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It seems the ceasefire is holding, at least for now. | ||
And boy, is it rough. | ||
Last night, Donald Trump, of course, announced there'd be a ceasefire between Israel, Iran, and the United States would no longer be engaging in any strikes against Iran. | ||
This came only a few hours after Iran launched several missiles at Qatar towards a U.S. base. | ||
They were intercepted. | ||
One of them just kind of went nowhere. | ||
And Trump said, okay, we're done. | ||
We've got a ceasefire. | ||
However, shortly after this announcement, Trump says that Israel just unloaded bombs, the likes of which he's never seen before. | ||
And you don't do that. | ||
This led to a violation of the ceasefire on both parts, on both parties, Iran and Israel. | ||
Now, Donald Trump in the morning said, Israel do not drop those bombs, and Israel did anyway. | ||
At least on one site, Netanyahu spoke with Trump and then said, we're not going to do any more strikes, but it did hit a radar station. | ||
Needless to say, Trump is pissed and dropped one of the most iconic and historic statements on the issue, and in fact, of the presidency, which I will waste no time with these intros and just play for you now due to its importance. | ||
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Is it okay that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement? | |
Do you believe that Iran is still committed to peace? | ||
I do. | ||
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They violated it, but Israel violated it too. | |
Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. | ||
The biggest load that we've seen. | ||
I'm not happy with Israel. | ||
You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours. | ||
You don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on it. | ||
I'm not happy with them. | ||
I'm not happy with the rocket either. | ||
But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land that was shot. | ||
Perhaps by mistake that didn't land. | ||
I'm not happy about that. | ||
We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
You understand that? | ||
My president. | ||
Well, following this scene of the ceasefire's holding, Donald Trump is slamming AOC, Ilan Omar, Jasmine Crockett, as well as other Democrats who have called for his impeachment over the strike on Iran, which to break it to all these Democrats and even the anti-war libertarians and all those pissed off about it. | ||
Hey, look, I was not a fan. | ||
I am not a fan of the strikes on Iran as well. | ||
Trump does have the authority to do this under the War Powers Resolution. | ||
I believe it was around 1973. | ||
If Trump does not engage in further hostilities, then he does not need approval from Congress. | ||
And perhaps y'all can make the argument that goes too far. | ||
But it is a reality. | ||
The law exists and the president does have this authority. | ||
Thomas Massey spoke about this yesterday, saying he wanted to pass his War Powers Act, which would then say, okay, you don't need any more strikes if this is it. | ||
Democrats are largely unpopular. | ||
Everybody knows that. | ||
Their approval rating in Congress is in the gutter. | ||
They have no charismatic leaders. | ||
I don't even know what they're doing at this point, to be honest. | ||
Except polls show that the strikes on Iran were unpopular nationally. | ||
So Democrats are hoping they can use this issue against Trump. | ||
The problem is, you know what they do? | ||
They go too far with it. | ||
Impeach Trump. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Like Thomas Massey has the right approach in opposing these strikes. | ||
Impeachment's not going to earn you any friends and it doesn't work. | ||
So Trump is roasting them, but we're going to break down exactly what they're saying and where we're currently at. | ||
And ladies and gentlemen, later on in the show, we'll be joined by Dave Smith, a staunch critic of Israel, someone who is very much concerned about the strikes in Iran and the war. | ||
And I'm interested to hear what his current assessment on the issue is, considering he's very far to one side of the issue and has gotten a lot of attention for his warning about World War III and that the U.S. is taking these strikes out on behalf of Israel, things of this nature. | ||
So we'll bring him in to see what he has to say on that. | ||
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But let's get to the news. | ||
Here's a story from Mediite. | ||
Trump completely loses it on stupid AOC over call for his impeachment in wild marathon rant. | ||
Now, it's not just AOC. | ||
Al Green is now calling for Trump's impeachment. | ||
Jasmine Crockett is going viral for saying she's the one who gets to decide if we are going to war, not Trump. | ||
That's what the Constitution says. | ||
Well, to clear things up, I actually pulled up not just Wikipedia, because we all trust Wikipedia, but the BBC, a British newspaper, so they can explain to us. | ||
And as it turns out, both the liberal sourcing of Wikipedia and the UK, a foreign government, recognize that according to U.S. law, Trump can engage in these military actions. | ||
However, he would then require approval from Congress. | ||
Now, certainly I have my criticisms here because this creates a whole bunch of problems, but hey, Democrats, Trump was allowed to do it. | ||
Even Thomas Massey was pointing that out. | ||
Media reports, President Donald Trump let it fly in a wild rant about rep AOC. | ||
Now on Tuesday, and also targeted crying Chuck Schumer, rep Jasmine Crockett, Ilan Omar, saying, you know what, how about I just pull up the actual post here? | ||
I love, I'm sorry. | ||
I'm not a fan of the strikes on Iran. | ||
I'm hoping the ceasefire holds. | ||
If Trump pulls this off, it'll have been a tremendous victory and it will have proven him and his supporters, right? | ||
The anti-war side, I consider myself included. | ||
We are fearful of the escalation. | ||
And when the rockets were fired from Rhonda Quarter, I was worried. | ||
I was deeply worried because I don't know how you control for these things. | ||
But that being said, Trump dropping that F-bomb this morning. | ||
I love this guy. | ||
He's so great. | ||
Yelling at Israel and Iran. | ||
I pray right now that I was wrong and I hope that Trump is successful. | ||
That's all I care about. | ||
I want to be wrong. | ||
I'm glad to be. | ||
I don't want this war to escalate. | ||
I want the domestic agenda to be carried out. | ||
That being said, I love reading Trump Truth Socials. | ||
This is a long one. | ||
You ready? | ||
He says, stupid AOC Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, one of the dumbest people in Congress, is now calling for my impeachment, despite the fact that the crooked and corrupt Democrats have already done that twice before. | ||
The reason for her rantings is all of the victories the USA has had under the Trump administration. | ||
The Democrats aren't used to winning, and she can't stand the concept of our country being successful again. | ||
When we examine her test scores, we'll find out that she is not qualified for office, but nevertheless far more qualified than Crockett, who is a seriously low IQ individual, or Ilhan Omar, who does nothing but complain about our country, yet failed the country that she comes from. | ||
Yet the failed country that she comes from doesn't have a government, is drenched with crime and poverty, and is rated one of the worst in the world. | ||
If it's even rated at all. | ||
How dare the mouse tell us How to run the United States of America. | ||
We're just now coming back from the radical left experiment with Sleepy Joe Kamala and the autopen in charge. | ||
What a disaster it was. | ||
