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Oct. 30, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show

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Pentagon To Test NUKES, Russia Warns Of WW3

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tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What is up, Rumblers?
		Good afternoon.
		We are five seconds into the afternoon.
		Really, we're really on top of things over here.
		I am your host, Tate Brown, here, holding it down for Tim Pool.
		I'm here to take you into the afternoon of the Rumble morning lineup.
		Now it's the afternoon lineup.
		We're switching it up.
		It's a rainy day here.
		We're just outside our nation's capital, our newly liberated nation's capital.
		A little rainy.
		It's got the coat on.
		It's too late.
		I can't take it off now.
		It's sutured to my body.
		We have a great show for you today.
		We have a lot going on.
		Nuclear war is on the precipice.
		The news cycle's been so crazy that literally there's a potentiality of a nuclear war.
		And everyone's like, all right, yeah, that's interesting.
		All right.
		Yeah, maybe Reuters do a write-up.
unidentified		I don't know.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, so Trump's looking to start testing nukes again.
		It's been like 30 years since that last happened.
		That can't be a great sign for the geopolitical state of the world.
		But hey, Trump is Trump and he likes to negotiate from a position of strength.
		Anyway, we'll get into that.
		We also have JD Vance.
		He was at Ole Miss last night.
		A lot of people were saying Ole Miss University.
		That's a self-report.
		Everyone knows it's just Ole Miss.
		Anyway, he was at Ole Miss last night for a TPUSA event and he was debating students.
		It was really kind of, I don't think I've ever seen a vice president, politician, anyone really do that.
		So that's tremendous stuff.
		We'll get into that.
		We also have the National Guard is looking to expand the, quote, reaction forces.
		Potentially up to 20,000 service members would be activated for this.
		So it's really tremendous, tremendous stuff.
		So we're going to get into all that.
		And we will be joined at the half hour mark by Eric Teetle of the Renewal, National Renewal.
		He's American Renewal.
		He's fantastic, and he's going to give us a deep dive on the Arctic Frost probe.
		So you've probably seen that in the headlines.
		It's really a wild story.
		It is like 10 times as big as Watergate.
		I mean, it is absolute insanity.
		So we're going to get into all that.
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	With that, we also have the Culture War podcast live.
	Oh my gosh, these are so fun.
	These are a lot of fun.
	It is just a privilege to be able to hang out with you guys here.
	Really, really some cool stuff.
	Culture War podcast live from DC, Washington, D.C., at the DC Comedy Loft.
	Head on over to DC ComedyLoft.com, grab you some tickets for the event.
	They might sell out here soon.
	I mean, this is really, this is really, you know, we got a monster monster crew.
	We got Alex Stein, Emily Saves America, Myron Gaines, and we also have Brian Shapiro, who he was on the Culture War last week, and that was a really enthralling debate.
	So you can imagine what's going to happen when we chuck him on a panel with Myron Gaines.
	It's going to be a lot of fun.
	So you do not want to miss this one.
	This one is going to be spicy, I would say.
	It's on dating, dating, what's it?
	Dating in the modern age.
	My, oh my.
	So we'll get to the bottom of it.
	And who knows?
	Maybe you'll meet your honey there.
	You know, maybe you'll meet your boo.
	It's a possibility.
	I have heard stranger, crazier stories.
	So, you know, maybe you get there and everyone's learning about dating and they say, hey, I need to try some of these new RIS techniques that Myron Gaines taught me.
	And you look over across the DC Comedy Loft and you see a lovely lady standing there.
	You never know.
	So I'm not promising anything.
	Obviously, this is a disclaimer here that this is probably not going to happen, but it's a possibility.
	And so it's worth considering.
	So with that, anyway, we'll get into our first story from Reuters.
	Trump tells Pentagon to immediately resume testing U.S. nuclear weapons.
	Well, before we get into it, I will show you the truth from Donald J. Trump, the president of the United States.
	Here is what he wrote.
	The United States has more nuclear weapons than any other country.
	This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons during my first term in office.
	Because of the tremendous destructive power, I hated to do it, but I had no choice.
	Russia is second, and China is a distant, distant third.
	That is very true.
	They are a very distant third.
	But will be even within five years.
	It's true.
	They're snapping those things together.
	You know, the Chinese with their manufacturing prowess, you know, just popping these nuclear bombs together.
	Now, they're made in China, so I don't know if I trust the viability of them, but it's neither here nor there.
	Because of other countries testing nuclear programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our nuclear weapons on an equal basis.
	The process will begin immediately.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
	I love the new branding, the rebrand, Department of War.
	You know, the Cracker Barrel rebrand left a really bad taste in my mouth.
	So I was really relieved to see an excellent rebrand.
	We'll read from Reuters.
	We'll see what they had to say.
	President Donald Trump ordered a, he ordered the U.S. military on Thursday to immediately resume testing nuclear weapons after a gap of 33 years.
	Minutes before a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Trump made the surprise announcement on Truth Social while he was aboard his Marine 1 helicopter flying to meet Qi for a trade negotiating session in Busan, South Korea.
	He said he was instructing the Pentagon to test the U.S. nuclear arsenal on a, quote, equal basis, equal basis with other nuclear powers.
	And this is obviously read his quote here.
	Trump appeared to be sending a message to both Xi, who has more than doubled China's nuclear warhead arsenal over the past five years, and to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has tested two new nuclear-powered weapons over recent days.
	Russia, which tested a new nuclear-powered cruise missile on October 21st, held nuclear readiness drills on October 22nd and tested a new nuclear-powered autonomous torpedo on October 28th.
	Said it hoped Trump had been properly informed that Moscow had not tested a nuclear weapon itself.
	They're claiming, obviously, that they were testing the delivery methods rather than the actual nuclear warhead itself.
	President Trump mentioned in his statement that other countries are engaging in testing nuclear weapons.
	Until now, we didn't know that anyone was testing, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
	Putin, who commands the world's biggest arsenal of nuclear warheads, has repeatedly said that if any country tests a nuclear weapon, then Russia will do so as well.
