Virginia Voters Hand Democrats MASSIVE Win, ULTIMATE Power Grab
Tate Brown reports Virginia voters approved a redistricting measure shifting the congressional delegation to a projected 10-to-1 Democratic advantage, driven by $60 million in spending versus Republicans' $20 million. He critiques GOP leadership for misallocating funds and "sandbagging" races while Ann Coulter argues legal immigration since the 1965 Act harms American culture by displacing jobs. The episode concludes that demographic shifts and failed assimilation strategies threaten Republican viability, suggesting immigration is the foundational issue reshaping the nation's political future. [Automatically generated summary]
This is Tate Brown here holding it down back on this beautiful Wednesday afternoon, taking you from the morning to the afternoon on the Rumble Daily lineup.
I'm very happy to be back with you guys today.
We have some big stories, some big stories.
The lead, obviously, you probably saw the news already.
That's kind of the problem at going live at noon, you already see the big stories already when they hit the newspapers.
But the big story, obviously, out of the Commonwealth of Virginia, to the surprise of probably no one that's been paying attention, the ballot for redistricting.
The state of Virginia.
So, reallocating their House seats passed.
It passed narrowly.
It was a lot closer than I thought it was going to be.
Because if you remember, Spanberger beat Winston Sears about like 12 points or something, it was a bloodbath.
So, I was kind of anticipating something similar, maybe like an eight point spread.
It actually ended up being like a point and a half, two point spread.
So, it was a lot closer than we expected.
But yeah, Republicans are in deep, deep trouble at the moment.
It is quite dire.
This isn't a bit.
This isn't me.
Trying to farm outrage for engagement.
This isn't me trying to doom.
This isn't me trying to sort of make things seem worse than they are.
So you need to tune into my show so I can tell you how bad things are.
No, like legitimately, the country is in serious trouble.
I am not kidding around.
Again, I don't think anybody expected us to win here, but it's really just seeing the headline voters approve major redistricting measure.
It was all you really needed to see to truly believe it.
I'll just jump right into the news here.
I do want to lead for those who usually join the show and then give up after about five minutes, which is a lot of you.
I've been informed.
We do have Ann Coulter joining us at the halftime mark.
At the half hour, Ann Coulter will be joining us to discuss a litany of topics, the great Ann Coulter.
So I'm very excited to have her join us.
But until then, I have a few stories that I want to get into.
This first one is obviously the big story that everyone is talking about.
Everyone and their grandmother's talking about.
Virginia voters approve major redistricting measure.
This is via USA Today.
Virginia voters approve a full redrawing of the state's congressional districts, according to Decision Desk HQ and NBC News, a change that could blunt President Donald Trump's push to expand the Republican majority in the U.S. House of Representatives.
The approved maps could transform Old Dominion's 11 member delegation from a 6 to 5 Democrat edge to an overwhelming 10 to 1 edge.
But if the margin of victory is less than 1.5%, the defeated side has their right under Virginia's election law to ask for a state.
Funded recount.
Republicans could also launch illegal challenges to preserve the old maps.
Again, like that is true.
We could do that.
But as I understand it, the way that the process would take is it would be after the midterms.
So it really wouldn't be of much utility, at least not in the immediate future.
Anyway, 2030, they're going to redistrict anyway.
So, you know, if Republicans can perform well in the state house and state senate, that could change some things.
But again, that doesn't really change the fact.
That again, the midterms are going to be unfortunately not looking too hot.
Not looking too hot.
We're still waiting on the Civil Rights Era Voter Rights Act, which basically created DEI districts in the South.
It created black only districts or sort of like black majority districts.
Again, this is a relic of the Civil Rights Era.
That could see not quite an undoing of this referendum, but chip away.
I think that would give us like seven or eight seats, something in that range.
I think the high end projection would be 12 seats.
We'll have to see what the Republicans do there.
Again, I just don't see any reason to be optimistic on that front because they can't even nail these fights.
I mean, look, I'll just get right into it.
This is what's really annoying.
So, first, just to set the table, you guys are probably all aware, at risk of being a pile driver here, this is deeply undemocratic.
I mean, like, I hate to go full Reddit, but it's true.
Virginia in 2024, 52% Kamala, 47% Trump.
Virginia for this redistricting, again, a two point spread, if even, it's less than that.
But the new congressional seats mean 91% Democrats, 9% Republicans.
So, Republicans for voting 49% against this referendum basically get their entire representation to Congress completely wiped out, completely eviscerated in one fail swoop.
Very nightmarish, but it's our fault.
It's our fault.
I don't blame the Democrats.
I mean, I hate to like, you know, steal man or, you know, do the noble savage thing.
I don't blame the Democrats for doing this because, again, we were the ones that initiated the boss fight.
We were the ones that started this whole process and no one was ready for it.
No one was ready.
They winged it.
They didn't get everyone on board.
You have all these, you know, cowardly Republicans in these state houses and state senates that just weren't ready to take the fight to the left.
