Colbert CAUGHT LYING, Scandal ERUPTS Over Scheme To Cheat Election
Tate Brown and Ann Coulter expose Stephen Colbert’s election interference claims as a desperate stunt, mocking his support for Texas Senate candidate James Tallarico—a liberal Democrat repackaging progressive policies in Christian language—while CBS cites FCC equal time rules. Crockett called them liars, hinting at Democratic sabotage of Tallarico’s campaign. Coulter dismisses Colbert’s martyrdom, comparing him to Don Lemon’s performative activism, and argues Democrats weaponize vague faith references while ignoring core Christian values like opposition to abortion. The episode reveals media’s partisan gamesmanship, where both sides exploit religion for political gain rather than moral consistency. [Automatically generated summary]
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Is it not?
That's kind of the question of the hour.
The real question, I think this is actually an available money line on Calci that you can take right now, is will these pictures over my right shoulder fall down during the broadcast?
I think it's about a 30% chance right now.
I would head over to Caulchi and see if that betting option is up.
I'm not entirely sure, but I am your host, Tate Brown.
I'm taking you from the morning of the Rumble daily lineup into the afternoon, and I am very happy to do so.
It is my privilege and honor to do that every day for you guys.
Well, Monday through Thursday.
We have some absolutely massive stories for you guys today.
Unbelievable, unbelievable stories.
As you probably saw, Stephen Colbert is in hot water.
I know.
This guy's on the way out anyway.
He's about to be unemployed, so he's trying to really draw any attention he possibly can to himself on the way out.
So that way, when he launches his podcast, he might be able to crack 10,000 viewers.
We'll have to see.
Sorry.
As I point out on the show every single day, I still have this nagging cough.
I don't know what's going on.
I might have to get some like, I don't know, maybe a Ricola.
If anybody from Recola is watching the show, maybe you could sponsor the show.
I wouldn't take any money.
I would just take Ricola if you could just mail me some.
I think that'd be really pleasant because I don't know what's going on.
Things are getting wacky and wild over here at Timcast Studios.
But yes, as you saw, Stephen Colbert is claiming that Trump and CBS and Jasmine Crockett have all collaborated to take down the emerging candidate James Tallarico.
Supposedly, this guy is the hottest thing since sliced bread.
This guy's a piece of garbage.
I'm going to say it outright.
I usually don't like to just completely lambast people on the show.
I think a few people that watch get a little annoyed that sometimes I don't get as fired up about people as I should.
I'm very comfortable saying James Tallarico is one of the nastiest people in politics right now.
His entire brand is just built off of trying to pass off evil, satanic leftist ideology and sort of repackage it in Christian language to try and fool specifically evangelicals.
Thankfully, no actual Christian is buying it, quite frankly, because it's just ludicrous.
But he is continuing to try this routine and he's going to try and take that all the way to the Senate.
It's Texas, so it's pretty hard to imagine a Democrat winning a Senate seat in that state, but who knows?
Crazier things have happened.
I wouldn't count things out.
But Stephen Colbert is clearly very interested in James Tallarico winning this primary against Jasmine Crockett.
Obviously, if you're a Democrat and you want to win that Senate seat, the last thing you would want is Jasmine Crockett being your nominee.
Lady is a train wreck, uh, it would be a complete electoral disaster, quite frankly, for them.
So, they're pushing pretty hard to get this James Tallarico guy in there.
They're convinced that this is the guy, he's a smooth talker, he kind of has that kind of pastoral charm in their eyes.
He doesn't, but that's what they think.
So, they're really shilling pretty hard for this guy, and uh, it's blown up in their face.
The story is absolutely insane.
Um, and I'm pleased to declare on this show today that our guest for the you know latter half of the show is going to be the great Ann Coulter.
Super excited for that.
She's going to come on, and we're going to ask her about this Colbert story.
I will lead in with it, but then we'll bring her on at the half hour to talk about because I have a few other stories we could potentially get to if this Colbert fiasco doesn't dominate the entire show because it really is something.
So, first, I want to get into what happened specifically with the interview, with the Stephen Colbert situation, why he's in hot water, why everyone's calling him a liar accurately.
Um, you probably saw Tim's segment at 10 a.m.
He broke this down in very fine detail.
I would say, out of all the things Tim Poole, um, he's a very knowledgeable on a wide array of issues.
I think one of his strongest topics is how media works.
He knows it like the back of his hand, and he's independent, so he can kind of call balls and strike.
So, I'd recommend after this show, don't tune away right now, wait until after the show.
If you haven't seen it, go back, watch his 10 a.m. segment.
It was like 20 minutes, and he really breaks down the nitty-gritty on why Stephen Colbert is clearly lying here.
I'm going to go through the story, and I'm going to also harp on why James Tallarico is such a weasel, for lack of a better word.
I'll break all that down, but first, here's the article from CNBC: Stephen Colbert says, CBS blocked James Tallarico interview from air.
Here's some of the key points that CNBC wants you to know: Stephen Colbert ripped CBS for barring him from airing on his late night TV show, an interview with Texas state rep James Tallarico, a Democrat who is running for the U.S. Senate.
Colbert suggested CBS's move was the result of concern that this network would draw the ire of the SEC.
Colbert's comments are the latest escalation and tension between talk show hosts and the FCC following the brief suspension by ABC of fellow late night comedian Jimmy Kimmel's show last summer.
