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New Trump Assassination Report SCREAMS INSIDE JOB, Secret Service KNEW | Timcast News

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you look at the latest news pertaining to the Trump assassination brief
		and the Senate report on the Trump assassination attempt in Butler and conclude anything other
		than inside job.
		And I will make it very simple for you.
		Donald Trump, the breaking news has reported he has been briefed by the director of national intelligence that there are Irani assassination threats against him related to the killing of Qasem Soleimani.
		That there was a man arrested on July 12th who had been orchestrating, organizing an attempt on Donald Trump's life.
		And that brings us to what we know about the big picture.
		The Secret Service was allegedly briefed, according to these reports, that the DOJ had arrested a man who had been organizing an assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 12th.
		With this knowledge, The secret service says they were, the DOJ says they were briefed.
		The secret service was to increase security for Trump.
		What happened the next day?
		27 minutes before.
		Crooks was able to get off those shots.
		The Secret Service was informed.
		They did nothing.
		Now, we know this, but new information is quite damning.
		Even after people were screaming and local law enforcement were running towards Crooks with their weapons out, the Secret Service stood down!
unidentified		How?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How is that possible?
		Sorry.
		You decide.
		I ain't gonna say anything.
		No conspiracy theories here.
		The Secret Service testified that they did not do their jobs despite knowing a day in advance they needed increased security because there was an assassination plot against Donald Trump.
		They didn't secure the building the cops told them to secure.
		They knew three hours, one hour, 27 minutes, 10 minutes, two minutes, and 22 seconds.
		Those are all of the time frames in which Secret Service was told explicitly this is going to happen.
unidentified		They stood down every single time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Explain to me.
		Oh, wait!
		You can't!
		Every response on Twitter is like, okay, inside job.
		And it seems like the narrative is this.
		Let me start here.
		A poll came out showing that 28% of Democrats believe this country would be better if the assassins succeeded.
		So let's just say one in four Secret Service agents, one in four, Well, and that's not fair.
		That's not fair.
		Let's say it's 50-50.
		Let's say some are Democrats, some aren't.
		So 1 in 8.
		Is that all it takes for a Secret Service member to know Donald Trump can't be released from holding with an active threat?
		They didn't care.
		They released him anyway.
		Police are running with their guns drawn and Secret Service is like, no, no, no, no, no.
		Don't pull Trump.
		Don't pull Trump.
		That makes sense.
		I'm I'm losing my mind over this report.
		Ladies and gentlemen, this is absolutely insane.
		None of it makes sense unless the simple solution would be Secret Service were briefed.
		There was a plot against Trump and they actively decided to let it happen.
		Or, one person in logistics, as I've long said, is the simplest solution, just discoordinated, or whatever, made sure that there was no active plan to stop this guy.
		But we're going to break this down.
		I'm going to read you this stuff, and none of it makes sense.
		Unless you come to the conclusion that there were more than one Secret Service agent that were intentionally standing down, hoping this guy would succeed.
		We'll go through it.
unidentified		We got other news.
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		Ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about this breaking news, which is terrifying, shocking, and honestly, we try to be reasonable people, but the conclusion here with the information that's coming out is, I suppose Occam's Razor suggests inside job.
		That's the only conclusion.
		To all the people who are like, no, it was a cascade failure of every possible thing going wrong, I'm like, that's not possible.
		I don't believe it's possible.
		It was Viva Frye who said it's fractal wrongness.
		It's just exponentially ridiculous.
		I'm going to give you the quick brief and then we're going to read through this report from the New York Times.
		Donald Trump has put out a statement.
		He's been briefed that there are threats against him.
		Assassination teams.
		Iran is out to get him.
		The DOJ arrested a man on July 12th for orchestrating a plot against Donald Trump.
		Offering up to a million dollars to take Trump's life.
		Secret Service was briefed, instructed to increase security.
		Reportedly, they said they did.
		The next day, they didn't have Secret Service on the roof where they were supposed to, despite local law enforcement saying, you need security up here.
		They saw a guy fly a drone over the event.
		Nothing.
		Nobody says a thing.
		He sneaks in, this crooks guy, he sneaks in and police are like, hey, a guy just snuck in.
		Nothing.
		3 hours before, they spot him and they say, we got a weird guy.
		They do nothing.
		1 hour before, someone says, hey, there's a weird guy.
		They do nothing.
		27 minutes before, they say, guys, we got a threat.
		Identified threat.
		This guy.
		They did nothing.
		10 minutes before, police spot him with a gun on the roof.
		This may have been 2 minutes before, but somewhere around this point.
		I think it was two minutes before they see him on the roof of the gun.
		I think it was ten minutes before they see him by the building and they go over there.
		Two minutes before the shooting took place.
		Two minutes.
		The cops, because the body camera footage was released, they see him on the roof.
		He points a gun at a cop.
		Two whole minutes.
		Nothing.
		Not a single moment did they pull Donald Trump off that stage.
		At some point, local law enforcement are running full speed.
		People are screaming, he's got a gun.
		Secret Service stood down.
		Explain it to me.
		It defies logic.
		They're supposed to keep Trump in a holding position, in a secure location, to make sure there's no threat.
		There was a threat.
		They still let him out.
		As soon as they identified a threat, Secret Service should have pulled him off the stage very calmly and comfortably.
		They did not.
		When local law enforcement are running full speed, they should have said, get Trump off the stage now!
		They didn't.
		It defies logic.
	Unless, looking at those polls that show that Democrats think Trump, we'd be better off if Trump did not survive, some of these agents might be thinking that too.
	I don't know what to tell you, my friends.
	Let's read the news.
	Stop taking it from me.
	Ignore me.
	I'm wrong about everything.
	I'm going to say that right now.
	Forget the conspiracy theories.
	Ignore everything.
	Let me read for you exactly what we're learning about.
	First, Trump is briefed on Iranian assassination threats.
	This is the big breaking news.
	Former President Trump was briefed on Tuesday by U.S.
	intelligence officials about specific threats from Iran to assassinate him.
unidentified		U.S.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		intel agencies had previously tracked a potential Iranian assassination plot earlier this summer, with officials stressing they did not consider the threat related to the shooting in July that wounded Trump.
		They did not consider it related.
		Earlier this month, another man was arrested, this we know, Ryan Routh.
		But let's pull up this one.
		And we'll loop back to the current state of affairs, the threats on Trump's life, and why I fear what's coming in the next month.
		We've got three assassination attempts.
		I guess you can call the first one a plot, but this is a guy who was organizing the assassination on Trump, and with the Secret Service operating as they are, I am very, very worried.
		Trump, I believe, needs to hire two different private security agencies independent of each other.
		Maybe Eric Prince can help.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
unidentified		U.S.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		detected potential Iranian plot to kill Trump separate from Saturday's shooting.
		This is from July 16th.
		U.S.
		intelligence agencies were tracking an assassination plot against Trump in the weeks before gunmen opened fire.
		We now know, according to the reports, that they arrested the guy the day before.
		Time Magazine reported that Secret Service said they were going to up their security.
		Take a look at this.
		From the Post Millennial.
		Secret Service was informed of Crook's 27 minutes before shots were fired in Butler, PA and never told Trump to get off the stage.
		Shortly before shots were fired, a Secret Service counter-sniper saw local law enforcement running towards the AGR building with their guns drawn.
		But he did not alert former President Trump's protective detail to remove him from the stage.
		Inside job.
		Thank you and have a nice day.
		I don't know what to tell you.
		I desperately want to believe incompetence played a role here in some way.
		But it doesn't add up.
		You cannot combine.
		Hey guys, there's a plot to assassinate Trump.
		We just arrested the guy who organized it.
		Okay, the next day, he's got a gun, he's got a gun!
		No, no, no, just leave Trump there.
		No way.
		Absolutely not.
		The simple solution here is that Secret Service, some of them, not all, I don't know, At the very least, they never organized.
		We can make this argument.
		They didn't organize anything.
		They knew the threat was there.
		They knew they had been warned.
		And they looked at each other like, should we just let it go?
		Let the guy do it?
		And it seems like that's what happened.
		And you got to wonder why there was no Secret Service on the rooftop.
		Honest question.
		Local law enforcement, body camera footage.
		They're screaming, we told Secret Service to get people up there.
		What are they doing?
		Ten minutes before, they knew this guy was over there.
		Two minutes before the shots were fired.
		That's wild.
		There's a video that synchronizes the police going to the building.
		They see a guy on the roof, they're going to investigate, and you can hear Trump talk, and the time lapse is around two minutes.
		At no point did Secret Service be like, hey guys, you know the assassination plot that the feds told us about yesterday?
		We think it might be, there's a guy on the roof!
		Quick, get Trump out of here!
		Right now, we're hearing Trump has to cancel his Wisconsin rally because Secret Service says it did not have sufficient assets to secure the event.
		I'm going to tell you my opinion on this one.
		And I know the corporate press is going to scream.
		They're going to call me a conspiracy.
		I don't care.
		None of it adds up.
		If they can pull Trump, a Trump rally now, why didn't they do it when they were told there was an assassination plot against them?
		See, now there's scrutiny.
		Absolutely insane.
		The Post Malone reporting.
unidentified		U.S.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Senate report on the Trump assassination attempt by Thomas Matthew Crooks and Butler, PA, on July 13th was released on Wednesday morning and reveals, as Senator Richard Blumenthal warned it would, shocking security failures by the U.S.
		Secret Service.
		The agency knew that Crooks was on the building for 27 minutes ahead of the attempt on Trump's life, which killed one man and injured others.
		At approximately 5.45 p.m., Secret Service personnel were notified that local law enforcement observed a suspicious person with a rangefinder near the AGR building.
		By 5.52 p.m.
		at least eight USS personnel had been informed approximately two minutes before shots were fired.
		So hold on there a minute.
		5.45 p.m.
		they say there's a guy with a rangefinder and all the Secret Service they knew that there was a plot to assassinate Trump active and they had arrested the guy who organized it.
		Okay.
		I think there should be a criminal investigation here.
		The findings of the report, well I guess the argument then is from these Secret Service agents is, we didn't do anything wrong, we just didn't do anything.
		The findings of the report list 12 key points of complete and total failure, where Secret Service should have taken action to protect the President and take out the shooter and completely failed to do so, nearly costing the nation a former and perhaps future President, depriving a family of a father and husband, and grandfather, in a prevent, in the, uh, in the, uh, oh, and, and this is, this is not Trump, but, And actually, they did deprive a family of a father and husband, Corey Comperatore.
unidentified		1.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Secret Service personnel were notified of a suspicious person with a rangefinder 27 minutes before the shooting.
		27 minutes!
		And they knew of the plot!
		27 minutes.
unidentified		2.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were notified of an individual on the AGR roof 2 minutes before.
		And they knew of the plot.
		I don't believe it.
		shots were fired, a counter sniper for Secret Service saw local law enforcement running
		towards the building with their guns drawn, but did not alert Trump's protective detail
		to remove him from the stage.
		The Secret Service counter sniper told the committee that while seeing officers with
		their guns drawn elevated the threat level, the thought to notify someone to get Trump
		off the stage did not cross his mind.
		I don't believe it.
		I don't believe it for one second.
		Counter snipers, including the one who shot and killed Crooks, were sent to the rally
		in response to credible intelligence of a threat.
		However, the Secret Service personnel interviewed by the committee nearly all said they were unaware of any credible intelligence of a threat.
		Secret Service advance agents on July 4th for the rally denied individual responsibility for planning or security failures, deflecting blame, and could not identify who had the final decision authority for the rally.
		They're covering up for someone.
		They're covering up.
		I think they're all in on it.
		I think each and every one of these guys should be criminally charged.
		I'm not exaggerating.
		I'm not kidding.
		It's not a joke.
		They're all basically saying, we don't know who's in charge.
		Well, you've got a chain of command.
		Who's the boss?
		We don't know.
		So you all violated all... I mean, look at the... I don't know, man.
		Okay, maybe there's something criminal here.
		Maybe.
		Maybe I'll just get fired.
		Local law enforcement raised concern of the security of the building.
		Secret Service advance personnel identified multiple line-of-sight concerns.
		Eight, there were two separate communications centers at the July 13th rally.
		One for Secret Service, one for local law enforcement.
		Nine, Crooks was in the Secret Service counter-sniper sites for mere seconds before he fired at Crooks.
		I don't know what that's supposed to imply.
		He should have shot sooner.
		Secret Service advance agents requested additional resources that would have been helpful, but they were denied.
		So who was in charge and who denied it?
		Secret Service CUAS system experienced technical problems and was inoperable until 4.33 p.m.
		after Crooks flew his drone near the site.
		They never stopped him.
		They didn't think it was suspicious that a guy was flying a drone.
		Nobody seemed to care.
		Secret Service officials reported experiencing technical problems with their radios at the rally and told the committee such problems are common for Secret Service.
		I don't buy it.
		I think these are all deflections so they can say, oh, there's plausible deniability.
		Everything broke all at once.
		The radios weren't working.
		Our drones weren't working.
		We don't know who is in charge.
		And, you know, I don't buy it.
		I don't buy it.
		I have to believe that the simple solution here is, one, A bunch of different people, all didn't do their jobs properly, accidentally.
		Their radios coincidentally stopped working.
		They were confused as to why a guy was walking around sneaking in flying drones, why he had a rangefinder.
		Everybody just whoopsie-daisied.
		Alright, let's entertain this.
		The drone.
		Every Secret Service agent, every law enforcement personnel saw the drone, or maybe they just couldn't see it.
		The sun was too bright.
		They looked up like, is that a drone up there?
		I can't tell.
		So they all just, what's the only logical conclusion?
	Certainly if they saw the drone, they'd be like, who's flying a drone right now?
	Ours don't work.
	Flying a drone over a presidential rally?
	That seems insane.
	So the only explanation would then be either they let it happen, Or they all simultaneously suffered a flash of blindness and deafness all at the exact same moment.
	Come on.
	Bro, you ever go outside and there's a drone?
	They're loud.
	They're loud.
	Before a rally?
	Okay, fine.
	They all just were stricken with inexplicable blindness at the same moment.
	I can't see or hear.
	Every single one.
	Every single law enforcement officer.
	Every single secret service agent.
	Every single one.
	Fine.
	We all choose to believe that.
	We're gonna say, that's what happened.
	It was magic.
	Because it's cascade failure, right?
	Alright, so an hour before, they see this guy sneak in.
	There's a tax measure that goes out.
	They all decided, you know what?