Again, we initiated a boss fight here and we got our tail handed to us.
There's no way around that.
They simply want it more than we do.
That's kind of the reality of the situation.
They simply want it more than we do.
There's no way around it.
The evidence for this goes all the way up to our, at every aspect.
It's just a nightmare.
For one, this confirms the political theory, which I mean, it's kind of a, everyone kind of knows this by now.
Again, high turnout is bad for Republicans.
Whenever there's high turnout in an election, that is bad for Republicans.
Look at this Virginia referendum turnout was to the right of every recent election, including 2025, 2024, and 2021.
Again, I mean, sky high turnout.
Now, I voted yesterday.
My precinct was empty.
There were like two other people there.
But the people at the front, I don't know, the poll watchers or whatever, they were like, yeah, but we've had a steady stream through early voting, like the highest they've seen.
So, I mean, even anecdotally, you know, people are saying, you know, turnout is significantly higher.
And then we see it, you know, borne out in the data here.
Again, this is bad for Republicans.
And we got, we started, I had to start asking the tough question, you know, why are we afraid of high turnout?
I mean, that just tells you there's a systematic issue.
At play here.
I'll get into all of this and so much more.
The first one is obvious.
I mean, again, immigration, I hammer on it all the time.
I'm trying to tell you guys this isn't me being like racist or something.
This is me saying electorally, this is bad for us.
Electorally, for the diversification of this country, right?
The demographic change in this country is bad electorally for Republicans.
There's no way around that.
I mean, like every once in a while you see promising results, but generally, this is.
Exceptions to the norm.
The norm is this white residents voted yes, or sorry, rather, white residents voted no, but black residents and Hispanic residents voted yes overwhelmingly.
So, again, I'm not like this doesn't need making some sort of grander point than the simple point is, again, immigration, diversification, diversity, you know, demographic change, this impacts Republicans negatively.
And no matter how much pleading and bartering and negotiations we do with the left, that's not going to change.
That is just simply not going to change.
You have to double down on what we know, what we know works, what we know, you know, again, protect the group that, again, delivers you electoral victories.
That's the only way around this.
I mean, really, as I see it, that's the only way around this.
Asians aren't on this, but they also, by exit polling, voted yes quite overwhelmingly.
So, again, you see here record turnout.
Okay.
Yes, the red counties, the rural counties did swing to the Republican side compared to the 2024 election.
But look at this massive shifts left in Northern Virginia, the D.C. suburbs.
It is what it is.
They're just, they want it more than we do.
They're better at this than we are.
That's the reality of the situation.
Now, again, what we're going to have to see here to maybe bail us out of this, bail the Republican Party out of this, is again, the executive branch is going to have to just ram something through.
Because the donors didn't line up, because the get out the vote operations failed, because of all of that, we lost.
So now everyone is having to look towards President Trump and be like, is there anything you can do to bail us out of this?
We've created another mess.
And that's what exactly has happened here.
We've created another mess.
We just fumbled the entire redistricting process, and now we're walking away losing.
We're losing seats.
The proposal now is that Trump should make DC a square again and like lop off the parts of Alexandria and Arlington back to DC, which happened in the mid 1800s.
If that's the kind of antics we're going to have to do, I mean, look, I'm in favor of that.
Trump should do that.
Do I expect that to happen?
No, because there's probably some sort of tort law reasons we probably can't do it.
Everyone's saying it's as simple as an executive order.
All he has to do is sign an executive order.
He would do that by now if that were the case.
And as soon as he tries to do it, the courts are just going to hold it up and it's not going to happen, at least not before the midterms.
So, again, we're relying on the executive branch to bail us out of these horrible situations.
And I'm just, I don't know, I'm just sick and tired of seeing this.
I really am.
And again, it's just a systematic issue.
They're just better at it than we are.
I mean, I talked to Joshua Lisek yesterday.
He's writing a whole book on why the progressives eat our lunch on this kind of stuff.
And you just see so many systematic issues.
Curtis Yarvin, he put it perfectly.
GOP investment in this election, six gumballs and a rusty paperclip.
Tech lord investment in this election, zero dollars.
Which is broadly true.
I mean, that's a bit of a rounding down, but he isn't the round down that hard.
Margin of defeat, 2%.
Vibes, late Roman Empire.
Very true.
I would hope it's late Roman Republic, but it could be late Roman Empire.
That's a very strong possibility.
But yeah, Nick Sortor fleshes this out quite well.
He will be on Timcast IRL tonight.
It'll be very exciting.
I'll be on the show as well.
Nick Sortor says, Democrat aligned groups outspent Republican aligned groups three to one in the Virginia gerrymandering referendum, 60 million to 20 million.
Why, you ask?
It's a very salient question, Nick.
Why is that?
Why are we getting blown out here?
Because Republicans torched 80 million trying to buy Ryan Rhino, John Cornyn's reelection over Paxton.
