March 30, 2013 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, everybody.
Welcome back to the third and final hour of the last show before Easter.
Of course, Easter Sunday is tomorrow.
Christmas is a big day in the Christian calendar, but it's second to Easter, and we're going to be talking about that this hour.
Welcome back to the Political Cesspool, everybody.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
Saturday, March 30th.
And coming to you live from our flagship AM radio station here in Memphis, Tennessee, going out to the AMF and Missiliers of the Liberty News Radio Network.
We're going to put politics partially aside.
I mean, we can never truly separate our politics from our faith, and I think that's one of our enduring attributes.
But primarily tonight, we're going to be talking about Easter and what it means to me, what it means to Eddie the Bombardier Miller, who is hosting the third and final for me, or with me, I should say, taking the spot of Keith Alexander.
And at the end of the show, we're going to be hearing from my very own pastor tonight with an Easter message.
But when you're talking about Easter, I want to read a statement that I wrote a few years ago, and I just, I keep reposting it every year because if it was true then or if I believed it to be true then, I certainly believe it to be true now.
And this is what I came up with, Eddie.
Easter is the weekend where most of the Christian world commemorates what is the pivotal point in all of history, the death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Imagine what it must have felt like for his mother, disciples, and the small band of family and friends to watch as he agonizingly gasped for air on the cross.
What was going through their minds as they witnessed the most unspeakable act of injustice the world has ever seen unfold right before their eyes?
And how often do we find ourselves lamenting the slow grinding death of our nation, our culture, our very flesh and blood kinsmen in this degenerate age?
At our gatherings, we recount horror upon horror as we feel our way of life slipping from our grasp.
At the very darkest of hours, we must remember the words spoken so long ago at the empty tomb.
He is not here.
He is risen.
To the degree that those words resonate in our hearts, they strike fear in the hearts of our enemies.
The more we take them to heart, the more those who oppose us lose heart.
They know instinctively what we too easily forget.
It only takes one.
We don't have to take over the Republican Party or the media, and we don't have to outnumber them.
It only takes one.
It can happen because it did happen.
And he promised that he would do even greater things.
We would do even greater things than he because he would be working through us.
Now, I ask you to take the time to ponder that promise and have a blessed and happy Easter.
And with that, Eddie, I turn it over to you because I know this was a very special and important segment that you wanted to be a part of.
I appreciate that, James.
Yeah, I have been looking forward to being on this program right before Easter.
You know, James, as you well know, I became a Christian two months before my 62nd birthday, which was February the 8th of 2009.
And since then, I think my faith has grown stronger every year.
And just about everybody that knows me knows that.
They've noticed a big change in me.
And Easter has been really, really a big thing for me since then.
And you mentioned, James, how important Christmas is.
But I know it's an old cliche with all the old time, the old line ministers that haven't deserted the true Christianity yet.
If Jesus never rose from the grave, then all else was no good.
It'd be meaningless.
I've heard one pastor say that even if he knew that there was no heaven and that the grave was the end, he said he would still be a Christian because of the benefits that come from a Christian life.
And I subscribe to that too, but there's no doubt in my mind, James, that there is a hereafter.
And if you want me to, I can tell you about some of the things the Cesspool's doing.
One of the things the Cesspool is doing, I've co-hosted the Cesspool.
I have my own little ministry going on downtown in the midtown in Memphis in downtown.
I go down to the area of town where people, a lot of people would be called the Dregs of Society hang out.
And I pick a few of these people up.
I've had to put it on the back burner recently, and I'll tell you why in a minute, where I've had to slow that down.
But I go down and I find these people that are poor and down and out on their luck.
And you see, a lot of people that have mental problems now.
We used to call them retarded in the olden days.
We can't call them retarded anymore because that's politically correct.
But a lot of them are retarded.
Some of them just have mental illness, you know, not schizophrenic so much, but they have all types of mental issues.
And I try to take them and get them something to eat.
I take them to nice restaurants, get them a nice hot meal.
And when they're through, James, as you well know, if they're willing, I try to witness to them.
I try to tell them about how my conversion to Christianity came about.
It was just a miraculous conversion.
It happened in a microsecond.
It was almost like a lightning bolt hit me when it happened.
And I never dreamed it would happen to me.
I didn't think it could.
I used to did not like Christians.
I didn't like church people.
I especially didn't like Baptist.
And now I go to a Baptist church.
And matter of fact, I used to go out of my way to insult the Baptist minister who is of the church for my grandson.
