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Oct. 24, 2015 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide, as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
We've been doing these anniversary shows for the last several years.
We didn't do it originally until a few years into our run.
And after a few years, we started doing it every year.
This has been one of the most enjoyable for me.
I don't know why, but it really has.
Now, Keith Alexander, I had lunch with Keith a couple of days ago, and he let it be known to me that he was going to be out of town.
He's in Mississippi tonight, and that I know the kind of cell phone Keith has.
He knows the kind of cell phone he has.
And that reception may be a problem.
Well, this was the segment that Keith was to call in.
And I said, we're going to try to call you at 8 o'clock Central, the top of the third hour.
And I got a cold tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
Excuse me.
If we get you, we get you.
If not, you can share your favorite moments and all that good stuff.
Everything we're doing tonight, Keith will do next week because we're still not able to raise him.
And he needed to call in.
And so he wanted to be a part of it.
He told me if we weren't able to connect to send his regards to the audience and pass along his love for you.
And everybody knows Keith is here every week.
He is a stalwart, if there ever was one.
And so next week, when we get back to the regular fair, we will give Keith a little bit of time to talk about his favorite memories and moments and how he came to know the show and came to be a co-host.
Everything we're doing with everyone else, we'll do with Keith next week.
But we're getting a lot of emails tonight.
How about this one, Eddie?
From your friend Kim in Missouri.
Now, you know Kim?
Know Kim all too well.
Listening to the show, and I just said, oh, good, Eddie's on.
Eddie makes the show so fun, James.
He's like that relative you want to talk to at the family reunion.
Happy anniversary, Kim.
Did you ever think you'd have fans, Eddie?
Never did think I'd have fans like that.
Thank you so much, Kim.
You're just too kind.
I certainly appreciate that.
I really do.
People like you make it all worth it.
They certainly do.
How about this?
Got this message in from Bill.
James, congrats on number 11.
God bless you and yours this evening.
I'm listening live right now in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Wow.
Everywhere.
Everywhere, our listeners.
This is a great guy.
This is another one of the, I actually know this guy.
He was at our 10-year anniversary.
I actually saw him up in Washington not long ago.
I remember him all too well.
Great friend of the show.
Contributes every quarter.
And we have a lot of people like that.
And then, you know, we played that clip earlier.
It's roots in Kentucky, too.
That's right.
He sure does, not far from where you were born.
We played that clip earlier tonight from Brian in Arkansas.
Brian has written in tonight.
Congrats, my friend, for 11 years.
How about this?
The waves of liberalism breaks upon the rock of paleo conservatism.
That rock brother is the political cesspool.
Wow.
How about that?
Only Brian is a wordsmith, you know, using the hunting analogy to compare us versus Limbaugh and others.
Well, I'll tell you, Brian and Bill, who wrote in from Puerto Rico, were both at that 10-year anniversary.
There was a zenith to that 10-year anniversary.
And that was when we all came together towards the end of that show last year, and we sang a song.
I'd like to play that clip for you now.
Everybody needs to be standing up for this.
This is the national anthem, and we don't sit for a national anthem.
Where's Eddie?
Eddie the Bombardier Miller, where are you?
Can you hold the flag?
Can you get in the center of the room, please?
All right, so what I want is I want Maestro to put it in the key we can handle.
We're going to start singing.
We're going to sing the first verse, the chorus, second verse, war chorus.
Just try to follow the, just follow along if you can.
Hey, give us a hands up if you can, Maestro.
When you're ready for us to start singing it, play it as loud as you can.
Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton.
Old times there are not forgotten.
Look away!
Look away!
I wish I was in Dixie.
Hooray, hooray.
In Dixie land, I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie.
Away, away, away down south in Dixie.
Southern men, the thunders mutter.
Northern flags and south winds flutter.
To arms, two arms, two arms in Dixie.
Send them back your fierce defiance.
Stamp upon the cursed alliance.
To arms, to arms, to arms in Dixie.
Advance the flag of Dixie.
Hooray, hooray.
For Dixie's land, we take our stand to live and die for Dixie.
Two arms, two arms, and conquer peace for Dixie.
