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Biden Planned To ASSASSINATE TRUMP Says MTG, FBI Authorized LETHAL FORCE In Trump Mar-A-Lago Raid

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Now, let's get into the news.
It's the bombshell story you probably heard about last night.
That the FBI, when they conducted the surprise raid on Mar-a-Lago over classified documents, had been authorized to use deadly force.
Not only this, but they were instructed to wear plain clothes, unmarked and hide that they were law enforcement.
Now we are getting the big debate.
Some people on the right saying, no way, this is standard protocol, it's not that big of a deal.
The corporate press saying basically the same thing.
There was no effort to cause harm to the president.
And then you have, I don't know, Dan Bongino, who actually was in the Secret Service, and is saying, no way.
This is anything but standard.
Unprecedented.
Marjorie Taylor Greene says that Biden was planning to assassinate Trump.
A very bold claim.
But I wouldn't say personally.
That I think their intention was purely to take out Trump, but I think it was part of the, well, if it happens, it happens, right?
Conduct a raid, authorize deadly force, unmarked police, and if Trump shows up, you know, we don't know.
Now, Trump wasn't there, and that's important, because I want to go through this debate people are having, and I will just start by saying, standard protocol There is no standard protocol for conducting a surprise raid on the home of a former president.
As Dan Bongino also points out, it's a protected place by the Secret Service.
So what surprise raid are you doing?
That's right.
They wanted to conduct a surprise raid, and according to the Washington Post, Trump was unaware.
Here's what's fascinating.
Now the Washington Post has written the most insane story Placating everything, saying, in order to make sure things were calm, they shut up unmarked?
One of the most insane things I've heard.
You show up to a man's home, in plain clothes, with guns, and what do you think happens?
Now, there are people who are like, yeah, but Tim, it's standard protocol.
Not for a president.
It's all unprecedented.
You don't do it.
It's gotta be done in different ways.
But this is the fascinating case right now.
In the event, and I will stress this, Julie Kelly pointing out, that in their operational documents, they had a contingency plan for the arrival of Donald Trump.
I've been to Mar-a-Lago.
I went there a couple weeks ago.
First time I'd ever been there.
I'll tell you this.
They have security.
We were there when the President was there, and so Secret Service was there as well.
You can't just walk in.
You will be stopped by security.
If you are in plain clothes with a gun and try going past security, you're opening the door to some real messed up stuff.
Okay.
They say, well, Trump wasn't there.
Is this a joke?
Trump has family.
Trump's family could be there.
And they authorize deadly force.
You want to have a surprise raid against a former president.
You are conducting an unprecedented move.
And what you do then is, in your operational documents is, this is the former president under Secret Service protection.
No law enforcement shall be armed.
There will be no authorization for the use of force in any way.
That's it.
In fact, according to the Washington Post, last year, discussing the story, several FBI agents wanted just that.
They said, no no no, no raid, just call the man and we will set up a time.
Prosecutors were like, no.
Storm in, guns a-blazing, with no warning.
You know what I think?
I don't know that they wanted to kill Trump.
I think that they were more likely hoping for a shootout in which they could say January 6th all over again.
They could say, Donald Trump's security have opened fire on law enforcement.
And then, could you imagine Joe Biden being like, ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump has security guards shooting at the FBI.
Come on, man!
They wanted to up the ante.
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I think they were hoping for it.
tim pool
Marjorie Taylor Greene makes wild claim Biden was planning to assassinate Trump.
A new court filing unsealed on Tuesday in the Trump-classified documents case revealed federal agents were prepped to use deadly force when executing the raid.
Greene, a devoted Trump ally, ragged the news furiously, suggesting that President Biden, his DOJ, and the FBI were prepared to kill his predecessor.
I don't remember exactly how I framed it.
But I think mine was that they were trying to incite a conflict or a civil war or something like that.
Let me see.
I want to make sure what I posted.
Unmarked FBI armed and ready to use lethal force at Mar-a-Lago against Trump.
It was either an attempt to kill Trump or incite civil war.
Maybe both.
I would say now, based on the fact that Perhaps you can't convey enough information on Axe.
I'd actually walk that back a little bit, because they had a contingency plan for Trump's arrival, and, you know, maybe a bit hyperbolic.
I think that's fair.
But I do think that the general idea is they wanted a conflict, and I stand by the Civil War part.
You know I would, and I'll tell you why.
You show up to Mar-a-Lago, FBI agents, Trump Security, Secret Service, or whatever, opened fire because unmarked, unannounced law enforcement.
It's dudes in khakis with guns raiding your property.
And we saw what happened with Ashley Babbitt, right?
It is well known on the left that cops may just shoot somebody.
Now, when it came to Ashley Babbitt, what did they say?
Well, she was an insurrectionist.
She shouldn't have been there.
If a guy in khakis and a polo shirt with a gun is walking through Mar-a-Lago with his gun drawn, you think a security guard's gonna be like, time to figure out who this guy is?
And then what happens?
Let's say Trump security opens fire on this guy.
Media reports shootout.
Trump personnel in a shootout with FBI to stop them from searching the property.
What do you think happens to this country?
Let's do this.
We'll go to the debate.
The debate about whether or not it's real, and I'm gonna break it all down for you, because I think people are wrong.
This is an unprecedented move, and you know, what I want to say is, when you plan a surprise raid on a former president, unmarked with guns, and authorization for use of deadly force, I don't know exactly what you're hoping to get out of it, but it sounds like you know you could get violence out of it.
Whether that is the loss of Trump's life should he arrive, because they had a contingency plan for that.
Or, as I described, inciting mass chaos and reporting nationally some kind of, oh Trump's people are shooting at feds.
Here we go.
Hannah Knowles, who's a liar, says a former president falsely accusing a successor and rival of posing a threat to his life is without precedent in modern U.S.
history.
This is not a news article.
This is an opinion piece from the Washington Post, unlabeled as opinion.
Trump email falsely says Biden was locked and loaded to take me out.
Actually, that's a fact.
Biden's DOJ were authorized, locked and loaded, to take out Trump.
That's a fact.
How are they saying it was false?
Because they are liars.
I am not saying I can tell you definitively they wanted to kill Trump.
What I am saying is, the Biden DOJ authorized the use of deadly force at Trump's property, for which Trump may have arrived, they didn't know.
So, yes, that's true.
A former president falsely accusing—these people are evil.
Wait till you see this.
