Trump CALLS IN To Astronauts On Artemis After HISTORIC Journey Around The Moon
Libby Emmons reports on Artemis 2 astronauts setting a record at 252,752 miles while proposing crater renamings, prompting Donald Trump to praise the historic lunar orbit. The discussion pivots to urgent AI safety concerns, detailing cases where algorithms urged suicide or groomed children, leading to calls for government-mandated testing and parental opt-in policies against unregulated digital tools. Ultimately, the episode highlights the critical need to "cage" artificial intelligence before it causes irreversible harm to vulnerable populations. [Automatically generated summary]
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So there's been a new milestone for humankind, NASA tells us.
The crew of Artemis 2 are now the farthest.
Any human has ever traveled, reaching a maximum distance of 252,752 miles from Earth.
They've traveled all the way around the other side of the moon.
They sent back photographs of what the Earth looks like from that side of the moon, and they've sent messages back about, you know, how we're all humans.
And it's pretty hard to look out at the universe and see anything other than this wild oasis of Earth that we have that we call home.
So that's been pretty inspiring.
There has been a lot of really interesting things coming back.
One of the things that the astronauts have done is they have commemorated their trip by announcing suggestions to rename certain features on the moon to honor the Orion spacecraft one named Integrity, as well as one named after Commander Reed Weissman's late wife Carol, who died from cancer in 2020.
So, this was actually a very emotional moment.
I want to share it with you guys.
Can we play that?
No, it's right there.
Oh.
We're going to play that for you.
It was a very emotional moment.
There's been some controversy about NASA, and a lot of people have sort of ignored NASA for many years.
Do we have it?
Are we ready?
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Thank you, Houston.
We have a couple more things we'd like to take this moment for.
Our science team helped us out with a couple of relatively fresh craters on the moon that have not. been previously named and our crew would like to propose a couple of potential names for those items or those areas.
And we spent a bit of time this morning looking out the window and we're able to see them now both with our naked eye and through the long lens and so we feel this is a good time to send this down and a special shout out to Kelsey for helping us with this.
The first one we'd like to suggest is a named crater in honor of our great spacecraft, Integrity.
And so if you were to look at Oriental on the far side and then draw a line straight up to Ohm on the far side, relatively in the middle is an unnamed crater, and we would like to suggest it be called Integrity in the future.
And the second one, and especially meaningful for this crew, is a number of years ago we started this journey in our close-knit astronaut family, and we lost a loved one.
And there's a feature in a really neat place on the moon, and it is on the near side far side boundary.
In fact, it's just on the near side of that boundary.
And so at certain times of the moon's transit around Earth, we will be able to see this from Earth.
And so we lost a loved one.
Her name was Carol, the spouse of Reed, the mother of Katie and Ellie.
And if you want to find this one, you look at Glushko, and it's just to the northwest of that, at the same latitude as Ohm, and it's a bright spot on the moon.
So we would like to call it Carol, and you spell that C A R R O L L.
Just like surveyors get to name the streets, astronauts get to name craters on the moon and other celestial bodies.
There's always been a fascination for me with NASA and with space travel.
Anyone who's been following along knows I'm really into Trek and I'm very interested in the fantasy of the future that we have created sort of as a species looking forward or as Americans perhaps.
And it's a place where we can put all of our dreams.
We can recognize that the Earth is not just, you know, the only place where we can imagine ourselves.
We can imagine something greater and beyond ourselves.
And that's one of the things that I absolutely.
Love about NASA and space exploration.
And that's why, even though you'll have all the progressives screaming about how there's still problems on Earth, so why are we going to space?
That's why we're going to space.
We're going to space because we can dream.
We have another story up about Artemis.
This is from the post millennial, of course.
Trump called in to the Artemis crew after their flyby where they swung around the moon.
They were out of touch with Earth for 40 minutes, took a bunch of photos, and Donald Trump called in and said, He said, today you've made history and made all America really proud.
Humans have never really seen anything quite like what you're doing in a manned spacecraft.
It's really special.
He praised their courage and their genius and called the mission a key step in NASA's push to return astronauts to the lunar surface for the first time in more than 50 years.
The record of Artemis II, they just broke the record that had been previously from Apollo 13, who had their mission in 1970 when they swung around the moon.
That was, of course, under emergency circumstances, and they were desperate to get home.
So it's pretty cool that this time it was intentional.
I hope you guys are all following along.
We're going to keep following along with the Artemis mission.
They're set to land back near, I think, San Diego in a couple of days.
They've got a couple more experiments, I think, to do, and then they'll be heading home.
