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June 9, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Trump Readies INSURRECTION ACT As Democrats DECLARE WAR Over LA Riots, Marines Prep To DEPLOY
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It is not just an insurrection in Los Angeles.
It is sedition and it is invasion.
The riots we saw over this past weekend are continuing into today.
They expect to have a large organizational phone call later tonight about protests against Donald Trump.
As for the riots specifically in LA, they expect to continue them tonight.
And these are the rioters, I'm saying.
And I'll explain to you very quickly, just to kick things off, why it's all of the things I described.
An insurrection.
People in California rising up against the government and law enforcement refusing to intervene.
This qualifies as an insurrection under the Insurrection Act.
You have sedition.
American citizens actively subverting the rule of law and obstructing the government from carrying out lawful duties to aid and abet foreign invaders.
And why it's an invasion?
Well, That's what it was called in the olden days, my friends, seeking treasure.
Donald Trump has seized control of the California National Guard.
They've been deployed.
Gavin Newsom is outraged, demanding Trump return control of the National Guard to him.
Trump says the Insurrection Act is not off the table and the Marines are being prepped to deploy if need be.
Even Pete Hegseth says we can do it.
The Democrats are defiant, saying this shouldn't be happening.
I shouldn't be arresting people.
Invaders, non-citizens, criminal aliens should be allowed to remain.
And that's where we get into the heavy insurrection area.
Now, of course, there's questions about where something like this goes.
We don't know for sure.
It could be a dramatic escalation.
It could be that nothing happens.
It could be a summer of love.
Democrats could rally against Donald Trump over this and try and muster up a win in the midterms and maybe in 2028, but it's hard to say for sure.
Certainly on the extreme ends of these things, we have.
Trump fails to deport anybody.
Democrats are able to muster up their additional 20 or so congressional seats and electoral college votes.
To subvert the will of the American people and never lose an election again.
Come 2028, they take the presidency, having won the midterms, impeaching Donald Trump.
Not that he'd be convicted.
And then the 2030 census comes up.
All of these non-citizens brought in by Joe Biden are now counted in the census.
And California, Illinois, New York, Oregon, Washington, they get a mass bolstering of the congressional seats, securing their cheating.
That's right.
It's cheating when you get extra electoral college votes because you let in illegal immigrants.
The other extreme end, of course, would be that Donald Trump succeeds, deports everybody, and Democrats never win again.
And then obviously there's the substantially less likely, but still on the table, Democrats refuse to lose.
Democratic governors rise up against Donald Trump.
Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, deploying the military against these invasive and seditious forces.
And then the Democratic governors, former coalition, put together their National Guards to defy the federal government.
The National Guard leadership then has to make a decision, your home state or the country.
And I think you know my point with that one.
Now, I don't know what's going to happen.
I think rioting throughout the summer is just the most likely.
I don't know that it extends beyond what we see already.
The riots will be bad.
Donald Trump will continue to use all of these tools in his arsenal to make sure these mass deportations happen.
But I'm not sure enough deportations will happen.
And with the resistance, it's going to obstruct Trump's ability to do so.
I think we're looking at some kind of middle-of-the-road scenario where Trump will be successful to some regard.
But I don't know who wins in the end.
It's hard to say for sure.
It's a question I've asked many liberals who believe this couldn't have happened, despite the fact that a year ago we all predicted it.
I asked several liberals, do you think Trump will use the military to enforce mass deportations?
They said yes.
Do you think Democrats will let it happen?
Some said yes.
Some said no.
Well, let's take a look at the current state of affairs, the response from the Democratic Party, and the Mexican president basically sanctioning what we are seeing.
This is an invasion.
Make no mistake.
You have millions of non-citizens coming from various Central American countries, some of which are coming from Mexico.
The Mexican president says these people here in the United States illegally are not criminals and should not be stopped.
That is the sanctioning of the Mexican government for the criminal activities of non-citizens entering our country, to which the U.S. government is trying to expel.
And they're flying the Mexican flag.
So I don't know what you want to call it.
But I'll call it that.
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Let's get into the first story here, breaking down the Insurrection Act from Fox LA.
Insurrection Act is not off the table for LA, Trump says.
President Donald Trump says he won't rule out invoking the Insurrection Act as violent protests against federal immigration officers continue in LA for a third day.
National Guard troops clashed with protesters Sunday, firing tear gas at crowds.
As protesters moved on the freeways surrounding downtown and blocked traffic, police said two LAPD officers were injured if they were hit by motorcyclists who tried to breach a skirmish line.
This is crazy.
Let me show you some imagery.
The famous image that has been circulating.
This is an invasion, okay?
And I'll tell you where it gets real difficult.
This man, wearing a mask, riding a dirt bike.
Amid fires in L.A. and waving the Mexican flag.
Another video of a man burning the American flag while the group waves the Mexican flag and he says, that is not my flag.
My flag is the Mexican flag.
You know what the biggest problem with birthright citizenship is?
The biggest problem?
Now you can say it's anchor babies.
You can say it's, you know, exploitation.
Whatever you want to say.
I'll tell you.
It's that people who were born here are not inherently allegiant to this country.
That includes people whose parents are American, whose grandparents are American.
But the issue with this is, if large amounts of individuals, millions of people come into this country over the span of a few years, and they have kids, or even going back 20 years, these people, they still go home for vacation.