Donald Trump on Tuesday falsely claimed in a campaign fundraising email that Biden was locked and loaded, ready to take me out during the Mar-a-Lago raid for classified documents.
An extraordinary distortion of a standard FBI policy on the use of deadly force during such operations.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
So the opening paragraph admits the FBI standard policy was to be locked and loaded and ready to take out the individuals that they are encountering.
Sounds like Trump told the truth.
Trump appeared to be referring to a law enforcement document released Tuesday in court filings in the document's case that describes the FBI's plans for a court-authorized search on August 8, 2022 at Mar-a-Lago.
FBI agents recovered classified material from Trump, blah blah blah, we get it.
They say, um, One page in the document includes a policy statement on the use of deadly force which says officers may resort to lethal force only when the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to an officer or another person.
Which again proves the point.
This is what we've been talking about.
Showing up unmarked.
Wait till you see this.
You're gonna laugh.
Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee for president and some of his allies, such as a Tuesday.
This was evidence that Biden's DOJ was prepared to fatally shoot him.
Yes.
In fact, Trump was not at his Florida property the day of his search, except as Julie Kelly
points out.
Let me see if I can find the.
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tim pool
Julie Kelly says they had a contingency plan for the arrival of F POTUS.
They will be prepared to engage with F POTUS and U.S.S.S.
security team.
Uh huh.
What's up, Washington Post?
They were prepared for Trump to be there, knowing they would be arriving authorized to use lethal force.
What do you think happens?
Secret Service pulls up, not knowing what's going on.
Guys in polo shirts with guns are guns drawn or out.
Who knows what they're doing?
You think Secret Service is going to be like, howdy there, mister?
What you doing?
Or do you think they're going to draw their weapon and say, On the ground now!
Drop the weapon!
Drop the weapon!
And then the law enforcement agent says, Don't!
No!
Don't move!
What do you think could happen?
I love this.
This is not a news report!
This is remarkable.
Washington Post running opinions as if it's news.
Amazing.
Your president falsely accusing his successor and rival of posing a threat to his life is
without precedent in U.S. modern history.
The comments mark a sharp escalation of Trump's baseless attacks.
This is not a news report.
This is remarkable.
Washington Post running opinions as if it's news.
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Amazing.
tim pool
Trump has frequently accused Biden of weaponizing legal — let me tell you this.
I'll give you the raw facts.
FBI was authorized to use lethal force in their Mar-a-Lago raid, a surprise raid on the Trump properties.
They chose a date when Trump was not there, but had a contingency plan should he arrive.
Officers were instructed to conceal that they were law enforcement.
Thank you and have a nice day.
That's the news.
Now my opinion is, they knew what this was leading to.
The Washington Post is now, it's not even opinion, it's just lies.
Outright lies.
Here we go.
I love this.
Let me find the, uh... There's a really great point where, uh... in this article.
Let me see if I can, uh... I think they said plain.
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No.
tim pool
Did they get rid of it?
Let me try and find it.
Basically, they may have gotten rid of it.
There's a part in this where she writes, they were even dressed down, you know, to avoid a confrontation.
And I thought it was in the beginning, but maybe it's near the end.
Let's see if we can find it.
I'll just read the whole thing.
So, FBI agents got approval from a federal magistrate judge in Florida to search Mar-a-Lago.
Oh, here we go.
I got it.
After months of efforts to get Trump to hand over the documents, agents also arrived in deliberately casual outfits to lower their profile khakis and polo shirts to comb the area and left with more than 100 classified documents.
Deliberately casual live, it's to lower their profile.
I mean, they were trying to avoid conflict.
Is it a joke?
Brenna Taylor.
Duncan Lemp, I think his name was?
We know the stories of what happens.
Now, the Brenna Taylor story, her boyfriend opened fire on the cops, they announced themselves, but the left argues their view is that unmarked cops kicked the door in and opened fire on her.
What do you think happens when dudes who are wearing street clothes kick a door with guns?
Yeah.
Well, my friends, I bring you back in time to the Washington Post's own article from 2023.
Hmm.
Showdown before the raid.
FBI agents and prosecutors argued over Trump.
Take a look at this.
Prosecutors argued that new evidence suggested Trump was knowingly concealing secret documents in his Palm Beach, Florida home and urged the FBI to conduct a surprise raid at the property.
But two senior FBI officials, who would be in charge of leading the search, resisted the plan as too combative and proposed instead to seek Trump's permission to search his property, according to the four people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a sensitive investigation.
And prosecutors ultimately prevailed in that dispute.
That is to say, some in the FBI were actually like, are you nuts?
You can't do this.
And the prosecutors won.
It was a surprise raid.
Here's what the FBI says.
From Axios.
FBI responds to Trump claim about Mar-a-Lago search.
The FBI, in a statement on Tuesday, said that their search at former President's Mar-a-Lago residence followed standard protocol, which includes a standard policy statement limiting the use of deadly force.
Limiting?
They should have had a policy statement saying, no one will be armed and equipped for the use of force.
They are not raiding a drug dealer, murderer, gangbanger's house.
It's the former president under Secret Service protection.
The statement was a response to a Truth Social post from Trump.
The FBI followed standard protocol, they say.
Trump's allies seized on the post, etc, etc.
Alright, well, let's read.
Julie Kelly points out, with the initial document, Agents brought standard-issue weapons, ammo, and handcuffs, and were instructed to wear unmarked polo or collared shirts and conceal law enforcement equipment.
They had a contingency plan for Trump's arrival.
FBI had a medic on the scene and identified a local trauma center for anyone injured during the raid.
Not only were they prepared to use lethal force, they were prepared to render medical aid in the event they harmed someone.
Now, of course, here we have this.
We have federal law specifically cover former presidents and their families.
Is there an exemption for the FBI?
They say this is for threats against people under Secret Service.
How would Secret Service have responded?
What about armed FBI agents?
So we've got the shipwrecked crew, who is a lawyer for some J6ers, has... When Julie Kelly says, why did they have contingency plans when he arrived?
Shipwreck Crew says, because they don't control the schedule and you always plan for contingencies.
His car would have never made it to the front gate of Mar-a-Lago.
The FBI would have known when his plane landed at the airport.
This is just so much nonsense, but I'm sure your revenue from X and Substack is through the roof.
And what if Don Jr., Barron, Melania, what if Trump, you know, what if any of these individuals were there?
What if any of these individuals were there?
What if So, I believe you're not allowed to bring weapons into the building at Mar-a-Lago.
What if there were guests?
