Tim Pool Daily Show - Virginia Gerrymander Vote TODAY, Democrats Look To RIG The System
Aired: 2026-04-21
Duration: 59:47


=== Proposed Redistricting Power Grab (15:06) ===

[00:00:09]  What is going on, Patriots?
[00:00:11]  This is Tate Brown here holding it down, holding it down on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon.
[00:00:18]  Again, this cold spell gripping our nation's capital.
[00:00:21]  I don't know what is going on.
[00:00:22]  I've previously alluded to the potentialities that maybe this is a HARP, some sort of CIA operation going on to demoralize all the Patriots working in the Trump administration as we speak, or potentially Israel.
[00:00:34]  Again, I've alluded to the fact that I'm not shy to say that it could potentially be Israel behind this rapid cold snap in the United States.
[00:00:41]  I don't know what's going on.
[00:00:42]  But it is absolutely Baltic.
[00:00:43]  I'll have to throw on the quarter zip.
[00:00:45]  I've had to retire my light waffle knit and dress shirt combo, and I've swapped it out for the quarter zip purely to maintain warmth in these trying times.
[00:00:56]  But we power through.
[00:00:58]  I don't care what the weather, you know, what the thermometer says.
[00:01:01]  I'm showing up to work because I am paid to be here, and I'm very happy to be here, and I'm happy to bring you the news today.
[00:01:07]  That leaves the question what is today's news?
[00:01:10]  Well, there weren't too many developments on the Iran front.
[00:01:13]  Uh, you know, the Iranians haven't shown up yet to Pakistan.
[00:01:16]  Um, there's a potential, no one's really talking about in the press, but there is potential that maybe they just hang us out too dry.
[00:01:21]  I'm not entirely sure what is going on there, but uh, again, it's just a situation of like we are talking past each other, right?
[00:01:28]  The negotiations, there's nothing to negotiate.
[00:01:30]  We have two completely different objectives in this war, so again, I'm just not really sure where the brinksmanship is going to occur.
[00:01:36]  So, I don't really have any updates to bring you on the Iran front.
[00:01:39]  We will probably be discussing, um, you know, some of the more if there is any updates throughout the day, we probably will be discussing that on Timcast IRL tonight.
[00:01:47]  That being said, we do have some other stories that I wanted to get to.
[00:01:49]  Obviously, I think the biggest news today, quite frankly, is the situation in the great Commonwealth of Virginia.
[00:01:55]  Well, the formerly great Commonwealth of Virginia.
[00:01:58]  Today is the final day of voting, it is Election Day.
[00:02:01]  And obviously, what is on the ballot?
[00:02:02]  Well, it is the referendum.
[00:02:03]  It is basically the gerrymandering referendum, or better professionally known as the redistricting referendum.
[00:02:10]  I'm a bit more of an innocuous title that the mainstream media has been applying to it.
[00:02:14]  And it is gerrymandering.
[00:02:15]  I mean, it's the most egregious case of gerrymandering I think I've ever seen in my entire life.
[00:02:22]  For a variety of reasons.
[00:02:23]  I mean, look, the big one is obviously the, let me see if I can find it, Lobster District.
[00:02:32]  I mean, this is absolutely mental what's going on right now in the state of Virginia.
[00:02:37]  I've been keeping an eye on the exit polling to see if there's any sort of updates on polling, how things are progressing.
[00:02:45]  But I wanted to highlight this specific district before we get in.
[00:02:50]  I mean, look at this.
[00:02:52]  This is the most absurd thing.
[00:02:54]  You can see what they've done here is obviously Northern Virginia, the suburbs of Washington, D.C., are deep blue.
[00:03:01]  They're as blue as the ocean.
[00:03:03]  And you can see here this CD7, which reaches all the way into the Shenandoah, all the way into the Appalachians here, all the way into Western Virginia.
[00:03:10]  And then it snakes in, it grabs some more Republican voters here, purposely skirts around Charlottesville, and then dips a very thin little stripe into, again, into the D.C. suburbs, basically to sink the district.
[00:03:24]  That would be the term you would use to sink the district insofar as they gobbled up as many reliable Republican voters in the rural areas, purposely skirting around these blue areas to, again, reach deep into the Northern Virginia region.
[00:03:38]  And scoop up as many Democrats as possible.
[00:03:42]  It is absolutely absurd what is going on.
[00:03:44]  So, I mean, we're just going to jump right into the news here.
[00:03:46]  I mean, that's what I led off with.
[00:03:47]  This is from CBS News.
[00:03:49]  I'll go to the top here.
[00:03:50]  Virginia takes redistricting war to the voters as Democrats seek 10 1 congressional amount.
[00:03:56]  Now, this is a state that voted like 55 45.
[00:03:59]  I think it was actually a little bit tighter than that for the Democrats in the latest presidential election.
[00:04:03]  So, in theory, you know, when you are sort of determining what is going to be the representation in the House of Representatives, You would peg it to election results.
[00:04:12]  You would peg it to, okay, well, what proportion of the state is Republican and therefore needs to be represented by a Republican?
[00:04:19]  Again, that's how you would conventionally sort of draw districts.
[00:04:22]  Now, to be fair, in this latest redistricting war, the Republicans fired the first shot.
[00:04:29]  They attempted to gerrymander the state of Texas in addition to a few other states that came later on.
[00:04:34]  And this is what kick started a whole redistricting war.
[00:04:36]  Now, you know, the Republicans have argued, I think correctly so, that while we're responding to previous redistricting efforts, I mean, the state of New York's been trying to redistrict for Years now.
[00:04:44]  Thankfully, they have a bit more rigid of a court system that just won't allow them to do that, or at least it sort of defangs them a little bit in their redistricting efforts.
[00:04:52]  Well, you know, fast forward a few months into the redistricting war, the Democrats have won this war quite decisively, mainly attributable to Republican cowardice.
[00:05:02]  I would say, for lack of a better word, I mean, the state of Indiana, there was one House rep or House senator, I can't remember if he was a senator or a rep in their House Congress.
[00:05:13]  He literally said the reason why he wouldn't vote for the redistricting effort was because Donald Trump said retarded.
[00:05:20]  He said the word retarded, and this House, I think it was a House rep, said, I'm a no on the vote now because I have a son that has a mental disability of some sort, which is sad.
[00:05:30]  It's understandably so.
[00:05:31]  And because President Trump said a naughty word, a mean word that offended me, I am now going to throw the future of my country in the garbage can.
[00:05:42]  I mean, I think that illustrated quite clearly how the GOP operates.
[00:05:45]  They don't operate to win.
[00:05:46]  They operate to defend their personal sort of standing, you know, how they present themselves to the world.
[00:05:55]  That's what they're primarily occupied with.
[00:05:57]  They can't think in terms of nationwide politics, they can only think in terms of their own career and how they feel.
[00:06:03]  And I know this kind of feels like a pile driver point to make, you know, like everyone's been talking about how weak the Republicans are, and there's really no question about that.
[00:06:10]  But it just really illustrates the point is that they can't even.
[00:06:13]  Lock in for redistricting.
[00:06:15]  They can't even take the fight to the Democrats.
[00:06:18]  It's like we have this situation in the United States where the Republican Party, time and time again, starts a boss fight and then they quit halfway through the boss fight and lose.
[00:06:28]  That's what happens every single time.
[00:06:29]  We started the boss fight in Texas with redistricting, and all across the country, everyone just backed off.
[00:06:38]  They backed off the issue.
[00:06:39]  They came up with reasons why they cannot press on.
[00:06:43]  Further, I'll read here from CBS News Virginia takes redistricting wars to the voters as Democrats seek a 10 1 congressional map.
[00:06:49]  Virginia voters are deciding Tuesday whether to approve a referendum to redraw their state's congressional districts to favor Democrats by a 10 1 margin, the latest battle in the nationwide scramble by both parties to increase their chances of winning control of the House.
[00:07:05]  Polls will be open on Tuesday until 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
[00:07:09]  Early voting began on March 6th, and turnout so far has been high, especially for a special election.
[00:07:15]  As of Monday, more than 1.35 million people had voted early, almost as many as the total 1.48 million who voted in last.
[00:07:23]  Falls statewide races, according to the Virginia Public Access Project.
[00:07:27]  The referendum is seeking to amend the state constitution to allow a mid-district, or sorry, rather, mid-decade redistricting using the Democrat-controlled assembly's redrawn congressional maps, which will give the Democrats an advantage in all but one of the state's 11 House seats.