	No nuclear power other than North Korea, most recently in 2017, has carried out explosive nuclear testing in over 25 years.
	Post-Soviet Russia has never tested the Soviet Union last tested in 1990, the U.S. in 92, and China in 96.
	China's foreign ministry called for the U.S. to abide by its commitment to a moratorium on nuclear testing and uphold the global strategic balance and stability.
	It was not immediately clear whether Trump was referring to nuclear explosive testing, which would be carried out by the National Nuclear Security Administration or flight testing of nuclear-capable missiles.
	Here, this little line here from the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Global Strategic Balance and Stability.
	This is like, this is part of the language and rhetoric that constantly is implemented to hamstring the United States' ability to conduct themselves in foreign affairs.
	I think all these countries often forget that we still are the sole superpower.
	China has not quite matched our, um, standing as far as the national or international world superpower for this arrangement of being the sole superpower.
	They called it the, uh, they called it the, um, uh, what was, uh, anyway, anyway, we are the sole superpower following the, uh, the fall of the Soviet union.
	And it has been that way since then.
	Obviously, China has emerged.
	They are clearly a world power.
	There's no question about that.
	But they are not quite on the superpower level of the United States.
	There's really no question about that.
	Although, you know, the U.S.'s standing obviously has slipped and Trump is attempting to stop the bleed.
	But this sort of language, global strategic balance and stability, these terms are often, in combination with international law and these sort of UN agendas, are always just really designed to undercut the US's standing as the global superpower.
	And, you know, last time I checked, if you're the global superpower, you kind of dictate terms.
	So this is not appreciated by China's foreign ministry trying to sort of achieve parity through some sort of invisible international law that really can't be enforced in any meaningful way.
	So with that, yeah, I mean, look, this is the current count of nuclear weapons by country.
	There's 12,331 warheads in the world.
	Russia possessing 5,400, the U.S. possessing about 52 to 5,300.
	And then way down, look, they had to do a little cut here because it would have been just the parody would have been very, very obvious.
	China is way down here at 600.
	Obviously, they've doubled this in recent years.
	And then, you know, you have the rest of the crew, the motley crew here, France, UK, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea.
	You combine all of these countries together.
	They're not even getting close to the count of the United States or Russia for that matter.
	It is worth considering.
	You see this and you see, okay, well, Russia has more warheads than us.
	A lot of them are not active warheads, right?
	This is something that kind of matters if you have a nuclear warhead.
	Is it active?
	Is it able to be used?
	And that's kind of the thing is when you have this arsenal of nuclear weapons and you're not testing them regularly, it's difficult to know which ones can actually be utilized in a war situation.
	So that's worth considering that the U.S. likely has a more robust and active nuclear warhead arsenal, although Russia possesses more in sheer numbers.
	A lot of these are Cold War era.
	Well, most of these are Cold War era, to be fair.
	But the U.S. obviously has a bit higher standards when it comes to munitions and these sorts of things.
	And yeah, so Russia and the United States are still sitting on these massive stockpiles stemming from the Cold War.
	And none of these countries really had the impetus.
	These other countries really had the impetus or reason to develop such an extensive warhead stash.
	But yeah, China, you know, China's gunning for the U.S. China and the geopolitical world is gunning for the U.S.'s throne.
	They want to emerge as a rival superpower.
	And they see nuclear weapons as the ticket for that.
	So I think this is a smart move from Trump.
	Obviously, he's going into negotiations with Xi Jinping.
	This is Trump's negotiation strategy.
	It always has been.
	He accumulates as much leverage as humanly possible before a meeting.
	And there's no holds barred.
	It's Donald Trump.
	It's out of the deal.
	There is no holds barred.
	He will do whatever it takes to gain the upper hand in negotiations.
	Obviously, with China, we're discussing trade primarily.
	And so, yeah, this is what you got to do.
	You got to, you know, you got to ruffle some feathers.
	You got to make some noise.
	And Xi, walking into that meeting, was saying, and a lot of people have speculated this about Donald Trump.
	They say, the reason Donald Trump is so effective in negotiating is because he's the only person crazy enough to press the button.
	And it's true.
	And that's a great thing.
	That means he's dynamic.
	That means he's larger than life.
	And that's why he represents the United States so well is because I think as a country, Americans collectively are kind of a crazy bunch.
	We're kind of a rowdy folk.
	It kind of stems from that frontier spirit.
	But yeah, you look through American history.
	We're dynamic.
	Anything can happen.
	We're larger than life.
	And Trump is kind of the manifestation of that in many ways.
	So yeah, we'll see how this shakes out, obviously.
	In the article, they said they'll determine nuclear testing sites later.
	But Trump said this this morning.
	He was on, I believe this is Air Force One.
	The post-millennial is the clip here.
	This was Trump when asked about nuclear weapons and China and Russia, etc.
	So we'll listen here and see what he has to say.
unidentified		Just one more on the nuclear announcement.
		Do you worry that we're entering a more risky environment when it comes to nuclear issues?
		No, I don't think so.
		I think we have it pretty well locked up.
		But we have more than anybody.
		But I see them testing.
		I say, well, if they're going to test, I guess we have to test.
		I'd like to see a denuclearization because we have so many and Russia has some Russia's second and China's third.
		And China will catch up within four or five years.
		I think de-escalation would be, they would call it denuclearization, would be a tremendous thing.
		And it's something we are actually talking to Russia about that.
		And China would be added to that if we do something.
		Thank you all.
		It was a great success.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So Trump's here saying, like, look, the goal would be denuclearization.
		That would be the obvious goal.
		And that's true.
		I mean, there's something to be said.
		This has been discussed quite a bit by more conservative intellectuals.
		There's a good argument to be made that the nuclear weapon has actually introduced the most peace and prosperity into the world because of mutually assured destruction.
		I mean, a lot of people point out that there hasn't been a major world war since World War II, the close of World War II.
		And a lot of people credit that to the American nuclear bombing of Japan.
