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June 19, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Democrats ARE BROKE, Party Donors FLEE As Approval Hits RECORD LOW
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This could be the end of the Democratic Party.
Now, I was surprised to learn recently, and I can't believe I didn't know this, the Democratic Party is the oldest political party in the world.
And all good things must come to an end, they say, or in this instance, a really, really bad thing.
I'm reminded more of the story of the man who had the ring that said, this too shall pass.
The New York Times is reporting that the DNC is in chaos.
They lost their donor.
Their new leader is on the verge of quitting.
They just removed a bunch of their vice chairs.
And their approval rating has reached a new low.
Republicans, on the other hand, they're doing okay.
I mean, they're underwater.
People have criticisms of the Republicans, but it's fascinating.
The Democratic Party has no leader.
There is no one in the party with charisma.
And even their top polling candidate, For 2028, AOC musters up only around 10%.
Now, to be fair, there have been new primary polls that have come out and said Kamala Harris is the frontrunner.
Oh boy, that's got to hurt.
I can't imagine that there is any sane Democrat left, but if there is some guy, well, to be fair, I don't know how many of the sane ones were there for a while, but let's say there's at least some rational Democrats They're sitting there being like, yeah, we lost.
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That's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
You've got this viral video from Eric Swalwell where the best they can muster up is fictional reality lies.
But people don't want to live in that world.
Liberals, I think, let me put it this way, I think what separates, and we were talking about this on Tim Kist IRL, what separates liberals from conservatives, there are many factors, one of which is, Liberals live in fictional realities.
They base their view of the world off of movies and TV shows.
That's why they think guns with suppressors go pew, pew, pew, when that's not at all what they do.
That's why they think machine gun, like, well, I shouldn't say machine guns.
I was going to say, it's why they think all long guns are machine guns.
And so, what do they do?
Well, to muster up support for their cause, they make fake political videos.
The right?
Not so much.
Maybe they should.
But now we can see the ramifications, my friends.
What's happening is that people are fleeing en masse.
Young people are becoming Christian and conservative.
And they ain't having what the Democrats are selling.
The media, the corporate press, is the only reason why they still exist.
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Let's read the news right now, my friends, from the New York Times.
The DNC is in chaos and desperate for cash.
Under its new leader, Ken Martin, the Democratic National Committee has been plagued by infighting and a drop in big donations, raising alarms for Democrats as they try to win back power.
I really don't think they will.
And I'll also add that we've got I've got a new poll came out just on the 11th and the Democratic Party's ratings are gone.
Now I feel kind of bad.
For all of you guys that are watching, I imagine many of you are sick and tired of the Democratic Party.
Many of you may have been former Democrats.
You quit.
You don't want to have anything to do with these lunatics.
Not that the Republicans are perfect, but I feel kind of bad simply because I feel like we're kicking them when they're down, but boy, are they down.
No, no, I'm kidding.
I don't really feel bad.
And the issue at hand is the Democrats, in my view, are evil.
They're evil people.
Adam Schiff is an evil man.
Jamie Raskin is an evil man.
There was a video, I think it was Nick Sorter, I believe it was Nick Sorter, who asked him simple questions about Abrego Garcia, saying, now that he's been brought, I think his question was, do you have a response to the return of Abrego Garcia, and now that he's being charged for human trafficking, and he got called a fascist, and all the names in the book, and it's like, bro, that's a legitimate question, and it wasn't a gotcha, and it wasn't an insult.
But these people are nuts.
They lie, they cheat, they steal.
Check this out.
Even the New York Times can no longer cover it up.
Just months into the tenure of the new party leader, Ken Martin, the Democratic National Committee's financial situation has grown so bleak that top officials have discussed whether they might need to borrow money this year to keep paying the bills.
Guys, I want but one thing.
For Christmas.
No, wait.
Do we get presents?
We should give presents on the 4th of July.
I think so.
It is for the Democratic Party to buckle and collapse.
I would be so happy.
Fundraising from major donors, some of whom Mr. Martin has still not spoken with, has slowed sharply at the same time.
He has expanded the party's financial commitments to every state and even to far-flung territories like Guam.
Fellow Democrats are grumbling that Mr. Martin, who quietly accepted a raise after taking the post, has been badly distracted by internal battles.
So far, they say, he has been unable to help unite his party against Republicans who control the federal government.
A protracted and public fight with David Hogg, the 25-year-old activist turned DNC vice chair who blindsided party officials with a plan to challenge incumbent Democrats made things worse.
The clash included the leak of embarrassing audio of Mr. Martin questioning his role and ended in Mr. Hogg's unceremonious exit this month.
Guys, who are these people?
David Hogg?
Mr. Martin?
The party's actually been dead for some time, but did you guys know this one?
That this dude, Ken Martin, was crying?
I'm gonna play the audio.
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It has plenty of awards and we're all trying to change those for sure.
But the longer we continue this fight, the harder it is for us to actually do what we all want to do, which is make a difference in this country again.
I deeply respect you, David.
I, too, was looking forward to working with you.
But this has created a situation.
And I'll be very honest with you for the first time in my 100 days on this job.
And Jessica knows this.
The other night I said to myself for the first time, I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
We got them, boys.
He's going to quit.
I'm going to jump to the end because I don't want to hear his blathering.
I'm sure you don't either.
But I do want to hear the part where he nearly cries.
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I'm trying to get my sea legs underneath of me and actually develop any amount of credibility so I can go out there and raise the money and do the job I need to to put ourselves in a position to win.
And again, I don't think you intended this, but you essentially destroyed any chance I have to show the leadership that I need to.
So it's really frustrating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Did you hear that?
The last bit.
The last bit.
One more time.
