July 17, 2010 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
What a great night we've had so far.
Welcome back to the third and final hour of tonight's live broadcast.
It's Saturday evening, July 17th, and you're in the Political Cesspool.
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I want to thank my co-hosts Keith Alexander and Bill Rowland for sharing with me their talents tonight as we have really been hammering it hard this evening.
It's been a wonderful show, but the best is still forthcoming.
Tonight's third hour is going to be particularly dynamic as we welcome back to the program in tandem, a tandem appearance, Kevin McDonald and Bill Johnson.
Dr. Kevin McDonald is a professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach.
He is the author of seven books on evolutionary psychology and child development and is the author or editor of over 30 academic titles.
Bill Johnson is an international corporate lawyer practicing in Los Angeles, California.
He holds both an undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University where he majored in Japanese and a law degree from Columbia University.
Both men are leaders of the newly formed American Third Position.
They serve on the board of directors as do I and they are here with us tonight to promote the party and talk about the news it has made in recent weeks.
Gentlemen, welcome back to the show.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Kevin, you know, we got a lot to talk about.
Bill, great to have you back on too.
By the way, Winston Smith is co-hosting with me this hour.
I want to always welcome my friend and colleague to the show.
Winston, how are you?
I'm very well, James.
I'm really looking forward to this interview with these two gentlemen, two very esteemed gentlemen who have, I know Dr. McDonald, who graced the cesspool before.
And it's always my great pleasure to listen to you, Dr. McDonald, and also to read your writing, sir.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
One such article written by Kevin can be found at his website, theOccidentalObserver.net.
It is a blistering reply to one of the most biased, and this is saying a lot, one of the most biased pieces of trash that has ever been passed as journalism that appeared in the New York Daily News last week, and it pertained to the American Third Position.
Kevin, why don't you give us a little bit of information about what that article contained and your excellent rebuttal to it?
Well, the article purported to be about the candidacy of Mr. Murdo, who's running for the state senate up in Vermont.
But it was just an absolutely trashy piece.
The main thing that was immediately offensive was this photo of this guy with a Nazi salute and a swatcha tattoo in the back of his head.
This photo has nothing to do with the American third position.
And it's just astonishing that a mainstream newspaper would go would sink to the depths of putting this photo up there.
I mean, and that, you know, this calls, you know, this white supremacist platform and racist and all this stuff is just outrageous.
Well, I'm going to allow Bill Johnson in just a moment to, for the record, state exactly that which the American Third Position advocates.
But before we do that, yeah, Kevin, you know, that was the most jaw-dropping aspect of this article, if you want to call it that.
It contained all of the hit pieces that the politically astute among us might expect.
It denounced the very sensible policies of the American Third Position as white supremacist, neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, so on and so forth, racist, blah, blah, blah.
But what I have not seen to date is that they would take what appears to be just a random stock photo of someone with a shaven head in a Nazi swastika tattooed on the back of it and lead its readers to believe that that was someone associated with the party because it was, in fact, the party, the American Third Position, and the candidacy of Ron Murdah, who is running for state representative under the party's banner in Massachusetts.
It leads the readers to believe that this is him.
That is low even for people of their questionable moral standards, Kevin.
It's unbelievable.
I can't think of any other example in the mainstream media when they've just been so blatantly biased.
I mean, to associate us with this kind of imagery is just absolute rock bottom.
I mean, you might expect that from the ADL or the Southern Poverty Law Center.
This is something maybe that they would, some of the chicaneries that they might practice.
But this was the New York Daily News.
And I don't say that as if it's something to be praised, but you would expect a venerable organization like that that they have been around a long time to have a little more integrity.
Yeah, let me juxtapose, let me state something right now.
If you juxtapose that article with some of the other articles that have been written about us in other logs and journals, take the example, for example, the recent one by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
It is nowhere near as inflammatory as that mainstream media article.
So I don't know whether this is a trend or this was just a rogue reporter or a rogue editor who put that photo in there, but it was indeed shocking.
But we also will get some measured comments from other journals, and so it won't all be bad.
No, of course not.
And it isn't all bad.
I mean, the reason why the American Third Position is being attacked this viciously is because it has a star that is certainly rising.
I mean, this is a party, as I said before, for the record, I am proudly a member of the board of directors of this organization.
And I don't affix my name, as I'm sure Bill Johnson and Kevin McDonald don't, to anything that I don't think is of the utmost moral standing.