		As they say, well, if mutually assured destruction is on the table, then countries are a little more hesitant to go at it.
		And certainly the table has been set multiple times since World War II and the post-war consensus for a world war to occur.
		And it just hasn't.
		It just hasn't.
		That's why the Cold War was a Cold War because obviously mutually assured destruction.
		I'm preaching to the choir here.
		But yeah, I mean, Trump obviously is saying denuclearization would be fantastic.
		And I agree.
		But China and Russia's sort of vision for how the world ought to be structured is obviously much different than the United States.
		And so they don't want to give up that leverage of the nuclear weapon.
		And clearly the United States does not want to as well.
		So this arrangement is just going to continue.
		But yeah, Trump's, this was encouraging rhetoric from Trump is obviously he's not really trying to flex our nuclear and nuclear weapons, but rather he's just trying to match what Russia specifically has been, the way they've been conducting affairs with their testing.
		So he's saying, okay, you guys are test.
		We're going to test.
		You know, it's whatever.
		So anyway, yeah, World War III, you know, the table is set in many ways.
		There's kind of two coalitions.
		You have the China, Russia, Iran, sort of Axis, and then you have the U.S., NATO, and friends, you know, Japan, South Korea, Australia.
		So the table would be set.
		And there's obviously quite a few flashpoints.
		Russia-Ukraine was obviously a major one.
		Israel, Iran, you know, China and Taiwan, I think, is really the one that geopolitical experts sort of keep an eye on.
		But look, Russia and Ukraine have been going at it now for, was it four years?
		And no one else has really gotten involved too heavily.
		Obviously, NATO and the U.S. have thrown their weight behind Ukraine.
		But as far as hot conflict between the two sort of factions in the globe, it's very much a cold.
		It's very much a, I don't even know if you call it really a proxy war.
		It's just throwing weight behind.
		So anyway, all this to say, the table is certainly set.
		So, you know, if Russia, China, and the U.S. all start ramping up nuclear weapons, testing production, et cetera, et cetera, not a great sign.
		It's not a great sign.
		But with that, we'll get to the next story here.
		This was from Fox News.
		Massive crowds line up in the rain at Ole Miss for Turning Point USA event with VP Vance and Erica Kirk.
		That's obviously the wife of Charlie Kirk, the late Charlie Kirk.
		Ole Miss, I do like, I appreciate in the headline here that they call it at Ole Miss instead of Ole Miss University.
		It drives me crazy when people say Ole Miss University.
		This shows they don't know ball.
		You got to know ball.
		It's just Ole Miss.
		That's all you need.
		You can call it the University of Mississippi if you want to be a nerd about it, but it's Ole Miss.
		You know, enough of this.
		And all, and this, this university has been under it.
		This is a side note.
		They were called the Run and Rebels, and it was great.
		It was a great name.
		It's so true.
		That's exactly what they are.
		They're a bunch of rebels and they're running around.
		And then like the woke mob came along and they were like, no, you can't.
		It's like, you can't do that.
		You can't talk about history whatsoever.
		And so they made them change the name.
	And I don't remember what they actually pulled the student body for a new name.
	I can't remember what specifically they picked, but it was pretty cool.
	And then they just ignored it and called them like the Black Bears or the Running Bears or something like that.
	I don't even know.
	No one.
	I don't even know if Ole Miss football players know what their team is officially called because they're just the rebs.
	They're the rebels, you know?
	It's a beautiful thing.
	So anyway, that's neither here nor there.
	Let's read from Fox News.
	Hundreds of University of Mississippi students stood in the rain.
	Bunch of nerds, University of Mississippi, Ole Miss students stood in the rain Wednesday afternoon, lining sidewalks with umbrellas and handmade signs hours before Vice President J.D. Vance and Erica Kirk arrived for a Turning Point USA campus event honoring the late conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
	The crowd, which began forming early in the morning outside the pavilion at Ole Miss, stretched across campus as students wore MAGA hats and freedom shirts in tribute to the slain turning point founder.
	Lisa Lachman, president of the TPUSA chapter at Ole Miss, told Fox News the excitement was palpable.
	We are so beyond thrilled that they chose Ole Miss.
	It is an American loving college, and we were seeing red, white, and blue.
	People lined up for hours.
	The energy has been electric, and we cannot wait to see this event happen.
	It is true.
	There's a lot of patriots at Ole Miss.
	It's a great school.
	I moved away from Memphis when I was a teenager, but I imagine if I stayed, a lot of my friends ended up going to Ole Miss.
	So I have a deep love for Ole Miss.
	I think that would have been pretty cool.
	But I wanted to play a few clips here from the event.
	This was the first one.
	So J.D. Vance, obviously, there's a lot of people really online that have some concerns with Vice President Vance.
	Obviously, he's kind of the heir apparent to Trump at this point.
	He would be a shoe in an election.
	There's no question about that.
	He's fantastic on all the issues.
	And he's really good at framing.
	I mean, after that group chat leak, I was really impressed with J.D. Vance, where instead of capitulating on anything, he just said, no, I think what Jay Jones did is actually what we should be focusing on.
	So J.D. Vance has been great.
	But, you know, there's a lot of questions about him and they're worth asking.
	And so I'm very thankful that this event happened, where J.D. Vance was able to take on a lot of these questions.
	The first one, obviously, was questions surrounding his wife, Usha Vance.
	She was raised Hindu.
	Her family immigrated from India.
	She was born and raised in the United States.
	She was raised Hindu.
	And I think Vance explains in the clip, which we'll watch, I believe she maybe was non-practicing when her and Vance met in university.
	Vance himself identified as an agnostic when they met and then later converted to Catholicism, to Christianity.
	And Usha didn't.
	So a lot of people have been asking questions about that.
	And, you know, he had a quote one time where he said he felt bad that he had to take her to church, which a lot of people didn't like, especially in Christian circles.
	But this was the first time he has really just posed a question and was able to answer it.
	So we'll watch here.