Two arms, two arms, and conquer peace for Dixie.
Fear no danger, shun no labor.
Lift up rival flag and savor.
Two arms, two arms, two arms in Dixie.
Shoulder pressing close to shoulder.
Let the odds make each our folder.
Two arms, two arms, two arms in Dixie.
And fence the flag of Dixie.
Hooray, hooray.
For Dixie's land, let's take our stand to live and die for Dixie.
Two arms, two arms, and conquer peace for Dixie.
Two arms, two arms, and conquer peace for Dixie.
Swear upon your country's altar never to submit or falter.
Two arms, two arms, two arms in Dixie.
Till the spoilers are defeated.
Till the Lord's work is completed.
Two arms, two arms, two arms in Dixie.
And beneath the flag of Dixie.
Hooray, hooray.
For Dixie's land, we'll take our stand, live and die to Dixie.
Two arms, two arms, and conquer peace for Dixie.
We'll go ahead and clip that off right there.
There's a little tail end to that that we were going to play, but I want to get to Matt the Copperhead, who has called in.
Matt, you're part of this journey as well.
Thank you for being part of the anniversary show last year and then tonight.
We only have seconds before the break, but I had to work you in, and I know Eddie wanted to hear from you too.
How are you doing tonight, Copperhead?
I'm great, James Danetti.
Happy 11th year to the Political Festival family.
11 years.
You know what?
Matt, it's been people like you.
We've met along the way.
We've become brothers.
This made the ride worth every bit of the sacrifice you've ever made.
Thank you, Eddie.
That means a lot, you know, from you guys.
And it's so good to be back on the political festival and the home of the true voice of our people.
Well, I'll tell you what, we've said it to the point of exhaustion, but to the extent we are the voice of anything, it's to the extent that our audience leaves us in its good graces.
And Cobberhead, you have been as generous as anybody ever has.
Financially and otherwise, to this program, and we appreciate it.
And as we celebrate, continue to celebrate with the remaining couple of segments we have this evening.
This is a celebration of you as well.
And I'm glad we got to talk even for a few seconds this evening.
Thank you for calling in, and thank you for all you do.
And we look forward to seeing you again soon.
Matt the Cobberhead, everybody.
Or Meth, and Meth one of the kind.
We'll be back with more.
Stay tuned.
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And now back to tonight's show.
You hear his voice in every commercial break, leading us in and out of the breaks after each segment.
Art Frith, our old producer and friend and engineer, he really taught us how to be better at what we do.
He came on early on in our run.
He too couldn't be here live this evening.
Keith Alexander is, of course, having cell phone difficulties.
We're going to catch up with Keith next week and let him chime in on all of this.
But Art, I talked to Art earlier this week.
He wanted to be part of it, but he's working and traveling and couldn't call in.
But he said, will you do me a favor?
Will you pull the interview that I gave during the ninth year anniversary show, which was year before last, and play that tonight?
Because everything I want to say tonight, I said that in that show.
So I told Art I would.
And here's Art so he can get a little time on the show, Art Frith.
Art Frith, my friend, welcome back.
How are you, buddy?
Not bad, but I wish you'd keep playing the intro because that's part of the show.
It's great.
You know, that announcer does a damn fine job for us, doesn't he?
The announcer, of course.
He had a chance putting me on the show, but, you know, what the heck?
I knew you when you still had hair.
That's true.
That's true.
Art actually has been around so long since about 2005.
He knew me when I still had hair.
All of the announcements, all the intros, outros, bumps, those are all from Art.
And, you know, Art really added the professionalism to this show.
We try to remain professional to the best we can without Art being our overlord there in the studio.
But when we were at 1380, the old studio in Millington, it was us on one side of the glass, Art on the other.
And he was kind of the whipcracker.
He was the slave driver.
He made us kind of get in line.
And he wasn't always so easy on yours truly.
Art, you, more than any other, seemed to relish in the opportunity to give me a good hazing back in the early days, did you not?
I think your first words were, who in the hell was that guy?
Well, it was rough going from time to time, but when you left WLRM, there was such a void in the production of the show that we actually paid you with our non-existent budget to come back.