They still fly their home flag.
They raise their children to be adherent to that nation.
This is true of any country throughout all of human history.
This is how occupation works.
A foreign military, a foreign group enters your country.
They're adherent to a different set of moral worldviews or ideologies or national sovereignty.
They fly those flags and over a long enough period of time, you're gone.
These young men, many of whom are American citizens, by the way.
We're raised in a state that they were told was property of Mexico, was land of Mexico before the Mexican-American War.
They hate America.
They hate American politics.
They have been flying Mexican flags for years.
And now they say it.
I said it back then, too.
The issue right now is that Joe Biden has allowed in 10 million non-citizens from various countries, not all from Mexico, from Central America, some from Africa, some from China, Iran, Afghanistan.
And when ICE and Donald Trump, under the will of the American people through the popular vote, with immigration being the second most prominent issue, seek to enforce the law, they are obstructed by individuals, some of whom were born here, granted American citizenship by birthright, but who oppose the federal government's effort to maintain its national sovereignty and the will of the people.
Now just think about it.
Red and blue.
Left or right, whatever you want to call it.
If you have a growing faction of individuals that keep allowing non-citizens to come in and welcome their worldview into their voting bloc, the voting bloc increasingly becomes more supportive of open borders so that other people can come in.
The nails you often use are quite simple.
You and your roommate live in a house.
Every Friday you vote for what's for lunch.
And it's a back and forth because there's two of you.
One day you come in, there's a guy sleeping on your couch, and you're like, yo, what's with this guy on my couch?
Let's just say in this scenario your name is Ronald.
And your roommate says, Ron, that's my buddy.
He's got nowhere to go.
I'm letting him sleep on the couch.
And you argue over it, and he says, let's make a deal.
You can pick lunch for the next month, but just let my buddy crash here for now.
And he goes, okay, that's a good deal.
A month goes by, and the dude's still there.
Next thing you know, you come to the living room, there's a second guy in there sleeping on the other couch.
And you're like, what's this?
It's like, it was my buddy.
And you say, Ron, look, we got to cut a deal.
We got to cut a deal.
Here's what happened.
Say, you know what?
No, I'm putting my foot down.
Okay?
I'm not going to allow your friends to stay here anymore.
Well, now couch guy number one and your roommate say, let's put it to a vote.
All in favor of letting our new friend sleep on the couch.
They both raise their hand.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼
He doesn't get a vote.
He doesn't live here.
Actually, after a month, he does.
He's now a legal resident of the house.
You can't evict him.
And he gets to say.
So, two against one.
Our friend can stay.
Yeah, that's what happened in this country.
It seems quite simple.
The people who are born here but whose parents still vacation and have family in other countries, I'm not just saying just Mexico, they're going to vote in favor of sending resources and allowing their family members to come in.
Over a long enough time, this will erode and break down the barriers that make America a sovereign nation.
Now, a lot of migrants who come here legally integrate, and that's fantastic.
But those that come in illegally are less likely to.
Now we have this issue bubbling up, where people are flying foreign flags in our country.
The political news, let's carry it on.
From the Washington Post, Trump charts new territory in bypassing Newsom to deploy National Guard.
Legal experts question the president's response to unrest in L.A. Well, why aren't Democrats stopping the riots?
Because this is the policy of California.
This is the policy of the Democratic Party.
This is what I would refer to as privateers.
We've seen this take many forms, but it's a common tactic used throughout all wars.
Maybe not every single war, but in modern warfare especially.
Let's take a look at, as I've mentioned before, the colonial era.
You had privateers and corsairs.
The British crown would say, hey, the French, we don't like them.
Go and attack them, but don't fly our flag.
They would sanction and often supply privateers and tell them piracy was okay so long it was the French you were attacking.
So if they saw a ship on the high seas flying a French flag, they'd attack.
Capture, kill, seize.
When word eventually got to France like the ships are disappearing, you know, we found the flotsam.
It looks like it was pirates.
It looks British.
The French would send an emissary to the British crown and say, you are attacking us.
They'd say, those are simply pirates.
Heavens me, we don't sanction that.
That's not us.
That's what California is doing right now.
We see it today in modern warfare with hacker groups.
A hacker group will operate in...
But we know they're sanctioned and they're not going to face obstruction because they're attacking the enemies of that country.
California is standing down.
The reason why they don't want the National Guard deployed, the reason why the police aren't doing anything, they want illegal immigrants in the state.
They're a sanctuary state.
They do this so they can cheat elections.
That's the harsh reality.
For the post-millennial, 500 active-duty Marines are prepared to deploy to L.A. Now, I'll tell you why this is insurrection.
Because people are flying foreign flags.
You may say, Tim, posse comitatus.
You cannot use the military to enforce local laws.
I win.
And my response is, indeed.
But when we have non-citizens and people flying foreign flags, that is a function of military enforcement to deal with.
Now, if you want to argue posse comitatus, because you're saying that the Army, the Marines, the Air Force, whatever, the Navy, can't arrest someone for jaywalking, I'll say, agreed.
And the argument they're going to make is, these are just protests.
They're protests.
No, it's seditionist, insurrectionist, and invasive attacks and riots.
So, is everybody who's rioting a citizen?
Or, is it that those that are rioting are working at the behest of a foreign entity?