AOC should be forced to take the cognitive test that I just completed at Walter Reed Medical Center as part of my physical. | ||
As the doctor in charge said, President Trump aced it, meaning I got every answer right. | ||
Instead of her constant complaining, Alexandre should go back home to Queens, where I was also brought up, and straighten out her filthy, disgusting, crime-ridden streets in the district she represents, which she never goes to anymore. | ||
She better start worrying about her own primary before she thinks about beating our great Palestinian senator, Cryon Shark Schumer, whose career is definitely on very thin ice. | ||
She and her Democrat friends have just hit the lowest poll numbers in congressional history. | ||
So go ahead and try impeaching me again. | ||
Make my day. | ||
I got my complaints about Trump, man, but I am entertained. | ||
I can say it like that, right? | ||
How about that? | ||
Now, it's not just AOC, of course, Jasmine Crockett. | ||
And also, Thomas Massey. | ||
I like Thomas Massey. | ||
I think he's principled. | ||
I think he's great. | ||
I often disagree with him. | ||
I wouldn't vote the way he votes. | ||
But I mean, the thing that we strive for in politics, those of us that are reasonable, is that we have reasonable disagreements with people. | ||
I suppose the problem is with a very thin majority in Congress, Thomas Massey being Thomas Massey is a thorn in the side of Trump's agenda. | ||
I respect it, though. | ||
I understand we want victory. | ||
This is my attitude. | ||
I think Thomas Massey should just support these bills. | ||
I said the same thing during COVID, and we saw that bad things happen from the mass spending. | ||
It's true. | ||
It's true. | ||
Thomas Massey is likely right about the long-term effects. | ||
But the question I have right now is, are we going to win in 2028 and prevent the Democrats from flooding the country with illegal immigrants and then screwing with the census so that they can maintain they're cheating our elections, which is literally what they do. | ||
Now, anyway, to the news, we've got this from Mediite. | ||
AOC fires back after brutal Trump attack. | ||
It only took you five months to break almost every promise you made. | ||
Yeah, no, I don't think that's correct. | ||
Michael Malice wrote a book about it. | ||
What is it? | ||
Not sick of winning? | ||
Let me make sure I get the title right for you, Michael. | ||
Not sickofwinning.com. | ||
Guys, Michael Malice wrote a book, Not Sick of Winning, and he basically has a chapter for every day of Trump's first hundred days. | ||
And he shows every day that Trump did something good. | ||
So I got to say, Trump actually did a pretty great job so far. | ||
I will say this, my initial assessment on the strikes in Iran was that brings Trump into a net negative territory for his presidency. | ||
Should the ceasefire hold, in my esteem, it will have recovered. | ||
I don't think Iran should have nuclear weapons. | ||
I don't think it was justified to the United States. | ||
I know I said it before. | ||
Not everybody sees every episode, guys, so forgive me. | ||
But I don't think they justified effectively to the American people why we would engage in this campaign, especially when they were saying they were trying to get Iran to the negotiating table and they may come to the White House. | ||
Many of us who were concerned the intervention would spiral out of control saw this as a betrayal. | ||
Hey, no, we're going to bring them to the White House. | ||
We're going to negotiate this. | ||
And I said, okay, great. | ||
Crisis averted. | ||
And then boom, bombs drop. | ||
Now, if the ceasefire holds, well, okay, what can I complain about? | ||
I don't like the president engaging in these strikes. | ||
But if it doesn't go to a greater war and we avert this, you know, I'll put it this way. | ||
You know, I've talked about before that say an old lady's driving and she crashed into somebody, they're going to say vehicular homicide or negligent homicide. | ||
If she almost hits them and swerves out of the way, there's no cops, there's no arrest, there's no ticket, literally nothing happened. | ||
That is the fine line between catastrophe, legal action, disdain, news stories, and literal nothing. | ||
Like again, with this military strike, which Trump does have the authority under the war powers resolution to do, he risked dragging us into a massive catastrophe. | ||
But he has not taken a strong stance to avoid that. | ||
And if he maintains this, it will be a tremendous victory. | ||
And I will remain deeply impressed because I didn't see this as a possibility. | ||
Anyway, I digress. | ||
Back to AOC. | ||
She says, Mr. President, don't take your anger out on me. | ||
I'm just a silly girl. | ||
Agreed. | ||
Resign. | ||
AOC wrote an excellent response to a lengthy truth social post. | ||
Trump wrote, stupid AOC. | ||
We get it. | ||
We get it. | ||
She says, don't take your anger out on me. | ||
I'm just a silly girl. | ||
Take it on whoever convinced you to betray the American people and our Constitution by illegally bombing Iran and the Dragosing in the war. | ||
It only took you five months to break almost every promise you made. | ||
I just think that's wrong. | ||
That is not correct. | ||
Trump does have the authority. | ||
Hey, I'm going to pull it all up for you guys. | ||
The War Powers Resolution of 1973. | ||
And I talked to Thomas Massey about this. | ||
I was not familiar. | ||
The president can launch limited military strikes, notify Congress within 48 hours, and then he has 60 days, 60 days to engage in hostilities. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
With a further 30-day withdrawal period. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
Unless Congress gives him an authorization for use of military force. | ||
I'll jump back to this, but this is what they are all saying. | ||
I'm not a fan of this. | ||
I think the power of the executive branch has gone too far. | ||
They've basically given the president the unilateral authority to start wars. | ||
Because the reality is, if the president strikes Iran and then Iran strikes back, then he goes to Congress and says, well, we're at war now. | ||
Well, what are they going to do? | ||
No. | ||
To be fair, that is the point. | ||
Congress should say, no, we're done. | ||
Assuming we're invaded by Iran, like never going to happen. | ||
But yeah, then people are going to be fighting. | ||
But if we're launching strikes on a foreign nation, what, 12,000 miles away or whatever, Congress should say no. | ||
Now, Giuliani stepped in yesterday and said AOC should be tried for treason over Trump impeachment costs. | ||
Whoa, whoa. | ||
Slow down there, buddy? | ||
No. | ||
I just say no to this. | ||
Tried for treason. | ||
Yeah, the penalty for treason is 10 years or death. | ||
It's not literally just one or the other, it's a scale. | ||
But AOC's not committing treason against the United States for saying not to engage in military strikes or calling for Trump's impeachment. | ||
She is just being stupid. | ||
She can call for impeachment, fine, whatever. | ||
That's dumb. | ||
They say on Saturday, Trump announced the strikes. | ||
Julian told Newsmax the military strikes were brilliant and called Iran a terrorist state. | ||
He then criticized Democrats. | ||
He says, I find what the Democrats are doing. | ||
They want an impeachment. | ||
They should be tried for treason. | ||
American and military personnel are right now in harm's way coming back from that strike. | ||
They are in harm's way all over the Middle East, and they are condemning the president for taking action against a country who wants to annihilate us. | ||
While Giuliani did not mention AOC by name, the Newsmax host said after his comments, you're referring to Congressman AOC, who's now calling for President Trump to be impeached. | ||