And you trained me on the board to the best you could.
You were actually, you know, Art Frith interviewed, we're basking in the glow of the Gary Sinise interview from last week, but Art Frith interviewed him years ago.
And he interviewed many people like Wolfman Jack and Paul Revere from Paul Revere and the Raiders and on and on and on and on.
Art took pride in the interview we did last week, Eddie.
You were part of it with Gary Sinise.
That was all part of the fine training we received from the Art Frith School of Broadcasting, correct?
Yeah, right.
Eddie, I know you want to say hello to the chief.
You know, we take pride in the fact that many of our staff, the majority of our staff, not counting myself and Bill Rowland, but the majority of our staff, Keith Alexander, the majority of our staff has served in the armed forces, you and Art and Pete Stanton and Winston.
I know you'd like to say hello to you.
The chief, Art Frith.
Well, hello there, Chief.
It's been a long time, fella.
Hey, Eddie.
You know, I remember back in the early days, Art, we were working, and one of my favorite things he would do, talking about how he used to hate his baby boy when he would leave the studio at night.
You know, I don't know if you remember or not, but he was notorious for getting speeding tickets.
He got the Millington Police Department.
He funds their party every year for Christmas.
You would put out an announcement to the Millington Police.
Say, James Edwards leaving the studio now.
You give this route to get your ticket quota.
It'd be a surefire ticket tonight because baby boy be heading that way, I tell you.
But yeah, you know, Art, I probably never told you this, but you know, I joined the Marines before I got drafted in the Army, and I passed all the tests with flying colors for getting Marines, a physical test, a mental test, real high on the achievement test.
And I was getting ready to sign into the Marines, Art, and then at the last minute they stopped me.
They wouldn't let me in.
You know, they found out my parents were married.
They saw too many Gilmore Pyle Reruns.
You're too smart for the Marines.
He said you're too smart for the Marines, Eddie.
That's the news department of the Navy.
Anyway, Art, listen, in all seriousness, we always have a good time with you, and we've always had, I think you were the one who first added.
Oh, by the way, my wife is in the studio tonight, and she wants to say hello to you.
Hello, Art.
Hi, Danny.
Well, everybody loves the Chief.
Everybody wants to know, I knew these two when James was still passing notes to Danny in the studio, and I couldn't keep his mind on this show.
Hey, it's been a long time.
I tell you, nine years, a lot has changed.
I certainly wasn't married nine years ago when it all started.
And as you said, I was passing notes to Danny in the studio.
But listen.
Your girlfriends in South Carolina.
Oh, we.
God knows wherever else.
Well, listen, we need to talk quickly because we only have a minute or two remaining with you.
You stumbled me with that last one, but hey, favorite guest, favorite behind-the-scenes memory.
I mean, there's so much.
I remember you on one Halloween show.
You came to the studio dressed in Star Wars regalia.
I mean, there's been so much that people will never know about this show.
I came into the studio for one Halloween show, and Art was decked out like Spock or somebody.
But, okay, Art, favorite guest behind-the-scenes recorder.
You tell us.
What, besides the snakes, I threw in the studio with you?
Let's see.
General Hal Moore's interview, of course.
Yes.
Jess and Bill.
And Jess's live remote.
We did a live remote broadcast from Shiloh Battleground.
That's right.
Yes, absolutely.
Who could forget 2007?
I can never forget the Exorcist.
That is all in the night book.
Winston was talking about that earlier tonight.
I know you always harken back to the LT as you refer to him, Godfrey Dulias of the Luftwaffe.
And probably the best one that was technically challenging.
Eddie will remember this, Colonel Bog Reitz.
Yeah, that Bogue Reitz one.
I think y'all were doing that via ham radio, and y'all were sending Morse code to one another to get that interview done.
Eddie was having flashbacks to Vietnam.
Every time he talked with him, he had to say over.
I remember that show.
It's all in the archives.
Well, Art, listen.
Keep running.
Talk to you later.
Hey, listen, it doesn't happen often enough, but the legacy that you've played and the fingerprints you've left from this show will last forevermore.
We thank for the role you continue to play from afar in retirement.
And God bless you, brother.
