Dec. 3, 2011 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
James Edwards is absent without leave tonight.
Bill Rowland sitting in for James Edwards.
And we're up to the third hour already.
Time flies when you're having fun and telling the truth.
And it certainly has flown by tonight.
But I think we've come to the very best part of the show, The Third Hour, which features one of our favorite guests, a very popular guest with the audience, intelligent, articulate, and full of vim and vigor, Sam Dixon.
Sam, welcome to the program.
Well, welcome to you.
I'm glad to be with you.
And I want to say happy Christmas to you.
No, happy Christmas to you.
Well, there we go.
We're going to keep that tradition going, at least on this show.
Now, Sam, I invited you on earlier this afternoon because I had a brainstorm, and it turned out to be a very good brainstorm that since we were discussing politics, particularly the Republican hopefuls for the presidency, that we should bring up Newt Gingrich, who has had a storied and jaded career, political career in the Republican Party.
And I thought, now, you know, Sam Dixon is from Georgia.
Maybe he could tell us a little bit about Newtie.
And it turns out you know quite a bit about Newt that probably has not been revealed before.
Sam Dixon, Newt Gingrich is currently, allegedly, the leader in the polls for the nomination.
And of course, these polls come flying out like confetti every time somebody new appears on the radar screen.
But currently, it's Newt.
I find it hard to believe.
I think he's one of the most unappetizing, unappealing candidates ever to run for office.
But the media is now proclaiming him the new leader in the polls.
What is it about Newt Gingrich that seems to not go away?
How come Newt Gingrich is still alive in politics after, as I said, a really less than stellar career in Congress and as a Republican?
Well, you know the answer.
People in big places and the secret powers like Newt Gingrich.
Newt Gingrich is their boy.
He's been their boy all his life.
Well, you actually have had personal contact with Newt Gingrich.
I think you said that I can't say that I knew him well, but he and I lived in the same precinct in DeKalb County, Georgia, when he was a student at Emory.
And the goal of the conservatives was always to keep Newt Gingrich off the county executive committee because he's already known to be a liberal Republican, an establishment Republican, an enemy of the kind of people who listen to this broadcast, an enemy to the native-born white American.
He was the Nelson Rockefeller campaign chairman for the Southeast in 1968.
So he already had credentials enough where he could be the flunky for the supreme representative of the East Coast internationalist, anti-American, elitist element of the Republican Party.
And from there, he went on.
He ran against the best Democrat in the state for Congress.
This is a little-known footnote of history, but we had a very fine Democrat named Jack Flint who represented the area sort of west and slightly south of Atlanta in Congress.
Jack Flint's son was in law school with me, and his daughter was a friend, his daughter-in-law was a friend of mine in college, and Flint and his son were all fine people, real Georgians, generations of Georgians, and somebody who was not bossed and controlled by the Democrat Party.
An example of that is that in 1966, the election to the midterm election after Lyndon Johnson's landslide victory over Goldwater, the Republicans picked up about 40 seats in the House in that election, which finally brought some degree of a stop to the great society, New Frontier, leftist spend, spin, spend spree of Kennedy and Johnson.
The closest race that year was in Georgia's in the fourth congressional district, and a Republican named Ben Blackburn defeated a very dedicated leftist Democrat named Jim Mackey, an incumbent.
He defeated him by about 300 votes.
Mackey, the Democrats still control Congress, and Mackey was confident that he could challenge the election and get seated by a very artful challenge to Georgia's voting laws and this kind of thing.
And because the margin was so close, he was confident that he would get seated and that Blackburn would not get seated.
And so Mackey went up to Congress and began lobbying to put together the Democrats to put him back where he could continue to vote for things like opening the borders for immigrants and that kind of stuff.
And he found out that the Southern Democrats were being organized by Jack Flint to oppose Mackey being seated despite the voters' wishes.
And he went to see Congressman Flint and said, Jack Liptis, I hear you're not supporting me, and you're supporting this Republican.
And Congressman Flint replied, Jimmy, you voted for one too many civil rights bills and one too many immigration liberalization bills, and you're right, and you're not going to get seated.
And Flint organized enough Southern Democrats where in a fairly close vote, the legitimately elected Republican conservative was seated.
Shortly thereafter, the Georgia Republican Party, which has always been a particularly odious party, made Jack Flint the number one target to be defeated in the congressional elections.