	We'll see what he has to say about his sort of family dynamic.
jd vance ▲ ● ▼		And yes, my wife did not grow up Christian.
		I think it's fair to say that she grew up in a Hindu family, but not a particularly religious family in either direction.
		In fact, when I met my wife, we were both, I would consider myself an agnostic or an atheist.
		And that's what I think she would have considered herself as well.
		You know, everybody has to come to their own arrangement here.
		The way that we've come to our arrangement is she's my best friend.
		We talk to each other about this stuff.
		So we decided to raise our kids Christian.
		Our two oldest kids who go to school, they go to a Christian school.
		Our eight-year-old did his first communion about a year ago.
		That's the way that we have come to our arrangement.
		But thank you.
		My eight-year-old was also very proud of his first communion.
		Thank you guys.
		I'll tell him that Ole Miss wishes him the best.
		But I think everybody has to have this own conversation when you're in a marriage.
		I mean, it's true for friends of mine who are in Protestant and Catholic marriages, friends of mine who are in atheists and Christian marriages.
		You just got to talk to your, the only advice I can give is you just got to talk to the person that God has put you with, and you've got to make those decisions as a family unit.
		For us, it works out.
		Now, most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church.
		As I've told her, and I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends, do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church?
		Yeah, I honestly, I do wish that because I believe in the Christian gospel, and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So I think that's a great answer, really concise.
		This is the people hit him on this, and it's like, what's he supposed to do?
		Like, divorce her?
		I mean, that's like, seriously, that's what like a lot of these, these, and I'm a devout, I'm a devout Christian, and uh, but a lot of people, sort of in the Christian wing, like really just rail him on this.
		And I'm like, what do you want me to do?
		Leave her?
		Like, like, what is this?
		Like, what do you want from this guy?
		They met prior to his conversion.
		So she married someone, she married an agnostic who converted to Christianity, and she's not there yet.
		I mean, I as well pray that she becomes a Christian.
		Obviously, you know, she would presumably be the first lady as things stand.
		But yeah, I just, I don't understand like this line of attack like this sort of disqualifies him.
		Again, there are two individuals in this marriage.
		I mean, what are you going to do?
		Again, it's like, what do you want him to do?
		Leave?
		Like, it's just kind of crazy.
		I won't play this clip.
		It's very long.
		But this was another question.
		He was talking about illegal versus legal immigration.
		And he said, quote, my honest view is that right now we have let too many immigrants into the United States of America.
		That is a fundamental reality.
		We have got to get our overall numbers way, way down.
		Very encouraging rhetoric because the framing on the right for the longest time was like, you know, I'm pro-legal immigration, just anti-illegal immigration.
		And it's true, like I'm, you know, vaguely pro-immigration.
		If you're going to immigrate, do it legally, I suppose, was what I would say.
		But even legal immigration has become a serious threat to the way of life in the United States.
		And so it's very refreshing from President, well, future President J.D. Vance, but Vice President J.D. Vance to express his concern and say, hey, also the legal immigration has kind of become a problem.
		I mean, we've seen massive churn and young people are getting boxed out of the economy, housing, et cetera, et cetera.
		Like he said, we just got to get our overall numbers way, way down.
		There's too many.
		The country is at capacity in many ways.
		So fantastic from him.
		This was a really good clip.
		I'll play this one.
		This was the question I think a lot of younger Zoomers wanted to pose to J.D. Vance was sort of his questioning the U.S. relationship with Israel.
		And a lot of, and this is how you know Vance gave a good answer because the more ardent Zionists and the more ardent anti-Zionists were both equally dissatisfied with the answer, which says that he's probably got the right framing here.
		We'll take a look here at what he had to say.
unidentified		Hello.
		I have a question about Israel and Trump's policy towards it.
		Do you think it's a conflict of interest for Miriam Adelson, an Israeli donor, to give millions of dollars to his campaign and then Trump have pro-Israeli policies?
jd vance ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you're asking, do I think the President of the United States has a conflict of interest?
		No, I do not.
		Because I know how the President of the United States makes his decisions and I see it behind the scenes.
		Now, as the President himself has said, Miriam Madelson, who, by the way, I know and I have a very good relationship with her, she is very clear about the fact.
		She doesn't hide the fact that she really loves Israel and that is part of what motivates her political giving.
		That is a reality.
		At the same time, the President of the United States is America first through and through.
		And let me give you just a couple of examples of this.
		Number one, we have heard from some pro-Israel voices, some people who really love the state of Israel, that they don't want us to have a relationship with certain Middle Eastern countries.
		Well, the president, his attitude is we need to build relationships with any country where we have shared interests, and he's going to do it if it's in the interest of the American people, and he's done exactly that.
		Number two, there were people, and I remember this criticism of the President of the United States, I just raised it in the context of a conversation that I had with Charlie.
		I remember when people said that the President of the United States was going to get us into a multi-hundred thousand troop regime change war for Israel.
		This was four months ago.
		This was six months ago.
		Now, the people who accuse the President of the United States of wanting to get us into a regime change war for Israel, I wonder if they stepped back and said, you know what?
		We were wrong about that.
		Because the President of the United States did not want to get us into a regime change war for any other country.
		He wanted to knock out a nuclear facility and get everybody back home.
		And that's exactly what he did.
		So I understand there's some frustrations out there, but I think the president of the United States, more than any president of my lifetime, is willing to stand up to anybody if he thinks it puts the interests of the American people first.
		Thank you.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So again, fantastic.
		I think this answer specifically is proof that Vance is tapped into the sort of online discourse very well, because I think a lot of politicians, even MAGA, even within MAGA, would kind of be thrown off by this question and they would sort of retreat back to maybe more conventional responses.
		But this response from Vance actually indicates that he's very well aware of the online discourse specifically surrounding our relationship with Israel.
		And what I liked, I liked that he hit on this.
		I think this is really key was he was talking about Iran, the bombing of Iran.
		And in the run-up and then with the bombing, everyone was saying, oh, this is it.
		This is going to be another Afghanistan.