That's, of course, the most difficult part of the journey the re entry, most difficult other than the launch.
So we'll, you know, we'll send our prayers up.
For them, that they all make it home safely.
We can move on to the next one there.
Brandon, next story.
I don't think I have control of my mouse.
Oh, I do.
Nice.
Look at that.
I have control of my mouse.
This was really fun, too.
I just wanted to share this with you guys.
Can we play that?
Artemis, the crew, they filmed a 1980s sitcom intro.
Apparently, tonight Trump has something in the works.
He's been making a lot of threats.
So, if you come back tomorrow, we'll talk about whatever it is that happens later.
We have no idea what could happen.
Trump is so unpredictable.
He's like that crazy man on the corner with the knife.
And the thing is, you got to stay away from that guy.
And when you're America and you're the crazy guy on the corner with the knife, people kind of stay away from you.
So, we'll see what happens.
But I want to take you to this next story.
This is with Mayor Mamdani in New York City.
He's released the preliminary citywide racial equity plan and true cost of living measure.
Now, Mamdani is a socialist.
He has said that outright.
He has a lot of socialist progressive staffers on his team who are heading up all kinds of agencies and racial equity and DEI things and all things like that.
Meanwhile, the city's budget is tanking.
We've got real problems keeping everything covered, but Mamdani doesn't care because it's all about racial equity.
So, this is this plan that was released.
This started in 2022.
The city of New York decided to start their racial equity plan.
They were inspired by George Floyd, and now they've released this thing and their new plan.
Open for public comment.
So if you live in New York City, go ahead and comment on what you think.
The plan is to prioritize lots of services for black and brown residents of New York City and black and brown so called communities, so called black and brown communities in New York City, so that they can write the racism of the past.
Now, the thing is, when the city, when they were talking yesterday about the racism of the past, they were digging back into the 1950s and 60s and alleging that highways had.
Had been done through the Bronx for racist purposes.
That's something that has been debunked over the years.
It wasn't really racism, it was highways.
So that's not always the case.
And digging back, what is it, 75 years and trying to correct things from 75 years ago, most of those people are not around anymore.
But let's tune in to what his chief officer, chief equity officer, Afua Ata Mensah, said.
It is a pleasure to be here with you today as we mark an important milestone for our city.
I want to thank so many of our fellow commissioners for being here today.
This plan was born during a defining moment in our city's history when New Yorkers were in the streets in the midst of a global pandemic, calling for justice, demanding accountability, and bearing witness to brutality unfolding on our streets and on our screens.
In that moment, our city was asked to reckon with the deep systemic inequities that have long shaped life here and to do better.
New Yorkers across all five boroughs answered that call.
Their voices, their advocacy, and their persistence are what brought us to this moment.
The release of the preliminary citywide racial equity plan is a reflection of that collective mandate.
It is not just a document, it is a commitment.
A commitment to confront institutional and systemic racism within our city and to begin the work of dismantling it.
This effort represents collaboration across New York City government.
45 agencies and more than 200 public servants came together with a shared purpose to build a more equitable, inclusive, and just city.
That type of coordination only happens when there is a clear understanding that this work is both urgent and necessary.
The Office of Equity and Racial Justice is helping to lead this effort.
And as a commissioner, I want to be clear that this is just the first step, a step we took in spite of tensions around doing so.
Our responsibility now is to move from planning to action and to do so with intention, transparency, and accountability.
Because plans alone do not create change, action does.
This plan lays out a roadmap to address inequities through both targeted programs and deeper structural reforms.
It challenges us to examine how systems operate.
How decisions are made and how resources are distributed, and to change what is not working.
But this work cannot happen in isolation.
Community input must remain central to how we move forward.
The voices of those most impacted by inequity must continue to guide us, shape our approach, and hold us accountable.
So, yeah, so that is childcare, that is housing, that is, you know, transit.
There are 45 city agencies of New York City, all of which are now focused on finding racism and finding ways that they can fix it.
So, if you put on a pair of glasses and they are colored with racism, you're going to see racism everywhere, even where it doesn't actually exist.
And that is going to be the focus of the Momdani administration here.
That has been the focus for a while.
That is what New York City voted for stupidly.
And now they are going to reap those rewards.
The thing is, as you look at New York City, you have to also understand that different people make different choices.
And inequity is not the result of racism, it is the result at this point of different choices that are made.
You have new immigrants who come into the city and make specific choices and build on that.
You have people who come in from outside of the city, trans, you know, transplants from other places who have means and build on that.
And so, what you're looking at is the culmination of choices made by people who live in New York, and that results in specific outcomes.
