Sept. 7, 2013 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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We did a best of Bill Rowland CD because Bill had just passed away and we wanted the incentive for that fundraising drive, which a significant percentage of those proceeds went back to Bill's family, but we wanted it to be something to memorialize and commemorate Bill's work on the show.
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I was like, well, you know, it's going to be hard to do that because every show you're on is so good, but okay.
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I was going through the archives earlier this week, and I said, okay, well, I'll go in there and just get a nice representative sampling for, because that's the incentive for this quarter's fundraising drive, the best of James Edwards.
Now, you're talking over a thousand shows over a nine-year career in talk radio, but I figured, okay, well, you know, I'll go through and just get a representative sampling.
You know, I'll pick a few.
A few came to mind, and I went through.
I started at about 8 o'clock one night, a couple of days ago, and ended up going to bed at 4 in the morning.
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Now, obviously, I didn't listen to every show.
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But I did go through the description of every show we've done since 2004.
And I listened a few times.
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And I'm going to tell you some of the people that I selected.
That way you just heard the second hour was as good as anything we've ever done with Mark and Kevin.
That second hour of tonight's show was incredible.
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And there's so many shows like that.
So you couldn't possibly pare it down to just 10 or 15 selections, which is what I had to do.
But I'll tell you what you're going to get.
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And here's who you're going to hear.
It's not really just me, because in these selections, Bill Rowland's on some of the shows, Keith, Eddie.
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He's a columnist for Forbes magazine.
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And by the way, some of these guests have been on multiple times, so you're not going to get an interview that you heard in the best of Bill or the Best of Keith CDs.
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United States Representative Walter Jones, that was an interview we did last year that made a lot of news.
Most of the selections, though, are from the early years of the Cesspool.
And I know we've had some people around that have been with us since day one, but the majority of our audience have come in later in recent years.
So I think I have about 15 different shows that I've selected for you.
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And I'm telling you, folks, we did some incredible work in the summer of 08.
I was going through there and I think, man, every show here should be on the best of.
We did a great interview with Pat Buchanan when he was promoting his book, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
Every time Pat comes on, the media just starts having seizures over the fact that he and I still continue to collaborate, as you well know.
But I guess that interview we did with him in 08 was kind of the forgotten interview.
You know, the one we did most recently made a ton of press.
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And the very first interview I did with Pat in 2006, we put on the website a couple of times at the end of his weekly columns.
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Pat Buchanan, getting back to that.
In that summer of 08, I think in a two or three week period, we had Mark Weber, Kevin McDonald, and Pat Buchanan on.
I think Weber was on the same show as Pat.
And, you know, just as fate would have it tonight, we had both Kevin and Mark on again live in the second hour.
And Pat Buchanan had written some things in his columns about Syria that harken back to that interview I did with him in 08.
Now, this interview will be included on that CD.
I've been talking about the incentive CD.
Let's listen to it now.
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The one and only Pat Buchanan.
Pat, we love you, and thank you for spending a few minutes with us today.
Well, thank you for giving me the time, folks.
Anytime.
It's always an honor.
And, well, you've done it again, my friend.
Another book, another runaway bestseller.
But this one is perhaps your most provocative work to date.
Tell me, Pat, what compelled you to write Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War?
Well, there were a number of things.
One is it is a phenomenal story.
What happened to the Western civilization that ruled the entire world in 1914, and 30 years later, all of Europe was in ashes or aflame, and communists had half of Europe, and all the great Western empires had been destroyed.
And so I went back to try to locate the historic blunders that were made.
And I think we located eight of them.
So it was a great story in the first place.
Secondly, it's a cautionary tale for the United States.
The arrogance you see, the hubris of these folks, the monarchs and all their retainers just before World War I.
We can see emulated today, copied today, frankly, by some folks in the post-Cold War America.
So it was to try to tell a cautionary tale to prevent what happened to us, what happened to Great Britain and the British Empire.
Yeah, with that being said, that is a perfect segue to my next question.
What are the parallels between the United Kingdom of the interwar years, those being the years between World War I and World War II, and the United States of America today?
Well, one of the greatest is the British decisions to alienate old allies like Japan, which had been a loyal ally in World War I.
The Brits broke the treaty with them on the demand of the United States for no good reason whatsoever.
