May 20, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| Cool. | ||
| I'm glad to have you here today. | ||
| I'm glad to be with you guys. | ||
| And I just want to get started with the big, beautiful Bill. | ||
| What I think is really great about this big, beautiful bill is that that's actually what it's called. | ||
| It's like, you know, some budget amendment, blah, blah, blah, or whatever it's called. | ||
| But in the short name for Congress, it's actually called the one big, beautiful bill. | ||
| So I think that's really, that's actually really fun. | ||
| Trump was on the Hill this morning talking all about this to the GOP, trying to bring the holdouts around. | ||
| He actually seemed to indicate that any GOP who doesn't get on board could be primaried. | ||
| He's looking right there at Thomas Massey. | ||
| That's kind of fun. | ||
| And he said, I know your district better than you. | ||
| If you lose because of SALT, you are going to lose anyway. | ||
| Because, of course, what you have are a lot of Democrat states have conservative Republican representatives. | ||
| And those representatives are worried that they're going to lose because they're in these blue states and they need the SALT deductions. | ||
| So that's one of the big holdups. | ||
| This was written for the Postmillennial by Thomas Stevenson, and we can just get into what Trump said. | ||
| He said Massey should be voted out of office and doesn't understand government. | ||
| Jake Sherman was there taking notes live from this meeting. | ||
| Trump called out Massey specifically and said that other Republicans should not be grandstanding like Massey does. | ||
| The congressman from Kentucky has been opposed to some of Trump's policies before. | ||
| When it comes to fiscal concerns, Trump has also previously called for Massey to be primaried, so it's not like they're great friends. | ||
| Massey also called out Mike Lawler from New York, another conservative who's in a blue state and could run into trouble. | ||
| You have to remember that in the... | ||
| Was it the midterms? | ||
| When Lee Zeldin was running for governor against Kathy Hochul, Lee Zeldin basically delivered a red wave. | ||
| He delivered five... | ||
| Congressional seats for the GOP in New York, even though he lost the gubernatorial race. | ||
| So it would really be a shame to undo Zeldin's gains in New York. | ||
| And, you know, Trump knows that, but it really would be a shame. | ||
| And he was upset about the salt deductions. | ||
| The salt deductions, of course, are that constituents can deduct. | ||
| From their federal taxes, their state and local taxes. | ||
| So if you're in a state where you're paying a ton of money to the state, you can scratch some of that back from your federal. | ||
| Trump said he did not want to raise the cap on SALT deductions because it could benefit Democrat governors, which, of course, it certainly could because then they can just keep raising taxes. | ||
| And the, you know, the feds are the ones that bear the brunt of that. | ||
| Lawler has been pushing to raise the caps on the deductions, even as the GOB has been crafting the bill. | ||
| The $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions from federal taxes was established in Trump's 2017 tax legislation. | ||
| And part of this bill is to solidify some of the tax cuts from 2017 to make those permanent. | ||
| And the proposed bill would raise that limit to $30,000. | ||
| And Trump is thinking about getting it. | ||
| Getting rid of that. | ||
| And he cursed. | ||
| He added that the GOP should not F around with Medicaid and should focus on eliminating waste and fraud and abuse in the program. | ||
| The big, beautiful bill, the one big, beautiful bill is over 1,000 pages. | ||
| I think it's 1,116 pages, if memory serves, from my deep dive into all of this. | ||
| Yesterday, and Human Events, where I am the editor as well, did an editorial about this that really digs into what's in the bill. | ||
| So we can just go through that pretty quick. | ||
| The bill would extend Trump's 2017 tax cut, boost the child tax credit, give breaks for families with new babies, remove taxes on tips and overtime pay, offer an added $4,000 deduction for seniors, and put an end to the absurd. | ||
| Pointless green tax incentives. | ||
| These are those incentives put into place to cut breaks for sustainable energy companies and manufacturers that couldn't make their case in the marketplace and had to rely on government telling people what energy to use, what cars or appliances to buy, you know, like the getting rid of all gas stoves. | ||
| And just as a side note, I think it's completely bonkers to tell human beings not to cook their food with fire. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, we've been doing that since Prometheus, and I don't think we should give that up now. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| It's part of our DNA at this point. | ||
| Americans don't want to be told what to buy. | ||
| They don't want suboptimal products. | ||
| So there's also new work requirements for Medicaid. | ||
| This is a controversial aspect to the bill, but one that ensures that people who can work do work. | ||
| Those who are above the poverty line, who are getting Medicaid... | ||
| So basically, you know, like everybody else, states that cover illegal immigrants on the federally funded program would be penalized and eligibility checks. | ||
| It would be implemented by the federal government to cut down on fraud. | ||
| The White House has also announced, and this is something interesting, MAGA baby savings accounts. | ||
| I don't know if you guys tuned in to Carolyn Leavitt's press conference yesterday from the White House. | ||
| It was pretty early. | ||
| I admit that I missed it and had to catch up later in the day. | ||
| But this is essentially a 401k for babies. | ||
| And Carolyn Leavitt said, not only does it increase the child tax credit, But it also includes MAGA Baby's savings account for children that are born after January 1, 2024, under 8 years old, U.S. citizens, and have at least one parent with a valid Social Security number. | ||
| And when this tax provision comes law, she says the child will, if the parents seek to do this, be set up with a savings account. | ||
| Essentially, it's a 401k for newborn baby and child's relatives. | ||
| Their parents can contribute up to $5,000 per year of after-tax dollars annually to that account. | ||
| And then later in the baby's life, at age 25, savings account holders can withdraw up to the full balance of the account. | ||
| Upon reaching 30, the account holders can access the full balance for any purpose desired. | ||
| So what I think is kind of brilliant about this plan... | ||
| And we got into it as well. | ||
| Oh, it also has a, well, I'll just talk about this first. | ||
| What I think is kind of amazing about this plan is that for a very long time, we hear that there's inequity between the wealthy and the poor and the working class and the middle class in this country, and that a big part of that is generational wealth, right? | ||