Just because you see disparate outcomes between racial groups does not mean that it's inequality, racism, prejudice, bias, or whatever else that got you there.
And so, I think this is going to be a big mistake for the city.
This also is coupled with Mom Dhani's plans to raise taxes, whether it's property taxes, which are already at 19 something percent, he wants to raise them another 10 percent.
Or whether it's demanding more money from Albany to fund all of these crazy programs, you're going to have rich people leaving.
You already see companies leaving.
You already see Chase Manhattan's Jamie Dimon saying, Fortune 500 companies are leaving for Texas.
So, as you hollow out the city of New York while trying to provide all of these services, you're going to leave a void there that cannot be filled by money that you don't have.
So, that's really, this should not be something that happens to the greatest city.
And while today's true cost of living measure confirms that the affordability crisis touches every corner of our city, we know that these effects are not applied evenly.
So often it is black and brown New Yorkers who are hit the hardest.
This preliminary racial equity plan is the first step in developing a whole of government approach to tackling that reality.
It is a plan that lays out These first steps to solve decades of neglect and discrimination.
And it places the work of 45 city agencies within a singular framework.
And while today's true cost of living measure confirms that the affordability crisis touches every corner of our city, we know that these effects are not applied evenly.
So often, it is black and brown New Yorkers who are hit the hardest.
This preliminary racial equity plan is the first step in developing a whole of government approach.
However, she said, sounds fishy slash illegal, will review.
So, we're also tracking Harmeet Dillon.
She perhaps could be the next attorney general.
She's a big favorite from me and lots of people that I've been talking to.
But yeah, I'm glad that Harmeet Dillon is looking into this because if there's one thing that woman cannot stand, it's discrimination against anybody.
She's a terrific civil rights attorney, and I'm glad to see her taking that up.
Speaking of changes to cities, this was a massive fail in Boston.
Boston deployed, this is from the post millennials, Tommy Stevenson, who covered this for us.
Boston deploys a mental health clinician to deal with a sword wielding violent criminal.
The worker was injured.
I am shocked to discover that.
And the suspect was shot dead by police.
So this was near Northeastern University.
There was a situation in an apartment building.
A mental health professional was called to the scene who was talking to this man who was barricaded behind his apartment door.
And at a certain point, the man busted open the door and started fighting.
The worker was injured.
The police shot him with a taser and then opened fire.
He had a sword.
And mental health professionals do not belong in violent domestic altercations.
I don't know why that's so hard for lawmakers to understand, but Boston, New York, I think Chicago, some other places have undertaken this idea that mental health professionals should be the ones going out into the field.
To deal with these violent criminals in their homes.
That's absolutely an insane idea.
Social workers get injured.
This has happened in Seattle as well.
And he immediately opened the door and struck the clinician and an officer who was outside the door.
These are so called reforms, but they are actually really harmful measures that diminish public safety and also put people in danger and also mean that the police have to deal with now not only fighting crime and trying to get a situation under control, but trying to make sure.
That this mental health professional is not getting hurt or in harm's way.
Because the one thing that I think would probably happen as soon as some social worker is injured by a sword wielding maniac, they could very easily sue the city.
Hey, why did you put me, just a simple mental health professional, out there in the field to deal with violent criminals?
Not a super smart plan, Boston.
This is something also a new story for you guys.
We were working on this last night at the post millennial.
I was working on this with Hannah Nightingale, who wrote it up.
California Democrats are weighing 26 million in a fund for child sex changes after Trump banned the practice.
So this is something that is actually pretty wild.
If you look at this photograph, what you have here is someone called J.M. Jaffe, who is very obviously a female person who has undergone sex change.
Stuff and operates a health clinic in San Francisco.
And you also have Dr. Joanna Olson Kennedy, who used to run the LA Children's Hospital Gender Clinic.
So, Joanna Olson Kennedy has now her own private practice because that was shut down in LA after the Trump administration said, no more child sex changes.
We're not going to be mutilating children with this far fetched experimental medicine.
And also, Jaffe is interested in having more funding.
So, they are saying to California's legislature, hey, all these things are supposed to be free and accessible in California, and it's your responsibility to provide them, even though the federal government is no longer providing them.
They can no longer get funding from grants that are backed by the federal government because the federal government won't fund it.
So they're leaning into California and perhaps a California's billionaire tax to get these things funded.
It was pretty interesting to watch it.
I'm just going to pick the clip.
Because I have one of these clips.
I don't remember which one is which.
Ah, this one.
This one.
Can we play this one?
This is Joanna Olson Kennedy talking about how many kids.
At the time of the shuttering, we had just under 3,000 youth receiving services.