And Japan was sort of driven into isolation and anger and rage and eventually turned to her own imperial policy and collided with Great Britain.
Italy, even under Mussolini, who loathed Hitler, was driven into Hitler's arms by the British-French decision to sanction Italy over a colonial war in Ethiopia, which was a mistake.
They should have focused on Germany.
And finally, you get this war guarantee that the British gave to Poland unsolicited, even though Poland had participated in the rape of Czechoslovakia.
At least the regime had.
And so all of these decisions, you see them replicated in the United States now handing out war guarantees to the Baltic republics, to Ukraine and Georgia, if McCain is elected.
So I just see the same pattern repeating itself again and again.
And I do believe the gentleman who said he owed, you know, people really do not learn from history was right.
Well, you know, Pat, you've offered so many great books, and I've got all of them.
Every time you set to write a book, you can guarantee yourself on one cell, and that's right here in Memphis.
But out of all your books, I really appreciated A Republic, Not an Empire as much as any of them.
And you addressed this issue in one of the chapters in that book.
And in this book, you expound upon that and certainly skewer the myth of Winston Churchill.
What are some of the mistakes or myths, if you will, that hold up Churchill as a hero among many Americans, especially the neoconservatives?
Well, there's no question that Winston Churchill was a heroic figure in 1940 when he took over the premiership in Great Britain just as the Germans were breaking through in the Ardennes.
He defied Hitler.
He defied the Germans.
He fought on.
He inspired his people.
He was the leader during the Battle of Britain.
And Americans watched that from across the ocean.
And there was an indelible impression that here was the defiant bulldog who represented the British people at their best.
That's a true story.
That's not just myth.
However, there's another Churchill who in 1942, 43, 44 is slipping into Moscow, dividing Europe with Stalin.
I mean, groveling to Stalin in a way that would make Neville Chamberlain look like David Crockett, writing off the Poles for whom the British had gone to war.
And then you go back all the way to 1913 or 1914.
He lusted for war far more than the Kaiser who was trying to avoid war.
And these are all myths that we've been raised on as kids.
And so this is one reason I wrote the book, At least the New Generation Coming Up that is not sort of, if you will, saturated or marinated in these myths, can understand how it was our grandfathers and fathers destroyed Western civilization.
Excellent answer.
Very well put.
And as with any Buchanan book, this one has received a great deal of fanfare, much critical acclaim, and a few inevitable attacks.
What is it, Pat, about World War II that your detractors don't seem to understand?
I think there is an idea, and it's come, frankly, and the book is dedicated to four of my uncles who were greatest generation Americans and fought in Europe, one of whom came back from Anzio with a silver star.
I think it's the idea that this was a good war.
This was a war where good, pure good fought pure evil, which a war that had to be fought and was necessary.
And there are no doubts and qualms about it.
But that is not true, as I write.
And that's why you, in effect, are dispelling some of the great myths by which Americans live.
When you say that, I mean, Winston Churchill blundered.
I mean, Chamberlain and Churchill blundered serially again and again to bring about a war with Germany.
Hitler didn't want war with the West.
He didn't want war with Poland.
He didn't want a world war.
He wasn't even prepared for a world war.
To say that he was a thug and a brutal dictator and a bully and someone who used threats of violence and force as tools of diplomacy is correct.
To say that he did horrible things in wartime is correct.
But as I say, had there been no war, there would have been no Holocaust.
And I'm not sure there would have been a war if the British hadn't issued this insane war guarantee.
Well, you know, history is, Pat, kind of like a Sunday buffet.
People seemingly take what they want and leave the rest on the table.
And, of course, it's been lost to antiquity, the fact that the vast majority of Americans stood with Charles A. Lindbergh and the American First Committee in opposition to our entry into World War II before the attack, of course, on Pearl Harbor.
Well, good for you.
Good for you and bringing up Colonel Lindbergh's name because his reputation has been blackened because of a single speech he gave and a couple of paragraphs in it where he said that, you know, there are three forces that are moving for war.
And one of them is, of course, the Roosevelt administration.
The other is the British, which was clearly true.
They had the man called Intrepid William Stevenson trying to find ways to get the Americans into war, putting up propaganda, frankly, blackmailing senators and everything.