And the candidate to do that was little Newt Gingrich, a college professor in Carrollton.
And so Gingrich ran against Flint.
And every kind of effort was made to defeat Flint.
They manufactured false claims of corruption and threw them out in front of the voters right before the election.
And then it came out it was all concocted by the media and Gingrich as just a whole pack of lies.
And Flint would not debate Gingrich.
He was a rough unknown.
The Atlanta media contrived to trap Flint.
They called him from a television station, and then the camera pulled back as they had him on the line.
They said, we've got Newt Gingrich here, and we can have a debate.
Can tell you, everyone listening to this knows what that means, that the Atlanta Democratic liberal media that hates our guts and hates our country was working in an overdrive to try to put the so-called Republican conservative Newt Gingrich into office.
They covered up for him in all of his marital scandal, and he ran against Flint over and over again.
And finally, about the third time, Flint was getting old, and he retired, and Gingrich got elected.
But it's already in the 70s.
He was unseating conservatives, attacking people who put their country first, making himself the favored child of the Atlanta liberal power structure.
Sam, Sam.
Sam, give us one minute.
We've got a break coming up.
We're going to pick up right there Newt Gingrich and his very shady career in the Republican Party.
We'll be right back after these messages with Sam Dixon.
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And here's the host of the political cesspool, James Edwards.
The host of the political cesspool tonight is Bill Rowland.
And my guest in the third hour is the fabulous Sam Dixon.
And Sam was just discussing the early political career of the notorious Newt Gingrich, who's currently the alleged leader for the Republican nomination.
That's doubtful.
But Sam was discussing how Newt connived to win a seat from a very popular and conservative Democrat in Georgia and, in fact, proceed then to do everything the liberal establishment wanted him to do.
We'll continue, Sam.
As you said, Congressman Flint eventually retired.
Newt, after running unsuccessfully against him, finally gets the seat and then proceeds to target another conservative.
And so he's had a career of using smear campaigns against his opponents and generally low-handed tactics.
So what happens after that?
Well, he went to Congress, and he was one of the ones who helped put through the amnesty for the aliens, which helped to further undermine our immigration policies, carrying on the leftist policies of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations.
And then he became, eventually, as you know, he became the first Republican Speaker of the House since 1952.
And this was all very interesting because as the first Republican Speaker of the House, he publicly said that Franklin Roosevelt was the greatest president in American history.
Well, if you're a leftist who hates white people and hates the United States, and you've got a Republican Speaker of the House who's expressing his view that a man like Franklin Roosevelt is the greatest history, the greatest president of American history, how can you lose?
With a Republican who loves Roosevelt running the House, we don't have a team on the field.
Roosevelt, as most of your listeners will know, was a terrible president.
A man who Sovietized Central and Eastern Europe, a man who bragged that his best friends were communists, a man who frustrated the efforts to keep communists out of sensitive positions in the federal government, a man who went on national radio and lied about the Soviet Union and said there was religious freedom in the Soviet Union two weeks after the U.S. Embassy in Moscow told him that the Soviet Union had killed 200,000 Christian priests.
This is the person that Newt Gingrich says is the greatest president in American history.
And Newt Gingrich is the Republican conservative hopeful.
I don't think so.
Then, when the Republicans took control of the House, here's a little test for you, great and good Loland.
Do you remember what the immediate thing that Gingrich did after he became Speaker of the House in his contract with America gimmick, which got the Republicans the majority?
Was it the affirmative action passage of that?
No, no, it was to cooperate with Bill Clinton in calling a lame duck meeting of the Democrat-dominated Congress so they could pass NAFTA because the Republicans wouldn't pass it.
And Newt wanted to work with Clinton to make sure the Mexico-loving America-hating treaty got passed to benefit the big banker buddies that he's always pimped for.
He wanted to make sure that he and his friend Bill Clinton got Congress back into session and got that treaty through and got it approved and got all the regulations approved so that the Republican majority would not stop it.
And this is the guy who's going to be the conservative candidate for president.
Well, he's certainly touting himself as a genuine conservative, but I would think that anybody, even the most gullible political ingenue, would certainly look at his record and clearly see that he's been anything but a conservative.
Again, as I said, I mentioned his push for affirmative action was another one of his little programs.
He's been anything but a conservative.