		It's going to be another Iraq.
		And the message from the Trump administration continually was, trust the plan.
		Like, let us cook.
		Like, we know what we're doing.
		And yeah, a lot of people were spurging over it to put it lightly.
		And so the fact that Vance specifically hit on that really shows me that he has tapped into the online discourse.
		Obviously, people have pointed out that he's very active on Twitter.
		He's following a lot of accounts that are in many ways kind of tastemakers within the conservative online discourse.
		And this is just proof of it.
		I mean, this is just proof this answer was very specific.
		It was very targeted to a specific ear within the sort of right-wing coalition.
		And just fantastic framing, fantastic framing.
		It was very impressive.
		We'll see what else we got here.
		This was, again, these clips are just too long.
		We're kind of coming out of the wire here.
		But VP Vance gives a history lesson on freedom.
		Let's see.
		Freedom of religion and Christianity in America.
		Quote, when our founders talked about freedom of religion, they didn't mean that you weren't allowed to say a Christian prayer in a public school.
		They just meant that nobody could force you to profess the Christian faith.
		Again, just great framing.
		This is something you don't hear from Republicans, certainly not Republican politicians.
		But it's something that's discussed online and kind of flushed out.
		And it's just really fantastic to hear it from the vice president of the United States.
		And again, someone that would be a presidential, you know, a candidate, you know, increasingly, you know, increasingly, what's the word I'm looking for?
		Helpful.
		Yeah, potent, helpful.
		He would, he has a good chance of being next president of the United States as well.
		That's what I'm trying to say.
		And then I have one more that I picked out here that I thought was interesting.
		This was from Vance, quote, what is the exact number of immigrants America should accept in the future?
		Right now, the answer is far less than we've been accepting.
		We have got to become a common community again.
		And you cannot do that when you have such high numbers of immigration.
		He's attacking here a specific vector that has been assaulted really by immigration is the cultural cohesiveness of the United States.
		This is something that people don't want to talk about because they feel like it could be perceived as racist or xenophobic or something.
		But most countries, the way they conduct an immigration policy is primarily to protect the sort of culture of their country.
		And the United States, for some reason, was not allowed to do this.
		So oftentimes when people were criticizing the volume of immigrants, they would point to effects it has on the voting map, which is real and true, or effects that it has on the economy, which is real and true as well.
		But it's a valid concern to be concerned about the demographic composition of your country and how that could impact the culture.
		And so Vance was kind of hinting at it.
		He was addressing this.
		He was saying, we need to become a common community again.
		And it's very true because it's like a lot of our cities just are becoming increasingly unfamiliar.
		And so fantastic, fantastic framing from Vice President Vance.
		So with that, we are out of time for this first half of the show, but we are going to get into our interview here.
		We'll be joined.
		Let's see.
		Let me see if he's ready.
		So, all right, well, we will be joined by Eric Tietzel.
		He is the CEO of the Center for American Renewal.
		We're going to bring him in to discuss this story here.
		This is from the Washington Post.
		Pentagon readying thousands of guard reaction forces as U.S. mission widens.
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		I was just reading just to read.
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	Let's restart.
	All right, from the New York Post, Biden-era FBI may have investigated over 160 Republicans as part of, quote, Arctic Frost Probe.
	Documents show more than 160 Republicans, including current Trump admin officials, may have been investigated by the FBI under former President Joe Biden as part of the Bureau's sweeping Arctic Frost Probe documents show.
	White House Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino, U.S. Partn Attorney Ed Martin, and White House Trade Advisor Peter Navarro are among the prominent GOP figures named in FBI files released by the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, detailing the massive scope of the Biden-era Justice Department's investigation into allegations of the 2020 election interference.
	What we have learned is much broader, much more expansive than we ever thought.
	That was from Jim Jordan, the House Judiciary Committee Chairman.
	So with that, we will be joined by Eric Tietzel.
	Again, he's the CEO of the Center for American Renewal.
	We're going to bring him in to see what he has to say about all of this.
	So yeah, we'll get this fired up.
	We'll see what's going on here.
	I can do it.
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	We love that.
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	Hey, Eric, can you hear me?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Tate.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		How's it going?
unidentified		All right.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we start, could you just give a quick intro?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Who you are, what you do?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my name is Eric Tietzel, and I'm the CEO of the Center for Renewing America.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
		I love it.
		Well, so I was leading in.
		I was reading about this Arctic Frost probe.
		To me, this seems to be beyond Watergate levels of scandal.
		Obviously, Americans have been hit with a lot of crazy news over the last year.
		The news cycle has been absolutely absurd.
		So maybe the magnitude of what's going on here is lost on a few people.
		So maybe you could kind of give a quick rundown of why this is so monumental and scandalous.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		There's a saying that's been running through my mind for a few years now.
		It's the idea that every accusation is a confession.
		And the accusations that we've heard thrown at President Trump, his administration, the entire conservative movement is that we're what?
		A threat to democracy, an existential threat to this republic, right?
		And it turns out that the actual threat to democracy, the actual existential threat to our nation is coming from the side pointing fingers.
		It's coming from those who would weaponize the massive power of the White House, of the Department of Justice, and the federal court system and turn it against their political opponents for partisan advantage.
		That is exactly what we've just started to learn the details of with the release of these troves of documents from the House and Senate Judiciary Committees.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, it's just absolute insanity.
		So obviously the Biden, the Biden-era, you know, team, this all initiated with an interest in the 2020, they say, quote, election interference narrative, and they wanted to investigate this.
		How did this start?
		And then how did this transform into just basically anyone that was right of center getting a magnifying glass put on them?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		Well, it started because President Biden instructed his Department of Justice, specifically Merritt Garland, Lisa Monaco, and eventually Jack Smith, this special prosecutor, to do just what you said, to investigate this quote unquote attempt at election and interference, right?
		And anytime you launch a federal investigation, we've seen this play run numerous times.