It's getting ready to graduate from school.
I won't mention the name.
It might embarrass him.
But I used to go out of my way to insult him.
Here I am now down in midtown taking these people to get to eat.
Now I have two restaurants sponsoring me.
I won't mention their name either because they might not like that.
But I have two restaurants sponsoring me that will let me bring people in.
They said I've used my own judgment.
If they're really and truly hungry, they'll bring them in, give them a meal, and I can testify to Christ for them.
And it's right, try to bring them around.
And I try to point them to other areas in the city.
For instance, we have the church health center here in Memphis, and they minister.
They give top-notch medical care to down and out.
And I'll tell you people something else, too.
I've been there on the streets.
I came up a lot different from most of you people.
I'm not crying in my milk, but my mother left me when I was eight years old.
I came home from school one day and all the furniture was gone.
And I'm not too smart, but I knew something was up with all the furniture gone.
And my dad was on the road all the time.
He was a heavy drinker and alcoholic.
And so, you know, I was always one step away from the gutter.
Even to this day, I know that me and James here, we're one day away from the gutter, people.
We could have a depression.
We could have some type of catastrophic health problems.
We could lose everything we have.
And people are doing that every day.
So listen, I've learned something the hard way.
Do not ever look down your nose at somebody on the street.
You never know what situation they have come from.
We have many people that have come from really wealthy families that have down on their luck.
Things have happened out of their control.
And they just can't help it.
And sometimes God, I tell you what, sometimes God will use that.
He will take you and rub your nose in the dirt to get your attention.
He did mine in the past, James.
But not to make it sound like we're evangelical Christians here, because we really are.
We are Christians here.
And James mentioned earlier that we don't want to go too heavy on the preaching and acting like we're evangelical Christians here because we don't want to seem like hypocrites.
But I can guarantee you we're not.
I know I feel what I feel.
And we'll get back to you.
I think we're coming to a break, folks.
I'm getting ready to turn you back over to James.
Well, I said earlier in the show, Eddie, we don't separate our politics from our faith.
We're unabashedly pro-white and paleoconservative, and we are distinctly Christian.
And those two things don't contradict themselves.
I know, unfortunately, a lot of non-believers now view Christians as meek and feeble and ineffective.
and even feminine.
And I understand that because I see a lot of the apostasy in a lot of the denominations now, and I can understand why people who don't know better would think that.
But there isn't such thing as a Christian soldier.
I believe that we are that to the best of our ability.
I mean, we're going to take a break and continue with more right after this.
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All right, welcome back to the show, everybody.
Easter Sunday is tomorrow.
And as we mentioned, this is a Christian radio program.
We don't hide that candle under a bush.
Well, it's a political talk show, so we mostly talk politics on this show.
But when asked, or perhaps when not even prompted, we do want to make mention of our faith as well.
Because the fact of the matter is, folks, Western civilization, Christianity was the building block of Western civilization.
Everything good that has come from Western civilization in the so-called common era has come under the banner of Christianity.
And, you know, I look around and I know that we have some folks who don't believe, don't share our faith in the audience, and that's fine.
You know, as I've said often, I would much rather share a foxhole with some of our non-believers than I would some of these watered-down and weak Christians.
But the apostasy in the church is not God's fault.
Men lead up the church, and men are fallible.
And it seems as though you go to church some days, and the message is in order to get to heaven, you have to intermarry, donate funds to Israel, and volunteer for a mission in the Congo.
And that's not it.
Those things aren't necessarily evil.
You can be benevolent to people who don't look like you and aren't from our culture, don't share our beliefs politically.
That doesn't make you a bad person.
I believe anyone can come through Christ and receive salvation.
And there's nothing wrong with outreach to third world nations, to sub-Saharan African nations.
There's nothing wrong with that on its face.
But I just wonder, though, with all of these churches in Bellevue, for instance, the biggest Southern Baptist church in the world, which is located here in Memphis, they're doing outreach all the time.
And it always, without exception, is to non-white countries.
I mean, aren't poor, impoverished children in Romania and some of the Eastern European countries that suffered under communism, aren't they worthy of outreach too?
So, you know, these are things that I have problems with.
And I know a lot of people out there have problems with it as well.
That's the fault of the modern day church.
That's not the fault of the faith itself.
That's not the fault of Jesus Christ.
They have allowed political correctness to influence themselves way too much.
You look at what's going on, Eddie, at Florida Atlantic University.