Worthless people.
I mean, you see this over and over and over again where the GOP, when they're allocating funding for certain races, they just dump it.
They just dump it into.
Just ridiculous projects.
Like, if John Cornyn is really vulnerable enough where, again, like, sorry, if the Texas Senate seat is vulnerable enough where we have to re elect a rhino, let the voters decide.
Let the voters handle that in Texas.
Dumping 80 million in there, this is largely probably because of lobbying efforts from John Cornyn and his buddies in the Senate.
Again, all these people line up for trying to win the Senate race or the governor's race in New Jersey.
Okay, that's great, but New Jersey is still not even a swing state.
So what's the point?
I mean, no, I love New Jersey.
I think it's a fantastic thing.
There's some Patriots there, but like, Can we spend our money correctly?
This happened last cycle.
As again, if you look at where we spent money, we're dumping money into the California races.
What are we doing here?
I mean, this is just a complete joke.
Just zero electoral knowledge, ball knowledge, quite frankly.
That's really what this comes down to.
Just a nightmare.
Aiden Buzzetti, the great Aiden Buzzetti from the Bullman's Project, he said the results in Virginia last night were so close despite Democrats spending tens of millions more.
Where was the RNC and other groups with the funding fight?
We need other states to pick up the baton.
Why start a fight on redistricting if you aren't ready to win?
It makes no sense.
That's exactly what it is.
I mean, it's like.
Let me try to organize this.
You know, what was the impetus here?
It's almost like they're trying to.
I don't even know how to explain it.
I mean, I really don't.
It's just like these guys don't understand that, again, if they lose the House, that directly affects you as a senator.
Maybe they just don't.
I mean, let's get conspiratorial here.
Maybe they just don't want to work.
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe they don't want bills to pass the House because they just don't want to show up to work.
I mean, it quite literally could be as simple as that.
I think what's more likely is I know rhino is thrown around so much, it's kind of a nauseam, but like maybe that is what it is.
Don't want to see conservative legislation passed.
I mean, that could be the reality of the situation.
And so they purposely sort of sandbag these races.
I don't know how else you explain the GOP dropping the ball this hard, if not for almost borderline malicious reasons.
That's quite literally the only way I can see it.
The voters, for the most part, did their job.
Again, more Republicans voted no in a special referendum than they did vote for Winsome Sears.
For one, that shows how horrible of a candidate Winsome Sears was.
I mean, she was a total joke.
But in addition to that, That just shows you that again, if you would have just put money in the right places, um, this wouldn't have happened.
This would not have happened.
You had a lot.
I remember seeing a lot of Democrats come out and they're saying, I don't know if I can vote yes for this thing.
I mean, this is like you know, seems like a bit of a power grab.
I don't know if I want to, you know, sign off on this.
They probably voted yes, but again, with enough funding, with enough of your sort of pitches being made to the Virginian people, there's a chance we had a different result yesterday.
So, again, Virginia redistricting.
I mean, this is to the voters' credit here.
Liberty University, shout out to Liberty University, 97.5 percent of them voted.
No, on the redistricting referendum.
So, again, you have these pockets in the United States that are still by dictatorial numbers voting for the Republican Party.
Again, they know what time it is.
How do you, if you're the GOP, how do you squeeze a little bit more?
Again, how do you squeeze a little bit more out of districts like this?
Because the reality is, like swing voters, I mean, referendums are a little different because you can win over some Democrats that are just like, there's no way I'm going to sign up for this.
But again, going back to any other election, let's stop trying to win over.
Swing voters, let's get the base turned out.
Everyone has asked, like, why does Trump win elections?
But then the rest of the GOP, when Trump's not on the ticket, struggles because Trump turns out voters that are not likely to vote because they're just excited to vote for him or they have a reason to vote for him.
That would be the, I guess, you know, the explanation there.
Let's put some money in this.
Let's get focused here.
Let's lock in.
Like, okay, great.
You know, we signed up, you know, 100 people at a gas station in New Jersey to vote for their public, you know, register as Republicans.
Party registrations don't matter anymore.
I don't know if you've noticed the Democrat Party and the Republican Party are both like losing membership over the last like 20, 30 years.
There's more and more independence as time goes on.
They got to break one way or the other.
Again, you got to turn out low propensity voters.
That is the key here.
And we just fail to do that, especially if I bet there was a lot of people that didn't even know there was a referendum going on.
I mean, we live in a bubble here online.
I don't know if you noticed that we kind of live in a bubble.
Like, yes, what happens on X impacts elected officials, but as far as everyday voters, low propensity voters, they don't know what's going on.
Did you see that poll that said, like, you know, favorability of Hassan Piker?
And it was like 11% said they don't like him, like 5% said they liked him.
And then, like, 80% of the country was like, who?
I don't know, not sure.
I don't know, unknown.
I've never heard of the guy.
But on this part of the world, on internet land, Hassan Piker is like everyone, all anyone talks about.