How long do you suppose he can keep up this ruse?
Because certainly, I mean, at some point, both his marital infidelities and his disgusting family life, his personal peccadillos are going to come out, but also his phony religiosity.
Which is now Roman Catholic.
This guy, now, there's no evidence this guy has ever had any sincere religious feelings.
Now, now, working on life number three, he becomes a convert to Roman Catholicism, makes a movie with wifey number three and Betty, probably number 50, and they go around appearing in churches with a movie they prepared on the Holy Father, the Pope, and giving their witnesses about the sacred sacrament of marriage.
I mean, it is so disgusting.
It is just beyond disgusting.
Well, I'll have to say that there's a lot of, as our Jewish listeners, however a few there are, would say there's a lot of chutzpah in that religiosity at least.
Yes.
And then he, I don't know, I think it's just an amazing thing.
Obviously, there's been a lot of maneuvering behind the scenes by the media.
We need to think back on how this works.
We know that the media knew long before it came out that James Edwards had fathered this illegitimate child.
And they covered up for Edwards until his campaign was over, apparently thinking that it'd be a good thing if he could get himself elected president.
They could then use this to control him.
We know that the media knew about Svram Thurmond's black illegitimate child and for decades covered that up because apparently they must have had some sort of a deal with Thurmond where he could be controlled opposition.
And you look at these things like these scandals that have come out about Kane and the others.
I would not be at all surprised if the strings were not pulled by the right people in places like Goldman Sachs to make sure that one by one, these people rose in the polls and then teetered out so that Gingrich could come on now as the conservative hopeful against Mitt Romney.
We'd be better off with Mitt Romney.
We'd be better off with Barack Obama.
If Newt Gingrich is the nominee, I'm going to vote for Barack Obama.
Oddly enough, Sam, I've almost had the same sentiments.
I find Newt, you know, I mean, I'll give Obama this.
I'm certainly no supporter of Obama by any means, but I'll give him this.
He's certainly a better family man than Newt Gingrich by all measures.
I mean, you know, he...
Well, yes, but, I mean, actually, you know, that's a very unimportant issue.
Um...
At least in my book, we've had lots of people in history who've been unpleasant family men who have been good leaders.
And we've had people who are very devoted family men like Robespierre, who are horrible people.
But, you know, if Gingrich becomes the Republican president, then once again, like I said, we don't have a team on the field.
Just like he played petty cake with Clinton on NAFTA, he's going to play petticake with the Democrats on amnesty.
And then you're going to have a Republican president, a conservative Republican president up there saying, oh, as a conservative, we need to bring all these people in.
And he'll touch all the right bases.
Oh, these Mexicans are very devout Christians and they are social conservative.
We'll be so much better off if we add 60 million Mexicans to our country.
He won't say it that way.
He won't mention the figure of 60 million.
But that is the number of immigrants that will come in under an amnesty, even using the government's own figures that there are 12 million illegal aliens in America.
Once they become citizens, they will qualify for family reunification and all of their wives and children will come.
Sam, Sam, we've got a break.
We'll be right back for the last half hour.
Sam Dixon is my guest.
I'm Bill Rowland.
Stay tuned for the next half hour.
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We're in the home stretch.
This is Bill Rowland sitting in tonight for James Edwards on the Political Cesspool Radio Program.
And my very special and very honored guest tonight is Sam Dixon.
We've been discussing the ups and downs, mostly downs, of Newt Gingrich's political career as a Republican.
And as Sam has clearly pointed out, he is nobody's conservative, has never been a conservative, but now is claiming the mantle of the true conservative candidate in the Republican race for the presidency.
Sam, you know, what motivates somebody like Newt Gingrich?
I mean, to run as one thing, to pose as one thing, and then to do another, is it that he has some very lengthy and tangled strings attached to powerful lobbyists and powerful people who really know that he is their man, as you say, and who will do their bidding?
Well, you know, you're speaking conspiratorially.
I don't believe in a lot of conspiracy theories, but I mean, you'd be naive not to see that.
The fact that he is a former, he leaves Congress and he's given these huge amounts of money by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and these lending institutions that created the bubble and have destroyed America's housing market.
And then he comes up with something that is so embarrassingly false that, oh, they paid me all this money as a historian to advise them about history.
How can anyone believe it?
This is just an outrageous, insulting lie.
