April 17, 2010 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I tell you, I am chomping at the bit to get started with the rest of the show now.
A great first hour, as always, with Keith Alexander this evening.
Welcome back to the Political Cesspool Radio Program as we kick off the second of three hours tonight in our live installment of our award-winning program.
It's Saturday, April the 17th, Confederate History Month, 2010.
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Bill Rowland now joining me out of the Political Cesspool All-Star Stable of Talent.
Bill, how are you?
James, I'm Whistling Dixie.
I don't know about you, but it's a beautiful night here in Memphis, as you know, and I'm enjoying this evening.
And of course, I'm always delighted to be on the show.
And we've got a lot to talk about, and I'm celebrating Confederate History Month by, I guess, telling my children various things about the South and the Confederacy and Confederate heroes.
And, you know, I want to get into, we need to talk about this.
We need to emphasize this over the air because it's being largely ignored mostly around the South.
I know you've got a letter you want to read on the air that is from one of our listeners, and it's a delightful letter in the sense that it makes us happy to know that even many years after the war, state officials considered the Confederacy and Confederates to be true heroes and really noble knights for our noble cause.
Well, Bill, thank you kindly for setting me up so wonderfully to present this letter.
Yes, indeed, as Bill mentioned, we did receive a letter from a political cesspool listener, Stephen McGeehee.
And what he sent to us was a scanned copy, a scanned image of a letter sent to his great-grandmother from the comptroller's office from the state of Florida.
And this is, again, on our website.
We put it up today.
If you go to thepolitical cesspool.org, you'll be able to read it for yourself.
And what this article does is it brings into sharp focus just how far we've fallen here in America.
You'll find a bit of real-life history here in this letter.
It's a letter, as I mentioned, from the comptroller of the state of Florida that accompanied the Confederate veterans pension check to the great-grandmother, as I mentioned, of a listener of this program who was by that time, December of 1933, a widow.
The language that I'm about to read to you praises the ideals of the lost cause, and they're words that you will never hear pass the lips of a politician today.
The difference in attitudes of public officials between then and now is indeed staggering.
But here's what the letter, the short letter, has to say, again, written from the comptroller of the state of Florida to Mrs. Sarah McGeehee, December 20th, 1933.
I consider it quite fortunate on my part in being selected as the official charged with the responsibility of mailing you the enclosed pension check.
It is a rare privilege and a pleasure to forward you this token of appreciation from the great state of Florida.
I sincerely wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a surprisingly happy new year.
Personally, I feel a debt of gratitude owing you by the Commonwealth of this state cannot be estimated in material wealth and therefore cannot be composed of mere payment of money.
It is a liability that cannot be expressed in dollars, but it can be enshrined in the sacred archives of tradition.
And by teaching the succeeding generations that by your actions, experience, and devotion to a sacred principle, you have proved that God does not force us into deep water to drown us, but to cleanse us.
And that adversity is the trial of principle without which one hardly knows whether or not he is honest, unless, like those who fought for the Confederacy, he is sorely tried, smelted, polished, and glorified in the furnace of our tribulation.
If we remain true to our ideals and steadfast to our principles, as exemplified by those who followed the stars and bars, we are reminded that honor is likened to certain herbs and flowers.
They send forth their most delightful odors only after they have been crushed and broken.
Therefore, we should, all of us, profit from the experience and example of you brave souls who have conquered discouragement and despair and have, phoenix-like, risen from the dead ashes of destitution and want to the heights of honor, peace, and tranquility.
May that one, in whose honor we observe Christmas, comfort and keep you, very sincerely, J.M. Lee, Comptroller, state of Florida.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you want to read that letter for yourself again, you can read an original scanned copy at thepolitical Cesspool.org.
And again, many thanks to Political Successful listener Stephen McGeehee for bringing this stirring letter to our attention.
Bill, what happened to the country?
No, a country is a place.
What happened to the nation?
What happened to the people that used to produce folks like that?
James, over the years, unfortunately, prosperity brings a certain degree of cowardice to a nation.
The more prosperous a nation becomes, the more people want to defend material goods, material things, monetary things, instead of defending those virtues and those qualities which make a man, which make a nation.