Indeed, that's the case.
In which case, Trump invoking the Insurrection Act is exactly what the law is for.
The post-millennial reports.
CNN reported that the U.S. Northern Command has said about 500 U.S. Marines were prepped to deploy to L.A. to quell the riots that have broken out there for three straight days.
On Sunday, planned protests, the federal courthouse turned to riots after the protesters were moved away from the area.
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I also want to ask you about some breaking news that we're just getting in.
This is brand new into our newsroom, that the U.S. Northern Command is saying that approximately 500 active-duty Marines are, quote, prepared to deploy, in their words, as unrest in Los Angeles continues.
This is after, of course, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, had mentioned this.
Yeah.
Is that necessary at this point?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
No.
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I'm going to be—I mean, not operationally, it's not necessary.
There may be other reasons for it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I want to just put this— We don't know that we need the Marines just yet, and I think that's fair across the board to say.
Trump has deployed around 2,000 National Guard to Los Angeles after riots erupted.
Pete Hegseth said that if necessary, he could deploy Marines.
We've got a problem.
We've got a political problem.
There's no answer.
There's no easy answer.
I ask it to you, and you can comment.
Let me know what you think.
Join in the fun.
Democrat governors band together to condemn Trump's deployment of National Guard in California.
They're flying foreign flags.
And Democrat governors are on the side of non-citizens.
You have this.
Let's roll, baby.
From LiveMint.com, migrants are not criminals.
Mexico President Claudia Scheinbaum criticizes L.A. raids.
This crossed the line.
Now we're getting serious.
Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum defended migrants living in Los Angeles and claimed that at least 35 Mexicans had been detained in the recent raids carried out by immigration officers of the Trump administration.
The arrests made in L.A. in the immigration raids triggered a wave of protests in the region, which has even led to the deployment of the U.S. National Guard.
Honest people who went to the U.S. to seek a better life for themselves and support their families.
They are not criminals.
They are good men and women.
Indeed.
Scheinbaum also stated that multiple Mexicans were arrested in the ongoing immigration raids.
The count, as suggested by her, currently stands at 35. During her moving speech, she asked everyone to stand by the arrested Mexicans.
And there it is.
As it's been interpreted, many have said that she has called for the rioting.
You cannot, you should not allow a foreign leader to defend these invaders and then call on those in this country to defend them.
We are entering very serious territory here.
These are not citizens.
She even said these are Mexicans who are in the United States.
Immigrations.
Is arresting and deporting individuals who are not here legally.
That's normal sovereignty.
This is not special.
It's not unique.
Countries remove people who enter illegally.
I don't care if you're France, Japan, or Burundi.
You enter the country illegally, you're subject to removal.
That is defense of a sovereign nation.
What do you do when your neighboring country tells people in your country to stand by and defend people who have entered illegally that you are seeking to enforce against?
This is encouragement of invasion.
But they're seeking a better life.
Of course they are!
Why else would anyone invade any other country?
Did the Vikings seek a better life when they ransacked, raped, and pillaged in the British Isles?
Of course they did!
I'm not suggesting the Mexicans coming to this country are burning buildings down, although some in the riots apparently are.
The overwhelming majority are trying to get jobs.
But this is illegal.
And this country seeks to defend its borders.
From the most ridiculous of invasions, the argument has always been a better life.
For what other reason?
When religious fanatics invade another country, they say it's because these poor people are being exposed to a false god and we can give them a better life.
They should be adhering to us.
The world leaders don't come out and say, like, we want to make their lives worse.
Sometimes, you know, don't get me wrong, I'm saying it's a tendency.
It's a tendency.
The Vikings raid the British Isles.
They rape and pillage so they can make their lives better.
They steal the women and they go back and guess what?
They did live better lives.
They got free stuff.
Stealing chickens and young women.
Stealing treasure.
When people come into this country displacing our workforce and many of them committing crimes, not all of them, we as a nation have to protect our interests.
This is where we get into very serious insurrectionist territory.
And then what happens when Democrat governors defend them?
This is where it gets truly scary.
The Bolsonaro reports.
A coalition of Democratic governors did a joint statement Sunday condemning Trump's decision to deploy the California National Guard without Newsom's consent, calling it an alarming abuse of power.
In fact, it's not.
They said it undermines both state and public trust.
No, it doesn't.
Trump would not.
Here's the question.
Does Trump have the legal authority to take command of the National Guard of a state?
Yes.
Otherwise, it wouldn't have happened.
If he didn't have that authority, the national government said no.
I do believe we are entering the possibility of, man, I don't know how to describe it.
You know, Donald Trump occupying state governments, federal law enforcement, shutting down local law enforcement.
What would you call it?
Occupation, I suppose?
In California.
I mean, I suppose you can argue it's happening.
The sheriff says he's not going to enforce these laws.
The police are standing down.
So Trump sends in the National Guard to stop this.
ICE and the feds are going in to enforce federal law.
If Democratic governors say we will not enforce the law and then Trump has to send in National Guard or Marines and declare an insurrection, that's where things get real crazy.
The occupation of Democratic states because they're refusing to enforce the law.
And then at what point do we actually intervene at the federal level in their state governance?
I mean, like, beyond law enforcement.
Twenty-two Democratic governors have co-signed a statement amid escalating violence.
Let's pull this up.
Here's their statement.