And then he said the Jewish community is beating the drums for war, but this is going to be a disaster for the Jewish community if we get into war.
And of course, that was verboten to say, but frankly, no one has said what he said was, you know, palpably untrue.
And these folks, and before December 7, 1941, the America First Committee offered, they said, look, let's put up a resolution in Congress and we declare war on Germany and have it voted up or down, but don't sneak us by a back door.
He ain't into war.
All right, let's pause it right there.
We're going to pause it right there and listen to the conclusion of my interview with Pat Buchanan from the summer of 2008 when the political cesspool continues here on the Liberty News Radio Network.
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All right, everybody, we are revisiting tonight an interview that I conducted with Pat Buchanan from June of 2008 because I think that it has some similarities with the way in which America got involved in World War II.
There are some similarities with what's going on in Syria, which was our focus, of course, in the second hour.
So let's go back into that interview and listen to the remainder of it, and then I'll be back to talk with you some more.
Uncles had fought and fled and died in World War I, only to make the world safe for democracy, only to see the British Empire next another million square miles.
And we're certainly following in their footsteps with regards to the collapse of what was truly the greatest nation in the history of civilization, these United States of America.
But you mentioned propaganda.
Had Devon Providence seemed fit for Pearl Harbor to have never occurred, let's say the United States stays home and Germany proceeds to defeat Stalin, what would America have looked like in 2008, Pat?
Witler have come over here, liquidated Christianity, Holocausted our people, or would perhaps the world have been a better place had we abstained?
Well, you can't know, I mean, by then, when you're talking about 1941, Hitler did not want war in the West.
That's why he didn't demand the return of Alsace Lorraine from France, where he did want the return of Danzig from Poland or from the League of Nations.
And he did not want war with Britain, never did.
He wanted to see the British Empire preserved.
He was a great admirer of it.
He thought Britain was a natural ally of Germany because they had no conflicts.
And so I think if the British hadn't given the war guarantee, I don't know that there would even have been a war with Poland.
Because the German offer was not outrageous for return political control of their city, Danzig, with the Poles having economic control.
And I don't know if there would even have been a war with the Soviet Union then for the reason that Germany would not have had a border with the Soviet Union.
They would have had to get permission from Romania or from Poland and from Hungary even to invade the Soviet Union.
So I don't know that it would have been a war.
If, however, if Hitler had not declared war in the United States, I think he would have been stopped in Russia.
The Russians had stopped him clearly by 1940.
But it might have, the outcome of that war would have been in doubt because I think it was American Lend-Lease and all the equipment we gave to Stalin which enabled him to really sustain his war effort and mount that enormous offensive the Russians had coming into Europe.
I do think if you had not gotten into the war by 43, Stalin would probably have been on the Rhine, not just the Elbe.
Well, that's very interesting, and it could have been, but certainly a lot of American blood would have been spared, and I think that's what we all would have wanted.
Right.
Well, it was a wonderful thing the America First People did, and I was criticized for it.
But in the America First folks, kept us out of war until after Hitler made his fatal blunder of invading Russia, which meant that the Russians bore the burden of battle as they rightly should have, as Stalin's regime certainly should have, because they were partners of Hitler.
And Americans, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of American soldiers, lived who would not have lived if we had had to fight Germany from the West and without the Soviet Union in the war.
Well, Pat, you're certainly a student of history.
I like to read as much as I can.
I certainly wouldn't compare my intellectual prowess to yours, but if we could survive General Sherman, we could have survived Hitler, I think.
But let me ask you this: how did you go about researching for this book?
This is yet another typically well-researched Pat Buchanan book.
Who did you primarily consult with and reference when writing this?
Well, what I did was after I did A Republic, Not an Empire, I got that good letter from George Kennan, the great geostrategist of the Cold War, who agreed with me on a point I've been really torn apart for, which was when I said, look, once after the Battle of Britain, if the Germans couldn't get air superiority over the British Isles, they certainly couldn't get it over the Atlantic.
And if they couldn't land in England, they're not going to land in the United States.
It's preposterous.
There was no threat.
And I was attacked for that.
And I sort of determined, I said, at some point, I'm going to expand on this argument because I think it's true.
And so, well, you know, I started reading more and more books, and I was going to write a book on the war guarantee.