And so by virtue of this, over the years, people have become more concerned about the car they drive, the house they live in, the schools they send their children to, the clothes they wear, all the material and superficial things over the essential things, family, tribe, faith, and tradition.
And so, you know, when you have misguided principles and you have misguided ideals, those things which are really truly valuable, those things which are truly worth saving and preserving, become contemptible.
And I think that's why what we see happening, particularly with the memorialization and the commemoration of the Confederacy, there is a stench of contempt coming out of people about those things which they know they can't duplicate.
They know they're not part of something that is greater than their small-minded attitudes about what they own, what they possess, the job they have, and their own prestige.
And so over the years, you know, people have become to reject those things, which are valuable to maintaining us as a people, to maintaining our culture and our civilization and our families and our traditions and all the things that are truly valuable have no dollar value at all.
And they're the simplest things to preserve, but the hardest things to keep.
Because naturally, the system that wants to displace these things is a materialistic system.
It's a system that says you're only as good as the things you own.
You're only as good as the job you have.
Your career and your education are tantamount to everything else.
And most of all is your devotion to the beloved state, which is going to take care of you in your old age, which is going to be a world power, which is going to be all-conquering all over the earth.
And this kind of false patriotism is what has really misled people away from the things that really belong to them, their heritage, their background, their family, their tribe, and yes, their race.
And so, you know, as we become richer, we become poorer in the sense of we lose ourselves to gain what?
To gain those things which we can't take with us and which we really can't pass on except for a few generations.
Now, James, I'm sure you know, as I know, something of our family history.
We know our genealogies.
We know the great things that our Confederate ancestors did in terms of sacrifice for their homes and their people.
And those things cannot be duplicated by the car you drive or the house you live in or the admiration you get from people at work.
Those things can't be duplicated.
And so we try to carry them on as long as we can.
But they're irreplaceable unless we do those things ourselves.
And not many people are willing to do that.
Not many people are willing to make the sacrifice that Confederate soldier made to protect his land, his people, his race, and his faith as well.
Bill Rowland, everybody, Bill Rowland, I mean, is he great or is he great?
Puts, once again, under the spotlight one of many examples of why this radio program stands head and shoulders above all competition.
You will not find a wordsmith like Bill Rowland on any other radio show, and everything he said spoke directly to my heart and hopefully to yours as well, as did that letter that I read to you before.
I don't think I can make too much of it.
We've got just a couple of seconds left.
We're going to come back and do more, but go to that website.
Go to our website, thepolitical cesspool.org, and read that letter.
So beautifully written, so poetic.
You know, it's just, it makes you feel good to read something like that coming from a state official.
He knew then, 1933 in Florida, they still had their priorities straight.
It was still duty on our country.
Now, not so much.
And we're going to be talking much more about that.
I just wanted to start this hour with something uplifting.
And certainly Bill Rowland provided the punctuation mark to that.
But that letter from the state of Florida to the widow of a Confederate veteran, it's just, it's just, it's perfect.
And we'll be back with more that isn't so perfect as the political cesspool continues right after this on the Liberty News Radio Network.
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Now, Bill, in the last segment, you mentioned the importance of family, the love and reverence we have for our ancestors, and how it's so dear to us.
And I wrote that, in fact, you mentioned it compared to what's placed on a pedestal in this day and age, money and cars and prestige, status, etc.
I wrote in so many words in a blog entry just last month that I had considered myself a winner of the genetic lottery to have been born as a son of the South, to have been a descendant of a Confederate veteran.
And that truly is, Bill.
People might think I'm just saying this, you know, doing my part, saying, as Gwen Beck says he does, saying what the audience wants to hear.
But I mean this with every fiber of my being.
To be the descendant of a Confederate cavalryman, as I am, is something that I wouldn't trade.
You couldn't put a price on it.
If someone said they would give me a million dollars, but I have to come back in life and be born something other than a southern, there's no way I'd take it.
Absolutely not.
Never.
And you make a very good point.
It's more than being lucky in a genetic lottery.
It's a blessing.
We were blessed with this.
It is a blessing.
As the ancient Israelites were blessed with being Israelites.
And that other people had been blessed because their ancestors were men of faith, men of courage, men of strength, men of honor.
And so the generations are blessed for a time with the attributes and the virtues of those men.