Statement from the Democratic governors on Trump's use of the California National Guard.
And it includes a big list.
I'm not going to read all their names.
President Trump's...
Governors are the commanders in chief of their National Guard and the federal government activating them in their own borders without consulting or working with their state's governor is ineffective and dangerous.
Further threatening to send the U.S. Marines into American neighborhoods undermines the mission of our service members, erodes public trust, and shows the Trump administration does not trust local law enforcement.
Well, they're refusing to enforce the law.
What would one do?
It's important we respect the executive authority of our country's governors to manage their national guards.
And we stand with Governor Newsom, who has made it clear that violence is unacceptable and that local authorities should be able to do their jobs at the chaos of this federal interference and intimidation.
My friends, what we are getting.
This is.
This is not the Democrats concerned about violence.
This is not.
The Democrats concerned about local law enforcement being subverted.
This is Democrats subterfuge.
52 congressional seats and electoral college votes come from California because they're a sanctuary state with a massive illegal immigrant population.
Joe Biden allowed in 10.5 million illegal immigrants into this country.
If Trump does not deport them before the 2030 census, Democrats will bolster their vote count in Congress illicitly and their vote count in the Electoral College, and they'll never lose again.
Well, to be fair, they'll lose to communist Republicans who shift leftward in a desperate, desperate attempt to try and muster up votes.
You know, I will say I blame Ronald Reagan and his Amnesty Act from 1986.
This is where it all begins.
He turned California into a permanent blue state.
All of the immigration studies and scholars show this, and it's simple logic.
If your parents are illegal immigrants and you are given your birthright citizenship or amnesty, when it comes to a vote, what are you voting for?
Of course you're voting for your parents.
That's your interest.
It is not out of the question.
Absurd or ridiculous to think an individual will always vote for what benefits them.
That's the point of voting.
What's in your interest?
If the United States continues down the path of allowing for the interest of foreigners in this country, and I mean actual foreigners, I'm not talking about people who have been born here, you will get an erosion.
That's why you need integration and controlled immigration.
Immigration is great.
Of course, the media is doing, and they left, is they call illegal immigrants migrants.
They said they're the same thing.
They're not.
Even then, you have a challenge if you have too much blanket migration.
It's just stupidly simple.
Okay, I'm going to be honest with you guys.
Let's just simplify to the stupidest degree.
If you've got 10 people from Italy, guess what they're having for dinner?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Italian food.
It's a big Italian family, and they made a bunch of linguine with lots of sauce, parmesan sprinkled on top, maybe some mozzarella.
Sounds great.
What do you think happens if you bring in 10 Mexicans?
Are they going to all stand around and vote for Italian food?
They're going to want to have Mexican food.
They're going to want to have some mole sauce, which is also equally delicious.
Now, hey, hey, you know what?
I like both.
I love Italian food.
I like gnocchi and I like Mexican food.
But if you're an Italian family and one day they bring in 30, let's say, Ethiopians.
When you vote for lunch, you're not getting Italian food.
You're going to get Ethiopian food.
It's good food, but it's not what you want.
That's the point.
People will always vote for their interests.
And what's happening now is people who have fealty, who have allegiance to a foreign nation and non-citizens, Firebombing vehicles and attacking federal law enforcement.
You have yourselves an insurrection.
What's the natural conclusion?
Either Trump mass deports everybody and then Republicans win and Democrats are forced to the middle, which may be the case.
Democrats win.
Trump fails to deport anybody.
The census comes around and then Democrats win every election then because they get extra votes.
Maybe something worse.
Trump does begin mass deportations, refusing to give up factions of individuals who are allegiant to foreign countries or who are ideologically possessed fight back.
It was crazy for me to see videos of not just police being attacked.
I saw a video of a man punching several cops in the face.
I've never seen that before.
I'm not kidding.
I have seen people fight with cops.
I have seen people de-arrest.
I've never seen a man charge and start punching cops in the face during these riots.
It is escalating.
And the National Guard has been deployed.
If someone chooses to drive it to the next escalation, that's when things get scary.
Now, right now, my friends, we're going to be joined by Julio Rosas, who's been on the ground reporting.
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For everybody else, let's talk about where this is going.
We've got here in America, we don't do kings, a call for a massive escalation of the conflict.
We've got tweets saying ice out of San Antonio.
We've got ice out of NYC.
These protests are being planned for right now.
They are preparing to launch mass riots like we saw in L.A. across this country, giving people instruction.
And then we have.
On the 14th of June, the No Kings protest.
Here's a question for you.
In this map for No Kings, it's an anti-Trump, anti-American protest.
How do they organize all these?
All of these different rallies.
Now, first, what I'll say is, many of these rallies, even in Toronto, there's no way it's Toronto.
It is.
Wow, that's Canada.
They're not really organizing these protests.
They're telling you they're planning on doing it, and they've decided on a location for where it should start.
They're hoping that if people just see this, they'll choose to show up.
But who is supplying these organizations the resources to launch such a coordinated effort?
Because I've got to tell you this.
We do events here at Timcast.
It is not easy to organize one, let alone six official events.
And 1,000-plus ancillary events.
This takes mass resources.
Oh, it's all over Canada.
Wow, Canada's got a ton, actually.
Oh, I'm sorry, that's just Maine.
But there are a bunch in Canada.