And then you go back and say, well, how did we get to there?
And you keep going back, and I had to sort of cut it off in 1905.
But I've got about 120 books, histories, biographies, all, I mean, Churchill, I must quote six of Churchill's books, six of Andrew Roberts' books.
He's a friend of mine, a historian in Britain.
And you just keep reading them, and what you do is you decide, here's the six key decisions and pivot points that decided the history of the century.
One of them, of course, is just before the six weeks between Sarajevo, the assassination of the Archduke in World War I. You get Versailles, another.
And I decided that the British breaking their treaty with Japan was another at the Washington Naval Conference.
And then I've discovered that Mussolini despised Hitler, loathed him, wanted an alliance with the West.
So you did the stress affront, then the familiar ones, Rhineland, Amschluss, Munich.
But the key one is the war guarantee.
And that's the soul of the book.
And I would, if people can only read one chapter, read that because it shows how leaders in panic and haste and folly who have been knocked on their heels by being humiliated can make a horrendous decision which costs them everything, everything.
The whole British Empire and the British nation as one of the first ranked of nations that was put on the line in an insane war guarantee that the British could not honor and did not honor.
And if people want to know more, they're going to have to go out and buy the book, right, Pat?
Yes, sir.
Buy it and take it to the beach on July 4th.
There you go, and buy a couple of copies for your friends.
And that book is, of course, Churchill Hitler and the Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.
It is a runaway bestseller on the charts right now, authored by our good friend Pat Buchanan.
Mr. Buchanan, thank you so much for coming back on our program for fighting for our people.
And last question.
What can your fans expect to see from Pat Buchanan for the next 20 to 30 years?
Well, I don't know how long we're all going to last, to be very honest.
I hope to write, you know, I've got one book in mind.
I'm not sure I'm going to do it.
One book in mind, which is, I think that, and it would be not a large book, but it's sort of the, it's not Death of the West, but it's sort of the coming world where I think issues of race and ethnicity and culture, the wars of race, ethnicity, and culture, are going to replace the old wars, if you will, of ideology and dynasty and empire.
And I see that coming, and it's not a pleasant sight.
But Pat Moynihan sort of saw it coming.
So did Dr. Schlesinger.
And I've read a number of columns on this.
And you see the divisions in our society increasingly along the lines of race and ethnicity.
And I don't think it's a pleasant prospect that our kids and grandkids confront.
And I'm going to try to address it and see if there's any ways that it can be resolved sort of short of some sort of balkanization of America.
More to come from Pat Buchanan.
Stay tuned.
And again, Mr. Buchanan, thank you for your service, for your generosity in appearing with us.
I turned 28 years old this week.
You've made my birthday quite memorable.
And we thank you for that.
I can remember when I was 28.
You know what I was doing?
What's that?
I was flying around the country with Richard Nixon at just this period in 1966, trying to elect Republicans after the Goldwater disaster.
And we succeeded.
Elected 47 of them.
So in other words, your 28th year on earth with a hell of a lot more production.
Thanks for watching.
I don't know about that.
Thanks again, my friend, and God bless you.
Well, God bless you.
Bye-bye.
Pat Buchanan, what a guy.
You know, we would not be here if it weren't for Pat Buchanan, at least in a manner of speaking.
You know, I guess everyone knows I worked for him in 2000 during his last run for the presidency.
And it was a result of that political awakening that I got on that campaign trail that year.
And it was a great year.
It was a long year.
Obviously, that whole experience didn't end as we had hoped, but it breathed political life into me.
And I, of course, ran for office two years after that and then started the radio show in 2004, which would have been two years after my run for office.
And Pat has been a guy, he has stood by us.
You know, his last time on the show, when he was promoting Suicide of a Superpower, he, of course, was asked on national public radio about his relationship with this radio program.
And he defended the political successful on national public radio.
This is Pat Buchanan we're talking about here.
You know, political nobodies, you know, losers will turn on you.
People who have nothing to lose, no names, will turn on you at the very first hint of opposition.
But I'll tell you, two people who never have, Pat Buchanan and Sam Bushman.
And they have my undying respect, admiration, and love for that.
But that's the kind of guy Pat is.
And that's the kind of show we have here, ladies and gentlemen.