| The creation of generational wealth is something that's hard to do. | ||
| But in this case, what it's saying is, Hey, parents, what you can do is you can set up with your tax dollars that we're not going to keep from you, you can set up this savings account for your kids. | ||
| It's not always easy to come up with $1,000, especially when you have young kids, but being able to deduct it from your taxes, that's huge because, of course, then you basically get it back. | ||
| The ability to save for your child. | ||
| I don't know how many of you have kids, but the ability to save for your child is huge. | ||
| I remember when my son was very little, he was under a year old, and I found that I was unable to sleep because I hadn't... | ||
| I started an account for him. | ||
| I hadn't put anything aside, and I was really worried that he was going to reach college, and it was going to be like, well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what you do now. | ||
| Good luck with life. | ||
| So I set up an account, and then I was able to sleep better, and now he's 15. And once it becomes part of your habit, then it becomes part of your habit. | ||
| And basically, that's what the Trump administration is saying with this bill. | ||
| You can take this money. | ||
| You can set it up for your kids. | ||
| And then there doesn't have to be, most kids in America could have like these little baby trust funds. | ||
| And I think that really puts kids on a good foot once they're able to, you know, once they know money is being saved for them. | ||
| I think it's very cool. | ||
| I think that's my favorite thing about the bill. | ||
| There are some other things that are cool as well that I like, which is the tax deduction for interest on car loans for American-made cars, which ideally will drive Americans to drive American. | ||
| It's been a long time since that's been a standard. | ||
| That used to be not just a standard about good cars, but it was like a nationalist thing to do, patriotic, like drive American cars, keep people employed. | ||
| Super into that. | ||
| I was recently doing some online shopping and I was like, I don't want anything that's not made in the United States. | ||
| I landed on some page that's a bunch of stuff made by the Amish and I'm like, good, I'm all in. | ||
| All in for that. | ||
| Let's do that. | ||
| So you've got that. | ||
| There's also, the White House touts the plan is creating 15% less in taxes for working class Americans, adding up to $13,000 in additional take-home pay, strengthening family leave, and eliminates the use of Medicaid funds for child sex changes and encouraging family formation. | ||
| We've got some stuff also in this bill that Trump thought he was finished with the first time around. | ||
| We've got the border wall. | ||
| We've got Coast Guard getting new ships. | ||
| We've got new planes for the Air Force. | ||
| Increase in Border Patrol. | ||
| We've got the Golden Dome, which is like the Iron Dome that Israel has, except, you know, bigger, better, golden, and for the U.S. I think that's kind of a neat idea. | ||
| No ICBMs for us. | ||
| So yeah, they're working on that. | ||
| Congress hasn't passed a bill since the Lake and Riley Act, so they're trying to get this done by, I think, Memorial Day or maybe May 31st. | ||
| We'll see if they can get it done. | ||
| And, of course, it was a big deal for Trump to head over to the Hill and start talking to everybody about it. | ||
| Moving on to a totally—oh, look, it also has modernizing highways. | ||
| Oh, the other cool thing, modernizing air traffic control. | ||
| So there's air traffic control systems that are using floppy disks. | ||
| I mean, if you don't know what those are, you know for sure how outdated that is. | ||
| I do know what those are. | ||
| We used them in middle school when we were learning to code. | ||
| We had this very cool Irish coding teacher, and she was great. | ||
| She was hard to understand, but I remember her a lot more than I remember the coding. | ||
| Anyways, so we'll see what happens. | ||
| We're definitely going to be tracking that. | ||
| I don't know if it's going to go through today. | ||
| It got out of committee, and then you had some of the holdouts voting present instead of saying no. | ||
| So we'll see what happens. | ||
| This is something fascinating. | ||
| Candace Owens, she did a whole interview with Harvey Weinstein. | ||
| I haven't watched the whole thing, but I did watch this clip. | ||
| Tate, can we play the clip? | ||
| Can I just play it? | ||
| I can just play it, you guys. | ||
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I did not commit these crimes. | |
| I swear that before God and the people watching now and on my family. | ||
| The people who support me are scared to talk. | ||
| They are frightened to death that they're going to be canceled. | ||
| What I always found to be problematic about the Me Too movement from the beginning, we're conflating, he made a pass at me and I didn't like it, with rape. | ||
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It's a complete fabrication. | |
| About my relationship with Glennon's. | ||
| I didn't put my hand on her. | ||
| I didn't touch her. | ||
| I definitely made a pass. | ||
| Ashley Judd's claims are ridiculous. | ||
| I settled with Rose McGowan. | ||
| I gave her $100,000. | ||
| Don't tell my wife. | ||
| Don't get me in trouble. | ||
| It's all conflated, and it's all led to the idea that I am going to be the one they persecute. | ||
| They broke me. | ||
| They broke me in half. | ||
| There's just so much when you read the transcripts that defy common sense for me. | ||
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I've asked to have lie detector tests brought into the prison. | |
| I know they're not admissible, but I want the world to know. | ||
| To be honest with you, I think a lot of people are going to hear this conversation. | ||
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Candace, you know, one thing I can tell you is this is going to explode. | |
| So she's got her full interview up. | ||
| The Harvey Weinstein case is basically the beginning of Me Too. | ||
| So if you guys remember the horrible ideology that gripped this country in academia and in politics and in basic everyday life... | ||
| It's this Me Too movement. | ||
| So this was this movement where basically you believe all women, no matter what, infantilizing them essentially to say, oh, women never lie. | ||
| They only ever tell the truth about anything. | ||
| So whatever they say must be true about sexual allegations or misconduct or what have you. | ||
| And Harvey Weinstein is the poster boy, poster man for this whole thing. | ||
| He was alleged to have had a casting couch going where he gave parts based on sexual favors, you know, that he would elicit from beautiful actresses who wanted to work in the industry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have my own take on that, which is... | ||
| I'm not going to get into that one, actually. | ||
| But, you know, maybe sometime. | ||
| I think I've written about it. | ||