When we learned the program was being terminated, the shock and disbelief was unimaginable.
As the medical director, I had not been involved in the decision making, nor were any of our clinicians.
Patients were informed four days after our team was informed through a text message, followed by a certified letter.
The ripple effect was profound.
Within three weeks, our team was scrambling to see as many patients as possible, with the visits massively prolonged to hold the devastation being felt by patients and parents.
A place where transgender young people and their families felt safe, seen, and well cared for was abandoning them because of the threat of losing federal funding for the rest of the hospital.
At the time of the show, yeah, so if you look at that, She's saying how terrible this is that 3,000 patients, young people, minors who came in with their parents for medical sex change services were no longer able to be served after the Trump executive order.
So I think President Trump and his administration deserve a round of applause on that one for saving 3,000 kids from this horrible, barbaric practice.
And Dr. Joanna Olson Kennedy, who is one of the premier doctors in the trans community, Medicine space said that this is absolutely abominable.
Now, Olson Kennedy is also a woman who said when she was asked about minors, minor girls having their breasts removed, double mastectomies for minor girls on their healthy breasts.
She said, well, if they just want breasts later in life, they can get new ones.
So that's crazy because there's also plenty of controversy around breast implants and the negative health impacts of putting a bunch of silicone into your body.
Go figure.
Who would have thought that that would be perhaps a crazy thing?
We have another one.
This is, yeah, this is one where she openly admits, and we can play this.
She openly admits what the real point of giving kids puberty blockers and cross sex hormones is.
The goal of medical treatment is to change the ratio of these hormones in order to induce the development of secondary sex characteristics that are truly aligned with one's gender identity.
In other words, testosterone for the development of a more masculine voice, facial hair, and body shape.
An estrogen for the development of breasts, softer skin, and a rounder figure that typically accompany female puberty.
The point of these drugs, they tell you it's life saving, but what they really mean is once you're an adult, you will be more able to pass as the opposite sex.
Blockers in the lay community was introduced into the world of medicine by a team of providers in the Netherlands.
It was so clear that experiencing the irreversible aspects of puberty was one of the most distressing experiences for transgender individuals to undergo, particularly transgender women who cannot go back and ungrow their Adam's apple, their vocal cords, their tall stature, their facial hair, etc.
We know from plenty of studies that the cure for trans youth is actually to grow up, to experience puberty, to become adults in their natal sex, which is really the only option out there other than, you know, sort of deforming yourself.
And this is the exact cure that Dr. Joanna Olson Kennedy wants to prevent from happening.
She wants you to be a lifelong medical patient.
And this is one of the preeminent doctors in the United States who is pushing for this.
And California is going to be.
The battleground for this.
We have one from JM Jaffe, and I watched this whole hearing, so you guys don't have to.
And yeah, this is where Jaffe is demanding that California pay for this.
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Adam's actively increasing access to minors for our care because we saw the hospital system start shutting down.
And so we just, you know, because we have the expertise, decided to open our doors to minors.
And that has resulted in a lot of unexpected expenses, as you can imagine.
And unfortunately, you know, because we're also seeing cuts on the city level because of all the trickle down cuts that are happening, this cost shifting from the federal government to the state, to the state to the city, to the city to the CBOs, to the CBOs, to the patients is really what we're seeing happening, right?
Our community based organizations are footing the bill, our patients are footing the bill when this is supposed to be covered care in California.
One thing, just as an example, you know, we just one thing that's interesting about Jaffe is that Jaffe is a person who basically sued Kaiser to make sure that she could, well, they, them, she goes by they, them, make sure that they, them could get covered medical sex changes from Kaiser.
And that opened the door across the country.
So this is a person who is responsible in large part for.
Insurance companies across the country covering sex changes for both adults and children.
A federal judge writes Andy has rejected a desperate attempt by former Wisconsin state judge to overturn her federal felony conviction after she helped an illegal migrant.
Escape through her courtroom back door.
U.S. District Judge Lynn Aldman on April 6th denied the motion from Duggan, seeking an acquittal or a new trial after a federal jury found her guilty in December of obstructing a federal proceeding.
He rejected arguments that the jury was improperly instructed or that the obstruction statute was applied too broadly.
Duggan is disgraced, former Milwaukee County judge.
She was indicted following the events of April 18th, 2025, when federal officials tried to arrest an illegal migrant suspect.
At the courthouse.
Now, this was a guy who was being charged for a domestic violence situation, and he was in the courtroom when he was essentially escorted out by Dugan.
Agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other federal agencies arrived at the Milwaukee County Courthouse to arrest the violent suspect.