	We did an assessment and the guy who snuck in is not a threat.
	Every single one.
	Every single local cop and secret service agent.
	All just decided, all of a sudden, we don't care.
	It's fine.
	I don't know how you explain that one away.
	I mean, I can come up with a magical explanation where all at once, a blinding light blinded every law enforcement officer of all different agencies and they couldn't see a drone flying over them.
	And there was no suspicion.
	But let's be, I'll calm down a little bit.
	They saw the drone and said, I don't care.
	That's the real explanation.
	They all saw the drone flying over and they said, I don't care.
	That's it.
	Because if they wanted the risk to Trump to increase, if they wanted Trump to be harmed, they'd look at the drone and ignore it.
	And if they just plumb didn't care either way, they'd look at the drone and they'd ignore it.
	They heard this man snuck in, they ignored it.
	He climbed on the roof, they ignored it.
	He had a rangefinder, they ignored it.
	Ten minutes before, or I think it was two minutes before, he's pointing a gun at cops.
	They ignored it.
	So you mean to tell me That you genuinely believe that y'all out there corporate press, because again, I'm agreeing with you on this one.
	You are correct.
	This was all just cascade failure.
	Yeah, it's just that one moment in history where every law enforcement officer knew that there was a suspicious guy that had been flying drones.
	He is armed with a gun on top of a building, and for two minutes, not a single one said, pull Trump from the stage.
	And they had a briefing from the FBI that there was an assassination plot against Donald Trump, and they arrested the guy just the day before.
	So you knew all of that, and wow, that's pretty incredible.
	It's a pretty wild conspiracy theory you got there, to believe all that.
	Now that's a conspiracy theory.
	The amount of leaps and assumptions you have to make to believe that all of that is true, I believe, shows that... I'm sorry, I can't believe you're that dumb.
	Just can't do it.
	Can't believe you're that dumb.
	But they're going to come out and they're going to say, how could this have happened?
	Any reasonable person can figure that out.
	You know, imagine you see a broken window and there's a rock inside the house and the window is broken.
	And you go, man, that's so weird.
	How could this have happened?
	There's a rock right there and the window's broken.
	Well, we've concluded that at some point, somehow the wind became really strong and the window just shattered.
	And then a rock blew in and landed there.
	Is that what's believable?
	Because that's basically what they're doing right here.
	A reasonable person would conclude that if the FBI informed them there was an assassination plot, and this guy was spotted all over the place, that they actively denied Trump the protection he deserved, knowing what was about to happen.
	That's the nice way to interpret it.
	Otherwise, you're basically saying, oh, the window broke somehow, we don't understand, and the rock came in after.
	Why would you conclude that?
	When you hear hooves, you don't think zebras, you think horses.
	That's what they say.
	Right now, we're being told that the threat is real.
	Donald Trump has this tweet he posted just last night.
	He said, Big threats on my life by Iran.
	The entire U.S.
	military is watching and waiting.
	Moves were already made by Iran, but that didn't work out.
	They will try again.
	Not a good situation for anyone.
	I am surrounded by more men, guns, and weapons than I've ever seen before.
	Thank you to Congress for unanimously approving far more money to Secret Service.
	Zero no votes, strictly bipartisan.
	Nice to see Republicans and Democrats get together on something.
	An attack on a former president is a death wish for the attacker.
	Jack Masobik points out, Matt Gaetz had reported, five assassination teams actively operating here in the United States targeting Donald Trump.
	The New York Times reports Stephen Chung, a Trump campaign spokesman, said that the threats from Iran were part of an effort to destabilize and sow chaos, and that intelligence officials have identified that these continued and coordinated attacks have heightened in the past few months.
	A spokeswoman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence acknowledged the briefing took place But declined to answer questions to provide any specifics.
	It is not clear if the intelligence officials provided new details about existing threats by Iran against Trump, or if spy agencies had gathered information about new plots against them.
	They're going to mention that Iranian hackers hacked Trump, seeking to influence the 2024 election, breached by Trump's campaign, and sent excerpts from the documents pilfered from the campaign to people associated with Biden's reelection campaign this summer.
	Iran also engaged in an amphibious—I'm sorry, amphibious—ambitious and brazen effort to spread disinformation about the election.
	The effort appears intended to undermine Trump's campaign, according to officials, but they have also targeted Biden and Harris, suggesting a wider goal of sowing discord and discrediting American democracy.
	Oh, American democracy, is that what they call it these days?
	Indeed, indeed.
	Russia and China have also engaged in disinformation campaigns aimed at influencing American elections.
	American spy agencies have assessed that Russia favors Mr. Trump, seeing him as a skeptical of U.S.
	support for Ukraine, and U.S.
	officials announced a broad effort to push back on Russian influence campaigns this month.
	Here we go.
	We got more from the New York Post.
	Lead Secret Service agent at Trump's Butler rally knew of credible intelligence of threat but didn't raise alarm.
	I'm sorry dudes.
unidentified		How?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to conclude anything other than inside job.
		And there's a clarification here.
		The corporate press is going to try and downplay this.
		They want the narrative to be Iran.
		By inside job, I'm not saying that people in Secret Service worked with the guy to go after Trump.
		No, I'm saying it appears that Secret Service was well aware that there was a plot against Donald Trump.
		And though it may be unrelated to Crooks, the day before they were briefed, they needed to up their security.
		And instead, they stood down.
		I'm going to say that again.
		They stood down.
		I'm going to say that a third time.
		The Secret Service on that day stood down.
		They stood down.
		Now I'm going to get a bunch of naysayers and traitors saying, no, they did their jobs, Tim.
		No, they didn't.
		You see a guy walking out of the range finder.
		You do your job.
		You say, hey guy, what are you doing?
		They stood down on the roof.
		They see a guy climbing up on the building.
		He's got a gun.
		They stood down.
		Cops are running towards a guy.
		They're screaming.
		He's got a gun.
		They've got their guns drawn.
		Secret service stood down.
		They just waited.
		Nobody pulled Trump from the stage.
		They never kept him in hold.
		We know all of this stuff.
		We've known this for a while.
		So you explain it to me.
		You explain it to me, okay?
		Because I ain't playing that game.
		None of it makes sense.
		Trump's forced to cancel his Wisconsin rally.
		They're saying they don't have the sufficient assets to secure the event.
		A whistleblower has come forward alleging that the Secret Service told former President Trump's team that it didn't have sufficient resources to secure a rally the campaign wanted to hold in Wisconsin.
		Senator Josh Hawley revealed the whistleblower's account was provided to his office.
		Let's pull up the tweet here from Hawley.
		He says, A whistleblower tells me the Secret Service denied the Trump campaign the resources and manpower for a rally in Wisconsin.
		That contradicts Roe, who said Trump, Harris, and Biden were all getting the same protection Dear Acting Director Roe, I'm writing concerning a new whistleblower allegation.
		Secret Service effectively forced the Trump campaign to cancel an upcoming event in Wisconsin.
		You see, Wisconsin's a very important state for Donald Trump and for the Republicans, and they don't want him to have a chance to win.
		And so here we are.
		According to the whistleblower with direct knowledge of the exchange, Secret Service recently told the Trump campaign that it did not have sufficient assets to secure a potential campaign rally in Wisconsin for the former president.
		Other whistleblowers with knowledge of Secret Service planning protocols allege that failure to provide protection from a major public event is highly unusual and that a sitting president would never be denied resources in this way.
		Well, my friends, I think it's fairly obvious that there is a, let's just call it a concerted effort to make sure that Donald Trump does not win.
		There are individuals working within our government, within our law enforcement agencies, and it appears they don't want Trump to win.
		I think it's fairly obvious, right?
		I think most of you already agree on that.
		There's polling.
		28% of Democrats.
		So the questions I asked, once again, I'll say it because I do think this is important for the story and the narrative.
		First, is Trump derangement syndrome real?
		It is.
		Two, are there people when polled, do they say that they wish Trump had lost his life or believe we'd be better off?
		Absolutely.
		One poll shows it was, I think it was YouGov, 28% of Democrats.
		And then lastly, is it possible some of these people work in government?
		We know for a fact they do.
		We know for a fact that there are elements within the government who hate Donald Trump.
		They're terrified.
	McCabe said that members of the FBI are talking about fleeing the country if Trump wins.
	So what does all that add up to?
	I don't know how you conclude anything else.
	This country is in very serious danger.
	And now we have this to add on top.
	Idaho man charged with threatening to kill Trump.
	I am not going to read that quote from the guy.
	But the guy is a quote where he literally said he was going to go after Donald Trump.
	His name is Crazy Bull.
	Seriously.
	64 of Idaho.
	Made nine phone calls with threats to Trump's home on July 31st.
	Just a couple weeks after the assassination attempt.
	A Facebook page that is believed to belong to Crazy Bull contained more threats against the GOP nominee.
	Saying that he was going to start driving home... He was going to start driving to the home... Of... What he... Wow.
	This is actually really crazy.
	He refers to Trump as a multi-person rapist.
	You see what happens when in New York they change the law so that a crackpot old woman can go after Donald Trump this way?
	Her story was ridiculous.
	A jury did find Trump to be liable, but the whole thing makes no sense and it's weird that it even happened.
	And these people believe all of these things.
	And so they decide to take it upon themselves to do something shocking and evil.
	Here we are, man.
	Trump campaign spokesman Stephen Chung said of the threats, Kamala Harris and liberal Democrats are the ones who are deranged.
	There have been two heinous assassination attempts on Trump, and their violent rhetoric are directly to blame.
	They keep saying it's a threat to democracy.
	And, you know, we had a lot Eliyahu on the show the other day, two days ago, and he was saying, they're allowed to say these things.
	I agree with them that they're allowed to say these things.
	I believe that it is distasteful and vile that they would.
	What I mean to say is, I don't think anybody should get arrested if they say Trump's a threat to democracy, right?
	But, you know, after the first bullet whizzed past Trump's head, you might want to tone the rhetoric down a little bit and say, guys, we don't like Donald Trump.
	We think his policies will be a detriment to this country, but he certainly is nowhere near as bad as a lot of people think.
	But no, we don't.
	There are people to this day who still believe he called neo-Nazis very fine people.
	That was a hoax.
	Wasn't real.
	But they believe this stuff.
	And they legit think that there is, like, a Klansman neo-Nazi guy running for president.
	Because the media keeps lying about him.
	I fear the worst.
	I genuinely... I fear the worst.
	Washington Post.
	Americans are more worried about political violence under Trump.
	New polling from CNN suggests the effort to draw equivalence between right and left isn't yet working.
	This is really fascinating, isn't it?
	Roughly 73% of voters say they're concerned about politically motivated violence.
	90% Democrats.
	I am sick of this!
	The psychotic word diarrhea from people like Rachel Maddow have driven Democrats into a psychotic, delusional, paranoid state.
	That's why they're threatening Donald Trump.
	Republicans don't feel the same way.
	Republicans, I believe it's only 59% that are concerned of violence, despite the fact the assassination attempts are all pointing at Trump.
	But the paranoid, delusional psychopaths that have been watching endless Rachel Maddow are deranged and believe that neo-Nazis are going to take over and march to the streets, smashing things and arresting people and other garbled nonsense.
	That's what they believe.
	And so when you get these reports, Americans are more worried about violence under Trump.
	Yeah, because you gotta put your January 6th right here.
	Because there was one, one bad day.
	A very bad day, mind you.
	January 6th was awful.
	And they lie about it, they hype it up, they target all of these people, and they ignore the insurrection.
	You know, I love this.
	I'm hanging out at the old poker tables, as I often do.
	And a gentleman asked me about, you know, we were talking about the state of this country, and I said, well, the problem is half the country lives in a paranoid, delusional state.
	Is this half the country?
	I was like, yeah, about half the country.
	He's like, just half the country?
	I was like, yeah, just half the country.
	There are a certain amount of Republicans that live in this paranoid, delusional state, and a certain amount of Democrats, but it's overwhelmingly Democrats, so it's about half.
	And maybe he meant more than half, but I'm like, even if you think every Democrat is in a paranoid, delusional state, that's still only half the country.
	And I don't think literally every Democrat.
	I think just most of them.
	A lot of them know they're lying.
	And I brought this up.
	I said, you go to the average person, And they don't even know about the May 29th insurrection.
	They don't know about the firebombing of St.
	John's Church.
	They don't know about the firebombing of the White House.
	Far-left extremists firebombed the White House.
	Did you guys know this?
	I mean, I assume most of you did because you watch this show.
	They firebombed the White House.
	The president was forced into an emergency bunker.
	Where was the congressional investigation?
	The hearings?
	How could we tolerate this?
	I'm only clear about the firehouse.
	They firebombed the White House from outside the fence so that the firebombs didn't hit the house.
	They hit the guard post outside and in the grass and they set fire to St.
	John's Church across the street.
	They rushed Donald Trump into an emergency bunker fearing that people would had they had already breached the barricades and they feared that they could breach the White House.
	They had already breached the barricades outside.
	Nobody knows.
	But you know, I do love bringing this up because instantly all of the normies who don't pay attention and don't know, they look over with this concerned look like, what are you talking about?
	And then they hear these two people definitively saying this thing happened.
	It's an interesting to encounter when you don't pay attention to the news.
	Democrats live in a paranoid, delusional state where they're told neo-Nazi white supremacists are taking over and will go around attacking people.
	It's not the real world.
	But they don't understand.
	They can't understand.
	It's a cult.
	That's why we say it's a cult.
	Well, my friends, where we are right now, Nate Silver says that Harris is favored to win by almost 10 points, probabilistically.
	And we have this similar from FiveThirtyEight.
	They say in their simulations, there's four ties.
	This is wild, dude.
	4% chance of a tie is... I'm sorry, it's 0.4% chance of a tie.
	It's a thousand, not a hundred simulations.
	0.4% chance.
	But, uh, that's still pretty interesting, because we're looking at, like, what, 1 in 250?
	Those are pretty good odds, man!
	1 in 250?
	I mean, you won't go to win the lottery talking about hundreds of millions.
	Right now they're saying that there's 550 scenarios where Harris wins and 45 where Trump wins, so it's still pretty much a toss-up.
	Less than a 1 in 100 chance that there's no electoral college winner, but still pretty significant.
	I don't think we're going to head that route, though.
	There's one scenario where Trump actually can get upwards of 310 electoral votes, and a couple where Trump gets 436.
	I'm genuinely curious how that happens, because I don't know that I see 436 electoral college votes for Donald Trump.