So it just shows you we're just in a completely different paradigm.
So I'm just really.
Sick and tired of it.
It's just a disaster.
And the GOP is just slop.
It's just, everything is just slop.
It's just terrible.
Like the propaganda sucks.
We got to get a propaganda fixed here because this is just a real nightmare.
These candidates, I mean, look, this is what we're up against.
I'm trying to think of a good way to parlay.
The Democrats are up.
It's up for grabs, the country, because the Democrats, quite frankly, aren't performing much better.
They are also fracturing, but they're like rolling out these like millennial.
Marketing strategies because they saw how effective Zoran was, and their takeaway was like, hmm, it must be because he's relating to the voters.
How do we relate to the voters?
Let's just like curse for no reason to like demonstrate I'm a real person.
You know how real everyday people curse, quite frankly, they curse a lot.
How could I relate to those voters?
Would it be sort of implementing policy that may benefit them?
Would it maybe communicate my policy, couching it in terms that they would understand, where they would sort of be able to understand how this would impact them on a day to day basis?
Maybe it's just we're not packaging our ideas correctly.
Maybe we should repackage it.
And that's what they've gone with.
They've gone with it's a packaging issue.
So this is like the new thing on the left.
This is the new thing on the Democrats.
It's just like randomly interjecting a curse word as an adjective in their tweets.
Seth Moulton, who's running for Senate in Massachusetts, he's a front runner for the Senate in Massachusetts.
He's a congressman, he's a member of the House.
He just randomly puts up a tweet here This is our effing city, and nobody's going to dictate our freedom.
It's like.
Whoa, whoa, dude, geez, that's how he can communicate to us, the cattle, right?
We're just the cattle.
That's how he communicates to us that he's angry, is because he cussed.
I know, I know, that's how you know he's serious, that's how you know he means business, that's how you know he's an everyday man.
Because again, everyday people curse, and so that's how he can relate to us, is he can just curse.
And like, that's our competition.
This is our competition.
People that think this is a strategy, people that think like repackaging their ideas is a strategy.
Gretchen Whitmer did the same thing.
You know, Schultz is expensive.
Okay.
Again, this is her way of relating to the cattle, relating to the normies.
Just interjecting a curse word for no reason whatsoever.
Again, I'm not like pearl clutching over curse.
You know me, I don't like to curse on the air because I do know people listen to the show with their kids in the car.
We should be blowing these people out of the water.
I know the demographics have altered things, but as far as turning out our base, it should be very easy.
This should be very easy.
To do this is our competition, and look how like the Politico's responded quite literally from Politico.
Potty mouth Democrats have some new fighting words we can't put in this headline.
Whoa, guys, these are like Democrats, but more relatable.
They, you know, they curse, they have new fighting words.
Oh, they can't put it in the headline.
It's so edgy.
These new Democrats, this new batch of Democrats, are pissed about Trump and they're edgy, they're rough around the edges.
They cuss sometimes and they go through and they just like basically pull up all these examples of Democrats, just yeah, again, cursing.
Ken Martin, go to hell.
He said, adding later on X, I said what I said.
Oh my gosh.
It's just like, I can't, I can't handle it.
It's everywhere you look, it's just slop.
This is what I want to get into.
This is another story I want to get into.
It's this Valentina Gomez lady.
I mean, she's been on my radar for a while, but like she just drives me up a wall.
Drives me up a wall.
This is the clip she put up.
This lady gets blown out in every election she runs in, by the way.
By the way.
She's like, I don't know, she's from like Mexico or Colombia or something.
So listen to this video and just watch how she's like basically trying to mask her like foreign accent in this video.
And then ask yourself, is this useful?
Is this edgy?
Is this like, is this providing something new?
Or is this just like gay repackaging to provide, like, you know, like to basically, you know, ring some keys for probably the lowest common denominator?
It's like, this is the GOP after Trump, they take all the rhetoric from Trump and then crank it up to an 11, but without the charm or humor or fun.
There's no fun.
Do you think she's having fun?
Did you watch that video and you're like, yeah, I'm having fun interacting with this?
No.
I don't actually.
And that's the future of the GOP after Trump.
We already kind of got a glimpse of it with DeSantis.
I mean, I'm not saying DeSantis is anything like this lady, but I'm saying DeSantis, you know, one of his consultants came to him and said, hey, you know, Trump, you know, he's really rough around the edges.
You know, he kind of tells how it is.
You should do the same thing.
You know, he says, we're going to beat the hell out of the left in the next election.
You know, kind of use that same kind of language.
So Ron DeSantis comes out and he's like, we're going to slit the throat of wokeness.
And everyone's like, dude, whoa, whoa.
Like, relax, buddy.
Geez.
Like, it doesn't come off as fun because only Trump can do that.
Only Trump can do that because he's serving a very specific purpose and he has a very specific communication style that you can't emulate.
You just can't.