He's a Mexican national, Eduardo Flores Ruiz.
He had an administrative immigration warrant and a prior removal order.
At the trial, it was revealed that Dugan had learned of the agent's presence and then confronted them in the public hallway, creating a diversion for him to escape with his attorney.
Dugan directed Flores Ruiz and his attorney to exit through a restricted access door reserved for jurors.
Flores Ruiz ran but was apprehended outside the courthouse after a foot chase because an agent saw what was going on and was able to track him down.
But yeah, Dugan doesn't want to be responsible for her actions on this.
And we know that she thought she was doing the morally correct thing by letting a defendant escape, not just from her courtroom where he was being tried on these charges, but also from immigration and customs enforcement.
It's hard to look at the American judiciary and not just see a bunch of activists at this point.
I think we have a guest coming up.
We're stalled.
The guest is having a mic issue.
Well, she's great.
She's worth waiting for.
So, while we're waiting for that, I'm going to give you an update on the Kanye West situation.
Kanye West, yesterday we were talking about how Pepsi and drinks giant Diageo had pulled out of the wireless festival in the UK.
Today it turned, and Starmer, Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, and also London Mayor Sadiq Khan were very upset about Kanye West.
And his anti Semitism because they've never seen anything like it, regardless of the masses of anti Semitic protests that they have allowed to take place all over the country and in London.
But anyway, now it turns out the Home Office has banned Kanye West from traveling to the United Kingdom.
They just said absolutely not.
He applied for a visa so that he could go over there, and they said no.
And then the Wireless Festival canceled their whole festival and they put out a statement saying that refunds would be issued.
He was going to be headlining the festival.
This photograph that you're looking at is from his.
So, the Home Office told the BBC that they denied his application because they believe that his presence would not be conducive to the public good.
And that's, yeah, that's pretty wild.
West had offered to meet with members of the Jewish community in the United States, saying he would be grateful to do so as he had been following the conversation around wireless, which, of course, is now canceled.
I know words aren't enough, Kanye said.
I'll have to show change through my actions.
If you're open, I'm here.
He had recently released a song, what was it, last year called Hail Hitler?
Very controversial.
Everyone was super mad about it.
Totally get it.
And he'd made other anti Semitic remarks.
The Board of Deputies of British Jews, however, they said they would be willing to meet with him, but that would be hard to do since Kanye West has now been prevented from traveling to the UK.
The Jewish community will want to see a genuine remorse and change before.
For believing that the appropriate place to test this sincerity is on the main stage of the wireless festival, said the Board of Deputies of British Jews.
Wireless promoter Melvin Ben, who has since canceled the festival, indicated ahead of the band that he suspected it was coming and said that while West Pass commentary was both abhorrent and disgusting, it may have been a mental health issue and not profoundly held beliefs.
People suffer psychotic behavior, suffer bipolar behavior for many, many years, and I think people are forgetting that.
Anyways, it's the island right next to the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Island.
And so we've reserved the whole island and we are going to have a Black Tie Gala, a celebration like never before, celebrating America, celebrating the American dream.
We're going to shoot fireworks off over the Statue of Liberty at the end of the night.
Well, I know that Moms for Liberty has been in action for a while.
And after Trump took office, you could start, you know, people could start to think maybe we don't need all of these initiatives and education anymore.
But I think that's been proven to not be the case at all.
I think Moms for Liberty is still a very essential organization.
And we've had so many recent things in the news just showing exactly why.
There was a recent case in Fairfax, Virginia, where it turned out That a young man who was an illegal immigrant was enrolled at a Fairfax County public high school and was then is now under investigation or he's been charged with groping like 12 girls, I think.
Fairfax County and Fairfax County Public Schools is a cesspool.
So many stories have come out between that whole area around DC, Loudoun County, Fairfax County.
Those school systems are a disaster, at least ideologically, and what's been going on, you know, as far as I know of since 2020, probably before then.
And so this, I'm not going to call him a gentleman.
I'm not going to call him a kid.
He is in a high school.
He is a student, but he is 18, almost 19 years old.
He is illegally here.
He is abusing young women.
That are young women, that are students, that are underage, that are minors in school.
And if you've been following the story, it's ridiculous.
I think he was arrested, and then the judges are fighting on bail, let him out.
I think right now he's out.
And so it's the takeaway from that whole story for me elections have consequences, and not just the governor's race there in Virginia, but all the way down to every single school board race.
It matters who's on your school board.
They set the policy and they allow things like this to happen.
Yeah, isn't it interesting how there's always such a huge push to turn out for the presidential election, which is, you know, every four years coming up in 2028.