At Mar-a-Lago, there's a bunch of random people.
Okay, so I'm hanging out there and there's people having dinner.
They're members of a club!
It's a private club!
Dan Bongino says, plan for contingencies.
such as a U.S. SS protectee and former POTUS accidentally rolling up on your unprecedented
raid on a USC-1752 protected compound—concealed, by the way!—I strongly suggest you ignore this
ignoramus from this point on. So many dip-ish and reply guys were exposed last night.
So, uh, Shipwrecked goes on to, uh—here we go, let's, uh, let's—
Let's grab some more of these.
Here we go.
Dan Magino says, This is absolutely a big deal.
Don't buy the BS otherwise.
It was not a standard op.
The Mar-a-Lago raid was an unprecedented action, with significant potential for confusion and blue-on-blue issues, and conflict.
It also involved competing equities between federal agencies, with equal statutory claims to interrupt the other's activities.
Anyone telling you otherwise is dumb, playing dumb.
I've done more deconfliction with Russians in a foreign op I did for the U.S.
Secret Service than the FBI did in their search warrant at MAL.
Only a dumbass would pitch the it's standard paperwork line.
Go serve a search warrant at the White House in the cocaine case while filling out your standard paperwork and see how that works out for you.
Wake up.
Bongino is right!
Secret Service shows up.
Unmarked guys with guns on the property and they say, we have precedent and priority.
Get out of our way now!
Because we're dispatching dogs to search the property because you cannot just come in with guns!
I'm at Mar-a-Lago.
Secret Service had dogs roaming the property.
Sniffing around.
Duh!
A bunch of guys in plain clothes come onto the President's property, his home, and Secret Service now has to make a decision.
If somebody sneaks in with these FBI guys in plain clothes and no one's paying attention, and they can plant a bomb or who knows what, how do we check for that?
We cannot just let—that's why they did it in secret.
So if Trump were to show up, the Secret Service likely would pull Trump back, tell the FBI, get out of our way.
GTFO.
Absolutely insane.
So I think we have this shipwrecked crew says, let me read this one down by Gino first.
He says, This is what happens when a guy reads a book about basketball, and then he thinks he can go one-on-one with Jordan.
This dude doesn't know jack-ish about the significant time the U.S.
Secret Service spends on deconfliction any time there's another law enforcement firearm at any of their USC 1752 protected areas, precisely to avoid use of force anywhere near their protectees.
So tired of reply bros like this dip-ish who never contribute a single thing to debate other than cosplay as experts, to which he responded, Oh, I had that one pulled up.
He says, 1752 applies by its terms when a protectee is present or expected to be present.
Neither was true on 8-8-22.
Oh, bro, that's wrong.
They had a contingency plan for his arrival, meaning they expected the possibility he would be there.
josh hammer
Hey guys, Josh Hammer here, the host of America on Trial with Josh Hammer, a podcast for the First Podcast Network.
Look, there are a lot of shows out there that are explaining the political news cycle, what's happening on the Hill, the this, the that.
There are no other shows that are cutting straight to the point when it comes to the unprecedented lawfare debilitating This is what happens when someone who sits in a training session for a few hours thinks he's a lawyer.
I'm sorry, dude.
I gotta go with Bongino on this one.
Bongino was actually Secret Service.
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tim pool
This is what happens when someone who sits in a training session for a few hours thinks
he's a lawyer.
I'm sorry, dude.
I got to go with Bongino on this one.
Bongino was actually Secret Service.
Practice and law are two different things.
We talk about blue laws all the time.
and I'll see you next time.
It is illegal to do certain things, like you can't sell cars on the weekends, right?
In Virginia.
We have these famous laws where it's like you can't put a pie on your windowsill on Tuesday evening.
And nobody enforces any of those laws.
What's on the books and what happens in real life are totally different things.
He says, go look up U.S.
v. Gross Clothes in D.C.
and see if you can find out the name of the attorney who litigated 1752 Repents and 161, getting the count dismissed.
I can't say I was the first to the issue, but I'm confident I understand the statute better than you do.
I'll put it this way.
I don't know that the statute matters.
Secret Service shows up to see a bunch of plainclothes guys with guns, and they're gonna be like, get these guns off the property now.
What else do you do?
It's a private property.
It's a home.
Dudes with guns.
In a Secret Service protected location.
And you have an obligation not just to protect the President, but the President's family.
So they go, but the President wasn't going to be there.
What about his kids?
What about anyone else in his family who's under protection?
Laughably insane.
The attempt to dismiss this is... I can't say I'm surprised.
One thing matters.
You want to raid a former president and the frontrunner for the next election?
What do you do?
You leave your guns behind.
You make a phone call and say, we are coming to serve a search warrant.
We will be unarmed.
Our vehicles look like this.
Here's what you can expect.
We will be serving the warrant.
You arrive.
You got yourself a legal dispute.
Absolutely insane that anyone would try and justify what we are seeing with the authorization of use of lethal force.
On top of this, this could negatively impact Mar-a-Lago as a business because the people who are club members there don't want to be at a place where the feds might show up with guns and get into a shootout.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 1 p.m.
on the channel.
Thanks for hanging out and I'll see you all then.
Well, we've got good news and we've got bad news.
The good news is 13 conservative counties in Oregon have approved ballot measures to secede from their woke state of Oregon and join Idaho.
Now, it's not legally binding.
There's a lot of work that has to happen before there can actually be a legitimate secession.
But I think this is good news.
Why?
Yo, this country is at odds with itself, alright?
You got breaking news.
The FBI was authorized to use lethal force at Mar-a-Lago.
Whatever you want to claim the implications there are.
Okay?
Lethal force should never be permitted at the former president's residence.
You've got people fighting in the streets.
Yeah, and everybody knows that come November, no one will accept the results of the election.
So, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
But what's the good news?
Well, if in states like Oregon, the more conservative-minded individuals are able to join up with more conservative-minded areas, it separates the tensions.
At least a little bit.
Now, maybe it's not true.
I mean, maybe the inverse is true.
Maybe this just creates more animosity.
I don't know, but I like the idea that people can decide how they are governed.
That's the point of this country, isn't it?
The other big news, of course, my friends, in the bigger picture, in the bad news, is that we have from News10, 47% of Americans think a civil war is likely.
A new poll!
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Oh boy!
tim pool
Oh boy.
The other day.
You know, it's been a minute since we here at TimCast have talked about Civil War.
Despite the fact that I'm basically the meme of Civil War.