Everyday people can't emulate it.
Part of the reason he can emulate that, part of the reason he can get away with that is because he's like rich and cool and famous and like awesome.
You're not.
You're a random unmarried 26 year old who all she does is poses with guns and calls people like dirty Muslims and loses every election she runs in.
Have a little respect for all of us.
Have a little respect for Carl Benjamin.
I mean, this is absurd.
This is what she comes out with.
Again, Carl Benjamin, very polite.
He's just like, Do we really need this unpleasantness?
I'm kind of starting to see why they banned you from the country.
Valentina, I call it like it is.
You just don't have the balls to say it or do anything about it.
I've had a bigger impact on England with just one visit and a Twitter account than you have in your entire life.
I'm sure being fat is a real concern for an unmarried 26 year old woman, but as a 46 year old married father of four, it really doesn't bother me.
Like, you see what's going on.
Once you really read that, what Carl just goes straight to the point here, you kind of see what's going on here.
Again, is Carl Benjamin really a, is he not right wing enough for you, Valentina?
I guarantee you he's more authentically right wing on every single issue.
He just doesn't couch it in like TikTok right wing sloppulism language like you do.
Yeah, no.
No, thank you very much.
Instead of considering that perhaps I have a point, you attempted to engage in some bizarre cat fight with me through hyper masculine posturing as if you were some transgender chihuahua.
Needless to say, I'm not impressed.
That's what I mean.
Literally, she's like acting like a man.
Mrs. traditional values.
We should have more traditional values in the country.
While I run for office, act like a man.
I'm unmarried at 26 year olds, carrying around guns like they're toys and like cursing like a sailor.
Not very ladylike, by the way.
Not very ladylike.
You're acting like you're not just acting like a man because most men don't act like that because we have impulse control.
You're acting like a crazy, like, rapper.
That's basically what this is basically what the right wing populist movement is becoming a bunch of women acting like rappers and a bunch of men acting like gay guys.
That's fundamentally what's going on here.
I'm just so sick and tired of it.
I'm so sick of what this is becoming.
It's just getting off the rails, and people are eating it up on Twitter, and then we're just getting our tables handed to us at the ballot box.
So, with that.
We're going to bring in the great Ann Coulter.
Let me get this comfortable.
It's kind of difficult with the hat here.
And I'm going to ask her if she's optimistic about the way that the GOP is heading.
I think I can probably take a wild guess at the direction she would sort of suspect, on top of other things.
Well, Ann, thank you so much for joining me today.
I'm so happy to be with you.
Obviously, I don't even think you need any introduction, but maybe for the one or two people who just got an Politics like a month ago, you could give a quick intro of who you are and what you do.
Massive New York Times bestselling author, 13 books, most recently Resistance is Futile, about how liberals keep attacking Trump for illegitimate reasons, driving those of us who are even mad at him back into his camp.
Well, I wanted to bring you in to kind of discuss what you're touching on there, which is I guess I want to kind of reframe the conversation from what happened two weeks ago to what is the future of the GOP?
Because I'm looking around and everywhere I look, I'm just very, honestly, kind of discouraged because, okay, Trump, the divide between Trump and, like, I guess you would say, like, kind of the podcasters, the commentariat.
Very obvious.
We all saw it play out.
Many people are not happy with the way that went down.
To steal man Trump, I mean, you had some of them saying he should be impeached or he's crazy.
He needs to be 25th Amendmented and that sort of stuff.
So I can understand why he'd be upset.
But a lot of people also correctly point out that, I don't know, maybe litigating this in front of the American public during a time in which your approval rating is going down probably isn't the best idea.
I mean, as for whether, don't worry, we're probably going to lose midterms.
He's probably going to be impeached again.
And unlikely they'll have enough votes in the Senate to remove him, which probably wouldn't be good because that'll turn him into a martyr.
Maybe Democrats have learned.
That's a perfect example of resistance is futile.
They went after him so hard, so hard because they can't stop themselves.
They ended up getting him reelected with the popular vote, no less.
I mean, I just think go back to the issues.
You ran on.
Of course, young people and a lot of the MAGA base are disappointed.
The three most important parts of the Trump agenda and how he remade the Republican Party were no more stupid, pointless wars, bringing manufacturing home and not bowing down to the Chamber of Commerce crowd who just are fine with cheap foreign labor, whether it's here or there.
And most importantly, immigration, immigration, immigration, immigration.
We're losing our country.
It's affecting I mean, it isn't affecting apparently the very rich.
They're getting their pools cleaned really cheap now, not even a little slime on the pools anymore.
But community after community is just overwhelmed by not only people who are overwhelmingly bad for our country, they were bad for their own countries.
That's why their countries failed.
You have people who are not used to living with freedom, they're used to authoritarian governments being bossed around.
They certainly have, I mean, even the British don't understand our commitment to free speech.
Speech, forget about a Ugandan.
And they're bad for the communities.
They aren't blending with the culture.