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But wait! | |
It's not just AOC. | ||
Everyone's favorite, Kane-Wiggling Al Green, has a message for all of you. | ||
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Into an authoritarian. | |
An authoritarian. | ||
An authoritarian. | ||
How many times are you going to say it, buddy? | ||
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Government usurping congressional power to declare war. | |
Mr. Speaker, I take no delight in what I'm doing. | ||
I do this because I love my country. | ||
No, you don't. | ||
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I do this because I understand that the Constitution is going to be meaningful or it will be meaningless. | |
I do it because I understand that the President of the United States of America has a duty to consult Congress before taking this country to war. | ||
Nope. | ||
I do it because no one person should have the power to take over 300 million people to war without consulting with the Congress of the United States of America. | ||
I don't disagree with this. | ||
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Because if I do not, this authoritarian president that we currently have will continue to assume power. | |
He has already instigated an assault on the Citadel of Democracy, the capital of the United States of America. | ||
He went so far as to pardon the persons who were actually involved in the assault. | ||
He has denied persons due process of the law. | ||
I believe that if we do not take immediate action, this authoritarian president will not only devolve the country into authoritarianism, I believe he is a would-be dictator who would become a dictator. | ||
So I today announce that later today, I will bring these articles of impeachment to the floor and I will call for a vote. | ||
I believe that the hour of decision is upon us and we all have to decide. | ||
Are we going to go down and choose the path of democracy or we allow ourselves to choose the low road of autocracy? | ||
I believe that this country has come too far to allow a single person to declare war without conferring with the Congress of the United States. | ||
Blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
Well, here's Jasmine Crockett. | ||
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and to understand enough about the Constitution to the extent that I'm the one that's supposed to make the fucking decision or at least get a vote. | |
Yeah. | ||
That's right. | ||
'Cause Ron is telling me. | ||
Right. | ||
So literally, like, I have. | ||
Crocket on Trump's Iran move. | ||
I'm the one meant to make these effing decisions. | ||
I get the point she's trying to make. | ||
Congress does. | ||
Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's start with our good friends over at the BBC because they're British and they would know, right? | ||
Did Trump have the legal authority to strike Iran? | ||
Do I really need to read all their pattern? | ||
Since years, President Donald Trump ordered strikes on several nuclear facilities in Iran over the weekend, Democrats, as well as lawmakers from his own party have questioned his legal authority to do so. | ||
Republican Congressman Thomas Mansey said at an X that the strikes were not constitutional. | ||
And another Republican Congressman, Warren Davidson, wrote, it's hard to conceive of a rationale that is constitutional. | ||
Republican Speaker Thou Smike Johnson defended the president, saying he evaluated the imminent danger outweighed the time it would take for Congress to act, and that there's tradition of similar military action under presidents of both parties. | ||
BBC verified it. | ||
BBC Verify has asked legal experts whether Trump's actions were in line with his constitution or whether he should have consulted Congress first. | ||
Okay, I tried to go as fast as I could. | ||
Four constitutional experts told BBC Verify that Trump had some authority under these circumstances to order the military strikes. | ||
Quote, the short answer is yes. | ||
He did have the authority here, says Claire Finkelstein, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. | ||
There's a long-standing practice of presidents engaging in isolated military engagements without congressional approval. | ||
Another constitutional law expert, Jessica Levinson at Loyal Marymount University, said the president has limited authority to authorize airstrikes as long as it doesn't begin to resemble a war, and there's no clear definition of when that occurs. | ||
They do want to mention that Andrew Rudolvich, Rudelvich, I don't know how to pronounce your name, dude, told BBC he didn't believe Trump had the authority to launch the latest strikes as there wasn't a sudden attack to repel. | ||
Although Article 1 gives Congress power to declare war, the provision has rarely been used. | ||
The last time Congress evoked this power was in 1942 after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor during the Second World War. | ||
Okay, so here's the issue at question. | ||
The War Powers Resolution of 1973, a federal law intended to check the U.S. President's power to commit the U.S. to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress. | ||
The resolution was adopted in the form of the United States Congressional Joint Resolution. | ||
It provides the president can send the U.S. armed forces into action abroad by Congress statutory authorization or in the case of a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces. | ||
This is where we get the contention. | ||
They say the bill was introduced by Clement Zablocki, a Democratic congressman representing Wisconsin's 4th District. | ||
The War Powers Resolution requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days with a further 30-day withdrawal period without congressional authorization for use of military force. | ||
That's called an AUMF or a declaration of war. | ||
The resolution was passed by two-thirds of each House overriding the veto of Richard Nixon. | ||
And it's been alleged. | ||
That's really funny. | ||
Nixon's like, I don't want this power. | ||
And then I don't need to talk about it. | ||
Oh, I don't want this power. | ||
There you go. | ||
That's a better Nixon. | ||
And then they were like, nah, you're going to have it anyway. | ||
It has been alleged the war powers resolution has been violated in the past. | ||
However, Congress has disapproved all such incidents. | ||
And no allegations have resulted in successful legal actions taken against the president. | ||
So the argument is because of a national emergency with Iran's nuclear program, Trump had the authority to make that strike. | ||
That is, the argument made by Trump and his supporters is that U.S. forces in the region were at risk of imminent strike by Iran. | ||
So Trump decided to attack before were to happen. | ||
However, it says an emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories, positions, and armed forces. | ||
So it is contentious, but I don't believe, especially, you know, talking with Thomas Massey, that, look, I'll put it this way. | ||
I think that the line in which Trump has the authority to do this is so thin and vague that it's going to happen, it can happen, and it will end up in court. | ||
Trump's going to say, Iran has already attacked our forces in the Middle East. | ||
We've got the Houthi rebels. | ||
We've got various insurgent groups attacking our troops and bases in Iraq. | ||
We've had injuries already. | ||
These attacks have been ongoing, and the emergency is exacerbated upon the belief and the intelligence that Iran is working towards a nuclear weapon and has enriched uranium. | ||
For that reason, we strike. | ||
A lot of people are going to say, you can't do that. | ||
We weren't attacked. | ||
And Trump's going to say, yes, we were here. | ||