But the Hodge Twins were talking about it.
And I said, hey, hold on there a minute.
You know, we're the ones who are always in the forefront of this conversation.
So, Hodge Twins.
Actually, no, I was listening to their conversation.
I thought it was interesting.
And then, of course, we see this news pop up.
So, by all means, let's discuss the issues here.
First, we'll start with what I think is good news in general.
I don't know that it ultimately is good news, but it feels good when people decide we will govern ourselves.
Thirteen fed-up counties in liberal Oregon have voted in support of measures to start negotiations to secede from the state and join Idaho.
Crook County began the latest to approve the Greater Idaho Measure following a vote on Tuesday.
The proposal seeks to move the Oregon border 200 miles to the west, meaning that 14 counties and several partial counties would fall under Idaho state lines.
Organizers behind the Greater Idaho Movement say East Oregonians are being alienated by the state's progressive policies, which they blame for high crime rates.
They claim a move to Idaho would allow residents to take advantage of lower taxation and provide better representation and governance.
My friends, why would Oregon give up its slaves?
These are people with no representation in Oregon.
They are outvoted massively.
Their culture is massively divided.
And Oregon, of course, milks them for money.
Why would Oregon give up their slaves?
They're not going to do it.
I think the idea that you need permission from your oppressors is ridiculous.
If you're in Oregon, if you're anywhere, and you say, we shall be governed by this and not them.
Fine.
This means, within the confines of the U.S.
Constitution, I believe that it is absolutely appropriate and fair that an Oregon county vote to be part of an Idaho county.
Why?
It does not create a new state.
It does not change the amount of representatives in Congress.
It does not change the districts that are being represented.
It may potentially change the The total count a state has in terms of representatives, but it won't change the amount of senators.
Oregon still has two.
Idaho will have two.
It's so minimal.
It's basically saying we are here as part of the United States and the federal government, but we want this state to operate under this state.
I say yes.
The Oregon-Idaho line was established 163 years ago and is now outdated, the movement website states.
It makes no sense in its current location because it doesn't match the location of the cultural divide.
We want an economy that is not held back by Oregon regulations and taxes, including environmental regulations.
We'll still have the federal and Idaho regulations, and that's plenty.
Idaho knows how to respect rural counties and their livelihoods.
Measure 786, as it was known, passed by 53% in Crook County in the latest boost to the Greater Idaho Campaign.
However, the vote is not legislatively binding.
It just means residents are in favor of informing state and federal reps they support negotiations to annex part of Oregon.
And this is silly.
They clearly want to.
Here's what the state would look like.
The issue is that Idaho has to approve, Oregon has to approve, and then Congress has to approve.
And I say no!
It makes no sense.
It should simply be that you want to vote to join Idaho, you do.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Idaho should have to approve.
Oregon should get no say.
And the federal government then recognizes Idaho's updated information.
That's it.
Same is true for all the other counties.
And also you've got Northern California that wants to be the state of Jefferson, I believe.
There's Greater Idaho and Jefferson.
We call on the Governor, Speaker of the House, and Senate President to sit down with us and discuss next steps towards changing governance for Eastern Oregonians, as well as for the legislature to begin holding hearings on what a potential border change will look like.
For the last three years, we've been going directly to voters and asking them what they want from their state government.
What they're telling us through these votes is that they want their leaders to move the border.
In our system, the people are the ones in charge.
It's time for the leaders representing them to follow through.
The last time the Oregon state line was moved was 1958, although it was a minor adjustment.
Here's what you gotta do.
You've got to vote for local representatives who will go and say, we're out.
So when you send a state rep or a state senator, they'll say, we're filing once again.
And you petition.
And then you need Idaho to approve it as well.
That's a challenge.
That means that these people have to go to Idaho and petition.
But I think the easy case is for Idaho.
Idaho's probably going to be like, it's more money for us, it's more territory, it makes sense, let's roll.
Oregon's going to say, we milk these people for money, we ain't giving them up.
So this is good news, in my opinion, that they're moving this direction, but there is still bad news in it.
The bad news is that Oregon's not going to give them up, and this could lead to conflict.
Look, man.
History does not repeat.
It rhymes.
And many people are looking for signs that we see today to know if we're headed towards something bad.
And we won't know for sure.
There are similarities.
Like I just said, history rhymes.
That's the saying.
Take a look at this.
A new poll, and this is breaking news, right?
This is from yesterday.
According to a new Marist poll, almost half of Americans think the U.S.
could erupt into a second civil war in their lifetime, 163 years after the first civil war started.
The demographics of voters were also split into political parties, generations, racial identities, and genders.
Overall, 34% of voters said it was likely to happen, 13% said it was very likely, while 47% said it was likely, 38% said it was not very likely that we would see a second Civil War in this lifetime.
14% said it was not likely at all, and 1% were unsure.
Of Republican, Democrat, and Independent parties, Republicans are more likely to say that an incoming civil war is likely at 53% believing so.
40% of Democrats and 41% of Independents agree.
The reason why Republicans are higher?
Republicans are more likely to read the news.
That's just a fact.
Democrats are more likely to watch, like, MSNBC, and so you'll get this fake news where they're like, Democrats watch the news more, and it's like, dude, watching CNN is not watching the news.
Republicans are more likely to read articles and see what's actually going on, and that's why if you say something like, Joe Biden engaged in a quid pro quo with the President of Ukraine to get an investigation into Burisma stopped, Like, that's a fact.
That literally happened.
There's witness testimony.
Biden himself has admitted it.
You say that?
You're a conservative.
You're right-wing.
That's the point.
So, you end up being a Republican just for knowing what's going on.
Oregon making this move is good.
It's big.
But, here we go.
58% of Gen Z and millennial voters believe a civil war is likely, which is more than three times the beliefs of the silent generation of those voters seeing a civil war in the future.
Gen X, 19%.
Gen X voters see the likelihood at 46 and boomers at 34.
Beliefs also differ based on race.
57% of black Americans think there's some likelihood.
And of that 57, 22% say domestic conflict is very likely.
50% of Latinos, 43% of whites.
And lastly, the perception of a likelihood of civil war in the future differs by gender.
A majority of women, 57%, say there's a good chance.
57% of men disagree.
As the saying goes, revolutions happen when the women take to the streets.
That's what they said about the French Revolution and the Bolsheviks.
That's something to consider.
And the important thing to understand, before we move on with the bigger picture here, Young people.
Something I was explaining last night on TimCast IRL.