It just seems to me, we were talking about, the friend of mine was talking about Reddit Day Are Today, this totally cool guy who put out the fires, really macho thing during the first Iraq War back under first President Bush.
I just feel like that whole spirit of our country is kind of dying or being overwhelmed by a lazy welfare recipient receiving scamming third worlders, as we've seen with the Somalis and just the massive welfare use, the massive scams on Medicare and Medicaid.
And what was so great about our country, even when maybe technically the GDP wasn't that high, was that it was a country on the go.
It was building, it was creating.
You know, car man, well, starting with the pioneers conquering the West and dangerous Indian territory and drilling for oil.
And who knew if cars would come in?
They put up gas stations, we're going to bet on cars being the next method of transportation.
You had all of these risk takers.
And I mean, you do see that, but the only place you see it now is in Silicon Valley, it seems to me, that general industry.
I asked one of my friends out there, why is it that the only innovation, the only new stuff and power and And excitement is coming out of Silicon Valley.
And he said it's because politicians didn't quite understand it, so they didn't know how to regulate it.
And that's the country we're heading for, just stagnant, getting poorer and poorer, and Republicans will take turns managing the decline.
So, yes, Trump needs to get back to, whoa, shutting down immigration and mass deportations, finishing the wall.
We built any of it.
No more stupid, pointless wars.
We don't want to be the world's policeman.
I don't know how many times Americans have to vote on that.
And to the extent that it's possible with the robots coming in, bringing manufacturing home.
And this is kind of the thing with Trump he kind of has leeway to conduct operations, spend political capital that would be sort of unpopular with the base if he delivers bigly, to use his word, on immigration.
Because, I mean, to your point, everyone can kind of sense it.
I've noticed that maybe people can't quite articulate it.
And this is like leftists will kind of jump on this and they'll be like, well, You know, he's advocating for mass deportations, but I asked my, you know, my neighbor and they just complained about only illegal immigration or whatever.
And it's like, because everyday people can't quite articulate specifically what's going on, but they are sensing what you're sensing, which is sort of that frontier culture, right?
That pioneering culture, you know, the culture that put a flag on the moon.
Everyone's kind of looking around and they're like, that's gone.
That died.
That died with my grandfather.
You know, like when your grandfather passed away, you go, wow, he was a certain kind of man.
And then his descendants are a little bit different.
They're a little bit softer, a little bit gayer, to use, you know, to use language.
And everyone can kind of just sense it.
Again, I mean, President Trump, you know, this is the kind of thing is if he just really, and, you know, we are seeing progress, but I think people correctly understand how dire the situation is.
It's like people are impatient.
This is why I'm not, you know, I'm hesitant.
I mean, I'm a defender of the president, but I'm hesitant to just declare, you know, pop the champagne over immigration because it's like, no, people are desperate.
I mean, people are very impatient and they have the right to be impatient because, again, when I go to Costco, you know, it feels like I'm on some sort of like UN humanitarian mission.
I mean, I think a lot of my ability to see what was happening with immigration, as well as Stephen Miller and others, is having lived in Los Angeles.
And I never understood why, you know, I'd go to a nice state like, well, this was back in 2004 before the Somalis really, really moved in in force.
But back to Wisconsin, I was doing speeches for.
Mitt Romney, I guess that would have been in 2012.
And what was striking about Wisconsin back then, and I'm sure at least a dozen other states, was it was like you were living in 1950s America.
They still had blockbusters.
And okay, you guys don't understand how mass third world immigration is going to change your world.
But do you have any friends in Minnesota where you can talk to them about the Somali surge?
Do you have any friends in Los Angeles or Texas?
Completely changes the culture.
And yes, of course, we can assimilate.
We're very good at assimilating, but not when they're coming in in these multi million tranches of people.
They create their own little ghettos within the country and they change us instead of us changing them.
I think what you say about the descendants of the pioneers is that even people who would like to go out and create and work and would be appalled that they or any of their Their descendants or relatives ever took a handout from the government, you start to get kind of discouraged and think, man, am I the only person not scamming the government?
And by the way, I don't think you are.
So keep being honorable, freedom loving Americans.
But yeah, after just every time the Democrats get in, they're bringing in millions of third worlders.
And I don't know, so far Trump has technically deported only about 800,000.
Well, okay, it's going to take 100 years just to get back to the status quo ante.
I mean, that was the estimate from the vice president.
I remember when he was stumping, he was saying 30 million illegal immigrants.
And it's like, that's, again, that's the number that was given to him with, you know, the quantified, you could track down that number is correct.
The actual number is probably much higher because, you know, a lot of these people that are undocumented, you know, so to speak, I'm using that term precisely here, have no documentation.
We don't know who these people are.
Probably 20, 30 million more.
And then in addition to that, I mean, this entire, I don't know how you feel about this, this entire wave of immigration post Hart Seller.
We need to take a second look at all these people.