Oh, you too.
Take care, John.
Art wanted to be on tonight live, but he asked that I play that.
And it really still, that was from the show year before last on the ninth year anniversary.
This is now the 11th, but it still really holds true.
And art still plays a role in this show.
I still talk to Art just about every month, if not every other week.
We exchange emails or something.
And, you know, the first few months we were on the air before Art was hired as the engineer and producer at WLRM in Memphis, it was a lot of monkey shines.
And then when Art got hired, even though we were paying for the airtime, he said, listen, if you're going to do radio, you're going to do radio right.
He taught us a lot.
He had a dry sense of humor, but he was a huge asset to the show, and we still love art to this day.
But those early years when we were under Art's tutelage, still bearing dividends.
You know, he did, and he still does, have the dry sense of humor you've ever seen.
As long as I've known him, sometimes even I can't tell if he's joking.
But, you know, he was the master.
By the way, you know, Winston gave him the name of the board.
The Lord of the Board.
Winston gave everybody the nickname.
Winston named me the Bombardier.
But you're so right.
I can see it just like yesterday.
He sat on the other side of the glass.
We weren't allowed to go over there because that's where all the high-tech equipment was.
And Art wouldn't let us in there.
He ran the whole show.
He taught us so much.
At the studio.
Yeah, he was on the other side of the glass.
He had the board.
He brought on the callers, brought on the guests.
We were just there to talk.
And he could cut off our mics if he wanted to.
And sometimes he did.
And the radio station was held together, literally, almost with bailing wire scotch tape.
And how Art kept it going, I'll never know.
How about the dude?
The How Moore interview, another one that should have been the top 25.
Our interview with How More.
Mel Gibson played How More in the movie We Were Soldiers.
We got to take a break.
We'll be back with Sam Bushman.
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All right, everybody.
Well, we've got, you're going to hear from two more people tonight.
And the one coming up now is quite arguably the most important person in the entire political cesspool family.
Without this guy, you know, we could say this about a lot of people.
But without this guy, there's really no political cesspool.
And it's not me, Eddie.
Who is it?
It is the one and only Sam Bushman.
Matter of fact, Sam probably doesn't know this.
I listen to the Liberty Roundtable all the time.
I've thought about calling in a few times.
But Sam is the pros pro.
You know, he knows more about radio.
He's forgotten more about radio.
Maybe it sounds like a cliché, but it's true.
He's forgotten more about radio than me and James ever know.
He's brilliant.
I don't use the word genius very often around people, but Sam really is a true genius.
You have to be around him to see what he can do technically.
Stuff that you think only an engineer could do.
Evidently, he is a self-taught engineer, but I can't say anything that he doesn't already know about.
I can mention something on the radio, and within 15 seconds, Sam brings back evidence proving that I'm either right or wrong.
And he's a great guy.
Listen, and Sam is one of the few people I know of that's probably more generous than James.
James is the most forgiving, generous human I've ever seen.
Sam, even more so than that.
I've been angry at people before.
I'm not going to mention who it was, wanting to get rid of them, wanting to attack people, wanting to go off the deep end.
You people may be well acquainted with my temper, but Sam, even more so than James, is more Christian, more forgiving, he has more wisdom.
I'm older than them, but I've learned so much.
I feel like I'm so much wiser for listening to Sam's counsel.
You know, looking back now when I want to do certain things that were, it looks like, you know, rash now, the actions I want to take.
Sam was the wiser of the group.
I just can't say enough.
And he is so generous, and he never worries about anything.
He's so sound and secure in his religion, his Christianity.
I just love him to death.
There's nobody more loving and warm than Sam.
And we've been with him on this For most than anybody ever would.
I gotta just add right here, though.
I gotta stop these guys.
Now, listen, I'm telling you right now, Kurt Crosby has as many children as James does in radio.
Well, hang on.
I'm trying to think about what Kurt has 11 children.
Oh, so with 11 years in radio indeed, well, I got to ask you this.
A lot of those years have been spent now on your network, Sam.
The network, which such a great infrastructure.
I was a guest on your show earlier this week, and I shared with the audience, you know, when I was traveling to and from Washington.
