point is this.
I don't know how it'll end, but I know this.
The whole point is, Sam lost the debate.
We'll do it next time.
There are thousands of us, while Eddie babbles at the mouth and doesn't have any guts to take action.
There are thousands of us that are literally taking action to make sure this does not turn into a Waco or a Ruby Ridge.
There are peaceful perimeters being set up.
There are lines of communications to honest moral media, and we are holding them accountable.
They're inviting people like professors who are constitutional scholars that are going to Oregon right now that are going to battle this out publicly and truly create accountability for the federal government.
So I don't know how long it'll take.
I do not believe it'll take years.
I do believe it will take weeks, maybe months.
I do believe that they will come out partially successful.
But because they've lost the moral high ground, they will set us back in many ways, unfortunately.
But they will certainly start a debate and a discussion, which if the people are moral enough, listen carefully, and educated enough, we can gain ground.
But that's what it depends on, and that's why I'm in the media, sir.
Best case scenario for the – I agree with everything you said just there, Sam.
If best case scenario for the people inside the compound, they go to jail?
No, because I think right now it's debatable.
They have marketing laws.
Well, look, that's a semantic thing.
You obviously can't just go into any government building and take it over.
I mean, you know, that's madness.
And they would say they're invited.
And if they can legally make that point, they may not go to jail.
If they can legally make that point, but I think that's going to be tough to make.
We can't.
I concur with you, James.
I'll tell you that's what the debate is about now.
You're right.
It's interesting.
It's interesting and multifaceted.
And there may be no one answer.
If I come out there, Sam, am I going to be able to go to broadcast with the one and only Sam Bushman?
I'm not there, sir.
I don't agree with their action.
I'm not there.
If you go out there, I won't be there, brother.
No, I'm going to say that.
We've got to take a break.
I know what you're saying.
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More emotions involved in this debate, Sam.
Darn right.
You need to get so emotional that you decide to be true to your colors and go, my brother.
Well, Sam, like I said, Sam, I want to come out.
And now you'd be all talking.
I'm the one and only Sam.
Look, I've already told everybody on the break that if you go up there, I will give you a line into my radio show.
I'll pay for your travel.
I'll pay for your food, and I'll even pay for you to be on the radio on my show for free.
And we'll go ahead and just talk about it, and you can give us a reality check on the ground there, buddy.
Even though we disagree with the action, and I'm going to be honest.
If I agreed with it, I would say if I agreed with it, I would say I agree with it.
But I can't in good conscience advocate anything that's going to get people put in jail or killed when so few people are willing to take a stand.
That's right.
And set back our movement and set back our movement big time because most people can't understand the realities of the situation.
Now, I was there, and if I believed the action was right, I would have joined them.
Now, you understand.
Let me make this very clear.
You understand that I know Amon Bundy well enough to where I was the media premier guy that was invited to be their main reporter from inside.
You know that, right?
Well, what if I refused?
Sam, let me just say this.
What if I did go out there and go in the compound and I made my intentions?
It's a refuge, not a compound, though, be clear.
Oh, excuse me, to the refuge, and I made my intentions clear to all you could go there as a journalist.
I went there as a press robber.
There are members of the mainstream.
We're mainstreamer on AM radio, but there are members of the establishment press that are inside there as reporters.
What about Eddie going as a journalist?
He could do that.
That way he didn't go as a journalist.
Let me make this very clear.
I would go back and go to the refuge as a reporter and document things today if I have money and time.
What are you talking about?
But the reason that I didn't stay is because then I would have been part of that takeover, which I am not willing to do.
Right.
Let me tell you this.
I'm going to tell you something else, my brother.
If you and I go out there as reporters and we report the truth.
You said you were going to go not as a reporter.
You were ready to back the takeover and bring your gun before.
No, no.
Now you're backing down to reporter status because you're too chicken.
I get it.
Now, if you want to go as a reporter, I'll go with you.
Sam, I'm going to go with Aaron and back you as a reporter.
I'm going down even further.