I mean, did you hear that interview?
That's what we do, and we've been doing it for nine years.
We're doing it tonight.
We're going to do it next week and next month and next year and for many years to come.
We hope.
Great interview.
Great man.
We'll be back.
We're going to wrap up the show right after this.
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All right, folks, that interview with Pat, again, another reason why the political cesspool is so valuable in terms of the public discourse.
I remember when that book came out, Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War.
I remember doing the interview.
I remember driving up to the studio and taping it.
That wasn't a live interview.
It was one of the very few that we do that are not live.
And sometimes, you know, when you're dealing with someone with a busy schedule, as Pat's is, and certainly was, you tape them to better accommodate them.
And so we did that.
Actually, Pat's last appearance on the political cesspool was live when he was promoting Suicide of a Superpower.
But anyway, I remember taping that interview, and I really wanted to have him back on the show because when that book came out, he was shouted down and dismissed as a Nazi sympathizer and a Hitler supporter because he dared argue that America should have abstained from World War II.
And he breaks down his case as to why and his belief and in mine that would have been the best course of action, why World War II, as so many wars, were completely unnecessary with regards to America's vital interests.
You can disagree with Pat on that.
But he offers a case and sets it up logically.
But again, as with everything, if you're offering a dissenting opinion on really any subject now, to just get dismissed as a Nazi and as this and as that is absolutely ludicrous.
I said, you know, we're going to do something about this.
We're going to have him on.
We're going to talk to him.
We're going to let him talk back.
Of course, you know, he did have some interviews, of course, where he was able to present his case, but there was a lot of the name-calling, as you would have imagined.
And so, you know, we gave him a forum and a venue, as we do with all of our guests, where they can come on and clearly and concisely put forth their ideas without spending half of the interview deflecting and, you know, arguing whether or not they are this, that, or the other.
You insert your ridiculous adjective.
And that's really what happens, you know, so often when you're talking about these issues, if you get a chance to go on, you spend half the time debating whether or not you're a Nazi or a racist.
And that's not why we do it here in the Political Cessible.
We know how it is.
But anyway, that was a great interview.
And I'll tell you, that's going to be on that incentive CD for those who contribute $100 or more.
If you want to go ahead and order it tonight, folks, just go to thepolitical cesspool.org.
$100 contribution.
We'll put yours in the mail.
It's going to include 15 programs, 15 episodes that were handpicked by me in a night during which I burned the midnight oil.
I thought I'd get it done in an hour or two.
I ended up spending eight hours staying up to four in the morning, picking some shows that I thought gives you a great representative sampling of what the political cesspool and our body of work is all about.
So you get that interview with Pat.
You actually get all three of the interviews I've done with Pat on the Political Cess Pool.
But what's so great about that show, and Sam Bushman and I were listening to it earlier today as we were preparing that clip for broadcast tonight.
Yes, the interview with Pat was outstanding, I think, but before and after Pat's appearance, you had Keith Alexander and Bill Rowland discussing that particular book.
And I'm telling you, it was every bit as good as anything Buchanan could have said and did say.
And so you don't just get the interview itself.
You get the entire program that that interview was conducted for.
So you're going to get that interview and then all of the other commentary before, during, and after.
And that goes with every show that we include.
It's going to be 15 shows.
You're going to be getting, I don't know, 40 or 50 hours worth of radio because that was a three-hour show.
It's great stuff.
Some other people you're going to be getting.
Ray Stevens, of course, the Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter.
You're going to get that show.
Paul Craig Roberts, been on the show a couple of times.
He is the former Secretary of the Treasury of the United States of America.
Now, of course, a columnist that writes about a lot of issues that we're interested in.
And I'll tell you another one.
One of my all-time most memorable interviews, Lieutenant Gottfried Dulias.
This guy was indeed, hold your breath, folks.
He was a Luftwaffe pilot.
He was a pilot for the German Air Force in World War II.
And I remember having him on.
That was 06, 07, I believe.
You can imagine what they called me for having interviewed this guy.
But he had written a book, Another Bowl of Capusta.
And I have a book.
I have the book.
It's a great book.
It details his time as a prisoner of war in the Russian gulags.
We didn't get into any of Hitler's policies.
Gottfried Dulias is a Christian.