I told you about that earlier in the week.
We covered it at the top of the show tonight.
The students had to write the name of Jesus on their paper and stomp on it.
And this was something that the teacher instructed them to do.
It came out of the teacher's manual.
No churches got out in the streets and bothered to protest that.
They went inside the churches of a couple or inside the offices of pastors at a couple of churches there near the campus.
And of course, in the privacy of the pastor's office, he said, yeah, I don't think that's a good thing.
That's insensitive.
But none of these pastors, none of these churches, not one church anywhere in the country rose up and went down there and fought back.
There's a such thing as a Christian soldier.
And I'll tell you something else, ladies and gentlemen.
There's a such thing as a righteous anger and a righteous intolerance.
God is intolerant of sin, abortion, homosexuality.
I know a lot of Christians are backsliding on homosexuality now.
Well, we can't be politically incorrect.
We're going to start trimming ourselves here.
Well, there is a righteous indignation.
You should be intolerant of evil.
And Hunt Gibson had a great quote on it.
I'll try to find it and we'll get to it.
But we're the Christian soldiers, Zetty.
You don't have to believe in everything that we say politically to be a Christian.
God knows.
All you have to do is accept Jesus Christ.
We have certain political beliefs that we don't think run contrary to our faith, but you don't have to believe in everything that we say politically to be a Christian.
But you can be a Christian soldier.
You don't have to be a weak, effeminate sissy boy in order to be a Christian.
And unfortunately, most Christian spokespeople today are exactly that.
Christian soldiers, Eddie, your thoughts?
Well, God hates feminism.
You know, matter of fact, James, the sin of homosexuality in the Bible is described as an abomination in the eyes of God.
And you mentioned politics and religion.
Well, I'll tell you, James, religion is politics.
Politics is religion.
Every martyr in the Bible, just about everyone I can think of, including Ashad, Rishak, and Abednego, all the saints were killed, including John the Baptist.
They were killed for political reasons because they were protesting against the government.
And another thing, too, you're so right.
You do not have to be integrate.
You don't have to marry a black.
You don't have to have sexual relations with a black to be a Christian.
That's totally unchristian.
You know, the whole, James, the whole history of the Israelites in the Old Testament was one of segregation.
God kept them segregated from all the other races and all the other tribes.
Was it Jacob that sent his son, you know, sent his servant off to get a wife, excuse me, Isaac that sent his servant off to his kindred?
He said he wanted a wife or his son, Jacob, because he didn't want him to interbreed with different races.
But James, like I said, you talked about our country being in such a crappy shape.
One of the most atheistic, the person who's supposed to be an atheist, one of the founding fathers, I'll read you a quick statement.
He said, Thomas Jefferson said, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.
That's a guy who was supposed to be the atheist.
Well, like I'm saying, James, everything is political.
In our church, I just told my pastor, Brother Way Webb, here at the Macland Road Baptist Church two days ago, that the country is more screwed up than it has been ever in the history of the country.
I mean, you can't think of anything that's not gone to hell.
And I said, Brother Wayne, the problem, the blame can be laid squarely on the door of the churches because we do not get out in society.
We don't go out and protost anything.
For instance, they're always moaning and bitching, carrying on about abortion.
And I said, well, why don't we go down and just, you know, and pick at the abortion clinics?
Why don't we go down here and raise holy hell?
Why don't we do something about it?
And you know what their answer is?
Well, you know, we tried that and it didn't work.
And here's what they say.
Here's what they told me.
If it's any consolation, these children that are murdered in the wombs like that that are killed, they're going to go to heaven instantly.
Well, that doesn't really do me a lot of good.
You know, I've got to say one more thing.
And I've told people that sometimes I probably won't get into that because y'all people take it the wrong way.
But, you know, I've said, if you see, if we're coming up in the church parking lot, we see a couple of people in the parking lot being beat down and raped.
Wouldn't you defend them, James?
I mean, they'll say, well, two rights don't make a wrong.
But, yeah, James.
Oh, okay, Rio.
Well, I was going to say, Eddie, and you're right about that.
Some of the things we're talking about are non-salvational issues.
So, folks, I would encourage you to check your Bibles and come to your own conclusion about that.
But with regards to tolerance, and that is today's state religion, political correctness, tolerance of everything except well, Hutton Gibson has the best quote on it.
Here's what he said.
Mel Gibson's father, who's been a repeat guest on our show, tolerance is the last virtue of a depraved society, he said.