		People understand that once you have the predicate established, anything that you find becomes fair game, even if it's not illegal, even if there's no wrongdoing, anything you find while you're ruffling through somebody's underwear drawer suddenly can be part of a disclosure.
		It can be embarrassing to individuals who are involved.
		It can reveal tactics and strategies that are not illegal, but when brought to light, undermine the work that people are doing on behalf of clients or on behalf of ideological movements.
		And so what's going on here is the use of federal power to destroy, it has to be said, to destroy the entire conservative movement.
		This dragnet that was put into place by Jack Smith with the blessing of the President of the United States and the Attorney General of the United States and with the assistance of federal judges like this Judge Boesberg, who has been in the news all throughout this administration for his attempts to use his power to stymie the Trump administration.
		By the way, the guy was a judge on the FISA court, these secretive courts that were allowed to spy and surveil on American citizens without any justification whatsoever, as we know from the Durham Report and other information.
		These people perpetrated this dragnet, and it encompassed elected officials, including congressmen and senators.
		It encompassed the heads of organizations like Ed Corrigan and Mark Meadows.
		It encompassed attorneys for the president like Jeff Clark and John Eastman, all with the goal of digging up information so that they could either find or allege supposed crimes or simply just embarrass these people for a political advantage in the midst of an election year.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I saw in some of the discussion around it, I mean, like even like Turning Point USA was being effectively peered at by the Biden team.
		I mean, how expansive was this?
		Because we're seeing numbers thrown out.
		Obviously, there's a lot of pages in the document that were released, but I don't know if people are quite aware of how expansive this operation was.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		We're still learning.
		There are hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents that have been released.
		And by the way, I have a feeling there are many more documents still to come.
		It should be noted that the House released troves of documents with the assistance of the Trump Department of Justice, but the Senate side did it because of a whistleblower.
		This is somebody from within DOJ who was willing to come forward, go to Senator Chuck Grassley, who's known to protect whistleblowers and say, what happened here is wrong and you need to know.
		So more is certainly to come.
		But to your question, they literally threw out the widest possible net you could imagine.
		I mentioned elected officials.
		Apparently, it's hundreds of subpoenas that applied to dozens and dozens of individuals, leaders of organizations, lawyers, in some cases, people who, to your point, had nothing to do with anything even tangentially related to this.
		The Center for Renewing America, for example, had not even commenced operations on January 6th, 2021.
		And yet our banking records were subpoenaed.
		I mean, there is no possible rational basis for any sort of legitimate federal judge to sign off on these kind of subpoenas.
		And yet it was done.
		And there's only one explanation for why.
		Partisanship, the political usage of government power to harm your enemies.
		And that must not be allowed to happen ever.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		That's all it you guys aren't even cooking yet and they already came after you.
		I mean, that's insane.
		That's insane.
		My question would be, I mean, I was thumbing through the documents last night and this morning.
		I didn't see any expiration dates on there.
		What do you think they would have done if the last election went, you know, a different way?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we know what they would have done because they're still doing it anyway to friends and colleagues of the movement.
		My friend and former colleague, Jeff Clark, for example, has had his career ruined, his reputation tarnished, all because he gave legal advice to the president of the United States.
		And even though he has never been indicted because he didn't break any laws, the bar associations have gone after him in non-legal means to try to bankrupt him and to ruin his professional career.
		This is what they are doing and what they will do if they are ever allowed to have power again.
		I am tremendously grateful that President Trump won reelection in 2024.
		We should all be because the limits that these people would have held themselves to when it came to the restraint of their power do not exist.
		People would have been in jail the way Steve Bannon was put in jail.
		People would have been bankrupted, lawfare.
		These organizations would have had private and privileged information about things like their donors released to the public, which would have been a massive violation of the privacy, not just of people like me who live and work in D.C. And maybe you sort of say, well, you signed up for this game, but average everyday American citizens who write a check to some organization because they see it as an extension of their values, they should have their names and reputations pulled into this.
		It's absolutely un-American.
		It can't be allowed to stand based on what has already happened.
		And people need to remember this moment for the future because they're going to do it again, if ever given the opportunity.
		There can be no doubt about that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's kind of the same sort of way of thinking following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which is, look, the response needs to be so severe that this becomes unconscious, unconscious.
		That's the word I'm looking for, unconsciousable.
		You know what I'm trying to say.
		It's a scrabble word there.
		For, you know, for the, for leftist political violence to ever, you know, occur again.
		I mean, that's the type of environment you have to create.
		So kind of similar to this, because this is scandalous at the highest level, the Judiciary Committee, what options do they have here to ensure that these types of people are prevented from ever touching the weapons that would allow them to conduct this sort of operation again?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Great question.
		Well, sunlight is the first step and the most important disinfectant.
		So we're getting going and that matters.
		I'm so grateful to you and other conservative alternative media that's covering this story because you're not going to find it in the pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times and the corporate media because these are their friends, their allies.
		In fact, they were active participants in perpetrating the same false narrative about what was happening with election interference and with the January 6th riots all throughout.
		So it's up to us to share this information and to tell this story and to make sure that people know.
		And we should do that because when average everyday Americans, people who don't necessarily pay attention to what's going on day in, day out, or who may feel overwhelmed, as you alluded to earlier, Tate, with the sheer amount of news and information that's happening, it's hard to triage and know what's really massive and important and what's just kind of a passing story.
		We have to share and give people a sense of the magnitude of this.
		But then we also, to your point, need to expect Congress to take action.
		Here's an idea that's been thrown out that I think is dead on: impeach Judge Boesberg.
		As Ted Cruz said in the press conference that the Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans had yesterday, you have to have a factual evidentiary basis to subpoena somebody on these grounds, or as he also did, to submit a letter that said, Hey,
		Verizon, not only are you supposed to give us all of this sitting U.S. Senator's cell phone information, but you can't tell him that you're doing it because we have a belief that he will destroy evidence if he knows about it.
		You can't just make those claims.
		It has to have a basis.
		Americans have rights, and privacy rights are one of them.