[00:07:42]  Now, because obviously the state is, again, like, what, 55, 45 Republican, it's very difficult, actually, to even, you know, to crowd out the Republicans completely.
[00:07:54]  They sank one district, as you can see.
[00:07:56]  In this voting map, this southern district here, which is massive, they're sinking this entire district.
[00:08:01]  They're just trying to put as many Republicans as possible in this district to sink it, make it a deep red district, so then the Democrats have little competition throughout the rest of the state.
[00:08:09]  That is what's going on here.
[00:08:11]  Very clever how they've done this.
[00:08:13]  I'll concede that point, I suppose.
[00:08:15]  According to the referendum, the maps would only be in place until the 2030 election, after which the standard redistricting purpose process will resume.
[00:08:23]  Normally, states redraw their congressional maps once every 10 years following the decennial.
[00:08:27]  Census.
[00:08:27]  Again, at the end of every decade, we conduct a census, and then you can sort of redistrict in reaction to that census, which, you know, to be fair, a lot of people are speculating that states like California will lose upwards of six House seats after the next slate of redistricting when the next census comes out, because, again, people are flocking out of California, the state of California.
[00:08:50]  And it's largely true that when redistricting comes around, Republican states are poised to gain seats, right?
[00:08:59]  Because so many people have.
[00:09:00]  Moved to red states, and some people have moved out of blue states.
[00:09:03]  We are set to see states like Texas, states like Tennessee, states like Florida, states like South Carolina gain House seats in the next redistricting cycle.
[00:09:13]  But the problem is it's going to wipe out any potential gains because, again, we just can't take the fight to them on redistricting.
[00:09:19]  And this is what's so pathetic.
[00:09:21]  Democrats currently control six of the state's 11 House seats, and the current map was drawn up by a bipartisan commission.
[00:09:27]  Thank you.
[00:09:27]  I love bipartisan commissions.
[00:09:29]  I think bipartisan is just Code word for you're getting screwed.
[00:09:33]  That's typically what that means.
[00:09:34]  The new map would break up the northern part of the state, which includes the DC suburbs, and has trended more and more Democratic over the years into several districts that extended to the more conservative southern and western parts of the state.
[00:09:46]  It would also emphasize Democratic Richmond and Virginia Beach.
[00:09:50]  So you can see here, they've sunk all the Republicans into this District 9.
[00:09:55]  This is the Congressional District 9, which will effectively just provide one Republican seat.
[00:10:01]  And if you go and look at what the projections are for these other seats, and again, this is the proposed redistricting, if you go and look at any of these other districts, I mean, they're Democrats, even though they are lean blue rather than are solid blue, it would take a red wave to flip any of those seats.
[00:10:17]  It's just really not possible.
[00:10:18]  So it really is effectively.
[00:10:20]  One Republican seat that's even in play.
[00:10:24]  President Trump on Monday and Tuesday urged Republicans to vote against the referendum, posting on social media, Vote no to save your country.
[00:10:30]  Democrats even say it's unfair, Mr. Trump said Monday on the John Fredericks radio show.
[00:10:34]  They say, oh, they'll do it once and maybe they'll go back to what it was.
[00:10:39]  The whole thing is ridiculous.
[00:10:41]  A similar ballot measure, shepherded by California Governor Gavin Newsom, sailed through that state last year, shifting five GOP held seats towards Democrats.
[00:10:49]  Newsom and Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger.
[00:10:51]  Are seeking to even out the redistricting balance sheet after Mr. Trump ordered Texas GOP lawmakers to redraw their congressional maps to give Republicans up to five more seats.
[00:11:00]  Missouri and North Carolina also redrew their maps to edge out one Democratic lawmaker apiece.
[00:11:04]  So the best we can do is squeeze out one.
[00:11:07]  And then the Democrats, they just wipe out the party off the face of the planet.
[00:11:10]  So I'll keep reading here.
[00:11:12]  Virginia Democrats push forward with the new maps in 2026 legislative session, buoyed by the party's statewide successes in 2025.
[00:11:19]  Last November, Spandberger won by 15 points.
[00:11:21]  Democrat Attorney General Jay Jones defeated incumbent Jason Mayares despite Violent text messages that emerged, and Democrats swept both the House of Delegates and the State Senate.
[00:11:32]  But despite those victory margins, the latest Washington Post, George Mason University poll in March had the yes vote only leading by five points.
[00:11:40]  So, again, we'll have to see here when some of this more, when these exit polls start emerging.
[00:11:44]  We'll see, you know, how this is shaping up.
[00:11:48]  I'm anticipating this passes, quite frankly.
[00:11:50]  I don't see why it wouldn't.
[00:11:52]  I mean, look, you can tell that Democrats know that this is a consolidation play because they charted out Barack Obama.
[00:11:57]  Now, Barack Obama.
[00:11:59]  To the surprise of many, has been actually not too active following his departure from the White House, not too politically active.
[00:12:06]  You know, the GOP, or rather, conservative commentariat, has sort of almost hoped that Michelle Obama would run for office.
[00:12:13]  It was kind of bizarre, this fixation that conservatives had on Michelle Obama for the longest time.
[00:12:18]  They always, you know, speculated she would run.
[00:12:21]  And you would never really hear much commotion or chatter on the left side of the aisle, you know, regarding a Michelle Obama presidential campaign.
[00:12:30]  But for some reason, conservatives would talk about it so much they were almost wishing it into existence.
[00:12:34]  And so it was just kind of bizarre that that was happening.
[00:12:37]  There's probably something that needs to be unpacked there.
[00:12:39]  That being said, Barack Obama has come out here and he's been quite active in this Virginia redistricting fight.
[00:12:44]  This was his post that he made Virginia, if you haven't done it already, plan to make a vote to vote yes on the redistricting reform.
[00:12:51]  You can vote early by April 18th or on Election Day, April 21st, to find your polling place at da And he put out a video, and this ad has been.
[00:13:00]  Playing all over Virginia.
[00:13:02]  I live in Virginia.
[00:13:03]  I get this ad nonstop on YouTube.
[00:13:04]  It's like, you know, I would hope that, you know, as AI improves, as data collection improves, that they would know to stop targeting me with these ads because there's not a chance in Hades that I would be voting yes on this redistricting effort.
[00:13:16]  But I take a look.
[00:13:17]  This is the ad that's been circulating in the state of Virginia pretty much ad nauseum for the last few months.
[00:13:22]  Hey, Virginia.
[00:13:24]  Early voting is underway and Virginians are turning out in record numbers to vote yes.
[00:13:31]  By voting yes, you have a chance to do something important.
[00:13:34]  Not just for the Commonwealth, but for our entire country.
[00:13:39]  By voting yes, you can push back against the Republicans trying to give themselves an unfair advantage in the midterms.
[00:13:46]  By voting yes, you can take a temporary step to level the playing field.
[00:13:51]  And we're counting on you.
[00:13:53]  Early voting is happening right now.
[00:13:56]  Election day is on April 21st.
[00:13:59]  So go to iwillvote.comslash VA to find your closest polling location.
[00:14:07]  Make a plan, show up, and vote yes, Virginia.
[00:14:10]  So again, this has just been.
[00:14:13]  On our TV sets in the state of Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[00:14:16]  Sorry, my bad.
[00:14:17]  I don't want to dead name it.
[00:14:19]  Nonstop.
[00:14:19]  It's been nonstop.
[00:14:20]  So clearly the Democrats, the National Democrats, the DNC view this redistricting fight as crucial to their future sort of electoral success.
[00:14:29]  And yeah, I mean, we're talking about a 10 1 map.
[00:14:33]  What is it?
[00:14:33]  10 1?
[00:14:34]  Yeah, 10 1 map.
[00:14:35]  I mean, hello.
[00:14:37]  This is an easy dub.
[00:14:38]  So keep an eye on that today.
[00:14:40]  Again, I'm not really anticipating good news, but if you are in the state of Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, please vote because again, it's one of those things where it's like, look, You know, it's one of those things where if you allow yourself to already accept that this is not going to pass, then it's not going to pass.
[00:14:53]  Sorry, if it's going to pass, then it's going to pass.
[00:14:55]  You have to get out and vote.
[00:14:56]  I mean, it's one of those things you just have to do it.
[00:14:57]  It doesn't take long.
[00:14:58]  I'm going to do it today.