I mean, there's some people that came in and they're good.
They've assimilated, they've bought into the American nation.
They're like, I'm done.
My ties, my old country, zero.
But a lot of these people, I see it.
I mean, I lived in New York City for years.
I went to school in New York City.
I remembered, to get really granular here, I remembered some of my classmates, and they would be like second, third generation immigrants from Ecuador, like Ecuador.
And their grandparents came here.
But in their Instagram bio, they would still have the Ecuadorian flag.
And I'm like, That's a little, just a little indicator that says, Hey, I still view myself as other.
I still view myself as outside that core American population.
And that's why I'm like, you know, everyone, I think we've talked about it before.
Everyone in the GOP can chess beat over illegal immigration.
Heck, most, a lot of Democrats would agree with you on deporting illegal immigrants.
But the legal immigration is really what's hurting people.
Like, I lived in Fort Wayne, Indiana for a little bit.
It's the, like, there's Burmese people, people that came from Burma, right?
They came from Myanmar and they've changed a lot of these neighborhoods.
They have all their paperwork.
They're good.
They're not here illegally.
They had official paperwork signed.
That's why the term paperwork American came about.
And it's because these people othered themselves.
Like, this isn't us picking on them.
This isn't like a racial thing.
This is to say, again, legal immigration is actually harming people a lot more because, again, these people can get jobs and displace you from your jobs.
These people can buy homes.
These people can participate in the American economy without actually buying into the American nation.
It took the settlers coming here to create what is this.
Magnificent country.
So, how do you ruin it?
You change who the people are, overwhelm them.
You can take a beautiful, expensive bottle of French wine, and if you pour the wine out and fill it with vinegar, it doesn't matter what the label says.
What you got is a bottle of vinegar.
And that's what we're doing, and people have to get over this idea.
It's weird, particularly after all of the anger, justified anger with college students.
And professors cheering on October 7th, the October 7th Israel attack.
A lot of those people were like not just born here, their parents were born here.
I mean, it's like the level of rot is quite unbelievable.
And then, I mean, you touched on it.
Also, what's crazy is the entire immigration system is like completely warped.
It's, it's, it disincentivizes good people from coming here and incentivizes bad people to come here.
I mean, I think Trump had an old tweet.
It was Donald Trump, an old tweet where he was kind of lambasting the fact that, you know, his, You know, I think it was Melania, you know, coming from Europe, was really getting roughed up by immigration authorities.
You know, her visa process was taking forever.
It was like borderline impossible for a year.
And I know this anecdotally from talking to a lot of my friends from Britain or Germany or people that would pretty much seamlessly immigrate, like, you know, seamlessly assimilate into the country.
They have to jump through so many hoops to get to this country.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
It takes years, et cetera, et cetera.
But then you'll meet someone that moved here from El Salvador or Guatemala, and it's like, I don't know, yeah, I can just showed up and they gave me a piece of paperwork and then, like, gave me a bit of welfare backing, and now I can live in Queens.
Talk to anyone, any legal immigrants, and it's like Dante's inner circle of hell that they went through.
Often you will find, I've noticed in elections that, hmm, that's interesting.
Everyone thought, you know, Hispanics, they're like they're a monolithic group, the way, frankly, black voters are.
Oh, no, not only do no Hispanic call themselves Hispanic, they call themselves, as you say.
Ecuadorian, Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, they're very proud of their specific.
And the idea that, I don't know, a Dominican in New York has any sympathy for an illegal alien Mexican is a fiction.
It was a fiction created by the Democratic Party and apparently believed by every Republican political consultant.
But I will notice that in areas with a lot of, that's sort of a side note, with a lot of legal immigrants, Hispanic or not, they're totally down with Trump's immigration program more than you and I are because of what, number one, what they went through to become legal immigrants.
Number two, they left those countries for a reason.
They were trying to get away from those bums and come to a successful country.
If you bring all those bums in, why did they bother moving?
And I guess to kind of get to the kind of thing we talked about at the top of the show, I mean, this is what freaks me out seeing the direction the GOP is going for two reasons.
Is the kind of, I guess you would say, more right wing side, you know, the more, you know, I hate the term far right because, you know, there's barely anyone in this country that's actually far right.
Um, some of the ideas that they're proposing now, I'm like, is this going to be my two options?
Where one option in the future for the GOP is like the Vivek Ramaswamy, where he just came out and he said, like, he basically reheated the Ronald Reagan line, but like made it even worse.
Where he was like, he said, you know, an Italian, you know, you can't just move to Italy and become an Italian, you can't move to France, but you can become French, you can move to America and become American.
Coming from a guy named Vivek Ramaswamy, who the only thing really truly American about him is his accent, and then everything about he's like, he's Hindu, you know, his kids have non American names.
Like everything about him is, oh, this guy failed to assimilate.
And then the other option I have now, this new emerging, you know, based right, we're the based right, you know, like these guys are clowns.
