Tim Pool Daily Show - Hantavirus Is SPREADING, FEARS We Are Cooked
Aired: 2026-05-12
Duration: 01:01:22


=== Contagious Hantavirus Scare (11:33) ===

[00:01:58]  What is going on, Patriots?
[00:01:59]  This is Tape Brown here, holding it down, back with another installment of the Timcast Daily News live show.
[00:02:04]  Hentai virus or hentai virus.
[00:02:06]  I'm not entirely sure how you say it.
[00:02:07]  Some are calling it the hentai virus, and I'm very nervous.
[00:02:10]  I used to be extra scared of it.
[00:02:11]  Ooh, 50% fatality rate.
[00:02:13]  Who knows what's going on?
[00:02:14]  Polymarket has said health experts warn hentai virus might be more contagious than we thought.
[00:02:19]  Now, you're seeing a lot of headlines right now.
[00:02:21]  You're seeing a lot of headlines.
[00:02:22]  What is actually going on on the ground?
[00:02:24]  Well, apparently, what happened is in the Netherlands, these people in a hospital.
[00:02:30]  They've all are now being monitored for symptoms of hantavirus because they came in contact with elements of someone that had hantavirus, that meaning blood and urine, and they improperly mishandled it.
[00:02:44]  And now they're being monitored for symptoms, which would indicate that maybe it does spread a little bit quicker, maybe a little bit easier than we maybe previously anticipated.
[00:02:52]  So we're going to get into that.
[00:02:53]  We have a few other big stories.
[00:02:54]  Obviously, Spencer Pratt.
[00:02:56]  I don't know if you guys have seen what's going on in the West Coast.
[00:02:58]  Spencer Pratt, everyone's in love with the guy.
[00:03:00]  He's surging in the polls.
[00:03:03]  Really exciting stuff.
[00:03:04]  There's legitimately a chance that Los Angeles decides that, yes, we should live in a first world country.
[00:03:11]  That would be quite something.
[00:03:12]  That would be quite something to see.
[00:03:13]  So we'll get into that.
[00:03:14]  We have a few more stories that we'll get into if we have time.
[00:03:16]  And then we're bringing back Wade Searle today, the great Wade Searle.
[00:03:19]  Obviously, we tried to have him on.
[00:03:20]  It was like last Thursday, I believe.
[00:03:23]  And we had some audio issues.
[00:03:26]  And so I just had to go for an hour.
[00:03:28]  But I want to bring him back.
[00:03:29]  And we've gotten him back on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon.
[00:03:32]  Once again, this is Tape Ron here, taking you from the morning to the afternoon on the Dribble Daily lineup.
[00:03:36]  I'm very pleased to be back with you guys.
[00:03:37]  With that, I think we should just get into this first story.
[00:03:39]  I should get in the meat and potatoes here.
[00:03:41]  I don't really have any other housekeeping to do.
[00:03:44]  So, Polymarket, this is what they had to say.
[00:03:47]  This is kind of their new thing.
[00:03:49]  I don't know what's with all these crypto companies and betting, sports betting companies, but they've just turned themselves into headline accounts.
[00:03:55]  They don't even really post anything related to anything that would be relevant to Polymarket.
[00:04:01]  Their new thing is just engagement, getting engagement off of headlines.
[00:04:06]  Game recognized game, I guess.
[00:04:07]  Maybe we should probably be doing that.
[00:04:08]  Tim Cass News, who knows?
[00:04:10]  But yeah, Polyamarket had the scoop here.
[00:04:13]  Health experts warn Hanta virus might be more contagious than we thought.
[00:04:17]  Now, what are they referring to?
[00:04:19]  Well, they're referring to this NBC News article here.
[00:04:21]  This is what they're sort of extracting that statement from.
[00:04:24]  So, this is what kind of sucks, actually, you know, for, it's an aside here, for these companies like NBC News, who, you know, a lot of criticism, they're lefty, et cetera, et cetera, but they're the ones doing all of the reporting.
[00:04:36]  And then it's just a single snippet from their articles, the one that ends up getting disseminated throughout the political scene.
[00:04:43]  So, We'll read here from NBC News.
[00:04:44]  This is who probably should be credited with the story that it is more contagious than we thought.
[00:04:52]  Hansa virus in the US.
[00:04:54]  How easily does the Andes strain spread?
[00:04:58]  It has been assumed that it is.
[00:05:00]  Let me start over.
[00:05:02]  It has been assumed that the virus is contagious only if someone in close contact with someone who's having symptoms.
[00:05:09]  But there's some indications that that could be different.
[00:05:13]  I don't know what it is.
[00:05:14]  I'm sipping on this broom.
[00:05:17]  Sparkling energy.
[00:05:18]  I was at 7 Eleven on the way here and I was like, I'm going to switch it up because this looks really like it looks kind of gay.
[00:05:24]  I'll say that.
[00:05:25]  It looks very feminine.
[00:05:27]  But there's got to be something going on here that makes it better for you because the packaging is minimalist.
[00:05:32]  So that means minimalism equals healthy in today's food scene.
[00:05:38]  So I'm sipping on that.
[00:05:39]  So if my mind starts to slip a little bit, I'm going to 100% blame it on this sparkling energy drink.
[00:05:46]  I'm just kidding.
[00:05:47]  Sponsor us.
[00:05:48]  This is actually some really good stuff.
[00:05:50]  It's got apple cider vinegar in it, which is pretty cool.
[00:05:52]  I don't know if you guys know that's like a really good substance for cutting, which is something quite interesting.
[00:05:58]  Anyway, from Embassy News, where was I?
[00:06:01]  At least 11 passengers from the NV Hongis cruise ship are reported to have the Andes strain of hantai virus.
[00:06:08]  Hantai.
[00:06:08]  I keep saying hantai virus as a joke, and now it's like getting stuck in my head.
[00:06:14]  Not hantai, the.
[00:06:15]  Anyway.
[00:06:17]  Of the 18 Americans who are on board and are now in quarantine facilities in the U.S., at least Three are being closely watched for possible infections.
[00:06:26]  So, obviously, the initial reporting was it was in what, Nevada?
[00:06:29]  No, it was Arizona.
[00:06:33]  Arizona, like Florida, somewhere in the south, maybe Louisiana.
[00:06:36]  But then they said an unknown amount are in California.
[00:06:39]  Well, it looks like they've tightened up ranks here of who they're actually monitoring.
[00:06:43]  The latest cases are all among people who had direct contact with other patients who were on the ship, although concerns about how easily or not the Andes strain spreads are growing.
[00:06:54]  Andes is the only type of Hanta virus that can pass from person to person.
[00:06:58]  We all know this.
[00:07:01]  Yeah, duh.
[00:07:02]  That's why we're talking about it.
[00:07:03]  Three people from the cruise ship have died from the virus.
[00:07:06]  It has been assumed that the virus is contagious only if someone in close contact with someone who's having symptoms.
[00:07:12]  Some experts now suggest it's possible that it may be more contagious than we thought.
[00:07:19]  Oh, we're cooked.
[00:07:19]  It's over.
[00:07:20]  It's over.
[00:07:21]  That's what Polymarket was quoting, and they didn't even give credit to NBC News.
[00:07:24]  Boo.
[00:07:25]  That's a shame to see that.
[00:07:28]  Quote, what we're hearing now, including from the doctors who were on the ship, is that at least a few people contracted it without that long, prolonged exposure that we've always assumed.
[00:07:41]  Dr. Ashish Jha, a senior fellow at Harvard University Kennedy School, told NBC's Today show on Monday.
[00:07:48]  Dr. Brendan Jackson, acting director of the High Consequence Pathogens and Pathology Division at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also known as the CDC, Said in an interview Monday that the close quarters of the cruise ship environment seem to be key in this outbreak.
[00:08:04]  Cruise ships are notorious for infectious disease outbreaks because they bring together a wide variety and sick them in close quarters for days or even weeks, repeatedly sharing high touch areas like buffets.
[00:08:16]  I've maintained this that buffets, I love buffets.
[00:08:20]  My favorite is like a Chinese buffet, and I'm talking like American Chinese, you know, because then they have like cheeseburgers and like chicken strips for whatever.
[00:08:28]  And what's the deal with Chinese buffets?
[00:08:29]  There's always jello.
[00:08:30]  What is going on there?
[00:08:31]  Why is there always jello?
[00:08:32]  I don't know what the deal is.
[00:08:33]  But I've always thought this has to be literally inventing new diseases.
[00:08:38]  Like, that has to be a petri dish.
[00:08:39]  I'm pretty confident that's how HIV and AIDS spread so ferociously through the 80s.
[00:08:43]  I know they attributed it to gay people or whatever, but that's probably true.
[00:08:46]  But also, I think it's the Chinese buffets would be someone you would need to certainly point at, you know, point your fingers at to determine what is going on.
[00:08:53]  Why is this so viral?
[00:08:57]  That is definitely different than how we live most of the time, Jackson said.
[00:09:01]  Hey, speak for yourself.
[00:09:03]  Timcast, you know, the studio that I operate in, it's close quarters.
[00:09:08]  Me and Callan and some of the others are all up on top of each other.