This guy was paid off by these malefactors of great wealth, to borrow a phrase from Franklin Roosevelt.
And he's their God.
And he's tied in with these people who destroyed our economy.
And we're going to make him president of the United States.
Like I was saying about NASDAQ, this is the guy who, once again, pimping for the jumped-up white trash Manhattan element of people like Goldman Sachs, brought in NAFTA to screw over the American working people so this predatory international cosmopolitan elite in New York City could make $100 million each this year instead of only $80 million.
And this is a guy who's going to represent Bedrock America.
He's just the absolute pits.
He is the worst.
And we would be better off with Barack Obama than we would be with a Newt Gingrich.
But as for Gingrich himself, I mean, remember, he's a person who has no roots anywhere.
His family moved all over America.
I think he was born in Pennsylvania, and they moved here, and they moved there, and they moved the other place.
And then he ended up in Georgia.
He went to college in Georgia.
And then he took one of our congressional seats.
He has no more connection to Georgia or loyalty to Georgia.
He has none at all.
He's a cosmopolitan.
He's a rolling stone.
He is somebody who is devoid of any kind of feeling of affection for some area that he calls home.
And you see this.
He has so little understanding of Georgia that when Liberal Governor Zell Miller proposed removing the Confederate flag for the first time, Gingrich rushed out as a congressman.
It's no business of his what the state was going to do.
But he rushed out immediately that day and got himself from the cameras to state that as a Republican, we're all for this because that Confederate flag has got to go.
And he was stunned.
I'm told by people that are around him that have told me that Gingrich was stunned when he found out that the voters in his district didn't want the flag room.
Assumed that everybody in Georgia would hate the Confederate flag because he hated it.
They would all view it the way he did as a Pennsylvania rolling stone who had moved all over the country and had no loyalty whatsoever.
But he didn't even understand Georgians.
He was not out of it.
They didn't mean anything to him.
He's probably never eaten a boiled peanut in his life.
He doesn't even know what we eat.
And so you have this guy who is this sort of sociopathic, get ahead, get ahead, go along, you know, this sort of person.
And unfortunately, in a democracy like we've got now, that kind of person, the sociopath, has a tremendous advantage in elections.
He's got a tremendous advantage for anyone that has any kind of normal connection to a region or state or loyalty to a party or to an ideology or to a people.
You put him up against a guy like Ron Paul.
I mean, Paul is of a huge disadvantage against a sociopath like Gingrich.
So, as you said, Gingrich is a rolling stone.
I mean, really, the definition in the South of a carpetbagger, you know, a man who moves to the South, gets money from various sources and then puts himself in a position of power and basically holds his constituency in utter contempt the whole time.
I mean, probably always imagining himself in a higher position, in a more powerful position, and that this is just stepping on the necks of Georgians was just the boost he would get upwards.
I don't know if you know, Sam, but I was going to ask you anyway, who are the lobbyists and who are the people who really put money in Gingrich's pocket currently?
I mean, who are his big supporters as far as corporations or individuals being able to do it?
I don't know, but I think you can tell us that it's going to be Goldman Sachs.
It's going to be the Wall Street lobbyist.
It's going to be the people that have made trillions of dollars and become multi-billionaires out of the destruction of America's housing market and the people who destroyed the equities in housing that 150 or 200 million Americans enjoyed.
You have to remember about this housing market thing.
People say, oh, we've lost so much money.
Well, no, the average person has lost so much money.
Somebody else has made a lot of money.
And these people don't want a solution to the housing problem.
And they're not, no one's really proposing any kind of solution to the housing market because they want it to go on.
They want to make more.
And you can tell that that kind of person is bankrolling Gingrich.
The media certainly gives him a free pass, and they bally who in as being so intelligent and the guy with all the ideas, what ideas?
I mean, look at the guy.
Look at the contract with America.
As Sam Francis and I were discussing one time when all that was going on, if every single provision of the contract with America that Gingrich hatched in the election, midterm elections when the Republicans took over the House of Representatives, if every single thing in the contract with America could have been enacted, that's not the thing, nothing would change.
It was all silly stuff.
It was all Conorist stuff.
We're going to pass an amendment to make it a crime to burn the federal flag.
Well, you know, I've never burned the federal flag.
I don't suppose I ever would.
And I would find it objectionable if someone did.
I've never seen anybody burn the federal flag.