When an immoral society has blatantly and proudly violated all the commandments, it insists upon one last virtue, tolerance for its immorality.
It will not tolerate condemnation of its perversions.
It creates a whole new world in which the only intolerant critic of intolerable evil is evil.
That is short and sweet and to the point.
And I applaud him for that.
You know, Eddie, a lot of these so-called churches now have homosexual ministers.
You know, it's one thing to turn a blind eye to it and to not speak out about it because you know you're going to be called a bigot or a homophobe or a whatever because you adhere to God's law with regards to that.
But to pretend to be a church and have homosexual and lesbian ministers, I just don't get that.
And Eddie, with regards to your outreach, and again, it goes back.
Yes, everyone should be ministered to.
You minister to all people.
When you run for St. Jude, children of all races get helped, even in your street ministries.
It's not always whites that are the beneficiaries, but you don't exclude the whites, and a lot of these churches do.
We'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to the show, everybody, talking about Easter, what it means to us, what it means for everyone.
My pastor is going to be on deck for the final segment of the night.
But again, we don't separate who we are politically from who we are spiritually.
Obviously, we work here on this radio program on the political end of the spectrum, but we're also active members of our churches.
And I know from time to time, Eddie, you, along with others here on the staff, struggle with that to reconcile it because the churches are seemingly so scared of their own shadows.
I want to talk, have you talk, Eddie, about, of course, everyone knows about your work politically, but talk to the audience about some of the things you're trying to implement in your church and how relatively milquetoast it is compared to some of the things we do elsewhere on the show, for instance, and some of the resistance you're getting there and how you reconcile it all.
I'm glad you brought that up, James, because I've totally forgotten about that.
That's one of my prides.
Recently, my pastor, Mike Road Baptist here at Memphis, he started what he called kind of like a radical turning the church upside down.
For instance, he got rid of the Sunday night worship service.
He said he wanted people to start volunteering for different projects.
And by the way, I've volunteered for everything they have on the form.
I even volunteered for the nursery, James.
Like I told him, a change of 10,000 diapers on my grandson.
I like to tell him that.
And my two girls, I can work with kids.
I volunteered to work to teach the young children and the teeny boppers.
I would love to do that.
I told him when it was really dear to my heart, and that gave him, I volunteered for all their standard stuff.
Then I gave him nine things I wanted to do in the church.
First and foremost, I wanted to teach a course on the Constitution.
And I have this kit.
James, you know about it.
I ordered it from Peruca and Peruka Law Firm in Pasadena, Maryland.
Michael Perucco ran for the president on the Constitutionalist ticket.
And he had a Southern Baptist minister, his vice president, Charles Chuck, aka Chuck Balwin out of Florida, but Balmus has left for my, he lives in Montana now.
He was running into the same things we're running into, James.
He couldn't do anything.
Well, I want to teach this course.
I have the kit, you know, the DVDs, the workbooks, everything it takes to teach the course.
And I also have access to a constitutional attorney here in Memphis by the name of Hal Rounds, who's volunteered to come to the church and help me out for no charge, of course.
Well, I couldn't get my pastor getting back in touch with me.
And that was one of the things I wanted to do.
And I also said I would like to bring in, talk about milquetoast Christians and Christian soldiers.
Another thing I want to do, after I round that up, I want to bring in some of the buddies from Range USA.
They used to sponsor this show, James, if you remember right.
And they have some experts over there who are certified firearms instructors.
I wanted to bring the people into the church.
These are people from Range USA, the firearms instructors.
And I wanted to teach people, especially the ladies and the teenage, the young ladies and the older ladies, the ladies.
I wanted to teach them the safe and efficient way of handling firearms.
We have a lot of people in the church that are afraid of firearms.
In fact, there's an old cliche that says back in the old days, in the K-Man days, the old Indian days, the ancient people thought that evil spirit dwelled in rocks and trees and certain unhallowed grounds, areas of unhallowed ground.
But nowadays, a lot of people think that evil spirits inhabit firearms.
But I wanted to get them over that fear and teach them for their own good because it's a very violent society.
All right, so Eddie, just to recap, you're active in your church.
You've worked security detail in your parking lot.
You've cleaned the kitchen pots and pans.
As a registered nurse, you volunteered to man the nursery.
And he's active, your pastor is actively calling for members to step up and take a role of leadership in the church.
So you came to him with two things you'd like to do.