We also have a creature flying around in the studio.
What is going on?
Things are getting wacky and wild every there's a creature who is watching this show, and I don't know if he's a Rumble subscriber.
I think he's just a freeloader, and that really infuriates me.
So, something is going to have to be done inevitably about this small bug that is in the studio.
He's really bothering me.
And speaking of small bugs, we do have to discuss Stephen Colbert here, who is an insect of sorts.
Stephen Colbert ripped CBS for barring him from airing on his late night TV show, an interview with Texas state rep James Tallarico, a Democrat running for the U.S. Senate.
Obviously, this Senate race has quite a few names involved.
I think it's safe to say Jasmine Crockett is the frontrunner.
The polling, I'm not even going to bother bringing the polling up because it's all over the place.
It's really hard to get a read on what's actually going on.
I think the polls will sort of paint a clearer picture maybe in a month or two, but right now it's just all over the place.
Some polls have Tallarico up by like 10 points, some have Crockett up by 20.
Some have Wesley Hunt up.
It's really difficult to pin down.
I think it's safe to say that Jasmine Crockett has the activist base and James Tallarico has the establishment on board.
I think that is, there's really no doubt about that.
Here we go.
Quote, you know who's not one of my guests tonight?
That's a Texas representative James Tallarico.
Colbert told his studio audience on Monday night's broadcast of the late night show with Stephen Colbert.
Quote, he was supposed to be here, but we were told in no uncertain terms by our network's lawyers who called us directly that we could not have him on the broadcast, said Colbert, drawing booze from the crowd.
Obviously, they're booing CBS, not Colbert, because his audience are lemmings.
Then I was told in some uncertain terms that not only could I not have him on, but I could not mention me not having him on, Colbert said.
And because my network clearly doesn't want to talk about this, let's talk about this, Colbert said, two laughs and applause.
So Colbert is desperately trying to paint himself as some sort of renegade, some sort of, you know, oppressed figure that is just trying to be a truth teller and the full weight of the establishment is coming down on him, which is hilarious because I can't really think of a bigger establishment shill than Stephen Colbert.
So many examples of why this is the case.
I think the one that everyone's thinking about is the vaccine.
That was obviously his skit during the COVID pandemic.
Scam demic, as some people on Rumble would say, where he came out and he had all these showgirls dressed as like vaccination needles.
And they basically just danced around about how great the vaccine was for 20 minutes.
And it was really like the most egregious dystopian thing you've ever seen in your entire life.
So this idea that Colbert is, again, some sort of like renegade, some sort of loose cannon, and CBS just can't keep their thumb on him is just absolutely ridiculous.
But he's desperately trying to paint himself in that light because he needs to give himself some sort of edge, right?
He needs to give his audience the impression that, you know, he is just trying to tell the truth and he's being suppressed by the evil authoritarian Trump regime and his collaborators like CBS.
I don't know if you're a little new around here, you know, if you're a political wonk or not.
The Trump administration, historically, Trump himself has not had a friendly relationship with the establishment media.
So the idea that CBS and Trump are like collaborators here to, what, stifle Stephen Colbert is just like laughable, quite frankly.
It's just on the face, just a ridiculous idea.
But Stephen Colbert's on the way out.
Obviously, CBS is mothballing his show because he loses a ton of money.
It's just like if you, it's been in the red for a long time.
Media in general, this is kind of a dirty little secret, and I'll let you guys in on it.
You can't promise not to tell anybody because this is just between you and me.
This is off the record.
Media is actually a really difficult industry to make money in.
Not just conservative media, but media at large.
You know, there's a lot of talk about conservative media, how you see different media organizations go under all the time in conservative media, and that is true.
But media, by and large, is actually a very difficult industry to make money on because the overhead is crazy.
Guys like Stephen Colbert, guys like Jimmy Kimmel, guys like Jimmy Fallon, these types of figures, even your network anchors like your Sean Hannity's, your Wolf Blitzers, these types of figures, they have very large contracts.
These contracts are very large.
They're very convoluted.
There's a lot of guaranteed money.
There's MIGs, these sorts of things.
There's a lot of guarantees.
The overhead cost for media enterprises is very high.
The staff, like CBS, the late night show, I actually don't have in front of me how many people he has on staff, but it's exorbitant.
It is a very large staff.
So you're talking, let's just ballpark.
I don't know, Kellen, if you have a guess, like maybe 200 staff, I would assume, ballpark, that, you know, a show like Stephen Colbert has.
Let's just say the average median income is probably 80K on the Stephen Colbert show.
So, just do 80K times 200.
That's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money.
So, all this to say, they're losing quite a bit of money on this show.
So, they can't.
They can, Stephen Colbert.
This was in the news, you know, months ago.
So, Colbert is on the way out.
So, he has one of two options if you're Stephen Colbert while you're on the way out.
Is you take it gracefully and you acknowledge that, yes, media is changing.
I'm a dinosaur and it is what it is.
Or option two is paint yourself as a martyr to develop a brand for yourself.
So, then when you do have to go independent, you know, you can sort of swindle an audience into watching you as, again, as if you're disseminating some sort of hidden truth that the establishment doesn't want you to see, even though every single take he has is shared by virtually every executive of every Fortune 500 company.