One more time.
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That I need to.
So, it's really frustrating.
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You can hear when he said the word frustrating.
The man is on the verge of tears.
Now, I gotta tell you guys.
You may be saying, Tim, you're being so mean to the Democrats.
Why?
This is why.
For those that are just listening, not seeing, I've pulled up an image of six mug shots from the Trump administration where they went after Trump's lawyers and advocates, confidants, personnel within his administration, his campaign, etc.
It was no holds barred political corruption against Donald Trump and his team.
They lied about what Trump was doing.
They falsely accused him of crimes.
They trumped up charges against him.
Republicans are many things, but I'd typically describe them as greedy, self-interested jellyfish.
You've got people in the Republican Party that are not going to do what the American people need done.
They're going to pull their heads into their turtle shells and hide.
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Those are the do-nothing, slow down there, Democrats.
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You know what I'm talking about.
And you know, some of them deserve credit.
There are some Democrats I like, too.
There are some Republicans.
There are a lot of Republicans I like.
But the Republican Party, typically, I say this.
You know, let me put it this way.
I got a call from me back several years ago.
I've been making many YouTube videos talking about the Democrats.
And she said, why are you only talking about Democrats?
Why aren't you criticizing Republicans?
And I said, okay, sure.
What have Republicans done?
And she was like, well, I don't know.
I'm just saying you're only ever talking about Democrats.
And I was like, yeah, okay.
By all means, give me a story about a Republican that is shocking and newsworthy.
And I guarantee you, I will cover it.
And there are some.
There are some.
At the time, this was on my TimCast channel on YouTube.
I was doing a video every day at 4 p.m., and it was almost always like Democrats were doing a thing.
And I think the reality was clear.
And my mom came to realize it.
I said, the truth is, when it comes to scandals and untoward behavior, it's the media, it's the Democratic Party.
And the worst thing I can say about Republicans is that they're do-nothings.
They sit on their hands, they cower in fear, and they don't do it.
They're the Washington generals, the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.
They were bad people, they were criminals, there's crooks, there's fraud, all that stuff.
But it pales in comparison.
I mean, if we go back.
We're looking at the Russiagate scandal.
The false accusations against Trump that he was a traitor to his own country.
Of course we're going to talk about that.
It was all lies.
And anybody who actually looked into the news, what did you find?
They were lying.
So what's the story?
Democrats were lying.
Now I'm glad the market finally caught up.
We have this from RealClearPolling.
The current Democratic Party favorability is minus 23.6 in aggregate, with one of the latest polls from Marquette having them down 31. Massive.
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Wow.
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But wait, there's more.
So here's the actual poll from Marquette.
It says approval of the way Republicans in Congress are handling their jobs stands at 43% with disapproval at 57%.
Hey, that's not so good.
Republicans, 43, you're slightly less than 50-50.
How about Democrats?
Oh boy, substantially lower at 29% with disapproval at 71%.
Yikes.
These are unchanged from March.
But wait, there's more!
From Newsweek, disapproval of Democrats in Congress ticks upward, according to a new poll.
And this from just one week ago.
They say voters disapproval of Democratic members in Congress has increased since February, according to a new Quinnipiac poll.
Last November marked a pivotal election in November.
Don't waste my time.
We get it.
Democratic leaders have struggled for some time.
What to know?
A Quinnipiac University poll.
Conducted between June 5th and 9th found that disapproval of Democrats in Congress has increased.
Now that's shocking to me.
I did not think it could get any worse for Democrats, but lo, it has.
70% of participants said they disapprove of how Democrats are handling their jobs in Congress, while 21% approve.
Just 21%.
Oh my God.
That's got to be the lowest approval rating ever for the Democratic Party.
Maybe, I don't know.
Among Democrats, 53% disapprove and 41% approve.
Just 9% of Republicans approve of Democrats' performance, while 84% disapprove.
That is remarkably bad.
Now, here's the best part.
Yo, let's take a look at that poll I just showed from Marquette, and I'll tell you how really bad it is for Democrats.
Approval of the way Republicans in Congress are handling their job.
I mentioned that.
43%.
Democrats 29. Let's take a look at Here we go.
Approval of Republicans in Congress.
Among Republicans, the Republican Party has an 81% approval and a 19% disapproval.
Among independents, yikes, 21% approval, 73% disapproval.
And Democrats give it a 9% approval with a 91% disapproval.
Now, this is actually good news.
Check this out.
If the polling is, it could be good news, but I'll break it down for you.
If among independents, it's more than two to one against, but Republicans are still doing decently well, it's indicative of a large and growing Republican Party, or it's that the poll is weighted poorly, and that could be a reality as well.
But among that weighting, take a look at this.
Approval of Democrats.
Among Republicans, 7% approval to 93% disapproval.
Independents give Democrats a 33% approval to a 67% disapproval, but here's the best part.
Democrats themselves give the Democratic Party a 49% approval rating.
I kid you not.
Democrats disapprove of their own party at 51%.
Yowza.
And thus, my friends, the party's collapsed.
They say it's the oldest political party in the world.
You could argue that the Conservative Party in the UK was an offshoot of the Tories, but it's still a different political party.
And in that regard, the Democrats were the Democratic Republicans.
No, this is it.
All things come to an end.
And the Democratic Party is the oldest party in the world.
It may be on the verge of collapse.
But what happens next?
If the Democratic Party crumbles completely, what do we get?
The Libertarian Party is a bunch of wackaloons.
We may get the Democratic Socialists.
I don't see how they muster anything up.
And it may just be the Republican Party becomes the principal dominant political party in this country.
Because the Democrats can't muster up any meaningful retort.
No charismatic leaders.