And we talked about his faith in the interview.
He was a soldier who fought for his country.
What was he supposed to do?
Say no, get executed.
He fought for his country.
Doesn't have anything to do with Nazism and all that.
That's not what the interview was about.
But his story is absolutely incredible.
And it's another story that you would just never hear anywhere else.
The History Channel isn't going to touch stories like this.
The suffering of Germans at the hands of the Russians.
Who cares?
They were evil, dirty Nazis, right?
Listen to this man's interview.
It's going to be on this tape.
Of course, you can find it in the broadcast archives.
He's still alive.
He's in his 90s.
He lives in New York.
And I still talk with him from time to time.
I think we had him on twice.
You actually got one interview with him in the Best of Bill Rowland CD, an interview during which Bill and I, it was a follow-up interview to the one you're going to get in this one.
But it's an interview that Bill and I did with Lieutenant Dulias during which we talk about the kind of airplanes and weaponry that the Luftwaffe used.
But this one details his time as a prisoner of war and the horrible treatment that he received and was subjected to and how many people died and how the conditions were so bad.
It's a touching story and again, one that I think people need to hear.
And anyway, if someone charged me with the task of selecting 15 shows, and I guess I took it upon myself to do it, these were the ones that I picked.
Again, so hard to pick best of when you're looking at a body of work.
I think every show is very well done that we do.
I mean, we wouldn't do it otherwise, right?
I mean, we don't come in and say, well, I hope tonight's a mediocre show.
You know, we come in here every night hoping to do the very best job that we can.
So I think every show is well done.
I think every show is good.
So it's hard when you're talking about a thousand shows and pare it down to 15.
I mean, tonight's show could have been on it.
But this is what we got.
Survivors of the USS Liberty Attack.
You get Drew Lackey, United States Representative Walter Jones, Pat Buchanan, Paul Craig Roberts, Sam Bushman, Ray Stevens, Nick Griffin, member of European Parliament, some heavy-duty guests that we've had.
I mean, not all of them, but some.
And much, much more.
Jared Taylor, Mark Weber, Richard Spencer, Ken McDonald, they're all there.
It's going to be on one disc just for you, ladies and gentlemen.
So we ask that you support this fundraising drive.
And you'll get that.
Anyway, big month coming up for us here in the political session for all of us, and that's why I think I want to impress upon you the value of our work is because it's not anything – I mean, yeah, I'm proud of it.
Of course, I'm proud of it.
But really, it's what you've done, folks.
Any accomplishments that we garner, any show that we do that you think was good or decent, it's a result of you.
The audience empowers this show and propels it forward.
Anything we do, anytime we make news, this opportunity I have with the TV show coming up.
I'm going to be traveling soon to film my part, and we're going to give you more details as soon as we're able to do that.
Prime time in January, it's going to be aired.
Very exciting stuff, folks.
You made that happen.
That's your accomplishment.
I'm just your proxy.
I'm just your mouthpiece.
I'm just your voice.
I'm your servant.
Sam Dixon.
I have to catch myself with Sam Dixon and Sam Bushman.
Not to get them confused sometimes.
Not that they are confusing, but just quickly dropping a name.
But, well, it's just good company, right?
So I guess there is interchangeable with that.
Sam Dixon, though, always accuses me of being falsely modest.
And as I always respond to him, I'm not falsely modest.
I have much to be modest about.
So I'm not trying to be the all shucks, you know, humble as me guy here, but it is the truth.
I am your proxy.
That's the truth.
Everything we do, everything we've ever done is a result of your support and generosity.
I know it sounds like we've spent an hour fundraising here, and we typically don't like to do that, but it needs to be done because we've got some big things coming up and some exciting accomplishments that are waiting for us as we continue to move that needle forward.
And more great interviews, folks.
Listen, every show is a victory.
It truly is.
And next week's going to be another one.
You like tonight's show?
We've got another one next week.
And who knows who's going to be on it?
We don't even know yet.
That's what's so exciting.
It's still all in written.
It's all there before us.
And wherever this road leads, we will travel that path together and we will continue to fight.
God bless y'all.
Thank you.
I'll talk to you next week on the Political Cesspool.
Have a great one, everybody.
Thanks for joining us tonight in the Political Cesspool.