[00:14:59]  I do live in the state of Virginia, sorry, Commonwealth of Virginia.
[00:15:02]  So I will be at the polls today.
[00:15:04]  And if you do see me, say hi.
[00:15:06]  But yeah, this is just one of those things that's like we still have recourse here.
[00:15:10]  Again, like, you know, I know a lot of people are speculating that elections even do anything.

=== Migration Shifting Voter Base (13:11) ===

[00:15:15]  But we did see, I mean, we got President Trump elected twice now.
[00:15:18]  So, I mean, it is clearly viable to some degree.
[00:15:21]  So again, Get out to the polls, we just have to.
[00:15:24]  I mean, quite frankly, this is just a power grab.
[00:15:27]  And look, I know there's a lot of fresh air at the GOP right now.
[00:15:29]  I know a lot of people are demoralized.
[00:15:31]  I know a lot of people are skeptical that the GOP will even be able to perform much better than the Democrats.
[00:15:39]  And I totally understand why.
[00:15:40]  But we're trying to sort of convert the GOP into a more viable political vehicle.
[00:15:45]  And incapacitating them before you even have the chance to do so just seems like a bad strategy.
[00:15:50]  At least that's my consensus.
[00:15:52]  So, We did see President Trump.
[00:15:54]  You know, there was a piece in Fox News that he has a bold option to counter Virginia's new gerrymander scheme.
[00:16:01]  And it is the proposition to make D.C. square again.
[00:16:03]  So, obviously, like Arlington and parts of Alexandria were previously part of the District of Columbia.
[00:16:10]  And then it was lopped off.
[00:16:11]  It was lopped off from the nation's capital.
[00:16:14]  And so there is sort of this proposition, this option that apparently could be conducted without, you know, widespread approval from Congress to effectively just make D.C. a square again.
[00:16:24]  And that would lop off like 500, 600,000 Democrat votes from the state of Virginia and make the state far more competitive.
[00:16:29]  So, again, if they're going to reach for the gun on the table here in this instance, then you have to do the same thing.
[00:16:34]  And I think you have to go nuclear here.
[00:16:36]  Do I anticipate the Trump administration doing that?
[00:16:38]  I don't know.
[00:16:39]  I don't know.
[00:16:39]  I've seen it floated.
[00:16:40]  But again, that is something they have in their back pocket and they should absolutely deploy that if this redistricting does pass.
[00:16:46]  I just think it's a necessity.
[00:16:47]  So, with that, I want to get into this next story.
[00:16:49]  This story, again, you might be saying, Australia?
[00:16:52]  Who cares about Australia?
[00:16:54]  And that's, you know, somewhat valid, I suppose, or Americans and what happens over there.
[00:16:57]  I mean, it's so far away, it's kind of hard to keep tabs on.
[00:17:00]  But this is what I want to get at.
[00:17:01]  I want to get at this point, and I want to, and this is something that I'm addressing the GOP with.
[00:17:06]  Again, this is the latest polling coming out of the country of Australia, the beautiful country of Australia.
[00:17:13]  It's a fantastic country.
[00:17:14]  And I maintain this position that when you pull the knives out, and I see this from Republicans all the time, where they will lambast Canada or Britain or Australia or France and they'll doom post and they'll say, it's so over, you're taken by Muslims, and they, They sort of saber wag at him and chest beat.
[00:17:32]  But they never do that about countries that actually pose a significant threat to us, whether it's like India is the most prominent example.
[00:17:39]  I mean, India, if you ask sort of everyday Americans, you know, which nation is inflicting the most harm on them, you know, in a very tangible grasp, you know, something you can grasp, they'll typically cite India.
[00:17:49]  They'll typically cite India.
[00:17:50]  They'll say, look, their migrants that are coming here are displacing us from jobs, like at a very high rate.
[00:17:55]  I mean, we had yesterday Super Trucker on Timcast IRL, and he explained in detail what's going on at the trucking situation, and a lot of the sort of Gaming of the system is being done by Indians.
[00:18:07]  But you will see, especially from GOP lawmakers, where again, they will dunk on Britain or Canada all day long, which are effectively our civilizational cousins, but then they don't really have anything to say about India.
[00:18:16]  They don't have any harsh words.
[00:18:17]  And the reason why that is the reason why people are allowed to go all out on our fellow sort of civilizational brothers or cousins, but then they bite their tongue when it comes to India or China or the Middle East is because, again, these are white countries and you are accepting the liberal framework insofar as.
[00:18:36]  You are permitted to attack white people.
[00:18:38]  That is fine.
[00:18:39]  And that's actually promoted.
[00:18:42]  You see it throughout media, all the jokes about like French Canadians or Brits or Australians.
[00:18:47]  But when it comes to non white people, nope, sorry, it's racist if you make any jokes, if you make any attacks, pointed attacks on those countries.
[00:18:55]  It's really just transparent and cowardly, quite frankly.
[00:18:59]  Federal voting intention.
[00:19:01]  The one national party that's ONP here is at 27% in the federal voting intention poll, according to YouGov.
[00:19:07]  And this was polled over the last week.
[00:19:10]  Okay, one nation party, you may be asking, okay, what's the situation in Australia?
[00:19:15]  And I'm not like an expert on Australian politics by any means, but I have a general understanding of what's going on there.
[00:19:20]  OMP, again, is the anti immigration party.
[00:19:24]  That is their number one issue, and that is the primary reason why Australians are flocking to this party.
[00:19:29]  That is the primary reason why they are at the top of the polls.
[00:19:33]  And we're seeing this all across the Western hemisphere, whether it's in the United States, whether it's in Britain, whether it's in Germany, whether it's in France, whether it's in Australia, whether it's in Canada.
[00:19:41]  Voters, again, their primary issue for a large chunk of the population and the majority of sort of your core population, your heritage Australians, your heritage Americans, is immigration.
[00:19:53]  They view immigration as something that is sort of displacing them.
[00:19:57]  I mean, they're finding more difficulty finding jobs because they're having to compete with the entire world.
[00:20:02]  They're having difficulty competing in the housing market, again, because they're housing the entire world.
[00:20:05]  The schools have gotten worse.
[00:20:07]  And then, in addition to that, on electoral grounds, I mean, it's just giving left wing parties more and more support.
[00:20:13]  Because, again, it's less likely that, again, your sort of core population would vote for these left wing parties.
[00:20:18]  It's more likely that immigrants and their descendants will vote for these parties.
[00:20:21]  There's just no question about it.
[00:20:23]  You can't get around that.
[00:20:24]  And in addition to that, all the economic reasons I cited, the political ramifications, people aren't stupid.
[00:20:30]  They can just look around and they feel their communities changing.
[00:20:33]  They feel when the composition of their community changes, it feels different.
[00:20:37]  Feels less Australian.
[00:20:39]  And people are scared to say that.
[00:20:40]  People are scared to say, you know, they can cite with like the Somalis in Minneapolis, for example, people cite the crime, people cite the scamming, people cite the political ramifications.
[00:20:51]  But it's still a taboo subject to just simply say, I don't want Minneapolis to feel like Somalia.
[00:20:57]  I want it to feel like America.
[00:20:58]  And the reality is, when you change the demographic composition of areas rapidly, again, it changes the way the community is.
[00:21:07]  There's just no way around that.
[00:21:08]  It is what it is.
[00:21:10]  And again, voters can't maybe articulate that, either just because they can't articulate it or because they're not allowed to articulate that.
[00:21:18]  But that is, again, if you catch someone in a one on one conversation, they will say that that is something that they're concerned about is that their children are going to grow up in a vastly different country than the country they grew up in.
[00:21:29]  I mean, you have to ask yourself Australia has a very similar composition, a similar founding ethos to the United States, insofar as it was settled primarily by Anglo Protestants and then their descendants maintained.
[00:21:41]  Or they compose the elite in the country for a long time, and they compose the majority of the population for a very long time.
[00:21:46]  You have to ask yourself the further that population gets marginalized, right?
[00:21:51]  The further that population shrinks, does it become more like Australia or less like Australia?
[00:21:56]  The same question in the United States.
[00:21:58]  The further we get away from that colonial stock, does it get more American or does it get less American?
[00:22:03]  It's a very intuitive sort of mind game to play.
[00:22:06]  This isn't to say that other people can't be American or that other people can't sort of blend into our.