No policy plans.
It seems the strategy of Democrats these days is to fight cops to get on TV.
I'm not kidding.
Democrats may just be like, hey, remember that show Cops?
If we're the person attacking the cops and getting arrested, we'll get attention.
And people don't like cops, at least for our voters.
But I don't see how that's going to muster up the suburban housewife vote they need to actually win.
They're going to mention in the New York Times news of two of the country's most influential labor leaders who represent a combined 3.2 million workers were leaving the DNC.
That's crazy.
Rufus Gifford, who served as finance chairman for Kamala Harris, blah, blah, blah, and yada, yada.
Worse than some high school student council drama.
Let me tell you about our good friend David Hogg and his ilk in the DNC.
The truth is, my friends, these people are permanent.
They are perpetual children.
An adult human being, they understand things.
Work is hard.
You've got to go out and you've got to run full speed every day as your body breaks down and you age and you will push like Sisyphus with that rock up a mountain until the very end when your bones give out and the boulder crushes you.
But don't worry.
Don't worry.
Your children, your family and your friends will be there to push that boulder as your knees buckle and give out.
And that's always been the case.
And we pass off that burden.
Of hard work and life to our children, trying always to make it a little bit better.
But what does David Hogg represent?
Well, David Hogg represents the perpetual children who don't want to pick up the burden.
They're not doing the work.
They're not pushing the boulder.
And they're waiting and watching somebody else.
And they're saying, you do it.
And don't get me wrong.
There are a lot of people in Gen Z that are based.
A lot of millennials, too, but millennials are a wacky generation.
And Gen Alpha is tiny largely because of millennials.
So millennials and Gen Z get a problem.
The left wing of these generations are lazy and titled, and they don't want to do any work.
They want communism.
So what happens?
These permanent children get in, and you get high school drama.
And that was always going to be the case.
So here we are.
Now, I do want to give David Hogg one little bit of credit.
David Hogg says Dems backing Iran war should be primaried.
Okay.
Now, I am, you know, I've described it as largely anti-intervention, but I'm not so naive as to say I understand.
I think that the world should never, the United States should never be involved in any kind of conflict ever.
I get it.
Like, if they're trying to kill Donald Trump, Iran, that's an act of war against us.
And I think we have to, you know, do something, right?
I don't know if I want an intervention in boots on the ground, but there's a retaliation.
If our president was assassinated by a foreign adversary, it's war instantly.
You can't exist as a nation if you allow that to happen.
But right now, I say no.
And so I'll give him some credit.
I like a little bit of this.
But let's take a look at what we got.
We have Barack Obama and his fall from grace.
Barack Obama warns the U.S. is dangerously close to slipping into autocracy under Trump.
Really?
Really, Barack Obama?
I got a question.
When you killed that 16-year-old American citizen who was chilling at a civilian restaurant in Yemen, did you—oh, you get the point.
I bring it up all the time.
Barack Obama's not a good dude.
Under Joe Biden, and even under Trump, the DOJ was autocratic.
I mean, the only reason I'd say it didn't fall into autocracy is that we pulled out of that tailspin.
But let's talk about the censorship industrial complex where big tech was banning ideas and telling you that if you disagree with gender ideology, they were going to ban you from their platforms.
And they did.
The removal of Alex Jones from every platform.
It was political manipulation for power.
And we won.
We won, fortunately, so far.
The battle's far from over.
And this is why I'm in favor of Trump's big, beautiful bill.
Because I want Trump's agenda to succeed, despite the fact I understand deficit spending and building up the debt is really bad.
It's really bad.
You know, it's worse.
People like Barack Obama gaining power again and then deciding to lock up random people who disagree with the machine.
And it is incredible.
It's like everything Alex Jones was saying coming true, talking about government overreach, manipulation, spying, the interdimensional stuff and the human hybrid things I don't know so much about.
But I will say this.
When we had Alex Jones on Timcast IRL several years ago, and he was like, Tim, I'm telling you, you're eating cloned beef.
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Okay, the beef you're eating, it's genetically engineered cloned beef.
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And I was like, Alex, that is not true.
We're not eating cloned beef.
And he was like, Google it right now.
And I did.
And you're eating cloned beef.
They've been cloning cows.
Got a little bug.
They've been cloning cows and serving cloned meat.
Man, I didn't realize that.
Because they were like, this cow is desirable or something.
So it's crazy.
But here we are.
Former President Barack Obama has issued a warning about the future of American democracy, saying we're dangerously close to normalizing behavior consistent with autocracies.
If you follow regularly what is said by those who are in charge of the federal government right now, there is a weak commitment to what we understood, and not just my generation, at least since World War II, our understanding of how a liberal democracy is supposed to work.
Let's entertain this.
You got these classical liberals right now.
And they're saying things like, blah, blah, blah.
It's so stupid.
Everybody's got this cartoon movie view of what the world is supposed to be like.
Let me tell you.
During the Roman Empire, it was prosperous.
People actually were living pretty well.
They had the toilets.
And then after the fall of the Roman Empire and the breaking up of Rome, the subsequent nations that developed didn't have indoor plumbing.
Yeah, they would, if you were like the kings, they'd be in a castle.
They literally just had a hole you could sit on and you'd poop and the poop would go straight down like, you know, what, 50 feet and onto the ground where servants would scrape it out.
Yeah, Rome had indoor plumbing.
Rome was all right.
The Roman Republic fell and it became empire.
It's a long history with hundreds of years, and it's not just one thing.
But after this, it was several hundred years of prosperity in the empire.
It doesn't mean that instantly everything was bad and that you were being beaten to death.
Although we prefer not to have monarchies and autocracies or anything like that, I'm saying there is nuance in all things.