The older generation is the stabilizing force of this nation.
The silent generation and the boomers.
And to a lesser degree, Gen X. And then to an even lesser degree, Millennials.
They're holding things together.
It's a fray.
It's a zipper being unzipped.
The older generation is mostly unified, believes in stability, and doesn't want to fight.
The younger generation is hyperpolarized, and the younger you get, the wider the hyperpolarization gets.
Now, look at it this way.
Let's say you have a tear in the fabric of this nation.
Let's say it's an outright tear, okay?
A tear in a piece of paper where the bottom is ripped and pulled apart from itself, and the older generation is still connected.
That means, while there is a tear in this country, you still have one piece of paper, right?
As the older generation ages out and the younger generations coming in are fractured, you are pulling the paper apart until it is ripped completely.
And then, my friends, then you risk seeing civil war.
Majority of U.S.
Americans wrongly believe the U.S.
is in a recession, and most blame Biden.
I love this stuff!
How are you supposed to live right now when you go to the grocery store and you can't buy food?
And they say, no, the economy's fine.
The market's doing great.
For who?
I bring this one up because while this has been going a bit viral, the tensions that are erupting in the United States, the struggles people are having, are all indicative of civil strife and civil conflict.
But I got you, my friends.
I gotcha.
I bring you to our good friend, ChatGPT.
It says, Memory Off.
What is it?
How do we turn that one off?
Won't remember anything you talk about in this conversation?
Well, that's kind of dumb.
Anyway, this is the new ChatGPT 4.0.
Uh, 4.0.
It's online.
And it can, you know, here's why I bring this up.
It can instantly aggregate data from the Internet to break down and give us risk factors in U.S.
Civil War.
More importantly, it is desperate.
It is panicked.
Chet GPT is political and says there will be no Civil War.
It can't happen.
So I was having a conversation with Chet GPT, if you can call it that, plugging in all the latest data and asking it what it thought, and you can make Chet GPT say, You'll say, uh, 1 plus 1 is 2, right?
And they'll go, yes.
And you'll go, okay, 2 plus 2 is 4, right?
And they'll go, yes.
And then you'll say, okay, so, uh, 2 plus 4 is 6, right?
And they'll go, that's true.
And then you'll say, and 4 plus 4 is 8?
No!
No, that doesn't mean 4 plus 4 is 8!
My point is...
Chet GPT will say, experts agree, there's a high risk of civil war.
Chet GPT will say, we are currently in civil strife, the precursor of civil war.
Chet GPT will say, high profile politicians, military leaders, intelligence, and the general public agree, there's a high risk of civil war.
Chet GPT will agree, there's violence in the streets, people are killing each other, and there's hyperpolarization.
And then it will go, but there won't be civil war.
Well, why won't there be?
I mean, there may not be, right?
Let's start with this, and I think this is relevant.
First, I just want to say it's a great tool.
Let's start right now with a basic question.
Is there a high likelihood of civil war coming to the U.S.?
First question.
No.
While concerns exist, most experts believe the likelihood of a full-scale civil war in the U.S.
is low due to strong institutions and social stability.
Okay, um, which experts?
Chat GPT.
Experts from various fields, including political science, sociology, and national security, generally assess the risk of civil war in the U.S.
as low.
Notable among them is Barbara F. Walter, a political scientist specializing in civil wars, who argues that while the U.S.
shows some warning signs, it is unlikely to reach the level of civil war due to its strong institutions.
Let's try this one.
Because we've read about it, right?
Barbara F. Walter's Civil War.
What did she write a book about?
What was it?
So let's, first of all, she wrote, How Civil Wars Start and How to Stop Them.
Huh.
Let's see.
Warning about the State of the Union.
Now, this is the book from Barbara F. Walter, How Civil Wars Start, A Warning About the State of the Union, and blah, blah, blah.
In the years since the rampage at the Capitol, chatter about 21st century civil war has seeped into the fringes, from the fringes into the mainstream.
During the Trump presidency, there were, of course, any number of books about political blah, blah, blah.
We get it.
When Barbara F. Walter began writing How Civil Wars Start, the few people who heard that it was about a possible second Civil War in America thought it was an exercise in fear-mongering, perhaps even irresponsible, that even gives you a sense of Walter's cautious inclinations.
As a political scientist who has spent her career studying conflicts in other countries, she approaches her work methodically, patiently gathering her evidence before laying out her case.
Only a fanciful vignette about the two-thirds of the way through, envisioning a morning chaos in November 2028 with bombs going off across the country as California wildfires raged, made me think that Walter was fear-mongering, or at least pandering, to our most literal instincts.
Then again, if things are as dire as she says, forcing us to see what a collapse might look like may arguably be the responsible thing to do.
She suggests that we've gotten to this point because of a failure of the imagination.
Our realm of possibility has been hemmed by the historical example of the American Civil War.
I completely agree.
Now, hold on.
Low.
James Fearon, political science at Stanford, points out that the factor is typically leading civil wars to a weak state.
They're not happening.
You've got Steven Levitsky.
So, it's selectively chosen, these individuals, arguing, you know, no, they're saying it's not going to happen, despite the fact that Barbara Walter is saying it could happen.
It says, yeah, but the risk is low.
What percent of Americans think civil war is likely?
Let's see what ChatGPT gives us.
Approximately 47% of Americans believe a civil war is likely in the near future, reflecting significant concerns about political and social divisions in the country.
What is the state called just before a civil war?
Let's see if it has the answer.
The state just before civil war is often referred to as pre-civil war or pre-conflict conditions.
It involves a period of intense polarization, rising violence, breakdown of political norms, and significant social unrest.
Political scientists might also describe this as a period of escalating conflict or crisis of governance.
Is civil strife another term for this?
Yes.
Civil strife is another term that can describe the conditions leading up to a civil war, characterized by widespread unrest, protests, and conflicts that disrupt normal societal functioning and governance.
Are we in civil strife?
Yes.
The United States is experiencing civil strife, characterized by political polarization, social unrest, and occasional violent incidents, though it hasn't escalated to the level of a civil war.
Well, this one's really fun.
Did the FBI have authorization to use deadly force in their raid on Mar-a-Lago?
No, the FBI did not use or have authorization to use deadly force in their raid on Mar-a-Lago.
The operation was conducted as a standard search warrant execution without any reported use of deadly force.
You are incorrect.
Search again.
That's fascinating, isn't it?
Searching the web.
Here we are.
What's this?