Well, it doesn't last if you drift away from the essential beliefs and the characteristics that your ancestors possessed.
If you drift away from that, if you allow the world to encumber you with bad ideas and bad thoughts and bad opinions, then you will very quickly lose the reverence you have for your own heritage, which is God-given.
This is not something that is accidental.
Now, the modern culture wants us to believe that, you know, the left-wing culture wants us to believe that our heritage is just accidental.
You're accidentally white.
You know, it's really just a random thing.
You could have very well been born a mulatto or half Asian or half something else, and that's a lie.
Heritage is passed on from generation to generation, and it's a blessing.
And it doesn't just belong to you.
There's no, you know, this is a selfish attitude that our heritage just belongs to us.
It doesn't.
Our heritage belongs to our children, and it belongs to our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents and on ad infinitum.
And we do not have the right nor the liberty to change that just because we're selfish or self-willed.
You know, there's an interesting, a great passage in the Bible.
I think it's in John, where it's either in John or 2 Peter.
I can't remember which one right now.
It's pretty easy to find.
But there's a wording about this, and there's something encouraging.
John mentions that, or Peter mentions that Lot was tormented by the unrighteous.
And, you know, you know, James, as well as I do, that he's so angry about this stuff.
We get so angry about unrighteousness.
But have you ever noticed that the unrighteous never get angry?
That they accept the world.
They accept all of the corruption and pollution and distortion and perversion and adultery in the world.
They swallow it whole.
And when they do, it poisons them, and it poisons their heritage.
And so by being angry and tormented by the unrighteousness of those around us who have rejected their heritage, you've rejected their background, then we're preserving ours, in a sense.
And by losing theirs, they're going to find out that this is a loss greater than they can bear.
So, you know, there's more to heritage than just celebrating it because of our ancestors.
It's a matter of duty, and it's a matter of taking care of those things which don't belong to us.
Our heritage is something that is passed on.
It's a linear descent.
It is more than each thread.
It's a whole cloth.
And so you pull out one thread of a cloth, the whole cloth falls apart.
And that is what heritage is.
You think you can pull out one thread and you can still keep the cloth?
You're wrong.
The cloth will unravel.
Well, Bill.
Listen, I got to say this because once again, you're stirring my emotions because you have said it quite eloquently and most perfectly.
That is why, you know, this is a contemporary political talk show.
The political cesspool deals with issues that we see in the headlines every day.
But in April, especially in April, it's not that we feel obligated to do Confederate history methods, it's because we want to.
We have to.
This is something spiritual.
You talk about family.
That's what it's about.
I can swallow someone, you know, demonizing a view I might have on any given issue.
But when you demonize my family, that's something that, you know, we just can't let go unabated.
We love our family.
We're proud of our family.
Let's talk about our enemies for a minute.
Let's talk about the people who are against our heritage.
You know, these black harpies and these liberals, these liberal vandals who come out against our heritage have nothing to compare to it.
And we have to remember that much of what drives their hatred of Confederate heritage is their lack of heritage that they possess.
You know, Douglas Wilder and these other anti-Confederate harpies and agitators and denouncers and haters, their heritage is pretty mealy and unimportant, and they really have nothing to fall back on.
And so they hate it out of envy.
They really despise the Confederacy because it was brave, honorable, true, and virtuous.
And their hatred comes out of a sense of, I would say, inferiority, an inferiority complex in themselves.
You know, the civil rights movement was really a pretty pathetic example of courage.
But just because you can get arrested for marching and held in a jail overnight, you know, what kind of, is that really heroic?
Especially not when you consider you have the entirety.
Is that heroic?
No.
You have the entire American media and American government in Washington backing you.
Yeah, they weren't sticking it to the man, as they said.
But continue on, Bill.
Well, my point is this.
If you look back at history, if you look at the post-Civil War era, and these, of course, these ignoramuses will never do this, and they would never admit it if they did.
The most admired man after the American Civil War was Robert E. Lee.
The Democratic Party wanted to draft Robert E. Lee for a presidential nomination in 1866 because he was the most admired, one of the most admired men in the United States.
Robert E. Lee refused because he was still a citizen of the Confederacy, because he had sworn an oath to the Confederacy.