I've never known anybody that ever saw anybody burn the federal flag.
Has no impact on anybody in America passing a constitutional amendment to make it a crime to burn the federal flag.
No worker is going to keep his job.
No white prisoner is going to be made safe from being sodomized in the prisons.
No neighborhood is going to be made safe from the ethnic cleansing that comes with the colonization of our country by immigration.
No one's pension is going to be preserved.
No one's equity in their home is going to be preserved.
Nothing important would have been affected by any of these gimmicks that Gingrich put out in the contract with America.
And you can count on it.
You can bank on it.
You can bank with Golden Sachs on it that if Gingrich becomes president, we will have an amnesty, just as he voted for the, just as he was a supporter of the first amnesty.
He will be one now.
He's already, now that he's out front, he's already double talking about amnesty.
Yeah, that was yesterday.
He was saying that, well, you know, we do have to have a track to citizenship.
Really?
Why?
Why do we have to have a track to citizenship for these people that don't fit into our country and who will be nothing but a burden to us for generations?
Well, certainly, I mean, he is the master of double talk.
And Gingrich has, you know, even in his current race, even in the current situation, he's been caught off guard and offhand.
But what amazes me is that he is given a pass on this marital situation on his various marriages.
As Tom Thurman was given a pass, as John Edwards was given a pass, as all of the in-crowd's pets are given a pass.
Sam, we got one more break, and we'll be back after these messages.
Sam Dixon, my guest, talking about good old Newt Gingrich, the carpetbagger from Georgia.
We'll be right back.
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Rounding up the show, last 15 minutes.
Bill Rowland sitting in for James Edwards, my guest once again, Sam Dixon, who has absolutely given us an excellent account of the political career of Newt Gingrich from the standpoint of a genuine Georgian, not a fabricated Georgian, not a self-identified Georgian like Nudi Gingrich.
Sam, you were talking for a minute about what would happen when Newt Gingrich becomes president.
You said one of the first things he would do was push through an amnesty for some 60 million illegal aliens in this country.
Based on what you know about Gingrich, what would be his first year in the presidency?
What would be his policies or his agenda for the first year, knowing what you know about him?
Well, I don't know much about him as an individual.
I knew him slightly in the 1960s when he was first trying to get on the county executive committee, and all the conservatives were against him.
But he was certainly no friend of mine.
I voted against him every time I could.
But I think you can expect exactly what we've seen, and that is that the two parties, as George Wallace said, there isn't any difference between them.
And he will carry on the same policies that Obama carried on after Bush left office.
And it will be the ⁇ you know, I don't like to call myself a conservative.
I call myself a racial communitarian.
And there are a lot of issues I agree with liberals on.
And we have to break out of this thing of assuming that everybody that calls himself a conservative is a friend of ours.
Everyone that calls himself a liberal is an enemy of ours.
We have to look at things from a different standpoint of what is best for our race and not in terms of artificial ideologies.
But you look at liberals, decent, honest liberals, who voted for Obama because he ran as the guy that was going to end the wars.
Well, did he end the wars?
Hell no.
We've got more troops overseas now than before.
Same with Bush.
Bush ran for office saying that the U.S. was not going to be the nanny state.
We weren't going to have this foreign policy of meddling.
Once he got elected, we got the same kind of foreign policy that we got from Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and all these other people.
Suddenly, we were going to go to war and all these things that are now known to have been lies that Bush knew were lies.
He carried us into these wars.
Along comes Obama.
He says he's going to do things differently.
And he made this famous statement in terms of the economy that one thing is clear, and that is you don't fix the economy with the people who broke the economy.
And then what did he do?
After he won the election, who did he line up?
The staff ministers, Goldman Sachs.
The very people under Bush who wrecked and looted the economy carried on under Obama.
He betrayed the liberals on that.
He betrayed them on the war.
And Gingrich is going to do the same thing because all of these people, like Bush, Obama, Gingrich, they're all part and parcel of the same thing.
And what we have to do is to try to educate our people that you don't have to be for one of these parties or for one of these candidates.
In fact, you should not be for any of them.
That there isn't some necessity that people should get all excited about Newt Gingrich and getting Obama out.
No.
We need to build our own institutions like the political cesspool and things like this.
We need to build our own schools.
We need to build our own communities.
And we just need to accept it, that it really you should not get your blood pressure up.