| If it turns out that he's not entirely guilty of all of this stuff, or even if there's questions or if there's reasonable doubt, I would love to see a reversal of that whole ethos that says, you know, oh, you patted me on the butt at work, boss, so now I'm going to get you fired. | ||
| Andrew Cuomo would benefit from a reversal of the whole Me Too thing, right? | ||
| I mean, he had two scandals that took him down. | ||
| One of them was COVID nursing homes. | ||
| And the other one was that all of these young women who had worked in his offices were saying, oh, he hugged me wrong or something like that. | ||
| And that's what got him ousted from the governorship and got Kathy Hochul taking over. | ||
| Letitia James and Kathy Hochul, Letitia James, the AG of New York, who aimed to take down Trump. | ||
| The two of them colluded to get Cuomo out of office based on Me Too stuff and then dropped all the charges. | ||
| So if it turns out that Harvey Weinstein is not quite the Satan that everybody believes him to be at this point, there's a lot more questions that should be asked and there's a lot more reversals that should be undertaken. | ||
| I'm not a member of Candace's channel, and I think that's what you have to do to watch it. | ||
| I'm pretty tempted, though, because I would be fascinated to watch this. | ||
| The New York Post did watch it, and they talked about it. | ||
| The ailing 73-year-old took aim at a handful of his A-list accusers, including Ashley Judd, as well as Gwyneth Paltrow and Rachel McGowan. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think the Post maybe just watched the same clip. | ||
| That we just, yeah, in the one minute teaser clip from the interview. | ||
| So they should have watched the whole thing, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| And then we could have gotten a lot more information. | ||
| I had a... | ||
| Helms accused him of inviting her to his hotel room, putting his hands on her and even suggesting a massage after she was cast in the film. | ||
| Emma, I had a... | ||
| I have a friend who I haven't talked to in a couple years, but she was saying that she was raped by Weinstein as well. | ||
| She was a starlet of the era around the same time as McGowan, maybe a little sooner than that. | ||
| But this whole Me Too thing cost Weinstein his entire career. | ||
| It cost him his wealth. | ||
| It cost him his wife. | ||
| And he has said that Ashley Judd's claims were ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| But I think it's... | ||
| Do you guys think it's worth exploring? | ||
| He was convicted of sex crimes both in New York and California. | ||
| He's on trial again after an appeals court found that his New York trial was tainted by prejudicial testimony and overturned that conviction. | ||
| So that trial, that appeal last year was that they didn't say he was innocent. | ||
| But they did overturn the conviction. | ||
| He faces another 25 years behind bars, and he's been in jail for a long time. | ||
| I know that he's had health problems and whatever else. | ||
| If you've watched this full interview, let me know your take in the chat. | ||
| I'm super curious. | ||
| Can I even see the chat? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I'm super curious. | ||
| You can hit me up on Twitter, at Libby Emmons. | ||
| Definitely interested to know. | ||
| What you guys think about this. | ||
| The Me Too era is definitely something that should be taken down. | ||
| Candace Owens is kind of the perfect person to do it since she took down BLM. | ||
| You know, go after all of the icons of the left, I say. | ||
| Tear them all to bits. | ||
| Another story I want to talk to you about is that the Supreme Court has now said that they will allow the Trump administration To revoke the temporary protected status for migrants, it's an eight-to-one decision pending an appeal, of course, but I think it's three... | ||
| 350,000 Venezuelans that Kristi Noem was trying to deport, and the court said, no way. | ||
| But the court has now lifted the injunction that had been placed, and this is from Hannah Nightingale at the Postmillennial, court has lifted an injunction that had been placed on the Trump administration, blocking them from ending the temporary protected status. | ||
| Status. | ||
| The ruling was an 8-1 decision. | ||
| And it says the application for stay presented to Justice Kagan and by her referred to the court is granted. | ||
| The March 31st, 2025 order. | ||
| Entered by the United States District Court for the Northern District of California is stayed pending the disposition of the appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and the disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari if such writ is timely sought. | ||
| The Ninth District, the Ninth Circuit, that is Louisiana. | ||
| That's New Orleans. | ||
| That is believed to be like the most conservative. | ||
| That's why you see the Trump administration, every time they arrest some student who said they love Hamas and hate America, they send them to Louisiana. | ||
| Because once they're in Louisiana, any... | ||
| To try and get them free or overturn whatever or get their visa back or whatever the ACLU is constantly trying to do has to be filed in Louisiana, and there's less of a chance, the Trump administration believes, that they would be sprung by that. | ||
| So this is interesting. | ||
| Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson, everybody's favorite DEI hire on the Supreme Court, said that she would deny the application. | ||
| But yeah, so we'll see what happens now. | ||
| This definitely opens the door for deportations of people on TPS, or at least they're revoking of the status. | ||
| And if TPS, what it is, is it's two years. | ||
| You get two years where you don't have to go home because your home is a disaster. | ||
| So you have people from Haiti have TPS because Haiti, obviously, it's like gangland. | ||
| I mean, it seems terrible right now. | ||
| Cuba, TPS. | ||
| Nicaragua TPS, Venezuela TPS. | ||
| But then under the Biden administration and going back, this is something that wasn't new under Biden, TPS would be extended. | ||
| So you had DHS Alejandro Mayorkas saying, we need to extend TPS, and then they would extend it. | ||
| Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was standing outside of the Roosevelt Hotel in New York when all of that was going on, saying, we need to extend TPS for Venezuelan migrants. | ||
| And then they would just extend it. | ||
| And sometimes it just would get extended and extended and extended. | ||
| And under TPS, you get a lot of federal benefits, too. | ||
| You get, like, I think you get a cash card. | ||
| You get, like, food stuff. | ||
| You get rental assistance. | ||
| And so people on TPS, when they come into small towns, end up driving up the cost of rent because they have all this free money. | ||
| And so the landlords take the free money. | ||
| And then the people who live there already are like, now I can't afford rent because you have these people who are able to throw, like... | ||
| Two grand a month at it and just free federal money. | ||
| And also, I think you get work permits. | ||