[00:09:12]  Things are getting wacky and wild over here.
[00:09:14]  So if one Hantavirus person comes down with Hantavirus, we're all cooked.
[00:09:17]  It's all over for us.
[00:09:19]  Hantavirus is so rare that spread on cruise ships was unheard of until three Han just passengers were confirmed to have died from the Andy strain this month.
[00:09:27]  There is no evidence to suggest the Andy strain has changed to make it more infectious, Jackson said.
[00:09:33]  But up here.
[00:09:34]  And we said, they said some experts now suggest it's more possible that it may be more contagious than we thought.
[00:09:38]  So, what's going on?
[00:09:40]  Who do we trust?
[00:09:40]  Who do we believe?
[00:09:41]  That's a very salient question.
[00:09:43]  Well, experts maintain that the risk of Hantavirus spreading widely is extremely low.
[00:09:47]  They say there's still much to learn about the virus and how it affects people.
[00:09:52]  Clearly, because we're not even on the same page, we're getting various different indications of how worried we should be about this.
[00:09:59]  Only one of the dozens of Hantavirus strains are known to spread among people the Andes strain.
[00:10:05]  That's what sickened at least nine people who were on the Honduras, and it is suspected in additional cases.
[00:10:09]  The Andes virus doesn't spread easily, Jackson said.
[00:10:12]  When it does, it typically involves household members that are doing things like sharing beds, sharing eating utensils, and having contact with bodily fluids.
[00:10:19]  Whoa!
[00:10:22]  He's talking about some spit swapping going on, I guess, here.
[00:10:26]  Watch out, folks.
[00:10:27]  Jeez Louise.
[00:10:28]  You know, this could be a rare virus where vol cells and incels and fem cells are the lone survivors and they have to repopulate the earth, but they're too autistic to actually repopulate, so we all die.
[00:10:37]  That's a realistic scenario here.
[00:10:38]  Actually, I'll have to check call sheet.
[00:10:42]  That might be the most likely scenario.
[00:10:44]  Dr. David Fitter, head of the CDC's Division of Global Migration Health, said at a meeting briefing Monday at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where two passengers were under observation, quote, This is very different than a respiratory virus.
[00:10:55]  It is very difficult to spread.
[00:10:58]  I'm glad they're all saying this, but it seems like there's not really much good news.
[00:11:04]  So, you know, who do we believe here?
[00:11:06]  I don't know.
[00:11:06]  It's possible that the virus can spread between people if they're physically close to one another for extended periods of time.
[00:11:10]  The CDC tends to define that as being within six feet of another person for longer than 15 minutes, Jackson said earlier Monday at a meeting briefing at the Nebraska Biocontainment Unit in Omaha, where most of the U.S. passengers from the ship were taken for observation.
[00:11:22]  There's nothing magical about six feet.
[00:11:24]  It's on a force field, it's a rough number that gives us a sense of how close somebody has to be.
[00:11:28]  It is a fairly conservative approach given the evidence we have so far about this virus, how this virus has spread in the past.
[00:11:34]  Well, this was an interesting headline from Reuters.
[00:11:36]  I don't want to read the whole article again, but this is quite interesting.
[00:11:40]  Dutch hospital quarantines 12 staff members for six weeks.
[00:11:43]  Imagine getting quarantined for six weeks.
[00:11:45]  I got quarantined during COVID when I was in college.
[00:11:48]  I was in college during COVID.
[00:11:50]  I got quarantined for like two weeks.
[00:11:52]  It was me and this guy.
[00:11:54]  And I think we were pretty much ready to murder each other by the end of two weeks.
[00:11:59]  And.
[00:12:00]  It was horrible.
[00:12:01]  They locked me in a.
[00:12:03]  I was in New York City, so that's why it was so brr.
[00:12:06]  But I remember I got locked in this just empty dorm room.
[00:12:10]  And I had managed to bring my PlayStation in there, but I couldn't connect to the Wi Fi very well.
[00:12:14]  So I ended up just having to play.
[00:12:17]  I think I was just playing Rocket League by myself for two weeks.
[00:12:20]  That's all I really remember doing, that and FaceTiming people.
[00:12:23]  It was horrible.
[00:12:24]  It was a really horrible experience.
[00:12:25]  And the food was garbage.
[00:12:26]  They wouldn't let us DoorDash or anything.
[00:12:28]  So they would just bring us freaking slop.
[00:12:31]  It was.
[00:12:32]  Those terrorists literally like prison, honestly, quite frankly.
[00:12:34]  Dutch hospital quarantined 12 members for six weeks in a preventative measure after blood and urine from a hantavirus patient were handled without observing strict protocols.
[00:12:43]  What are these freaky Dutch hospital workers up to?
[00:12:46]  What do you mean you're not handling blood and urine with strict protocols?
[00:12:48]  That's one of the few things I would handle with strict protocols.
[00:12:54]  There's a lot of things I could say here.
[00:12:57]  Yeah, what's going on here?
[00:12:58]  What do you mean?
[00:12:59]  If I'm handling blood and urine, I'm going to be doing this all by the book.
[00:13:02]  What do you mean?
[00:13:02]  What are they swishing it around?
[00:13:05]  Something was going on here.
[00:13:06]  Were they gargling it?
[00:13:07]  I mean, geez, Louise, what is going on in the Netherlands?
[00:13:09]  These people, they're totally getting freaky over there.
[00:13:13]  Look, I mean, we know that Amsterdam can be a bit of a wacky and wild place.
[00:13:17]  You know, there's a lot of red tinted light bulbs in that city.
[00:13:20]  But I mean, seriously?
[00:13:21]  Like, what are we doing here?
[00:13:22]  So, Dutch, the Dutch are, looks like they're not playing around.
[00:13:26]  They're clamping down a bit.
[00:13:27]  So, we're going to see.
[00:13:29]  This is not good.

=== Spencer Pratt Political Angle (11:34) ===

[00:13:31]  How, you know, despite every time one of these experts comes out and says it's not a big deal.
[00:13:37]  It seems like there's another development that would indicate that it might be a big deal.
[00:13:41]  It might be a big deal.
[00:13:42]  And here's the problem, and this is like the most obvious point you could possibly make.
[00:13:45]  So forgive me for preaching to the choir here.
[00:13:47]  But people do not believe these people because COVID was such a disaster as far as the experts' response to it that it's kind of a boy that cried wolf situation.
[00:13:58]  Where if the experts downplay the virus, then everyone's going to be like, how can I trust these people?
[00:14:03]  It must be worse than what they're saying.
[00:14:05]  But if the experts come out and say, no, actually, it's a big deal, everyone's going to say, ah, it's not a big deal.
[00:14:08]  You guys said this before.
[00:14:10]  So it's really a lose lose situation.
[00:14:12]  There's no way.
[00:14:13]  It's like the masses, us, are the ones in control of how worried we should be about the virus, which is just a really bizarre situation to be in.
[00:14:23]  So, with that, we're going to keep moving on.
[00:14:24]  We're going to keep moving on.
[00:14:25]  I'm just expanding on information we don't know yet.
[00:14:27]  This is unbelievable.
[00:14:29]  I don't know if you guys saw this.
[00:14:31]  So, obviously, Spencer Pratt, if you don't know who he is by now, you've been living under a rock.
[00:14:35]  I'm sorry.
[00:14:36]  You've been living under a rock.
[00:14:37]  Los Angeles mayoral election.
[00:14:39]  When you think Los Angeles, you think homeless, poop, needles.
[00:14:43]  It's like a freaking Dutch hospital over there.
[00:14:45]  And proper handling of all these things.
[00:14:47]  It's getting wacky and wild over in Los Angeles.
[00:14:50]  But out of the fray, we've just been gifted with an especially talented politician, Spencer Pratt.
[00:14:58]  You know, when I first saw everyone talking about him, I kind of tuned it out a little bit because I'm kind of used to anytime conservative media is in love with someone, you're always bound to get let down for a variety of reasons where they overhype them or they just latch on to them for no reason.
[00:15:14]  So, when I was first hearing about Spencer Pratt, I was like, ah, okay, here we go.
[00:15:17]  Just another love affair from the conservative media, but it's whatever.
[00:15:22]  I then actually watched his campaign ad and I was like, oh, this guy is actually awesome.
[00:15:28]  And then the debates, the debates were so freaking good.
[00:15:32]  I don't know if I covered it on this show or not, but you have to go check it out if you haven't seen it.
[00:15:36]  His LA mayoral debates, it helps that he's debating two really stupid people.
[00:15:44]  I mean, literally, Karen Bass is like a moron.
[00:15:48]  So that's quite easy.
[00:15:49]  And then this Raman lady, just as clueless, she's like a wannabe Mamdani and she's like trying to reheat some of his talking points.
[00:15:55]  But Mamdani is actually like charismatic and kind of an interesting person where she's not.
[00:16:00]  So it just doesn't land at all.
[00:16:01]  And Spencer Pratt just kind of cuts through it.
[00:16:03]  He's the first person.
[00:16:04]  Spencer Pratt is the first, for my analysis, and I was tweeting about this, he's the first candidate in politics since 2016 that kind of has that Trumpian feel to him.