Oh, is it just Maine?
Oh, my bad.
I thought that was New Brunswick.
You got a couple in Canada.
Sure, fine.
Oh, here's on the border.
How fun.
International Falls, Minnesota.
This is being prepared.
This is being organized.
So we're going to be joined, my friends.
By Julio Rosas.
He's been on the ground actually reporting on his riots in Los Angeles.
Let's bring him in now.
See if we can get all of this rolling.
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I believe Julio is, uh, Can you hear me?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I can hear you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Hey, so you're currently on the ground at the LA riots.
You're in a hotel or something, right?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, this isn't it.
But yeah, man, I got in yesterday.
I was actually, funny enough, I was on vacation in Mexico trying to get in some R&R before riot season truly kicked off.
But I guess I'm a little rusty given that it's been four years since the last true riot I fully covered.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Do you want to say where in Mexico you were?
Or were you close to L.A.?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
No, it wasn't like Mexico City to where I could just fly directly.
It was a whole process.
But no, it's just interesting because obviously these riots are happening in part because they cracked on immigration.
And it's just funny seeing Mexican flags in Los Angeles being waved over burning cars.
But what I always like to say is you couldn't pull that in Mexico City.
I mean, could you imagine?
If a bunch of Americans showed up and were in the main plaza burning cars and waving American flags, the Mexican government would have cracked down on that.
It's so hard.
People would be whining about the Geneva Conventions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I'm pretty sure Mexicans would crack down on you.
Just people who live there would probably come up and not tolerate that.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
No, no.
They actually, I mean, for all of its faults, Mexicans in Mexico have a lot of pride.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Well, so this has been, it was massive.
I mean, this is several days long.
They're saying there's going to be more riots tonight.
They're planning other cities to have big riots.
There's talk of massive protests organized across the country for, I believe, like a week from now.
I'm curious.
We've seen a lot of these videos of people waving Mexican flags, but who are these people?
Are they, I mean, are you able to discern whether or not these people are actually Mexican nationals or are they just Americans support Mexico?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I think, I mean, it's hard to say, but I just kind of knowing the culture a little bit more.
I think a lot of it is just like people.
Or, you know, maybe a grandfather.
In particular, maybe their immediate family member is illegal.
I mean, it is this weird thing, and I don't want to get too much into the Like I am, right?
I was born here, raised here.
But obviously we took different paths, right?
Because there's no way I'm going to go riot and wave a Mexican flag in the city.
I mean, the United States is my country.
But to them, they have this attachment because of this family member, let's say.
And they think, well, we do all this stuff.
It's racism, white supremacy, all this stuff.
Colonialism, Los Angeles was part of Mexico at one point.
And so for them, it's basically their version of return, right?
Return to tradition, return to how things were, which is funny because they can have that national pride, even though they're not necessarily, like I said, from Mexico directly.
It is, just speaking for myself, it is kind of an interesting and at times a weird dynamic, but you have to choose.
You have to choose.
And for me, and speaking for myself, yes, obviously I know my name, I know what I look like, but the United States is my country.
I like Mexico.
Like I said, I was just there on vacation.
There's a lot of things I like about it, but my loyalty and the country that I want to do.
The best number for the first is the United States, and obviously I want Mexico to succeed as well because it's better for both of us.
But that's why it's frustrating to see because even talking to the Mexicans in Mexico saying, hey, I'm going to go to Los Angeles to cover this, a lot of them were actually saying, yeah, we understand why Trump wants to deport people.
He has to do what's best for his country.
He's not as unpopular as you might think in Mexico, although obviously I would say the majority is, but it's not an overwhelming majority I would hazard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I think I was actually just expressing similarly.
When you have amnesty, when you allow people to come here illegally, they'll have kids.
Those kids are born in California.
They are told—a lot of them are told these leftist ideologies.
They blame white people for everything.
They're told, you know, this used to be Mexico until it was stolen from us in a war.
We were routed.
They invaded.
And it's actually our land.
You grow up with this.
You grow up with Mexican flags in your house.
You grow up being told of your family's heritage in Mexico.
You go vacation to see your grandparents in Mexico.
And then Donald Trump comes in and says, illegal immigrants can't be here.
And what does that mean?
It could be your parents.
It could be your cousin.
It could be your next-door neighbor.
Trump is correct.
This is America with American borders.
But for the individual interests of these people who are Americans, they're thinking, I don't know or care.
I want what's best for me and my family, and my family are not Americans, so I'm not going to let you do this.
You end up seeing them flying American flags.
Now, the question, I guess, is at what point is this insurrection and invasion?
And how do you deal with it?
I mean, the Democratic governors are saying, don't do anything.
Let me ask you this, actually.
In your experience being on the ground, how would you rate the performance of the LAPD and the California State Highway Patrol or the state police?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I mean, they're doing the best they can.
The problem is that they're not—you can have as many personnel as you want in situations like this.
It's if they're unable to actually— The whole reason why that we're in, what, day three, day four into this is because initially LAPD didn't respond to the rioters that were outside the federal holding facility, which is exactly what happened in Portland.
The reason why Portland in 2020 went on for so long at the federal courthouse is because it was just the federal agents and the personnel that they had to bring in because Portland police was forbidden from even talking with the feds.
And it wasn't until they were finally able to cooperate that the riots at the federal courthouse finally stopped.