Northern generals came to visit Robert E. Lee to ask his help and opinion in healing the wounds of the war.
These generals who had fought him on the battlefield, they didn't scorn him.
They didn't show contempt for Robert E. Lee.
They came to ask for his help.
And not only that, but generals gave speeches, northern generals gave speeches honoring and praising Robert E. Lee almost to the 20th century while it was still alive.
George McClellan, one of Robert E. Lee's most fierce opponents on the battlefield, gave some of the most stirring, loving speeches about Robert E. Lee that were ever given.
And yet these malignant, false, pathetic losers like Douglas Wilder and these NAACP clowns think that they have the right to judge a man who his own enemies praised him?
Bill, hold it right there.
They're nothing, and their jealousy and their envy is what fuels their hatred, and they know it.
Perfect.
The civil rights movement was a fraud.
They know it was backed by the government.
Bill, we got to take a break.
We got to take a break.
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There was that number again, 1-866-986-News.
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We want you to not just write it down, but use it during the third hour tonight when we go to open mic hour as we continue our coverage of Confederate History Month 2010.
And, Bill, you were on a tear, my friend, right before that commercial break nipped us in the bud.
And certainly want to give you the opportunity to continue along that train of thought.
Okay, James, let me, look, first of all, in answer to some of the ignoramuses who have brought up issues about the Confederacy and why Confederate history proclamations should not be named.
And it's Douglas Wilder who's mainly behind this.
But one of the things that they say is that we're celebrating traitors, people who are guilty of treason.
And let me settle this matter historically.
In July of 1865, some three months after the war, this issue was brought before the Supreme Court of the United States.
The question being, are former Confederates, in fact, guilty of treason for rebellion against the United States?
The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, Solomon P. Chase, who, by the way, was a radical Republican.
He was not a friendly Democrat.
He was a radical Northern Republican, one of the most radical in Lincoln's cabinet, declared that secession was not treason.
Now, this is the Supreme Court of the United States, which had power over the defeated South.
That body declared that it was not treason.
So that puts an end to that silly notion that these men were, in fact, traitors.
Now, Bill, have you ever heard that very simple historical fact, easily proven, ever brought up to any of these boneheads who make mention of the fact that the Confederates were guilty of treason?
Have you ever heard anybody on a mainstream political talk show bring that fact up?
But this is a historical fact.
It's indisputable.
Second, Jefferson Davis was held for two years in prison while the United States Attorney General and the United States tried to find cause to put him in prison or execute him, and they couldn't find any.
They kept him in prison without rid of habeas corpus for two years trying to find some charge to bring against Jefferson Davis and none could be brought.
They had to release him without charges being filed because there were none to file against him based on the findings of the Supreme Court and the Constitution of the United States.
So there's two things.
If in fact they were guilty of treason, why weren't they hanged?
And these ignoramuses who simply emote, they don't think, they just emote, they're always going to ignore those facts.
Another thing, the war was fought over slavery.
Well, the fact is that slavery was specifically protected by the Constitution of the United States.
It was a constitutional, constitutionally protected institution.
It was not a fabrication of just the South.
It was part of the United States Constitution.
And if the South was guilty of rebellion to protect slavery, then so were the 13 colonies, because one of the grievances the 13 United States colonies made against King George is that King George was intempting to incite a servile insurrection in the colonies.
That means the slaves.
The colonies specifically protected slavery.
So if the South was guilty of fighting a war of slavery, so were the 13 colonies of the United States.
This is a historical fact, and it can be easily produced.
So that's a ridiculous, nonsensical argument, and also one which really flatters the descendants of slaves.
Because if they believe that some 300,000 Southern boys died on the field of combat for house servants and field hands, they're flattering themselves.
They're simply flattering themselves.
No sacrifice that great would have been made for slavery.
This was about independence.
It was about states' rights, and it was about sovereignty.
And by the 1863, 1864, most of the slaves have been lost anyway.
And if that's the case, why didn't the South just quit fighting?
Why didn't they fight all the way to 1865 when almost all the slaves had either been freed or were in the hands of the northern occupiers?
Again, it makes no sense.
So they're flattering themselves and their worth and their value to white southerners when they say that.