	But the state of the race, my friends, is getting quite serious.
	And, you know, I have to wonder, man, All of this data that's coming out.
	I'm going to say this.
	I want to make sure it's all clear for the corporate press and everything they want to say about this.
	Man, what a wild coincidence that all these things happened.
	You know?
	Every single Secret Service agent, law enforcement agent just stood down on that day despite having advanced knowledge of an assassination plot against Donald Trump, seeing a suspicious guy flying a drone with a rangefinder, climbing up on a roof, armed with a rifle, pointing the rifle at cops.
	Wow, what a crazy coincidence.
	That's all it was.
	There's no conspiracy theory.
	None.
	You're right.
	And I'm wrong about all of this.
	All that happened that day was it was just, you know, every failure that could have happened, happened all at once.
	And every single Secret Service agent, law enforcement agents just were just incapable of seeing and hearing a drone at the same time.
unidentified		You know?
unidentified		You know, that's the only explanation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go to the next segment, my friends.
		We've got a lot more to go through.
		The Alex Jones story is pretty wild.
		So let's grab the Alex Jones InfoWars story.
		InfoWars will be auctioned off to pay Sandy Hook families.
		We'll jump to that in just a minute.
		But first, we're going to grab your Super Chats.
		So get your Super Chats in.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Clayway says, number one, indeed sir, Tim Trump and my egos are the same.
		We say we're the best, which makes us the best, even when on a true, not true, I certainly don't think I'm the best at anything.
		I think I'm pretty good at a lot of things.
		I think that's fair.
		A lot of people take pride in their work and think they're good at things.
		I'm certainly nowhere near the best skateboarder.
		Nowhere near the best podcaster.
		Nowhere near the best guitarist or musician or songwriter.
		In fact, I gotta be honest, I don't think I'm the best at anything.
		I can look at every single thing I have ever done and point to people who are better than me at it.
		But I try my best.
		I can say that.
		I'm as good as I can be.
		I am the best that I can be.
		I've been eating healthy.
		I've been exercising.
		I've been working as hard as possible.
		I have been trying to make sure I'm getting the proper amount of sleep.
		I am doing everything that I believe I could be doing efficiently.
		And there are certain questions, though, because I do feel like I want to believe I'm doing the best I can, but I don't know what I don't know.
		So I think that it's probably best to conclude I'm doing the best that I can do with the knowledge that I have, but it is very likely I could do better.
		As for everything else, man.
		Yeah, nowhere near the best at anything.
		Who is the best at things anyway?
		Who's the best songwriter?
		Who's the best skateboarder?
		I don't know, there probably isn't one.
		I don't know, Nige Huston maybe?
		Best skateboarder?
		Best guitar player?
		I have no idea.
		Alright, here we go.
		Thocket says, on the topic of Doomsday, I enjoy Doomsday prepping as more of a hobby because regardless if Doomsday actually happens, actually came, I'd be a goner 3-6 months after my chronic illness meds run out.
		It's funny because the thing about prepping is you're buying things that you don't lose.
		If you buy emergency food that lasts 25 years, you can always eat it.
		That's the funny thing.
		It's like if you have gold, you can always sell it.
		So this is the thing about buying gold, food.
		You're not losing the value of these things.
		It's one thing to pay rent, that money's gone, right?
		It's one thing to buy perishable food, normal food on a day-to-day basis that perishes and it's gonna be gone.
		Your money goes somewhere, it goes away, that value is disappearing.
		But if you were to go out and buy like gold for your savings, I get not everybody can, you just have the gold.
		And then if at any point you need to liquidate it, you just go and you trade it and you have money now.
		So if you buy like a 25-year food bucket and you put it in storage, You can always crack it open and eat it whenever you need to.
		The value is retained.
		So if you spent a hundred bucks on something, you've not lost a hundred dollars.
		You still have that net worth.
		All right, let's go.
		Apocalyptic Pioneers.
		Tim, you always say to download a survival guide to your phones.
		I'd recommend against that.
		Phones run out of power.
		Get Bushcraft 101 Box Set by David Canterbury.
		Best $40 or so you'll ever spend.
		Well, of course you gotta have a book.
		I'm telling people to download to their phone because they can literally do it right now for free.
		But, uh, you definitely wanna have a book.
		Those cost money, though.
		All right.
		Common Sense Fishing says, again, using your logic, if Iran took out Trump, everyone would scream war.
		What do you say?
		Do you support, do, do or support if our own government took him out?
		Honest question.
	Not trying to push violence.
	Honest cue.
	I'm saying my point on this, about Iran, has nothing to do with the US government collapsing because there's a civil war between factions.
	If one faction of our government assassinated a president, You're looking at revolutionary consequences, but it's all about whether the people know.
	My point about war with Iran is a nation cannot exist if its leaders are murdered by adversaries and the country has no response.
	If you tell the world we will not react in any way if a foreign enemy kills our politicians and leaders, your treaties are worthless.
	You have no nation.
	You have no leaders.
	That's why I'm terrified of this.
	Now, that being said, not like I'm going to blindly believe the government and intelligence agencies if they try to claim that Iran actually did this to Donald Trump.
	I do think there is a preponderance of evidence right now, regardless of what the intelligence agencies say, that Iran is targeting Trump.
	I'm sorry, like, Trump killed Soleimani.
	He did.
	And they publicly said, like, the Ayatollah's like, I'm gonna get him.
	Like, he just said, he says he's gonna do it.
	So, you know, you don't need the intelligence agencies to be like, I think Iran might try to kill Trump.
	You know, you've got, I think it's reasonable to conclude sometimes You know, I look at the corporate press.
	Alex Jones, you know, will have to auction off Sandy Hook, uh, part of his company.
	That's true.
	We know it's true.
	Alex Jones said so.
	So, we know they're not lying.
	They're probably lying about other things, often.
	But, you know, broken clock, right?
	Twice a day.
	There you go.
	And, uh, you know, let's grab some more Super Chats.
	Ooh, inhaled that one.
	Excuse me.
	Alright, what do we got?
	Ryan Sargent says, Loudreth Crowder dropped more Varma footage where he talks about pharmaceutical companies collaborating with media and NGOs to push vaccines.
	Indeed, it's crazy stuff.
	What, uh, Crowder's done a really great job with this.
	Mug Club, shout out.
	Alright.
	Shakenbake says, I grew up and the political class of my state, from local office to congressional, around.
	Sorry, around.
	There was a O-U and a missing there.
	At every level, the elitist mentality was always there.
	Yeah, I've seen it.
	They think they're better than you.
	They can run things better than you.
	Soapy Enigma says, watched the IRL show this morning.
	Anyone that has an issue with Ian hasn't listened to Elad.
	Ian would probably mediate on what you said, you mean meditate?
	And Elad would forget the moment he starts talking.
	Well, we like Elad.
	We like our collective voices.
	You know, Ian's our resident hippie, woo-woo, anti-Trump guy.
	He hates Kamala too, so.
	The thing about Ian that really works that people need to understand is that he'll genuinely ask someone to explain themselves and allows them to articulate an argument very well.
	So, a lot of people don't like Ian because they're like, he doesn't know what he's talking about, why is he saying these things.
	Listen.
	If you were to show the whole time where everyone's like, Trump is right about war, and that's all we said, I know, yeah, his stance on Abraham Accords, and then we don't elaborate?
	You're not being armed with good information.
	But when Ian then says, what were the Abraham Accords?
	We say, it was a series of treaties between Israel and Islamic nations that allowed economic normalization.
	They were actually, for the first time, flights going to Israel from Muslim countries, and trade was normalizing, which is the first step in peace.
	That's great to have on a show.
	So that people can understand.
	And then if he says, what did Kamala Harris do?
	How did the Inflation Reduction Act cause inflation?
	It's like, oh, well, thank you for asking.
	Now you can break it down.
	It was actually a mass spending bill.
	And mass spending results in inflation because you're flooding the market with cash.
	You're giving money to people without an increase in supply.
	So people start buying products, but there is not supply on the other end to fill those gaps.
	Costs start going up because people are now bidding more money to buy things.
	People require more money to buy things.
	It all around creates more inflation.
	So I like that.
	I like Elad, too.
	I disagree with him.
	I get heated with Elad because he's very pro-war.
	He's a neocon.
	But we've got to have those debates.
	We've got to have those debates.
	I will say, however, last night, when we were talking about international socialism, I made a great point.
	What do you say to these Democrats who say, I want this policy, face negative repercussions from the policy, and then keep advocating for the policy?
	And Elad kept saying he felt bad for them because of his empathy.
	I tried explaining to him that what he wants is not what they want.
	And so when he claims to have empathy, he's not empathizing with them.
	They don't want what he wants.
	There are some people that want to sterilize their kids.
	They're happy to do it.
	Now, to protect the kids, conservatives are going to be like, we got to stop that.
	You're not empathizing with them.
	Oh, I feel for them.
	These poor people want to sterilize their kids.
	You're saying that's a bad thing we can't let happen.
	When they go and do it and bad things happen.
	We don't say, oh, those poor people, I can't believe we say, they're happy with us.
	The simple version is, go to San Francisco, go to a progressive who was a victim of a violent crime.
	Majority of the time, if you say, do you support bail reform?
	They'll say, I do.
	A week later, they're mugged.
	You go to them again and say, do you still support bail reform?
	They'll say, yes, I do.
	And they're gonna be like, I understand that I got mugged, I accept that.
	The same thing is true, because he brought this about vaccines.
	He's like, Democrats mock Republicans who refuse to get vaccinated and died.
	And I'm like, right.
	It's hypocrisy.
	If you go to a Republican and ask him, do you think there should be vaccine mandates?
	They'll say no.
	Then Herman Cain or whoever else dies, you go to them again.
	Do you think still there should be vaccine mandates?
	They'll say, absolutely not.
	It doesn't change their positions.
	Okay?
	You can certainly empathize in the immediate, but not on the policy issue.
	If people are getting what they want, and there are negative repercussions, they outright say they accept the results.
	Conservatives do this too.
	Democrats do this.
	They keep trying to believe, they want to believe, that conservatives want to believe they have the same values.
	Dinesh put it very, very well.
	Shout out to Dinesh D'Souza.
	He said, The presumption of empathy here is that you cannot believe they genuinely want the results that they're advocating for.
	You think they must be so stupid and so wrong they're making mistakes.
	They know exactly what they're talking about.
	Let's grab some more Super Chats before we jump to this story here.
	Alright, let's see what we got.
	AZT says, these assassination attempts have given the perfect cover to silence Trump.
	Before this, they never could have legitimately cancelled Trump rallies.
	Now they have the perfect excuse.
	Indeed.
	And that's what we learned they did.
	That's crazy.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Granger Defiance says, long time viewer from back in the Obama days.
		Much respect for all you have built and how you have shaped our culture.
		We need it.
		My wife loves your coffee.
		How about a step on snack protein one?
		Oh, that's a good idea.
		We are working on protein bars.
		Maybe we should make a Step-on-Snack protein bar.
		I mean, the funny thing is, um, boonieshq.com—oh, I'm sorry, the Step-on-Snack boards are sold out again.
		You know, I told them we needed 500 boards immediately, and I don't know how much they got printed in a day, but they're selling out like hotcakes.
		Because everybody loves Step-on-Snack and Find-Out.
		I think it's hilarious.
		It's very good.
		All right.
		Veldrin Ola says, either it was an inside job or the higher-ups assigned all of the most incompetent agents to Trump's detail.
		Which indicates what?
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		Dr. Design says, I love your work in culture building endeavor.
		Thank you.
		I live nearby and have an idea for a show that'd help us grow, which I dedicate my life to.
		What's the best way to connect and pitch my concept?
		We are not accepting pitches.
		For one, legally, it's like impossible to do.
		But right now we are bursting at the seams.
		Boonies HQ just launched.
		We're selling boards, so we're trying to get the content stream going, the membership program going for Boonies, and marketing and all that stuff.
		And it's super heavy undertaking.
		It's very expensive.
		And then we have, obviously, Pop Culture Crisis.
		Shout out there.
		The 700th episode will be Friday.
		And we also have tales from the inverted world.
		We're filming commercials for these things.
		We're gonna be launching big marketing campaigns.
		So we need to get those, you know, ball rolling down the hill.
		Inverted world is so awesome.
		Have you guys watched it?
		Basically taking callers from people who talk about ghost encounters and aliens and I love that stuff.
		That's that's what it's all about.
		All right, we'll grab one more here.
		Let's see.
		Cain Abel says, The problem with the left and their policies is that they will move and push for the same policies in our areas, yet they will be fine with their failing policies in our areas they moved to.
		Right.
		They move to areas that are nice and then advocate for things that destroy everything.
		Oh man, what do we got here?
		Giovanni Garcia says, don't lie to him.
		You keep Ian around because he's got that heat.
		And I think you're referring to marijuana.
		I don't think Ian does any drugs.
		Like, I'm pretty sure Ian doesn't do drugs and doesn't drink.
		Seriously.
		Like, he doesn't smoke pot or anything.
		At least not when he's here.
		Maybe that's why he goes to Miami.
		I don't know.
		But, I think y'all need to understand that Ian doesn't need that stuff.
		I don't know what's going on over there.
		Alright ladies and gentlemen, we got huge news here.
		Let's talk about this.
		From the New York Times, Alex Jones' InfoWars will be auctioned off to pay Sandy Hook families.
		A sale of the InfoWars website and other property is set for November, and could determine the conspiracy theorist's fate as a broadcaster.
		Let me just stress this to the machine.
		You can't stop Alex Jones.
		You will never stop Alex Jones.
		Nothing you do will ever shut down Alex Jones.
unidentified		Nothing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I do find this interesting, because I have to wonder who is going to dare help Alex Jones pay his debts?
		It's a bold undertaking.
		Some, you know, I'm like, imagine you're a media company, and someone says, Hey, Alex Jones, his company, they're gonna sell off all this property, try and pay off his, his, his San Diego debt.
		How would you like to give him a hand?
		Wait, hold on a minute.
		Do you want to be a media company in any respect that is the one who provided the cash to Alex Jones to help pay down his debt?
		You bought his gear from him?
		You are using the InfoWars equipment?
		I don't know, man.
		Perhaps there are liberals who are like, ha ha ha ha ha, I got Alex Jones' camera.
		I can't imagine them wanting to use it.
		Going to people and being like, yeah, thanks to the hard work of InfoWars and everything they built, we were able to get these discount cameras, and I was happy to provide cash to Alex Jones so that he could pay down his court debts.