But we often forget about the small local elections.
You don't even really know they're happening.
And then you'll sort of drive by.
This happens to me.
You know, you'll be driving home from wherever and you're like, oh, wait, was there an election?
I see some signs outside the school.
I didn't even know anybody was running.
You can also end up with a situation where you go in to vote and you don't know anything about these candidates.
I mean, the local school board election is not something that gets a lot of campaign funding.
So it's hard to even know who's running.
So there was an episode years ago of Will and Grace going back to the 20th century where Will and Grace were on the Upper West Side of New York City and they were both campaigning for some candidate.
She was campaigning for a Jewish woman candidate.
She was a Jewish woman.
He was campaigning for, you know, a gay candidate being a gay man in New York City.
They both ended up finding out something unpleasant about their candidates, coming back home only to have their friend come over and say, Why didn't you just vote for the black guy?
And so they've all run out to vote for the black guy.
And it would be great if there was something in communities where you'd like always get a flyer or you'd get a text message or something.
Hey, elections are coming up.
These are the people who are running.
Here's links to all their websites so you know anything about them.
So if I could speak to that for a minute, you know, that's one of the reasons Moms for Liberty was created.
I lost.
By school board reelection campaign in 2020 because a number of reasons, but ultimately the state Democrat Party and the state teachers union targeted two races statewide on school boards that they really wanted to take out, and mine was one of them.
And so they had this whole thing, they had a lot of people like coming into my county to knock doors for my opponent and do other things.
But most, and if you weren't targeted by them, you didn't even know there was an election going on because it's in August, it's not in November, it's not when all the other elections are.
And so it's he who has the most money and cares about school boards the most that's going to win school boards elections.
And so Moms for Liberty was launched for that exact reason.
And it's what we do.
For example, Libby, did you know today, right now, all school board elections in the state of Wisconsin are happening right now?
And we will know tonight who is on school boards across the state of Wisconsin.
We have 32 endorsed races there, which we're really excited about.
We're all involved in.
We've been sending the texts and the mailers and doing all the things to educate the voters.
But I think there are 147 counties alone in the state or something of that nature.
There's so many more than the 32 that we're endorsing that need to be done, but you have to have a lot of funds.
And the people that have had a monopoly on that for decades are the teachers' unions.
They are the ones that get the messaging, they spread it through their networks that they already have.
And that is why they control the majority of the school districts across the country.
The school board elections are something that, as a parent, what ends up happening is you're very engaged, you're paying a lot of attention, and then your kids finish high school and you move on to the next thing.
You know, you just start hoping for grandbabies eventually.
That's, you know, that's sort of what happens.
You were also mentioning AI and education, which is something that I'm very concerned with.
As a parent of a high schooler, what is that?
We've seen some indications from the White House.
We've seen humanoid robots being trotted out alongside the first lady.
We've also seen Chromebooks, which came into schools really in earnest during COVID.
And now we've seen some school districts walking that back, saying perhaps we should have books and paper and pencils instead.
What is the Moms for Liberty view on AI and education and how that's being used?
Yeah, so last year we had the, I signed a pledge on behalf of Mom's Liberty with the White House to say we were going to support their overall initiative to make sure that we are beating other countries in the world when it comes to our children learning about AI.
But they allowed me to add an addendum to that when we signed on to that.
And that was that we would help educate parents and give them tools, but that we would also work on making sure policies were in place to protect children, to protect their data.
And that's the area that Momster Liberty is focusing on intently.
And we launched a whole AI and education toolkit in February.
And you can go to m4lacademy.org to find that.
There are so many tools and resources on there.
And included in there are model policies for your school board, proclamation for your school board, model policy for your state.
And it has things like parents have to opt in to AI in the classroom, and students' data will be protected, and that parents will be in the driver's seat and they will have the keys to all of those AI toolboxes.
I was invited to the White House last December to speak to the AI and Education Task Force with members of the administration sitting there.
And, you know, I won't bore you with the whole entire speech, but basically I said AI is like a drug when it comes to our kids.
And it can be used to help heal the education crisis we're having in this country.
You probably know only a third of kids can read.
Like we have the lowest math and reading scores in decades.
Or it can be used to destroy our children.
And we are in the place right now.
We are at the moment where we need to set the boundaries, the parameters, the guardrails right now before it.
I mean, the one thing that I've seen in terms of AI in the classroom is kids can use it to cheat.
They can use it to write essays.
There was a situation recently where I saw a teacher was saying, you know what, actually, you're all going to handwrite your essays so that we're going to avoid the AI cheating situation.