And he's going to point to all these instances where Iranian-backed militia groups are attacking the U.S. And they're going to say, our intelligence says this is Iran. | ||
Basically, the problem with this law, in my view, is it effectively gives Donald Trump or any other president, it's not just him personally, a permanent start a war free card. | ||
Now, Congress is supposed to declare wars. | ||
And the argument would be Trump striking Iran is going to start that war. | ||
Trump's argument, the argument from MAGA is likely going to be, they're already attacking us. | ||
The only difference is that we have not chosen to engage back. | ||
In which case, this strike on the nuclear facility was because we've shown restraint. | ||
That'll be their argument. | ||
I don't like the law. | ||
I think there should be a resolution that alters this or defines the scope. | ||
But there is a challenge and there always will be a challenge. | ||
The reason why this exists is because there is a fear that if the U.S. is attacked, it would take too long to go to Congress and say, please, please, please. | ||
That was one of the problems that Rome had. | ||
And the anarchist communes, which rarely exist. | ||
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Why? | |
They get crushed. | ||
Story goes that these anarchist communes, Catalonia, ah, Catalonia, they got conquered, right? | ||
The argument is you get these people living communes where they're like, we don't have a leader. | ||
We will come together by committee. | ||
Great. | ||
When the barbarian horde storm negates and you go, quick, everyone, come together and form a committee. | ||
You get overrun in seconds. | ||
The idea here is the president exists. | ||
The purpose of the presidency with the executive power is so that they can take these actions to defend the country if we don't have the time to convene Congress. | ||
This is a slippery slope, but don't be naive. | ||
There is no perfect pedestal. | ||
There is no point at which we've solved the issue. | ||
There is only going to be lesser or greater degrees of authority among the executive branch, and you get to decide. | ||
You know, people often like to say things like, you don't give up freedom for security. | ||
And the famous quote from Ben Franklin, those who would give up their freedom for a little temporary security deserve neither and will lose both. | ||
And it's true, but it's limited. | ||
The issue is it's easy to say that when you don't have people bombing your cities. | ||
It's easy to say that when you don't have 10 plus million illegal immigrants. | ||
And so when you have a massive scale and population, I'm not saying we should enact security protocols. | ||
I'm saying it's easy to be like, no, we don't need that. | ||
I'll deal with it myself. | ||
When you're living in a city of 10,000 people and there's 2 million people among 13 states, then when you get 330 million people with major dense population centers and one guy can take a bomb and blow up 300, now you're like, wow. | ||
The one thing that I would say, though, in response to that is not my problem. | ||
Don't take away the rights of people who don't want to live your way simply because you're scared. | ||
And then lies the reality. | ||
There's challenges here. | ||
We're going to have to break them down. | ||
But my friends, we're going to be joined by Dave Smith in just a moment to talk about his view on the current state of the ceasefire, what's actually going on. | ||
And it's a contentious view. | ||
But we've had Laurel Loomer very supportive of Trump. | ||
We've had Thomas Massey critical of Trump's moves and more moderately critical. | ||
And now we're going to go on the other end with Dave, who really, you know, he's been critical of this from the beginning. | ||
So that'll be up at 4 p.m. | ||
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From the Financial Times, Israel-Iran latest fragile truce appears to take hold after Trump rebukes Israel and Iran. | ||
The U.S. president has accused both sides of violating the ceasefire. | ||
And the latest update is Trump warned Israel not to drop the bombs. | ||
They went and did it anyway. | ||
And the Financial Times acknowledges that even after Trump said don't do it, say a truce brokered by the U.S. president went to effect on Tuesday morning, but Israel swiftly claimed it had been broken by Tehran and struck an Iranian radar station. | ||
However, it said that after a conversation between Trump and Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, it would refrain from further attacks. | ||
Trump posted, don't do it. | ||
Israel did it. | ||
I think this is this game where they're basically saying, I will have the last word in this regard. | ||
And Trump is trying to get them to back off and stop. | ||
It was a real smack in the face to Trump that Israel bombed this radar station, despite the fact Trump said, don't do it. | ||
It was an hour and a half before the news was reported. | ||
So there had to be time to call it off. | ||
That being said, Trump, I think, being the adult in the room, likely said to Israel, just stop, Iran, don't retaliate. | ||
But support right now, I mean, I think I actually have the, this is from CNN. | ||
A majority of Americans disapprove of Trump's Iran airstrikes, CNN poll finds. | ||
Now, it's hard to know exactly where Trump's polling stands. | ||
In the past week, he's had tremendous polling. | ||
Insider Advantage has Trump up 10, Trafalgar up 9, and Russ Mussen up 5. Now, over the period of the bombing, Reuters Ipsos has him at minus 16. But let me just track the previous Reuters Ipsos, which had him at minus 12, meaning a four-point swing in the negative. | ||
It's hard to know exactly how this will affect Trump's approval rating, but we're going to be joined by Dave Smith, who's been particularly prominent on this issue. | ||
Despite the fact that he is a comedian, he certainly has a lot to say about this, as he is entitled to. | ||
So we're going to pull this in, loading up the live player now, and we should be good to go. | ||
Dave, you there? | ||
What's up, brother? | ||
How's it going? | ||
You can hear me. | ||
See me? | ||
I hear you and see you. | ||
How are you, sir? | ||
Pretty good. | ||
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Pretty good. | |
I'm curious how you are. | ||
How do you feel about this ceasefire? | ||
Well, I mean, it's wonderful. | ||
You know, it's kind of hard to say what's going to happen right now. | ||
It's been a wild, I mean, I got to say that the last week has probably been up there with the wildest weeks since me and you have been covering politics. | ||
And, you know, it's hard to say because Donald Trump has signaled almost everything over the last week. | ||
And so he's talking about evacuating Tehran and regime change a few days ago. | ||
Now he seems to be signaling. | ||
He seems to have taken the off-ramp or desires to take the off-ramp that essentially the Iranians allowed by doing what they did after Soleimani was struck again, by striking back, but not really striking back and giving America advanced warning and making sure, you know, essentially Iran is in this obvious position where they're like, we can't look like we're doing nothing in response to this to our own people, but we really, really don't want it. | ||
We don't want to fight for obvious reasons. | ||
And so Donald Trump wants to be taking this off ramp. | ||
Now he seems to be frustrated with that Benjamin Netanyahu and many of the Hawks never wanted an off-ramp. | ||
And as you know well, this has always been about regime change for them. | ||
So I would be thrilled if this is the end of it. | ||
But at the same time, I do think it's a moment. | ||
Like, let's just say this sticks and this is the end of the immediate conflict right now. | ||