		I don't know who's going to want to take that on.
		The left is so censorious and so, um, so cancelless.
		I don't know what the right word is for it, but they're very much into cancelling people.
		Do you really want to be the person that's using InfoWars equipment because you gave him the money for his debts?
		I'm just saying.
		But let's read this.
		A Houston bankruptcy judge ruled on Tuesday that assets from the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' Infowars empire can be auctioned off to help pay families of the Sandy Hook mass shooting victims the defamation award he owes.
		The auction, set for mid-November, will include Infowars' website, social media accounts, broadcasting equipment.
		You can't auction off social media accounts.
		That's not allowed.
		Elon Musk, you just go, no.
		Elon owns the X account.
		Sorry, nothing you can do about it.
		Broadcasting equipment, product trademarks, and inventory owned by Free Speech Systems, InfoWars' parent company.
		Mr. Jones' fate as a broadcaster most likely depends on who buys his business.
		Though the InfoWars name and assets are potentially of interest to a range of entities on the far right under the terms of the sales anyone can bid.
		And therein lies the big point.
		Do you think a liberal is going to go buy InfoWars?
		Maybe.
		And then they'll redirect it to CommonwealthHairs.com or something.
		That they'd probably enjoy.
		But I can't imagine That they'd want to buy the equipment and trademarks and utilize them in any legitimate way.
		You're likely, more likely to see someone on the right take this up.
		Because the money helps Alex pay down his debt, which he probably never could.
		And it keeps the, you know, it's going to be some right-wing interest.
		I'm seeing people say Elon Musk should buy InfoWars.
		He probably could.
		They're gonna say that Mr. Jones spent years spreading lies that the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook, uh, we get it, was a hoax, and the families were actors.
		The families suffered online abuse, personal confrontations, and death threats from people who believed the conspiracy theory.
		Relatives of 10 victims sued, and, you know, we all know Alex was wrong to do this.
		I remember where I was when that story broke.
		I was in a burger joint in Brooklyn, watching the news, dumbfounded and saddened to see that stuff.
		Not a fan of this.
		But you know, he apologized for it.
		I do think the reality is they're trying to destroy his business.
		If they wanted to make money, they'd just garnish his revenue.
		They'd take his money.
		Instead, they're like, no, auction it off, shut it down.
		Now here's what's going to happen.
		This is the most insane move, in my opinion, because right-wing interests, people who like Alex Jones, can simply buy up enough of it And then hire Alex Jones.
		What are you gonna do?
		Some 20-year-old guy who's got a net worth of negative $5,000 credit card debt can file for an LLC, offer up a RevShare contract for Alex Jones as an independent contractor, and then film on his phone, make tons of money, and then pay Alex Jones a salary.
		And then what happens?
		In the event they go after this new company, that kid with a negative net worth goes, Okay.
		I'll shut the company down.
		Start another one.
		We don't have any money.
		There's literally nothing they can do to stop Alex Jones.
		Sorry.
		They just can't do it.
		They say he was sued for defamation in 2018, and they were awarded more than $1.4 billion in damages.
		But the most the families are likely to ever seize is a small fraction of that, and they have been divided over how to equitably distribute the money.
	As the case is headed to court in 2022, Mr. Jones' company declared bankruptcy.
	Jones declared personal bankruptcy soon afterwards.
	Since then, the families have been wrangling in bankruptcy court over assets and revenue that are far less than they originally envisioned.
	Mr. Jones' personal and business assets combined are worth less than $10 million, according to independent valuations presented in court.
	His lawyers and other bankruptcy professionals will be paid first, leaving even less for the families.
	That's funny.
	The Connecticut and Texas sides divided sharply over how to go after free speech systems.
	Lawyers for the family who sued Mr. Jones in Connecticut, the relatives of eight victims, favored shutting down the company and liquidating its assets, with the money distributed among the family members.
	Here's what I hope for.
	Congratulations.
	You've done it.
	I hope within six months, Alex Jones' company is operating once again.
	It's a new company.
	There's nothing you can do.
	You can't subject someone to indentured servitude like this.
	It just doesn't work.
	You can't do it.
	Anyway.
	Lawyers for the families who sued Mr. Jones in Texas favored a settlement in which you would pay them a percentage of his income over the next decade, most likely netting more money for each relative, which is the legitimate way to go about doing it.
	As a condition of the latter deal, Mr. Jones would have had to agree never to mention the shooting again.
	The asset sale is probably the least lucrative option for the family members.
	Though its potential for shutting down Infowars appealed to some, juries in the two lawsuits awarded individual relatives widely varying amounts.
	And lawyers from Connecticut and Texas sides have been dueling over how to fairly allocate the money.
	I think it's hilarious the families are fighting over money.
	That's insane.
	The situation is further complicated by the fact that a jury has yet to decide how much damage Mr. Jones must pay to Lenny Posner and Veronica de la Rosa, whose son Noah Posner died in the shooting.
	Should be interesting.
	I think there are a lot of issues with the case, but I think we're well past going over the merits of the case at this point.
	Alex Jones certainly has his free speech, but all that really matters is you can't shut him down.
	Now, Owen Shroyer has issued a public statement on the shutting down of InfoWars, and I'll play some of that for you now.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Alright guys, I've been getting a lot of messages about the breaking news about InfoWars, so I figured I would come on here and just make a public statement.
		Let me start with this.
		I've never been more proud of the work that I've done at InfoWars.
		You see, when I left sports media in 2016 to get into political commentary, it was InfoWars that invited me in.
		It was InfoWars that offered me a job.
		I was an anti-government guy.
		I was an anti-lying media guy.
		I was an anti-lying politician guy.
		And quite frankly, for somebody like me to break into the political media like that was not an easy thing to do and there weren't really platforms out there that would host a guy like me or eventually give me a show and allow me to create my own content in the way that I see fit.
		But InfoWars did.
		And it's now total confirmation that I made the right decision.
		And let me tell you, It was a decision that came with a lot of consequences.
		Some obvious.
		I was put in prison.
		I've been sued multiple times.
		I've been attacked.
		I've been assaulted.
		I've been censored across the internet.
		I get blackballed from pretty much, or have been in the past, from pretty much all conservative outlets.
		But you notice that the narrative is changing.
		You notice that everybody sounds like Infowars now.
		You notice that everybody wants to have Alex Jones on now.
unidentified		Yep.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Because they're realizing Alex Jones and Infowars were not censored, were not attacked, and now as of today, being shut down and liquidated, not for lying, but for telling the truth.
		Because you see, if it was for lying, then wouldn't it be the mainstream media on trial?
		Trump-Russia collusion, Hunter Biden laptop is fake, vaccines are safe and effective, weapons of mass destruction.
		Should I go on?
		So no, I've never been more proud of my work at InfoWars than I am today.
		I've never had total confirmation that I joined the right team of telling the truth and anti-corruption media than today when I joined InfoWars.
		And now, yet again at this level of the InfoWars saga, people will see How the First Amendment and free speech is under attack and all the weapons they will use against Americans to try to take your rights from you and shut you down if you won't be silenced.
		Now that's all I'm going to say on this.
		I'm not going to comment on the court developments or the legalese.
		I would advise you to tune into the Alex Jones Show tomorrow.
		This is his company.
		This is his story.
		I was just honored to be a part of it.
		But stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
		We're in a fight for the future of this country.
		We're in a fight for freedom.
		We're in a fight for truth.
		And it's never been more proof positive that I made the right decision in that choice to join InfoWars, and I've never been more proud of the work I've done at InfoWars than I am today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll give a little pushback, you know, with all due respect to Owen, who we have on the show.
		I like him.
		He's a good dude.
		Alex Jones got sued because, for a long time, he was pushing insane theories about Sandy Hook.
		And it's just—it's too much, you know, even for me.
		But he apologized.
		I don't think destroying his company, firing all his employees—I mean, this is going to put people out of work.
		And then selling off his equipment is how you remedy this.
		I don't even think that $1.4 billion makes sense.
		I mean, it's an absurdity.
		Now, there are certainly questions.
		Alex Jones made the argument that they held him in default.
		He didn't even actually get a trial on the defamation.
		No matter how many documents he gave, they kept saying he wasn't giving them the real documents.
		There are a lot of problems here, that I will admit.
		You know, for the corporate press, the issue is institutional power.
		You know, so he says in a statement, it's not because he lied, it's because he told the truth.
		Well, certainly not in regard to Sandy Hook, but that was the attack vector they used to go after him.
		And Alex Jones has been right about a lot of other things, though he's been wrong about some very bad things, namely Sandy Hook.
		And which, again, his words, he apologized.
		He said he was wrong about it.
		The corporate press does not have massive institutionalized enemies.
		And so they do lie about a lot of things.
		And, uh, for this, we exist to call them out.
		Shows like Alex's, you know, when he gets it right, and he's gotten terrifyingly, like, Epstein.
		Let's just talk about that.
		When he gets it right, it's kind of scary, right?
		And just like this one, we call out the lies frequently.
		I gotta give Alex Jones a big shout out too, because I remember, I think it was October of 2021, Alex went on his show and said, there's going to be a war in February.
		It's coming.
		They are going to have war.
		It's going to be big.
		And then war started.
		Russia invaded Ukraine.
		And everybody went, Alex, how did you know?
		And the funniest thing, I was talking to Alex about it and he was like, I don't even know why I was just reading the news.
		It's just reading a news story.
		This is the craziest thing about all this.
		You know, people say like, oh, Tim talks about civil war.
		I'm like, I'm just reading New York times, man.
		Leave me out of it.
		I read the New York times.
		They said this thing.
		I read the Atlantic.
		They said this thing.
		I read the Hill.
		They said this thing.
		And I went, wow, that's crazy.
		And then people were like, Tim, why are you saying that?
		I'm like, I just read the news.
		Alex Jones was talking about a looming war, and he was like, there were a bunch of news reports talking about a building up of weapons, fears of a conflict escalating in Eastern Europe, and there were intelligence individuals giving quotes saying they fear a war is coming in spring.
		And so he did a show, and he's like, people, I gotta tell you, a war is coming, okay?
		And everyone's surprised that Alex just read the New York Times or something.
		That's what I think is really funny about all of it.
		You know, that often they say it's conspiracy theories.
		He's a liar.
		And that's what they do to Trump, too.
unidentified		They do this to Trump, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump, famously, I love this.
		This was during COVID.
		And so again, I'll say this as we get into the old COVID stuff.
		You always go to talk to a medical doctor.
		Don't trust internet personalities on what they tell you about your health or whatever, because there's this really funny commercial where a guy's like, I got shredded on the hot dog diet.
		And it's like, some lady's arms exploded.
		She got rhabdomyolysis or something from doing CrossFit.
		And I'm like, her arms were swollen, her muscles were breaking down, and it was poisoning her kidneys.
		Just go to a doctor and make sure, you know, it's a doctor you trust.
		Because even like, not all doctors are good.
		Some doctors are not good.
		Okay.
		But what was I talking about?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what happens is, this news comes out, I think it was TechCrunch.
		And they're like, doctors investigate hydroxychloroquine as a possible treatment for COVID.
		And so then Trump comes out and he's like, you know, we've got these treatments.
		You got ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.
		We're going to look into them and could be very good.
unidentified		The studies, they're very good so far.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then what happens is the media comes out and says Trump pushes horse dewormer and fish cleaner as cure.
		And you're like, wait, hold on.
		Now, I'm not going to tell you I know anything about hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin.
		I'm not a doctor.
		I have no idea.
		I'm just saying it was TechCrunch and other public news outlets that were saying, hey, they're doing studies on these things.
		Not that they were definitive.
		Not that they worked.
		There's been a lot of studies saying they don't work.
		Whatever.
		And Trump just brings it up like, look at this.
		It's good information.
		Like, hey, maybe there's some promise here.
		And the media comes out and says, Trump's a liar.
		It's horse dewormer.
		And I'm like, Trump just read the news, man.
		And then take a look at what CNN did with You know what I loved?
		I think it might have been CNN or MSNBC, when they talked about Joe Rogan and Ivermectin, they showed a little horse.
unidentified		It was the weirdest thing!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made Joe Rogan look sickly.
		Remember that one?
		The viral video where Joe's all pale and green like, ugh, I'm taking Ivermectin or whatever.
		And then Joe was like, what the?
		Why did they do that to me?
		And then when they were talking about it, in the video, it's like Ivermectin does not do this, does not do that.
		And there was a picture of a little horse.
		Like, why did you do that?
		Ivermectin is a known treatment for eye parasites.
		It's a deworming agent.
		And it is given to horses.
		They get these tubes and they jam in the horse's mouth and squeeze the tube and the horses love it!
		Gooey, apple-flavored Ivermectin!
		The horses go nuts for it.
		But that doesn't mean it's not just a general drug.
		I mean, you can prescribe general antibiotics to dogs and cats, like vets do, smaller quantities.
		You know, when Mr. Bocas, our cat, was sick, some of the drugs he was getting were completely recognizable.
		To me, they were just in very tiny doses.
		Very itty-bitty doses for little itty-bitty kiddies, right?
		I just think the whole thing is absolutely hilarious.
		That's where we got to.
		That you can actually read the news, but if they don't like you, they'll then claim the news is fake.
		Because what we learn from all of this is that it's not about what's true.
		What it's about is controlling and isolating.
		The woke cult believes whatever crackpot BS they're told to believe, One day it's up, one day it's down.
		One day here's news, the next day that's fake news.
		And that was the funny thing about the Trump era, is that if Trump repeated a news story, they'd come out later and say it was fake news, and he made it up.
		My favorite example I love to cite for you guys, and you know this one, is when Politico reported that Ukraine was trying to help Hillary Clinton win the 2016 election.
		Now, I'm just going to pull this one up for you.
		I got to do it because a lot of people was going to say, you know, I don't believe you, Tim.
		That's, that's not true.
		You're a liar.
		Here it is.
		Politico.
		Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.
		Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office.
		They even disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide.
		How about that one?
		And then we have, um, let's see if I can find this one.
		No, I don't think I will.
		I think we will just read the news.
		how both stories exist. And here it is. What's it what's it trying to do here? Politico get more what you need from
		Politico? No, I don't think I will. I think we will just read
		the news. So here's the perfect example of how this thing works.
		So here's a story from Natasha Bertrand, excellent work to Bertrand and our good friend Kenneth P Vogel and David
		I think y'all need to have a sit-down conversation about this one.