No, Sam, we're going to take it to a 20 second time out.
Sam, Sam, I just emailed you Scoop's number.
For some reason, Scoop can't call in, he says.
Let me just make this.
We're going to have to call him.
Let me make this one.
We just emailed you that number.
I can't read it over the air, but we've got to get Scoop on.
Sam, Ebrin, if you and I go out there, let's just say Frank's got to work.
He'll make a call.
Oh, let me just say one thing.
Let's just say me and Sam.
Keep going.
I'll work on this and listen.
Say we go out there as reporters and the feds do invade, and I think sooner or later they will.
And do you think they're going to allow me and Sam to get the truth out?
Well, that'll free up if they invade and get it.
I know they will.
I can get in for sure to that refuge, and I know I can get the truth out.
I'll tell you what, if we start getting too much of the truth out, if they put a bullet in those people out there, we'll be the bullet.
The first bullet will be in our head, Sam.
All right.
Scoop is saying he can't get in on any line to the studio.
I don't know exactly why that is, but if we can call him, I just emailed you his phone number.
Already bumped him to the third hour to his chagrin, so we'll try to get him on here.
He actually has a, well, I enjoy all of his reports, but he's got one germaine to what we're talking about here.
If we can get him on.
Hey, I don't have a vocabulary.
What does Germaine mean?
I'm just joking.
He's a basketball player.
Anyway, but this has been interesting, and it's been a good talk and a good debate, and we'll see what happens.
You know, certainly, I think, to say the least, our hearts and prayers are with the spirit of what they're trying to accomplish.
I just don't think it's been therapeutic.
It's an action that is going to be good in the long run, but maybe I'm wrong.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens to these people, though.
I like Donald Trump's take, though.
You got to get out of there.
You can't live there forever.
I mean, you can't just take over.
Now, they say it's a public building.
But it's not their house.
You can't just squat in a building.
It's not their house.
That's on.
It may not be the government's property, but it's not their property either.
Scoop's there and he's live, ladies and gentlemen.
Anyway.
Hi, Scoop.
They have to.
Scoop, take over.
Let's go with your commentary.
All right.
Good evening, political accessible family.
First, I'd like to say a happy belated birthday to one Robert Allen Krieger, guitarist for the doors.
And today is a special day.
Today is the birthday of one James Patrick Page, one of the greatest guitarists for one of the greatest rock bands of all.
There's no doubt we need to break on through to the other side, buddy, that's for sure.
Right.
That should give us a whole lot of love.
But anyways, what I want to talk about is last year I wrote how the political suspended was behind the media curve.
Brother, sister, you don't know half the story.
The political suspebal was conceived to address the so-called racial taboos and expose Jewish power and influence.
Thanks to our dedicated staff and some pure dumb luck, we got to jump on some significant and not so significant events.
We were one of the few media outlets to expose the Islamification of Europe.
Since then, we had the London, Madrid, and Paris attacks.
We read the George Lemon Men Verdict Live on the Air.
We had Matthew Carpent in and out of Ferguson before the media arrived and the matches were lit.
We were also, we beat most of the media out of the David Duke exclusive concerning this Steve Scale East Mass scandal.
We were also the second media outlet to interview reporter extraordinaire Sean Bergen and his honest and truthful comments concerning the lack of respect for cops in the ghetto.
We also had Tim Adams on, who could not confirm Obama's birth certificate in his home state of Hawaii.
We also broke the cause of the Amtrak crash in Philadelphia as the media refused to do so to cover Brandon Bostain because he likes the intimate company of other men.
Also, Europe surely covered Baltimore and I was the only person in the media to describe that.
How downtown Baltimore is an absolute secure fortress.
Meanwhile, West Baltimore is the wild west.
We also had the unfortunate task of being the first radio to pay tribute to radio legend and father conserved talk radio Bob Grant.
One of our greatest achievements was to report the assassination of two New York City cops live at the scene.
Before any other national media, this tragedy would gain international attention.
But not only are we ahead of the media, but sometimes we're ahead of time itself.