The reason I bring this up is that...
It hunted down people across this country over minor misdemeanor trespass, and it put them in solitary confinement.
Some people got convicted and were given 20 years in prison, even if they were not there on January 6th.
And then you come to me and say, Trump shouldn't go after them.
Now shut up.
It's ridiculous.
Maybe, maybe we move into some kind of empire or something like this.
The only advice I can give you is figure out how to survive and navigate these systems.
It's never good to be in an autocratic system, but it's not a creation of Donald Trump.
It's existed.
It's an emergent phenomena, and it's coming to a head, perhaps, where we get a conflict.
I don't know.
What I can say is this idea.
That we have to live in a singular type of world that allows the Democratic Party to run roughshod over the American people is an absurdity.
And they say, yes, but Trump, using the weight of the DOJ and cash, going after these people in the Democratic Party is fascism.
I don't care.
I literally don't care.
OK, here's the problem.
You let corrupt people go.
Corruption breeds.
Perhaps then you argue if you crack down on the corruption, you get empire, you get this, you get autocracy.
OK, I would choose if the choices right now are the Democrats are a rogue political party that have imprisoned people on false charges and were operating like authoritarian zealots.
And then you have the Republicans that rule with with to the to the book of law stringently and fervently.
But by the law of this land, clearly one is better than the other.
I would rather have a third term of Donald Trump than Democrats regaining power.
And you say to me, and I know that they're going to take that out of context.
They're going to be like, oh, that's fascism and Trump can't do it.
I don't want either of those scenarios.
I don't want a Trump third term and I don't want Democrats back in power.
The point I'm bringing up is this photo before your eyes.
They arrested Trump's lawyers.
They violated the Constitution.
They wiped their asses with it.
And that coming back is the fascism, the authoritarianism, the ideological zealotry that I fear.
And Trump having a third term?
Trump barely wants to invoke the Insurrection Act to go after riots.
Congratulations.
He just had the National Guard for the first time.
He didn't do it in his first term.
A third term of Donald Trump violates the Constitution.
I believe it's the 22nd Amendment that says two terms only.
And so I have a problem with that.
I say, no, no.
But if you came to me and said, we are going to put back in place the machine state of the Democratic Party, who is going to lock up all of their political rivals on false criminal charges.
They've been violating the Constitution.
I say, no, don't do it.
Nope.
So I tell you this.
Those aren't our only options.
It's likely that 2028 is going to be J.D. Vance.
And maybe somebody else running.
The Democrats are trying to make it seem like it's going to be a Trump third term.
I reject that.
Now, my friends, currently the MAGA coalition is split, particularly over the war in Iran.
So we're going to be joined by Laura Loomer to talk about what's going on with this divide, her support for Donald Trump, what's going on with Iran.
And there's a frog in here.
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What?
Holy crap.
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What?
I'm not kidding.
I legit.
What?
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Bye.
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Yo, there's a frog in my studio somehow.
I saw this giant green thing jump and I freaked out.
There's a little frog on my floor.
This is the most exciting episode of the morning show I've ever done.
I gotta call.
I gotta bring Laura Loomer and then catch this frog before it dies.
I have no idea how it got in here.
This makes literally no sense.
We're in a closed studio inside a building, inside a building.
But there's a frog jumping around.
This is awesome!
Anyway, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
The interview will be coming up at 4 p.m. at youtube.com slash timcast and rumble.com slash timpool, and we'll see you all then.
For everybody else, I gotta catch this frog.
Where'd he go?
I'm getting worried.
I don't know where he went, but I'll find him when we wrap the show.
For now, we have this story from the Daily Beast.
Loomer threatens to snitch on conservatives criticizing Trump in raging MAGA civil war.
The MAGA conspiracy theorist declared herself the president's loyalty enforcer.
I gotta hand it to Laura Loomer.
She has done some of the, I mean, massive breaking stories in the Trump administration.
She's even uncovered people who have been leaking.
I think that's what would happen.
You know, we've had conversations here at Timcast quite a bit where we're actually like, she's got access and she's breaking big stories.
So I'm curious, her position on Trump, Israel, Iran, the war, as well as she recently put out a statement about Tucker Carlson and Qatar.
Now, she says Tucker received money from Qatar for an interview with their premier.
I don't know if that's correct.
It looks like a firm received the money to try and set the interview up.
Let's jump into the call with Laura, and I'm really interested in hearing your insights.
As a staunch Trump supporter, what is the current position for whether Trump wants to go to war or not?
So we're pulling this in now.
Let me see if I can get it all up and running.
And it is loading up, and Laura is here.
Can you hear me, Laura Loomer?
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Can you hear me?
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Yes, I can.
Welcome.
What's going on?
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Thanks.
Sorry.
My earpiece was malfunctioning there for a second.
Good to be with you.
Thanks for having me on.
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Thanks for joining.
There's a story in the Daily Beast saying that you're threatening to snitch on conservatives in this MAGA civil war over support for Trump in—I got a bug flying around—in what's going on with Israel and Iran.
I guess the first thing I want to ask you is, you know, as probably— Well, I've never advocated for troops on the ground in Iran.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
I've never advocated for war with Iran.
But what's really concerning to me, Tim, and what is confusing and perplexing, and is that the focus of this whole debate that's erupted online, is people's sudden displeasure with President Trump over a policy that has defined President Trump and his campaign since the inception of his campaign 10 years ago, exactly to the date two days ago or three days ago.
And so this isn't something that has caught people by surprise.
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President Trump has always stated since...
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
He has always been critical of the Iranian nuclear deal, JCPOA, under the Obama administration.