		Because while in 2017 they reported Politico, Politico.com, Ukraine sabotaged Trump and helped Hillary, on January 22nd, 2020, Natasha Bertrand writes, let's see, Three weeks after Election Day, the Kremlin officially floated a theory that would ultimately lead to only the third presidential impeachment.
		Ukraine seriously complicated the work of Trump's election by planting information aimed at damaging his campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.
		A spokesman for Russia's foreign ministry told reporters, accusing the Ukrainian government
		of scheming to help elect Hillary Clinton.
		Trump by the time was busy staffing up his campaign, Russian officials offered no evidence
		on that day or any other day that it was really Kiev, not Moscow, that meddled in the election.
		Nor have U.S. intelligence agencies backed off on their collective finding that Kremlin
		blah blah blah.
		So you tell me, Natasha Bertrand, how you're too stupid to do a Google search of your own
		company's website.
		These are both politico.com.
		Neither stories have been retracted.
		Welcome to the modern media.
		And this is the game they play.
		So when, in 2017, they definitively state... I mean, you know, I gotta be honest.
		I think there needs to be some kind of... Is there civil action that can be brought against Politico?
		Can we highlight this somehow?
		I bring this up all the time because this exemplifies the corporate press, the problems in the corporate press, perfectly.
	The fact that such stories could exist simultaneously on the exact same website is the problem this country faces.
	Where are the professors?
	We're the journalism professors to be like, man, there's dis- and misinformation problem.
	Politico, what are you doing?
	Retract the story at the very least!
	Look at this.
	Russia's efforts were personally directed by Vladimir Putin.
	The Ukrainian effort had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort's resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump's campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine's vote of East Russia.
	But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia's alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.
	Politico's investigation found evidence of Ukrainian government involvement in the race that appears to strain diplomatic protocol, dictating that governments refrain from engaging in one another's elections.
	Politico says they investigated and had evidence, and then later said, there is no evidence!
	These people are incorrigible.
	Incorrigible!
	And they have the nerve to insult Alex Jones.
	Okay.
	Well, as I long said, my friends, the corporate press is full of lies, and you've got to weed through them.
	And this is why I bring up stories like this.
	We do our best.
	I can't tell you which one of these stories is true, because Well, they both exist on Politico.
	But there's actually a much more simple answer.
	Politico has no credibility.
	So, you know, how can we navigate this stuff?
	There's no easy answer, but I try every day.
	So if you appreciate the work we're doing, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this video, share this show with all your friends, post it where you can, that really does help.
	And this one too, especially the Politico stories.
	Ask people.
	Explain it to me, how this is the state of the media in this country.
	You can follow me on X at TimCast.
	Next segment will be coming up at 4 p.m.
	on this channel.
	Smash that like button, and we will see you all in that next segment.
	And for the rest of years, we're going to read your superchats.
	And then I think we've got, uh, what's the next story we got lined up?
	What do we have?
	We have the, uh, the police story, don't we?
	What do we have?
	Yeah.
	Violent crimes and cops in Seattle.
	Seattle cops are no longer responding to alarm calls anymore.
unidentified		Oh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's kind of worrying.
		And then let's see what else we got lined up.
		We've got, we got this potential.
		Gen Z workers are getting fired early, within months of getting their jobs.
		Apparently what they're saying is that these kids in college, they're not learning how to work or function properly in society.
		I actually don't, I'm actually very concerned about Gen Z, because I believe they're being sabotaged.
		But let's, let's grab some of this.
		What do we got?
		Clark Rouse says, Alex Jones and Steven Crowder are already working together, so I bet Crowder will definitely make a bit on InfoWars.
		When InfoWars shuts down, Alex Jones will still be there, he'll still have a big platform, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop him.
unidentified		What do you do?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
		Freeman Dye Freeze says, Reminder, the man photographed fleeing into the woods and being pursued by LEOs after the Sandhook shooting was never captured or investigated.
		I don't know.
		Don't know enough about it.
		Alright, let's see, what do we have here?
		Ben Smith says Alex Jones is good at reading the writing on the wall, and that if he becomes a stockbroker, he would be a billionaire.
		I agree, absolutely.
		Alright, Deluded Devil says, how do I change the mind of family who have TDS?
		Well, it's really difficult because they're suffering from a paranoid delusional state.
		So, my approach is always, by all means, Trump is bad, that's fantastic, you know, whatever.
		Like, you're allowed to hate Trump, I'm not gonna tell you not to hate him.
		Let them be angry.
		But ask them other questions.
		Say, I get it, but do you, like, you know, yeah, you know, Trump did those things, but do you really, like, believe the media is telling you the truth all the time about everything else?
		And the question is, we can agree To disagree on Trump.
		I mean, here's how I'd approach someone if they had Trump derangement syndrome.
		I'd just be like, yeah, absolutely.
		I hear ya.
		Those are bad things.
		That's crazy.
		What do we do, though, outside of Trump, right?
		You've got a country that's deeply divided.
		You've got, for instance, with the Biden-Obama administration, you had war crimes.
		And if they get really angry about it, be like, this is not controversial.
		Like, support Bernie Sanders.
		I don't care your support, but Barack Obama killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, 16-year-old American citizen in Yemen.
		We're not at war with Yemen.
		They blew up a civilian restaurant.
		Why would they do that?
		How do we stop all of it?
		You know, my question to people is, I guess it's probable that you're never going to break someone out of TDS.
		One thing you can do, though, is you've probably got to move their reasonable boundaries and get them to watch other shows.
		So, you know, never approach as an adversary.
		That inflames tensions and people double down.
		Maybe ask them questions about how the media lied.
		You know, the Politico thing, I think, is big.
		Politico's reporting both things.
		So maybe at first you don't say, Trump is good and you're wrong.
		You say, yeah, whatever.
		I mean, people don't like Trump.
		I get it.
		And then say, My bigger concern is, you know, how we deal with a corporate press that, like, runs contradictory stories and then confuses people.
		Most people are going to agree, to a certain degree.
		And then you can show them the political stories.
		Be like, look at these two stories.
		They both say the opposite things.
		Like, which one's true?
		How are we supposed to know?
		Maybe once you can plant the seed, not that they're wrong, but that here's this issue, they might start investigating the news and it could open the door.
		Don't know, though.
		Stu Bird says, how many people were injured by CNN's fake news?
		Hands up, don't shoot.
		A lot.
		Nick C says, Nick from FitCast IRL, I may not be a skater myself, is it possible to buy a board, but have TimCast give those to kids who wouldn't be able to afford?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, when you order from the website, it's an automated shipping thing.
		It goes into a roster that gets sent a distribution.
		So we do have a bunch of promo boards we're going to be giving away.
		So order a board for yourself, and we'll make sure to get one of our promo boards out to the local park to some kid who needs it.
		So we got a bunch of boards.
		We're going to be giving a bunch of them out.
		We have like a thousand, I think, early promo boards.
		A hundred boards go to the first 100 members of boonieshq.com.
		So go to boonieshq.com.
		Separate.
		We're keeping this membership separate from Timcast because the membership is going to function very differently.
		What we're trying to do is, when we do digital contests, we want the members to be the community that judges.
		So I think it's important that people sign up for that.
		And it is a much more expensive project.
		It's very difficult to do.
		It's a big cultural endeavor.
		But we're gonna try and keep our podcasts and the and you know, all that roped into one core membership.
		So You know, we're trying.
		A. Ashatu says Muslim mayor Amir Ghalib endorses Donald Trump, calling him a man of principles.
		Indeed, that's very good.
		Well, ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about the current state of crime in this country.
		We got this from the Postmillennial.
		Seattle cops won't respond to alarm calls without supporting evidence, police chief.
		With depleted resources, we cannot prioritize a patrol response when there is very low probability that criminal activity is taking place.
		Welcome to the end of your blue cities.
		I have no idea how we navigate this.
		Now this story's big.
		Why?
		Because the huge news the other day was the FBI claims that violent crime declined in 2020.
		Look at this awful website.
		AP, your website is awful.
		Very bad.
		FBI finds violent crime declined in 2023.
		Here's what to know.
		It's not true, by the way.
		They didn't find that crime declined.
		This is a lie.
		Let me break it down for you.
		The FBI found that reported crimes, reporting on crimes, is down, and that police agencies, many of them, are no longer participating in crime reporting.
		Now, what happens is the corporate press, because they're evil, politically motivated, and want to trick you, put out these statements.
		Violent crime declined.
		No, reported violent crime declined.
		That's what we know.
		And agencies are not reporting.
		So, yeah, likely crime is going up.
		You tell me how to reconcile these things.
		Seattle cops don't want to respond to alarm calls without evidence.
		So police are less likely to respond.
		In California, if the crime, if the theft doesn't exceed $900 and some odd dollars, they don't go after these people.
		You tell me how that translates to crime is going down.
		It's illogical.
		I mean, the left likes the narrative because they can say, see?
		Policing is bad.
		However, what do we see in Philadelphia?
		You got rings of fire, flamethrowers, cops getting attacked.
		Oh boy.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's start with the Postmillennials story.
		They say, Seattle police will no longer respond to calls from alarm companies unless there is supporting evidence of a crime.
		According to a September 13th letter from the interim Seattle police chief, Sue Rahr, Beginning October 1st, SPD will only dispatch officers to calls from alarm companies if there is supporting evidence of a crime such as audio, video, panic alarms, or eyewitnesses that a person is illegally entering or attempting to enter a residence or commercial property.
		So what, is Brinks going out of business or leaving the state because now they're worthless?
		Ra wrote, With depleted resources, we cannot prioritize a patrol response when there is a very low probability that criminal activity is taking place.
		SPD has lost over 700 officers since they began defunding the police in 2020 in response to the George Floyd riots.
		Seattle 911 Center receives approximately 13,000 annual residential and commercial burglary alarm calls from monitoring companies.
		And according to RAR, most of those calls are due to an unintended sensor trip by a homeowner or business employee, while others are the result of old or failing equipment.
		And you know what, I got to tell you, they're not completely wrong.
		But imagine this.
		So we got alarms.
		I don't want to get too much into our security.
		We always get responses.
		Could you imagine?
		You have an alarm set up specifically so that if there's a burglary or fire or otherwise, first responders will get there.
		And then they say, yeah, but we're too concerned about the likelihood is low.
		There's an emergency.
		So we just won't go anyway.
		Why even bother having the alarm anymore?
		People are going to switch to cameras now.
		In 2023, less than 4% of the calls were confirmed to have a crime associated with them that resulted in an arrest or report being written.
		But let's pause right there.
		If someone breaks into my house and the police show up, they might say, was anything taken?
		It could be like some small things, I don't know.
		And they're going to say, do we really need a report for this?
		We're not going to find the guy.
		And a lot of people will just say, nah, I guess not.
		Some people will say, I need the police report for my insurance.
		But if someone breaks into your house, the alarm goes off.
		And the cops show up and then you say, I don't know if anything was taken.
		I don't know what happened.
		Somebody ran off.
		I saw him running.
		They're going to be like, okay, well, like, what are we doing here?
		I once had a, uh, a theft and, um, I called the police at a motorcycle stolen and the police were like, so, uh, what do you want us to do?
		And I said, can you help me find the bike?
		And they were like, they're like, kid, do you really think we're going to find your bike?
		And then I was like, I don't know.
		And they're like, there's no way.
		Okay.
		They stole your motorcycle, brought it to the chop shop, ripped the shell off, painted it.
		And this thing is identical to a thousand other bikes.
		I'm sorry, dude, your bike is gone.
		Do you really want us to write it up?
		And I was like, I guess, I don't know.
		And they're like, we will.
		Okay, fine.
		I can't remember exactly if we ended up riding it up or not.
		I think what ended up happening was they just told me, uh, there's nothing they can do about it.
		Have a nice day.
		And I was pissed, too, because... So I had a 149cc bike, and it fit perfectly in my apartment building in this, like, uh, in this area.
		It didn't obstruct anybody.
		It was in the corner of, like, I don't know how you describe the room.
		It was like a back stairwell area.
		And then one day the landlord put up a sign saying, keep your motorcycle out of the stairwell area.
		And I'm like, it's like under the stairs away from everybody.
		And it's like not a living area or anything like that.
		I said, fine.
		So I brought it outside and I locked it up with a bike lock instead and then woke up the next day and it was gone.
		So I was pissed because I could not afford that.
		It was a thousand dollar little bike and it was fun.
		It was how I got around.
		And you know, and then I found out the police wouldn't do anything about it, couldn't do anything about it, and that's just it, that's Chicago.
		Crime happens, you can't do anything about it.
	This is where we're going, my friends.
	Violent crime, they say, declined.
	What about property crimes?
	Do you expect me to believe this?
	When my friends in Chicago are saying it's worse than it's ever been, and they've lived there their whole lives?
	The reality is, as I brought up the other day with the Marshall Project, police agencies are not reporting to the FBI what's actually going on.
	So you mean to tell me that Seattle's saying we're not even going to bother?
	So look at this way, 4%, this means about 1 in 25 burglary alarms is a legit, serious crime that needs to be stopped.
	And they're saying, eh, not good enough for us.
	Doesn't cross the threshold.
	We need proof a crime is being committed beyond a burglary alarm going off.
	Komo News said, the verified response policy has been tried and rejected numerous times, including by cities such as Dallas, Texas, San Jose.
	It goes against best practices established through a collaborative effort by the International Association of Chiefs of Police and National Sheriff's Association.
	The new policy will affect over 75,000 alarm sites in Seattle.
	I gotta tell you, if you got any one of these big companies, talk to them.
	I'm assuming, you know, not to single out Brinks, they may do more than just these alarms, but whatever companies.
	They're useless!
	If the police ain't coming, why bother having any sensors at all?
	What you're gonna have to do now is install cameras in every single room of your business.
	We actually have cameras in every single room of this business.
	No joke.
	Aside from the fact that I'm looking at a camera and I'm filming this, every room has 24-7 live-streamed security cameras.
	Now, I'm not gonna get into great detail on our entire security protocol, because that would be stupid.
	But, while we also have sensors, and we'll know if someone trips and breaks in, there are cameras pointed at everything.
	And we have secret cameras, too.
	We'll let people know that one.
	That one I'm okay with them knowing about.
	So, this is what you're supposed to do with security, right?
	We have the very obvious cameras that film every room, wide angle, 24-7, you can pull it up online, we check these things.
	And then we have secret cameras that are not visible.
	There's the obvious ones we use for the studio, but there are a lot of people that will try and think they're gonna find, uh, uh... We want people to know you're being filmed if you break in here.