It is a moment for Americans to kind of reevaluate a lot of things here. | ||
Because number one, I think that the Hawks' foundational claim to this entire issue, which I would argue is every bit as phony as their claims for all of the other wars in the last 25 years. | ||
But the foundational claim about Iran has been that Iran cannot be allowed to get a nuclear weapon. | ||
And this is something obviously that Donald Trump has bought into very much too. | ||
But this claim kind of relies on an argument that Iran is so uniquely crazy and evil that if they got a nuclear weapon, they'll just use it. | ||
They'll just nuke it. | ||
Now, forget the fact that they're not pursuing a nuclear weapon. | ||
They don't have a nuclear weapon. | ||
They don't have the capability to deliver one if they were to get one. | ||
But it's like, I mean, Tim, a lot of really bad people have gotten nuclear weapons in history. | ||
Joseph Stalin got nuclear weapons. | ||
Mao Zedong got nuclear weapons. | ||
Right now, you know, Putin and G and a lot of bad people have nuclear weapons. | ||
And the idea that Iran is so uniquely evil because they just don't care about their own survival, that claim seems to really be falling apart. | ||
I mean, Iran, if Iran wanted to, they could have killed a lot more people and they didn't for the reason that they do care about their self-preservation. | ||
They would much rather rule their country than be violently deposed. | ||
Well, let me ask you this. | ||
You said that they wouldn't be able to get a nuclear weapon, but I think the U.S. has stated that they were weeks away from being able to produce one. | ||
Do you think that's not correct? | ||
Oh, it's, I mean, look, I think this is totally phony. | ||
I mean, all, look, all of the intelligence, all of the intelligence until the day after Israel started bombing them was that they're nowhere, even Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the most, you know, has the longest track record of predicting how close Iran is to a nuclear weapon and is always wrong. | ||
He said in his interview with Brett Bayer, maybe a year, maybe 13 months. | ||
Then all of a sudden, the next day, Tulsi Gabbard comes out and completely contradicts her testimony and the DNI annual threat assessment that both said that Iran does not have nuclear weapons and is not pursuing nuclear weapons. | ||
So what did she say specifically? | ||
Something they could be weeks. | ||
No intelligence report or anything like that, but that they could be weeks away from getting a nuclear weapon. | ||
The fact is that this is going nuclear and the best person at breaking this down, of course, is Scott Horton. | ||
But this is something there was a focus group test in 1990 where they decided that like, you know, the whole like the whole idea of going in there to like liberate people, like using that as a justification for war, you know, we got to drive Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait to put the king back in power. | ||
That didn't really resonate with the American people, but the nuclear threat always did. | ||
And it's not a coincidence that that threat has been used both in the war in Iraq and in the propaganda for this war. | ||
But listen, Muammar Gaddafi got rid of his nuclear program and they still went in and overthrew him. | ||
That's never really what this has been about. | ||
And as I bring up all the time, whether you look at the Clean Break Doctrine or you look at General Wesley Clark's comments about the seven countries in five years, the game here has always Been to have regime change against all of the states that are hostile to Israel. | ||
That's been what these guys have been fighting for forever. | ||
And I just think it's a real moment for Americans to wake up and go: look, what did we just do? | ||
We just launched a war against a country that hadn't attacked us, that wasn't an imminent threat, that poses no real threat to the United States of America. | ||
And we did it. | ||
And then when our president, after blundering and getting us into this mess, makes the heroic decision to end the thing, what does Netanyahu do? | ||
He tries to get it going again. | ||
I mean, like, why would we put ourselves in this position where we're allowing a country to constantly be pressuring us into another war that almost everybody knows would be a catastrophe if we were to go through? | ||
Like, does anyone not think that Benjamin Netanyahu wants us to continue this war and have a regime change there? | ||
Who thinks that would work out well? | ||
He certainly does. | ||
There's been a couple polls that I've read that show the majority of Americans oppose the strikes on Iran. | ||
Even among Trump, among the Republican Party, there is a higher rate of disapproval for the strikes than general disapproval for Trump. | ||
But you mentioned Mumar Gaddafi. | ||
And one of the arguments I heard as to why Iran does want to enrich uranium and does want to produce a nuke is because Gaddafi agrees to give up his nukes and they go in and they kill him. | ||
And so the argument then is the Iranians are like, your word means nothing. | ||
If we abandon our efforts, you're going to come in for regime change. | ||
So it actually, I think a lot of people have made the argument, and it makes sense, they were pursuing this because of the threat of regime change. | ||
Well, certainly our actions, both in Libya and now just our actions over the last week, do nothing but incentivize them to want to get a nuclear weapon, which is, you know, when you think about it, it's just like the most counter. | ||
Isn't that government for you, Tim? | ||
You know, like a stated problem. | ||
And then you pursue the policy that is most likely to make this a self-fulfilling prophecy or something like that. | ||
But at least where we were before the war, and now we'll have to see, you know, a lot of this depends on what happens next. | ||
But at least before the war, what Iran was trying to do was to negotiate America back into the JCPOA. | ||
And it was Donald Trump who allowed the Hawks to put the poison pill in the negotiations, that they had to give up all Euro all enrichment and their civilian nuclear program, which is something they just weren't going to do and isn't really a very reasonable ask. | ||
But look, they have an inspections regime that's inspecting the nuclear sites there in Iran. | ||
And so, look, it just seems to me that what they wanted, the most reasonable explanation is that they wanted to have essentially a latent nuclear deterrent and then they wanted to have a negotiation chip in the negotiations. | ||
So they wanted to have something that they could negotiate away in exchange for reducing sanctions or something like that. | ||
So this morning, I wake up to Donald Trump dropping an F-bomb over Israel and Iran violating the ceasefire. | ||
But Trump was actually much more stern with Israel, saying that the moment they announce this, Israel goes and drops bombs, the likes of which is never seen. | ||
Iran fires one rocket that hits nothing. | ||
And now Israel is prepared to do this launch. | ||
He said he's very upset with them. | ||
He posted on Truth, do not do it. | ||
An hour and a half later, it was reported that Israel did strike a radar station in Iran, seemingly in defiance of what Trump instructed them to do. | ||
I'm curious what you think. | ||
How will Trump react to this? | ||
Is he going to try and pull the, okay, yeah, Netanyahu kind of just spat in my face, but I don't want this war to break out? | ||
Or does he hold a grudge against Israel for basically spitting in his face? | ||
Well, you know, what Donald Trump has already put up with from Netanyahu and still just been his number one supporter is pretty remarkable. | ||