And this is something that I'm very excited about.
The direction of this party that it's taking is very encouraging.
And if you just go to the website, I will tell you, go to American3P.org.
Do us a favor, American3P.org.
There is not a more professional or well-structured website on the internet today.
But it wasn't just the New York Times, Kevin.
The Huffington Post, not that they're certainly of substance, but they also had pictures of, I guess, skinheads, for lack of a better word, and made it appear as though these were people associated with the party.
And they're not.
But you wrote an excellent rebuttal.
And before I bring Winston into the conversation, I'd like for you to basically just give folks the gist of your reply.
Well, yes, the Huffington Post also had a flag with a swastika on.
I had people giving a Nazi salute.
And besides that, it was just a matter of calling us racist, hate groups, white supremacists, and so on.
And in my article, I simply said that we completely reject those kind of labels.
In fact, there's somebody who actually wrote a book called Racism-Schmacism, as I recall.
Yeah, I heard of him.
I've heard of him.
He heard of him?
Yeah.
Very good book, by the way.
Thank you.
It's a scandalous tome.
And the point is that, you know, that's a good, you know, your book is exactly right on exactly on the message here, that when you keep all these labels around, when they start to think that they're not winning an argument, when they can't actually deal with the very real concerns that our party is trying to address, then they just make these labels.
And I do think that these articles were so over the top.
It seemed to me that these people really are kind of worried here that there really could be a third, some kind of very important political movement coming out of this that really addresses the very real concerns that white Americans have and should have about what this country is heading towards.
Well, again, you know, I couldn't agree more.
And that is, of course, their tried and true tactic.
And they continue to employ it so often because it has been, unfortunately, effective.
They attempt to make an individual or an organization radioactive by calling them all sorts of names that aren't applicable.
And sadly, it does have an effect, or at least it used to.
I think that now more and more disenfranchised white Americans are beginning to wake up to these tactics and not be inhibited by them anymore.
When we come back, we're going to be talking with Bill Johnson about exactly what the party stands for, its goals and ambitions, and the two-time Olympic gold medalist who recently joined the cause, so to speak.
And Winston Smith has questions for both gentlemen as well.
All that still to come.
When we come back, we're going to finish up speaking with Dr. McDonald about some of the media reaction and the reaction, the official stance of the party to these attacks.
And I know Winston has been studiously preparing for this interview tonight.
So we're going to get to that at the top of the next segment, then move into Chairman Bill Johnson and his take on the party's positions and goals.
Exciting news, ladies and gentlemen.
Again, while we're going into this commercial break, if you're listening to us online and not driving around in the car, listening to us on the AM or FM radio dial, go to American3P.org and check it out.
I tell you, they really put their best foot forward on the website.
It is incredible.
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Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen, joined by an all-star tandem this evening, Dr. Kevin McDonald and Bill Johnson as we discuss the American third position, the country's fastest rising star in terms of a political party that seeks to represent the interests of European Americans.
And Winston Smith here with me now.
We were talking a little bit about the attention, the attacks from the mainstream media that the party has received.
That is certainly something that we should all celebrate because you don't get attacked by entities like the New York Daily News unless you're doing something that they are worried about and for good reason.
That being said, and we've got much more positive news surrounding the party in terms of their direction and people who have joined the bandwagon.
But I'm going to turn it over to Winston to continue this interview with Kevin and Bill.
Winston?
Thank you, James.
Gentlemen, this is a real pleasure.
As I said before, I admire your work immensely, and I have very high hopes for the American Third Position Party.
When I looked at this article from the New York Daily News, I was absolutely aghast at the propaganda shock value of that piece of garbage.
And I thought that if we at the political sex pool were to do similar types of reporting, if we can even call it that, we would probably write an article about Abe Foxman of the ADL and show pictures from the Armenian genocide, or we would write an article about Benjamin Jellice of the NAACP and show pictures of the murderers of Shannon Christian and Chris Newsom.
Now, this article looks to be utter libel.
This is libelous as you can get, it looks to me.
But is there any legal recourse you have against this?
And if not, what is the next step?
Well, there are theories under which you could mount a lawsuit and have causes of action, but really the press has broad freedoms, and you would have a difficult time making a case because the first thing that you'd say is, well, have other people leveled similar accusations against the party?
And the answer would have to be yes.
And could you prove malice on the part of the press to print this article?
I think it would be very hard to prove malice.
So even though there are legal theories under which you could make a cause of action, I think the best approach is to just stand above the fray and be a shining example to all peoples.