	We got ya.
	And then we can even see you leavin', and comin' and goin'.
	But we also wanna make sure that anyone who tries to find blind spots is just walking into, like, there are no blind spots, I'll put it that way.
	And so the hidden cameras are because sometimes people might try to, they'll still be on camera, and they try to create a plausible deniability thing by, I'll give you an example.
	When drug dealers are drug dealing, they don't walk over and say, here's the money for the drugs.
	They put it in their palm, and they shake hands, and then swap.
	Balled up money, balled up drugs, handshake.
	Because they know they're being watched.
	A secret angle might show you that before he closed his hand, he had the drug.
	So that's why we also have cameras that are not visible, right?
	That's the point.
	And audio.
	Like, we have all that stuff.
	I gotta tell you, that's why we have a big sign saying, like, everything you say and do is recorded here.
	It's a production studio where we're filming 24-7.
	None of it's a secret.
	But where we're currently at right now is this country is facing a spike in crime, and they're lying about it.
	Now, there's the FBI saying violent crime is down.
	And then there's the people, and the people are saying it's worse than I've ever seen.
	So you choose which one you want to believe.
	Which do you want to believe?
	Honest question.
	Do you want to believe that the FBI is right?
	Well, the Marshall Project says that police aren't reporting crimes to the FBI, so these numbers are inaccurate.
	The Democrats are saying crime is down.
	They're trying to get re-elected.
	The funny thing about all of it is, you ain't gonna convince someone who's experiencing it.
	So if I live in Chicago, you know my friends do, and they say crime is bad, And then I'm gonna say, no, it's not.
	Crime's fine.
	Democrats said so.
	They're gonna say, you're nuts.
	I'll tell you one of the crazier things is that one of my buddies on the South side hit me up and he was just like, just wanna let you know we're all voting for Trump.
	And I'm like, really?
	I was like, all the old homies?
	It's like, yeah, 90% Trump. 90%.
	South side of Chicago, working class, near the airport by Midway, and they're saying that it's basically all like moderate MAGA country.
	Not super diehard Trumpers, but they are just not on board with Kamala and Biden.
	They're upset with the way things are going.
	The crime is through the roof, and they're just sick of it.
	And I was talking to another guy from Chicago, too.
	He said it's a nightmare now.
	The crime, 13-year-old gangbangers running around with guns, and you don't even know what's going on.
	Sad to hear it, man.
	Sad to hear it.
	But maybe it's a wake-up call.
	After a hundred years of Democrat rule, maybe people will finally wake up and say, we need political competition.
	So we'll get to all that.
	But there is this big story here with the Marcellus Williams, which I'll mention a little bit, maybe later on.
	Missouri executes a man for the 1998 killing of a woman despite her family's call to spare his life.
	Let's talk about the death penalty.
	I have long complained of the death penalty, but we'll do this one as a bonus segment.
	And for now, we'll go to your Super Chat.
	So smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with all of your friends.
	Next segment will be at 6 p.m.
	Gen Z's getting fired!
	Uh-oh.
	This is bad news for us.
	I know people want to gloat and say, ah, the young people ain't working.
	Nah, this is bad news for us.
	Thanks for hanging out.
	Follow me on X at TimCast.
	Subscribe, become a member at TimCast.com, and we'll see you all in the next segment.
	And, uh, we'll grab some more here.
	We'll grab some more here.
	Some super chats.
	X88 says, Corporate media doesn't realize it's creating a whole generation of BS detectors.
	The youth I interact with are all aware of the lies.
	Dude, legit.
	Young people that I talk to, basically, like, apolitical or otherwise, are just like, the media's just fake anyway.
	And I think it's because of how the media lied about a lot of influencers, and they trust the influencers more.
	So... Today, I got these awesome Vault Energy drinks.
	Shout out to Vault.
	It's a ketone, no sugar, no caffeine energy drink.
unidentified		And my pneuma.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Give me a second while I take a quick drink so I can keep talking.
		Giovanni Garcia says, Tim, it was me, I took your bike.
		Now, I think I know who it was.
		I think I know who took my bike.
		There was a gang.
		They stalk the areas looking for motorcycles and then make a plan and then go and grab them.
		Then they chop them up.
		Nothing you can do about it.
		So I decided, you know what?
		A 149cc was not the way to go.
		What's the way to go?
		It's heavy.
		It's hard to secure inside because they're big.
		And I was kind of, I thought it was mad.
		So it was a stairwell.
		It was like, you know what I'm talking about?
		I was like, I don't know what, like 15 feet by 15 feet.
		Is that about right?
		With the stairwell that goes up and I put it around like under the stairs.
		There's nobody in there.
		It's not a living space.
		It's like a back entrance stairwell.
		And they were like, do not put this in here.
		How dare you?
		And I was like, Fine, I guess.
		I'm like, okay, you know, it's not a garage.
		I get that.
		Fine.
		And then it got stolen right away.
		So that was awful.
		But I ended up buying a bicycle with a 49cc motor attached to the back of it.
		and I just drove that around.
		And it got me where I needed to go.
		You could pedal it like normal, and then I could press a button and kick the engine on,
		and then go uphill with it.
		And I'm like, it goes the same speed.
		The other one went faster, and I could go on the highway and stuff,
		but you really don't wanna go on the highway with it.
		Scariest thing ever, T-shirt, shorts, no glasses, no helmet, 60 miles an hour on a 149 scooter,
		and I'm like on the highway, and there's big gaps in the road,
		like three to four inches and I'm like, I gotta jump it.
		Like, when I'm getting onto I-55, I'd have to, like, do a quick jolt to the left to hop over the gap, otherwise I'd flip over.
		Reckless.
		That's what being a young man is all about.
		Just plumb don't care.
		Because it's like, I ain't got anything else going on for me, what am I supposed to do about it?
		Reckless indeed.
		Reckless indeed.
		Jeremy Case has been a member and listener since 2018, First Super Chip, was thinking, buy Alex's gear and donate it back to him.
		I actually think it's going to be a big challenge, right?
		We're talking about probably tens of millions of dollars, maybe $100 million worth of equipment.
		And some of these cameras are like $20,000.
		So I certainly don't have the capacity to do much, but a community could.
		Here's the problem.
		If you buy Alex's equipment and then give it to him, they will seize it again.
		No joke.
		They will just seize it outright.
		They'll say, anything he's got will be seized to pay off these debts.
		What I think is likely to happen is that people may buy it, start, like I said, 20-year-old kid who's got credit card debts, and their net worth is negative 5,000, goes on LegalZoom, because it's credit card debt, uses their credit card to file an LLC, and then says, hey, Alex, you want to be a reporter for me?
		I'll pay you what I can pay you when money comes in.
		Alex says, sure.
		Alex makes content.
		It makes a lot of money.
		He then pays Alex.
	And if anyone sues that company and it falls apart, he just goes, I don't know.
	I'm not worth anything anyway.
	I don't have any money.
	The company is just gone.
	There's no equipment.
	He could use a phone.
	So then?
	Start another one!
	There's just literally nothing you can do.
	You can't stop someone from speaking.
	I definitely want to talk about this execution because I am livid.
unidentified		Livid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But, I am a reasonable man, and I do like A.G.
		Bailey, who is one of the principal reasons, according to reports, as to why the execution happened, despite prosecution and the victim's family saying, we do not want the execution to happen.
		So we'll go into the story.
		I don't know why...
		I genuinely don't know why the right is so on board with killing this guy.
		I don't get it.
		The family, the victim, the family of the victim said, don't kill him.
		And people on the right are like, not kill him, kill him anyway.
		And it's like, well, hold on.
		Like, we gotta have a serious conversation.
		If the victim's family is saying no, shouldn't we say, well, okay, you know, justice is served, and it serves the interest of those who are victimized in the crimes.
		The response being society is victimized, et cetera, et cetera.
		We'll get into that.
		But first, we're gonna run this segment about Gen Z being failures.
		Sorry, but this is what's happening.
		Take a look at this report.
		Let's roll.
		We got this one from the Daily Mail.
		Bosses are firing Gen Z workers in record time.
		Yeah.
		Checks out.
		Now hold on there, man.
		I'm a big Gen Z proponent.
		I'm a fan of Gen Z. Gen Z is the only thing that matters right now.
		Okay, not really.
		Gen Alpha matters a little bit more than Gen Z, but I'll tell you this.
		I'm 38.
		Alright.
		So, I'm in my time, as I would describe it.
		As a 38-year-old, I've got probably, I think, a good reasonable, I don't know, maybe 27 years, where I think it's reasonable for me to be heavily involved in the industry, running the things that I run, and working, until I, like, retire and say, you know, look, I'm an older guy, all the people start dying out, and you gotta hand everything down to the younger generation.
		That being said, as someone who is 38, there's a reason why you and I, as individuals of this age or older, there's a reason why we do what we do.
		This is the purpose of life in society.
		Our job, as young people, when we're in our 20s, is to do the work to help maintain these machines, develop resources, raise our families, and build.
		Once we get a little bit older, We are to maintain these machines but be leaders to the younger generation to show them how it's done.
		To provide them with an opportunity to take over.
		Once I'm in my sixties or whatever, I can be a professor or whatever, talk about my experiences, consult, share information that may be beneficial to the younger generation.
		But the older you get, the more of what you do is for the younger generation.
		And so, If Gen Z workers are failing and being fired, we're in serious trouble.
		They will inherit the reins of society.
		And if they don't know what they're doing, society falls.
		And that is our fault as an older generation.
		I'm not going to blame millennials for everything, but millennials do suck, by the way.
		And everyone always goes, but Tim, you're a millennial.
		Yeah, I know.
		And millennials suck.
		Come on.
		We're allowed to say that because we're millennials, right?
		The millennial generation is largely entitled and lazy.
		Gen Z is a little bit better.
		But there is a problem with Gen Z workers not being prepared adequately by the older generations.
		They should be able to have houses, white picket fences, and families.
		And hearing that they're getting fired in record numbers is not good for anybody.
		Nobody should be gloating.
		We should be worried about this.
		Let's read.
		They say companies are axing Gen Z workers just months after hiring them fresh from college, a new report has found.
		Six in ten employers had already fired some college graduates they had recruited earlier in the year, a survey conducted by Intelligent.com found.
		One in seven, the employer said, they might also not hire fresh college grads next year after finding a raft of problems with young workers.
		I'm going to pause and say the problem is college.
		There you go.
		Business leaders listed concerns in areas such as communication skills and professionalism that made them wary of hiring Gen Z. They also said that workers of that age are often unmotivated and need to be constantly told what to do rather than using their initiative.
		It's another issue.
		That's college, not Gen Z. I got stories for you.
		Some you may have heard.
	Many recent college graduates may struggle with entering the workforce for the first time as it can be a huge contrast from what they were used to throughout their education journey.
	Remember when I told you guys this 7 years ago?
	Remember when I told you this stuff 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 years ago?
	They are often unprepared for a less structured environment, workplace cultural dynamics, and the expectation of autonomous work.
	Three quarters of companies surveyed said some or all of the recent graduate hires were unsatisfactory in some way.
	Half said their Gen Z hires had a lack of motivation, making them difficult to work with.
	The survey was posted on Reddit.
	Under the subject, companies are quickly firing Gen Z employees, prompting one user to write, yeah, checks out.
	However, HR consultant Brian Driscoll argues that it's not just young employees that are presenting a problem, but the education system itself, which is not preparing its graduates for the working world.
	College is the problem.
	Stop sending your kids to these institutions which rot their brains and make them incapable of holding jobs and preparing themselves for the world.
	I've been warning about this forever.
	One wrote, as a millennial working with Gen Zs, I have to admit that I've told a couple not to wear their bizarre, trendy, dirty, 90-fillas to work.
	I literally never thought that would have been appropriate in an office environment as a young person.
	One said, they have issues showing up every day where I work, so it's mainly attendance problems.
	They've been purposefully putting out videos being like, half-assed it on purpose, don't even bother.
	What do they call it?
	There's a term for this.
	They had a phrase where it was something about doing the bare minimum and only showing up when they make you do it.
	As someone who went through years of education, including law school, I can tell you this.
	Colleges are not preparing students for real world work.
	All right.
	Story time, because not everybody has heard these stories.
	I'll give a couple more of these quotes.
	Education today emphasizes theory over practice.
	Sure, learning Greek mythology is fascinating, but unless you're teaching it, how does that prepare you to communicate effectively in a corporate meeting?
	Instead of teaching new hires what they want from them, employers are simply firing workers for not being prepared.
	It's a cyclical issue that reflects systemic failure on multiple levels.
	Alright, let's start with story number one.
	Some of you may know this.
	Quit quitting.
	Quiet quitting.
	That's what it was.
	Quiet quitting.
	That's what it was called.
	Quiet quitting was where you decided you would no longer do the work, but you would do nothing and keep collecting money until they were forced to let you go.
	Yeah, quiet quitting.
	Awful.
	Here's a story for you.
	I worked for a company.
	And they told me, you should hire somebody.
	You'll need someone who can coordinate and work with you, a producer, et cetera, et cetera.
	I said, okay.
	And so I had a friend, and they were brilliant, and they had a couple degrees, and I said, oh, here we go, I know this person.
	And so I said, hey, do you wanna do this job?
	Here's what you gotta do.
	And they said yes.
	And then they couldn't do it.
	It was funny because there would be some administrative error.
	And they'd reach out to me and be like, hey, I'm having an error here.
	And I'd be like, figure it out.
	And they'd say, I don't know how to do it.
	And I said, so figure it out.
	And they were like, I'd, what, how, how do I?
	And I'm like, are you joking?
	I don't run these systems.
	I'm in the field filming.
	Your job is to do the administrative backend so that the office liaises with you for the administrative paperwork and things like this.
	And they were just like, no one taught me how to do it.
	And I said, uh-huh.
	You need to figure it out.
	If I knew how to do it, I wouldn't have hired you.
	And so it eventually came to a breaking point where ultimately I was like, dude, I don't know if you should be fired because you can't figure this job out.
	But if you're saying that you can't figure it out, maybe you should work in the mailroom where there's nothing to figure out.
	And it was kind of funny.
	You know what I learned from this?
	Is that colleges are... If someone goes to school their whole life and then goes to college and then gets a job, the only thing they know how to do is what they are told.
	See, there's a story I have for you.
	There's a buddy of mine who was running a marketing company, and I know many of you may have heard this story, but it's pertinent to this for those that haven't heard it, so...