[00:16:14]  And so far as.
[00:16:16]  He's able to get on a debate stage and carry himself in such a way that you feel like you're in on the joke with him.
[00:16:22]  Like he's looking at the camera.
[00:16:23]  He's like, the way he's signaling, he's like, can you believe these people?
[00:16:26]  Because anyone else that's tried to kind of replicate that, it just feels fake and weird and off.
[00:16:30]  Like DeSantis is a good example.
[00:16:31]  I love DeSantis, but like his debates performances, like he was clearly just trying to oblige by his consultants and advisors who are just like copy Trump.
[00:16:40]  Spencer Pratt just feels genuine.
[00:16:44]  And I think the most refreshing part about him is he really doesn't have much interest or possibly even much knowledge of like.
[00:16:50]  International and even nationwide affairs.
[00:16:52]  He's just really concerned about Los Angeles centered affairs, which is really quite something to see.
[00:16:56]  So, take a look at this clip.
[00:16:58]  This is unbelievable.
[00:16:58]  Everyone's talking about Spencer Pratt, and it does feel like, in some ways, he came out of nowhere.
[00:17:01]  Now, my girlfriend, she was telling me, hang on, I got an issue here.
[00:17:07]  My girlfriend was telling me she actually used to watch The Hills when she was growing up, and she remembered Spencer Pratt quite distinctly.
[00:17:13]  And she actually had mentioned that in that show, he was kind of seen as like a villain.
[00:17:17]  He was like a villain in that show.
[00:17:19]  And so, she remembered him, and she was like, I followed him on Instagram for years, and like, I, He's like super in love with his wife.
[00:17:25]  So it's like really fun to watch like someone just really in love with his wife, I guess, because it's kind of rare these days, to be fair.
[00:17:32]  So she was, she might have been the first Spencer Pratt for mayor supporter in the country.
[00:17:35]  I don't know, but she's a big Spencer Pratt fan.
[00:17:38]  She's kind of the one that was like, no, this guy's awesome.
[00:17:39]  You got to take a look at him.
[00:17:40]  So, shout out to her.
[00:17:43]  This is unbelievable from 2012, the 2012 roast of Donald Trump.
[00:17:47]  Take a look at this clip.
[00:17:52]  You know, Donald Trump is such a douchebag that if you look up the word douchebag in the dictionary, there's a picture of Spencer Pratt.
[00:18:04]  But if you look close, Spencer Pratt is holding up a picture of Donald Trump.
[00:18:14]  So, this is what we call an omen.
[00:18:19]  This is what we call an omen.
[00:18:22]  I mean, it doesn't get any more perfect than that.
[00:18:26]  Everyone's been asking who is really a protege of Trump.
[00:18:30]  JD Vance, I don't know.
[00:18:32]  Marco Rubio, I don't know.
[00:18:33]  His kids, maybe, I don't know.
[00:18:35]  But Spencer Pratt, who by all accounts doesn't even really talk about Donald Trump, but everyone's kind of saying this guy kind of reminds me of Donald Trump a little bit.
[00:18:44]  And then all of a sudden, definitive proof.
[00:18:47]  The media, all these celebrities at this 2012 roast of Donald Trump were saying Spencer Pratt and Donald Trump are very similar.
[00:18:55]  Mythomaga says here, guys, I know.
[00:18:58]  I know this is really.
[00:19:00]  You almost got chills when that clip came out.
[00:19:02]  What's going on here?
[00:19:03]  Spencer Pratt is probably still a long shot for mayor, but something's up.
[00:19:08]  There's something different going on here, folks.
[00:19:09]  There's something interesting going on.
[00:19:12]  Spencer Pratt on Twitter, a video here.
[00:19:16]  Take a look at this.
[00:19:16]  This is the state of Los Angeles.
[00:19:19]  I mean, this is what should be our crown jewel, one of our crown jewels in this country.
[00:19:23]  Take a look at this clip.
[00:19:25]  Okay, well, this is a new one.
[00:19:26]  We just have a couch.
[00:19:28]  What is happening?
[00:19:41]  This is Los Angeles.
[00:19:44]  This is the, for better or for worse, the repository of American culture.
[00:19:49]  This is where all of our movies come from.
[00:19:51]  This is where a lot of our music comes out of.
[00:19:54]  And then this is the state of it.
[00:19:55]  If you wonder why so much movies and music and everything today just kind of has this eerie feeling to it, this feeling of just fakeness and grossness.
[00:20:04]  And I know I hate to get all woo woo on everyone, but it does feel a little bit evil and sinister and demonic.
[00:20:10]  The environment's reflecting that.
[00:20:12]  The environment in Los Angeles is reflecting that.
[00:20:13]  I don't expect a city that has that kind of street scenes to produce anything of value.
[00:20:18]  I'm sorry.
[00:20:19]  That's just the reality of the situation.
[00:20:21]  Spencer Pratt comes out, and most politicians would hit on this.
[00:20:23]  They'd pile drive.
[00:20:24]  They'd say, This is Democrat failure.
[00:20:26]  This is Obama's America.
[00:20:29]  Or here's my policy position.
[00:20:30]  How am I going to fix this?
[00:20:33]  Spencer Pratt doesn't do any of that.
[00:20:34]  He says, We don't have to live like this.
[00:20:36]  It's true.
[00:20:39]  All of these officials, right or left, they act like You know, these sorts of things are being either imposed on us or they're being, it's against our will.
[00:20:52]  It's completely out of control.
[00:20:54]  This is maybe, you know, the left's perspective that these people have just ended up there.
[00:20:58]  They've spawned there because of poverty or whatever, oppression.
[00:21:03]  I don't know.
[00:21:04]  You name it.
[00:21:04]  Even on the right, they'll say, well, this is imposed on us.
[00:21:06]  You know, we have no choice.
[00:21:07]  These leftists, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:21:09]  Spencer Pratt just comes up and says, we don't have to live like this.
[00:21:11]  You could just vote for me.
[00:21:13]  You could just vote for me and then I can stop this.
[00:21:15]  It's optional.
[00:21:16]  This is all optional.
[00:21:17]  It's 2026.
[00:21:19]  We have the means to end this.
[00:21:21]  I could end it tomorrow.
[00:21:22]  That's what he's saying.
[00:21:23]  We don't have to live like this.
[00:21:25]  And it's so true.
[00:21:26]  It's so salient.
[00:21:27]  It's just, I love it.
[00:21:29]  I like, I'm not, you know, I'm not going to explain.
[00:21:31]  I love this guy.
[00:21:32]  I love this guy.
[00:21:33]  I think he's fantastic.
[00:21:35]  He nails it on the head.
[00:21:37]  It's really some fantastic stuff.
[00:21:40]  Take a look at this from Kalshi Spencer Pratt was a long shot candidate at one point about two months ago.
[00:21:47]  He was at 7% in the polls.
[00:21:51]  At one point, Raman actually here became the odds on favorite, like literally three weeks ago, to be the next mayor of Los Angeles.
[00:22:01]  And Spencer Pratt was at 17%.
[00:22:03]  That's changing.
[00:22:05]  That is changing quite rapidly.
[00:22:07]  Spencer Pratt's at 32% odds on the betting markets right now.
[00:22:11]  Raman is completely danked.
[00:22:13]  Before those debates, she was the odds on favorite.
[00:22:15]  And now she's a long shot candidate.
[00:22:20]  Unbelievable.
[00:22:21]  And the way the Los Angeles mayoral election works.
[00:22:24]  So, they have as many candidates run in the first round.
[00:22:28]  And if no one in the first round of voting reaches 50%, they go on to a runoff.
[00:22:34]  That seems increasingly likely.
[00:22:36]  If you look at polling, Karen Bass has absorbed about 30%.
[00:22:41]  I think there's about 20 to 30% of Angelenos say that they will vote for Karen Bass.
[00:22:46]  About 15% say they'll vote for Spencer Pratt.
[00:22:50]  Maybe another 10% for Rahman.
[00:22:52]  That means that 50% of the electorate is up for grabs.
[00:22:56]  40, 50% up for grabs.
[00:22:58]  They don't know who they're going to vote for.
[00:23:01]  That indicates two things.
[00:23:02]  The first thing that it indicates is Karen Bass is not going to hit 50% because everyone in Los Angeles knows who she is.
[00:23:08]  She's the mayor, she's the incumbent.
[00:23:10]  And they've said, we're not going to vote for her.
[00:23:11]  So that indicates we're going to a runoff.
[00:23:15]  But the second thing about that, Spencer Pratt still has pretty low name recognition in Los Angeles.
[00:23:20]  I think a lot of Angela, you got to remember, we're in the online space.
[00:23:22]  We talk about politics all day.
[00:23:24]  We know who these people are.
[00:23:25]  The majority of people in Los Angeles don't really know what's going on, obviously.
[00:23:31]  They're working, they got jobs, they got families, you know, they got things going on.
[00:23:36]  They don't know who Spencer Pratt is.
[00:23:37]  They don't, they maybe have heard the name at this point, but they don't know much about him.
[00:23:42]  So that means that 40 to 50% of Los Angeles who is probably seeing all these same things and they've just learned to check out will hear this message from Spencer Pratt.