And eventually, there'll be some positive press also.
And that's certainly, as far as I'm concerned, what the American Third Position is doing.
And so for the record, all the negative press, which we can't control, which will inevitably come when you're dealing with an entity that is powerful and gaining traction.
For the record, Bill, what is the American Third Position?
What are its policies?
What does it stand to advocate for?
What's its direction?
Well, we have our platform covers all of the major topics that are current today, but the one that most people focus in on is the mission statement, that states that the American Third Position exists to represent the political interests of white Americans.
That seems to be the catchphrase that drives all these articles, drives all the interest, because, frankly, we're the only ones that are standing bold in that regard.
The programs itself, though, they are neither left nor right, neither conservative or liberal or Democratic or Republican.
We take basically every issue, whether it's the economy or education or the environment.
We take a position that is basically free from the typical mindsets of those two polarized views, and we reach our own reasoned decision on that.
And I'm surprised at how many particularly young people who haven't been entrenched in the polemics of the left and the right can embrace our views.
And so I mean, if you have any particular questions, I mean, immigration, of course, we want to stop immigration.
That's really changing the face of our nation.
But it covers every area.
Winston?
As I was look I go to the American Third Position Party website frequently just because it's so well done and it's always got something on there that makes me think.
And as I was listening to you there and as I read the mission statement of the A3P, I thought of a line from William Brassberry, who's a columnist for the Washington Post, and he's an African in America there at the Washington Post.
And he wrote this a while back, quote, it's always illegitimate for white men to organize as white men, unquote.
And that just kind of really says the disadvantage under which we find ourselves laboring.
We cannot organize for our own interests, but I'm just so proud and so happy that the American Third Position Party is doing just that and doing so fearlessly and obviously having an effect to elicit this kind of response from a rag like the New York Daily News.
Yeah, but I guess the flip side of that is it's tragic that we even need to do that this generation because previous generations it never had to be done because when I was born we were born into a country with dramatically different demographics than we have now and it was not a necessary approach.
Now it is.
I completely agree with that.
This is the thing that the establishment media has sort of absolutely brainwashed people with, that any assertion of white identity or white interests is completely something that is beyond the pale.
You cannot do it.
And if you do it, you are immoral, you're evil, and all that.
And yet everybody knows that every other ethnic group is organized.
They're pushing their interests.
They have these lobbying groups.
You have Jewish lobbying groups.
You have Mexican, you have black and everything else.
The basic bottom line is if white Americans don't play this game, we're simply going to lose.
And it's a no-brainer that this is something that is completely normal, natural thing to do for everybody.
So I think these people are afraid that this very logical, obvious argument is going to be very persuasive in the long run.
Well, I appreciate you, Kevin, for pointing out the utter hypocrisy and double standards that are in play here.
This party gets attacked, as this program does, for doing exactly the same thing that so-called minority groups do, and that's advocate for their own self-interest.
At least in our case, not at the expense of anyone else, perhaps in their case.
But nevertheless, American Third Position, it's a party whose time has come.
There is no other political party out there organizing in such a way and in such a professional way to use the word again.
And it's obviously gaining traction, making a lot of news for its support of the Arizona immigration law, which that in and of itself is one of the greatest pieces of legislation that has come into being.
And with the help of the American Third Position, perhaps similar measures could be enacted in other states, perhaps by our very own candidates.
Bill, would you like to comment about that?
Well, yes, I think we made a contribution to the Arizona effort, and that generated some publicity there.
Of course, it was negative.
But basically, we are seeing battles on many different fronts from many different organizations, some even at the highest level of state government, promoting principles that we espouse and that we promote.
And so we want to band and join together and help them all.
And it does not help the cause of the opposition when they label the governor of Arizona as racist, when they label the Tea Party people as racist.
Pretty soon they're going to wear out that term, as you've mentioned in your book, that really it's losing its cachet.
It's losing its political value.
And so I think that we support everybody, and eventually we will have traction, and we will achieve our aims.
Winston, I know we're coming up close on break.
I want to give you the opportunity to opine.
Well, never mind.
There's the break.
We'll let Winston start right after this.
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We're back with Dr. Kevin McDonald and Mr. Bill Johnson of the American Third Position Party.
Gentlemen, I'd like to ask you about the nitty-gritty, where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.
Now, the goal of any political party is to field candidates and to win elections.
What are the American Third Position's goals in running candidates?