| I don't know if you get it right away or after 180 days, but that's a big part of it. | ||
| And the Trump administration wanted to get rid of this TPS program. | ||
| I think there's 530,000 people on TPS in the United States currently. | ||
| Not entirely sure, but I think it's something like that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this would be pretty wild because this was a really big program under Biden. | ||
| Biden also brought in, I think, 197,000 refugees during his four years in office after raising the refugee cap to 125,000 per year. | ||
| But yeah, I wonder what this will look like. | ||
| This means that... | ||
| The revocation of TPS for people who are still currently within their two years, probably they'll still get the full two years. | ||
| And anybody who is over those two years, my guess is that this is my guess. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I have to check it out still. | ||
| We could ask Hannah because she probably knows because she's been covering all this stuff really pretty great. | ||
| My guess is, though, that once the TPS runs out, runs its course, it will not be renewed and then it will be revoked at that point and people will be asked to go home. | ||
| There's also been this thing where people are taking up the Trump administration's offer to get free flights back to their country of origin as well as there's like a payoff. | ||
| I think it's like $1,000, something like that, where you get paid off to go home as well. | ||
| You know. | ||
| We'll see what happens there. | ||
| But across the board, we have had federal judges refusing to allow the Trump administration to go through with deportations. | ||
| One thing that I think is is true is that deportations are ugly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, we knew this going in like it's pretty ugly, like to see people just arrested at their workplace or to see employment enforcement, you know, when. | ||
| DHS or ICE or whoever shows up at a job. | ||
| That's pretty rough to see. | ||
| And I don't think anybody likes it. | ||
| And that is, of course, a big part of the empathy that goes on in saying, no, we don't want these deportations, which I totally get. | ||
| But what I don't understand is where was the empathy for Americans? | ||
| Where was the empathy for our nation? | ||
| Where was the empathy for all of that stuff when you had... | ||
| People just pouring in. | ||
| What was it like? | ||
| If you go with the conservative number of 2 million a year, then it's like 8 million people came in. | ||
| A lot of them, their court dates got thrown out. | ||
| They didn't even have to appear in court. | ||
| The Biden administration was banking on pathways to citizenship for everybody. | ||
| And I just don't think that that's going to fly. | ||
| And the reason that's not going to fly is not because of Trump, but because that's not what the American people wanted. | ||
| We have a sadder story. | ||
| You guys probably heard about this because I think everybody is perpetually online. | ||
| But Scott Adams announced yesterday that he has prostate cancer, just like the former president has, and that he doesn't expect to live out the summer. | ||
| Joshua Lysak, who is an author who co-wrote The Unhumans with Jack Posobiec and also is a columnist for humanevents.com, Wrote this really beautiful essay about Scott Adams that brought me to tears when I was reading it this morning when we were publishing on the site. | ||
| And I recommend it to all of you. | ||
| It's called The 13 Life Lessons We All Learned from Scott Adams, our beloved internet dad. | ||
| And he does go through them. | ||
| He says, the first person I texted after death touched my life as a father was Scott Adams, my internet dad. | ||
| At that time, Scott only knew me as the ghostwriting and book publishing guy from Ohio who he cured of Trump derangement syndrome. | ||
| So that's no small feat. | ||
| And what I really love about this, and when Joshua brought this to us at the Human Events editorial team yesterday, is that And what's amazing about this is Scott Adams is dying, right? | ||
| So that's terrible. | ||
| So often in our culture, we don't tell people we love them until they're gone. | ||
| And I love that this is like a prebituary, you know? | ||
| I hate to say it because, I mean, I do believe in miracles, but that's basically what this is. | ||
| He's brought this. | ||
| A celebration of this man before his passing. | ||
| And I just really think that that's great. | ||
| He says, when you experience the death of a loved one, your instincts push you into feeling tragedy, loss, and pain. | ||
| Once you've had enough of that and when you are ready, start tossing these five words around to release some of the pain. | ||
| Gratitude, respect, honor, privilege, service. | ||
| And that's what Scott told him. | ||
| And that's, I think, what... | ||
| Joshua is doing here. | ||
| He is taking that lesson. | ||
| What Adam said yesterday was, some of you have already guessed, so this won't surprise you at all, but I have the same cancer that Joe Biden has. | ||
| So I also have prostate cancer that has spread to my bones, but I've had it longer than he's had it, well, longer than he's admitted to having it. | ||
| So my life expectancy is maybe this summer. | ||
| I expect to be checking out of this domain sometime this summer. | ||
| Everyone has to die as far as I know, and it's kind of civilized that you know how long you have so you can put your affairs together and ensure you've said your goodbyes and done everything you need to. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Joshua says that he was very moved by this, that grown men are bawling their eyes out in public. | ||
| The reaction makes sense. | ||
| Scott is the original internet dad. | ||
| He is the man who has been a father figure in so many ways to so many millions of us. | ||
| Scott threw his books, comics, speeches, and daily live streams because, of course, he did Dilbert, which – Josh laid out the 13. Get raises, eat healthy, lose weight. | ||
| Grieve nobly. | ||
| Quit drinking. | ||
| Love bravely. | ||
| Date smarter. | ||
| Trust yourself. | ||
| Get promoted. | ||
| Beat depression. | ||
| Start businesses. | ||
| Release addiction. | ||
| And create with confidence. | ||
| Josh ends the piece saying that we wish Scott Adams the best. | ||
| Pray for him and give him space, peace, and support. | ||
| And I would like to second that. | ||
| I just think that's a really beautiful tribute to a man that It meant a lot to Joshua and to so many others. | ||
| In just a few minutes, we have... | ||
| I'm going to just pivot ungracefully. | ||
| In just a few minutes, we have a raw egg nationalist coming up to talk about South Africa. | ||
| A lot of people have been talking about this the past few days, few weeks. | ||
| Elon Musk brought this to the attention of everyone. | ||
| This is something that I ended up writing about in the New York Post and for Human Events. | ||