So that's why what's happening right now is such a – it's such deja vu where it's literally – sure, it's a different issue, but it's the same thing where Trump is cracking down and the sanctuary city mayors and Democrat governors, they're not going to want to cooperate.
They want to borderline interfere with this.
And that's just only going to rile up the people more, because while they might not like, let's say, Kieran Bass or Newsome, they're at least being provided kind of that cover from their local leaders.
And that does matter to a certain extent, right?
That will have an impact.
And then, of course, you have city council members saying, we need to escalate our tactics.
So I think it's going to get worse before it gets better, I think.
And the problem with Los Angeles and Los Angeles County as a whole, with this large population that's sympathetic to the illegal immigrants, is that you can secure the downtown area.
But then when something pops up in Santa Monica or Glendale or Burbank or Compton, right?
I mean, Compton was kind of an area that got – And so I know the reported number is 500 Marines, in addition to the Guardsmen.
But I think it's going to take a few more units from the 1st Marine Division.
Because, again, LA is just so massive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Well, you called it, you said you were on vacation before the start of riot season.
So is this – do you see this as turning into Summer of Love 2.0?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I mean I – if you were to ask me two weeks ago, I'd say I don't know, maybe.
But with today – today and seeing the reaction from, again, the local leaders who are egging this on and trying to fight the Trump administration to – I think this does have the potential to kind of get back up to that level of chaotic behavior.
But, you know, for example, I saw that there's supposed to be a rally today in Tampa, Florida.
That's not going to go anywhere.
I mean, if something gets out of control, that's going to be shut down within the first hour, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
That's a mega country.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
But, you know, there's Chicago, there's Portland, and New York City was popping off over the weekend, too.
But then once the agents left, people didn't go to the jail or go to the federal courthouse or whatever.
They just went home.
So that's why it's significant that Los Angeles, the rioters kept the momentum going.
And then, of course, the response, which then makes them mad.
And, you know, it just spirals out of control to where now it's just like we're just going to attack cops like LAPD even.
We've seen a bunch of videos, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
There was one viral video where ICE was performing a raid, I think, somewhere in Massachusetts, and a bunch of protesters and rioters come out and start fighting with cops.
So before Trump got elected, I'd been talking about, you know, the period that we're in, it's called the civil strife period.
Civil rights movement was a civil strife period.
Sometimes these things turn into civil wars.
I don't see an immediate, in the short term, this becomes something like that.
But we are starting to see the bubbling up of this unrest and these protests, this fighting with cops.
And I had asked many Democrats, do you think Donald Trump will use the military to enforce deportations?
Of course they all said yes.
It was one of their talking points.
Trump's a fascist.
He's going to send in the military and violate the law.
And I said, okay, the question then is, Do Democrats resist this or let Trump do it?
And so what we're starting to see now lends itself to the, I think, the obvious possibility of escalation to some degree.
But either this turns into, I mean, I guess my question to you is based on what we've seen so far in these other cities in L.A., do you think the Trump administration is going to really escalate this?
unidentified
Well, again, I wouldn't say it's Trump escalated.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I know that's how a lot of people say.
I mean, that's what Newsom and Bass, they're all saying.
Well, he escalated it.
None of this would be necessary if it wasn't for the rioters from Friday.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Correct.
Fair point.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
I, HSI, I mean, the, the White House and DHS have released the list of people that they were targeting in that operation.
And it was people that we don't want in our country just because they shouldn't be here, number one, but also number two, these are some, you know, you know, these are the, these are not the very fine people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Really bad dudes.
unidentified
Right.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
So, you know, these, these are not, these are not the, you know, some, I assume are good people.
And so, but, but to them, it doesn't matter, right?
It's, oh, it's ICE.
It's a, you know, it's, it's, you know, the, The Gestapo is here.
We've got to fight them.
And that's why it's so stupid.
Because right now, yes, other people have been swept up in these raids.
I'm not denying that.
But the primary targets have been the criminals and foreign national security threats.
That has been the primary focus.
But they can't even wait.
They can't even wait for more people who are just here illegally with just like the moms and the young children in bigger numbers.
They just automatically just have to go to, all right, well, we're just going to start.
I mean, look, this has been building for a long time.
And I would say with Los Angeles specifically, again, because of the demographics, I mean, I was here in February when there were mass protests.
And it wasn't because of a big ICE operation.
It was just standard enforcement.
And it was chaotic.
I mean, the 101 back then was blocked.
I was outside City Hall with a high school walkout.
And within 10 minutes of it starting, the kids start fighting each other and the kid got stabbed.
unidentified
Whoa.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, in front of City Hall.
So with Newsom and Bass saying, oh, we didn't have any problems until this operation.
Yeah, you did.
You had massive problems.
You had like a week's worth of protests before this, a couple months ago.
So yeah, I think that's decided a little bit before that, but they've just been hyping themselves up.
They've been building themselves up for this moment.
They've been waiting for...
And they finally got it on Friday.
And I don't think it's going to let up anytime soon.
Because I just talked to a guy at ICE today.
I said, hey, is this going to slow anything down?
Because obviously it can't interfere if you can't go out and grab people because you've got a massive crowd there.
But he said, no, the plan is to still move ahead.
I mean, Trump has the mandate to carry all these mass deportations.