This is what really created the major conflict and the rift between Barack Hussein Obama and Donald Trump that led to Barack Hussein Obama mocking Donald Trump at the White House Correspondence Center, his constant attacks over Obama's handling of Iran that led to Donald Trump then deciding he was going to prove Obama wrong when he mocked him and his possible plans to run for president.
So the problem here is this is what happens when you have coalition building.
And this is why it doesn't ever work.
During the campaign, everybody was so gung-ho about inviting people like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK into the party, and they said it was going to be great and that we needed to expand the tent.
But the reality is, Tim, when you expand the tent, you have unrealistic expectations and you cater to people that have never really ideologically been aligned with the MAGA movement.
And then those people come in and they try to hijack the MAGA movement for what they want it to be, as opposed to supporting the man and the We're witnessing a hostile takeover of the Trump administration, in my opinion, by Individuals in the Democrat Party who are now trying to LARP as MAGA.
A lot of these people that are some of the biggest critics online, they came out of nowhere during the last campaign season.
They have very astroturf social media followings.
Some of these people may or may not be being paid by foreign governments like Qatar, like Iran.
We have seen that there are lobbyists that are now being paid.
One of these lobbyists is a group called Luminate Advisors that is being paid to orchestrate And I think it's important that we be honest about who's been here since the beginning,
what President Trump's message has been since the beginning, and who's financing this opposition to Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
It's interesting.
It's true.
There was a video – someone mentioned this clip where Trump said back in the 80s, like one of his first political statements was Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.
And it was in relation to the hostage crisis.
And there's like this compilation video someone made, 16 minutes of Trump saying Iran will never get a nuclear weapon.
He won't allow it.
And I wonder if there's a distinction though between people who are concerned about intervention in Iran and boots on the ground and then – A difference between obstructing what Trump is trying to do.
So I know you mentioned Tucker Carlson.
He's kind of been the biggest voice in opposition to getting involved in this conflict.
But I haven't seen everything he said in the matter other than he said Trump was complicit in this war, which is – it's kind of a bold thing to accuse Trump of doing when Trump was negotiating peace.
And even Tucker said that the Trump – actually, this is really fascinating.
Ted Cruz.
And he had another statement, I can't remember what it was with, that the Trump administration was negotiating in good faith with Iran and that the Trump administration has not, was not working on these strikes.
But then he also tweeted that Trump was complicit in the war.
That seems contradictory.
I'm curious your thoughts on that.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Well, I think that everything about Tucker Carlson is completely fake.
This is a guy who has been able to capitalize off of raw meat, right?
Raw red meat talking points to the MAGA base.
This is a guy who has been able to LARP as a Trump supporter and LARP as a mouthpiece for the so-called America First movement while he's been entirely against President Trump from the beginning.
And it's important for people to hold these mouthpieces accountable for their actual statement.
For example, in the aftermath of the stolen election in 2020, what did Tucker Carlson do, right?
He was texting with his producer, Alex Pfeiffer, who is now working inside the Trump administration, ironically, talking about how Donald Trump supporters are a bunch of cousin fuckers and they're a bunch of terrorists, right?
Calling, and you can pull this up.
I think that it's really important.
And it's one of the things that I actually admire about your show, Tim, is that you you do live fact checking and you pull it up on your screen and you let people see it in real time.
And so it's important for people to see that Tucker Carlson stated in his text messages to his own producer that he profusely hated Donald Trump.
He hates Trump.
And it wasn't until he was actually fired by Fox News that he was like, holy shit, Donald Trump could kill my career with the single truth social posts.
He's always been in support of President Trump.
He's always supported Donald Trump.
He loves Donald Trump, right?
That's a really stark contrast from then your text messages calling his supporters a bunch of cousin fuckers and terrorists and saying that Donald Trump should be held accountable for January 6th and saying that you hate Donald Trump.
And so there's a lot of a lot of this.
With the shifting media landscape, Tim, where a lot of people are finding that they're not really welcome in mainstream media anymore.
It's kind of a dying breed of journalism.
People are monetizing a lot more in independent media.
And if you feel that the MAGA base is going to turn on you or you feel that Donald Trump could torpedo your entire career with a single post.
And that's what Tucker Carlson is doing, in my opinion.
And there's many clips that you can show from Tucker Carlson years ago.
There was an article written in The Atlantic.
Not that The Atlantic is a trustworthy source, but they're quoting Tucker's own words in which he said, I believe that Iran needs to be annihilated.
I believe that we need to overthrow these mullahs.
I believe that the Ayatollah needs to be taken out.
He said these things.
You can go play the clips.
There was a 16-minute-long compilation that was being shared on X yesterday of all the times that Tucker Carlson has talked about how Iran is a threat to Western civilization.
Iran is an Islamic supremacist regime.
The Ayatollahs need to be taken out.
The Iranian people should implement their own Why is Tucker Carlson all of a sudden changing his views on this?
Why are people in MAGA, why did they cheer when Donald Trump had airstrikes conducted on Qasem Soleimani?
An Iranian terrorist.
Why did people in MAGA cheer when Donald Trump did airstrikes on al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, and they said, oh, it's so funny.
Donald Trump said he died like a dog.
This is so based.
I love Donald Trump.
How is that any different than Donald Trump talking about, you know, premeditated or preemptive airstrikes on Iran's nuclear facilities or potentially bunker busting the Ayatollah himself?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
This is interesting.
It seems like there's been a shift over the past several years among many prominent personalities who are saying that they were conservative Trump supporting.
There's a bit of a distinction, I suppose, but I largely agree with you.
I think Soleimani was in Iraq at the time.
Minor difference, I suppose.
When Trump said— What's the difference, though?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
I thought they're trying to say that an airstrike is a full-blown declaration of war.