[00:23:51]  This is all optional.
[00:23:52]  I can fix this tomorrow.
[00:23:55]  That might be what it takes from the poll to like, that could be what it takes.
[00:23:57]  I'm just saying it's not as improbable as people think it is.
[00:24:01]  Ironically, the one thing hurting Spencer Pratt is the fact that he's considered a Republican.
[00:24:07]  He's running as an independent, but he's a registered Republican.
[00:24:12]  And that seems to be the main vector of attack from Rahman and Karen Bass is they lumbast him as a MAGA Republican, which he's clearly not.
[00:24:19]  I literally have not seen him talk about Trump once, which is just something.
[00:24:26]  Ladies and gentlemen, I think there's a chance that if this goes to a runoff and it's Karen Bass, possibly even, I don't think either or these people, I think Spencer Pratt has a chance.
[00:24:37]  I really do.
[00:24:37]  I think he's a good chance.
[00:24:39]  Am I saying he's going to win?
[00:24:40]  No.
[00:24:41]  Am I saying he has.
[00:24:42]  You know, if I'd put money on it, would he win?
[00:24:45]  Not necessarily.
[00:24:46]  I wouldn't put money on any of these people right now.
[00:24:47]  I'm just saying that if it goes to a runoff and Spencer Pratt is squaring off against one of these people, there is a situation in which enough Angelenos either stay home because they hate Karen Bass and they've never heard of Spencer Pratt, and enough people come out and just say, you know what?
[00:25:05]  I'm sick of this.

=== SSRIs Sexual Side Effects (06:06) ===

[00:25:06]  We don't have to live like this.
[00:25:07]  We really don't.
[00:25:08]  Enough.
[00:25:10]  It's a possibility, people.
[00:25:11]  That's all I'm saying.
[00:25:12]  With that, I want to get on to this next story real quick.
[00:25:14]  This is interesting before we bring in the great Wade Searle.
[00:25:16]  Wade Searle will be coming back.
[00:25:18]  I'm very excited to have him back.
[00:25:20]  I'm also having to maintain my voice a little bit.
[00:25:22]  There's going to be a lot expected of me as Phil is out, so I'm trying to keep my voice somewhat healthy.
[00:25:26]  I know Tim was having some issues with his voice tonight.
[00:25:29]  We'll see what happens tonight for Tim Kest IRL.
[00:25:33]  This is a really interesting headline that came out from the Fact Post.
[00:25:37]  This is clearly a reputable outlet.
[00:25:38]  They have Fact in their name.
[00:25:40]  New reporting reveals RFK Jr. is extremely.
[00:25:42]  Exploring banning certain SSRIs, potentially barring drugs like Zoloft, Prozac, and Lexapro.
[00:25:50]  And then, of course, they put their little editorialization at the bottom here.
[00:25:53]  Decades of research shows SSRIs are safe and effective.
[00:25:58]  Well, hang on.
[00:25:59]  That's not true.
[00:26:00]  That's not true.
[00:26:02]  We have lots of research.
[00:26:03]  I mean, this is the Australian government.
[00:26:06]  I don't know if you know anything about Australia.
[00:26:11]  Not exactly the most right wing government on planet Earth.
[00:26:13]  I think it'd be more fair to classify them as left wing.
[00:26:17]  This is from their official Department of Health, their HHS equivalent.
[00:26:20]  Here was a report.
[00:26:22]  Updated warnings about persistent sexual dysfunction for antidepressants.
[00:26:29]  Sexual dysfunction is a known risk of SSRIs and SNRIs, and these medicines already carry this warning.
[00:26:34]  However, the caveat that this effect can persist after patients stop treatment was not present in some of the PIs in the drug class.
[00:26:42]  Sexual dysfunction can refer to disorders of sexual drive, reduced or loss of libido.
[00:26:48]  Arousal and orgasm and ejaculation.
[00:26:50]  Patients may also report associated painful intercourse, prolonged erection, or genital numbness.
[00:26:58]  These effects can persist for weeks and years and can significantly harm patients' quality of life.
[00:27:06]  Ladies and gentlemen, do you see what's going on here?
[00:27:08]  I know I talked about yesterday the birth rate is tanking.
[00:27:11]  I am not saying that SSRIs are the leading cause of this, but I am saying that you're seeing an increasing amount of specifically women, but also men, but SSRI.
[00:27:20]  Usage is much more prevalent among women.
[00:27:23]  You're seeing an increasing number of people that are functionally asexuals.
[00:27:27]  You know, an asexual is a real thing.
[00:27:29]  I know we kind of roll our eyes and we hear about all these different types of sexualities or whatever, but that is a real thing insofar as your libido is so low that you're effectively not attracted to anyone.
[00:27:42]  You're not sexually attracted to anyone.
[00:27:45]  In SSRIs, there's a serious risk.
[00:27:47]  I mean, they do say at the bottom here that persistent sexual dysfunction after treatment is stopped is thought to be rare.
[00:27:53]  However, these symptoms are likely to be underreported and their prevalence is not currently known.
[00:27:58]  I think they're a lot more common than people think.
[00:28:01]  Not to get too graphic here, I know a lot of people that have children listen to the show, so I'll try to speak here a bit more vague.
[00:28:08]  But you're seeing a lot of people engage in casual belly bumping, and they're not really looking to connect with someone.
[00:28:18]  This is not traditionally how you would expect it to be.
[00:28:21]  They're not looking to connect with someone, they're not utilizing this to connect with someone.
[00:28:23]  They're functionally using it as another form of self pleasure, just using another body to do it.
[00:28:29]  And SSRIs clearly are a contributing factor for.
[00:28:34]  This sort of thing.
[00:28:35]  Look, there's a whole other, you know, there's lots of research.
[00:28:38]  University of Cambridge.
[00:28:40]  Scientists explain emotional blunting caused by common antidepressants.
[00:28:43]  I know people that have used SSRIs.
[00:28:45]  They talk about they become a zombie.
[00:28:47]  They become a zombie.
[00:28:48]  This is from the National Library of Medicine.
[00:28:51]  Long term antidepressant use, patient perspectives of benefits and adverse effects.
[00:28:55]  They basically talk here about various health issues, withdrawal effects, sexual problems, weight gain were very common.
[00:29:02]  Look at this 73%, 71%, 63%.
[00:29:05]  Adverse emotional effects such as feeling emotionally numb, 64%, and addiction, 43%.
[00:29:14]  These are serious things, folks.
[00:29:16]  These are serious things.
[00:29:18]  And they're prescribing these things like Tic Tacs.
[00:29:20]  I mean, literally, if you go into a therapist, if you visit a therapist or a psychologist or whatever, and you just tell them you feel empty inside, which, you know, in this irreligious, secular age we live in, that's the majority of people, they'll prescribe you one of these things.
[00:29:37]  Do you think someone is going to be more or less depressed after experiencing withdrawal effects, sexual problems, weight gain, being emotionally numb?
[00:29:51]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:29:53]  I think so.
[00:29:54]  I think it's fair to say, I mean, sexual problems being 71%, that people increasingly so are not finding satisfaction in relationships, in marriage.
[00:30:06]  These are all true.
[00:30:08]  Do you think people are more or less depressed after that?
[00:30:10]  I mean, because depression, as we know, can just be a phase, a season.
[00:30:13]  It is a real thing, I suppose, but this is something that could be permanent.
[00:30:19]  You could potentially effectively turn yourself into a eunuch.
[00:30:24]  I mean, this is all real.
[00:30:25]  This is all real stuff here.
[00:30:28]  43% could get addicted to these kinds of things, these sorts of SSRIs.
[00:30:33]  So, no, fact post, no.
[00:30:35]  Decades of research does not show SSRIs are safe and effective.
[00:30:38]  Effective, maybe.
[00:30:40]  It does seem to be that people don't report depression as much when they utilize it.
[00:30:44]  That's probably true.
[00:30:46]  But then they get this cocktail of other issues with their life an array of issues that could come along with this emotional bluntness.
[00:30:53]  Do you know how terrifying that is?
[00:30:55]  And this isn't like stoicism, because if you're stoic, you're experiencing emotion.
[00:30:58]  You're just choosing not to let this manifest and affect your mood or the way you carry yourself or the way you treat other people.
[00:31:05]  This is quite literally people turning into zombies.

=== Elbridge Colby Catholic Ops (14:51) ===

[00:31:12]  This is what these drugs do.
[00:31:13]  They target serotonin.
[00:31:14]  This is what SSRIs functionally do, it's perceived that they're not actually curing the depression, so to speak, whatever that is.
[00:31:22]  They're simply trying to boost serotonin production.
[00:31:25]  So, inflate your feeling of happiness.
[00:31:29]  Serotonin, a chemical that carries messages between nerve cells in the brain, has been dubbed as the pleasure chemical SSRIs, inhibitors.
[00:31:38]  It boosts your serotonin production.
[00:31:40]  That is what's going on here.
[00:31:41]  Maybe not pretty, it alters your serotonin production.
[00:31:45]  Ladies and gentlemen, we're in trouble.
[00:31:46]  So, with that, we're going to bring on the great Wade Searle.