Where are you finding your candidates?
And are there any candidates out there?
Kevin, do you want to address that?
Well, we're certainly looking for that.
And I think we're still in the very early stages.
We're still sort of deciding on changing our methods to try to really get really good people.
And one of the ideas that people have talked about is having training seminars.
We can get people to talk about these issues appropriately, to phrase our concerns in terms of, say, conflicts of interest.
We certainly don't want to use language that suggests hate or something like that.
So certainly the candidacy of Mr. Murdoch is very important.
And if anyone wants to make a contribution, by the way, if you go to our website, there's a place where you can go and make contributions, and that would be certainly very appreciated.
But Mr. Murdoch's our first candidate, and we'll see how it goes.
We're trying to provide some money and some backing for him.
And I think it's been very, very worthwhile, getting our message out there.
Certainly the idea that we're going to win elections is not the most important thing at first.
I think the most important thing is getting our message out there, getting people used to hearing it, and making people say, well, maybe there's something to it.
This guy is sounding reasonable.
He's sounding articulate.
He's got some good arguments.
And he's got some very important, real concerns that face all of white America.
Mr. Johnson, if somebody wanted to run as an A3P candidate, what should they do?
Well, they should contact us and they can contact us through the website, and then we're putting into place a committee to review those people who want to run.
And then we need to vet them to make sure, I mean, we appreciate all the enthusiasm, but we must make sure that they do so in a professional and an even-tempered way.
Some people don't really, they want to use candidacy as a platform to espouse views that won't make our movement go forward, but will really bring disrepute to us.
So we have to be careful on that.
And then also you get some rabble-rousers, some infiltrators who are just trying to be agent provocateurs.
So what we want to do is people that want to run, they can contact us and we will review their candidacy and if their approach is appropriate, then we will endorse them and have them move forward.
And this is the first step.
They will usually run as independents or members of another party.
And then as we get ballot qualified in the various states, they will actually have the American third position on their election ballots.
Dr. McDonald, if somebody wants to set about establishing an American third position chapter in their city or town or state, how should they go about that?
Well, again, I would suggest contacting people on our website and getting involved and talking to the people there and the board of directors and so on.
Because again, there is a concern about people who just want to be agent provocateurs, you know, and we have to be very concerned about that.
So we have to be a little skeptical, but at the same time, be very open because I do think that the candidates will pop up, that there are quite a few articulate, talented people that we would certainly love to support and get involved with in organizing chapters and establishing political campaigns, making contributions.
People, in general, one of my messages is that everybody has to say to himself, what can I do?
If I have money, I should be contributing.
If I have time, I should be organizing.
If I am a good speaker, I should be a political candidate or try to be that kind of thing.
So we all have to think about what we can do, and we're certainly open to all kinds of ideas and people who are interested.
So you don't want candidates who might come goose-stepping up to the A3P headquarters door, but at the same time, you don't want Alvin Green.
Our concern is that people will say, well, I want to be a candidate, and then we endorse them, and then all of a sudden they start running off at the mouth or doing Nazi salutes or having swatskins on their head or something like that.
And that would be a disaster.
So we have to be very careful because the mainstream media and the Southern Poverty Law Center and so on, these people are just looking for any little mistake, any little statement that doesn't sound quite right.
They will pounce on it and accentuate it.
And they'll try to top everybody in the movement with what that person said.
So we have to be very concerned about guilt by association.
I mean, if a Democrat or some other member of the mainstream party says something, People do not in general say, well, the whole party's like that.
But with us, that's going to be the case.
We're going to be tarred and stereotyped by the actions of just one person or a very few people.
So we have to be very careful about that.
What plans do you have for mobilizing and utilizing such mass communications as well, the internet, obviously, and YouTube, things like Twitter and Facebook.
I don't think Facebook is going to allow you since the thing is run by a Jew anyhow.
So they booted off our Facebook.
So what are your plans for utilizing these tools?
Well, we do have a good website, and we are using YouTube more and more.
And people in large numbers are viewing our YouTube posted videos.
And we have plans.
Our conference recently was taped, and we have, I guess, Ron Paul's videographer is putting everything together, and that will be put out on YouTube.
And ultimately, we'll use the other technologies as they come forth.
What is the name of your YouTube channel?
I don't know.
Can somebody just go to YouTube channel?
We post these videos.
Can they just go to YouTube and put in American Third Position or A3P or something like that?
Yeah, that's what I always do.