	He hired a couple college grads to run social media, and they failed.
	They kept calling him, what do we do?
	Oh no, one of our clients made a mistake on social media, it's getting out of hand.
	And he'd tell them, like, just handle it, and they'd be like, I don't know how.
	You're fired.
	The job was to manage social media accounts, you don't know how to do it, you shouldn't work here.
	Like, I'm not gonna hire a plumber to be a carpenter, you know what I mean?
	If you don't know how to do it, what are you doing here?
	I had another couple college grads, same problem, hired another, same problem.
	And he told me, he's like, I ran out of money. I kept hiring these people and they weren't doing
	the job and it was costing me money and my budget was going down and my revenue was going down.
	And I was like, holy crap, if I'm going to keep this business going, I need to hire somebody.
	So he said he went on Craigslist and just said no longer did he look for a college degree.
	I can't afford to pay these salaries anymore.
	They screwed it all up.
	So he said, 12 bucks an hour, social media manager, and he won't apply.
	He said he found a couple people who had moved to California, they wanted to be actors, and he hired them and said, you've got to manage social media for these various companies, the restaurants and such.
	And then he said he goes out to do business meetings to sell more clients.
	Not a single phone call.
	He gets kind of worried.
	He's like, these people are not trained, they're not college grads, and they're not calling me.
	He's like, I think I'm going to come back to the office, there's going to be places on fire.
	He shows up, walks in and says, what's going on?
	And they're like, not much.
	And he's like, everything good?
	Like, all good.
	And he's like, really?
	Yep.
	And he's like, did you have any problems?
	Nope.
	And he's like, did anything happen today?
	Like, what's going on?
	Like, oh yeah, one of the clients posted a picture that pissed people off, but we just took care of it.
	And he was like, really?
	And they're like, yeah, we just had him take the picture down, told him to do something different and just not do it again.
	And he was like, cool.
	And he was like, I realized something.
	High school dropouts who moved to California were sure of themselves.
	They knew what they needed to do, and they were trying to figure things out actively.
	College graduates had no gumption, couldn't function without being told what to do.
	And in fact, that's why they went to college in the first place, because they were told to do it.
	And he was like, so it's kind of crazy.
	It's cheaper to hire people who didn't go to college.
	They're better at the job, more likely to figure out the problems and improve their skills.
	I'm making more money now.
	And I was like, yeah.
	I have another story for you.
	I knew this dude who, this is really funny, he was getting paid $27,000 a year as a web developer.
	Since he was a kid, he had been learning how to code websites because he was passionate about it.
	He wanted to make websites, he wanted to program them, and he started learning it.
	And so he goes to a company, and he applies for the job, and he gets an interview.
	He sent in his portfolio, they look at the work he's done, he's proficient in these coding languages, and they went to him and they were like, I think he was 19.
	And they were like, we can pay you $27,000 a year.
	And he went, holy crap, really?
	And they were like, yep.
	And he was like, okay.
	And they were like, awesome.
	And they explained to him.
	They were a small company with limited clients and a very thin profit margin.
	And every web dev that came in with a college degree said, 27 is too low.
	Granted, this is probably 14, 15 years ago, maybe 16 years ago in Chicago.
	And they said, I need 35.
	Because I gotta pay off my student loan debt.
	And he was like, we can't afford to pay you $35,000.
	We don't have $35,000.
	We don't have the clients to do that.
	And even if we hired you, the amount of work you do would barely make any profit for the company at all.
	So we would just be losing money if we hired you.
	So they said, no, not interested.
	Then along comes this 19-year-old kid who's like, $27,000 works for me.
	I'm a high school dropout.
	And they're like, we've seen your work.
	You can do the websites.
	You know how to do it.
	You've done it.
	And you can pay what we can afford you.
	Welcome to the company.
	That's it.
	It's remarkable.
	College is rotting the brains of people.
	And they are convinced.
	And look at these Democrats and how they vote.
	They are convinced they're right.
	That's the terrifying thing.
	Dunning-Kruger effect.
	I went to college, that means I'm smart.
	And then they do this thing where they're like, Tim Pool is so stupid, he didn't even go to high school.
	And I'm like, have you stopped to ask yourself why I run a successful business with between 30 and 40 employees and contractors, owning multiple properties, expanding?
	Like, these are the people who say Donald Trump's an idiot.
	Donald Trump is not an idiot, and neither is Mark Cuban.
	They're both very smart men who are really good at what they do.
	That's why they're wealthier than you.
	Don't get me wrong.
	You can be the greatest guitar player in the world and not make a lot of money off it.
	Being good at making money is a skill in and of itself.
	But to claim that these widely successful people are stupid is a bad move.
	You can be mad at Mark Cuban for the things he posts politically and be like, this guy is dumb as a box of rocks.
	Yes, when it comes to political stuff, maybe that is, or maybe it's intentional, but the idea that, in a general sense, you'd say Mark Cuban is legitimately low intelligence or stupid is just flat wrong.
	The dude is a brilliant financier.
	He knows how to make money.
	He knows where to put his money.
	He knows how to make moves most people don't, and that's why he's a billionaire.
	Facts.
	And there are people who are geniuses in sports and in driving cars, too.
	My point is, This idea that you have to go to school to be educated or smart is a stupid thing that is tricking people and that's why they're firing these Gen Z workers.
	But it's all of them.
	They are living lives where they have no idea what to do or how to do it and colleges are not preparing them.
	So my advice, stop sending your kids to these indoctrination factories that condemn them to a life of misery and ineptitude.
	Teach your children how to build, grow, develop, and solve problems.
	That's the path, man.
	I'll leave it there.
	Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
	Next segment will be up at 8 p.m.
	YouTube.com slash TimCast IRL, but I do think we may have a bonus segment on this death penalty story, so we'll grab that one.
	Thank y'all so much.
	I think I have it right here, actually.
	Thank y'all so much for hanging out, and we will see you at TimCast IRL tonight.
	Follow me on Axe at TimCast, and for those that are still watching live, we'll grab your Super Chats.
	And then we'll, we'll talk about this, this story with this year, death sentence guy, because I, I got a lot to say, got a lot to say.
	You guys don't add a death penalty.
	We'll grab a couple more here.
	Corag says, Gen Z growing up and working in a school district, Z and Alpha were growing up with no discipline structure and being taught to critic, and, and being taught to critically think.
	Due to learning these growing up from family opportunities open up without a degree too.
	All right.
	What does it say?
	Is it mad?
	Mad macho?
	I'm an 86 baby too, Tim.
	We barely missed the Gen X Club.
	But as a father of eight, my main focus is the kids and teaching them how to do the basics.
	Hunting, fishing, shooting, homesteading, and working.
	Here, here, good sir!
	You see, having eight kids, you are wealthier than the wealthiest man.
	And you're doing the work, teaching them how to live life and be good.
	That's brilliant.
	Ben Smith says, I'm 39 and used to manage a team of Gen Z at a warehouse.
	They were the laziest, most difficult to work with people I'd ever met.
	No one taught them work ethic.
	I worry about their future.
	I worry about our future.
	We need young people to take the reins and work the management positions and be lieutenants and commanders and then generals.
	The whole system comes crumbling down.
	Tiffany C says there's an irate mom out of PA stating her 17-year-old daughter was pulled from class to register to vote and was pressured to register as a Democrat.
	Shadow campaign or normal practice?
	Shadow campaign.
	Sir Joshua says I'm Gen Z and always thought college was a scam because my high school shoved it down our throats.
	I feel bad for my peers who fell for it.
	Same thing for me, too.
	I told this story, too.
	I read this, uh, there was an economist who worked in the Bush administration, I think, and he said something like, If you go to any investor and say, here's the investment plan.
unidentified		$40,000.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You invest that.
		And four years later, you will owe $40,000 with interest.
		They're going to go, huh?
		I ain't taking that investment opportunity.
		Are you nuts?
		No one would accept that.
		Take out a loan for $40,000.
		What investor in their right mind would do that?
		It's the stupidest thing imaginable.
		He said, get a job at McDonald's at the age of 16, work your butt off, become an assistant manager, by the time you're 20, save your money, you've got a net positive $20,000 to $40,000, invest in the S&P, take another job, you're going to have millions of dollars for retirement that those college grads will never see.
		There was one report that showed that college grads, if you start working at 18 and save, you will have something like a million more dollars than a college graduate, because the college graduates have a negative net worth until 30.
		If you don't go to college, granted, it's not being paid for by somebody else, but let's say you're 18, you get out of high school, you say, I've got no debt, I'm gonna go work at Starbucks.
		If you start saving then and keep working, The estimate by 22, you're an assistant or you're a manager.
		Probably after four years, you're a manager. And so you're making at today, I don't
		know what the rates are, but, you know, you could be making a decently, you know, five, a
		decent five-figure salary.
		You're net positive the whole time. By the time you're 30, you could have 50 to 100k
		saved up. It just really depends on how much you're putting in. We're talking about 12 years
		of saving and making, let's say, 50 to 200k as it curves up and your salary goes up, maybe 80k.
		If you're out of school at 22, negative $40,000 plus interest, On average, your net worth will remain negative until you're 30 or 31 years old, when your net worth becomes about $1,000.
		I'm not exaggerating.
		And then from there, you start saving.
		You are 12 years behind the curve.
		Now, the argument is, after you've paid off all your debt, you make more money with a college degree.
		But that is not true!
		That is the lie.
		That is the lie, my friends.
		Let's do this.
		We'll do a bonus segment here.
		We got this story from the AP.
		Missouri executes a man for the 1998 killing of a woman despite her family's calls to spare his life.
		Now this is a difficult story here.
		The man was Marcellus Williams.
		He was put to death just the other day.
		Strangely, the prosecutor said that they believe the case was mishandled and the victim's own family said they did not want him put to death.
		They wanted life without a chance for parole.
		I believe that there's a grave injustice when the victims, that would be the family, are denied their demand for justice.
		I think many conservatives would agree, but I do not understand, I think it's unfair to say, I would say I largely understand a lot of what is being said by the right when they advocate for the state execution of this man.
		My fear, however, is that innocent people are too often put to death, and this story raises a lot of problems, which I open the floor to comments and debate.
		Comment below.
		Let me know what you guys think about this story, and I'll read it to you, and then we'll talk about what we think we know about it and the moral surrounding.
		A Missouri man convicted of breaking into a woman's home and repeatedly stabbing her was executed Tuesday over the objections of the victim's family and the prosecutor, who wanted the death sentence commuted to life in prison.
		Marcellus Williams, 55, was convicted in the 1998 killing of Leisha Gayle, who was stabbed during the burglary of her suburban St.
		Louis home.
		Williams was put to death despite questions his attorneys raised over jury selection at his trial in the handling of evidence in the case.
		His clemency petition focused heavily on how Gale's relatives wanted Williams' sentence commuted to life without the possibility of parole.
		The family defines closure as Marcellus being allowed to live.
		The petition stated, Marcellus' execution is not necessary.
		As Williams lay awaiting execution, he appeared to converse with the spiritual advisor seated next to him.
		Williams wiggled his feet underneath a white sheet that was pulled up to his neck and moved his head slightly while his spiritual advisor continued to talk.
		Then Williams' chest heaved about a half dozen times and he showed no further movement.
		Williams' son and two attorneys watched from another room.
		No one was present on behalf of the victim's family.
		The Department of Corrections released a brief statement that Williams had written ahead of time saying, all praise be to Allah in every situation.
		Republican Missouri Governor Mike Parson said he hoped the execution brings finality to a case that languished for decades, re-victimizing Ms.
		Gayle's family over and over again.
		I don't get it.
		If the family said they did not want him killed, you were victimizing them.
		They said our closure is him not being executed, so why kill him?
		Now let's break down the arguments, because I do not trust the left, okay?
		They come out and they want to make arguments about why he was actually innocent.
		We got some questions here, but there are still questions about the mechanism itself.
		No juror nor judge has ever found Williams' innocence claim to be credible, Parsons said in a statement.
		The NAACP had been among those urging Parsons to cancel the execution.
	Tonight, Missouri lynched another innocent black man, the NAACP President Derrick Johnson said in a statement.
	It was the third time Williams faced execution.
	He got reprieves in 2015 and 2017, but his last-ditch efforts this time were futile.
	Parson and the State Supreme Court rejected his appeals in quick succession Monday, and the U.S.
	Supreme Court declined to intervene hours before he was put to death.
	Last month, Gayle's relatives gave their blessing to an agreement between the St.
	Louis County Prosecuting Attorney's Office and Williams' attorney to commute the sentence to life in prison.
	But acting on an appeal from Missouri AG Andrew Bailey, who I'm a big fan of, by the way, the State Supreme Court nullified the agreement.
	I don't get it.
	I genuinely don't get it.
	If the prosecutor and the family say, we're going to agree, let's keep him life in prison, no parole, but we're not going to kill him, why intervene and be like, no!
	Kill the guy!
	I just don't understand.
	He's not getting out.
	He's already in prison.
	Is the argument the state doesn't want to pay the bills?
	I don't know.
	What's the legitimate logical argument for a man who is locked in a box, can't go anywhere?
	But let's read more.
	Let's read more.
	Williams was among death row inmates in five states who were scheduled to be put to death in the span of a week, an unusually high number that defies a years-long decline in the use of support of the death penalty, blah blah blah.
	Gayle, 42, is a social worker and former St.
	Louis Post-Dispatch reporter.
	Prosecutors at Williams' trial said he broke into her home in 1998 August, heard the shower running, found a large butcher knife, stabbed her 43 times when she came downstairs, her purse and her husband's laptop were stolen.
	Authorities said Williams stole a jacket to conceal blood on his shirt.
	His girlfriend asked him why he would wear a jacket on a hot day.
	She later saw the purse and laptop in his car, and that Williams sold the computer a day or two later.
	Prosecutors also cited testimony from Henry Cole, who shared a cell with Williams in 99.
	While Williams was jailed on unrelated charges, Cole told prosecutors that Williams confessed to the killing and provided details about it.
	Questions I have there.
	Were the details unknown to that individual?
	or was this man offered rewards?
	Williams' attorney responded that the girlfriend and Cole were both convicted of felonies
	and wanted a $10,000 reward.
	They said that fingerprints, a bloody shoe print, and hair and other evidence of the crime scene
	didn't match Williams.
	A crime scene investigator has testified the killer wore gloves.
	Questions about DNA evidence also led to St.
	Louis prosecuting attorney, Wesley Bell, to request a hearing challenging Williams' guilt.