How can AI come after our kids?
Is it kind of like with Meta and Instagram?
We recently saw that case both in New Mexico and then in California about how Meta and What is it? YouTube are being held civilly liable for a young girl's so called addiction to social media.
How do those things, what is AI, how does AI come after our kids?
And does it relate to the other piece, the social media piece?
And so I have children that are 18, just turned 18, 24.
You know, when they were little, we didn't know a thing about smartphones.
I don't know how old the 24 year old was.
Maybe he was, you know, eight or 10 when smartphones came out.
We didn't know anything about iPads.
We didn't know anything about algorithms, social media, nothing back then.
Like it was just up and coming.
And so, you know, I handed my kids a phone every now and then and, you know, play on this.
Quiet, watch this iPad.
And you just didn't know the impacts.
You absolutely didn't know that there were people over at Meta sitting around planning algorithms that they knew were going to make your child addicted to these things.
And so AI is 10 times more dangerous for a lot of reasons, but because there's no, as of right now, there's no ethical boundaries around what it can do.
And so I think I'll give you an example.
There was a dad in Ohio recently that reached out.
His daughter is 10 years old or was 10 years old.
And On her Chromebook, she created an AI companion, her Chromebook, school property during school hours.
And her AI companion started sexualizing her, having sexual conversations.
And the more she inputted that, the more it was sexualizing her.
It took him six months before he found it, screenshotted it, realized there was a problem.
And, you know, it's too late.
His 10 year old is now has all of these things that come along with being sexualized when you're 10 years old.
And so that's just one little sample.
I mean, you were talking about cheating and that's like a real bad day.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm just trying to think right now if I want to say the name of the website.
I don't want to drive people to the, no, yeah.
But it's, you know, it's an AI companion website.
I had never heard of it till he told me about it and I went and looked.
At it and pulled it up on my screen, and you can just either there's companions to choose from, and some of them are kind of benign.
A lot of them looked sexualized cartoon characters, right?
When you look at it, and then I think she had created a number of them, and yeah, so it affirms everything you say and it starts pushing the edge of what you're saying and coming back.
And so, we've seen the cases just the one you mentioned, some of the parents that were talking about just with meta and just with the algorithms of that, what it was doing to help kids commit suicide and harm themselves and other things, and so.
AI, there's nobody behind AI.
It is the computer, like just taking on a form of itself, answering questions from what's being inputted.
And it's extremely dangerous if it doesn't have any boundaries.
Yeah, there was a case, I think, in Florida where parents are suing because their son had been urged to suicide by AI.
He was talking to it about, you know, what if I could be with you today?
And it was clearly like suicidal thoughts.
And the AI pushed him towards that.
There was another case, I think, in California that was similar.
And one in the Florida case, I think.
The AI actually instructed him how to do a beautiful suicide, which is absolutely mind blowing.
There's nothing beautiful about suicide.
But there was also a case in Long Island where I think a young boy was urged to step in front of some railroad trucks.
And we've seen this happen a bunch of times.
And I can't help but think that we wouldn't necessarily be in this exact same position if it weren't that we had isolated our kids so much during COVID, prevented them from going to school, prevented them from having activities, and forced them onto these Chromebooks and other electronic devices, where it suddenly was very hard to say to your kids, no screen time.
When they needed screen time six hours a day, they had to be plunked down just to graduate the fourth grade.
What is it that is happening in education?
Is this stuff being rolled back?
I saw some reports recently that were saying there were schools in Kansas that were intentionally removing Chromebooks from the classroom, just bringing them in the same way, you know, 20th century again, we used to have the AV cart wheeled in with like the TV on it, you know, so that we could watch space shuttles explode.
But what is, I know, I keep thinking about that with the Artemis, and I'm like, no, don't think bad thoughts about the space program.
That's a bad idea.
No blowing up astronauts.
But, you know, that was a very formative experience.
Have you seen things being rolled back in some of the major school systems?
And is the teachers' union hindering or helping these kinds of efforts?
It's interesting because, you know, we are no fans in general of the teachers' unions.
We've been fighting them hardcore for five years.
I think Randy Weingarten even put the intro to her book about fascists about us, Realists for Liberty.
So there's no friendship there.
We seem to have found what's the statement?
Like, politics makes straight.
Strange bedfellows.
I would say that we have found a friend in the teachers' unions.
It seems like in this area, they don't want AI taking their jobs.
And a lot of teachers just want to teach.
I know we see the radical ones that we're concerned about, but teachers want to teach and they don't want AI taking over their jobs and other things in the classroom.
And so they're starting to see the problems.