[00:22:12]  Sort of project that you know, this nation that we have, but it is to say that to be an American is a distinct national identity, it is not an idea, it is not a concept, it is not something that you can just sign up for, it is something that has to be purchased, and it is something that you have to have stock in this country to participate in to become one of the tribe, so to speak.
[00:22:32]  And so, again, voters are reacting all across the Western Hemisphere.
[00:22:35]  Again, the OMP topping the polls in Australia indicates that immigration is still, and increasingly so, the driving factor, it is the driving engine behind.
[00:22:46]  Western politics.
[00:22:48]  And when parties get sidetracked from immigration, I made this point on Twitter just now.
[00:22:53]  When political parties get sidetracked from migration, from immigration, they get hammered.
[00:23:00]  This is what's frustrating to see.
[00:23:01]  In Britain, you're seeing Reform UK, right?
[00:23:04]  This is Nigel Farage's party, the sort of populist right wing party in Britain that's been topping the polls.
[00:23:09]  They're now declining.
[00:23:11]  They're on the decline.
[00:23:12]  They're losing their majority, projected majority in the next elections, partially because there's been an upstart party, Restore Britain, and that's started by Rupert Lowe, who, why are they taking voters away from a form?
[00:23:24]  Is it their abortion policy?
[00:23:25]  Are they tougher on trans issues?
[00:23:27]  Are they better on foreign policy?
[00:23:29]  No, it's that they are more hardline on immigration, and that is what people want.
[00:23:33]  And reform started getting sidetracked.
[00:23:35]  They started quite literally running candidates that were foreign nationals.
[00:23:39]  They were running like Bangladeshi nationals for MP in the United Kingdom.
[00:23:45]  How can you simultaneously hold that you want to reduce immigration while running immigrants?
[00:23:50]  It's just, it's two positions that you can't simultaneously hold, and voters have reacted to that, and they're saying, I don't know if I want to vote for.
[00:23:56]  Reform.
[00:23:57]  I don't know if I actually trust them to reduce migration.
[00:23:59]  You're even seeing it in the United States with the Trump administration.
[00:24:02]  I mean, what has been the number one issue that has sort of propelled Trump to the top?
[00:24:06]  What has been the number one political issue that has sort of established Trumpism, established magism, that's hoisted Trump into the White House multiple times now?
[00:24:18]  It is immigration.
[00:24:19]  What is it that got Trump elected in 2024?
[00:24:21]  Was it his economic plan?
[00:24:22]  Was it no tax on tips?
[00:24:24]  Was it his Roe v. Wade, overturning Roe v. Wade?
[00:24:26]  No, because those issues are downstream from the primary issue, which is immigration.
[00:24:29]  Again, When you change the composition of your country, if abortion is your issue, if foreign policy is your issue, if LGBT issues are your issue, again, you're not going to get those issues across the finish line if you don't have the voter base to support candidates that would implement those policies.
[00:24:45]  It's just not going to happen.
[00:24:46]  And as immigration continues, again, you're just further watering down your demographics.
[00:24:51]  It makes it more and more difficult for right wing political figures to attain power.
[00:24:55]  It's just the reality of the situation.
[00:24:57]  You don't believe me?
[00:24:57]  Look at Zoram Amdani.
[00:24:58]  I mean, case closed.
[00:24:59]  That's all you really need to see.
[00:25:00]  And so, what You know, in 2024, what got Trump across the finish line?
[00:25:04]  Well, he was hurting in the polls.
[00:25:05]  I don't know if you remember going to that first debate with Kamala.
[00:25:09]  He was losing to her, and pretty much every poll that was coming out, he was down quite heavily, actually.
[00:25:15]  What changed things?
[00:25:16]  Well, it was that moment at the debate where he said, They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
[00:25:20]  He was referring to the Haitian migration into Springfield.
[00:25:22]  And what that did was that animated the base.
[00:25:24]  The base said, Yeah, I know, immigrate.
[00:25:25]  That's why I voted for you in the first place, it was to reduce immigration.
[00:25:28]  All these other issues are great.
[00:25:29]  I mean, I agree.
[00:25:30]  I mean, I would like to see our foreign policy changed.
[00:25:32]  Um, even now, I would like to see you know a tighter restriction on abortion, I would like to see um, you know, the trans thing go away, for lack of a better word.
[00:25:41]  Uh, but I'm not going to get that if I don't reduce immigration because, again, that just makes the Republican Party um completely incapacitates them, they won't have the voter base to again get across the finish line.
[00:25:54]  So it's all derivative of immigration.
[00:25:55]  Voters aren't stupid, they realize this.
[00:25:57]  That's why you're seeing OMP surge in the polls.
[00:25:59]  And again, if OMP gets sidetracked, if they start talking about anything else and they start making that the headlines, if they start making that the news.
[00:26:06]  You will watch their support drop like a rock.
[00:26:08]  We've already seen it in the UK.
[00:26:09]  We've already seen it in other Western nations.
[00:26:11]  It will happen.
[00:26:12]  It's all derivative of that.
[00:26:14]  I mean, look how Albanese is talking.
[00:26:16]  This is the current Prime Minister of Australia.
[00:26:19]  This is what they're up against.
[00:26:20]  This is what Australian voters are reacting to.
[00:26:22]  Take a look at this.
[00:26:23]  This is from Anthony Albanese.
[00:26:24]  Again, he's the Prime Minister of Australia.
[00:26:26]  We need to be vigilant.
[00:26:29]  There are some, including some in political life, who want to turn back the clock to an Australia that is no longer who we are.
[00:26:37]  And we need to call out those people, and we need to continue to cherish our diversity as a strength for our nation, which it is.
[00:26:49]  The fact that people have come from all over the world, and there is no better example than the Vietnamese community.
[00:26:59]  So, again, he's saying here that what Australia used to be is dead, as in mass migration killed it.
[00:27:08]  That has sort of risen out of the ashes of what Australia used to be is actually a really good thing.
[00:27:13]  That's what Australia is now.
[00:27:15]  Australia is now defined by its mass migration.
[00:27:18]  And in his language, and if you're opposed to that, if you do want to sort of restore Australia to what it used to be, then you're a bigot or you're evil or you're outside, you're a pariah.
[00:27:28]  That's the message that he's conveying here.
[00:27:31]  It's just completely unacceptable.
[00:27:32]  I mean, look, it's an all out attack.
[00:27:33]  It's an all out attack.
[00:27:35]  This is Amazon, Evolving Books.
[00:27:37]  They're a book publisher.
[00:27:38]  They published Camp of the Saints.
[00:27:39]  It's a It's a book that has been cited by immigration skeptics for years because, again, it's a story that, again, sort of illustrates what will occur when you flood your country with foreigners, what will occur when you flood your country with people from the third world.
[00:27:56]  It's a very dramatic book I would recommend reading.
[00:27:59]  Amazon pulled it because that is what's threatening, again, to the sort of regime as it stands immigration reduction, immigration restriction.
[00:28:06]  And Camp of the Saints typically animates people to, again, want to reduce immigration.
[00:28:11]  That's why they've removed it.
[00:28:12]  Amazon has removed this book, citing, quote, Offensive content.
[00:28:15]  Well, what is the offensive content in the book?
[00:28:17]  It basically actually projected what actually has ended up happening in France, which is again, mass migration has completely changed the composition of the country.
[00:28:25]  I mean, look at this white voters.

=== Republican Packaging Skill Issue (14:42) ===

[00:28:27]  This is the only voter group in the United States that is the majority of them are aligned with the GOP.
[00:28:31]  I know Trump made gains in the Hispanic community, but again, you can't bank on immigration.
[00:28:35]  You can't bank on immigrants maybe just like coming to their senses and voting for the Republican Party.
[00:28:40]  You have to play with what you have.
[00:28:41]  And in this instance, the white population is the only population in the United States that is voting for the GOP.
[00:28:47]  There's just no way around this.
[00:28:48]  This isn't to say that there's not great conservative Hispanics out there or Asians or black people, but it is to say that they are exceptions to the norm.
[00:28:56]  And we can't conduct policy based off of exceptions.
[00:28:58]  We have to conduct policy based off of the norm.
[00:29:01]  So, with that, we're going to get into our interview.
[00:29:04]  We're bringing in the great Josh Lisek, and he's going to come on and discuss his new book, which he basically games out with the great Cliff Mahoney, the Democrat strategy, how they've sort of accumulated so much power, and then how the GOP can.
[00:29:20]  Fight back.
[00:29:21]  So let's see.
[00:29:21]  I think we got Josh here.