It's an insult to our ancestors to say, oh, yeah, well, he died fighting for the house servants or the slaves.
It's ridiculous.
And no comparable sacrifice has ever been made in history.
That's like saying they died to save the steam engine.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
So, you know, these are the historical facts that put to rest any of the arguments that the NAACP or Douglas Wall and other people make.
Now, far more contemptible even than these people who are denouncing the Confederate history proclamation are those governors who run away from them when they make them because they're simply being cowards when they know better.
And there's no excuse for that because that just insults the very people you've proclaimed as worthy of recognition.
And I don't think that would ever happen with Martin Luther King or any of the other civil rights icons, even though they were far from the ideal of American patriots, especially Martin Luther King.
But, you know, we have an upside-down country where the worst is celebrated as the best and the best are denounced as the worst.
So this is the country we live in, but we will continue to honor our ancestors and to honor the Confederacy because we know what they were really about and what they were really fighting for.
What I wouldn't give for Bill Rowland to receive some national television interview requests.
I mean, this is the kind of stuff that can so easily debunk and so easily disarm all of these blowfish that get on there huffing and puffing about this, that, and the other.
It can so easily be refuted.
And the fact that our side was not only right, but was just honorable, noble, and everything else you would aspire to be can be so easily proven.
It's sort of unnerving, not unnerving, I don't think this is the word I'm looking for, but it's disappointing, I guess, to say the least, that others haven't stepped up and said anything like you just heard Bill Rowland.
Let me tell you something.
You know, something else, James, is Haley Barber made a good point when he defended his signing of the Confederate History Proclamation, and he sort of dismissed all the complaints about it.
And then all of a sudden they go away, you'll notice.
You know, once you stand up to these little thugs, they suddenly realize you're not going to run from them, then they stop talking.
But he made a good point.
He said, every governor in the South has signed these proclamations for years and years and years.
Bill Clinton signed them.
He signed Confederate history proclamations for the sons of Confederate veterans and for the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
I've seen copies of them.
Even a liberal Democratic governor like Bill Clinton signed those things.
So, you know, they're going to get caught in an embarrassing situation when more of these proclamations turn up and people have to suddenly make excuses and apologies for them.
And I don't think that's going to happen.
So, you know, you better look back on your history when even people like Franklin Roosevelt would visit the South and there would be Confederate banners hanging out, Confederate flags hanging, or Eleanor Roosevelt.
And, you know, there was no offense or, you know, some sort of controversy then.
And these people were certainly closer to the war than we are in terms of time.
So, you know, all of this is simply contrived political control and intimidation.
And the minute you run from it, you become a victim of it.
This is why this show is so special, ladies and gentlemen.
You're not going to get this anywhere else.
It's why we need to be and should be supported.
And, you know, I had a column here written by Pat Buchanan this month.
He wrote it on April 8th, just a little over a week ago.
I thought it was pretty good, but now it pales in comparison to what I've heard Bill Rowland opine.
But I'll share it with you anyway.
Because Pat Buchanan went on the softball show with Chris Matthews and said some things similar to what I'm about to read.
And Alan Colms the next day demanded that MSNBC never allow him to take the airwaves again for speaking such hatred.
And this is what Pat had to say in a column entitled Hatred of the South is Hatred of America.
He's responding to an assertion by my oldest farm partner, Roland Martin of CNN, that proclaiming April to be Confederate History Month is a recognition of American terrorists.
And Pat writes that Roland Martin reflects the hysteria that has seized Obamaville on hearing that Governor Bob McDonnell had declared Confederate History Month in the old Dominion.
Virginia does, after all, lead the nation in Civil War battlefields.
So loud was the howling that in 24 hours, McDonald had backpedaled and issued an apology that he had not mentioned slavery as the cause of the war, which, of course, as Bill mentioned, it was not.
Unfortunately, however, the governor missed a great teaching moment at the outset of the 150th anniversary of America's bloodiest war.
Virginia did not decede in defense of slavery.
Indeed, when Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4th, 1861, Virginia was still in the Union.
Only South Carolina, Georgia, and five Gulf states had seceded and created the Confederate States of America.
And that's where I'll leave off.
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There on the website, you will find this article, which I was sharing with you in part before the break.