For the members that are interested, it wouldn't be a mandatory thing that the church requires everyone to go to.
But for the members who might be interested, you wanted to teach a Sunday school class on the Constitution.
And also for those that are interested, get them firearms training.
How did that go over with the leadership of your church?
In one word, it didn't, and it hadn't.
But I have not given up.
Well, Pastor Wayne says nothing.
And I've quarantined him.
And I said, what do you think about that, Pastor Wayne?
He said, well, that's a lot to think about, Brother Eddie.
So that's all he said.
And so I went to the junior, our associate pastor, who's the young guy in the wings, and I told him, I said, look, man, I want to do this bad.
This is very dear to my heart, Brother Sean.
Could you run interference for me with Brother Wayne?
Because if you could talk him into it, he caught me into another room and said, look, he said, there's no way you're crazy.
I mean, you must be nuts if you think I'm going to go to Pastor Wayne and tell him that.
He said, that's just too radical.
I said, radical?
And then I told him, James, I told him what we all, we probably said this 100 times on this show.
I said, have you ever heard of the black regiment in the First War of Independence?
It was the ministers.
There were so many ministers on the front lines killing with the bayonet and the musket and being killed with the bayonet and the musket.
There were so many of them that they called them the black regiment.
And one more thing.
Do you know who the British hated and feared more than anybody?
They wouldn't charge Washington, wouldn't Patrick Henry?
It was the ministers because the ministers were whipping these people up into a patriotic fervor and they were leading bayonet charges.
I'm telling these people that, but that's radical.
This is the reason we wanted to bring this to your attention, folks.
And we're going to end the whole show tonight with my pastor giving an Easter message, but we wanted to kind of weave politics and Easter into one another this hour because, look, we're fighting a retreating battle on all fronts in the media with these truly radical liberals.
And those people are the enemies.
But how do we expect to win against them, the people who are ramroding this antichrist message down our throats, if the leaders of our own churches believe that it is too radical to preach a course on the Constitution from Pastor David Whitney, as mainstream as they come, from a guy that worked with Michael Perutka of the Constitution Party?
You can't preach his constitutional. civics course in the church because that's too radical.
You can't ask if anybody in the congregation is interested in receiving firearms training because that's too radical.
It's too radical to do that with members who are willing inside the privacy of a Southern Baptist church.
You're not even talking, Eddie, about the church going out in the general public and talking about promoting the Constitution or Second Amendment proficiency.
You're talking about doing it just with those who may be interested within your own church.
And your own leadership is saying that, to teach a course of the Constitution, not on some of the things we talk about on this show, which are well and good and certainly in line with our faith, but just something as basic and as fundamental as constitutional civics and Second Amendment proficiency.
Your church says that too radical.
Folks, you know, you are fighting from way behind when you meet that resistance from a Southern Baptist church.
And you add to that what you have to face on the street from the non-believers.
You know, you brought up Pastor Whitney, and I didn't even bring him up, but with the Peruka Peruka Law Firm.
Yeah, Pastor Whitney's been on the show several times.
He sure has.
Pastor Whitney and Baldwin and Pastor Baldwin are both Baptist ministers, ordained Baptist ministers.
Whitney has been hired by the Peruka Law Firm to lead out this constitutional course.
And I'm sitting here just scratching my head, James, wondering, what is wrong with these people?
I mean, what is so radical about this?
And I fight a losing battle against this all the time.
And, you know, I've wanted to leave the church several times.
And I've told my wife about this.
We're not for the people I love so much in our church.
I probably would have gone and tried to, but there's no other churches you can go to.
Maybe start our own church, but it is hard to start your own church.
And we don't have a time.
You know, we work and do other things here.
But I stay there, James, to try to be a change agent as best I can, but I'm fighting a losing battle.
You just cannot believe how immovable these people are.
They're just totally the apathy is just mind-boggling.
You know, and I used to love, for instance, I used to love sports.
Now, they'll talk all day long about the, what is it, the basketball?
What is it, 50, 64 teams, whatever in basketball?
I wouldn't walk across the streets and see a basketball game.
I would at one time.
I used to love football, just like I used to love dogs.
But even the, you know, they've even perverted the dogs in our society.
Most of the people in our society, they put dogs above humans.
You know, my wife gets tired of me talking about the rescue dogs.
And here in the South, here over in Midtown and Memphis, I don't think there's a Southerner in Memphis, that part of town.
It's not a rescue dog.
It's a rescue dog.