[00:29:22]  Hey, Josh, how's it going?
[00:29:24]  Hey, thanks for having me on.
[00:29:26]  Going well.
[00:29:26]  Thank you.
[00:29:27]  Of course.
[00:29:27]  Well, thank you for coming back.
[00:29:28]  You were on fairly recently.
[00:29:29]  So I think many people will remember you from your previous appearance on the show.
[00:29:32]  But maybe for those who don't, give a quick intro of who you are and what you do.
[00:29:36]  Sure thing.
[00:29:36]  I'm Joshua Lysik.
[00:29:37]  I'm a nonfiction book ghostwriter.
[00:29:39]  I've ghostwritten more than 110 books by this point in my career, but I also do a lot of troublemaking under my own name, authoring books and co authoring books.
[00:29:47]  And I have a new one coming out here.
[00:29:48]  We got many of you know Cliff Maloney.
[00:29:51]  He's the get out the vote guy, the door knocking whiz who's been in charge of more than 500 successful Republican, conservative, and libertarian campaigns called Run Right.
[00:30:01]  It is the future of the American right as a playbook, Run Right is.
[00:30:06]  In the post Trump era, what's going to win?
[00:30:09]  For the values of the right, heritage Americans, what's it going to take to push back against the left that seeks power like an alcoholic seeks their next drink?
[00:30:18]  What do you do about that?
[00:30:19]  Cliff Maloney and Joshua Lysak are on the case.
[00:30:21]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:30:22]  Well, I'm really glad you hopped on because I think it's really poignant.
[00:30:24]  I mean, we're talking about today, April 21st, is the election day in Virginia, right?
[00:30:29]  This is the redistricting effort in the Commonwealth of Virginia to effectively eliminate the Republicans from statewide contention, you know, as regards to their representation and the House of Representatives.
[00:30:40]  Massive power grab from the Democrats.
[00:30:42]  And a lot of people have talked about this.
[00:30:43]  They've, you know, it's a very conventional thought at this point is why are the Democrats so much more effective at electoral politics than the Republican Party?
[00:30:51]  So I think this is why this book is actually coming out at quite an important time.
[00:30:55]  Because again, you know, this is Republicans are very good at discussing philosophy, right?
[00:30:58]  We sit around and we discuss policy all day and we discuss what we would like to see.
[00:31:02]  We just struggle to actually implement that policy.
[00:31:05]  And, you know, obviously we've discussed sort of the logistical issues of why we struggle to implement policy, but it seems we struggle to even get good candidates.
[00:31:13]  Across the finish line.
[00:31:15]  And I mean, this book obviously that's coming out addresses that quite extensively.
[00:31:19]  Could you maybe elaborate sort of what the issue is with the Republican machine and why they struggle so much to, again, get candidates elected and get high quality candidates elected?
[00:31:28]  Yes, the issue seems to be one around organization.
[00:31:32]  Organizing is a left wing coded word.
[00:31:35]  What was Barack Obama before senator, before president?
[00:31:37]  A community organizer.
[00:31:39]  And this is something else that Jack Wasipik and I talked about in the book on humans, by the way, is that for revolutionary leaders, what is the first thing that they do?
[00:31:48]  Is they organize a movement of people with grievances.
[00:31:52]  And that same skill set or talent stack, as the great influencer Scott Adams might have said, is repurposed into and out of politics as well as cultural movements.
[00:32:04]  And so when someone wants to wage a campaign, as unpopular as their ideas might be, all they need is a rabidly supportive vocal minority to join them.
[00:32:15]  And now the minority viewpoint, a fringe minority viewpoint from the left, is now in power over.
[00:32:22]  Everyone.
[00:32:23]  And the skills and the resources for organizing your campaign, be it culture or be it political, is now available in print for the right.
[00:32:36]  I think of Run Right as the organizer's handbook for the right.
[00:32:40]  Marshall Gans, by the way, of Harvard University, he teaches a number of courses on community organizing and how to do it at an elite level.
[00:32:47]  He consulted for the Clintons and then the Obama campaign, of course.
[00:32:52]  One of the reasons why left wing causes that are so unpopular, deeply unpopular, are nationwide policy is because of Marshall Gans and his organizing frameworks.
[00:33:02]  And I endeavored more than five years ago to write the Organizer's Handbook for the Right, a right wing organizer's handbook.
[00:33:09]  I didn't quite have the right person to team up with until I met Cliff Maloney of Citizens Alliance and the PA Chase and the fantastic stuff that he's done for Turning Point and other organizations.
[00:33:19]  And it was a natural fit for us.
[00:33:21]  Yeah.
[00:33:21]  I mean, I love this.
[00:33:23]  I think this is fantastic.
[00:33:24]  Could you maybe.
[00:33:26]  Expand some of the mechanisms that specifically progressives have used to overhaul the Democrat Party and kind of some of the ways that you guys have identified that could be applied to, again, the Republican Party to the, I guess for lack of a better word, kind of populist right, maybe for lack of a better word.
[00:33:41]  Yes, there are 18 steps that we lay out in the book to go from, hmm, I should get off of Twitter and actually do something to your values becoming policy.
[00:33:51]  18 steps from point A there to point B there.
[00:33:55]  And it's an 18 step process that the left consistently runs.
[00:33:59]  And it's available in print everywhere, you know, and it's ubiquitous.
[00:34:04]  I am regularly contacted by left wing leaders and organizers to join their cause or the movement, and I get no such often from the right, unless it's from, of all places, Turning Point, of course.
[00:34:14]  You know, Tyler Boyer of Turning Point, the chief operating officer, he wrote the foreword to the book.
[00:34:20]  And Turning Point is one of the few organizations that I think does do this right.
[00:34:26]  And it goes back to fundraising.
[00:34:28]  Fundraising is one of the most important steps in this.
[00:34:31]  I think it covers four of the 18 steps.
[00:34:33]  Are the different aspects of fundraising and putting on events and laying out your vision and telling the proper story that can be pitched to the right people and then win?
[00:34:45]  I think it's often a complaint on the right that, oh, you know, there are so many philanthropists and, you know, the patron way of doing business on the left, and they'll just throw money at anyone.
[00:34:56]  Well, I think what might have on the right is a skill issue that goes both ways.
[00:35:00]  And one of those is pitching.
[00:35:03]  You can't necessarily just put America first on a flyer.
[00:35:07]  And then believe you're going to get dollar bills coming in.
[00:35:10]  It doesn't quite work that way.
[00:35:11]  It's not like cashing a check.
[00:35:13]  If I put an American flag on my thing, people are going to want to participate.
[00:35:18]  I mean, it doesn't necessarily quite work that simple.
[00:35:21]  And so, one of the things we talk about in the book is how to define your core vision in three ways kind of have three planks, three parts, three priorities that here's what I'm going to do, here's how I'm going to do it, and here's why.
[00:35:36]  And they're unified in one simple way.
[00:35:40]  I mean, because that's the thing, because you're seeing even among kind of this newer, the new right, I guess you would say, they're still missing that core component, which you talked about, which was like actual institutional power.
[00:35:51]  Again, funneling money from institutions into our guys' hands.
[00:35:54]  Because, again, they're starting to get the aesthetics a little better.
[00:35:57]  There's no question about that.
[00:35:58]  And that is important.
[00:35:59]  I mean, you look at Zorhan Mamdani.
[00:36:01]  I mean, one of the things that really sort of projected him into Gracie Manchin was, again, he had really tight packaging.
[00:36:06]  I mean, like the packaging on his videos and everything.
[00:36:08]  He was able to communicate, again, Very leftist policies to the people.
[00:36:13]  And if you actually watch the videos, someone that's looking at it at a glance passes the sniff test.
[00:36:17]  I mean, these are things he's able to couch this in language that is quite familiar to, again, just sort of conventional Democrats in New York City.
[00:36:25]  And Republicans have struggled the longest time of actually articulating sort of what their vision for the country is.
[00:36:30]  They've only been able to define themselves in terms of what they're opposed to.
[00:36:34]  And then the Democrat Party is able to sort of, again, articulate, elaborate a vision that sort of pushes forward as what we like the country to become.
[00:36:42]  That's very powerful, that's very animating.
[00:36:44]  And so, again, the Republican Party is maybe not the Republican Party, people within the Republican Party are making strides on sort of improving the packaging, right, of their candidates, of their ideas, improving the general aesthetics.
[00:36:56]  But yeah, we're still missing that vital component, which is, again, you need dollars.