They're like, hey, in order to effectively get back at Israel, we need to ally with the third world.
So again, like, you know, to like sort of what's the word, kind of cut off our relationship with Israel.
And instead of, again, sort of presenting the case why and pushing voters in that direction, if that's like their political aim, they're like, let's ally with the third world.
Let's ally with the left because they're saying the same thing on one point, which the conclusion for that's going to be obvious.
They're just going to not go to bat on migration.
Look, you know, if you're allied on one issue, you really think all these, you know, Mahmoud Khalil is going to turn around and be like, yeah, we really need a tight border.
That's what we really need now.
So those are going to be my two options in the future.
As I see it, I'm just not really seeing anyone.
That's serious.
Like, no one that's serious.
And I'm not saying Trump, but Trump is like a once in a lifetime kind of thing.
Everyone's trying to be the next Trump.
And it's like, no, what we need next is someone that's serious, that's cutthroat, that knows what to do, and that's focused.
And right now, everyone's lost focus.
Everyone just wants to be entertained or placated.
It's the, as someone made this point, it's like be the American that the Japanese think you are.
Every time you see a depiction of Americans in Japanese media, it's always like, my name's Jack Johnson, and I have a blonde flat top, and I was in the army.
It's like, yes, be the American the Japanese think we are.
One thing I'm sometimes optimistic, sometimes I'm pessimistic.
But on the optimistic side is, I mean, one thing that Trump, thanks to my book, Adios America, has changed completely and forever is.
The public is now woke on the issue, as liberals would say, on the issue of immigration.
To see, I mean, I was banned from Fox News for Adios America.
Now they're basically reading from it.
Elon Musk, every tweet could be, it's often a line or a joke directly from Adios America.
Don't know if the book could have done it by itself, but once Trump read it and ran on the issue, I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle.
I agree.
So, whatever.
Whomever the next Republican candidate is, and no one's going to be Trump, don't try to be Trump.
You should never try to be somebody else, whether you're a political figure, an author.
Imitation never works, but particularly in the case of someone as idiosyncratic as Donald Trump, for good and bad, the next Republican, great Republican, is not going to be anything like Trump, as long as they're good on immigration.
I would say also, You know, really means it when he says no more pointless wars.
That would be fantastic.
And yeah, I don't know.
I think this war is doing a lot, a lot, a lot of damage to the Republican Party.
So I am a little worried about the next couple election cycles.
And this is where I break, you know, from a lot of more vocal opponents of Donald Trump.
I mean, I agree.
I'm still skeptical that this, I mean, I've been against the war from day one.
But in addition to that, even if I were to accept that, okay, the war is happening, let's get the best outcome possible, which I did fall into that camp, I'm looking and I'm like, Guys, this is going to leave us in a worse spot than we were before for a variety of reasons.
I mean, one, you could point to the foreign policy, but also, yeah, again, the Trump base.
Now he has a lot of ground to make up on domestic issues if he even wants to sort of win a lot of those more disaffected voters back over.
And I know everyone's saying, well, the base is still intact.
You know, some polling indicates that.
But again, look at the Republican and Democrat party are both losing registered voters.
Like the independent bloc of the country is growing more and more and more.
You're going to have to win those people over.
And immigration is the issue.
This is why I make this point.
Immigration is the issue, whether your pet issue is foreign policy, whether it's abortion, whether it's gay marriage, whether it's, you know, whatever, it's all derivative of immigration.
Because if we don't have the demographic core to elect right wing politicians, then the rest of that doesn't matter, quite frankly.
Every issue gets easier to solve if you fix immigration.
Every issue we lose on if we don't fix immigration.
You know, as for these polls on the MAGA base, maybe this is fanciful, but I do wonder.
I think the question should not be, are you MAGA?
But were you MAGA in 2016?
Because if you're really angry and feel like you've been betrayed by Trump with this pointless war and kind of dropping the ball on the big issue, immigration, are you still calling yourself MAGA?
So it's almost like self defining those people who are part of the cult and will support Trump if he governs like Kamala Harris would have.
Yes, whatever he does, it's 3D chess.
Somehow we'll pull it off.
And if that's your mentality, you're going to keep calling yourself MAGA.
If you're thinking, wow, this guy betrayed me, you're probably not calling yourself MAGA anymore.
Yeah, I mean, because there's some polling within the Republican Party that are still support for the war in the 80s.
But I'm like, that's mostly people over 65.
And if Orban's anything to go with, when you lose young right wingers, the actual projection of your future, your political future for your movement is quite grim.
I mean, Orban demonstrated that.
If you speak to young Hungarian right wingers, They weren't too thrilled with them.
And I liked Orban.
I liked a lot of his policies, but there's truth to that.
Like, again, you can only define yourself in what you're against for so long.
Eventually, you got to like give something like, okay, this is what I want to see in the future.
And that's what like the conservative movement, I think, is just running out of steam.
But I think the conservative movement in general is running out of steam.