And they treat them like they're some kind of a god.
I mean, I think they would run into a tree and kill themselves before they run over one of these rescue dogs.
That's just a sign of how weak and how detached from reality people have become.
I mean, I've seen my grandfather.
Listen, I have a great uncle who shot a dog inside of a house.
He got up on the supper table during one of the holidays.
He was up there eating.
My uncle didn't say a word.
He goes into the bedroom.
He gets a 12-gauge shotgun and blows a dog all the way off the table.
And people wince at that now.
But see, he liked the dog, but he realized, folks, he's not a human.
He's a dog.
And these people, see, they'll fight to the death with one of these worthless curs.
They'll pay $300 to get him out of a pound someplace because they're rescue dogs.
But they will not stand up for their own human rights, for their own, you know, for their bill of rights.
They won't stand up for it.
We're going to a break, folks.
Be back in a few minutes.
We'll be back with my pastor, no less.
And anyway, good work, Eddie.
Thank you, bud.
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To get on the political cesspool, call us on James's Dime, toll-free, at 1-866-986-6397.
And here's the host of the Political Cess Pool, James Edwards.
All right, everybody.
We have saved the best for last night.
I'm really excited to have my lifelong friend, one of my best friends, and my pastor, the only pastor I've ever known, David Rogers, back on the show with me.
Can't begin to tell you what this man's meant to me in my life.
In addition to leading me to the Lord and the den of my parents' home when I was six years old, and I still remember it as if it was yesterday.
You think you can't remember something that long ago, but I remember the couch I was sitting on.
I remember where Pastor was, my dad.
But above and beyond that, he has buried everybody that I've ever loved that has passed away.
He married my wife and I back in 2006.
If ever I have needed someone to help me, whether it was running for office or just anything, he has always been there without fail, one of the best men I know in life.
And he has been on the show several times as a guest, most often during the early years of the show, but perhaps most notably just last fall when he and I interviewed country music icon Ray Stevens together.
And that was certainly a moment that I'm proud to share with him too.
Well, Pastor, with that being said, welcome back to the show.
Well, James, it's an honor always to be on the show.
It's always an honor to be with you.
You say all this stuff about me.
It makes me feel awful old.
Well, we've been around.
We share a few scars.
You're certainly a little bit longer in the tooth than I, but truly, I have known you since birth and I'm all the better for it.
And I'm glad you're able to come on tonight because, you know, Christmas is a big day in the Christian calendar.
And as we've been talking about all hour, we're conservatives.
We don't hide our candle under a bushel spiritually or politically.
But this is a Christian show.
It's a political show, but it's a Christian show.
Christmas is big.
We love to celebrate it.
Easter's bigger.
And Pastor, I wanted you to close us out tonight with just a scriptural Easter message for the audience.
Well, James, I appreciate that so much.
You couldn't be any more correct about Easter being the biggest day in the Christian calendar.
Many folks don't realize that the reason we attend church on Sunday every Sunday of the year is because our Lord rose from the dead on Sunday.
He didn't rise on Saturday, but he rose on Sunday.
And even though Christianity comes out of Judaism, the Christians met on the first day of the week instead of the last day of the week.
I want to share with you from Matthew the 28th chapter, all the four gospels give an account of the resurrection.
But I want to share with this.
It'll be familiar to your believers, I mean, to your listeners, all those that are believers.
It says, beginning there in the first verse of that 28th chapter.
Now, after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb.
And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from the heavens and came and rolled back the stone from the door and sat on it.
And his countenance was like lightning, and his clothing was as white as snow.
And the guards shook and fell in fear of him and became like dead men.
But the angel answered and said to the women, Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.
He's not here, for he has risen as he has said.
Come and see the place where the Lord lay and go quickly and tell his disciples that he has risen from the dead.
And indeed, he has gone before you into Galilee.
There you will see him.
Behold, I've told you.
James, our Lord's resurrection, really, when everything else is in the balance, that's really the only thing that matters.
The scripture tells us if he has not risen from the dead, then we have no hope that we might rise from the dead.
And at the end of life, that's all that matters.
Several years ago, I was in my, I went to get a physical.
I was at the doctor's office, and the doctor's a good friend had been seeing him a long time.
And he drew and poked and prodded all the things that they do with that.
And he left the room to go over the things that he had done and Read all the cardigrams and whatever else all that stuff was.
And I got dressed when he came back in the room.
James, you know me, I can do a little bit of a smart oak sometimes.