So, he's really not saying anything particularly dangerous, certainly nothing dangerous or threatening to the liberal regime in any way, shape, or form.
I don't think the Trump administration feels particularly threatened by the late show with Stephen Colbert.
His reach is very limited.
The people that are watching his show are already died in the wool liberals anyway.
It's not like he is having massive sway over the American audience.
It's just ridiculous.
So, all this to say, Stephen Colbert is obviously trying to posture himself, position himself again as this martyr, as this victim, as this brave truth teller who's being stifled by these evil network executives and the FCC.
Utterly ridiculous.
I'll read here some more from this article.
Colbert suggests that CBS's move was the result of concern that the network would draw the ire of the FCC, because that's the top of the FCC's concerns right now: who Stephen Colbert has on his show.
Utterly ridiculous.
Colbert's comments are the latest escalation and tension between talk show hosts and the FCC following the brief suspension by ABC of fellow late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel's show last summer.
Obviously, you remember that Jimmy Kimmel was completely out of line, so that was a very fair discipline.
I think that would have been the case with any late-night host.
And so, the FCC last month issued guidance to the three broadcast networks, reminding them of the 1934 law that requires networks to provide equal opportunity for coverage for political candidates if their opponents appear on the air.
This is a very fair law.
Again, if they didn't have this law in place, that would just allow the establishment, they already do this to a degree, but this would really allow them to essentially ordain whatever candidate they would like to see win an election by giving them all the airtime and then shutting off access to the American public for any other opponent.
I mean, think back to 2016, right?
When Trump was running for office, the Jimmy Fallon show is a great example, the late night show with Jimmy Fallon, is he had Trump on, but then he had like Ted Cruz on.
I think he had Marco Rubio on at some point.
He had all these other Republican candidates.
Do you really think Jimmy Fallon wanted to talk to Ted Cruz?
Do you think anyone in the audience would have found that interesting?
No, but he wanted to have Donald Trump on because at the time, Donald Trump, and he still is, but at the time, Donald Trump still wasn't perceived as a Cheeto Hitler or whatever.
He was still kind of seen as this media spectacle.
So, Jimmy Fallon wanted to have him on the show.
And that's what it was.
That's why they brought on some of these other candidates because they wanted to ensure that the FCC didn't come down on them.
So, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Absolutely ridiculous.
This is hilarious.
CBS immediately comes out and they're like, no, we did not threaten Stephen Colbert.
And we did not tell him that he could not air any interview.
Absolutely ridiculous.
This is all a stunt.
CBS in a statement to CNBC said the late show was not prohibited, keyword not prohibited by CBS from broadcasting the interview with James Tallarico.
The show was provided legal guidance that the broadcast could trigger the FCC equal time rule for two other candidates, including Representative Jasmine Crockett, and presented options for how the equal time for other candidates could be fulfilled.
The late show decided to present the interview through its YouTube channel with on-air promotion on the broadcast rather than potentially providing the equal time options.
Tallarico on Tuesday posted a link to his interview with Stephen Colbert, which was available online.
This is all a stunt.
This is all a stunt.
Stephen Colbert was planning on doing this the entire time.
He wanted to portray this as if Tallarico, you know, and Colbert were being stifled from presenting their interview by CBS.
Again, trying to paint this idea that CBS was collaborating with the Trump administration, collaborating with the Trump FCC to oppress Stephen Colbert.
Here is the statement provided to CNBC by the Tallarico campaign.
Quote, I think Donald Trump is worried that we're about to flip Texas.
This is why the party, this is the party that ran against cancel culture.
Now they're trying to control what we watch, what we say, and what we read.
This is the most dangerous kind of cancel culture, the kind that comes from the top, a threat to our First Amendment rights is a threat to all of our First Amendment rights.
So he's using language here, obviously, that he, you know, another dirty little secret of politics, you guys probably know this one, is that these candidates don't actually have any organic thoughts.
This is not actually a statement concocted by James Tallarico.
This is a statement that was fine-tuned by a consultant.
All these campaigns have massive coffers and they pay consultants.
And so what this consultant has said to James Tallarico is, hey, you're running in a state that is a red state, Texas, very red state.
And even a lot of the Democrat voters in the state of Texas still have a bit of a conservative temperament.
I think that would be fair to say.
So what you need to do is you need to portray yourself as a brave free speech advocate.
That is the way to speak their language.
This is consultant speak.
And so that is why James Tallarico carefully uses the word cancel culture.
Because again, he thinks that the electorate in Texas is stupid enough to believe that James Tallarico, the Democrat, is the actual opposition to cancel culture.
Completely ridiculous.
Again, this is just him trying to utilize conservative language to try and fool conservatives into supporting him.
It is ridiculous.
It is very, very ridiculous.
Here is what Tallarico had to say on the Colbert show regarding this.
Again, just this statement, the way he speaks is just dripping in consultant speak.
Okay, number one, he's literally like trying to portray himself again as this like martyr.
Like he's actually, you know, the Democrats are the ones that are actually the First Amendment advocates.
And it's the evil Trump regime is trying to bring about 1984 in real life.
And they're trying to oppress me because I'm about to flip Texas.
None of the CBS had no idea what was going on.
CBS did not care.
CBS doesn't care.
They don't give a rip.
This show's on the way out anyway.