So are they saying that we reignited war in Iraq?
Are they saying that we reignited war in Syria?
They say that Donald Trump is the president of no new wars.
So how can you say that Donald Trump is the president of no new wars, which I agree with, and say that the airstrikes on Qasem Soleimani and the airstrikes— The United States hasn't even gotten involved yet, right?
The United States hasn't even conducted airstrikes.
So they're trying to undermine Donald Trump.
Some people, like Dave Smith, went as far—and he's buddies with Tucker Carlson.
Tucker thinks he's amazing.
Dave Smith went as far as calling for Donald Trump to be impeached.
Impeached over what?
Donald Trump hasn't— Gotten involved in the conflict in Iran.
He has always been consistent in saying that we need to make sure that Iran does not have access to a nuclear weapon.
He has instructed Tom Homan and Kirstie Noem over at DHS to secure our borders and to work with Kash Patel, our new FBI director, and to work with Dan Bongino to identify or try to locate some of these two million gotaways that came in under Biden's administration, open borders, many of those two million individuals.
They are Iranian proxies.
They are Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah who want to hide in the shadows.
They deliberately took steps to not be detected so that they could get into our country and create their own sleeper cells, probably for the sake of being activated by the Ayatollahs, by the Iranian regime, and attacking the United States in another 9-11-style attack.
I just had Tom Homan on my show last week and he said it's his belief that majority of those individuals are Islamic jihadists.
And it's his greatest fear that keeps him awake at night is the fact that we have Hamas and Hezbollah terror cells in all 50 states in our country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I think a really great point you made, something I noticed, Trump hasn't even done anything yet, right?
We haven't even done anything.
We've seen some refueling tankers be repositioned across Europe.
I'm hoping that Trump is pulling the big ask.
It looks daunting to Iran.
Trump is making all these moves, but he's not done anything.
But I'm seeing all this attacks like Dave Smith calling for the impeachment of Trump.
Trump hasn't done anything.
Or Tucker saying that Trump's complicit in this war.
And I'm like, guys, I got liberals tweeting at me saying, did you vote for this, Tim?
And I'm like.
But Trump is not Israel.
Israel launched a strike.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Right, but let me focus on what you just said too.
Isn't it kind of ironic how, I'm pro-Israel, but I'm not asking for us to get involved in this conflict between Israel and Iran.
You can be pro-Israel and be America first.
This notion that you cannot support Israel or you have to be completely anti-Israel or foaming at the mouth over Jewish conspiracies, that's what you called it, Israel derangement syndrome.
There is serious Israel derangement syndrome that has taken over many mainstream elements within the GOP.
And it crosses foreign policy disciplines.
I'm not saying that you're an anti-Semite if you are critical of Israel.
You can be critical of Israel all you want.
You are not an anti-Semite if you are critical of AIPAC.
I've been critical of AIPAC.
I mean, honestly, AIPAC campaigned against me.
And I am a pro-Israel Jewish Republican woman, right?
So I don't understand why they campaigned against me, but they did.
So you can be against the ADL and not be an anti-Semite.
When you start cheering for Iran to nuke Israel, when you start cheering for Iran to win this conflict simply because you have an irrational hatred for Israel, that's where we start crossing over into the line of blatant Jew hatred.
And a lot of these people hate Jews.
They don't want to admit it.
They do.
I'm not I'm not saying everyone who's a critic of Israel is a Jew hater, but a lot of the people who have.
And they're trying to say that our country is going to be destroyed and Donald Trump's presidency is going to be destroyed because of Israel.
Well, if we're America first, why are If you're truly America first, shouldn't you be okay with Israel finishing the job in Gaza?
Shouldn't you be okay with Israel bombing Gaza?
Shouldn't you be okay with Israel striking Iran and perhaps assassinating the supreme leader of Iran?
Isn't that America first policy to let other countries handle their own political and global affairs?
It seems like these people really aren't America first, because if they were America first, they wouldn't be trying to dictate what Israel does.
Go let Israel bomb Gaza.
Go let Israel bomb Iran.
What does that have to do with the United States of America?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I agree.
I call them Israel first, rather derisively, because it seems like they're more concerned about the foreign policy pertaining to Israel than America's own borders or the terror cells that may have come across the southern border.
So people come to me, and with all due respect to these people, You know, whatever respect, maybe do.
You're allowed, like you said, criticize Israel all day, whatever.
You're allowed to do that.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Do it.
Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
My issue was they would criticize Israel when we're talking about Ukraine or we're talking about southern border.
And I said, if you care more about Israel's policies instead of our southern border and what Trump is doing and what the Democrats want to do, I think you firstly care about Israel.
That being said, I do want to bring up something.
You had a series of tweets about Tucker.
You mentioned Luminate.
But your tweets insinuate Tucker was paid himself $200,000.
It appears from the far of forms that Luminate was paid $200,000, not Tucker.
I don't know if you had a clarification on that or what.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
I think that everybody in conservative media, yourself included, knows how this process works, Tim.
And I think that we all are aware of the fact that there are lobbyists and there are influencer companies and there are lobbyists who serve as intermediaries between pundits, between politicians and social media influencers for the sake of either transferring funds or initiating interviews that are supposed to look kosher but are really, at the end of the day, not so kosher.
And so, regardless.
Tucker Carlson, whether you want to say that the money went to Tucker or not, we haven't seen any of their bank statements.
Why don't they open up their accounts?
Why don't they show us who paid for Tucker Carlson's hotel rooms and his travel for him and his staff to Qatar?
because somebody paid for it.
And if you look at the contract that I uncovered from Luminate, which is available So the Luminate representative was clearly present for all of the interviews.