[00:31:49]  Marco Rubio is a Catholic, not Mormon.
[00:31:51]  Christopher Hale, the man pushing this lie, also pushed a story in April claiming Pentagon official Elbridge Colby.
[00:31:55]  Has threatened Cardinal Pierre in a 2026 meeting, which turned out to be fake.
[00:31:58]  What is Hale's goal here?
[00:31:59]  This is what I'm going to talk about with him.
[00:32:01]  This is what I wanted to talk about last week.
[00:32:02]  What is going on in Catholicism?
[00:32:04]  I'm a Protestant.
[00:32:04]  These things are kind of foreign to me.
[00:32:06]  This Christopher Hale guy, what is his angle?
[00:32:08]  What is going on?
[00:32:09]  Is there an op at play?
[00:32:10]  I'm not entirely sure.
[00:32:11]  We're going to bring on Wade here to discuss.
[00:32:13]  Let's see.
[00:32:14]  Hey, Wade, can you hear me?
[00:32:16]  I can't.
[00:32:17]  Oh, and we can hear you.
[00:32:18]  We're in business.
[00:32:19]  Awesome.
[00:32:19]  We're in business.
[00:32:20]  Well, Wade, thank you very much for coming on today.
[00:32:23]  Look, people probably saw you.
[00:32:26]  I think it was Wednesday or Thursday, and we tried to previously have you on.
[00:32:28]  Obviously, we had some.
[00:32:30]  Tragic audio issues.
[00:32:31]  So I'm very glad to have you back on.
[00:32:33]  And your thread, this is the thread that caught my eye, was this thread on Christopher Hale.
[00:32:38]  Now, of course, yeah.
[00:32:39]  Thanks for having me on, Tate.
[00:32:40]  I appreciate it.
[00:32:40]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:32:41]  Now, you know, granted, a lot of people have probably seen stuff from Christopher Hale and they're just not entirely sure what to make of him.
[00:32:47]  Maybe you could give people a quick intro of who you are, what you do, and sort of what this whole saga is really about and what it says about this current moment we're in.
[00:32:54]  Yeah, so I'm Wade Searle.
[00:32:56]  I'm a 23 year old recent Catholic convert who works for LifeSite News as their media and Pentagon correspondent.
[00:33:02]  So, Christopher Hale, a lot of people have seen him on Twitter, and he sort of presents himself as this well meaning and legitimate Catholic journalist who's just presenting the facts about MAGA and about their treatment of Catholics and about how Catholic the MAGA movement really is.
[00:33:19]  And of course, he paints this in a negative light.
[00:33:21]  He tries to agitate Catholics against the MAGA movement.
[00:33:25]  And so you can do some cursory digging into who this guy really is, but I think it's important first to point out the stories that he's pushed recently, right?
[00:33:34]  Last week, just before Marco Rubio met with Pope Leo, he claimed that Marco Rubio is Mormon.
[00:33:41]  And so this tweet blew up because, of course, you can just Google this information.
[00:33:46]  Marco Rubio is not Mormon, he's Catholic.
[00:33:49]  Marco Rubio attended a Mormon church in his teenage years.
[00:33:54]  So he was Mormon for a little bit and then converted to Catholicism and attends a Catholic church.
[00:33:59]  So Marco Rubio is Catholic.
[00:34:02]  Obviously, that's just like straight up disinformation.
[00:34:05]  And of course, when he's pushed on this, everyone in the replies is saying, This just like blatantly isn't true.
[00:34:11]  He says, Oh, well, like, read my sub stack to find out, like, my full, you know, here's the link.
[00:34:17]  Here's the link to all my socials, and you can find my full analysis on Marco Rubio.
[00:34:22]  This is the same guy who, back in April, was pushing this big story your audience may remember, where Cardinal Pierre met with Pentagon official Elbridge Colby, and they were meeting over the war in Iran.
[00:34:35]  And there was this big report that Elbridge Colby threatened the Vatican.
[00:34:39]  Threatened Cardinal Pierre and said the Vatican better support what Trump is doing in Iran, basically, or else.
[00:34:47]  And it turned out, you know, so this story blows up.
[00:34:50]  The mainstream media covers this.
[00:34:52]  This is one of Hale's most viewed tweets.
[00:34:54]  This is one of his most viewed threads and stories.
[00:34:57]  This is a huge claim to fame for him this year.
[00:35:00]  And it turns out later, the entire story is fake.
[00:35:04]  Like this just never happened.
[00:35:05]  The threat never happened.
[00:35:06]  The Holy See denies this.
[00:35:08]  Cardinal Pierre denies this.
[00:35:10]  They all say that the meeting was tense, but it was cordial and there was no threats made, nothing like that.
[00:35:15]  The Pentagon denies this.
[00:35:17]  And so it comes out after the fact, you know, after all the views roll in, after he gets the Twitter payout, after this lie essentially spreads around the country, suddenly the truth comes out.
[00:35:28]  But of course, you know, in the current media space we're in, the truth does not spread as fast as these lies.
[00:35:34]  Yeah.
[00:35:35]  It takes absurdly and exponentially more energy to disprove a lie than it does to tell a good one.
[00:35:42]  And so what Christopher Hale does is he pushes just straight up falsehoods that sort of, and there's two goals here.
[00:35:51]  And this is important for people to remember.
[00:35:53]  One of the goals, of course, is to align and confuse Catholics.
[00:35:58]  So, misalign and confuse Catholics.
[00:36:01]  So, a lot of Catholics, unfortunately, a lot of cradle Catholics are not really well catechized into the faith.
[00:36:07]  For example, 70% of cradle Catholics think that the Eucharist is merely symbolic, whereas it actually has.
[00:36:14]  Based on Protestantism?
[00:36:15]  Christ has real presence in the Eucharist, and Christ is truly present in the Eucharist.
[00:36:20]  Right.
[00:36:20]  Um, so a lot of cradle Catholics are not really very well informed in their faith, and so Christopher Hale is sort of cynically using this fact.
[00:36:28]  And, um, you know, he started this organization, Catholics for Harris, in the 2024 election.
[00:36:35]  And specifically, what he said to the media who asked him, you know, why did you start this?
[00:36:41]  Like, what's your goal with this?
[00:36:42]  He said that he wanted to give Catholics permission structures to vote for Harris.
[00:36:47]  So, a lot of Catholics are like, you know, Harris supports abortion, isn't that against the Catholic faith?
[00:36:51]  And so, and they would be correct.
[00:36:54]  And so Christopher Hale's goal here is to misalign and confuse Catholics into basically supporting the Democrat agenda.
[00:37:03]  He's trying to twist Catholic doctrine in a way where Catholics who maybe don't know their faith as well, maybe can't defend it as well in their minds or to their friends, can be sort of convinced you know, maybe I can vote for Kamala Harris.
[00:37:18]  Maybe I can vote for these pro abortion Democrats.
[00:37:21]  Yeah.
[00:37:21]  Or maybe I can just stay home.
[00:37:22]  You know, I see that.
[00:37:24]  Marco Rubio is this Mormon who hates the Pope, and the Pentagon's threatening the Vatican and they hate my faith.
[00:37:31]  Well, maybe I'll just stay home, you know?
[00:37:33]  And so, this is, of course, his goal.
[00:37:35]  But who actually is Christopher Hale, right?
[00:37:38]  This is the important part.
[00:37:39]  So, he worked for the Obama Biden White House and campaign, and then he went on to run for Congress and obviously failed.
[00:37:47]  But it's important to note in his congressional platform, he had a section on his website, which is still up.
[00:37:55]  Where it says, you know, this is his position, official position on choice.
[00:37:59]  By the way, he ran as a pro life Democrat, but this is his official position on choice.
[00:38:05]  Roe v. Wade was a monumental decision that guaranteed women the fundamental right of reproductive choice.
[00:38:12]  I'll defend that right wholeheartedly in Congress.
[00:38:15]  And the question, obviously, is right to do what?
[00:38:18]  The fundamental right to do what, you know?
[00:38:22]  Right.
[00:38:22]  And so, obviously, this is someone who.
[00:38:25]  Planned on getting in Congress.
[00:38:27]  And yeah, this guy was, you know, spoiler alert, this guy was not planning on being a pro life Democrat.
[00:38:32]  I think that's pretty obvious.
[00:38:35]  So he runs this organization called Catholics and Alliance for the Common Good.
[00:38:40]  And this is kind of where he got his start.
[00:38:42]  This was earlier in his career.
[00:38:44]  And it was expressly founded to subvert the Catholic Church by provoking a revolution within the church.
[00:38:51]  And this was revealed in WikiLeaks in 2012.
[00:38:57]  And it was funded, it got four.
[00:39:00]  It got $450,000 from George Soros' Open Society Institute.
[00:39:06]  Go figure.
[00:39:07]  So, yeah, of course.
[00:39:09]  And it's funny how this, like, always somehow comes back to George Soros.
[00:39:13]  It's like reality, reality just bends to what, like, the boomer, the conspiracy minded boomer thinks is happening.
[00:39:20]  It's like in a lot of cases, they're right.
[00:39:22]  George Soros's fingerprints are literally on everything somehow.