They're probably not even watching.
I don't think anyone in the CBS East Week even knows that the show is still going.
They're like, oh, that Colbert guy is still in the air?
What is going on?
This guy is a total slime ball, just completely lying about what is going on.
Corporate media executives are selling out the First Amendment to curry favor with corrupt politicians.
What are you talking about?
The entire corporate media has been like railing on Donald Trump at every turn.
What kind of loony world do we live in?
This is just completely ridiculous.
This guy is a complete slime ball.
Here's some more evidence.
This is why this guy is literally one of the worst people in politics right now.
This clip is insane.
This clip is insane.
And this is, again, this is consultant speak.
This is not even Tallarico.
This guy's not even like a real person fundamentally.
This is like a guy, literally an empty suit, you know, to use the terminology.
It's absolutely true here.
He's trying to, again, so the first clip, the first scene we saw from Tallerico is he's trying to position the Republicans as the real threat to free speech and that the Democrat Party and me, James Tallarico, is the brave free speech warrior trying to fight back against cancel culture.
You know, the Republicans are the real woke ones.
And then here is him, again, assuming that this is what he's working under the assumption of and his consultant group is he thinks that the Texas electorate are retarded.
Two issues that aren't mentioned in the Bible, two issues that Jesus never talked about.
Jesus in Matthew 25 tells us exactly how you and I and every one of our fellow believers, how we're going to be judged and how we're going to be saved.
By feeding the hungry, by healing the sick, by welcoming the stranger.
You know what he actually said the pathway to salvation is?
Is to deny yourself.
That is what the pathway to salvation is.
It is to deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Christ.
And you know what denying yourself looks like?
It means rejecting earthly gain in favor of spiritual rewards.
You know what earthly gain is?
Is killing your child because your child is in the way of a promotion.
That is what earthly gain looks like.
So, yes, Christ directly spoke about abortion because abortion is the ultimate sacrifice that you can quite literally sacrifice a baby because that baby is going to be an impediment to your career.
That is the ultimate definition of earthly gain.
That is not just out of step with Christ's words.
That is a direct revolt against Christ himself.
Is again, like I said, what is the pathway to salvation?
It is denying yourself.
What is and what planet is literally killing a human being for personal gain, a way of denying yourself?
This is utterly ridiculous.
Same thing with game.
What is he saying?
Gay marriage?
What are the two most important issues are abortion and gay marriage?
Yes, because those are like literally, those are wedge issues.
Hello?
One side is clearly, it is clearly spoken about in the Bible.
I mean, look at this.
John Root comes in.
Thank you, John, for this because he points out verse after verse after verse after verse after verse that just completely debunks everything James Tallerico is saying.
Marriage is between one man and one woman.
This isn't even like debated.
I mean, you have at this point these woke churches.
Tallerico is a part of the PC USA, which is the liberal Presbyterian church.
There's the PCA is the conservative one.
He's part of the PC USA, which is just woke off a cliff.
They don't even bother reading these verses anymore.
They will literally say, I've seen videos.
I should have pulled one up.
There were videos where they say, we're going to read this verse, but we disagree with it.
That is literally what they say.
They are very aware that the Bible is very clear on homosexuality being a sin.
And so they omit those verses or before they read them, they add a trigger warning.
Utterly, utter, utterly ridiculous.
John Root, he points out the verses here.
God invented an instituted marriage.
Man does not get to redefine.
Again, going back to the actual pathway to salvation is denying yourself and following Christ.
Again, homosexuality is a sin in the Christian tradition and the Christian faith and the Bible.
This is very obvious.
How can you deny yourself while indulging in sin?
That makes no sense, James.
That makes no sense.
That is something that a Satanist would say.
A Satanist would say, indulge in sin because God loves you so much.
If God loves you, why wouldn't he want you to be happy?
That is the words of Screwtape.
Have you read the screw tape letters by C.S. Lewis?
That is like a direct letter from your dear friend Screwtape.
Actually, God loves you so much, he would want you to indulge in this self-destructive behavior.
He would want you to indulge in this behavior that is corrosive to the soul because he loves you so much, he would make an exception for you.
Everything he said in the Bible, that was actually a lie.
He was capping the whole time because he's going to make an exception for you.
No, deny yourself.
Again, even if you're not a Christian, I think you could acknowledge that these verses are quite clear that homosexuality is a sin in the view of Christianity and the Christian religion.
It is a sin.
Full stop.
You can't deny that.
So back to James.
How, again, if it is clear with Christ's words that the way to salvation is denying yourself, how can you deny yourself, again, deny yourself pleasure while indulging in sin that results in pleasure, an earthly pleasure?
Makes zero sense.
Homosexuality is a sin, an abomination, contrary to nature, unrighteous.
Look, go read these verses.
John, he's not just putting up random verses here.
These are all true.
He's lying to you.
James Tallarico is lying to you because fundamentally he thinks you're a retard.
That is what this comes down to.
He thinks you are a dolt.
He thinks you are an idiot.
And he thinks that you will lap this up if you're a Christian.
Thankfully, Christians are not.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you to the people like John who are correcting the record here.
But I think most Christians instinctually see that and they're going, this guy is a liar.
And Colbert is propping this guy up, utterly ridiculous.
Here's Brian Steltzer.
I'll just skim through this real quick.