| And covering in the Postmillennial because I just thought that it was so interesting to see the turnabout of Democrats and the way that they think about refugees when those refugees' skin color is not what they want it to be. | ||
| Namely, you know, brown because brown people are oppressed and white people are oppressors and that is just the worldview that they have. | ||
| For the New York Post last week, I wrote about... | ||
| All of the pundits that are coming out saying, well, those white South Africans aren't experiencing a genocide, so they can't come here. | ||
| And I'm thinking, really? | ||
| Is genocide the standard? | ||
| In that case, like, you know, probably only Uyghurs from China should be coming here based on that. | ||
| Like, they're the only ones. | ||
| Maybe Myanmar? | ||
| I'm not really sure. | ||
| But where are there genocides in the world happening right now? | ||
| If that's the standard, then we're not talking Venezuela, Haiti, Cuba, or Nicaragua, or anywhere else, really. | ||
| I mean, maybe the DRC. | ||
| Under the Biden administration, there were people from the Democratic Republic of Congo were prioritized for refugee status and refugee relocation. | ||
| So, yeah, tell me when we have raw egg. | ||
| Oh, hey, how's it going? | ||
| Hi, I can't hear you. | ||
| I can't hear him. | ||
| This is all new for me, you guys. | ||
| Do I unmute a tab? | ||
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Oh, look at that. | |
| Unmute. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Hi, can I hear you now? | ||
| Hello, Libby. | ||
| Hey, how are you doing? | ||
| Yeah, I'm good, thanks. | ||
| Good to be with you. | ||
| Good to be with you as well. | ||
| So we have your piece up at humanevents.com about what's going on in South Africa and the refugees who came here. | ||
| Can you tell us a little bit about that situation? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So I wrote a piece, an opinion piece for Human Events about the Africana refugee program, which Trump promised right at the beginning, actually not long after his inauguration. | ||
| It was interesting, actually, you know, the... | ||
| The pushback against anti-white racism in South Africa came basically straight away from the Trump administration. | ||
| It was almost more or less a day one policy. | ||
| You know, you had Marco Rubio saying, look, you know, this has got to end. | ||
| This is despicable. | ||
| You know, we're not going to attend the G20 in Johannesburg, which I think, you know, that's a pretty big thing in and of itself, because if I remember correctly, then the leadership of the G20 is passing to the US at the end of the year. | ||
| So, you know, that's a big snub. | ||
| That's a serious snub. | ||
| You had Elon Musk also, of course, who is a South African. | ||
| He's not a boer, but he is a white South African nevertheless, you know, doing his best to raise awareness of anti-white racism in South Africa and farm murders. | ||
| And then you have Donald Trump saying, look, actually, we're going to we're going to offer refuge to white farmers who are fleeing state-sponsored persecution. | ||
| Uh, I mean, I'm still surprised, actually, that this has actually come off, that he's actually done it. | ||
| But, you know, last week, 59 white Afrikaners arrived in the U.S. at Dulles Airport. | ||
| All hell broke loose, really, especially on social media, but also in the mainstream media, too. | ||
| So on social media, I mean, you have these ghastly videos of people... | ||
| We're going to hunt you down. | ||
| We're going to find you. | ||
| We're going to make you go back to South Africa because you don't belong here. | ||
| We're going to find you. | ||
| And then you had mainstream commentators saying too, these people shouldn't be here. | ||
| They don't deserve to be here. | ||
| They're not fleeing oppression. | ||
| They're not being targeted in their home country. | ||
| And actually... | ||
| As a matter of fact, maybe they should go back to their real homeland, which is Germany. | ||
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| That was Ashley Allison. | ||
| She was saying that on CNN. | ||
| She said that they're not experiencing genocide, so they should go back to Germany. | ||
| And this has been something that they keep bringing up. | ||
| You know, there's no genocide of white people in South Africa, so there's no such thing as refugees. | ||
| What do you make of that? | ||
| Is a refugee only someone who's experiencing genocide? | ||
| No, obviously not. | ||
| And certainly, I think, as you were saying just before I came in, if you look at the criteria for other countries, if you look at the criteria for these special exemptions that were given for the Cubans and the Venezuelans and the Nicaraguans, then it's all pretty thin. | ||
| And the point of my article really is... | ||
| Look, this is mask off now. | ||
| Now we're seeing really the double standards. | ||
| Now we're seeing that actually, you know, this isn't about anything other than actually the fact that these people are white. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| The problem is that they're white. | ||
| And white people don't deserve protection in the liberal worldview. | ||
| And in fact, actually, perhaps, you know, it's even darker than that. | ||
| It's actually, you know, white people actually basically deserve to be... | ||
| Well, to be exterminated. | ||
| We know this already. | ||
| This isn't actually news to us. | ||
| And that's something I say in the article, too. | ||
| We know that white people are bottom of the heap in the liberal hierarchy of morality and values. | ||
| We know that the worst thing it's possible to be in the liberal worldview is a white heterosexual man. | ||
| Up until now and until this refugee programme, then there was a certain amount of hedging. | ||
| There was always a little bit of embarrassment about the kind of exterminationist rhetoric that you'd hear. | ||
| It would always be kind of hedged a little bit. | ||
| But now that's gone. | ||
| I mean, now that there actually are white refugees arriving in the US from South Africa. | ||
| Bearing the original sin of apartheid as well. | ||
| That was something that Rick Stengel, who is a kind of deep state apparatchik, he went on, I think, MSNBC, and he said, you know, look, these people aren't responsible for apartheid, not directly. | ||
| But basically, they bear the original sin. | ||
| They bear the stain of apartheid. | ||
| They've benefited from the apartheid system. | ||
| And so they absolutely cannot be let into the country. | ||
| And so what this really is, and this is the crux, I suppose, of my argument in the opinion piece, is this is a theological view. | ||
| This is a liberal theological view of white people as basically bearing original sin. | ||
| Yeah, it's a complicated, unpleasant thing. | ||
| But yes, definitely, by the actual standards that are applied generally to refugees, people seeking asylum in the US, then of course they should be able to come. | ||
| Of course they should be able to come. | ||
| There was an argument. | ||
| I was listening to the New York Times has this daily podcast and they were going on about this and it was actually really fascinating to listen to some of the... | ||