He came back in the room and I said to him, Well, Doc, am I going to die?
And he looked up at me over the papers he had in his hands, and he said, Matter of fact, you are.
And he didn't have any levity in his voice at all.
And he took me back just a little bit.
He said, You are.
I am.
He said, Every patient ever had will.
He said, My job as a physician is to delay the inevitable.
And James, death is our ultimate tragedy, our ultimate foe.
It doesn't matter what country you were born in, where you've lived your life, what religion you have practiced, what church you've attended.
All of those things don't matter when you die.
If you are not in the right relationship with God, you're going to be dead forever.
You're going to be in what the scripture describes as eternal death in hell.
And the great good news for us is that as we start into the yawning chasm of the grave, there is hope there for us.
And when I say hope, I don't just mean maybe so hope.
The New Testament word hope means assurance.
And we look into the grave, what we see is that the grave has been conquered, it's been defeated.
In 1 Corinthians, Paul writes to the Corinthians there.
And in that 15th chapter, and toward the end of that chapter, he says, read this in Romans 15:51.
He said, Behold, I tell you a mystery.
We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, the last trumpet.
For the Lord, excuse me, for the trump will sound and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruption must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
So when corruption is put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory.
Oh, death, where is your sting?
Oh, grave, where is your victory?
James, we can be triumphant in life, not because we're perfect, heaven knows.
You know me, and you had a lot of nice things to say about me, but you know, I'm far from perfect, and I know you.
We better just stop it right there, Pastor.
That's all we need to know.
We know we are not perfect people.
The person that has to tell me about how spiritual are, I kind of wonder about that.
I know, I know that on my best day, I've not been spiritual enough to get into heaven.
The only thing that gets me into heaven is the blood that Christ shed on Calvary and his victory over death and hell and the grave.
And because that morning that angel said to those ladies, He's not here, He's risen.
And then He said, You go tell folks.
I'm telling you, it's the greatest thing that any of us can ever hope for or ever tell.
And tomorrow is a great day of celebration.
I have a little cross in my front yard, a little white cross in my front yard.
I bought several years.
I bring it out every Easter season, and I put it up right after Lent.
And it's just a white cross.
But tomorrow morning, before I go to church, I'll go outside.
I may go ahead and do this tonight for a good event.
I'll go outside and take that cross and turn it around.
And on the back side, it has written in bolden letters, which will become the front side of it around.
That's bold letters.
He is risen.
James, no political victory, no Super Bowl, no battle one, no war put to rest can compare with the good news that a Savior has come and he has defeated our greatest foe.
And if we will surrender our lives to him, I'm not talking about practice some religion that somebody put together, denomination, all that stuff, it's not what it's about.
What it's about is an intimate, personal relationship with the maker, the creator of the universe, the Lord Jesus Christ.
And because he's risen, the Bible describes him as the first fruits from the dead.
You know, when you plant a tomato plant, you look forward to that first tomato.
But the good thing about that first tomato is that once the first one comes, you're planning on many more to follow.
And we are the ones who follow his resurrection.
What a great day it'll be tomorrow as we celebrate our Lord's victory.
Pastor, this truly has been the highlight of the show.
I knew your timing, and we're right up at the tail end of it now.
But I want to thank you so much for delivering that message.
As I said earlier, it was on my heart that we worked that into the show tonight at Easter.
My only fault was having you on for a single segment rather than a single hour.
We have only seconds remaining, folks.
I know Pastor, my co-host, Eddie Miller, who's in the studio with me tonight, wants to say a quick word to me.
We really only have a few seconds, Eddie.
Pastor Rogers, I can indeed, I can tell you wholeheartedly, this has been the best part of the whole show.
You made my day.
I became a Christian two months before my 62nd birthday on February the 8th of 2009.
And chills are going up my spine, Pastor, when you did your program.
God bless you, man.
I'll turn you back over to James because we're just about out of time, Pastor.
But God bless you.
You have made my day, Pastor.
God bless you guys.
It's not me.
It's God.
It's all about Him.
Well, thank you, Pastor, for coming on.
And wanting to do this far more often.
Eddie was writing me a note during your talk saying, let's do this more often with this guy.
Hey, Pastor, love you, brother.
And I'll talk to you tomorrow.
All right, bud.
You take care.
You too, buddy.
Bye-bye.
That's it for Eddie, the Bobby Miller, Keith Alexander, the rest of the crew here.