[00:37:00]  I mean, you need dollars to be sloshing around in the market for, again, these guys to get off the ground.
[00:37:05]  It's like, great, you put in a couple of flyers that look really sexy.
[00:37:07]  Great, you put a couple of tweets up that are really snappy and got 1,000 likes, but then your candidate got wiped out in the primary by a guy that's like backed by some car dealers.
[00:37:15]  I mean, that's just the reality of the situation.
[00:37:17]  Maybe it's people don't want to get their hands dirty.
[00:37:20]  I can't really put a finger on what specifically the issue is, but I can't wait to read the book because I think you guys will probably get into it.
[00:37:27]  Yeah, the book comes out on April 28th, you know, one week from today.
[00:37:32]  Run right.
[00:37:33]  And of course, it's both literal and metaphorical and directionally accurate, if you know what I mean there.
[00:37:38]  And this is one of the reasons we wrote the book, is because in the post Trump era, we're seeing a lot of splitting up of the various factions of the right already so far.
[00:37:48]  With various accusations about your America last, Israel first, or you're this, or you're that, or they're the other.
[00:37:53]  And what about Candace?
[00:37:54]  And just all the chaos on all of the different podcast Americans, don't forget the hyphen, trying to get their piece of the action, kind of build their audience in that way.
[00:38:04]  Meanwhile, you've got the gerrymandering coming forward in Virginia, and the language on the ballot, I'm sure some people saw, is insanely deceptive and partisan language.
[00:38:15]  And why is it partisan?
[00:38:19]  Plays to win.
[00:38:20]  And on the right, it seems like many of us are playing to get attention.
[00:38:26]  But think about the power in writing a ballot initiative that is as obviously biased and partisan as the one in Virginia is.
[00:38:38]  Basically, claiming the language, if you guys have seen it, it claims to do the opposite of what it's going to do in direct and explicit language.
[00:38:47]  And it's like, yes, would you like this wonderful thing to happen?
[00:38:50]  Or no, do you want bad things to happen?
[00:38:54]  It's not quite that obvious, but it's pretty close.
[00:38:57]  Why is that language on the ballot?
[00:38:59]  Because the left organized to such an extent that it would be on the ballot.
[00:39:03]  Do you know the names of anyone who participated in that?
[00:39:06]  Most of us, most of us don't, but you do know who Candace is.
[00:39:11]  You do know who that person is.
[00:39:12]  You do know who that person is.
[00:39:14]  You do know what that, right?
[00:39:16]  So we have, unfortunately, on the various factions of the right, optimized for clickbait, engagement.
[00:39:23]  Meanwhile, the left has not taken their eyes off the ball, which is power power over the right, power over everyone, power over anything that stands in their way.
[00:39:31]  Absolutely.
[00:39:31]  I mean, that's a great point.
[00:39:32]  I mean, to your point about the language, I mean, Barack Obama, I played the video before.
[00:39:36]  I mean, I live in Virginia, so I'm getting hit with these ads nonstop, and it's Barack Obama.
[00:39:40]  And he literally says explicitly, we are doing this as a reaction to Republican ridiculous.
[00:39:45]  He doesn't really hide the ball on the impetus for this redistricting.
[00:39:49]  And he says, voting yes is a way to sort of stop Trump's power grab that he's attempting here.
[00:39:55]  And it's quite funny because, with the context, this power grab has objectively failed because Republicans just weren't ready.
[00:40:03]  They started the boss fight, but they didn't finish it.
[00:40:05]  And that seems to be a reoccurring theme.
[00:40:10]  Every time the GOP has no problem starting boss fights, they have no problem barking up the tree.
[00:40:15]  But when it comes to actually chasing the squirrel as it comes down the tree, They just give up and they sit down.
[00:40:20]  So it's just really frustrating to see over and over again.
[00:40:23]  And I think the primary issue for that is we don't have the personnel.
[00:40:26]  And you look around, again, look at the Senate, especially, is the most egregious case, but even throughout the House.
[00:40:30]  I mean, most of these guys are really out for themselves.
[00:40:34]  If they had the choice between saving their country or a glossy description of the New York Times, they'd probably opt for the New York Times.
[00:40:41]  It's just really pathetic.
[00:40:42]  And it's what you're getting at, which is, again, ego is getting in the way a lot.
[00:40:46]  And it makes sense because for the longest time, the right was kind of sexier insofar as, wow, this is kind of.
[00:40:51]  Edgy and on the fringe.
[00:40:53]  We're like in the minority.
[00:40:54]  We're fighting the power.
[00:40:55]  But then as soon as we're in power, people are like, well, how do I continue to amass an audience if everyone is like, our guy's in charge?
[00:41:01]  Well, yeah, again, you just have to figure out what the next frontier is and address that.
[00:41:06]  Instead of actually focusing and like, let's get some policy victories across the finish line here, it's just disheartening, quite frankly.
[00:41:13]  And I'm not specifically even addressing the podcasters here.
[00:41:15]  I mean, I'm talking about house reps.
[00:41:17]  I mean, I talked about before in the state of Indiana, there was a house rep or house senator.
[00:41:23]  And he was going to vote no on the redistricting because Trump said retarded.
[00:41:26]  That was the reason why he wouldn't do it because he was like, oh, my son has a mental disability.
[00:41:30]  And this is very offensive because he was more scared of a reaction from Christianity today than he was from his country completely dissipating.
[00:41:38]  I mean, it's really stunning and on the nose.
[00:41:42]  Yeah, it's a way of having moral authority and moral supremacy in the eyes of your adversaries and your enemies rather than be supportive of your own people.
[00:41:54]  The ultimate betrayal.
[00:41:56]  And often I see this also in Ohio.
[00:41:58]  We have a rhino infestation, right?
[00:42:01]  Republicans in name only, where so often one wonders, why do we need Democrats when we have these Republicans?
[00:42:08]  Governor Mike DeWine of Ohio, a Republican, I will say, has been consistently one of the most left wing rulers of the state of Ohio that we have ever had.
[00:42:21]  He is consistently described as worse than Kasich.
[00:42:23]  And Kasich, John Kasich, was another one of the most liberal.
[00:42:28]  Governors, we've had even more so than some Democrats that we've had in Ohio.
[00:42:34]  And why is that the case?
[00:42:37]  It's because if you rewind in time, the correct candidates were either unable to or disallowed from organizing correctly, fundraising, the 18 steps we talk about to go from the couch to the halls of power.
[00:42:55]  And those 18 steps are not anything that the left attends to bad eyes at.
[00:43:02]  And I think also an unspoken part of it is a lot of Republican men, in particular, millennial men, are living in fear.

=== Systemic Incentive Structures (04:04) ===

[00:43:09]  This is something that I shared with a number of people who were in the know on the matter.
[00:43:14]  And I can confirm it made its way up to the White House that they are aware that this is a nationwide problem.
[00:43:20]  Millennial men, in particular, are afraid of their wives.
[00:43:25]  Conservative men with liberal women who understand the emotional terrorism of left wing manipulation techniques and deploy them within the context of matrimony, using the children as leverage, using the house assets as leverage against them.
[00:43:40]  And so, what we see is those men are going with their liberal wives to no kings protests.
[00:43:47]  They're paying for this or that Planned Parenthood donation.
[00:43:50]  I'm speaking in generalities, but it is a general problem nationwide.
[00:43:56]  Go to Republican organizing events of any kind, and it's boomers and zoomers.
[00:44:01]  Yeah.
[00:44:01]  Largely speaking, Gen X and Gen Y are largely speaking nowhere to be found.
[00:44:05]  Many of the zoomers are young people, unmarried.
[00:44:09]  Some are married, some with no kids, or maybe their first kid on the way, you know, they're 25 or under.
[00:44:15]  But that 32 ish to 46 ish crowd is largely absent.
[00:44:23]  And this is what we gather from the polling data they're mismatched with wives who will not allow their husbands to go and vote.
[00:44:32]  They will not allow their husbands to do this, that, and the other.
[00:44:34]  Nationwide problem that we're aware of.
[00:44:37]  And I could list off the people who spoke to the knowledge of this being an issue.
[00:44:43]  I'm not one of those name dropper types of people in this context.
[00:44:46]  But I will say that.
[00:44:48]  It's not just me.
[00:44:49]  It's not just anecdotes here and there.