| Some of their apologies, essentially, for the violence against white South Africans, saying, you know, it's really not that bad. | ||
| It's not a genocide. | ||
| There's just, you know, a bunch of murderers. | ||
| It's really not so bad. | ||
| Who's really worried about that? | ||
| The black South Africans deserve a better chance, you know, deserve to be refugees more than the white South Africans do because of apartheid. | ||
| And, of course, you had Ashley Allison, who you mentioned earlier. | ||
| She's the one who said go back to Germany. | ||
| She was saying on that same—and she was corrected, you know. | ||
| Like, you know, whatever. | ||
| She was corrected. | ||
| But she was like, whatever, who cares? | ||
| She was saying also that the white Afrikaners, if they don't like the new laws that have been put in place, the sort of land reclamation laws, then they should just go back to Germany, that they should, you know, that's their problem for not liking the laws. | ||
| These laws that have been enacted for 2025 essentially say that land can be grabbed by the government for no compensation. | ||
| And when you look into it, they're saying, oh, you know, it would probably go through the courts and it's probably just for land that's standing there that nobody's using. | ||
| And they accuse the white South Africaners of having the most, like owning the most land in the country. | ||
| But doesn't the government own the most land in the country? | ||
| I mean, I do know that the white South Africans, Afrikaans in particular, yeah, then I think they do publicly own or rather privately own the farmland. | ||
| And I think they do own the most. | ||
| But yes, I mean, I would imagine that the South African government has much more land actually to do anything with. | ||
| And it could, if they wanted to, then they could give land to black South Africans to farm. | ||
| But what's important, I think, actually to note is, you know, This expropriation has been done before. | ||
| It was in the 90s, right, with Mandela? | ||
| But also it was done in Zimbabwe. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| Former Rhodesia. | ||
| And it turned Zimbabwe from the breadbasket of Africa into a basket case very, very quickly. | ||
| And in fact, actually what's so ironic and sad now is that actually the government of Zimbabwe is trying to ask white farmers to come back. | ||
| How's that going for them? | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, would you go back really, knowing that actually your land could be taken at any moment by the government? | ||
| And weren't there a fair number of murders also in Zimbabwe? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes, yeah, very much so. | ||
| I mean, not only during the long bush war that took place before Rhodesia became Zimbabwe, but also actually afterwards, then yes, there was a period of sort of, I think it was about 20 years, actually, when White farmers still held on to a lot of land, but they were threatened and attacked and murdered and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| And then this land expropriation law was brought in, and the country went to hell in a handbasket very, very quickly. | ||
| So it's very strange to see, actually, the South African government wanting to go in the same direction as Zimbabwe, because if there's a cautionary tale, it's Zimbabwe. | ||
| But it's about more than that. | ||
| It is, I think, about eliminating white people, I think, and expropriating white people and taking revenge on white people, too. | ||
| And, you know, I end this piece for Human Events by saying it's sad that actually, you know, these people, these Afrikaners, they're fleeing this exterminationist mindset, but actually they're coming to America and they're discovering that also actually a lot of people in America hold it, too. | ||
| And, you know, America isn't that different a country from South Africa, unfortunately. | ||
| It's just that South Africa is further down that... | ||
| There was a situation under the Biden administration where it was because of COVID, and so they decided to give out a bunch of loans to American farmers who had suffered under COVID. | ||
| And Agriculture Secretary at the time, Tom Vilsack, prioritized Black farmers and Black landowners for these loans over their white counterparts. | ||
| And the argument was specifically that... | ||
| This was a racial consideration. | ||
| Of course, the white farmers did sue, and they brought it to court. | ||
| And Vilsack admitted, the Biden administration had to admit, that their intention was to remedy past discrimination with discrimination in the present. | ||
| And the judge, the federal judge said... | ||
| You know, that's not cool. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| That's totally illegal. | ||
| Do you think that America could get to a place with the wrong leadership where that kind of thing is permitted to go through? | ||
| I mean, essentially, that's what's going on in South Africa. | ||
| They're trying to fix past discrimination by discriminating in the present against the people who are the descendants of those oppressors or just look like them. | ||
| Do you think that we could end up with something like that? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I do. | ||
| I think that it's actually the logical end point, actually, of all radical leftist political projects is this kind of... | ||
| Collective scapegoating, collective dispossession, collective punishment. | ||
| We saw it in the Soviet Union, of course, where it was class-based. | ||
| But there was also an ethnic element to it, actually, in the Soviet Union, too. | ||
| But certainly now in the new kind of updated leftist worldview, where it's not about class, but it's about race, then, yeah, I think that the collective scapegoating inevitably ends up... | ||
| Focusing on white people. | ||
| It's never anybody else. | ||
| And so, yes, I mean, I think if the wrong kind of regime were to take power in the US, then, yeah, I mean, there's absolutely no reason not to believe that that couldn't happen. | ||
| And, you know, we've seen moves towards, like you say, you know, we've seen moves towards this kind of... | ||
| really. | ||
| In fact, and during the pandemic, it wasn't just farmers. | ||
| You may remember that actually medical treatment actually Oh yes, I've forgotten I forgot about that somehow, yeah. | ||
| Yes, so monoclonal antibodies, for example, which were one of the more effective, I think, treatments for COVID-19, they were rationed in certain areas and only given to non-white Americans. | ||
| It was actually explicitly said certain treatments will only be given to non-whites on the basis of historical injustice, structural inequality, etc. | ||
| It's not that it's just happening in terms of property ownership or access to land. | ||
| It's across the board. | ||
| And actually, the medical industry in particular, there's a great focus on structural inequality. | ||