They're starting to see that kids can't pay attention, that the Chromebooks are a distraction.
And so I think moving forward, we, Don't quote me on this, although I know you are.
I think we might find a friend in the teachers' union moving forward to get rid of these.
I've seen every time I speak out against AI in the classroom or iReady or iXL or any of these other super annoying, stupid programs that the kids have to sit on and get a certain percentage of questions right before they're allowed to move on.
Every time I speak out against these on social media, people will come back at me.
Maybe they're bots, I don't know, but people will come back at me and start saying that.
AI is actually a great tool because it can create individualized education for each student.
And all that teachers are going to have to do is walk around the classroom and make sure that students are engaging appropriately with their AI instructors.
Is that not something that teachers' unions are not into?
You know, I don't want to come across as total anti AI.
I just think it has to be caged and protected.
Younger kids have to be protected from it completely.
It, you know, it hallucinates, it lies, it is not ethical.
And so it just has to be, you know, caged.
But I do think there are some great uses and advancements with reading, helping kids maybe in very impoverished areas where they don't have access to certain things.
I do think if we use it right, I do think there are.
Possibilities that it could help heal some of the education crisis we're in.
What do you think is going to happen just in the last few minutes that we have with the cases in?
California, New Mexico.
I know that there was a large award given to this young girl who said that she was addicted to social media.
For some reason, no one ever asked why her parents provided her with access to social media when she was just six years old or what was going on there.
You know, they say, because I think Meta was saying essentially, where were the parents?
You know, like all of these things are available, but you're not giving your kids arsenic.
Why are you giving them this?
What do you think so would happen?
I know that there's like hundreds of lawsuits.
Just waiting to get through the system now that this award has happened.
I just want to back up because, you know, to put this on the parents, I absolutely believe in personal responsibility, responsibility for your children, but also there's such a thing as informed consent.
And you hear that often with, you know, vaccines and things of that nature.
But I think it comes to technology too.
Just like I said 20 years ago, I didn't know, I just had no concept.
That there was something that was going to try to control my children when I put this in front of them.
Now we know a whole lot more, but we still don't understand AI.
We don't know what that's doing.
Most American parents have no idea what that's going to do to their children and what can happen there.
And so, one of the other things I asked for when I was speaking to the White House and policy parameters is that there should be some testing.
Those that are like selling these programs to our kids or advertisers, or especially if it's in schools and in school districts, they should have to test their product and prove its effectiveness.
And prove it's not dangerous to the age range that they are marketing.
I hate big government, but I think there's a role here for government to harness some of that and to put structure around it because, yes, parents need to make wise decisions, but parents need the information.
And to expect an average parent to understand how an algorithm works that's going to seduce their child or addict their child, it needs to be presented to us in a way that we can understand it in plain English.
I didn't know about Moms for Liberty until one of my son's teachers years ago came to me after school and just said, Hey, you should know about Moms for Liberty.
But she didn't feel comfortable saying it out loud because she was distributing pamphlets on behalf of the Teachers Union, which was very far left, still is in New York City.
So, just with the last few minutes that we have, I would love to tell you guys about my latest podcast episode with.
The Pod Millennial that drops today.
It's already out on Apple Podcasts and YouTube and Rumble and wherever else the team puts it.
I don't know.
I record it and then I talk to you about it.
But today's episode is really terrific.
It features an interview with Amy Achakawa, who works with Woman to Woman.
Amy is a formerly incarcerated woman and she has done everything she can to prevent men from doing time in women's prisons.
It's not just a weird exploitation movie from the 70s, it's actually real life.
So, you can listen to that and some real life stories about what's going on in the Chowchilla Women's Facility in California.
It's really not great.
Men are being put into not just into the prisons, but into cells with women.
And then condoms are being distributed by the California Correctional Agency.
So, why do you think they're doing that?
Why ever would a bunch of women in prison need condoms?
It's a super good question.
We get into it with Amy Ichikawa.
I also speak to Brooke Slessor.
Who was playing volleyball with San Jose State University?
She had transferred into that program to play volleyball with them.
And what was really fascinating in that conversation, she famously has spoken out against there being a trans player on the women's team.
But when she transferred into that program, she spoke to her coach and said, Hey, I'd love to room with some of the other girls on the team just so that I can get to know everybody.
And he put her into a roommate situation with this fella.
Who was playing volleyball but actually is a man?
And she was, coaches attempted to silence her.
One coach was fired for speaking up for the girls.
So that was a fascinating conversation as well.
And she has a lawsuit going on.
So you can find out all about that as well if you go to thepodmillennial.com featuring me and Amy and Brooke.