They list their point of contact as Tucker Carlson himself.
They don't list Neil Patel of Tucker Carlson Network.
They don't list any of Tucker Carlson's staff or his producers or some media affairs person.
They actually list Tucker Carlson himself as the point of contact between the lobbyist and the prime minister of Qatar, Al-Tani, who wanted this interview for the sake of placing Qatari propaganda on Tucker Carlson's show as it related to discussing war with Iran and how Qatar is not involved or they're trying to, um, We already know that Qatar is one of the biggest sponsors of Islamic terrorism in the world.
This is why I was so outspoken when President Trump went to Qatar.
And some people were like, oh, why are you so outspoken about this?
Because we need to be honest about what these countries are doing.
They shouldn't just be allowed to wine and dine everybody and, you know, show up with Rolexes and show up with planes and, you know, write checks and sponsor galas and throw their Arab money around.
And then everybody turn a blind eye to the fact that they are literally housing the leaders of Hamas in Doha, where they let them live in luxurious penthouses and they let them go on shopping sprees and evade.
They're literally hiding out in Qatar to protect these people from being killed by Mossad or killed by the IDF.
That's why they allow them to have a safe haven in Qatar.
Those people are killing Americans.
There's a reason why Donald Trump killed Qasem Soleimani.
Qasem Soleimani murdered U.S. soldiers.
He murdered U.S. military members.
And Qatar finances those same Iranian proxies and Hamas and Hezbollah, and they are involved in the same terrorist activities that the Iranian regime is involved in, in not just attacking Israel, but also attacking Western civilization and killing Americans.
The Muslim Brotherhood, which should be designated as a terrorist organization.
In fact, the Muslim Brotherhood is designated as a terrorist organization in places like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates.
Now, don't you think that we should be taking the advice, heeding the advice of these Muslims who President Trump is meeting with?
They tell us that somebody is a terrorist.
That is why the Saudis cut off relations with Qatar for such a long time, because they are funding Hamas.
They are funding Hezbollah and they are funding the Muslim Brotherhood, which is designated as a terrorist organization in many countries, including Jordan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Well, I want to ask you, though, all of these personalities that seem to have shifted in the past couple of years towards an Israel critical view, it seemed.
You mentioned that there's this Luminate.
They're making points of contact with Tucker.
They're connecting these interests.
They're making these things happen.
Do you think there's a concerted effort from foreign influences to get conservatives to be anti-Israel or—?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely.
We already know that China gets a lot of their oil from Iran.
Xi Jinping just said that he's going to be sending military equipment to Iran.
He's already expressed that he's very anti-Israel.
You want to take a guess as to who the two largest donors of foreign money to American universities and institutions over the last four years in our country have been?
Just take a guess.
The two countries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I'd say China?
Qatar?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
China.
China and Qatar.
So between 2021 and 2024, China and Qatar, okay?
And there's some other countries, but the bulk of these funds have come from China and Qatar.
$29 billion in foreign money has made its way into American institutions and mostly American universities between 2021 and 2024.
That's foreign money.
Most of that money coming from Qatar and China.
And so...
Why do we see all of these pro-Palestinian, and it's not just pro-Palestinian, it's pro-Hamas, it's pro-Islamic jihad.
Okay, they have found that...
They're wearing Al-Quds flags.
They're wearing Hamas bandanas.
They're waving Hezbollah flags.
I was physically assaulted on the streets of New York City when I was reporting on the Columbia protests by a woman who was wearing a Hamas bandana while carrying a Hezbollah flag.
She shoved the flag in my face.
She tried to poke my eyeball out with a Hezbollah flag.
And so the reality is, is that a lot of the destabilization in our country and a lot of You're so amazing.
Let's roll out the camels and the horses and throw this whole big spectacle together for you and your staff.
And, oh, we're going to push you up in the St. Regis.
It's a five-star hotel.
We're going to treat you like a king.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what they say and what they do.
Because what people need to understand is that in Islam, there's this concept of permissible lying.
We know that Qatar is funding the Muslim Brotherhood.
They're funding all of the jihadist organizations here in America that are assaulting Jewish students on campus.
It's not just Jews either.
This is not a Jewish issue.
This is an issue of Western civilization.
And if the Christians and the Christian nationalists and the Catholics think that this is like a case of, you know, the crocodile.
You are sorely mistaken.
What starts with the Jews doesn't end with the Jews.
And people need to stop framing this issue of Islamic subversion and Islamic infiltration of our country and the use of Islamic and Chinese money.
We know that the Iranians and the Chinese are working together to undermine the Trump administration.
This is a concerted effort to topple Western civilization.
So you can post your little edgy tweets about how, oh, it's Hasbara, right?
Let's deport the Jews to Israel.
You can post all that stuff all you want, but at the end of the day, you're going to find yourself getting on your knees and some Muslim is going to have a gun to your head and they're going to say convert or die.
And you're just going to have to look back and admit that that you I'm not saying you, but the people that are engaged in this propaganda and these foreign influence campaigns played a role in the end of civilization, played a role in their own demise.
I think that they're using lobbyist groups and cutouts.
I mean, look, you know, there's a lot of ways to funnel money to somebody, okay, to have it off the books.
You could have intermediaries who themselves are paid by foreign governments, and then they themselves can pay people through shell companies.
They can pay them through LLCs.
They can pay them through crypto.
We already know the department, and I'm not anti-crypto, but we do know that a lot of people A lot of these Islamic regimes are using crypto to funnel money to social media influencers.
The DOJ has already identified this.
And it's not just Islamic countries, too.
It's Russia.
There's all types of countries that are involved.
And I know you found yourself at the center of stories attacking you, accusing you of taking foreign money.