Seven of those 11 years on Liberty News Radio.
Seven out of those 11 years.
And I listened to the Liberty News Radio 24-7 content.
I was driving to and from Washington a couple of weeks ago and listened to it.
Just such great content around the clock.
But seven out of those 11 years, we have been with you.
And that all had to start with the phone call.
Sam, when you made the decision, I think the audience wants to know, when you made the decision to reach out to us and bring us aboard Liberty News Radio Network, under what illicit substances were you on?
All right, first off, I'm a clean-living Mormon.
I don't even drink alcohol, ladies and gentlemen.
You got that right.
So I'm as straight a shooter as they get.
Now, once in a while, I'll bust out some Mountain Dew and stuff like that.
But other than that, hey, I don't even drink coffee or tea or any kind of drugs of any kind.
I'm as sober as they get.
And I'll tell you, I was on Republic Broadcasting, and there was a lot of shows on there as well.
And I'm back on Republic Broadcasting now.
I'm friends with John Statmiller and the rest.
However, when I started my own network, I looked at all the different shows.
And I looked at them and I said, you know what?
Shows are sound and solid.
And I didn't really want to take any shows from Republic.
That was not my goal in any way.
But I will just say it flat out on the air.
There were friends.
And we just stuck with friends.
And I'm just going to leave it at that and say, you know what, we took an opportunity to let our friends make a decision of where they wanted to be.
Friends and family stuck with one another.
And it's been that way ever since.
And that's kind of how it started.
And that's how it will continue is that, you know what, we worked with our friends.
And believe it or not, there was only one show that came with me.
And that was the political cesspool.
And it had to do with friendships.
Well, I'll tell you, so much of what we've accomplished.
We're talking about the top 25.
80-90% of the stuff on that list has been accomplished.
And speaking of being an engineer and the technical guy, I was able to engineer that thing live last year in Memphis.
And what a blessing that was, James.
That was cool to be part of and to watch.
On one hand, I was part of it when I got to shake people's hands and become friends with people and everything else.
On the other hand, I was able to be the engineer and kind of be the fly on the wall and watch the proceedings as kind of the radio guy in the background.
And it was fun to be part of.
It was fun.
It was amazing.
It was amazing what you were able to do with that 10-year show because even the hotel staff didn't have the know-how to put together what you did.
And that is, you made it to where the hotel's speaker system was broadcasting the show so the audience could hear it in the ballroom.
You did things that weren't really able to be done.
You found a way to do them.
Eddie.
I was going to say same thing.
James kind of stole my son there, but you did things, Sam.
I still hadn't been able to figure out what you did.
Not that I'm an engineer, but I was just in awe of what you did.
And Sam, I listened to your shows.
And this might be kind of a rabbit trail, but I'm going to mention this.
Sam does things that the political suspicion doesn't do, and no other broadcast media does.
Sam actually goes out in the community and organizes things like, you know, like the Constitutional Sheriffs and Police Officers Organization.
He's always into something like that, the dollar a day thing.
Yeah, buddy.
Guess who's coming to Orem, Utah, right, right, in a couple of weeks?
It's going to be Larry Nichols.
You're going to dig that.
You ought to fly in, Eddie.
I would love to see that.
The bombadier ought to just get on an airplane.
I know that would be crazy to watch him go through the TSA.
Did you know like I went through the TSA live one time?
I was on the radio live and I went through the TSA.
Did you know that?
Oh, no, kidding.
I swear I did, buddy.
Well, Sam, one of my favorite—you came up with this idea the other day on the radio when you were critiquing Donald Trump's run for the presidency.
You said they should ditch the mainstream media.
They should totally turn their money.
What if all 15 candidates that claim they're real conservatives just told the mainstream press, we're not even going to talk to you people anymore?
Don't spend money.
Don't spend money with them.
We're just simply going to ignore you.
We're going to do a blackout of the media.
It'll be phenomenal to watch.
And the new mainstream or the old mainstream press would fall by the wayside.
The new mainstream press would be here.
It'd be an interesting dynamic, to say the least, but they don't have any guts and they're not for real.
And that's the proof in the pudding.