[00:39:25]  Yeah.
[00:39:27]  So, obviously, this stream of like fake stories and just straight up fake news, it's not a coincidence, right?
[00:39:34]  Right.
[00:39:34]  The Democrats have been losing Republicans or the Democrats have been losing Catholics, and they've completely lost the white Catholic vote now.
[00:39:43]  Yeah.
[00:39:44]  And it's been trending more and more Republican over time, especially with non white Catholics.
[00:39:48]  They've been breaking hard for Republicans recently.
[00:39:51]  In 2008, Republicans only won 30% of non white Catholics.
[00:39:55]  Now it's 40%.
[00:39:56]  In 2008, Democrats won 43% of white Catholics.
[00:40:01]  Now they're only winning 35%.
[00:40:03]  So the amount of Catholics who are voting Democrat is shrinking and shrinking.
[00:40:10]  And I think what Christopher Hale and other Democrat Catholic liberal media apologists have sort of realized that there's really no way to convince the majority of Catholics to vote Democrat.
[00:40:24]  And so now the goal is to confuse Catholics and at least trick them into no longer supporting MAGA.
[00:40:31]  And this sets them up for 2028 in a big way.
[00:40:33]  If you'll notice, these people fixate on JD Vance and Marco Rubio.
[00:40:38]  And so they say, you know, any statement that JD Vance makes about the Pope, they say that, oh, this guy, Hates the Pope.
[00:40:46]  This guy isn't a Catholic.
[00:40:47]  You know, look at his book.
[00:40:48]  This, the cover of his book is actually a Methodist church.
[00:40:52]  And so this means he's not a true Catholic.
[00:40:54]  This means he's deceiving all of us.
[00:40:56]  His conversion wasn't legitimate.
[00:40:58]  And now I think they don't really know yet what to do with Marco Rubio.
[00:41:04]  Yeah.
[00:41:04]  Christopher Hale said that Marco Rubio's meeting with Pope Leo was icy because there was one picture where Leo wasn't smiling when they met or something, just like the biggest stretch ever.
[00:41:17]  And also, he's pushing that Rubio is Mormon.
[00:41:19]  So I think they don't really know what to do with Rubio, but clearly the goal here is to paint early as they can Vance and Rubio as anti Catholic.
[00:41:29]  I think they're making an early play to confuse Catholics about Vance and Rubio as we head into 2028.
[00:41:35]  I mean, I think you're absolutely right.
[00:41:36]  And this is why I'm so glad you're sounding the alarm bell on it.
[00:41:38]  Because, I mean, look, I was making this point when that initial Elbridge Colby story blew, which, first of all, like I know, I don't know him personally, I know of Elbridge Colby.
[00:41:47]  But I know people that work in fairly close proximity to him.
[00:41:49]  I hope I'm not blowing up their spot here.
[00:41:51]  But when that article came out, I was texting a few of them.
[00:41:53]  I was like, guys, like, what's going on here?
[00:41:56]  And they're like, he's confused.
[00:41:57]  He's Catholic.
[00:41:58]  He's like, what's going on?
[00:41:59]  Yeah.
[00:41:59]  So it was just bizarre from the outset.
[00:42:02]  And they're like, no, that didn't happen.
[00:42:03]  I was, one guy was like, I was in the room.
[00:42:05]  That didn't happen.
[00:42:07]  Right.
[00:42:07]  Beyond that, I think I'm glad you're setting the alarm bell because, you know, at that time, people were saying, well, you're really roughing up on Catholics.
[00:42:14]  And my point was that I was trying to make, at least, was, you know, there's so much vitriol targeted towards evangelicals, even towards, Like more mainline Protestants, and they're saying, well, they're so susceptible to ops.
[00:42:24]  You know, like obviously, there's been a lot of influence from like the Christian Zionist wing within the broader kind of Christian apparatus.
[00:42:32]  And they're saying, well, you know, they're able to just swindle evangelicals to keep them supporting Israel.
[00:42:37]  And that is broadly true.
[00:42:39]  But my point was, all of Christianity is getting attacked and swayed by ops all of the time because when that initial story broke out, you did see a lot of prominent Catholic people come out and they were like, see, this is proof that.
[00:42:54]  You know, MAGA is anti Catholic.
[00:42:55]  We have no place in this country.
[00:42:57]  And they just basically out of themselves as part of like a fifth column.
[00:42:59]  Like right away, all it took was one fake story.
[00:43:02]  What I think was going on is they already hated Trump for various other reasons.
[00:43:07]  And they were just waiting for an opportunity to be able to justify it by saying it's because I'm a devout Catholic.
[00:43:11]  That's when I posed to MAGA.
[00:43:12]  Because if you look at the bigger picture and you ask most normal Catholics, not terminally online Catholics, they're just like, yeah, I don't know.
[00:43:20]  Trump got Roe v. Wade overturned.
[00:43:22]  So, yeah, he's got my vote.
[00:43:23]  I mean, that's like a really big issue for me.
[00:43:25]  I mean, obviously, the pro life movement in the United States, the engine room has been Catholics, about Catholics.
[00:43:30]  And so, if you talk to those people, they're like, yeah, why would I vote for the party that wants to reinstitute all of the problems that came with Roe v. Wade?
[00:43:39]  I'll go with the candidate that at least puts up a fight.
[00:43:42]  So, I remember when all that happened, and people were like, Yeah, you're really right.
[00:43:44]  But my point was no, all devout Christians in the West in 2026 are devout in spite of their institutions, not because of it.
[00:43:52]  Because, again, at the institutional level, there's so much pressure put on sort of their devout, you know, actual believers.
[00:43:59]  And, you know, I hear this all the time from, you know, I'm a Protestant, but I hear this all the time.
[00:44:03]  The majority of my friends in DC are Catholic, which is, you know, well reported on.
[00:44:06]  The Washington Post talked about it that there's, you know, a big swing in Catholicism among conservatives in DC.
[00:44:12]  And they always talk about, like, I have a lot of trouble finding a traditional Latin mass.
[00:44:16]  And, you know, if I try to take the communion, you know, on the tongue rather than, you know, in my palm, you know, they're like, one guy, one of my buddies is saying, I tried to kneel to take it on the tongue and the priest slapped me.
[00:44:27]  So it's like, there's a lot of institutional pressure to break this conservative strain.
[00:44:33]  The problem is, and I think this is partially why Catholics are swinging so hard to the Republican Party, is because most Catholics that are liberal or ambivalent are just leaving the church.
[00:44:43]  Because we have seen that every strain of Christianity in the United States is losing membership.
[00:44:47]  And I think what's happening is all of these churches, Catholic, Protestant, you name it, are just becoming more conservative because the devout ones are staying.
[00:44:54]  They're the ones that are saying, No, I believe this.
[00:44:55]  This is true.
[00:44:56]  I believe this is true.
[00:44:58]  I'm staying.
[00:44:58]  I'm not going anywhere.
[00:44:59]  So by default, it's shifting these institutions, at least the actual body of believers, more to the right.
[00:45:05]  Therefore, they're going to vote Republican at a higher rate.
[00:45:08]  Is that true?
[00:45:10]  Do you agree with my people?
[00:45:10]  You're right.
[00:45:11]  And the data supports that.
[00:45:12]  The less often that a Catholic goes to Mass, the more likely that Catholic is to vote Democrat.
[00:45:16]  And that sort of scales with age, but particularly with young people.
[00:45:20]  Yeah.
[00:45:20]  Yeah.
[00:45:20]  If they attend.
[00:45:22]  Mass weekly, they are much more likely to be conservative.
[00:45:25]  They're much more likely to vote Republican in America.
[00:45:27]  And if they only go every few months, or maybe if they don't go at all, almost all of that group is Democrat.
[00:45:33]  And of course, they become all groups become more conservative as they get older.
[00:45:38]  And the data shows that.
[00:45:40]  But I think it's interesting, you know, there's this particular attempt to sort of like negatively polarize Catholics into joining the Democrat Party.
[00:45:49]  I think it's really not working because Catholics know what the Democrat Party is.
[00:45:53]  Like, this is the party of.
[00:45:54]  Third trimester abortions.
[00:45:56]  This is the party of child sex changes.
[00:45:59]  This is the party where everybody is transgender, right?
[00:46:02]  And so Harris runs.

=== Catholics vs Democrat Party (12:59) ===

[00:46:03]  Harris does horribly with Catholics, like historically bad with Catholics.
[00:46:09]  And it's because Catholics saw what the Biden administration was like, right?
[00:46:14]  The Biden administration, there were text messages revealing the Senate investigation where two Biden DOJ lawyers were planning to prosecute Catholic nuns that wear traditional veils.
[00:46:24]  And they literally said, I'd like to prosecute any nun that's Still wears the head habit.
[00:46:29]  Ha ha ha.
[00:46:30]  And it's like, you know, this is clearly not a party that is friendly to Catholics.
[00:46:34]  This is the administration, the Biden administration monitored a traditional priest and his family, opened a profile in his entire church.
[00:46:41]  There was an FBI memo that came out using the SPLC as a source that said traditional Latin Mass Catholics and their communities were hotbeds for terrorism and extremism.