		And, you know, the amendments to the Constitution guarantee a protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
		That's exactly what happened here.
		This guy has been complicit in undermining the very roots of the American justice system and has no place in the federal judiciary.
		That'd be a great place to start.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, because this name, obviously, Judge Boesberg has been, you know, discussed at length by a lot of shot callers.
		He's been, whatever press is reporting on it.
		He's a centerpiece of a lot of these articles.
		Maybe you could frame specifically what his role was in this operation, because he's not a household name.
		I mean, because he's a loser primarily, but he's not like, you know, he's not a known quantity, I would say, in the mainstream of the political zeitgeist.
		So maybe you could kind of frame what his role was in this operation.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, he's not a known quantity because he's not supposed to be.
		Federal judges are not supposed to be part of the political process.
		It's a separate branch of government that should have no business playing partisan games.
		And yet he has been in the news.
		And if you ask the average American to name a federal judge anything below the Supreme Court, he might be the one name they would know because of the repeated instances in which he has popped up as part of these partisan exercises, whether it was related to his work on the Fisk court, the FISA courts, this Jack Smith nonsense, or the federal injunctions he's placed on Trump administrative actions since the president was elected this year.
		This is a guy who was put on the federal bench initially by Barack Obama in about 2011, I believe.
		And in the last few years, he was elevated to chief judge of the federal district court for Washington, D.C. So he is the top federal judge for the region encompassing Washington, D.C. He's the guy who gets to make decisions like this.
		And he is the one who signed off on the subpoenas demanding privileged private information, phone records, banking information, employment records, and more from sitting U.S. senators, from congressmen,
		and from private organizations like ours, all without the necessary factual evidentiary basis that an objective judge would require in order to take such an extreme action, which, by the way, it's hard to imagine what that justification could possibly be given the stakes here, right?
		When you're talking about the appearance of injustice and the partisanship of the judiciary system, there should be an extra high barrier because the American people have to believe, they have to believe that the justice system is fair and blind.
		And even if you did have a reason, which didn't exist, to go after political opponents in an election year, you shouldn't do it because that's not who we are as a country.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I mean, because I'm reading here, like former AG Merrick Garland, ex-assistant deputy attorney general Lisa Monaco and former FBI director Christopher Wray all signed off on the investigation.
		I mean, I'm looking at this.
		This is beyond Watergate, obviously, as far as the sheer like volume of people targeted.
		Is this prosecutable?
		I mean, surely, right?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		We'll find out.
		We'll find out exactly what happened.
		There are certainly the possibility that things were done that are unacceptable and potentially illegal.
		If you lie to a judge, that's a crime.
		And at the very least, it's grounds for disbarment.
		If you are known to have committed a criminal conspiracy, that's a crime and certainly something that could be punishable in various ways.
		For us at CRA, I know we're taking a long, hard look at this.
		And there are both criminal and civil routes that you can take in response to an action like this, all of which I think need to be on the table.
		In addition to the most important step, which you're helping us with, which is building public awareness so that we never see this happen again.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I mean, yeah, because I'm just seeing this.
		And it's funny because obviously the probe was into election interference, sort of this narrative that was spawn.
		This to me looks like election interference.
		They're trying to take out an entire apparatus of a political movement right before an election.
		I mean, like, what are we doing here?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, people need to remember Donald Trump won re-election after being indicted at the federal and state level, like dozens of times.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		His opponent for president of the United States allowed his Department of Justice to pursue federal criminal investigations during an election year.
		This is banana republic nonsense.
		If the blob at the State Department saw this happening in some far-flung place around the world, they would declare that the election was rigged and unfair.
		And yet it's happening right here underneath our noses.
		Thank God the president won anyway.
		And that's due to the wisdom of the American people, average everyday people who can sniff something that's wrong, that's illegitimate, that, you know, that they don't even care about.
		I mean, classified information being stored in the wrong room at Mar-a-Lago.
		No one cares.
		It's not a big deal.
		And oh, by the way, they also noticed when Joe Biden was doing the same thing in his garage in Delaware, and yet nothing flows from it.
		There's only one explanation for this, and it's that the partisanship runs in one direction.
		It's used to harm your political opponents, and it's wrong, but it's not going to stop them from doing it again.
		They will avail themselves of these tools if they get the opportunity.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think that could explain part of the reason that people aren't sort of grasping.
		I mean, a lot of people are a lot of political, people that are politically aware, people that are in this space, obviously.
		But, you know, still, I think for the reason for why a lot of people haven't quite grasped the magnitude is because it's not surprising.
		It's shocking for sure, but it's not surprising.
		Like no one has a hard time believing.
		Like, you know, when Watergate occurred, obviously the entire narrative was like, this is so scandalous.
		Like, how could this possibly occur?
		Like, this is just so dirty, et cetera, et cetera.
		That was the reaction to the news versus this.
		I think the entire right was like, yeah, that kind of checks out.
		That's how the Biden administration conducts things.
		I mean, they're obviously shocked at the way it was done, but there's something to be said about that.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		It's a sad indictment of where we've come as a country.
		And it explains, I think, the power and the importance of this president in this political moment.
		There's a reason why the tagline, Make America Great Again, to renew America, has caught on with people because they have the same sense you do.
		This isn't who we are.
		We should be better than this.
		And if it wasn't clear because of the abuse of power through DOJ and these scam investigations, then it's clear because they tried to assassinate the president at a political rally.
		Then it should be clear because they did assassinate our friend and hero, Charlie Kirk.
		This cannot stand.
		And we have reached the precipice where we have to make a choice as a nation.
		Are we going to do what is necessary to take the steps back, to take the country back and to ensure that political violence and the weaponization of the government against political enemies stops forever?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		I mean, absolutely.
		That's just, we have to set the tone here.
		I mean, because I think to be fair to a lot of the base, they're frustrated with Congress.
		They feel like there's a lot of inaction.
		So I think a lot of people here, sadly, are expecting the ball to be dropped.
		But this, this second term Trump-led GOP does seem to have some teeth.