I mean, Netanyahu, as you remember well, Tim, came out and stabbed Donald Trump in the back after the 2020 election, after Donald Trump had done everything for Netanyahu. | ||
Everything. | ||
Moving the embassy to Jerusalem, getting us out of the JCPOA, of course, because we could have avoided this entire thing. | ||
But for Netanyahu, Donald Trump decided to pull out of it. | ||
If you remember back in... | ||
That's the Iran nuclear deal that Obama got us into with the Europeans and the Iranians. | ||
And Donald Trump, if you remember, this was Donald Trump really upset the Hawks in 2016 when he had, he had, I forget exactly what he said, but this is when Donald Trump was very new when he first started running for president. | ||
And people asked him, how does he feel? | ||
Someone asked him, like, how does he feel about Israel-Palestine? | ||
And he said, we should be neutral and we should stay out of it. | ||
And that is, you know, to Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro, that's basically like saying, Adolf Hitler was a great guy and we should do what he said all over again. | ||
Like, it's like the worst thing you could say. | ||
Yeah, well, probably. | ||
But and then Donald Trump, being the savvy businessman and politician that he is, he went and gave a speech at AIPAC. | ||
And the first thing he said to APAC was, I will get us out of the Iran deal. | ||
The Iran deal is the worst deal that's ever been made. | ||
And they loved it. | ||
Anyway, he did everything for them. | ||
And then Benjamin Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu congratulated Joe Biden on winning the presidential election before our media was even calling the election for Joe Biden, when it was still very contested, before the court cases, before any of that. | ||
And so I don't know, will Donald Trump take this? | ||
It seems to me I've seen a long track record of Israel being this country that is essentially America's welfare mom. | ||
We support them in everything they do. | ||
They always turn to us. | ||
They always talk a big game, how they can do it all on their own. | ||
And then, oh, they actually can't. | ||
If you remember, Tim, way, way, way, way back 72 hours ago, everybody on Twitter, all the hawks were lecturing me about how Israel doesn't even need America's help. | ||
Israel's doing this all on their own. | ||
All they need you to do is just shoot down some missiles when they're lobbed back in their direction. | ||
But America's staying out of the, oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
But turns out, actually, they can't do that. | ||
They couldn't keep their war in Gaza, their destruction of Gaza going for another two months without Americans supplying the munitions and the intelligence. | ||
So the thing is, they always rely on us and then they spit in the faces of the American presidents. | ||
And every single one of them just takes it and keeps moving forward and keeps supporting them. | ||
And so I don't know. | ||
Trump is a different animal. | ||
That, the clip you're talking about, was the angriest I've ever seen him at Israel. | ||
At anybody. | ||
So, you know, we will see. | ||
Well, I mean, it wasn't quite what he did to Zelensky, but it was pretty angry. | ||
There's an argument on the Zelensky thing, but he's being asked by these reporters, and you can tell the moment where he just he broke and he said, you know what? | ||
We've got two countries. | ||
And he says, I don't know what the they're doing. | ||
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I mean, the story is the expletive of Trump. | ||
I actually see, I'm actually kind of happy right now, to be honest. | ||
I'm not a fan of U.S. intervention in foreign countries because you are dropping a match onto a powder keg. | ||
You can make all the arguments for, look, when they come out and they say that there's 60% enriched uranium can be used for dirty bombs. | ||
It can be used for weapons, all that stuff. | ||
I say, okay, that's bad. | ||
I don't know that's a justification for the U.S. potentially triggering a complete destabilization of the region. | ||
U.S. boots on the ground. | ||
You may be talking about a cure that's worse than the disease. | ||
That being said, if the ceasefire holds and now Trump has a grudge against Netanyahu and this puts a barrier between the U.S. relations with Israel in such a way that Trump is basically like, you've betrayed us too many times. | ||
I know there's going to be a lot of people who are going to take that one too seriously. | ||
No, I mean like Trump's going to have a personal grudge over Netanyahu dropping a bomb when he said not to do it, putting him at risk and making him look like a chump. | ||
This could actually hopefully bring Trump back to a place where he's like, I don't want to be involved in their problems anymore because they're going to screw us over. | ||
This was a mistake. | ||
And hopefully it turns out, okay, we get rid of their nuclear program. | ||
Now Trump doesn't want to listen to Netanyahu anymore because his word isn't worth it. | ||
And it removes us from these regional conflicts potentially. | ||
Well, I mean, that would be the best case scenario. | ||
And so, sure, I hope that's what comes of all of this. | ||
The reason why I'm kind of skeptical about that is that, look, Donald, I mean, Donald Trump just, he can call it the 12-day war. | ||
And if it ends at 12 days, that's great. | ||
But he just launched a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign country that literally, I hope everybody really appreciates this. | ||
This is a tremendous irony of this whole situation is that what stopped this from being a catastrophe was Iranian restraint. | ||
Iran chose not to kill Americans. | ||
Like that's, he put the, he put American soldiers in that position where it was the decision of the Iranians to give advance notice so that we could clear people out of there and didn't kill people. | ||
But, you know, Israelis died in this thing and civilians, Israeli civilians died in this thing. | ||
Iranians died in this thing. | ||
This was horrible and didn't need to happen. | ||
And so, look, maybe that is the outcome of all of this, but Donald Trump could have just done that without launching this war. | ||
He could have just said, hey, we're not participating in any more of your wars. | ||
This is not our problem. | ||
And it's not even, look, obviously, like, as you've known me for years, Tim, like I'm a real non-interventionist and I have a very strict standard for when I think war is morally acceptable. | ||
But even if you were going to argue like for a war of choice, for a preemptive, aggressive war of choice, right now, we are $37 trillion in debt. | ||
We have major issues in our problems. | ||
How many illegal entries did we have to the country in the last administration? | ||
None of us really know. | ||
Maybe 10 million. | ||
We don't really know how many people came in under Joe Biden. | ||
And now Donald Trump is trying to, in the weeks leading up to this, trying to implement his number one policy priority, which is deportations. | ||
There are protests in the streets against. | ||
He needs all the political capital he can for that. | ||
We've got 100,000 plus ODs every year. | ||
We have major, major problems. | ||
Almost every city in this country is falling apart. | ||
And so to now, at this point, choose to get involved in this when he could have just said all along, no, we're not doing this. | ||
We will fight a war if we are legitimately threatened, not for other nations. | ||
I will be very, very, I hope I'm wrong and that my fear was, you know, Iran's going to mine the Strait of Hormuz. | ||
They're going to retaliate. | ||
They're going to say we won't surrender. | ||
I wouldn't give Iran the credit I think you're giving them when you say they chose to give us advanced warning. | ||