That's what most Americans want.
It's actually popular.
It wasn't before.
And they can thank the Biden-Harris.
And I always say, the whole reason why we're in this mess is because of the Biden-Harris administration.
Mass deportations would not have been popular if it wasn't for the four-year border crisis that was purposefully created.
So, if anything, blame those two people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I was watching some videos.
I mean, with the fires of the torching of the Waymo vehicles.
I mean,
you've got Democrats now at ICE facilities like Rhett McIver, she's on video closed fist punching a federal law enforcement office.
I think it might have been ICE or HSI.
You've been covering this stuff for a long time.
Am I wrong about this or does it seem like they're more violent than they've been in the past several years?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Well, I mean, yeah, certainly since 2021, I would say.
And I would even say that the rhetoric has gotten worse in terms of agging on the rioters, saying that we need to fight back even harder.
Because, I mean, you had a Los Angeles City Councilwoman the other day saying, if they're going to come in and escalate, we've got to escalate.
I mean, that's pretty direct, right?
And I think it's just because they know that the Trump administration is not going to tolerate this stuff.
They are actually going to act, and that's why it's significant that Trump activated the National Guard under his federal authority.
He said, you know what, we're going to buy it.
Newsom, you're clearly not doing anything, so we're going to take action.
It was a little bit of a slower response, especially with Democratic governors, back in 2020.
As someone who was in the military, especially in the reserves, which is what the Marine Corps reserves, but the National Guard reserves, I mean, that takes time.
You can send out the order to like, okay, we got to deploy, but you got to call the guys in.
You got to get all your stuff ready.
You got to get the orders.
You got to get all these plans and processes in place before you actually cross that line of departure.
And that's why – You can't wait a day or two because it takes a day or two for the reinforcements to actually come in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Are you saying that you think Trump was prepping the poll in the National Guard a day or two before they actually came down?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Well, that's what Holman was saying.
He was saying that we're one step ahead of them.
We're already calling in the National Guard.
And I think they learned a lot from 2020.
I mean, they were in office during that time.
And so I think the plans were definitely in place to say, okay, you know, with these operations and potential unrest, we've got to make sure that whichever state that these are happening in, that we can quickly call it in.
Now, they are kind of limited under the current activation that they're under because it's not an Insurrection Act deployment.
But it's still significant because if you have the National Guardsmen, Protect a federal facility that frees up police officers who can do domestic operations to, you know, get a better handle on the unrest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
You know, I'm just thinking about the past decade plus, and you mentioned how we have a riot season, and I'm just like, man, I don't know.
Was there a time when we didn't have a riot season?
Because I feel like we did.
And it's become sport for these people.
It's summer.
It's time to go outside and fight with cops for some reason and just join in, whatever the cause may be, because the cause seems to be different.
It's just whatever ideologically left-aligned cause.
So I'm just—I'm thinking about the NATO protests.
I'm thinking about BLM.
Now we've got these ICE protests or the Palestine-Israel protests.
And it seems like as long as it's summer— And we can go outside.
People are starting to do this.
But is this the reality of where we're going?
Every summer we can expect major cities to just have violence and firebombs?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I mean, even in places like Chicago and New York, right?
It doesn't even take a controversial thing, warranted or not.
All you've got to have is a bunch of 200 youths.
Show up at one spot and start just doing spontaneous looting and everything.
We saw that in Chicago earlier in the spring.
It was the first nice Friday of the spring, and a bunch of kids, teenagers, showed up and caused mayhem.
And the kid got shot, actually, at that one.
That's why I always joke.
That's why I always joke whenever I see these videos when we get to this time.
There's a reason why the college encampments last year started in December.
It started in April.
It started in mid-April.
I just think we're going to be in a season regardless.
It depends on the issue.
And depending on the issue, it will dictate whether or not it's just for – Because with the Palestinian-Israel thing, as much attention as we give that to, demographically, it's not a lot of people in the country compared to, let's say, illegal immigrants, which is why this right season has been a little bit more because not only is the administration different,
but there's just more people, like we were talking about at the beginning, that are more directly connected.
That are saying, okay, well, I might not go out and march for Gaza or Israel, but I'm willing to march out for my TIA.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
You know, it'd be funny if Trump just comes out and he's like, you know what, we're going to stop doing all ICE enforcement until maybe November, and then we're going to ramp it up tenfold, we're going to deploy the military.
I wonder what their plan is for this winter, because, smooth sailing, if ICE does raids and deports, and let me add this, you know, we're talking about how, They're largely going after the criminal elements first.
I honestly don't care who they go after.
If you're here illegally, you've got to go.
It's a deportation.
If you're here illegally and there's an order for expedited removal, we give you a ride home.
There's nothing wrong with that.
I think that if Trump makes massive moves come this winter, because he just gets in at the end of January.
Still a little cold.
He's got to get his administration ready.
But this next end of December, I doubt I doubt you can get 10 protesters to show up for anything, let alone a riot started.
If Trump's doing ice raids in the dead of winter, because nobody ever comes out.
If it's raining, they don't come out.
It could be it could be 69 degrees and then everyone's outside.
Rain starts.
They're gone.
What do you think?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and because in.
I believe it was 2020, in the winter.
Where it was the first time a Minneapolis police officer shot, and it was a good shoot, shot someone during an altercation.