I'm sure you'll find it if you do a search on YouTube.
You mentioned a conference earlier.
Do you have plans for conferences in the near future or meetings of any sort?
We have a big conference that is in the planning stages that we hope to hold at a university setting that will address the importance of third parties in addressing the problems of America today.
And we hope to have that done in a few months.
I have to say, pro-white conferences and meetings on university campuses don't have a good history of success.
Why will this one?
Well, it's kind of being spearheaded by someone who has a highly regarded reputation, at least among people my age and older.
And we're confident that we're going to be able to bring in a lot of different people with a lot of different views because the third-party movement embraces people from many different spectrums and many different wings.
And so we think that we will sponsor it, and then we will not only have our views heard, but we'll have divergent views heard from people who've run on third-party platforms from other parties.
And we think that it will be good for the public.
And I think the free speech will prevail, and we'll be able to put it on with a minimum amount of difficulty.
Bill, Kevin Winston, you just mentioned, and we're going to get into this into greater detail in the forthcoming and final segment of the evening.
The American Third Position, for numerous reasons, has been able to attract people of, contrary to that which the media might portray, the absolute highest of caliber.
And one such person just happens to be a two-time Olympic gold medalist.
We're going to find out more information about that and how that came to be, how he came to be in the fold of the American Third Position, how his support arrived at the party's doorstep.
That story Coming up in the next segment, which will leave us on a very positive note as this program and this party continues to stride toward the future.
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Final segment tonight.
And it's been an informative program to be sure.
Kevin McDonald and Bill Johnson, both of the American Third Position.
Kevin McDonald is a member of the board of directors, as am I. Bill Johnson is the chairman of the party.
If you've not yet made up your mind to join the party and be a part of this effort, I encourage you to do so.
And if you go to the website, American3P.org, you will find out very quickly why you should be a part of this movement.
They're putting the best foot forward.
This is a political party.
This is not an issue advocacy organization.
The goal of the American Third Position is to positively influence the American political arena by advancing issues of importance to European Americans.
Their goal is to run candidates that will win office, and by doing so, gain power that will benefit those who subscribe to our very America-first viewpoints.
One such person just happens to be one of America's heroes, the first spokesman for Wheaties.
He was the first gentleman who ever had his face appear on a box of Wheaties cereal.
He has joined the American Third Position effort, and Bill Johnson can give you more information about that.
Very good story that can be read tonight on the American Third Position website.
Bill, why don't you start from the beginning and lead us up to present day?
Who is this two-time Olympic gold medalist?
Well, Bob Richards, when I was a child growing up in the 50s and early 60s, he was more than just an Olympic champion.
He was one of the premier sports heroes in America.
Not only was he on the face of Wheaties, but he was just a spokesman speaking inspirational speeches throughout the United States.
He had 40 million school children would watch his promotional videos.
And I remember watching them when I was in school.
I mean, I'd be wearing my Gene Autry t-shirt and watching films by Bob Richards.
So he was really a hero.
So I was looking on the internet and I was reading his information on and I googled him and I saw that he was the presidential candidate for the Reform Party in the 80s.
And I go, wow, that's great.
He's politically involved and he's sympathetic.
So I called, I sent a letter to him and I also called and I talked to his wife and his wife says, well, he's old and he doesn't do these interviews anymore.
And so I follow up and sent a letter and about three weeks later he called me up and he talked to me for about half an hour.
He was asking what the third, asked me all about the American Third Position and what we stood for and he was saying his views.
And so he said, you know, this country is really falling apart.
We need to do something.
I need to give some speeches.
Well, he invited me out to his place to talk about it, so I went over to his home in Texas.
His front yard is two miles long.
I mean, he's got thousands and thousands of acres.
And they're the most gracious man, he and his wife, and we talked for three hours, and we decided what we need to do is we need to put on a seminar and maybe even a series of seminars at a university setting that invites third-party presidential and vice presidential candidates from the last few years to give their views on how third parties are important in moving to resolving America's problems today.
And so it will be sponsored by the American Third Position, but we hope it'll be administered by the League of Women Voters.
And we're going to have views, not just people who support the American Third Position, but we hope to have people like Ralph Nader and some of the other, and even Bob Richards was even talking about having Colin Powell on there.
See, he knows a lot of these people, and he hasn't maintained contact with them so much, but if we can provide him with the contact information, he'll call and do this selling point that he's kind of putting this seminar on, and he wants people to be on stage with him.