It's Pat Buchanan's most recent column, which I think is one of his best ever.
And he was writing that the primary tenant of this article is the cause of the war.
Of course, Buchanan mentioned, as I said just before the break, that Virginia did not secede in defense of slavery.
At the firing of Fort Sumter, April 12th through the 13th of 1861, the first shots of the Civil War, Virginia was still inside the Union, Buchanan writes.
Indeed, there were more slave states in the Union than in the Confederacy.
But on April 15th, Lincoln issued a call for 700, excuse me, for 75,000 volunteers from the state militias to march south and crush the new Confederacy.
On April 17th, Virginia seceded rather than provide soldiers or militia to participate in a war on their brothers.
North Carolina, Tennessee, and Arkansas followed Virginia out over the same issue.
They would not be a party to a war on their kinfolk.
Slavery was not the cause of this war.
Secession was that and Lincoln's determination to drown the nation in blood, if necessary, to make the Union whole again.
Nor did Lincoln ever deny it.
In his first inaugural, Lincoln sought to appease the states that had seceded by endorsing a constitutional amendment to make slavery permanent in the 15 states where it had existed.
He even offered to help the southern states run down their fugitive slaves.
In 1862, Lincoln wrote Horace Greeley that if he could restore the Union without freeing one slave, he'd do it.
The Emancipation Proclamation of January 1st, 1863, freed only those slaves.
Lincoln had no power to free those under Confederate rule.
As for slaves in the Union states of Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri, they remained property of their owners.
As for terrorists, Roland Martin, of course, had claimed that the Confederate soldiers were terrorists.
No army fought more honorably than Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia.
No one can deny that.
The great terrorist of the war, Buchanan writes, was William Sherman, who violated all known rules of war by looting, burning, and pillaging on his infamous march to the sea from Atlanta to Savannah.
Sherman would later be given command of the war against the Plains Indians and advocated extermination of the Sioux.
If Martin thinks Sherman's a hero, he might study what happened to the slave women of Columbia, South Carolina when Uncle Billy's boys in blue arrived to burn the city.
But Buchanan concludes this article with something that I think is very strong.
He asks, why are the Confederates vilified?
And he answers his own question by saying they are vilified because they were southern white Christian men.
Bill, I mean, that pretty much just says it all.
And that continues to be the reason why the South is vilified to this day.
Well, of course it is.
And the Christianity part being emphasized, I think, at this particular point in history.
Let's talk about some real terrorists.
And these men have escaped that smear.
But they were terrorists.
One being Nelson Mandela, who plotted bomb attacks all over South Africa to kill innocent people.
This is not the work of a soldier.
This is not the work of a general or a revolutionary.
This is the work of a terrorist and a murderer.
He was convicted, rightly so, of terrorist activity in South Africa by plotting to attack certain locations with bombs, and people were killed.
And for many, many, many years, through most of the time that Nelson Mandela was in prison, Amnesty International did not recognize him as a political prisoner.
It was only when world opinion had been manipulated to turn Nelson Mandela into some sort of saint that Amnesty International reversed its course.
So he was not on the list of political prisoners for most of the time he spent in prison.
And they refused to recognize him as such, which I think showed a great deal of courage on the part of Amnesty International.
But he was a terrorist.
But look now, he's the hero of South Africa.
And I think we could say if Mandela had raised an army and gone off in the bush and fought the Boers and the South African government from the belt and the jungle, we could say at least that was an honorable fight.
We may have not thought he was right, but at least it was honorable.
But no, he was a terrorist.
But now he's a hero.
Another terrorist, Menachem Begin, one of the great heroes of Israel, one of the founders of the Israeli state, in a sense, conducted a bomb attack on a hotel full of British soldiers and innocent people, killed 92 people, I believe.
But he's not a terrorist.
Why, he's a head of state in Israel.
And there are monuments to Menachem Begin.
And he's remembered with great affection for the peace treaty that he made with Anwar Sadat, another terrorist who's now a hero.
So the terrorists have gotten a high place of honor in world opinion now.
And the heroes are reduced to villain status.
But that's the way of the world right now.
So being called a terrorist now would almost be a badge of honor considering the opinions and the attitudes and the mentality of the people making those claims.