One point over whether or not Obama beats McCain or Newt Gingrich beats Obama.
None of these people are playing for us.
We don't have a team on the field.
And you need to just save your money and not buy the football ticket.
I'm going to ask you, we've only got a few minutes left here, Sam, and I'm going to make it a little fun here.
I'm going to ask you about one of your fellow Georgians who made a spectacular rise and a very sudden tumble, Herman Cain, who, by the way, is actually from my hometown, Memphis, Tennessee.
He's not even from Georgia.
But almost an amusing playout, a kabuki with racial dimensions played out with Herman Cain.
No, I don't know much about him.
I don't think there's much to know.
He's obviously not qualified to be president of the United States.
And the truly pathetic thing is all these conservatives that have been so excited about Kane, the big votes he's gotten in caucuses of conservative activists and stuff.
What this shows us is that these people are psychologically severely wounded.
They are casualties in the psychological war that has been waged there against them.
And they have been so whipped over being racist and accused of racism and all this sort of stuff that he was like a means of redemption.
By being for Kane, they could be redeemed.
It's really pathetic.
I mean, how could it like anyone that would believe Gingrich's lie that he was paid all this money by the Freddie Mack and the Fannie Mae mortgage-broking brokerage institutions to tell them about American history?
I mean, you have to be equally dumb to believe a whopper like that or to believe, to deceive yourself, that Herman Cain is qualified to be president of the United States.
I mean, this is just a joke.
Well, certainly his candidacy is the laughingstock of the media right now.
I mean, he took a very great tumble.
But, you know, the interesting thing to me, Sam, is, of course, I agree with you entirely about the psychological damage white people have suffered over the years and now just desperate to prove that they're colorblind.
I've never known that colorblindness to be a desirable characteristic anyway.
And I think it's kind of a funny thing that people say, oh, I'm colorblind.
Well, you know, my grandfather was colorblind.
He never considered that to be a great blessing.
But in any event, you will not remember this because you were too little a child to remember.
But one of the funniest things, at times, the establishment parodies itself and does things that are laughable.
The problem being that hardly anyone sees how funny they are.
But in the effort to get the 1964 civil rights bill passed, they had a picture of two blind children, a blind white boy and a blind black boy.
And they had this big poster of it.
And under it, they reproduced it in the 1964 Almanac.
And under these pictures, these two blind kids, it said, the blind are also colorblind.
I thought it was a joke.
And I realized they actually meant it seriously, and people took it seriously.
It'd be like showing two kids that were stone deaf sitting next to a cement grinder and saying the deaf can't distinguish between the Atlanta Symphony and a cement grinder.
It's just ludicrous.
Well, it is the Herman Kane phenomenon.
It struck me because of the immediate surge in his popularity just because he was black.
And the Tea Party was sort of attached to Kane.
I don't know how really close they were to him.
But again, it came down to these rather suspicious poll numbers being generated.
But I do know that Herman Kane got his start, his big boost from a straw poll in Florida.
And the Republican Party in Florida, probably like the Republican Party in Georgia, has a distinctive ethnic characteristic and leaning that clearly got Kane going in his candidacy.
And these were not Gentiles.
I'll put it that way.
I don't know about that.
I think that they probably were Gentiles.
I think that they probably were Christians who desperately needed absolution.
And Cain gave them a chance to be forgiven.
The Georgia Republican Party is certainly not Jewish.
I mean, it's a wasp thing, but it's always been a buckhead Atlanta establishment party that would rather have a liberal Democrat like Jim Mackey representing the 4th District, to go back to what we were talking about initially, than to have a genuine Republican conservative like Ben Blackburn the other day.
It's always basically been run by people like Rodney Cook, the founder of the Atlanta Human Relations Council, and people like that.
They've been the ones that have really called the shots in the Georgia Republican Party, far more, I think, than in the case of the Florida Republican Party.
I think the Florida Party probably has a lot more legitimate commitment to things than the Georgia Republican Party.
Well, I was thinking about Derek Black's predicament in Florida when he...
Oh, yeah, well, that was down in Palm Beach.
And yes, that was exactly the case of a Jew overturning democracy to see that the person who was chosen in the election was not Stephen.
Sam, we're out of time.
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
And I'd like to say a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of our listeners.
If I don't get to say it again, good night, everybody, and happy landings.