| Lack of access to medical treatments for non-whites and attempt to remedy it by allowing non-whites to have preferential access to new treatments. | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, you're already further down that road, actually, I think, than you know. | ||
| And once you start to collect together all of these different examples, actually, it becomes clear. | ||
| Yeah, we're not that different, actually, from South Africa or Zimbabwe. | ||
| You know, you start talking about the 1619 Project, for example, this attempt to say that actually, no, America wasn't founded in 1776. | ||
| America was founded in 1619 when the first slave ship arrived. | ||
| And that's America's original founding sin. | ||
| So the founding of America wasn't something to be proud of. | ||
| It was the original sin of bringing Africans as slaves to America. | ||
| I wanted to get your reaction on this clip. | ||
| Tate, can we play this? | ||
| This is Ellie Mistal. | ||
| Am I saying that right? | ||
| This was pretty weird. | ||
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This election has proven that this administration has proven painfully in some ways is that Black people cannot save this country from white folks. | |
| We can't do it alone, right? | ||
| If white folks aren't going to join in, if white women aren't going to join in, if Latinos aren't going to join in, we can't do it alone. | ||
| This election has proven that this administration... | ||
| Why do you think Elie Mistal thinks that the country needs to be saved from white people and that white people need to help him do it? | ||
| Yeah, it's a funny thing, isn't it? | ||
| It's part and parcel, and actually I talk about this too in the article, this notion that actually when they're talking about whiteness, what they're talking about actually is a structure. | ||
| So it's kind of a way of disguising the fact that actually it is just naked hatred of white people for the colour of their skin. | ||
| But what they say is these kind of race grifters, these academics, these kind of pseudo-intellectuals, they say no. | ||
| Whiteness isn't white people. | ||
| Whiteness is a structure of oppression, and white people themselves can help to dismantle it. | ||
| But they don't actually mean that at all. | ||
| They're just clothing naked racism in basically this sort of respectable garb. | ||
| But yeah, I think that there is this emphasis on white people sort of... | ||
| Exterminating themselves, basically, effacing themselves, you know, because I think it's kind of like, I mean, it's this twisted kind of revenge kind of rhetoric. | ||
| And I think it makes that revenge even sweeter, you know, sort of forcing white people basically to participate in their own destruction. | ||
| It's a funny thing. | ||
| I mean, it's a deep kind of, it has these deep psychological wellsprings, I think. | ||
| In this sense of revenge, in this sense of resentment and a kind of desire to revenge oneself on one's oppressors, it's nasty stuff. | ||
| It's nasty stuff. | ||
| And look... | ||
| You know, we've seen, we know where it leads. | ||
| In South Africa, it leads to murder. | ||
| It leads to rape. | ||
| It leads to the killing of children. | ||
| I mean, you have, you know, you have these South African politicians and race grifters who say, you know, we shouldn't just kill white people. | ||
| We need to kill their pets, too. | ||
| We need to kill their cats. | ||
| We need to kill their dogs. | ||
| Why do they need to kill the pets? | ||
| I thought pets were innocent. | ||
| Well, but this is the thing, because I think it's a sense of sort of... | ||
| Wiping every last trace of white people from South Africa. | ||
| Different ethnicities have different attitudes to animals, for example, and to pets. | ||
| I think that's partly what it is. | ||
| It's not enough simply to redistribute the land. | ||
| You actually have to make it as if these people never existed at all. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you sadly missed our guy. | ||
| I mean, I think he probably would in an unguarded moment say something that wouldn't be out of place at all at one of these kind of blood-curdling South African rallies. | ||
| But of course, for the sake of respectability, he has to clothe his naked racism in some kind of slightly more acceptable garb. | ||
| And I think that's what he's doing there. | ||
| Under the Nelson Mandela government, In the 90s, there was a plan to create reparations for black South Africans. | ||
| And there was a big initiative for either cash reparations or land repatriation. | ||
| And most of the people took cash instead of land. | ||
| So why do you think that the South African government believes now that, you know, either that the same culture that encouraged Black South Africans to take cash would now encourage them to go about farming. | ||
| I was reading some statistic, and I don't have it on the tip of my tongue, but it was that a lot of the land owned by black South Africans is not being farmed at all anyway. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, farming is difficult. | ||
| Farming is hard. | ||
| You can't just come into farming. | ||
| From, you know, you're an urban, you're a poor urban black South African, you know, you're not going to know how to run a farm. | ||
| I mean, it's a recipe for disaster. | ||
| And again, you know, in Zimbabwe, land from white farmers was just given to Robert Mugabe's cronies, to members of his kind of extended clan and his sort of political grouping. | ||
| And it was a disaster because they didn't know what to do with it. | ||
| So, I mean... | ||
| That's at least, I think, the sort of Nelson Mandela thing. | ||
| That at least is a sign that Mandela understood South Africa needs to have a functioning agricultural sector. | ||
| And look, if we're going to do reparations and sort of make amends for apartheid, then it would be better actually to redistribute money rather than redistributing the land. | ||
| But whatever wisdom Nelson Mandela was possessed of, I don't think South Africa's current leaders are. | ||
| I think that they're totally wrapped up in this... | ||
| Well, what they're actually totally wrapped up in is they're totally wrapped up in distracting from their own part in South Africa's downfall. | ||
| South Africa has declined enormously in three decades since, what, 1991 or 1994, whenever apartheid officially came to an end. | ||
| It's been 30 years, and South Africa is a third-world country now. | ||
| And all sorts of things are going wrong and it's mismanagement, it's cronyism, it's corruption. | ||
| But no, actually, it's white people. | ||
| It's white people having all the land because that's basically the only thing that white people kind of have left in South Africa. | ||
| And so I think the focus on the land is... | ||
| It's basically a way to distract from the South African government's failures. | ||
| But of course, it will only make things worse. | ||
| You also had the leader of South Africa, Ramaphosa, saying that those South Africans who came to the US were essentially cowards, which I found really surprising. | ||
| Like, how do you say that people who pick up everything and move to another country are cowards? | ||