[00:44:51]  It is a nationwide problem of Republican, conservative, Christian men afraid of how their liberal wives are going to react for them going to get out the vote Saturday afternoon for a couple of hours for their buddy who wants to upset the left wing Republican incumbent.
[00:45:08]  Yeah, I'm glad you made that point because, I mean, that kind of, as I see it, seems to be the primary issue is incentive structures, right?
[00:45:15]  Like, what is incentivized in the popular zeitgeist?
[00:45:18]  Well, again, the left has set up patronage networks.
[00:45:22]  So, again, if you are able to sort of operate within a broadly liberal framework, you are going to be rewarded as such.
[00:45:27]  And as soon as you step out of that framework, you are punished and you are buried.
[00:45:31]  And women, by and large, I mean, you know, we know this is just human nature, is women look to men to lead.
[00:45:37]  I mean, that's just very natural.
[00:45:38]  I mean, there's, Literally, studies where they will put a group, a mixed group, a gender group that's mixed, and the women don't want other women to lead.
[00:45:46]  They always want a kind of draft, a random man in the crowd to lead.
[00:45:49]  And so, again, women by and large are going to respond to incentive structures that are set up.
[00:45:54]  And pretty much all the incentive structures as it stands in the United States, again, reward left wing behavior broadly or liberal behavior, but certainly like liberal policy.
[00:46:02]  So, naturally, they're going to kind of follow suit.
[00:46:04]  And then the men, again, because they're just petrified of sort of being cut off, rightfully so, because again, that's just the way that the system is set up, they just sort of Keep their head down and a happy wife, happy life, right?
[00:46:15]  That's kind of the motto that has been used to basically rob men of their balls.
[00:46:20]  And it's just quite horrific.
[00:46:21]  But I'm not really hesitant to just blame men for this outright because, again, it's like a systematic issue where it's like, well, again, if men stick their head up and they do bulk, they don't really have any recourse, right?
[00:46:34]  I mean, like, you just talked about the divorce settlements and the power over the children and these sorts of things.
[00:46:39]  I mean, men really are in a really tough situation where a lot of them just kind of feel like they are in line.
[00:46:43]  And that's what you see, even in the Republican Party.
[00:46:45]  I mean, the more moderate.
[00:46:46]  Factions are dominated by women and they will continually reel in men if they get a little bit too harsh about immigration or a little bit too harsh about different social issues.
[00:46:54]  You see it all the time.
[00:46:56]  This is very obvious what's going on here.
[00:47:00]  If you can't tell your wife no, you're not going to be able to deport 100 million people.
[00:47:03]  Yeah, literally.
[00:47:04]  I don't know what else to tell you on that.
[00:47:06]  But I will say that on patriotage networks, this is key and it's something that I think Charlie Kirk was fantastic at.

=== Zoran Drawing Right Wing Heat (02:35) ===

[00:47:14]  I attended some of his fundraising pitches.
[00:47:17]  That man was like a CEO in Silicon Valley of a unicorn startup.
[00:47:21]  Okay.
[00:47:22]  His one particular one that I saw, I think I mentioned that we mentioned this in the book is on the asking for the kind of the ask for the money situation for organizing your campaign or your drive or what have you for right wing American heritage values.
[00:47:38]  He had on screen hit piece after hit piece after hit piece that had been written on himself and on Turning Point.
[00:47:46]  And look what the left is saying about me.
[00:47:50]  Look how much they hate us.
[00:47:53]  You could put down 5,000 or 10.
[00:47:55]  And that was the fundraising ass.
[00:47:57]  Genius.
[00:47:58]  Just absolutely beautiful.
[00:47:59]  And in this book, by the way, So Good They Call You a Fake, which is about business, not politics, I say that haters are your most valuable marketers.
[00:48:07]  Sure.
[00:48:07]  The left understands that.
[00:48:09]  So now what they're doing is they're fielding the personalities who are most anti American.
[00:48:17]  Yeah.
[00:48:18]  Because that's what makes the MAGA irate.
[00:48:23]  Person who's the child of illegal aliens and they have multiple Star Wars names that no one can pronounce, they're going to be your next state representative.
[00:48:32]  Yeah.
[00:48:32]  Yeah.
[00:48:33]  I mean, well, because that's obvious.
[00:48:34]  And this is, I said this on the show.
[00:48:36]  I'm glad you brought this point up because my fear with Zoran, particularly, wasn't actually his sweeping changes in New York City.
[00:48:43]  I don't think Zoran's mayoral stint is actually going to be that consequential for New York.
[00:48:49]  I think New York's already getting worse.
[00:48:51]  That's just obvious.
[00:48:52]  I don't think that's going to change.
[00:48:54]  And we're gonna see more vape shops open.
[00:48:56]  I don't think he's gonna get these widespread, drastic communist, Marxist, Islamic changes that everyone's projecting in conservative media.
[00:49:03]  As I see it, the bigger risk with Zoran is that he draws all the fire from MAGA, right?
[00:49:08]  He becomes boogeyman number one.
[00:49:10]  That, again, people respond on the right and left to see, wow, who's drawing the most heat right now from the other side?
[00:49:16]  Well, that must be what they're most afraid of.
[00:49:18]  Let's double down on that.
[00:49:19]  So, my fear with Zoran isn't that he's gonna just completely destroy New York City.
[00:49:23]  My fear is that you're gonna have Democrats in Kansas who are like, hmm.
[00:49:26]  Where are what you know, which can't you know, which national figure is drawing the most heat from the right?
[00:49:31]  Well, it's clearly Zorhan Mamdani.
[00:49:33]  So, I should again, I should take on his policy positions because clearly they're viable.
[00:49:37]  You know, clearly they scare the crap out of MAGA.
[00:49:39]  And then that's how you get the nationwide reforms, right?
[00:49:42]  That's where I'm like, I think it's more likely that Zoran's reforms hit the nationwide level before they even hit New York City because, again, that's how people respond.

=== Toxic Conservative Commentary (09:58) ===

[00:49:49]  And it's the same thing on the right.
[00:49:50]  You know, you saw people and they said, Wow, Trump's drawing the most heat.
[00:49:53]  There's something about Trump, there's something about Charlie Kirk that particularly drives him crazy.
[00:49:57]  It isn't that they're the most radical or that they're the most unorthodox, but they're the most effective.
[00:50:02]  And so I'm going to, again, kind of resemble those policies.
[00:50:05]  And that's naturally like that's how that sort of reward structure was set up.
[00:50:09]  And the right is that people just said, I need to, it's clear to the left, there's something about these guys that is driving them absolutely wild.
[00:50:15]  I need to reflect that if I want to deliver, again, policy positions that will reshape the United States.
[00:50:21]  Yes.
[00:50:22]  And in addition to the rhino problem that we have, the left has, I call it a dino problem.
[00:50:29]  Democrats in name only.
[00:50:31]  And many of them, of course, are basically dinosaurs in their age.
[00:50:35]  Running for the U.S. Senate this year as a Democrat in Ohio is our former senator, Sherrod Brown, who uses, I will say, MAGA speak.
[00:50:45]  He uses Trump vocabulary in his advertisements and whatnot to sort of try to deceive the working class independent voter in Ohio.
[00:50:56]  Just enough of them to make him think what he's more MAGA than MAGA is.
[00:51:01]  Of course, if you look at his voting record, he's close to somewhere between Bernie Sanders and AOC, basically, with his voting record.
[00:51:13]  But when rhinos run, they talk about how they're a moderate and the values of bipartisanship.
[00:51:19]  Bipartisanship only ever, as a value, goes only one way.
[00:51:23]  Democrats talk about the importance of bipartisan.
[00:51:25]  What do they mean by that?
[00:51:27]  Republicans surrendering in the negotiation, giving up, playing chicken, swerving first, and saying, OK, you can have what you want.
[00:51:35]  I won't get what I want, but that way you won't be mad at me.
[00:51:39]  And it's that sort of abused husband syndrome that many of us are seeing nationwide, where You know, you don't get to play golf on the weekends anymore, but I get to go play yoga, right?
[00:51:51]  All that's in the home has been scaled up to the nation.
[00:51:54]  And all conflict within the nation has now been scaled down, sadly, to the fractal of the home, right?
[00:52:01]  And you don't get what you want, but I get what I want.
[00:52:05]  And that's fair because I got what I want.
[00:52:07]  And that dynamic, left versus right, toxic feminine versus toxic masculine, the toxic masculine isn't these bravado machismo behaviors, it's being.