[00:46:54]  And I'll tell you something, Tate, I go to a traditional Latin Mass.
[00:46:57]  And when I go to a traditional Latin Mass, it's the most beautiful Mass I've ever seen.
[00:47:01]  And when I look around, I do not see terrorists.
[00:47:04]  I do not see extremists.
[00:47:05]  I see strong fathers who care for their families and protect their families.
[00:47:10]  I see loving mothers who love their children and care for their children.
[00:47:14]  I see a lot of young people.
[00:47:15]  I see a lot of young men who love Jesus and they love their country.
[00:47:18]  I see a lot of young women.
[00:47:21]  And this is not acceptable for Democrats to be antagonizing Catholics like this and then lying to their face.
[00:47:28]  What Christopher Hale is doing is he is insulting the intelligence of every Catholic, spitting in their face and saying, You should vote for the party that literally wants to throw you in jail, maybe worse, maybe kill you for your faith.
[00:47:43]  And I don't think Catholics are falling for it.
[00:47:45]  And I don't think they should.
[00:47:46]  So, yeah, people should be aware who this guy is.
[00:47:48]  People should be aware generally of this op that is taking place among liberal Catholics in the media who are trying to trick you.
[00:47:56]  When you see a post, you almost never see a post from Catholic media that does not have an agenda behind it.
[00:48:03]  Right.
[00:48:03]  And so, Catholics need to keep that in mind when you're scrolling social media, when you're scrolling Twitter.
[00:48:08]  What's almost more important when you see a post, it's not necessarily the what, it is the who.
[00:48:15]  Who is posting this?
[00:48:16]  Why are they telling me this information?
[00:48:18]  What is their agenda?
[00:48:20]  And when you take a cursory look into these types like Christopher Hale, this is their agenda.
[00:48:25]  This is the party they're supporting.
[00:48:27]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:48:29]  I'm so glad you're saying this.
[00:48:30]  And beyond that, Christopher Hale is specifically, and sort of his cohort, I do think there's other people that kind of would classify similarly to him.
[00:48:37]  They're doing this weird thing where they're taking on almost like the animating aesthetics of like a tradcath, insofar as like chest beating over the Pope and that sort of thing.
[00:48:47]  But not actually having any of the policies that you would expect to see from a more traditional Catholic.
[00:48:52]  And what I mean by that is, again, when Trump was sort of exchanging blows in the media with Pope Leo, they were coming out and they were saying, This is an attack on the Pope.
[00:49:00]  By proxy, this is an attack on all Catholics.
[00:49:02]  All base trad cats rise.
[00:49:04]  We're going to start a new crusade and take out Trump.
[00:49:06]  And you're like, Are you new around here?
[00:49:08]  This is how the United States has always been.
[00:49:10]  We've never been subject to the Pope.
[00:49:12]  He's been fair game to criticize.
[00:49:14]  That's how the United States has always been.
[00:49:16]  And by the way, every Catholic understands.
[00:49:18]  And then you open his profile, you scroll down, he's retweeting like James Martin.
[00:49:22]  Yeah, I know, literally.
[00:49:23]  And it's like, yeah, first of all, every Catholic is aware of that when they come to the United States.
[00:49:27]  Like, they're not under the impression that this is like some base trad Catholic country.
[00:49:30]  Like, they're very aware that it's the nativist sentiments, how they have existed.
[00:49:35]  But I think what's going on here is I think the first thing is part of the reason that Catholics and Protestants, increasingly so, have been able to sort of link shields is because the secularism in the United States has risen so much that any nativist sentiment that existed, we're just looking around like, I don't know, we disagree on the Eucharist and a variety of other.
[00:49:53]  Theological points, but generally we want the same thing.
[00:49:56]  These people want to basically kill us.
[00:49:58]  So maybe we'll put the sectarianism aside until after we win.
[00:50:02]  Then we can relitigate the Reformation or something.
[00:50:04]  But you have this segment of people.
[00:50:07]  It's Christopher Hale types, but then also there's other, I would say, subversive elements who are wanting to basically relitigate the Reformation right now.
[00:50:15]  When I don't know, if I had to ballpark maybe 20% of the population is actually devout Christian of any stripe, it's like, what are we doing here?
[00:50:23]  And the unifying.
[00:50:26]  I think the unifying factor is this.
[00:50:29]  They are attacking us fundamentally for our love for Jesus.
[00:50:33]  They're attacking us because we follow the teachings of Christ and because we read our Bibles.
[00:50:40]  That is what unites Protestants and Catholics our love for the faith, our love for Christ.
[00:50:46]  And that's what they're attacking us for.
[00:50:48]  When they jail all these pro life activists, when the Biden administration jailed these pro life activists who are peacefully praying outside of Planned Parenthood, They're not like checking what denomination they are.
[00:51:00]  Right.
[00:51:00]  You know, they're not letting the Protestants go and targeting the Catholics.
[00:51:03]  They're not letting the Catholics go and targeting the Protestants.
[00:51:06]  It's just like you're praying, you're under arrest.
[00:51:09]  You know, your hands are folded.
[00:51:11]  And so I think Christians generally, I think there is a lot of Christian unity that is happening because we see the behemoth, the enemy that is standing before us.
[00:51:20]  And it's like, they don't discriminate, you know?
[00:51:24]  So I think you're right about that.
[00:51:25]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:51:26]  And so that's what makes this up.
[00:51:28]  And then Christopher Hale, specifically, I mean, not to like rehash it, but he's literally like a DNC apparatchik.
[00:51:33]  Like this guy on the face is just someone you just shouldn't listen to.
[00:51:37]  Now, the thing, what I'm thankful for, Is okay.
[00:51:40]  I'll caveat this by saying there's not really any such thing as like a normie oracle anymore.
[00:51:44]  Like, typically, when there's a big political story, people will say, Well, I was talking to one of my friends who's a total normie, and he disagrees with your point as to say, Oh, you know, the people that touch grass disagree with you.
[00:51:54]  I don't think that's true anymore.
[00:51:55]  I think everyone in the entire country kind of is affected by the political zeitgeist, even online to some degree.
[00:52:02]  But what is true is, again, if you were to scroll your timeline, you'd be under the impression that Catholics were all like totally agreeing with Christopher Hale, and they're like, No, this is Trump is evil and hates me, or whatever.
[00:52:12]  When you speak to, again, Just normal Catholic people that do have Twitter accounts, but they're not like obsessing over the For You page.
[00:52:18]  They're just like, yeah, I mean, I have some criticism, sure.
[00:52:21]  Like, you know, I do like the Pope, but why on earth would I vote for the party that, yeah, like to your point, jails pro life activists, wants to expand abortion to like post birth in some cases?
[00:52:32]  I mean, it's like very obvious what's going on here.
[00:52:34]  Not necessarily that they don't know what's going on, but it's just they're not convinced that Trump is like this Oliver Cromwell regen.
[00:52:42]  It's crazy.
[00:52:43]  Well, and notice like this guy gushes over like Pelosi and AOC for their Catholic.
[00:52:47]  Faith.
[00:52:47]  Yeah, literally.
[00:52:48]  He lifts them up as like heroes of the Catholic faith.
[00:52:50]  And then JD Vance is like, really, like a minor disagreement with the Pope.
[00:52:55]  Yeah.
[00:52:55]  And suddenly we're beating our chests.
[00:52:57]  We're drawing our swords.
[00:52:58]  We're ready to go to war for the Vatican on America.
[00:53:02]  We're ready to like overthrow the government.
[00:53:04]  Yeah.
[00:53:04]  And I'm, you know, I'm exaggerating, but it's like, you know, where is that attitude when AOC and Pelosi are pushing abortion?
[00:53:11]  Yeah, literally.
[00:53:12]  So this is the pro life Democrat, by the way, the pro life Democrat Catholic.
[00:53:17]  Very quiet when his entire party.
[00:53:19]  Is trying to genocide the unborn.
[00:53:22]  You know, I think that would be like a bigger concern than whether or not Marco Rubio smiled in a picture with the Pope.
[00:53:28]  Like, what are we even doing here?
[00:53:29]  Yeah.
[00:53:30]  And I think, I don't know, maybe you disagree with this.
[00:53:32]  I'm not sure.
[00:53:32]  I feel like Matt Walsh is like a good yardstick to determine like how the average cradle Catholic feels because he just came out when this whole sag was going.
[00:53:39]  I was like, I don't know.
[00:53:40]  I think Pope Leo's wrong on this.
[00:53:42]  He's like, I don't believe every single statement he ever makes is infallible.
[00:53:45]  Like, that's not Catholic dogma.
[00:53:46]  So I don't know why people are behaving.
[00:53:47]  Because, you know, when I would debate some of my Catholic friends, they would reliably inform me that.
[00:53:52]  You know, the majority of statements from the Pope is not, you know, ex cathedra.
[00:53:55]  It's not binding.
[00:53:56]  It's not infallible.
[00:53:58]  But then all of a sudden, this, you know, rift occurs between Vance, Trump, and the Pope.
[00:54:03]  And then all of a sudden, all of these like leftist Catholics are like, actually, no, all of a sudden, everything the Pope says is infallible.