This was the same statement they provided to CNBC.
Late show was not prohibited by CBS to broadcast the interview.
Again, for whatever reason, I think we all know why the Colbert show and Stephen Colbert and the establishment do not want Jasmine Crockett to be the candidate for Senate in Texas because they know that is a guaranteed L, because she is a crazy person.
She is a crazy person.
Here I am.
Here I am in 2026 defending Jasmine Crockett.
Like, what is going on here?
This is how crazy things have gotten: I'm defending Jasmine Crockett's right to go on the Stephen Colbert show.
I don't want to do that.
You think I want to do that?
No, I don't want to defend this lady.
She's crazy.
She's a crazy person.
Tallerico's YouTube.
This is what he put up.
This is the title.
This is the interview Donald Trump didn't want you to see.
I guarantee you, I put every dollar I have.
Donald Trump does not care if Tallerico is on CBS or not.
I guarantee you, he does not care.
And then I won't play the clip because you can barely hear what's going on because there's like she's, I guess, speaking in a runway at an airport.
Is she giving her addresses on tarmac now at Houston Hobby?
I don't know what's going on.
This lady is a crazy person, but I will surmise what she said here.
Crockett is, I'll just use Western Lensman's copy here.
Crockett is essentially calling Tallarico and Colbert liars now, says the federal government had nothing to do with shutting the interview down and that Colbert could have had her on to resolve the issue, but didn't want to.
Jasmine looks like she's slowly coming to the realization that her own party does not want her to win the primary.
That is exactly what is going on here.
This is again, this is Colbert lying to prop up Tallarico, who is a snake, who is an evil person.
That is fundamentally what is going on here.
Colbert is lying to you and he's lying to the American people and has been exposed.
I don't know how many more times I have to say this.
So I think what we should do, walk with me here, guys.
I have a proposal.
I want to make sure everyone is okay with this.
I think we should bring on Ann Coulter to discuss this.
It's such a privilege just to be able to have a conversation with you.
So I wanted to bring you on, obviously, to talk about Stephen Colbert.
I'm sure you have some thoughts on this whole fiasco.
I guess we should start.
What is your assessment of Colbert?
Because from my perspective, it looks like Colbert is trying to position himself as a martyr because he knows that when he inevitably gets spit out after this contract expires, he's going to have to develop a narrative for himself of why you should tune into his show.
It appears he's trying to portray himself as a brave truth teller that's being stifled by the establishment.
Well, maybe, you know, obviously, you have so much experience.
You know, your resume precedes you, obviously.
Maybe you could give some inside baseball on the media side of this.
So CBS is saying, no, we did not tell him that he couldn't air the Tallarico interview.
What we told him is, hey, by the way, if you bring him on, the FCC could potentially have a problem with it if you don't also bring on Jasmine Crockett.
Is this how this works?
Is it true what he's saying, where he's like, oh, CBS, you know, came in and blew this up?
Or is it more likely that he's trying to spin up a narrative here?
I don't know.
Maybe you can break down how this all works or at least give a surface level view of what's going on here.
I mean, my guess would be, who knows what the lawyers actually said, but my guess is the lawyers told him what the law is.
That's usually what they do.
And yeah, the law is equal time.
People have already started voting.
If he had wanted to interview this guy, I don't know when they started voting, but I think it's quite recently.
So if he had interviewed this guy, say, a week ago, there would be no equal time rule.
But when an election is ongoing, if you're going to interview one side, you have to give equal time to the other side.
That's what the rule is.
I assume that's what they told him.
And yes, I think you're absolutely right.
The more you act like you're a martyr.
I mean, look at ridiculous, excuse me, ridiculous Don Lemon.
The greatest thing that ever happened in his career, nobody even knew he was still alive.
Was to, I don't know, in my opinion, he was joining with the activists.
He was not behaving as a journalist.
I mean, the idea that, whoa, he just has a nose for news, newsman, Don Lemon.
He just thought if he hung out outside this church, maybe something would happen.
No, he was in it organizing with them from the beginning, behaving indistinguishably from one of the activists.
I mean, I suppose, and I'm not really sure how to evaluate, not sure you want me to even bring this up, but the emails between Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein, for example, I'd like to assume I like Steve Bannon.
So I would like to assume that the friendly emails were just because he wanted to do the interviews.
I mean, remember that there was a movie made out of it, and I can never remember the guy's name.
I think it might be something, McGinnis.
Was McGinnis the killer or was he the author?
But anyway, there was an author of, I don't know, True Crime.
He goes and interviews a doctor who's in prison for killing his wife.
And he claimed, no, it was a bunch of like Manson family people who came in and killed my wife.
And he's very, very, very sympathetic to this guy who's sitting in jail when he's talking to him.
So he gets him to spill everything.
He ends up writing the book, unfortunately, the name of which eludes me now.
Maybe you can flash it up when this interview runs.
Well, I think the direct link between Don Lemon and James Tallarico is the obvious here, is they're trying to like retcon Christianity.
It's this weird thing because in Europe, the left has just completely abandoned Christianity.
And by and large, the right has as well, but certainly the left here, they've just realized, like, hey, if we want to accomplish our goals of libtard, like total libtard dominance, Christianity is an impediment to that because, again, verse after verse rebuffs a lot of their social policies that they propose, where Tallarico and Lemon have this interesting angle where they're like, Christianity's not going anywhere in the United States.