By the way, speaking of Art Frith and Wolfman Jack, you know what?
I grew up.
I cut my teeth in radio listening to Wolfman Jack.
He was in Mexico, believe it or not, on a 100,000-watt radio station at night, howling at the moon and broadcasting live all over the western United States.
That's how I cut my teeth in radio, guys.
100, 70s.
You stare him on the moon at 100,000 watts.
Sam, I think we had Wolfman calling in.
I think Wolfman, my man's on the phone right now.
He's on the phone right now.
They're just making fun of me because I do voices, but I'm telling you right now, I'm working on my Bombardier voice is what I'm doing.
Bring him on.
Hey, bring the Wolfman on a minute.
I'm going to work on the Bombardier voice is what I'm doing.
Get the Wolfman in the middle.
Can you imagine if I did the Bombardier voice?
Now, I want to, before the end of this segment, because I know you guys are going to boot me off and go to better Green Earth Pastors and stuff.
But here's the deal.
There's a couple of things that I want to kind of mention from the political cesspool from my perspective.
And most of the time, I'm not on the air.
I engineer the show, and I'm the owner of the network.
And, you know, it's kind of crazy that I actually engineer the show because I own the network, but I do it because I like the programming and I'm friends with the hosts.
And I do it because I want to be part of the show.
I want to listen to it.
I believe the commentary and the input that they have is incredibly insightful and valuable.
I think they've got an incredible point to make about America and about who we are and about reclaiming our belief systems and sticking with what we believe in and who we are, really making our heritage front and center, understanding our history from a correct point of view, not a perverted, manipulated point of view.
I mean, it goes on and on.
And so I do this show not because I have to, but because I choose to.
And so that's kind of my endorsement of the political cesspool at James Edwards, the Bombardier, Keith, and the crew.
But I want to say this, though.
You mentioned one thing that I don't think most of the different people who have joined to celebrate the 11th anniversary have focused on.
One thing you said, James, is what do you see for the future of the cesspool?
And I want to kind of speak to that really quick.
And that is this.
I think that you ought to have, instead of 10-year anniversaries, I think you ought to have it every year, a political cesspool summit, so to speak.
And instead of going to Memphis every time, what you would do is every year go to a different historical city of the South and celebrate the rich history relating to that location.
And you could go to Kentucky.
You could go to Mississippi.
You could go to Georgia.
You could go to Carolina.
You could go to Virginia.
You could go to all these different places and really break down the history of what those cities represent, what they stood for, what their history was.
It would just be a tremendous broadcast, a tremendous live event annually where Cesspool fans and friends and family could get together and really celebrate and really dig in.
You know, you guys have your month to celebrate Southern history or Southern History Month, et cetera.
Just imagine if you could literally live broadcast from the cities and talk about the different elements of what occurred there and how and what and who and when.
That's my hope for the future.
James?
Wherever we go, Sam, we go with you, brother.
We don't exist without you.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you on behalf of our entire audience for standing in our corner.
I'm grateful to be part of the Cesspool, and I'm just telling you, I'm working on my Eddie the Bombardier impersonation.
We love you, Sam.
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To get on the show, call us on James's Dime at 1-866-986-6397.
We're winding down tonight's celebration of 11 years on the radio.
Year 11 will start next week, and we're going to have a great show in store for you on Halloween night, no less.
Saturday, October 31st, our next show.
You've heard from a lot of people tonight who have made the political cesspool what it is over these last 11 years.
Some of them, though, you didn't hear from.
People like my original co-host, Austin Farley, Jess Bonds, who was with us for the first three or four years, great guy, and Jeff Melton.
Those people have played a role in the show, and they've come and gone, as sometimes happens in life.
But one of the most important figures certainly is that of Bill Rowland.
And I went into the archives, ladies and gentlemen, and I pulled for you the very last commentary that Bill Rowland ever gave on this show.
And it just so happened to be on the anniversary show back in 2012.
That was October of 12.
Right after that, his health took a sharp decline, and we didn't know it at the time, but that was the last time he would ever appear.
I'd like to play that clip for you now.