[00:52:20]  Let's say a genital free zone, not having balls, let's say.
[00:52:26]  And oh, so whatever you want, I just don't make me do anything, don't make me say anything.
[00:52:31]  And that dynamic is very unfortunate, especially when those type of moderate, low T candidates from the right are the ones that get fielded and get the money.
[00:52:41]  It's like, well, they're not going to rock the boat, they're not going to offend.
[00:52:45]  Let's kind of put them out there so we don't make the left too mad.
[00:52:48]  Yeah.
[00:52:49]  Well, that doesn't worry about making anybody too mad.
[00:52:51]  That's a good thing from their perspective.
[00:52:53]  This is why I like Representative Brandon Gill as a candidate.
[00:52:56]  He is the future.
[00:52:58]  He is the future because he is explicitly tribal for heritage Americans.
[00:53:04]  And every ethnic interest group in America who comes here and puts their people in power, obviously they're putting them in charge to get gimmies, freebies, and stimmies for their ethnic interest group.
[00:53:15]  Yeah.
[00:53:16]  Well, what about heritage Americans?
[00:53:17]  That is the future of the right if the right wants to win, is leaning into, not away from, Tribalism.
[00:53:25]  Don't walk, run, right.
[00:53:27]  I totally agree.
[00:53:28]  I mean, because this has been, I think, a political miscalculation was, you know, three, four years ago, it was very in vogue to cite identity politics as the sort of root of all of our political ills.
[00:53:38]  And I was seeing that.
[00:53:38]  I'm like, this seems like a miscalculation, guys, because all politics are derivative of identity politics.
[00:53:44]  The primary reason why people are opposed to abortion is because of Christianity.
[00:53:47]  Their Christian identity is the reason they're opposed to abortion.
[00:53:50]  So this idea that, like, your identity shouldn't inform your politics whatsoever is absolutely.
[00:53:56]  Ridiculous, especially because we're the only ones, again, Heritage Americans, you know, are the only ones holding up their end of the bargain in that agreement.
[00:54:02]  Everyone else is organizing among, you know, identity lines.
[00:54:05]  Everyone else is sort of clamoring for policies that would benefit their identity group.
[00:54:10]  So it's just like a self neutering process.
[00:54:12]  It makes zero sense to me.
[00:54:14]  And it was so frustrating to see that, like, you know, like we'd uncovered fire for the first time.
[00:54:18]  Like, oh, the issue is that people are voting for things that are in their self interest.
[00:54:24]  Like, what are we doing here?
[00:54:27]  Yes.
[00:54:28]  And it's okay, maybe even a good thing to promise the voters you want that they're going to get something that they want.
[00:54:38]  And that's somehow shocking and scandalous and corrupt.
[00:54:42]  But I said, do you want to win elections or not?
[00:54:47]  I don't know what else to tell you.
[00:54:48]  I've been involved in a number of campaigns as a ghostwriter, kind of a man behind the scenes with Republicans.
[00:54:53]  And that's particularly with baby boomers.
[00:54:56]  That was the struggle and a point that I had as a bit of contention.
[00:55:01]  Is, well, I got to appeal to everyone.
[00:55:02]  I got to win people away from the other side.
[00:55:05]  No, you don't.
[00:55:06]  You absolutely do not.
[00:55:07]  You want voracious fans.
[00:55:09]  They have fringe ideas.
[00:55:11]  You have ideas that reflect the majority.
[00:55:13]  And you're afraid of alienating 0.01% of your city, your town, your state.
[00:55:23]  And they're not even going to vote for you anyway.
[00:55:26]  It's like neediness, it's toxic masculinity.
[00:55:31]  I need validation from you, my mommy wife.
[00:55:34]  The dynamic in a lot of these conservative liberal marriages.
[00:55:37]  And I'm on this right now, Tate, because earlier today there's this viral post popping off where there's this man and wife with the transcript of them being interviewed, this husband and wife.
[00:55:49]  I think they're now divorced.
[00:55:50]  But basically, how she decided to become just an absolute abuser to him because he expressed that he was not going to vote for Kamala.
[00:56:00]  And to even think about voting for Trump in 2024, she said, unthinkable.
[00:56:04]  So she decided to destroy his life.
[00:56:07]  As her husband, she now became her number one target to seek and destroy because of that.
[00:56:15]  And that dynamic multiplied that across the nation.
[00:56:18]  And that's why we are in the situation we're in now.
[00:56:21]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:56:22]  I'm really glad you're here on that point because it's so frustrating because it's like you get these guys, these conservative commentators, they'll come out and they'll be like, you should go rescue this woman, this left wing woman.
[00:56:32]  Women just want to be led.
[00:56:34]  And if you come in and demonstrate Sean leadership skills, She'll be coming to the polls with you to vote for their Republican Party.
[00:56:40]  And I'm like, that's not happening anywhere.
[00:56:43]  I mean, maybe some like rogue cases.
[00:56:45]  Congratulations, it worked out for you.
[00:56:47]  That's terrible advice to just marry a left wing woman because, no, actually, she's not looking for leadership.
[00:56:53]  She's leading herself.
[00:56:54]  The entire system is set up to liberate women from men.
[00:56:58]  Like, the entire system is designed to destroy patriarchy.
[00:57:01]  Like, what do you mean they're just desperate for leadership?
[00:57:04]  It's like, again, maybe in rogue cases, but that example you cited actually seems to be the norm.
[00:57:10]  Yes.
[00:57:10]  And a lot of these folks, these fellows will say, particularly on the reactionary right, oh, we're going to repeal the 19th.
[00:57:17]  You can't even repeal the 19th time she's told you no to go hanging out with your friends.
[00:57:23]  Yeah, literally.
[00:57:24]  That's so true.
[00:57:25]  I know it's so egregious.
[00:57:27]  But, Josh, we're running out of time.
[00:57:28]  I mean, that whole topic, you know, that's something that could take up hours, you know, how the right has fumbled the woman question.
[00:57:33]  But we'll save that.
[00:57:35]  We'll put a pin in that.
[00:57:36]  So, Josh, thank you very much for coming on.
[00:57:38]  Where can people buy the book and where can people find you?
[00:57:41]  It's my pleasure.
[00:57:42]  Thank you very much.
[00:57:42]  So, Run Right by Myself, Joshua Lysak, and Cliff Maloney, coming out April 28th, is going to be in bookstores nationwide.
[00:57:49]  But, of course, most places people are going to buy it from is going to be Amazon.com.
[00:57:54]  We're going to have the audiobook edition, the Kindle edition, of course, and the dust jacket hardcover laminated paperback.
[00:58:00]  It's available on Amazon and elsewhere.
[00:58:02]  And I'm over on X causing trouble at Joshua Lysak.
[00:58:05]  Well, awesome, Josh.
[00:58:07]  Thank you very much for hopping on.
[00:58:07]  We'll catch you next time.
[00:58:09]  My pleasure.
[00:58:09]  Thank you.
[00:58:10]  Yep.
[00:58:10]  All right, well, that was the great Joshua Lysak.
[00:58:13]  We always love having him.
[00:58:14]  He was to be crushed the last time.
[00:58:16]  Again, it was this similar topic of the woman question.
[00:58:18]  You know, why are we browbeating guys on the right?
[00:58:22]  You're browbeating them while they're participating in a system that disincentivizes masculinity.
[00:58:28]  It seems like it's a systematic issue.
[00:58:29]  I don't think the problem is necessarily the guys.
[00:58:31]  I mean, there are problems with men, don't get me wrong.
[00:58:34]  But most of those sort of vices or most of those bad behaviors are because of a reaction to how women are.
[00:58:41]  Women, young women specifically, Are deeply unpleasant.
[00:58:44]  There's some exceptions.
[00:58:45]  I have one, she's fantastic, but I'm lucky.
[00:58:47]  I'm an exception.
[00:58:49]  And I, you know, I was single, like, I know how the world works.
[00:58:53]  It's not this, like, oh, you know, just step up.
[00:58:55]  Men need to step up and lead.
[00:58:57]  It's like they don't want to be led.
[00:58:58]  Like, what are we talking about?
[00:58:59]  So, yeah, that's one of my pet issues.
[00:59:01]  We can get into that another time.
[00:59:03]  Maybe I'll talk about it tomorrow.
[00:59:04]  Who knows?
[00:59:04]  But with that, we got to wipe it right away.
[00:59:06]  We got to wrap this show up.
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