Obviously, Christians still make up a massive chunk of the electorate, and you've got to at least pass the sniff test with Christians to have electoral success in a lot of these states like Texas and these sorts of things.
And so what you see, Lemon, and specifically Tallarico really hammers on this, is they do this thing where they try to paint Jesus as some sort of like hippie who all he is concerned with is your pleasure.
That is like his number one priority is that you're having a pleasurable experience as a human being.
And so Tallarico goes on Colbert's show the other day and he goes, well, you know, Jesus, the religious right has been lying about, you know, Christ and they are just obsessed with abortion and gay marriage when in actuality, like Christ really just wants you to be happy.
And if that child in your womb is going to potentially cost you a promotion, you should just kill it.
That's what Jesus would have wanted.
What is going on here with these libtards?
Like, why are they even paying lip service to Christianity?
Shouldn't they just be trying to destroy it?
Because obviously it just rebuffs them at every turn.
Jesse Jackson, who pioneered that strategy at the Democratic National Convention, saying, you know, if you're really pro-life, you'll be for after-school programs.
You'll be for welfare for working mothers.
You will be for daycare sending their idea of, you know, whatever liberal policy comes along.
You're for NGOs bringing illegals across the border.
No, no, Jesus didn't say anything about that.
And oh my gosh, the plan is not to make you happy.
I don't think this is a religion that would have toppled the Roman Empire and spread throughout the world if that had been Jesus's messages.
Be nice to people.
You just put a smiley face bumper sticker on.
Oh, you're a Christian.
No, I think the Christian is, or the Christian message is, the Son of God came to earth, got the crap beaten out of him for you, sinners who could never get to heaven without him.
You get to present his report card and not your report card.
Because of that, because of that grace, Christians, like us, are just so enormously grateful.
We want to abide by God's law.
I mean, what a gift it is.
Everything else is taken care of.
It does bring contentment, in my opinion, because you don't have to worry about, you know, where are your places in the world, your status.
Do people like me?
What are my ratings?
It's the big things taken care of.
Just go out and do your best.
That is the message.
You're absolutely right.
Gay marriage.
I know lots of gays who are married.
I wish them the best, but no, you can't say it's consistent with the Bible.
You just can't.
I don't have to bring it up all the time, though.
As long as we're on the subject, what annoys me about the gay rights movement, besides the fact that they're now just letting in, well, I guess they aren't.
I was going to say, they were for a while letting in the mentally ill-like transgenders.
I said to my gay friends, you know, how about schizophrenics?
Add-on agoraphobes.
You're going to throw the whole mentally ill in there.
But okay, you're gay, you're gay.
Everybody's always known there have been gays.
Christian heterosexuals do plenty of their own sexual sinning.
But one thing we don't do is hold parades for like go fellatio marriage.
Yeah, just handle that at the holiday inn and then get out of the way.
Like, what are we doing here?
Yeah, like the again, like it gets rebuffed at every turn.
These sorts of ideas.
And it's just, I think fundamentally, Lemon, Tallarico, they're really banking, and by extension, Jesse's action, they're really banking on the fact that they truly believe that Americans, Christians specifically, are retarded.
I think that's fundamentally what they think.
Because again, Christians, you know, John Root, he put up every verse that was rebuffing what Tallarico said.
It's super useful.
But I think most Christians, evangelicals, Catholics, you name it, look at what he said and they just instinctually know that that's wrong.
This guy's lying to me.
This guy's a snake oil salesman.
Because again, you look at like Christ, Christ's message, you know, how do I achieve salvation?
How do I achieve communion with Christ?
Well, fundamentally, it's about denying yourself.
And, you know, back to the earlier point, how is a killing a child, because again, they're like an impediment to your career, how is that a form of denying yourself?
It's utterly, utterly ridiculous.
And I just can't believe that, you know, these guys are still trying to push this sort of woke Christianity, so to speak, because that's actually pretty amazing.
They've been, the Democrats have been pushing this fake Christianity for such a long time.
I first noticed it.
I think it was around Obama's time.
They actually had wordsmiths.
I forget the guys' names, but they were working up ways that Democrats could sound like they believed in God without compromising their principles or actually saying that they did believe in God.
But I remember one of the phrases was, and you'll see this, you'll see them saying this all the time.
I always wanted to have you remind me because this has been going on forever.
I don't believe any Democrat believes in God.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe some of the The ones who are of the flock of the normal people, I'm sure there's some people, but an elected Democratic politician, I don't think there's a one of them who believes in God.
So, you know, people have always asked me to have a TV show, but I can't because I think you lose a point of your IQ for every day you have a TV show.
But the one show I said I would have is I'd invite Democrats on my program, put them on a lie detector test.
So I'd be under one too and ask them questions like, do you believe in God?
Well, and I don't even want to, you know, the Democrats, obviously, we're on the same page here as well as the audience.
I don't want to let Republicans off the hook either because as soon as a Bergerfell, you know, as soon as that decision was laid down, every Republican, virtually every Republican, just immediately like laid down their weapons.
They're like, okay, finally, finally, I don't have to like entertain the evangelical base anymore and pay lip service to like the defense of marriage.
Finally, I can just abandon this issue.