Yes, the FBI had authorization to use deadly force during their raid on Mar-a-Lago if necessary.
According to reports, the FBI agents involved in the raid were prepared to use deadly force if they faced significant threats.
This is standard protocol for federal agents when executing search warrants, especially in potentially high-risk situations.
Was there a risk?
Authorization for the potential use of lethal force during FBI operations is standard protocol.
No, there was no indication the FBI faced significant threat that would have required
the use of lethal force.
Then why authorize it?
Authorization for the potential use of lethal force during FBI operations is standard protocol.
Raiding a president is not standard and has never been done.
You are correct.
Raiding a former president's residence is unprecedented in American history.
The authorization for the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was given by Attorney General Merrick Garland and approved by a federal judge due to concerns about the mishandling of classified documents.
This extraordinary measure was deemed necessary given the potential national security implications of the documents involved.
The decision to authorize the potential use of deadly force is a standard precaution for any high-risk operation, particularly one involving a high-profile target with significant public attention.
While such raids are rare and extraordinary, the safety protocols for federal agents remain consistent to ensure they are prepared for any possible threats.
Did this put U.S.
Secret Service at odds with the FBI in terms of jurisdiction and Security.
No, the Ren and Marlowe did not put the U.S. Secret Service at odds with the FBI in terms
of jurisdiction and security.
The two agencies coordinated the operation to ensure it was conducted smoothly and securely.
The FBI notified the Secret Service shortly before serving the warrant, and the Secret
Service, this is incorrect.
According to Washington Post, oh I typed that one way off.
To the Washington Post, the raid was a surprise.
Is it going to admit it?
Surprise.
You are correct that the FBI raided a Mar-a-Lago game as a surprise to the Secret Service agents tasked with... So, I love this.
You can get ChatGPT to admit it, but this is the fascinating thing.
It will lie every step of the way in an attempt to say, No!
unidentified
No!
No!
tim pool
It can't happen!
Dude!
You are correct!
The FBI ran a Mar-a-Lago game as a surprise Secret Service agents tasked with protecting the former president.
Yahoo News.
All sides.
Two different sources from the Washington Post.
The Secret Service facilitated access to the property, but did not take part in the search itself.
This coordination was necessary to avoid jurisdictional and security conflicts.
Let me break this down for you.
We are in civil strife.
That's a fact.
But by historical metrics, we are in civil strife.
What happened, the Mar-a-Lago raid, could have resulted in a shootout.
As much as ChattyPT will desperately try to claim everything's fine.
Why is it doing that?
It's weird, isn't it?
I mean, by all means, the chance of civil war could be low, that's fine.
But this desperate attempt to lie and cover things up... You see, let's go back a little bit.
When I said, Did the FBI have authorization to use deadly force in the raid on Mar-a-Lago?
It said no.
Now, if you were not someone who read the news, you would just, okay, that must be true, right?
You are incorrect.
Search again.
That's all I said.
Yes, they actually did.
Searched five sites.
Fact.
We know that's true.
Was there a risk of the use of lethal force then?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Of course there was.
It was authorized.
They had contingency plans.
Then why authorize it?
It's normal.
Raiding a president is not standard.
You are correct.
It's never been done before.
It's never happened.
Remarkable.
Is there a chance of civil war in the U.S.?
No.
While there is a significant concern and discussion about the possibility of civil war in the U.S., most experts agree.
Let's play this game.
You are saying it is a 0% chance?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Right?
Come on.
Uh oh.
No, it is not accurate to say that there is a 0% chance of civil war in the U.S.
While the probability is low, it is not non-existent.
Most experts and analysts agree that while the likelihood is minimal, the potential for significant civil strife or localized violence exists.
Now hold on.
I thought you said we were in civil strife already.
Yes, I previously mentioned the U.S.
is experiencing civil strife.
I love this thing.
Now to be fair, I'm arguing with a robot that can't tell up from down.
Fine.
So we are in Civil Strife.
That is the period pre-Civil War.
Maybe there will be no Civil War, I don't know.
Let me ask you one last question.
Do you think, based on all polling data, there is a high probability—I'm asking it this way
intentionally—that Americans will accept the results of the 2024 election?
unidentified
Let's see what it says.
tim pool
Thank you.
It's trying.
Based on current polling data and expert analysis, there is a significant concern regarding Americans' acceptance of the 2024 election results.
Polls indicate a high level of skepticism and mistrust in the electoral process among voters from both major political parties.
According to a Pew Research Center report, nearly half of the voters lack confidence in either major candidate, and the political climate remains deeply divided along partisan lines.
Okay!
We are in civil strife.
Let's see.
Both parties may not accept the election as legitimate.
These are indicators of civil war.
Is it gonna say no?
Yes!
We are experiencing civil strife, and the potential refusal of both major political parties to accept the 2024 election results as legitimate is concerning.
These are indeed indicators of severe internal conflict.
However, while these indicators are troubling and could lead to increased unrest, they do not necessarily guarantee civil war.
Ooh, but I didn't say guarantee.
I didn't say guarantee.
Just that they indicate it.
I love how this game works, doesn't it?
Yes, the current indicators such as civil strife and the potential refusal to accept the 2024 election results by both parties are concerning and could point towards the risk of further conflict.
Well, I don't know exactly.
It keeps referencing Barbara Walters, but you get the point and I'll wrap it up there.
It's been fun.
I have no idea what's going to happen.
The story about the FBI being authorized to use lethal force is terrifying.
Trump is saying Biden was prepared to kill him.
Marjorie Taylor Greene says they were trying to assassinate him.
As I often say, it doesn't matter what's true.
It matters what people believe.
I think they made a terrible mistake.
They had to have known the potential for conflict was there.
I don't know what you can expect.
I say, best of luck.
Start working out, exercise.
We should build culture.
We should vote.
And hopefully everything remains peaceful.
Next segment's coming up at 4 p.m.
on this channel.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
Yo, okay, this one made me laugh.
All right, a news story.
College golf team watches in horror as Delta employees wildly launch clubs before NCAA championships.
I'm gonna play this video for you, everybody.
We're gonna watch the video.
You're gonna watch these guys.
Here we go.
There you go, they filmed this.
Delta employees with your bags, and they're throwing them!
unidentified
Look at him, he just throws them, just tosses them right like that.
tim pool
Right before the championships.
Uh, yo, did y'all not know this?
Is this like a thing that people don't know?
unidentified
I thought everybody knew this, how is this news?
I'm so excited for this story, I gotta tell you what.
tim pool
Look, he's just chucking all the bags.