I think the reality is Trump's not a man you play chicken with. | ||
He's pissed. | ||
And so Iran's basically saying we don't want to go to war. | ||
And they're basically like, they're backing off. | ||
But I agree with that. | ||
I mean, look, Iran is, it's not just that it's Donald Trump, but I'm sure it's also, that is a big part of it. | ||
But the U.S. government, it's funny because the Hawks always talk about like the threats or the chance. | ||
They chant death to America or something like that. | ||
Like, we've got to go deal about that. | ||
We've got to start a war based off chance. | ||
They're doing that in California, too. | ||
Yeah, right, right. | ||
But like, let's, all I'm saying here is like, let's have an objective standard and look at both sides and hold them to the same standard. | ||
Okay, so they chant things. | ||
The U.S. government, after putting Iran on the axis of evil after 9-11, even though they had nothing to do with 9-11, we invaded their two neighboring countries, like the two countries that touch Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
If you could picture the map in your head on either side of Iran, we invaded and destroyed both of those countries. | ||
They know who they're messing with here. | ||
They know, and of course, and this is my point. | ||
They don't want it. | ||
Just like all of the, as evil as all of these people, look, Mao Zeitong's the worst human being who ever lived. | ||
He killed more people than anybody else, but he wasn't just going to launch a nuke at somebody because he wanted to rule. | ||
He didn't want to be destroyed. | ||
And he knows if he launches a nuke, nukes are flying back at him. | ||
The point is that the Iranians actually, while they are a theocratic repressive government, do not appear to be suicidal. | ||
And if they were suicidal, they could have killed a bunch of Americans. | ||
And yes, Then they probably Donald Trump. | ||
I mean, look, this is the risk that Donald Trump put us in, though. | ||
Like, let's say they were suicidal, or let's say they just went for it and they did just kill a bunch. | ||
What do you think? | ||
As you just pointed out, what would Donald Trump's response have been to that? | ||
I mean, I don't think there's, yeah, that's right. | ||
And what would it take to have a regime change? | ||
You know, back in the 90s when we invaded Iraq the first time, we invaded the country and still didn't get a regime change. | ||
Now, true, that was because they backed off. | ||
But the point is that the regime withstood an invasion. | ||
Iran is a much stronger, much bigger country. | ||
We would have needed to send the 82nd Airborne in if that had happened. | ||
And so it's just like, I hope people appreciate the catastrophe that we just flirted with. | ||
Like this would have been probably a much tougher war than Iraq or Afghanistan. | ||
We could have gotten ourselves into another 20-year catastrophic quagmire. | ||
Thank God we didn't. | ||
Did you vote for Trump? | ||
I did. | ||
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Do you regret it? | |
You know, a lot of people made a big deal, but I did say that I regretted it the other day. | ||
You know, look, if I voting to me, I have a different kind of theory of voting than most people do. | ||
I think it's kind of like, look, either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump was going to be president. | ||
And I do, you know, you'll have to wait till the end of the four years. | ||
If this is the end of this war, then overall, right now, I'd probably say, yeah, we're still better off that Trump's in there than if Kamala Harris was in there. | ||
But at the same time, that's over. | ||
That's in the past. | ||
I voted for him. | ||
Now I just have whatever I have. | ||
There's not that much influence, but I got an audience and a show or whatever. | ||
And so when he goes to make a catastrophic decision like this, I'm going to use, you know, the most influence I can to be like, no, screw you. | ||
Do not do this. | ||
People who voted for you will turn on you over doing this. | ||
And I think that a lot of people, because Donald Trump is so enormously popular with Republicans and just is the most like popular political figure in the country, so many people, and for understandable reasons, that they won't criticize him. | ||
They'll criticize everyone else around him, but they won't criticize him. | ||
And that's just to me, like to me, that's the role Tucker Carlson is supposed to play. | ||
Tucker Carlson is supposed to keep his influence with Donald Trump, but I'm not. | ||
I'm me. | ||
I'm just supposed to tell the truth. | ||
And so, you know, like my job is to make people laugh at comedy clubs and tell the truth on podcasts. | ||
That's all that I get paid to do. | ||
So my job is to tell the truth and go, hey, no, this is a horrible decision for a president to make. | ||
And look, if that had happened, if Iran had killed some Americans and then Donald Trump had to do a full regime change war or something like that, then that probably would have been worse than even what Kamala Harris would have been, which would have been a disaster also. | ||
So who knows? | ||
You know, we never get to run the counterfactuals. | ||
There were a lot of positives that came out of Donald Trump winning the presidency once again. | ||
You know, I made the joke on X that somewhere in a parallel dimension, Kamala Harris is president and we've already got regime change as the people of Iran clap and cheer for the American troops entering Tehran as liberators. | ||
And I think Trump is the here, I'll give you the quick version of what I think. | ||
I think Israel pressures Trump into the strike. | ||
Trump is wishy-washy. | ||
J.D. Vance clearly didn't want it. | ||
Tulsi Gabbard clearly didn't want it. | ||
Trump has said for decades, Iran, no nuclear weapon. | ||
He's convinced of it. | ||
He says, okay, fine, limited strikes. | ||
Now he's getting pissed because it seems like, of course, Israel's intention was never just striking the nuclear facilities. | ||
They started bombing the IRGC and other targets immediately after the U.S. did. | ||
So they clearly want more. | ||
I think if it was Kamala Harris, we'd be escalating every step of the way right now. | ||
And it's not because of her, but it's because she represents the Democratic Uniparty machine that has wanted boots on the ground in Tehran for decades now. | ||
Trump made the mistake of bringing on Bolton in the first place, but he's one of these guys. | ||
And you can see it from Hillary Clinton to the rest of the D.C. war apparatus. | ||
Bolton said in Trump's first term, this time next year, we'll be celebrating in Tehran. | ||
I think Kamala Harris wins. | ||
I think they push for it. | ||
I think Trump might actually back off right now. | ||
I'm hoping he does. | ||
And I'm hoping that the end of this is we actually are happy that we voted for Trump. | ||
And we say, of all the outcomes we could have gotten. | ||
I'll put it this way. | ||
I always call myself a reformer, not a revolutionary. | ||
If the worst thing we get from Trump is he launches a strike, I don't like it. | ||
I will say I disapprove of it. | ||
But then we don't get an expanding war. | ||
I'll consider this the correct option still. | ||
I'll be very happy that was the outcome. | ||
I don't think we're ever going to get a Rand Paul president who shuts all that down, at least not in the immediate. | ||
So I'm feeling pretty good right now. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, I hope the ceasefire holds, but I'm just wondering what you think is going to happen next. | ||
Well, you know, I don't know. | ||
And particularly, Trump has been so kind of erratic and all over the place in the last week. | ||
I mean, going from first he's negotiating, then Israel strikes, then he says, aha, the negotiations were just to fool you. | ||