	But days before the August 21st hearing, new testing showed that DNA on the knife belonged to a member of the prosecutor's office who handled it without gloves after the original crime lab tests.
	Without DNA evidence pointing to an alternative suspect, Midwest Innocence Project attorneys reached a compromise at the prosecutor's office.
	Williams would enter a new, no-contest plea to first-degree murder in exchange for a new sentence of life in prison without parole.
	A no-contest plea isn't an admission of guilt, but is treated as such for the purpose of sentencing.
	Judge Bruce Hilton signed off, as did Gayle's family, but Bailey appealed, and the state Supreme Court blocked the agreement and ordered Hilton to proceed with an evidentiary hearing, which took place last month.
	Hilton ruled on September 12th that the first-degree murder conviction and death sentence would stand, noting that Williams' arguments had all been previously rejected.
	That decision was upheld Monday by the state Supreme Court.
	Attorneys for Williams, who was black, also challenged the fairness of his trial, particularly the fact that only one of the 12 jurors was black.
	Trisha Bushnell of the Midwest Innocence Project said the prosecutor in the case, Keith Larner, removed six of seven black prospective jurors.
	Larner testified at the August hearing.
	Here's what I have to say.
	I don't know that I believe this guy's innocent, right?
	juror partly because he looked too much like Williams. A statement that Williams'
	attorneys asserted showed improper racial bias. Larner contended the jury
	selection process was fair. Williams was the third Missouri inmate put to death
	this year and the 100th since the state resumed the death penalty in 89. Here's
	what I have to say. I don't know that I believe this guy's innocent, right? However,
	not having gone through the case, I've only read preliminary things.
	The question ultimately comes down to, first and foremost, if the family of the victims, the people who are seeking the justice, say, we agree, let's just keep them with life without parole.
	Who is being served by then deciding to actually kill the man?
	The taxpayer, that's the argument.
	The question then for everybody else, and this is a real question, not a gotcha, not an emotional dig, I'm saying, do you consider this, and again, legitimately, answer, let me know what you think, because I really want to hear your thoughts, would you consider paying the, I think it could be upwards of like $50,000 to $100,000 a year, to pay, taxpayer-wise, for the life of this man in prison until he dies, if it would mean not killing innocent people, right?
	So, my view is, There's a big problem with forcing people to pay for anything.
	And so it is unjust to say, this man's been convicted, we believe he's a threat to others, he can't be released, but you should pay for his life from now on.
	That's just like taking more money from people.
	But I have a bigger moral problem personally with, there's a question of his innocence.
	Not that I buy the whole, oh the prosecutor was racist stuff or whatever, none of that.
	The question of whether or not, I think, in this story, and these stories in the past, that you have a felon in prison and an ex-girlfriend felon offered $10,000 who then go, oh yeah, he totally did it.
	I don't trust these people.
	I wonder if people genuinely understand how evil people can be.
	If you understand that there is a man that you believe is so evil he would murder a woman in cold blood with 43 stabbings, is it not possible that there is a woman who would lie claiming he did for $10,000?
	That gives me pause.
	To which I would agree.
	Matt Walsh makes great arguments.
	What do we do?
	Just pay for this guy's life forever?
	And I say, fair point.
	I oppose a death penalty.
	As an institutionalized mechanism, but I think we all agree that if we definitively as individuals who witness something happen, it's very different as opposed to being convinced of something.
	I'm not going to go join an advocacy group marching in the street or anything.
	I'm not that, you know, I oppose it.
	I'll speak about it.
	But do I, is it really my life's work?
	Yeah, not really.
	The issue then becomes, if there is doubt that this woman may have just wanted the money, they wanted 10 grand, two people, Do we want to risk killing an innocent person?
	Well, I don't want to release a guy who may have stabbed somebody and done this, okay?
	I agree.
	Dangerous to others.
	Don't trust it, right?
	Would the compromise then not make sense?
	The family says, we'll just keep him locked up forever.
	Me, personally?
	I would personally prefer to contribute to imprisonment You know, I think the island is a better option, and I think it's plausible.
	Exile.
	Look, man, they may be lying about you, it may be bad for your life, but I'd rather not be the one who morally is... You know, that's what Matt Walsh said.
	It was a great point.
	The undue moral burden on an individual to kill someone.
	And that's basically my point.
	He articulated it much better than I. But I incorporate now the point he made into my bigger point.
	What does it mean to kill an innocent person?
	Is it 1 in 4 or is it 1 in 200?
	250.
	They say the range could be anywhere from 4% of death row inmates are innocent and put to death or it could be as low as .4.
	Is it worth Having someone pull the lever to execute an innocent person.
	And we wouldn't call that murder because there's a good faith action on behalf of the person that they're ending the life of an individual they feel is a threat to society.
	But for me, I just think...
	We have a moral conundrum here in this society.
	One that doesn't have an easy answer.
	Do we fund the life of an individual who may actually be the most brutal of evil murderers?
	We can't release them.
	They'll kill somebody else.
	They are a constant threat.
	Currently they are subdued and we have the choice.
	End their life with a death penalty or pay for them to live forever and they don't do anything for us.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if there's a good answer to this one, honestly.
	Certainly, there can be labor done in prison under a watchful eye that can generate some value for society.
	But in this instance, I think this is an example of the killer was wearing gloves.
	The girlfriend said that he was wearing the jacket and he was doing these things, but she may have gotten paid off for it.
	That's tough.
	I don't buy the left-leaning arguments, and this prosecutor I'm no fan of.
	You know, he's a St.
	Louis, right?
	He's had some weird woke stuff going on.
	I don't know a lot about it.
	I'm just saying, man, for me, I can't speak for you guys, I would always rather err on the side of not having an innocent person be murdered, and that means sometimes the guilty escape their punishment.
	Because in this instance, I don't say go free.
	You know, Blackstone's formulation in Franklin, they said it's better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
	It's one of the lessons of the Bible in Sodom and Gomorrah.
	If a guilty person of serious heinous crimes is going to be locked up forever and cannot harm anyone, then I believe them escaping death is better than killing an innocent person.
	I cannot fathom.
	I cannot fathom.
	I would never pull a lever on an execution.
	I would never do it.
	There's no amount of money you could pay me.
	There's no amount of evidence you could show me.
	Nothing.
	I would never do it.
	That being said, if I was direct witness to a crime, watching someone in cold blood threaten the lives of maybe there's a victim or children or whatever, I absolutely would act in the immediate as legally required to defend the lives of myself and others.
	And that's a harsh prospect and a harsh reality that a lot of people have to unfortunately deal with.
	Grow up.
	Be a man.
	These things happen.
	The bigger question is, a man is on a gurney.
	He is covered by a sheet and they say, we can kill him right now or not.
	He's not going to hurt anybody.
	It's been 30 years.
	The family doesn't want him killed.
	There's questions of whether he did it.
	What do we do?
	It is terrifying to me that the machine state just says, well, Kill him anyway.
	I don't like that idea.
	That's just me.
	But I'll leave it there, my friends.
	I'll wrap it up there.
	I don't have any good answers for you.
	I'm not the bastion or arbiter of morality.
	I can just tell you what I think and how I feel.
	We'll see you all in the next segment.
	Got an extra one in today.
	Thanks for hanging out and follow me on X, smash the like button, subscribe at TimCast.com and we'll see you next time.
	We'll grab a couple more Super Chats because this one is an important story.
	Logan Miller says, former SGT at his prison, he bragged about murder.
	Perhaps.
	The Emperor's Champion says, you let the victims of families pick the punishment, then it will turn into bail reform 100 times.
	Remember that psycho dad in Ohio who said he wished his kid was killed by a white guy?
	Perhaps.
	In those areas, maybe.
	Carlos says, California has a moratorium on the death penalty.
	The last person executed was 2006.
	Is this the leftist nightmare scenario you're afraid of?
	What do you mean?
	I have no qualms about not killing people.
	Keeping the worst people locked in boxes, I just say, okay.
	I'd rather avoid killing innocent people.
	I don't like the death penalty.
	I'm not a fan of it.
	Kamala Harris is... Could you imagine how many people Kamala Harris would have killed if they didn't do this?
	My God!
	She would have been lining people up like Robespierre.
	Notice Me Senpai says, the family's opinion is irrelevant.
	If there were no family members remaining, would the nature of the crime be different?
	No, it wouldn't.
	Failure to punish the guilty punishes everyone else.
	The question is, define the punishment.
	And I don't agree with incarceration as punishment.
	It's an ineffective and illogical system.
	It's a system of retribution instead of a system of logic and efficiency.
	People should be reformed if they can be reformed, and if they can't be reformed, they should be subdued.
	Individuals who are in active acts of threat and violence need to be subdued by all reasonable measures, up to and including lethal force, if they are threatening the lives of other people around them.
	War exists.
	I recognize that war happens, and sometimes there is legitimate reasons for war.
	I oppose most war because war escalates, and then, you know, you get in a pissing match, everyone just gets covered in piss.
	You get nuclear war, there are no victors, only survivors.
	And so we try to avoid escalation.
	I think of it on the micro and the macro.
	I go to a bar.
	A guy, for no reason, is aggressive.
	He's angry with me.
	Do I say, back off.
	Don't disrespect me.
	You don't know who you're dealing with.
	No.
	I say, sorry about that, dude.
	I didn't mean anything by it.
	Can I buy you a beer?
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because everyone... Look, go train with martial arts.
		And what do they tell you?
		The fight you've won is the fight you've avoided.
		Because nobody wins a fight.
		I've heard too many bad stories.
		You want to avoid the conflict to the best of your ability.
		You want to have the big stick.
		Big stick diplomacy, I get.
		You want to walk into a room knowing you ain't going to lose a fight.
		You don't need to worry about someone trying to fight you, but you don't want a fight to happen.
		So my view is largely this.
		If the man is subdued, I believe that we have an opportunity to mitigate the risk of killing innocent people by saying the threat has been ended.
		We now have to consider what the burden is on the people.
		I respect that.
		I do not expect you to pay the bills to maintain these people.
		So here's a proposal.
		Some people want retribution.
		He's been convicted.
		He should die.
		But none of you are witness to the crime.
		None of you are witness to the evidence.
		None of you know the witnesses in question.
		And that terrifies me that y'all would cheer for the death of a man, and you don't know what actually happened.
		Democrats right now are calling Donald Trump a traitor, and they have no idea what really happened.
		Democrats are saying Donald Trump sexually abused a woman, despite you and I looking at the evidence and knowing that the story is largely insane and bunk, and they changed the rules.
		A jury of Democrats condemned Donald Trump.
		This is insanity!
		If we know that Trump can be falsely convicted by psychopaths, could you imagine the innocent people who could be killed over this?
		Could you imagine what Democrats would do to Donald Trump if they had that absolute power?
		They would end his life.
		And I know this because these far-left extremists have already tried twice now, and so has Iran.
		Imagine what this machine would do to your leaders, to the people you care about, without reviewing evidence.
		I will not be party, okay?
		I'm just saying, you did not miss it, but you championed the death.
		That terrifies me.
		A violent mob with pitchforks outside, convinced that they're right, but they're not right.
		And they end up killing an innocent person is a terrifying reality that we don't want to live in.
		I understand the Founding Fathers favored the death penalty in many circumstances, and they tried to strive to have a system that would prove things without a reasonable doubt.
		I do understand that.
		And it's a difficult position.
		However, my point right now is that if we know that the state has falsely convicted people, falsely found people liable, that they hunt people down, and it's all happening to Donald Trump, could you imagine what California would do, what Kamala Harris would do to your political leaders?
		Like I mentioned, she'd be lining them up like Robespierre.
		So I'm glad they got a moratorium in that state.
		Now, I do think that the system is broken, and there's got to be something we can do.
		I do not accept emotional retribution arguments.
		I don't.
		It's illogical, and it does not lead to an efficient state.
		But there could be a solution, and that is, if those that oppose the death penalty, here's your option.
		No one is obligated to support the life of a person, man or woman, who has been convicted beyond a reasonable doubt of heinous crimes.
		But if you want to make sure this person doesn't, you know, we don't kill innocent people, despite the trials that we had, it should be incumbent upon those who oppose the death penalty to pay the money to sustain them in prison.
		So I put it this way, either we exile them, but Matt Wall says no, there should be retribution.
		I don't agree with that.
		I don't think that's efficient.
		It just feels good.
		That's feelings before fact.
		The facts may be that we're unsure of ourselves, we don't know, we think beyond a reasonable doubt, but I'm not going to let the emotion dictate that I want this person to feel pain because society... Nah, it makes no sense to me.
		And by all means, feel free to disagree.
		I don't think I'm right about everything.
		These are my personal feelings.
		But I try to sustain a path of logic of what's the best way to make sure we're finding justice and making the machine work properly.
		So if you oppose the death penalty, and you wanted this guy, Williams, to survive, you pay the bills.
		And don't put it on anybody else in this country to pay for a guy who was convicted.
		I think that's fair.
		But some people think he should die, to make an example.
	Some people think he should die because he has to pay the price.
	And the worrying thing about it is, none of y'all actually witnessed the crime or saw any of the evidence.
	You are, in my opinion, leaning on the system that you trust to be correct.
	But right now in New York, they're all claiming Trump is guilty of sexually abusing—liable for sexually abusing a woman, whose story is nonsensical.
	And they claim he committed civil fraud even though the victims never lost money, said what Trump did was normal, and they want to work with him again.
	You've got the woman who accused Brett Kavanaugh of having gang rape parties.
	Could you imagine what Democrats would do to Brett Kavanaugh under these criminal trials?
	You'd be sitting here being like, nah, Kavanaugh was convicted of gang rape.
	He deserves what he gets.
	No, no.
	But you see, we actually reviewed the story as it happened and said that the evidence is not credible.
	So we look at it and we have doubts, right?
	How many of these cases and how many of the people who are on death row have you actually reviewed in order to justify that these persons should be put to death?
	Democrats, like I mentioned, I think Kamala would line them up like ropes, Pierre.
	That's just me, though.
	I'm passionate.
	I'll wrap things up a little bit over, and I do gotta get those segments uploaded, so I really do appreciate you guys.
	Feel free to disagree with me.
	I don't think I'm right about everything.
	These are just my opinions, and I think we should do a death penalty debate.
	I'm sure there's a lot of great arguments.
	Matt Walsh had really good arguments, and I conceded a lot to him.
	I don't know how to change the system, you know?
	But I'll wrap it up there.
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