Bill Rowland's contributions to this show, not just as co-host, which you've come to know him, but in the early years, cannot be overstated.
You've heard from Art Frith already tonight, Sonny Landham, Sam Bushman, now Bill Rowland, who is a regular co-host.
But before he was a co-host, his impact on this show was profound.
In fact, I believe I met Bill, perhaps for the first time, at that kickoff party at the Pig and Whistle Barbecue Restaurant back in December of 2004.
And he started out as a regular guest on the show, just as in his capacity as a board member for the council.
But Bill has certainly, since then, obviously become a regular co-host and always fills in for me when I have to be out as the lead host.
But two things Bill has done that, again, to use the word cannot be overstated.
Bill, when we first got our big shot of publicity in the spring of 2006, the Southern Poverty Law Center had put us on the hate watch list, and it was the front page story in Memphis above the fold of the commercial appeal.
A local radio show makes hate watch list.
The local news and television affiliates were calling my cell phone wanting an interview, and I went to you for counsel, and I always do.
Anytime a big story comes up, anytime I need guidance, Bill Rowland is the man I call.
I'm not blowing smoke at him.
This is the truth.
Obviously, as you see so many times, the knee-jerk reaction is to call the press back and say, oh, no, We're not racist here.
Believe me, I got all these black friends.
Just trust me.
I got a lot of black friends.
And at the time, you know, you don't know what it's like until you're put through it.
And I remember it being a white-knuckle experience.
And I said, Bill, you know, I just need to call these people and just tell them what they want to hear to get off my back.
And Bill, you said, if you do that, the show's over.
And here's what you need to say.
And what you told me to say is what I said, and it was the right thing to do.
And I mocked it, and I took it in stride.
And that was a fork in the road for the show.
And if we'd have taken the wrong route, this show would have been done about a year and a half, two years into its run.
Now here we are eight years later.
Do you remember that?
I do.
I do.
And that was counsel that had come to me from different people who had long suffered the same sort of abuse and smears and outright lies that had come from the left.
And what you learn from that is that these people on the left, these liberals, they're just loudmouthed cowards.
And once you expose the fact that they're really toothless, then they'll back away from you.
It's like a toothless dog who has a loud bark and fierce eyes, but you get close enough to him and you stare him down, he's going to back away.
And that's what we've tried to, I think, express on this show, is that there is no future for cowards and compromisers, that they all become part of the same group.
They all get lumped in.
And we have said over and over to people who have, who supposedly conservatives, who have also denounced us and said, oh, you think it's us now?
It's your turn next.
And we've been proven right in every case.
If you think you can escape the aggressive hatred of the left, you're deluding yourself.
They simply move it up a notch every time until they find a new enemy.
You know, it started with us, and now, as far as the Southern Poverty Law Center goes, it's the Family Research Council.
You know, these Christian people who did everything to keep a spotless reputation, and yet they fall under the witchcraft and the hexes of the Southern Poverty and Law Center.
What's more is now our credibility stands, but the Southern Poverty and Law Center is in a slide, a gradual slide into disrepute.
And I think we're going to see the day when they start getting sued and they start getting hammered, and then we'll be sort of standing on top of the hill watching them getting kicked around.
And let's see how they react.
Okay.
So, by the way, I'll say after that buildup, I feel like I'm going to be wearing a tiara.
No, Bill, it's the truth.
Folks, you'll never know.
You know, all the credit this show gets, and perhaps I get as one of the creators of this show and its founding host, a lot of it should really be redirected to Bill.
And it's not just for that.
I mean, Bill gave me sound advice.
I was going to take the typical knee-jerk apologetic route.
I will be honest with you.
It was my first time at this.
I was 25 years old.
I didn't know better.
And I wasn't just repeating what Bill told me to say.
Bill had enough sound mind to give me good advice.
And once I heard what he was saying, I realized how good of advice it was.
And I took it because it was good advice, not just because it was Bill Rowland saying it, but because it was good advice.
And that was a moment of truth.
We were tempered in fire.
And one of the things I still remember from that story on the television affiliates and in the newspaper was that they quoted me directly as saying I was elated, ecstatic, I believe was the word, to be named to the Southern Poverty Law Center's hate watch list.