So who knows what he's doing with all of this, you know? | ||
But if that's the case, look, I mean, there's no question things look much, much better today than they did just 24 hours ago. | ||
Literally, 24 hours ago, as we're speaking right now, the breaking news was that missiles have been launched at U.S. bases. | ||
And it wasn't for about another hour yesterday that we found out that, oh, they had given advance warning. | ||
So like 24 hours ago, yesterday, it looked like we might be getting sucked into a major catastrophe here. | ||
So things are looking much better today. | ||
Thank God for that. | ||
You know, I will gladly trade people saying, oh, Dave was an alarmist on this for avoiding the catastrophe. | ||
That's fine by me. | ||
And look, the real, you know, we can't go back and run counterfactuals and we're not going back in time. | ||
So what's done has already been done. | ||
So at this point, yeah, let's really hope that Trump walks away from this thing. | ||
And let's really hope that maybe a lot of people learned a bit of a lesson by just seeing, even seeing today, how much the Hawks are turning on Donald Trump. | ||
And like, there's a real asymmetry to this here, right? | ||
Because people could say, oh, hey, Dave, You turned on Donald Trump just last week, and now the Hawks are turning on him this week. | ||
So you all turn on Donald Trump if you don't get your way. | ||
But the fact is that I turned on Donald Trump because a war with Iran could be a catastrophe for the United States of America. | ||
And they're turning on Donald Trump because the regime change would be good for Israel and they don't care if it would be a disaster for America. | ||
You know what I'm hoping? | ||
I'm hoping that, you know, Trump met with Bannon. | ||
He had a phone call with Tucker Carlson. | ||
Tucker says he apologized because he pushed a little too hard. | ||
I'm hoping that Trump had this conversation. | ||
They spoke to him and they said, here are the potential risks. | ||
Here's what you're getting yourself into. | ||
And then he was like, I'm going to go middle of the road on this one because Trump just wants everyone to love him. | ||
I'm hoping what happens now is he sees how much of a hassle it is and how damaging domestically it is to get in the middle of a foreign conflict, especially considering Netanyahu bombed that radar station after Trump said, don't do it. | ||
I'm hoping the end result is that Trump leaves this saying, it's not worth the effort. | ||
I don't want to be involved in these things. | ||
Everybody's pissed at me no matter what I do. | ||
So maybe just don't get involved at all and let the angry people be angry. | ||
If he had focused solely on the domestic issue and his domestic agenda, and we weren't having this conversation, the Hawks would be hawking and begging him to do it. | ||
The people who voted for him wouldn't be complaining about it. | ||
Trump would have no flack in any direction. | ||
And he'd be carrying out his agenda, which has been improving his polls. | ||
So hopefully that's the lesson he gets before he carries it out. | ||
Well, that's right. | ||
Because the Trump agenda has always been popular. | ||
Even when people personally have issues with Donald Trump, which there are always a lot of voters out there who are like, I don't like the way he's always calling people names. | ||
And I don't like the way he does this. | ||
And I don't like all the stunts. | ||
But the agenda of bringing back jobs to America and not having de facto open borders where we don't even know who's in our country and not getting into any more of these stupid wars and improving the economy and more energy and more, like all of this is wildly popular because why wouldn't it be? | ||
Who's against any of that? | ||
Except for like deranged progressives or something. | ||
Who's against any of that? | ||
And so, yeah, hopefully he can pivot away from this and pivot away from these entangling wars and get back to what the whole mission was about, right? | ||
The whole Donald Trump presidency was about. | ||
We're not doing the neocon stuff anymore. | ||
We're doing America first stuff now. | ||
Hopefully that's where we go in the future. | ||
I agree. | ||
And I do think that whatever Trump decides to do, his core base, those who will defend him no matter what, will defend him. | ||
If Trump came out and said, I don't want to be involved in any more of this, so we are ending our involvement in this, then you're going to see the most prominent Trump voices cheering for that decision. | ||
And of course, we would as well. | ||
So I hope that's the route he takes. | ||
But we are out of time. | ||
So Dave, where can people find you? | ||
Oh, my show is part of the problem. | ||
Partoftheproblem.com is where you can go for that. | ||
Thank you, Tim. | ||
It was good to see you, brother. | ||
Likewise. | ||
Likewise, I appreciate you coming on and talking about how you feel about things. | ||
And we'll see you next time. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Take care. | ||
Of course, that was Dave Smith. | ||
He's a comedian. | ||
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Thanks, guys. | |
And it's contentious. | ||
You know, I get flack. | ||
I know exactly what happens. | ||
Look, the point of doing these interviews is largely to interview the subject. | ||
It's not the same as IRL where we have a little bit more debate, more conversation. | ||
This is, we're doing these things digitally. | ||
And so some people have argued that when I had, say, Laura Loomer on or Rand Paul, I should have specifically pushed back in certain areas. | ||
I do my best. | ||
I try to ask what I think. | ||
I try and, you know, if I disagree. | ||
I disagree with Dave on the issue of the nuclear enrichment. | ||
That's why I brought it up. | ||
The reports suggest that they do have the capability. | ||
I don't know if they're going to make a nuke, but they do have enriched uranium. | ||
I think everyone agrees with that. | ||
But I think it's important to hear those voices. | ||
We had Laura Loomer on the other day where she explained the people that were going after Trump, and she was very critical of a lot of people. | ||
I try to do my best and make sure that we're getting an understanding of that as best as we can. | ||
So I do appreciate it. | ||
And I consider Dave a friend. | ||
He's a good dude. | ||
And I lean towards the anti-intervention side. | ||
I'm very happy with Trump right now. | ||
I think he's done a remarkable job. | ||
I loved seeing the exasperation, not to be a dick, but to see that he's realizing it just ain't worth the squeeze. | ||
And I hope that he starts to see that you're not going to please these people, and it's going to be a powder keg for bigger conflict. | ||
Get back to the domestic issue, and the American people will support you. | ||
So with that being said, let's get this raid underway for our friend Russell Brand, who should be, he's gearing up right now. | ||
So we'll send you all on your way. | ||
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Thank you guys so much for tuning in and hanging out. | ||
The raid is currently underway. | ||
I think the best is yet to come. | ||
I trust that Trump is trying to do the right thing, and I trust that sometimes he will make mistakes. | ||
But I think he's got, I still consider him to be the best president of my lifetime. | ||
And I've not experienced anyone better. | ||
Anyone. | ||
And I mean it. | ||
And I mean it. | ||
I said it to him, and I'll say it again. | ||
I don't agree with this. | ||
I don't expect to agree with everything he does. | ||
But he's done a bang-up job so far, and I hope he continues it. | ||
Thanks for hanging out, everybody. | ||
And we will see you all tonight. |