And he is confident that he will be able to get a lot of heavy hitters in the third-party movement to appear on a forum, even if it is sponsored by A3P, to discuss these very important issues.
And I told him, you know, if we start putting this out and announce it, there's going to be all sorts of calumny, all sorts of opposition, all sorts of name-calling.
He says, our country's falling apart.
We need to do it.
Put it out there.
Tell them what we're doing.
Don't hide anything.
Get me the numbers, and I'll contact them, and let's put this together.
And if it falls through, it's not going to fall through completely because I'm going to get some people to speak.
I'll speak.
You'll speak.
Other people, Kevin McDonald will speak, and we'll put it on.
So the only drawback right now is he's waiting for me to get these numbers, and I'm having a hard time getting contact numbers for the right people.
But we're going to get them together, and Bob Richards is going to do the yeoman's effort of trying to line them up, and we'll have it at a university setting, maybe in Texas.
Well, see, now to me, Bill and Kevin, when you got the first spokesman for Weedies, when you got a two-time Olympic gold medalist, this is the kind of people, people of this caliber, this is the kind of people that the American Third Position is attracting.
And it's all on the record.
Not only have you said it here, I mean, Bob Richards has said it openly that he is joining up with the American Third Position to work with this party because he sees the promise there.
And it's on the American Third Position website.
The article is, it seems as though if there was any, which we know there's not, but if there was any objectivity at all in the mainstream media, this would be a news story.
This would be a news story, not all of this ranting and biased name-calling that we see from the New York Daily Times.
An American legend like Bob Richards, that's a news story.
James, it'll be a news story if we actually hold the seminar and it's a success.
Then that will be the beginning of a lot more seminars.
And we'll hold them at other places as well.
So it is really incumbent upon us to put this first one together and make it work.
And I'm confident.
I think that we can make it work.
I think one of the most important sources of power in the mainstream media is that people who advocate white interests are stereotyped, as skin-headed, as stupid, as uneducated.
So it's very important for us to have people like Bob Richards, people who are educated, people who are well-known, outstanding, moral, accomplished, and so on, who will advocate and actually get involved in what we're trying to do.
I think it's very important.
Well, if the endorsement of Kevin McDonald, well, we've done more than endorse it.
We've joined the party in leadership capacities no less.
Kevin McDonald, Bill Johnson, myself, Winston Smith, if that isn't enough to pique your interest, maybe the fact that Bob Richards has joined in such a public way will.
Ladies and gentlemen, the website, again, is American3P.org.
Www.americon3p.org.
There you can read more about the American Third Position, its platform and perhaps even join as a member.
All that can be done online at Americon3p.org.
We've got about a minute left, two minutes maybe Winston, I want to turn it over to you for a final question or comment.
Oh well, it took me by surprise, James.
I just want to again thank uh dr Mcdonald and mr Johnson for their time and for their effort in uh starting the American Threep, UH uh Party, and I look forward to being of service to you.
I have to say also there's um.
Besides uh James, uh um and myself as members of the board of directors.
There's also dr Tom Sunich, who's also very, you know, well read he's, he's written oh yes, absolutely books and so on.
So again, we're trying to get the image out there of the American third position as people who are educated articulate, who are intelligent and why do you have James on there opposed to the stereotype that the media wants to produce.
And that photo in the article that we're talking about is exactly the sort of thing that they want to stereotype us as a bunch of goose, stepping people with, with swatches tattooed on their heads, and that that's just that's what they're trying to do, but it is completely false and people understand that I think pretty soon.
Well, they do, Kevin uh Bill, a final word from you.
We've got about 30 seconds, okay.
The one of the strongest things we have to offer, beyond our politics and our platform, is the fact that the leadership, both national and local, are all on the same page and we're all working together without contention.
I have never been involved in a political organization where there is such unanimity among everybody, at ever, every level.
We're running like a machine and there's no egos.
There's no.
You know, we work throughout any sort of difficulties that arise.
I'm just so impressed.
It runs better than any social organization that i've ever been involved in, much less a political organization, and that is a key for our growth.
Gentlemen, dr Mcdonald, chairman Johnson, I want to thank you all for making yourself available tonight.
Winston, it's always my honor and privilege to work with you buddy, and thanks for coming on and and helping me this hour.
I look forward to uh another show next week with you and our UH confederates here in the Political Cesspool radio program, uh Bill Rolland, Eddie The Bombetter, Miller and Keith Alexander.
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