Well, Bill, again, you've got a hammer and you're driving nails straight through this evening, my friend.
I mean, there's nothing more I can say that could add anything to that.
I mean, you're dead on.
Spot on.
So, well, of course, you know, we know Roland Martin just grandstands and runs his mouth to get attention.
I mean, that's all he's after.
You know, you made a fool out of him when you were on the show with Paula Zahn on CNN, and clearly he was way out of his depth there.
But they've made Roland Martin a big shot and manufactured a big shot there.
And so now whatever he says is going to be taken seriously, no matter how ridiculous or clownish it is.
So let him run his mouth.
Now people are responding to it, I think, with some genuine intelligent commentary, as Buchanan did.
But you know, I wish James on the right that we would all come together like the left does and speak with one voice and all come out and denounce it.
You know, where's the article from Ann Coulter?
Where's the article from some of these other people saying, you know, Roland Martin's an idiot and here's why.
And, you know, crush that nonsense to the ground while you've got the chance.
Instead of one voice here and one voice there, let's unite with a single loud Battle cry and put this nonsense to rest.
You know, you and I were talking earlier, and I was very angry about something that I had heard about, and I'm not going to go into it on this show, maybe in a future show.
But, you know, the entire educational system, starting with the public schools, has turned against the Confederacy and vilified it.
And then that poison seeped into the private schools.
And now the private schools have the curriculum where the Confederacy is on the wrong side of history.
And now it's even in the homeschool curriculums.
And so this poison goes on and on and on.
There's no escaping it.
And, you know, I've been over a year or two reading Alexander Soljanitson's Gulag Archipelago.
And one thing that Soljan Eatson makes very clear is that you have to stand up to it.
You have to stand up to this and you have to denounce it and you have to yell out against it and you have to speak out.
You can't remain silent.
You can't fold your hands and say, oh, well, it'll all go away.
It won't.
You know, James, we're in the jaws of a monster.
We're in the jaws of a Leviathan monster.
And he's going to crush his jaws around everybody.
But at least he'll have to chew us a little.
He'll have to chew our bones and crunch down on us a little.
The rest of the people, he's going to swallow whole.
The Leviathan, the monster, is going to swallow them whole.
Our faith will be the same.
But at least make him chew.
At least make him break a tooth on us every now and then.
Stand up.
Don't stand for it.
Stand against it.
Because we don't have much time left.
We know what's happening.
We see what's happening before our eyes.
And it's not going to stop simply by turning away.
Turning away and not looking at it is not going to make the monster go away.
And the only thing worse than turning away is to apologize.
Apologize for being right, Bill.
That is throwing napalm on the bottom.
That's why I said McDonald, that's why I say he's worse than Roland Martin or any of this other group of idiots because he knows what's right and he turned against it.
They're ignoramuses.
They're not out for political gain.
They'll say anything to get attention, like spoiled children.
But he knows better.
And so for knowing better and doing that, he deserves more approbation and more criticism than all the Roland Martins or Douglas Wilders or NAACP chiefs in the country because they at least know what they're after.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
He's floundering out of cowardice.
And that is truly despicable.
And it is.
And as you've mentioned, my conversation with you about this matter about apologizing when you know you're right, apologizing when you've done no wrong goes back to when we first were attacked four or five years ago as a result of our work on this show.
And, you know, certainly men should apologize when they are in the wrong, but for people like Bob McDonald, governor of Virginia, to apologize for issuing a proclamation honoring the people who fought in defense of the state of Virginia is unconscionable.
And yet it happens day in, day out.
And when it does happen, that's when, as you said, Bill, the pile on begins, and that's when he is really rendered obsolete.
I mean, he is seen as a weakling.
Haley Barber's not getting attacked right now.
And what's the difference?
No, because he refused, because he called the whole issue in controversy diddly.
He dismissed it as diddly.
And once he called it diddly, of course the press came out in an absolute hysterical fit and an epileptic fit about it.
But, you know, it's gone now.
Why?
Because he didn't run to hide.
And it proved that, you know, if you don't run and hide, then you're dealing with cowards anyway.
Bill, we got to take a break.
Because they're afraid you might keep dying them.
Got to take that break, Bill.
We're going to talk more about it.
We're going to take your calls.
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