We predicted Dan Wilson would not be charged.
We predicted that the media would come after us and the Confederate flag after the Dylan Roof shootings.
We also said there's a war on cops many moons before the media either saw what was going on in the streets or decided to actually report it.
Now, we really beat the media this past Saturday in Ben, Oregon, with Sam Bushman, who's out there for peaceful organized protests concerning the federal government overstepping their authority when sentencing people for troll acts.
Sam has done a wonderful job for the past hour and change describing what has happened with Eamon Bundy and Pete Santelli and the people back over to Oregon.
But with this radio show, with absolutely no budget whatsoever, Sam and James beat out the media gala hammers on Fox, Comcast NBC, Viacom slash CBS, and CNN Time Warner.
Folks, we do, again, we do this on a shoestring budget.
Now imagine if we had like, say, one-tenth of the budget of the O'Reilly factor.
James, Sam, Eddie, back to you.
You know, I got a quick question for Scoop, though.
Is he ready to go to Oregon with Eddie?
Is he staying back with you and me, James?
Scoop, where do you stand on it?
I'm holding back because, personally, I don't think I don't have a dog in the fight.
It's, I mean.
Is Keith going?
I can tell you that.
All right.
So 20% pretends they'll go.
All right.
I got to say this.
I'm glad you brought up all that, Scoop, because here we are again.
This network, you know, we're like ravening wolves.
We're out there.
We're scrappy.
We're fighting.
We're out there trying to tell the truth about controversial, so-called controversial matter.
And we're out here scooping the news on some things.
Sam, last week, all credit goes to Sam.
We just happened to be on the air at the right time.
Sam called in and made it happen.
We're a family of us together, though.
Come on now.
Well, I know that, but this is your network, Sam, and you have us on.
And, you know, sometimes there's areas of disagreement, but you believe in the freedom of speech, and you've supported us and you've backed us and given us the ability to reach a mass audience and in some times really make national news.
So last week when you called in, Sam, you know, we beat everybody to the punch.
And then, you know, going back, Scoop mentioned the Tim Adams thing where, you know, that made international news, the chief elections clerk in Honolulu, Hawaii, comes on this network to break the news that he was there and he knows Obama didn't have a birth certificate.
Now, that ain't getting anywhere, but he let that be known to the world through this network.
And from there, he was on, he received international coverage.
Does it ever surprise you, Sam, that this network has been able to do so much with so little?
And as Scoop said, if we remain scrappy and hungry and go out there and had a bigger budget, you know, what this network would be able to do.
And this is why, James, this is why I say that it does not take the efforts of, say, an action like Ammon Bundy to win.
We've seen more causes, more discussion, more education, more action in the last, I've been in radio for 20 plus years.
We've seen more in the last five than we saw in the first 15.
We're making tremendous progress, and I can point to you case after case, example after example, to make that point.
We're doing a great job.
Is it enough yet?
Well, I'll leave that up to God, but I'll just do all that I can.
And so I'm saying, I don't agree with the idea that we're not getting anywhere without an action like that.
I don't think so.
I think the action like that sets us back.
And I submit that we're getting somewhere on a shoestring budget.
We're taking on the mainstream press like never before.
He who owns the media makes the rules, and we're starting to make the rules.
And then the media taking center stage is what we're doing.
I should say also, and we are.
We are.
And Sam, this somehow got left out with all the fun we've been having tonight.
And it's been a serious discussion, obviously.
But a picture of Sam Bushman and his friend and co-host Kurt Crosby made hundreds of newspapers.
It was the picture of the rally shown the marchers.
And then there was Sam and Kurt front and center.
It's just amazing what Sam's built here.
And we're just so thankful and honored to be a part of it.
God bless you, Sam.
Scoop, thanks for calling in tonight and bringing it to a head.
Eddie, we'll see you in Oregon.
Good night, everybody.
And I'm grateful that I had a chance to play in it.
We all have our chances of being kind of the lead guy at times, but I'm sticking with the family, and we still include Eddie.