You haven't arrived in the conservative movement until you've been named there.
And that's, you know, six years after that, here we are, still one of their favorite whipping boys, but we have certainly made a name for ourselves.
You know, you look back now in our portfolio of work from 2004 to 2012, it's jaw-dropping, it's staggering.
But another thing, they were coming after the Confederate parks.
And I said, Bill, you know, the SPLC, the SPLC, the SCV, the Sons of Confederate Veterans isn't going to do anything about this.
Do you think we can do something about this?
And you'll remember in 2005, this was actually even in advance of the SPLC story and all the news coverage that we just mentioned.
This was 2005.
We really weren't tested as a radio program at that time.
We'd been on the air about a year.
We had a successful kickoff.
We knew we had a lot of listeners, but we didn't know really if we had the muscle to move the needle on an issue.
And the vandals and visigoths of multiculturalism came in.
They wanted to eradicate the three Confederate parks in Memphis, including Nathan Medford Forest Park, which, of course, is where the general is buried.
And no one stood against it.
We stood against it.
Because of the political cesspool, the pro-Confederate side got equal coverage in the news.
And Bill guided that whole thing.
He said, you don't do a demonstration, you do a vigil.
Bill, you shepherded the entire counter-resistance and countermeasures to our side of the issue.
And the political cesspool really became very famous here in town as a result of the stands we took in defense of the Confederate parks.
And because of us and because of your leadership on that issue, the Confederate parks remain here.
And I know you'll remember that as well.
I do.
And actually, it was one of the most exciting times of my life because I did have experience with that kind of thing.
I developed experience through the Council of Conservative Citizens and through the Sons of Confederate Veterans to some degree.
And so I did have some experience with that.
I think the jewel in the crown for me, if I do get a crown in heaven, it's the fact that the planned demonstration by Al Sharpton turned out to be a complete fiasco.
We rained on his parade, literally.
And that was the first time in his career that he'd ever canceled a march or actually completely failed in his mission to do something.
And I have to say that it was so embarrassing that even the black leadership in Memphis turned on him, and he hasn't been back here since.
So, you know, it shows that with effort, with faith, and with just a little courage, you can accomplish great things.
Because, folks, listen, we don't have any clout here.
We were individuals who stood up and said, this shall not pass.
And we were determined to make an effort.
And, of course, here we were, our little group in Confederate Park surrounded by SWAT teams and sheriff's deputies.
I remember that.
Yeah, they sent out the SWAT team.
And, you know, we're like, all of this for us.
You know, I mean, it was really kind of astonishing.
You know, we thought we'd be standing out there with some Confederate flags and whatnot.
But the point is that no effort is wasted when you're fighting for the right thing.
No effort is wasted.
And that's what we've tried to do is keep our effort going, keep our wheels rolling, because we're rolling in the right direction.
Well, Bill, thanks so much to you, man.
It can't be understated, the role you played in this.
Now it continues as a regular co-host.
But God bless you, buddy, and thanks so much.
We didn't know it at the time.
That was the last time Bill Rowland would ever speak on this radio program just a couple of months after that.
And what a great segment that he delivered, as he always did in his capacity as a co-host of this show.
A couple of months later, he was called home by the Lord.
That was the last time Bill was ever on the show.
That was from October 2012.
But thanks to the broadcast archives and thanks to the infrastructure that Sam Bushman has built here, Bill's legacy carries on.
You can catch his wisdom and learn from his wisdom in the broadcast archives any day you want.
Eddie, final word to you.
It's been a great anniversary show.
Thank you for being here with me the entire time.
You're very welcome.
My wild horses couldn't have kept me away.
James, if I had to say if there was one defining moment, one battle, one victory won that defined, kept the cesspool on the air and made it what it is today, I would say it was when you and Bill, the political cesspool, went down there and faced Al Sharperton.
I would say if I had to say of all the things that happened, that was a defining moment.
It's been a wild ride.
Wonderfully turbulent.
11 years.
What's the next year going to hold in store for us?
We'll find out together.
God bless you, everybody.
On behalf of my entire staff and crew, I'm James Edwards.
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