And it was justified, if I'm remembering correctly.
But it was a dead winner.
And yes, I know Minnesotans are used to the cold, but it was really cold.
And because it was still Minneapolis, people did show up, but it was like 15, 20, and they did start a fire, but the only reason they started the fire was so they could keep warm.
It was just like a makeshift fire pit.
And so they weren't making Molotov cocktails or anything.
They just wanted to stay warm and nothing happened.
And same thing in Kenosha when the the police officer that shot Jacob Blake, when the DA announced that they weren't going to charge him, it was, uh, And so I was debating.
At the time, I was debating.
Should I go to Kenosha in case something happens?
But it was, again, and they did prepare.
They brought the National Guard.
They put the fence around the courthouse again in January in Wisconsin.
And again, there was a protest, but it was like 20, 35 people, and they just marched around coldly, slowly, and that was it.
And then the next day, it was January 6th, so that's a whole other thing.
So, yeah.
It is very weather-dependent, and that's why I'm saying this is a perfect storm.
Because even here in Los Angeles, right now it's supposed to be just sunny.
There's no chance of rain, there's no chance of being super cold.
unidentified
Right now, it's...
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
It's in the 70s, yeah.
It heats up, obviously, in the afternoon.
But it's supposed to be 75, 80. You know, 7580s.
So even the conditions, like just naturally, the natural conditions are favorable for these things to continue, obviously not just here, but even in Portland, Seattle, where miserable most of the year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I love that there's like a science to proper riot growth.
It's like you need the correct temperature and humidity level, otherwise people don't riot and you don't get your political outcome.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Believe it or not, there is a science to this.
The thing is always the X Factor is the spark.
It is the catalyst because that can happen anywhere.
It's like that fire triangle where you need all three components.
As long as you have all those three, something's going to happen.
It just depends on the duration.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
I love too that if it's too hot, it could be sunny out and it can be 80. People start gathering, but then if by the heat of the day it's 90, Nothing.
They all start dissipating.
Some people might stick around.
Heat isn't as detrimental to the riot as, say, rain is.
I just absolutely love the idea that these people who purport to have this worldview, they're anti-fascist.
They're sitting there going, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know, I'm anti-fascist, but no one ever said we were going to put us in rain.
Come on.
Now go home.
unidentified
And that's the thing.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Don't get me wrong.
These people are very dangerous.
They can be, especially in the numbers.
But yeah, for all their talk and bluster, they really are just – they're wimps at the end of the day because you're right.
They're like, we're revolutionaries.
We're going to take on fascists.
We punch Nazis.
And then they instigate a fight and then they cry on social media.
unidentified
Oh, I got shot with a pepper ball or I got shot with a rubber bullet.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
It's like – you do realize like actual revolutionaries would get shot with real bullets, right?
So I mean like you're not – It's not fun, but I'm not the one proclaiming that I'm going to take on the Trump regime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Was it one of those 40mm expanding foam rounds?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
It was a 40 mic mic, right directly in the stomach.
unidentified
Oh!
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
No, it was Minneapolis.
It was Minneapolis.
It was the first one because I didn't have any of my gear.
I didn't have any gear at that time.
I was just wearing my T-shirt.
Thankfully, even though the cop was in the wrong, he thankfully shot me where they're supposed to shoot you because if it was a few feet above, I probably wouldn't be living.
If it was a few feet below, you'd be talking to Giulio Rosas right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, there's a video going around of a reporter from Australia getting shot in the leg with what was probably a foam round.
And I love how in this video, you can hear some of the writers going, you just shot the press, man.
You shot the press.
And I'm just like, you hate the press.
They're LARPers.
It's so fake.
I've seen these people steal cameras and beat journalists.
It's just about what makes them pretend like they're good guys when they're the ones starting all the fights.
But last question, real quick, got a couple minutes left.
What's your plan for today?
What do you think is going to happen?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
So I've gotten word that there's supposed to be people gathering back at the federal holding facility in downtown Los Angeles.
I'm not sure how shut off LA is because, I mean, I can tell you from last night, so many of the exits and the ramps have been closed off.
So you can still use the 101, but it's not – You can't actually exit off.
So it depends.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I think people will still show up.
But if they have the personnel to cut off road access, it could obviously tamper things down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Interesting.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, this is how it is.
Just wait and see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Where can people find you?
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
They can follow me on my X account at julio__rosas11.
They can find me at my substack, mostlypeaceful.media.
And I'm also the national correspondent for The Blaze.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Right on, man.
Thanks for hanging out.
I really do appreciate you coming in and letting us know what's going on.
And stay safe out there, man.
julio rosas ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, thanks for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼
Have a good one.
That was Julio Rosas, friend of the show.
We've had him on several times.
He does great work.
I'm not an on-the-ground guy anymore, man.
You guys aren't going to see me at these protests.
Hassan Piker was on the ground, of all people.
But he said he was there specifically to support...
The riots and the rioters, so we get it.
I still do want to say this, though, because I did a bigger show about this.
Hey, man, any video coming from on the ground, even if it's from Hassan, is going to be good because he captures what he captures.
He's going to try and focus on the cops.
He's going to try and focus on ICE.
He's going to blame them for everything.
But the video is going to show you stuff.
So, you know, the more cameras down there during these moments, I think, are the better for the historical record and what's going on.
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