I mean, you have these like, you know, these evangelical warriors.
There's so many of them.
It's basically every senator who will, again, like portray themselves as if they're like this evangelical warrior, this deep Catholic, or this sorts of thing.
And then as soon as, for whatever reason, if they ever were to get pressed on gay marriage, they clam up and they freeze and they go, um, well, you know, I just don't think that's like up for debate right now.
Maybe that's later down the road.
It's like, what happened to this, you know, this bold chest beating over Christianity?
And they certainly will let that play into their geopolitical views, you know, not to get too controversial here.
But then as soon as it comes to, again, like tangible bread and butter issues, like, I don't know, should a man and a man be married and that should be considered a marriage?
Speaking of courage, that has always been what I would put at the pinnacle of true courage in today's America, to come out and say you are against gay marriage.
Now, in at least some of their defense, the Supreme Court's ruled, there's not really much you can do about it.
There was a lot of organizing until then.
And by the way, when people voted, and this must have gone far beyond the evangelical based, I mean, look at how the states were voting.
When it was put to a vote, gay marriage could not win.
It was losing by huge, huge, overwhelming majorities.
So on one hand, no, nothing can be done.
But on another hand, and here I'll sort of segue into one thing I am very sympathetic to the gays pushing gay marriage on us on.
And that is exactly what you're talking about.
And I don't mean to be critical.
I like Christian ministers by and large.
But, you know, they'll thunder against homosexuality, but not against premarital sex, not against adultery, because they know they're looking out at a congregation where hopefully there aren't a lot, but there are certainly young kids engaging in premarital sex.
There are probably a few adulterers in the crowd, but that they won't rail against.
And so I just sort of feel like with everything and abortion and the pill and I mean, the way Hollywood promotes, you know, first or second date, whoa, you haven't had sex for a month.
I like the selective courage is really what drives me crazy because you see this all across, I guess you would call it like the conservative movement across the right broadly, is you have these different lobbies, these different groups who have like their issue, and they will go to bat over it and they'll demand that I'm one of the most pro-life people.
I believe in a total ban on abortion, like no ands, ifs, or buts.
So I'm like, that's pretty much as radical on abortion as you can get.
But likewise, I almost despise the pro-life lobby because they will go to war with any politician that doesn't show complete allegiance, consistency with their positions.
But then they will basically undercut any other conservative policy.
Like when it comes to immigration, suddenly they get like really antsy over it and they are like, well, you know, is this Christian?
You know, maybe like this, that, and the other.
You know, a lot of these people coming here have Christian values.
Maybe these people should be permitted in.
And it's like, it's so frustrating.
Like I'm just picking him out because that's the topic we're on.
Is again, the selective courage, where it's like, they will go to war over this.
And like rightfully so.
But then as soon as it's any other issue, they do not go to bat.
And in many ways, they undercut it.
They take snips at people that are conservative across the board.
And it's just so frustrating that the selective courage.
Well, because it kind of gets at this idea where the line for the longest time for people on conservatives is like, the reason why black people aren't voting for Republicans, the reason why immigrants aren't voting for Republicans is identity politics.
Identity politics is at the crux of the issue.
And if we can somehow destroy identity politics, then, you know, black people will finally wake up and they'll, you know, they like the language, like, go get off the plantation.
They'll finally come and vote for, you know, your, you know, name Republican politician here.
And it's like identity politics is a very like natural thing for humans to engage in.
Of course, people are going to look out for their own in-group.
Of course, they're going to have an in-group preference.
That's just human nature.
And so it's just utterly ridiculous where it's like, let's just, for immigrant immigration, for example, let's just keep flooding the country with like migration.
And then maybe one day, if we hand out enough pocketbook constitutions, they'll finally realize, like, wait, I'm lobbying for my own ethnic group's interests.
I should be at lobbying for these like abstract ideas like freedom and liberty.
And it's like, how many times do we have to learn this lesson before we realize, hey, identity politics is probably not going anywhere?
Although, I have to footnote that there's one group that absolutely does not engage in identity politics, but that's important to the point you're making.
No, we will, there are all kinds of, you know, if we just do this one thing, if we were just nicer to black people, if they didn't see us as racist, if we get rid of identity politics, if we talk about abortion and gay marriage more, oh, yeah, by the way, black people, not fans of gay marriage.
No, none of this is going to work.
I promise you, my life, your life, the lives of your children, blacks will still be voting 90% for Republicans.
I love black Republicans.
I mean, they're very brave to step outside your group.
They're always, my saying is, our blacks are better than their blacks.
Any black person who would leave the Democratic Party and become a Republican, oh my gosh, they're not just rolling into it.
They've thought about it.
They tend to be very articulate and strong in their beliefs and excellent at making arguments, because they have thought about it, probably argued with their families, their neighborhoods, everything else um, but no, we're not going to get them the good news about um, white people not having identity politics.
No one will ever go to a white person who voted Democrat and say, you voted against your race.
No, white people kind of split their votes yeah, and whites are still a majority.
So if Republican candidates would, just as Trump did, just drive up the white vote, if you get, if you increase the black or Hispanic vote fantastic, that's icing on the cake, but that's not how you're going to win elections.
Like yeah, you meet a black Republican and they're.
It's almost like when you meet like an ex-scientologist, like they know the.
They know scientology better than any scientologist because they like actively rejected it.