		And I don't anticipate that grassly in the squad or just kind of like let this slide.
		But beyond that, I was kind of curious because you're, you know, you're obviously Center for American Renewal.
		You guys are doing excellent work.
		You're a well-connected guy.
		What was sort of the reaction from a lot of people when the list came out of who was investigated?
		What was the reaction from some of those people that were on the list?
		Because it was such a like rant, like not random, but it was such a wide net, like you said.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, the first reaction was, if you weren't on the list, what's wrong with you?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		What were you doing?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That means you made it.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		It means you made it.
		You know, when you're, when you're over the target, that's when you're catching flack, right?
		And so at the one sense, it's like, well, hey, at least they identified that, yeah, we are movers and shakers.
		We are the people who matter and are in the fight.
		And that's why they're shooting back at us.
		Of course, we're fighting in legal ways, in ways that are perfectly appropriate.
		And in fact, essential to a democratic republic running, you need to have a vibrant democratic process.
		And that's what we do for a living.
		But then, of course, it's just the absolute outrage because we love America.
		We love this system and we know it can be better.
		And it is such a deep violation of the most basic democratic and constitutional norms.
		This is not who we are.
		We've got to be better than this.
		And it has energized the movement to fight and to fight to make America great again, to fight to renew a sense of America as a nation under God with institutions and with people and with histories that are worthy of protecting, right?
		And so that's what we're going to do.
		You know, I've been in this town for a long time.
		Nobody has a lower opinion of Congress than me.
		But the truth is there are heroes there.
		There are good people working.
		Heck, there are people who have let us down that we can expect to at least come through this time.
		We will hold their feet to the fire.
		We will make sure that we continue to make progress on this front because we have to.
		It's an existential threat.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I'm glad you hit on that point of, you know, why they're, why, what would motivate sort of the Biden team to sort of conduct this sort of operation is because I think this is really important.
		And I think this also applies to the increase in political violence we're seeing from the left is you don't really start, you know, conducting affairs like this or you don't start attacking people unless you feel like you're losing.
		Like vindictive would be an accurate adjective, obviously, to apply to this.
		It's certainly the case.
		But I think fear would actually be, because they're so afraid of their entire project getting unraveled before their very eyes by how dynamic and powerful the MA sort of movement is.
		And I don't think you conduct something like this unless you're like genuinely concerned that, oh, we're going to lose power.
		We've lost the American people.
		They're not riding with us anymore.
		To me, that seems to be why they would conduct something like this.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the fear of losing power and the willingness to do whatever it takes to protect it and preserve it.
		And we have seen the weaponization of government in lots of other places and lots of other ways over the years in that exact same vein, right?
		We saw the IRS release the tax information of conservative groups way back when Lois Lerner was there under President Obama.
		We saw the FBI going after everyday moms and dads who are going to school board meetings to question the transing of their kids.
		Recently, my organization, the Center for Renewing America, has revealed the ways that the Biden administration and the federal bureaucrats who run the Census Bureau weaponized the 2020 census for political advantage that is only now coming to light.
		And we're doing a lot of work to try to undo that.
		Sadly, it turns out that you just can't trust folks to constrain themselves and to operate according to the rules that this system needs in order to operate.
		We've got to recover that.
		We've got to take it back.
		And until we do, until the American people have a deep sense that it doesn't matter what party you're a part of, you're a person who's going to respect the law and the Constitution and what it means to be an American.
		Think twice before giving power back to the progressive movement.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, man.
		Well, I don't know.
		Final kind of sort of closing thought.
		And relating to this Arctic Frost investigation, what would you say to people?
		What do they need to keep an eye on?
		What sort of things will be revealed here that people should be looking out for?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got to know exactly what information actually went to Jack Smith.
		That's one thing to know.
		For example, for my organization, we know there was a subpoena to the company that did our payroll records.
		What we don't know yet is whether they complied with that subpoena.
		So there are some open questions there that we need to know.
		We need to know who else was involved, the extent of this.
		Do we even know fully how many subpoenas went out?
		What information was given?
		How that information was then used and weaponized in the political prosecution of the president of the United States and aides like Jeff Clark, John Eastman, and others.
		There are a lot of unknown questions.
		And of course, we need to bring these people in front of Congress to testify under oath and tell us the truth about what motivated them, who told them to do what they were doing, who funded what they were doing, and more.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Well, Eric, thank you so much for taking the time to come on here and break this down.
		Where can people find you and your organization?
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Tate, thanks so much for having me.
		You can find us, Americarenewing.com.
		We're all over the socials on X, on Instagram, America Renewing Center.
		I'm on X at Eric Teetzel, and we'll be covering this really, really closely for the days, weeks, and months to come.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
		Well, thank you so much, Eric.
		Until next time.
eric teetsel ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Well, that was Eric.
		Man, that was a great, great breakdown.
		Because that's the thing with this story.
		There's so many moving parts to it.
		Obviously, all these documents that got dropped.
		It's hard to like really frame it.
		You know, it's hard to get a, get a, get your, uh, you know, your paws on it and really try to figure out what's going on here.
		This is, I mean, you know, this is Watergate level stuff.
		This is insane.
		And it's going to get lost in the fray because the media is just full-blown defense for the Biden admin.
		Absolutely ridiculous.
		I'm looking forward to seeing what more can be revealed here because, yeah, the amount of people that were investigated is absolutely ridiculous.
		And they were fully intending on interfering with the 2024 election.
		There's no question about it.
		So great, great stuff.
		We will be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.
		You do not want to miss it.
		It's going to be a great show.
		You can find me, your host, Tate Brown, on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
		Come give me a follow.
		And also go get your Culture War Live tickets.
		It's on the 8th of November.
		We got Alex Stein, Emily Saves America, Myron Gaines.
		We got Brian Shapiro.
		It's going to be a monster show.
		Head on over, grab your tickets, hang out tonight, Timcast IRL.
		It's going to be really fantastic stuff.
		So with that, thank you very much for watching and hanging out.

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