And so you know, right?
And I'm not attacking you.
I'm just saying you know.
Right, from the attacks that you yourself were subjected to, that there are foreign influence campaigns that either are paying certain people or they're trying to target certain conservatives to either get them to be mouthpieces under the guise of news, under the guise of podcasting, under the guise of communication.
But it's a lot more sinister than that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
You know, I'll tell you something.
One of the tricks they use on YouTube when you run ads, I've been talking to people this for a long time.
You can choose to run ads on a targeted channel.
So you can go to Google Ads and you can say, I want to put $10,000 in ad spend on this one channel only.
And what that means is you're outbidding all the other advertisers to appear on that channel.
You're effectively giving that money to that channel's operator.
So when we talk about foreign influence operations, they usually have these circuitous stories.
The one involving me, for instance, I would never personally accept money.
My business would never accept money.
And I wouldn't go anywhere near money that was intended to impugn my honor or manipulate my opinions in any way.
That being said, what these countries can do and lobbying groups can do is they can find someone.
Let's say what interests me about this is the sudden change over the past few years of opinion.
On these issues.
What happens is, I've been talking about this for a while.
There are some creators who I will just not name.
I don't want to start drama.
I want to explain the issue.
They'll talk about, let's say, cooking.
It's a kitchen cooking show.
But then they end up making one video about Israel-Palestine because it's prominent in the news.
And then they get a million views.
And they say, wow.
The next thing you know, they make another video about it.
A month later, the only thing they're doing is talking about Israel, and they're usually critical of it.
What happens is...
But that's the overt, right?
So some people do go.
But what I'm saying is there's this subversive element where I've noticed channels on YouTube where they used to be about fitness and health.
But now all they talk about is why Israel is bad because they're making money doing it.
They said, I was getting 10,000 views on my sandwich videos, but I get 50,000 if I talk about Israel.
And it's simple enough for any country to go onto Google and just say, I want to give them money for these specific videos.
And that you're basically – these people don't realize what's happening, but that's a really easy way to run these influence operations.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Well, another another way for them to run these influence operations, too, is to subscribe to people on X. And look, I think that I think that Elon Musk and X should take into account the fact that there's a lot of people and they did address this.
They had a lot of botting activity out of India, right, where people were trying to gain the system on monetization.
And they were creating all these reply bots so that they could make money off of the X revenue system.
But there's also a lot of actual terrorist activity where you have jihadists that are subscribing to accounts.
People like Jackson Hinkle, for example, who went from having a couple hundred thousand followers to having over three million followers online.
And most of his comments are from Iranian supporters of the Houthis, supporters of Hezbollah, supporters of Hamas.
He's literally living in Moscow, Russia, where he is lobbying, I'm told, for for for Russia.
as a United States citizens, speaking at Houthi rally, speaking at Nasrallah's funeral, openly tweeting his support of Xi Jinping, tweeting his support of Nicolas Maduro.
Stuff like that is happening, too, where a lot of people are able to funnel money through subscriptions, whether it's, you know, on X or whether it's any other subscription based platform, because.
What's to say, right?
There's just some random account that wants to subscribe to you.
Well, what's stopping them from subscribing?
What's stopping them from subscribing to you for seven a month or however much your monthly amount is?
You can set it to whatever you want to be.
Mine is set at $7 a month, but if I wanted to, I could set it for $100 a month or $1,000 a month, right?
What about some of these people that have over 1,000 subscribers and they're setting theirs at $100 a month?
That money all adds up over time.
have multiple accounts and you're trying to evade the terms of service, that's another way that people are getting funded by foreign money and evading FARA.
And so just because it's not listed in FARA or just because a lobbying firm is listed as the main receiver of the funds doesn't mean that The person that has to abide by FARA is the person that is receiving the money directly from the foreign source.
They could take that money and put it into an LLC and transfer it to 50 different influencers or one influencer.
And that's what people need to understand.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I think you bring up a really great point about just foreign influence in general on any of these issues.
And so when people bring up the issue of what's going with Israel-Iran, I think...
But we are out of time.
Where can people find you if they want to watch more?
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
So people can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and on X at Loomer Unleashed.
And then every Tuesday and Thursday, I have a show on Rumble called Loomer Unleashed, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
You can subscribe to my channel.
I'll be going live tonight and discussing this extensively as well.
And if you're interested in seeing how President Trump has been consistent on the issue of Iran, we're going to be going through about 100 examples on my show tonight.
And we're going to be showing all the receipts in case you find yourself to be a victim of some of this foreign influence.
So I encourage you all to tune in tonight, 9 p.m. Eastern, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
Thanks for having me on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Thanks for joining me.
We'll see you next time.
laura loomer ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Take care.
unidentified
All right, let's see.
Oh, wrong one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
There we go.
That was Laura Loomer.
And, you know, it's interesting.
She's obviously pro-Trump more than anything else.
She, you know, I looked into the Tucker Carlson thing and it does not look, and I brought this up several times.
That he got paid by this.
It is interesting, however, if he is coordinating directly with a lobbying firm, registered under Farah, that is intended, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It makes me question.
There are a lot of people that seemingly have recently adopted a, I don't know the right way to put it, strong anti-Israel stance in a short amount of time.
Far be it from me to tell you about people's intent or what they know and what they don't know.
It could just be that people learned things and they said, you know what, I've changed my opinion on this and I can respect that.
I think in general the idea of influence operations is broad and it's more than just this one issue.
But we are out of time.
And there's a frog.
There's a frog right over there.
It's climbing on the walls.
I don't know how it got in this building.
I have questions.
We're going to get this party moving along.
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So we will send that raid over to Russell.
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