Same with black Republicans.
They know like every detail about the Democrat party.
They know like every single infraction that a politician said it's, I love it, I love meeting them.
It's the funniest thing ever um, and they're, and they're great obviously uh, and and they're welcome in the party.
It's just there's not very many of them.
That's sort of the issue.
But to your second point yeah, and then to your second point.
That's the secret sauce.
Every Republican is petrified of like even alluding to the fact that, like hey, it's okay to be white, like that is.
They're absolutely petrified of that.
Nothing scares them more.
Where Trump, like for what it's worth in 2016, he comes out and he's like they're sending rapists, they're sending criminals, like he's like going off, and then he does better with Hispanics than any other president in history.
So it's like any Republican.
So it's like hilarious that just by again, just not being afraid that of the fact that you just are a white person well actually like, a lot of Hispanic voters kind of appreciate that.
They're like well, maybe this guy's not pandering to me.
It's actually kind of refreshing in his economic policy, not only that, his policies.
I should write a column about this um, because it needs to be highlighted.
I I, I don't care what the polls show.
If anything, legal Hispanics in this country are doing so much better economically because of the deportations.
Yeah, whose jobs are all of these um?
You know, construction workers and hospitality workers and and so on.
Whose jobs are they taking?
Yeah, they're taking jobs.
Of the legal Hispanics who came in, they're taking a lot of i'm sorry yes, black jobs.
They're taking a lot of white jobs too, but this is definitely hitting I mean, that's, you know the joke, headline of the NEW YORK Times from Joe Soberan.
Earthquake hits New York women on.
Minorities hit hardest.
It is absolutely true that look, bringing in low wage workers, low skilled workers, hurts minorities most.
And um Hispanics, they may not vote on abortion, but they don't vote if if, if they're legally voting, they don't vote on immigration either.
Deportations are helping their economic prospects.
If you go to like the Rio Grande Valley and you talk to like legal Mexican voters again, especially if they have, you know, a few generations in the country you know like white people, when you ask them about like deportations, that sort of thing, they'll be like, well, you know like uh, you know there's some sort of economic indicators that maybe, like we should, probably You be deporting people, you know, that they'll reference crime.
And they have these like really well-polished talking points on why we should support mass deportations.
And then you go to the border and ask like Mexicans there their thoughts on last deportations.
And they're like, our immigration policy should be built around cranial measurements.
If Trump just keeps it up, I think he's going to do, well, maybe not he, since he won't be running for re-election, but his successor will do just fine in three years.
Well, I guess to kind of put a bow on the initial story, is it your assessment that it seems like it's kind of obvious.
This would maybe even just be a rhetorical question, but is it your assessment that Colbert, the establishment, are so petrified of Jasmine Crockett's incompetence that that's why they're actively crowding her out of the primary?
Because I mean, I never thought in 2026 I would be defending Jasmine Crockett's right to go on the Stephen Colbert show, but that's just kind of where we are.
To me, it kind of has kind of reminds me of like how they treated Bernie in 2016.
Is again, they just, their consultant class, et cetera, have said this lady is so electorally unviable that we need to do whatever we can to keep her off of the ballot.
I wish Republicans would behave more like Democrats.
Perhaps we have after the Tea Party blowout of what year was that?
2010, I guess.
Yeah, that really hurt us.
You need viable candidates, even if even if you think they're not perfect.
In fact, even if they're horrible, I'm speaking to Republicans now, even if they're horrible rhinos, until we have massive majorities in the House and the Senate.
No voting for the hardcore Republican who could possibly lose.
No running against Republican incumbents, I'd say.
I mean, like, and because there's, it's the way the discourse is right now, it just bends towards like the worst incentive structures.
So you get these guys, I'm not going to name them, but you get some of these guys running for office right now against rhinos.
And instead of just being like, no, I'm going to be really tough on immigration.
I'm going to like really back the Trump policy.
They feel like they got to go a step further and appeal to like the Twitter timeline.
So they endorse these like insane policies.
That's why you have this situation.
I'll just say, like, you have the situation in Ohio where you just have like horrible candidates all across the board because you have like one guy who's just concerned about like what Twitter thinks about him.
And then you have like Vivek who's like effectively an anchor baby.
It's like, what is going on in Ohio?
It's just like, maybe we, yeah, maybe we need some more gatekeeping.
It's, you know, like, okay, there's encouraging signs from the executive, but man, when you look at the state of the GOP right now, it's hard to say optimistic sometimes because, oh, and JD Vance, I mean, when he runs in 28, it's going to be, I mean, the environment is going to be the most toxic thing you've ever seen in your entire life.
I also, I mean, I've given some college speeches and I've noticed some young kids are claiming they don't trust him, I guess, because he wasn't immediately on the Trump bandwagon.
You know, he's very young.
He's just gotten out of Yale.
Think of all the brainwashing he had been through.
I think given his background, he's someone who, you know, in his heart cares about working, working Americans, the working class.
I think above all, he's just amazing at framing because that's the number one thing Republicans struggle with is like, as soon as we get hit with a controversy, we just panic and like eat our own.
Where JD Vance, it was after the group chat leak on the politico hit piece.
And then he's like, I don't really care what a bunch of kids said because the AG candidate in Virginia is literally like threatening to kill Republicans.