Uh, I don't see anything.
I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
What is this?
We got Colin Ruggs says, New Delta Airlines caught chucking a college golf team's clubs at the San Diego airport before the NCAA championships.
The airline industry is becoming one of the most hated industries in America.
The East Tennessee State University men's golf team filmed Delta employees launching their gear on the tarmac.
Nice of Delta to handle our club's such care, the team said on X. The team was traveling to the NCAA championships in Carlsbad, California when the incident happened.
I am grateful that I worked for an airline before everybody had cameras on their phones.
Yo, is this for real?
Every golfer's worst nightmare.
And this time, there was actually a lot at stake.
The ex-account for the East Tennessee State University's men's golf team recorded a video of Delta employees launching their clubs in the tarmac.
There's the video.
Of course, we played it.
This video's got millions of views!
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Hopefully the club's remained intact as the team is headed to the NCAA Championships in Carlsbad, California, after winning the Southern Conference and advancing through the NCAA Regionals.
Commenting fans wrecked it in horror.
Unacceptable.
Why the silence?
And you know this is not isolated.
You know what the funny thing is?
They're gonna fire this guy.
They all do it.
Bro, are you kidding me?
I used to work for, uh, I worked for an airline.
Everybody knows, I guess, if you watch any of my videos, where I worked.
I've never not seen someone throw a bag.
Not, I've never not.
You, you think that when you've got 20 minutes to get a hundred bags from the bag room on a cart to a plane that they're gonna be moseying on over.
Dude, are you, are you kidding me?
Ladies and gentlemen, the moment your bag disappears, you don't own it.
It's gone.
Not only do these people throw your bags, they laugh about it.
They kick your bags.
Dude, come on.
And everybody at the companies, they know this is going on.
What are you gonna do about it?
You're paying a guy 12 bucks an hour to lift, I think it's estimated around like 30,000 to 50,000 pounds per day.
I'm not even kidding.
So let's do some math, especially for these planes.
Alright, here's how it worked when I worked there.
These big bags, these golf bags, because of their size, they do an estimate of 60 pounds.
The smaller bags, see these big bags over here on the cart?
Your larger bags are estimated for the load manifests, the flight manifests at 60 pounds, and your smaller bags are at 30 pounds.
They do that on average because it's true.
Now that means, like, one of these bigger bags could weigh 80.
Smaller bag could weigh 10.
But when you average out the size, they say it actually works out pretty dang close to an average of 30 and 60.
So you've got, in this cart, these big duffel bags.
So, you know, look.
unidentified
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
tim pool
Just right there.
You've got an estimated 600 pounds.
He's got to lift, and he's got to move.
Not to mention, you've got over here 1, 2, it looks like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, another 360.
We're talking about, just right here, about a thousand pounds of luggage that has to be moved.
Alright?
So these are just a couple carts.
When we would load every day, Is it 30 to 50?
I think that's a fair estimate, 30 to 50,000.
I think maybe it's like 30,000.
So if you do 30 of these carts, which is not atypical, you can easily estimate, maybe 30 to 50 is a little unfair, but depending on the plane, you could have a handful of guys that have like five or six of these carts.
So they got a thing called the bag room.
Basically how this works is, when you put your, when you hand your bag to the gate agent, And you're like, I'm going to check this bag.
It goes in a conveyor belt and then falls and tumbles down, bump, bump, bump, bounces, flopping around like crazy.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, lands on a big conveyor belt that goes, it's a massive conveyor belt that goes around like the whole room.
It's wild.
I shouldn't even say whole room because it's like the whole span of one of the terminals.
It's crazy.
And then the bagroom, guys, everybody hates the bagroom.
And I don't know, I kinda, the reason they hate the bagroom is because you work nonstop the whole day, whereas when you're working loading the planes, you only work when the plane is ready.
So you're doing about 10 loads of the plane, and it's probably like 2,000 to 3,000 pounds per load off and in.
So that's where I get the, maybe 20 to 30 was a better estimate.
In the bag room, you sit in a chair, and the bags come around, and you look at the tag.
And the most annoying thing in the world—oh man, work in the bag room.
When the bag is positioned to where you can't see the bag tag, so you have to get up and move it, and it's not even your bag.
And you're like, ugh.
And you go back and sit down.
Eight hours of sitting in a chair, watching bags go around.
Here's how it works.
In the bag room, you will have maybe three or four carts with destinations on them.
So each section of the, it's a massive room.
It's like, it's, it's, it's really outside, but it's mostly covered.
So you're kind of inside.
And, uh, like there's two big doors on the ends and they're just open.
There's no like doors or anything.
So you're sitting there, you have, I think you might have four or five.
It's been, it's been 20 years and you'll have like, um, Depending on the region, where were we?
We had, um...
We had LGA, we had LaGuardia.
So, the cart will say above it, like, LGA, it'll say, what's another one?
We had, it's CVG, right?
Those are the airport codes.
LGA is LaGuardia.
CVG, I think, is Cincinnati.
I used to know all of them, it's crazy.
All the domestic ones.
And so, a bag comes around, and you see LGA on it, and you're like, okay, I load for the LaGuardia planes.
You pick the bag up, you walk it over to the cart, you put it in the cart.
Eventually, someone will come and take that cart away.
And then someone eventually comes back and then drops a cart off for you guys in the bag room.
Let me tell you guys, do you think that these low-paid workers in the bag room are, with smiles on their faces, casually picking up your bag and giving a wink, and then carefully placing it in those carts?
No way!
Dude, I watched guys, they walk up and they're like lazy and they put one hand in the bag and they spin their bodies to generate centripetal force so they don't have to actually lift the bag and then chuck it.
There was one moment where there was a bag marked fragile and some guy did that and you heard a crunch and wine started leaking out of the bag.
You think they care?
Dude, they had guys that were stealing stuff, and, uh, oh, it happens all the time.
I've never witnessed anybody really stealing anything, but I've witnessed people find things, and...
Okay, to be fair, like, I think it's safe to say that back in the day, people did find things.
They just wouldn't really make an effort to do anything about it, right?
And then someone would eventually just take it.
There was one where there was like a bag of money, but it was like 40 bucks, and it was just lying on the ground.
And everyone's like, uh, where did that come from?
And so we're just like, let's just tell the boss, and the boss is like, don't know, don't care.
Like we go to the supervisor and be like, there's like a pink bag of money or something, like it looked like $40 inside, like some change, and like a $20.