[00:54:09]  And I'm like, you guys can't even keep your stories.
[00:54:12]  Like, what's going on here?
[00:54:14]  I think generally the war is pretty unpopular with Catholics largely.
[00:54:18]  But it's like Catholics support Trump.
[00:54:22]  You know, like we, We see what Trump has done for the pro life community.
[00:54:28]  His judges overturned Roe v. Wade.
[00:54:29]  And I think in a lot of cases, of course, there's always more we could ask from Trump.
[00:54:34]  Of course.
[00:54:34]  Yeah.
[00:54:35]  Like Trump and his administration are pro IVF.
[00:54:38]  I'm heavily against that as a pro lifer and as a Catholic.
[00:54:41]  I'm not too thrilled about the war.
[00:54:43]  I don't think a lot of Catholics are either.
[00:54:45]  But it's like you look on the other side, you look on the alternative, and it's like, okay, with Trump, I'm going to disagree with him on a few things.
[00:54:52]  With Biden and Harris, they're going to put me in jail.
[00:54:55]  Yeah.
[00:54:56]  For attending a traditional Latin mass, they think I'm a domestic terrorist if I prefer the Latin one.
[00:55:02]  And you're not exaggerating either.
[00:55:05]  You're not exaggerating, by the way.
[00:55:07]  Right.
[00:55:07]  There's absolutely no equivalency there.
[00:55:10]  Right.
[00:55:10]  So I think what Christopher Hale is doing is just frankly evil.
[00:55:13]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:55:15]  Do you think, you know, because we are sort of coming down to the wire here, do you think his op is having any success?
[00:55:20]  I mean, you're a lot more tapped into Catholic circles than I am.
[00:55:23]  Do you think people are responding to you that?
[00:55:25]  Do you think that fake news did poison the well enough where people will be considering these things, you know, devout Catholics heading into, you know, the next midterm cycle and even the next presidential election?
[00:55:35]  What tends to happen is the Democrats always fall on their own sword.
[00:55:38]  Right.
[00:55:38]  And so even though if, like, narratively they make a few wins and they kind of like, Confuse a few Catholics along the way.
[00:55:44]  It's always election season when the number one issue Democrats run on is abortion.
[00:55:48]  Right.
[00:55:49]  And so every Catholic who's maybe like tapped a little out of politics, they just like scroll the news occasionally.
[00:55:54]  They see it's like, okay, your two options are Dan, who is like a Christian and has a wife and kids, and then like a black trans person who wants to kill every baby in a 500 mile radius.
[00:56:07]  Yeah, literally.
[00:56:08]  And I think your average Catholic goes, yeah, actually, I'm, I kind of don't care.
[00:56:14]  If Vance was like rude once, you know, I kind of don't care that the circumference of Marco Rubio's half smile wasn't satisfactory to Christopher Hale.
[00:56:24]  Yeah, literally.
[00:56:26]  It's like, so I think Catholics aren't going to fall for it.
[00:56:30]  I think this trend of Catholics becoming more conservative is going to continue.
[00:56:33]  Yeah.
[00:56:34]  And I think it's because a lot of these liberal Catholics are just falling off.
[00:56:37]  Like they were never, unfortunately, they never truly believe the core tenets of the faith.
[00:56:42]  And I think that's actually very sad.
[00:56:45]  But I think, yeah, they are falling off.
[00:56:46]  They're not attending Mass as much.
[00:56:48]  Increasingly, they're no longer identifying as Catholic in the first place.
[00:56:51]  So, yes, Catholics are becoming more conservative over time.
[00:56:54]  Yeah.
[00:56:54]  And I feel like, kind of, the thing, and, you know, again, correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the key thing that's happening here, why we're seeing that change, is because I think Catholicism in 2026 has fully, and I'm using this word precisely here, fully assimilated into American folkways insofar as prior to maybe the 1990s, Catholicism was still seen as like a minority identification.
[00:57:16]  Even if you were like an Irish Catholic from Boston, you hadn't been to Mass in years, if someone asked you, you'd be like, Yeah, I'm a Catholic because what else is there to identify as?
[00:57:24]  But now that Catholicism has really just sort of integrated into the American folkways, like no one, when they hear Catholic, assumes you're like, I don't know, an immigrant or Irish or something.
[00:57:32]  Now liberal Catholics have permission to no longer identify as Catholic because Catholicism as a culture is no longer integral to their self identification.
[00:57:41]  It's just now a religion, as is if you're a Presbyterian or a Methodist or Baptist or something like that.
[00:57:48]  Yeah, I think you're right about that.
[00:57:49]  I think, you know, maybe in the past, I'll, you know, I'll be the first to admit America is not a Catholic country.
[00:57:55]  That's not really part of its founding.
[00:57:57]  Yeah.
[00:57:58]  And I'll be, you know, I'll say this.
[00:58:00]  I think with a lot of Catholics, maybe in the past who are liberal, part of being aggressively Catholic is sort of to like spite the American ethos, which is largely Protestant.
[00:58:12]  I think that was a big play.
[00:58:13]  It's true.
[00:58:14]  You know, in a century ago, maybe.
[00:58:16]  Yeah.
[00:58:17]  But now Catholics are, yeah, like you said, more integrated into Americanism itself.
[00:58:22]  And I think there are a lot of, you know, I think the majority of Catholics are patriots.
[00:58:26]  So the majority of American Catholics, I would say, love their country and love Christ.
[00:58:30]  And I think that's the most important part.
[00:58:31]  Yeah, I absolutely agree.
[00:58:32]  I think that's really well put.
[00:58:33]  And yeah, I think when we win, and I think when our win is so overwhelming that there's no chance of the left coming back into power, then I think we can be free to, you know, relitigate all of this and debate these things.
[00:58:45]  But as it stands right now, yeah, when I'm looking across the aisle and it's like, okay, yeah, we disagree on like, I don't know, the transubstantiation and like papal and, you know, Authority or something.
[00:58:55]  Right.
[00:58:55]  And then, yeah, you look across to the other side of the aisle and they're like, um, yeah, I don't know if we're going to kill you or maybe just torture you first.
[00:59:01]  Like, we're not entirely sure.
[00:59:02]  We're still weighing that out.

=== Wade Searle Faith Safety (02:19) ===

[00:59:03]  I'm like, okay, I think it's kind of obvious who my ally is here and who I'm very similar to and who is my threat.
[00:59:10]  People just have a really bad friend enemy distinction.
[00:59:12]  I think that's fundamentally what this comes down to.
[00:59:14]  Yeah, I completely agree.
[00:59:15]  I think people need to, conservative Catholics need to see people like Christopher Hale as the enemy.
[00:59:20]  It's like, I have less in common with him than I have with you.
[00:59:24]  Even though we're from different denominations, clearly, Christopher Hale, if he were in power, if he had full control over the United States government, I would probably fear for my safety.
[00:59:37]  I don't think I would feel the safest attending traditional Latin mass.
[00:59:41]  I don't think I would feel the safest practicing my faith.
[00:59:44]  If you ruled the entire nation, right, I think I would feel a lot safer.
[00:59:48]  Yeah.
[00:59:49]  And so it's just sort of that idea is like, yeah, the friend enemy distinction, as you were talking about, Christopher Hale is on the other side.
[00:59:57]  That is obviously he is against what I am about.
[01:00:01]  Yeah.
[01:00:01]  I think that's really well put.
[01:00:02]  Well, Wade, thank you very much for hopping on today, dude.
[01:00:05]  It was awesome to have you on.
[01:00:06]  I'm glad we finally were able to make it happen.
[01:00:08]  Where can people find you for more?
[01:00:10]  Yeah, of course, Tate.
[01:00:11]  Thanks so much for having me on.
[01:00:12]  You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Wade Searle.
[01:00:15]  I'd also encourage everyone to follow LifeSite socials as well.
[01:00:18]  You can follow us on LifeSite at all platforms and Catholic Sign of the Cross.
[01:00:24]  Awesome.
[01:00:24]  And can you spell your surname?
[01:00:26]  Because it's Searle, but it's not Wade Searle.
[01:00:28]  So Wade Searle, S E A R L E. Awesome, dude.
[01:00:31]  Well, thank you so much.
[01:00:32]  And we'll have you back soon, dude.
[01:00:33]  It was a blast.
[01:00:35]  Awesome.
[01:00:35]  Yeah, thanks so much, Tate.
[01:00:36]  I appreciate it.
[01:00:36]  All right, man.
[01:00:37]  Take care.
[01:00:38]  All right.
[01:00:38]  Well, that was the great Wade Searle.
[01:00:40]  That was awesome to finally get him on because, yeah, I don't know if you guys remember last week we.
[01:00:43]  I wanted to bring him on when his thread was first going around of how obvious this op is.
[01:00:48]  And yeah, absolutely.
[01:00:49]  I think he's one of the best.
[01:00:50]  I think he's fantastic.
[01:00:51]  And yeah, it's just kind of hilarious that the Democrats really just are scrambling and they're trying to effectively rope Catholics back into their coalition by promoting tribalism and rage baiting.
[01:01:05]  It's really obvious what's going on here.
[01:01:06]  So, with that, thank you very much for watching.
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