| It's actually... | ||
| It seemed to have a lot of daring in it, if you ask me, you know, people who leave everything behind. | ||
| My ancestors did that themselves, you know, from Italy and Norway, and they were some of the most courageous people that I know. | ||
| Why do you think that he was interested in framing these people as cowards? | ||
| Well, yes, I mean, it does. | ||
| I mean, the Boer have been in South Africa for longer than the Bantu. | ||
| So the Boer were there first. | ||
| The Boer have been there for 400-odd years. | ||
| You know, they carved out an inhabitable nation from wilderness. | ||
| And, you know, they have deep, deep ties. | ||
| I mean, they genuinely believe that they have a right to live in South Africa and to continue, you know, maintaining the land and maintaining the traditions of their ancestors. | ||
| Those comments by Ramaphosa are just part and parcel, really, of the demonization of white people in South Africa. | ||
| I think that you have to, you couldn't portray them as being brave in any sense. | ||
| You have to portray them. | ||
| They're cowards because, of course, they obtained the land, you know. | ||
| So it's not like, you know, you can't really actually concede any kind of sort of goodness to these people. | ||
| You have to demonize them. | ||
| You have to say, look, these people are cowards. | ||
| They got the land illegally. | ||
| They exploited black South Africans. | ||
| They created this terrible racist system of segregation and exploitation. | ||
| And now look what's happening to them. | ||
| They're getting what they deserve. | ||
| Well, they're about to, and they're going to run away. | ||
| They are the ultimate cowards. | ||
| So I think it is just about portraying white South Africans as morally reprehensible in every regard, as evil, as evil, you know, basically. | ||
| Do you think more Afrikaners are going to seek to come to the U.S.? | ||
| Well, I mean, I did some reporting about this at the weekend and the weekend before, and I did read somewhere that the U.S. Embassy, I think... | ||
| People in Johannesburg said, or Cape Town, wherever it is, said that something like 70,000 white South Africans have registered interest in the program. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| That's a huge number of people. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's like four million, I think, white people in South Africa. | ||
| But yeah, I think tens of thousands, at the very least, are interested in coming. | ||
| And I'm not surprised either. | ||
| I mean, this number, this first batch, 59, that's potentially, that's a drop in the ocean, actually, compared to the number that might actually come. | ||
| And I can assure you, if tens of thousands, if 70,000 Afrikaners come to the US, then there will be a collective. | ||
| I mean, there's already been a meltdown, but it will be. | ||
| It will be visible from space, I think. | ||
| Also, what happens to countries when they lose so many people? | ||
| We've seen that with Central American countries where a lot of people come to the US and then the countries are in turmoil and they lose smart people, industrious people who are willing to make that kind of leap of faith and the next thing you know, the country is falling into ruin. | ||
| Do you think South Africa would be worse off to lose all of these people? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| South Africa will be like Zimbabwe, but South Africa is a bigger country than Zimbabwe. | ||
| It's a huge landmass, yeah. | ||
| Much larger population, enormous infrastructure. | ||
| South Africa has always been a much wealthier country than Rhodesia and then Zimbabwe. | ||
| So we're actually going to see... | ||
| Similar problems, but on a far, far greater scale. | ||
| In Zimbabwe, what you've actually seen is you've seen a lot of black Zimbabweans basically return to the land and to a more tribal way of living, the way that their ancestors had lived before them. | ||
| I don't think that you're going to see that in South Africa. | ||
| You've got these huge... | ||
| Urban populations of very poor black South Africans, they can't just go back and live like their tribal ancestors. | ||
| So there's going to be terrible, terrible unrest, I can assure you, if the food stops being produced, if they can no longer be fed. | ||
| And that, I think, will lead to really, really terrible violence too. | ||
| And it will be directed at... | ||
| White people. | ||
| It will also be directed at the coloreds in South Africa. | ||
| Like the Indians and Pakistanis who are there? | ||
| Well, coloreds are a kind of separate racial group in between whites and blacks. | ||
| And the blacks in South Africa hate them as well because they're mixed. | ||
| So they've got maybe some white ancestry as well. | ||
| Sounds like a very healthy society. | ||
| They have their own kind of subculture, if you will, or separate culture. | ||
| And they're usually more successful than just the straight black South Africans. | ||
| They get a lot of hatred directed towards them as well. | ||
| And like you say, yes, the Indians. | ||
| I mean, in Uganda, then the Indians, when Idi Amin came to power, then they were persecuted because they were a very successful minority. | ||
| So I think that, yes, I mean, if South Africa really does start to break down. | ||
| If you really do get a collapse, and I mean, it's already collapsing now, you know, you have rolling blackouts, infrastructure is constantly falling apart, and you've got copper cables being stolen all the time and transformers being stolen, and anything that isn't nailed down and guarded is looted by these kind of roving gangs of thieves. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to see serious unrest, serious urban unrest, lots of violence, will be difficult for the government to control. | ||
| It's not going to be nice, and it will happen. | ||
| It will happen. | ||
| Well, thanks so much for joining us today. | ||
| Why don't you tell people where they can find you? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It's been a pleasure, Libby. | ||
| So you can find me on Twitter. | ||
| I'm RawEggNationalist on Twitter. | ||
| BabyGravy9 is my handle. | ||
| I'm on Substack, raweggstack.com. | ||
| I have a magazine called Mansworld, which is mansworldmag.online, and I write and report for Infowars as well, so you can find my news stories and opinion pieces on infowars.com as well. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| And be sure everyone to check out his article in humanevents.com. | ||
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| Great. | ||
| So thanks, guys. | ||
| Thanks for tuning in. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out with us today, hanging out with me today. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I'm actually going to be in tomorrow. | ||
| Thursday, which is the day after tomorrow. | ||
| So tune in for that as well. | ||
| Tim's out of town. | ||
| And I'd like to throw to Russell Brand. |
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