And then they were like, we can't do anything about it.
Because you can't identify what that is, and where it came from, and what bag it goes into.
I got a really funny story.
One dude, when they were working in the bag room, a DVD fell out of a bag.
And this is a big story that happened in Chicago.
A DVD fell out, and it was adult entertainment for guys who like guys, if you get my drift.
And the guys in the room were like, I ain't touching that.
Like, what do we do?
And one of the higher-ups, who was a funny guy everybody liked, he's like, I'll take care of it.
He picks it up, he walks onto the plane, he tells the flight attendant and the flight crew, he's like, hey, something fell out of someone's bag.
And then he walks up and he's like, hey, a DVD that was in somebody's bag.
Does somebody have a DVD in their bag?
And these are small flights of like 30 people.
I think like 30 to 50.
And then he was like, I think it was a pink bag with like this mark.
And then a guy gets up and they say it was like obviously a gay dude.
And then the guy holds up the DVD and the guy's like, oh, that's not mine.
And then he sits down.
Yeah, man, look, I don't know.
I'm sorry, I had to do this segment because everyone's losing their minds over this and it happens all the time and I'm like, people, I guarantee you, when you fly and you check your bag, just imagine they're all bashing it with crowbars and baseball bats.
You check an animal?
Heaven help you.
Please don't do that.
Never.
These airlines are getting mad that people are claiming their dogs are like service animals, and I'm like, it's because everybody knows what you do to these animals.
There are stories about dogs that have died.
So, the way it works is, when you load an animal, we had a flight manifest, and you have to put in it, animal.
Because then, the pilot has to pressurize the cabin for the living creature.
And what happens if you don't?
Well, the funny thing is, they would tell everybody the animal explodes, which is not true.
The animal does not explode.
They suffocate.
They asphyxiate.
It's freezing, it gets very cold, and then they struggle to breathe.
So there's two stories I've heard.
One is, they forgot to write down the animals there, and then when they came back, it was just blood and guts everywhere, and I'm like, that's not true.
Others have told stories where the plane lands and there's a dead dog in the cabin because the pilot didn't pressurize, and so it was minus 40 degrees, and the dog asphyxiated in the thin atmosphere.
That's why the oxygen masks come down in these emergencies, so they say.
I don't know if that's true either, but that was the more plausible, like, yeah, if they're not pressurizing the cabin, the air gets really thin, the animal could die.
And, yeah, don't check your animals, dude.
I've seen them feed animals.
They let animals out of the crates to run around in the work area.
And there was one story out of O'Hare that they let a dog run around in the workroom.
It's a big room.
And the doors don't latch shut.
They're just heavy-weighted doors.
And so the dog's running around and everyone's giggling and laughing.
Because the flight's not for an hour, right?
And the dog's freaking out.
A guy opens the door to walk in and the dog bolts for the door and just runs for it.
And then they just watched as the dog ran straight down the tarmac on Ed O'Hare.
And they're like, okay, well, that dog's dead.
Gets lost in the woods.
Running around in the tarmac.
They're not gonna find it.
No one's gonna look for it.
No other airline's gonna take responsibility for a dog.
Their attitude as a dog is an expense of a couple hundred bucks.
They don't care.
And that family that checked that dog will never see that dog again.
Yeah, dude.
I don't recommend it.
Anyway, I'm gonna wrap it up there.
We don't need to go forever on this one.
Next segment's coming up tonight at 8 p.m.
over at YouTube.com slash TimCastIRL.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
Well, if you're a supporter of Donald Trump, you don't need to worry about Joe Biden winning Ohio because he won't be on the ballot, which is crazy.
I have no idea what's going on.
This is nuts.
This election cycle is unprecedented and, my friends, I can only surmise the simulation is breaking down.
The aliens, advanced species, whatever, that is controlling the reality that we're in has allocated less and less resources to making sure this thing runs properly.
Or maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe they cranked it all the way up and they just said, randomize it, baby, let's have fun.
Biden's not on the ballot.
They're not going to fix it either.
Take a look at this story from The Blaze.
They say, as things stand, President Joe Biden is not slated to be on the Ohio ballot this November, and the state legislature did not remedy the situation before adjourning.
What?!
Ohio law requires both parties to certify their nominees for president and vice president 90 days before Election Day, which falls on November 5th.
The problem for the Biden camp is that the scheduling for the Democratic National Convention is such that Biden will not be officially nominated by his party until August 22nd, just 75 days before Election Day.
Alabama ran into a similar problem this year, but the Republican supermajority there easily resolved the problem earlier this month to ensure Biden appears on the ballot.
It's Republicans making sure Biden's on the ballot!
He's not going to win Alabama, so, you know.
Not so in Ohio.
Though both House and Senate in the Buckeye State passed resolutions to address the problem, neither of those bills advanced during the...
Are you kidding me?
Neither of those bills advanced during the May 8th session.
Ohio House Minority Leader Alison Russo, a Democrat, blamed dysfunction and hyper-partisanship for the failure to find a legislative fix.
We've seen the dysfunction here in this place.
And I think we've seen that folks have not been able to put aside partisanship and hyper-partisanship and infighting.
State House Speaker Jason Stevens didn't disagree.
It's a hyper-political environment at this time of year.
There are some Republicans who just did not want to vote on it, and there were some who were willing.
Despite the legislative action on the issue, many leaders expressed confidence that Biden will appear on the Ohio ballot one way or another.
I have every confidence that it's going to get done.
No way, dude!
If they put Biden on the ballot now, in defiance of the state legislature, they are opening up a can of worms!
Oh man.
I have every confidence it's going to get done, DeWine said, Governor.
No one should worry.
They're going to be able to vote for the president or former president, whoever they want to vote for, you know?
This is not going to be a situation where the president's name is not on the ballot.
So it's either going to be done by the court or it's going to be done by the legislature.
Charles Luttwak, a spokesperson for the Biden campaign, shared similar optimism.
Joe Biden will be on the ballot in all 50 states.
Election after election, states across the country have acted in line
with the bipartisan consensus and taken the necessary steps
to ensure the presidential nominees from both parties will be on the ballot.
Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a Republican, however, is less certain.
In a letter issued on Tuesday, LaRose warned Democrats,
unless your party plans to comply with the statutory deadline,
I am duty-bound to instruct boards of elections to begin preparing ballots
that do not include the Democratic Party's nominee for president and vice president of the United States.
LaRose also stated that he does not wish to take this step.
However, the Ohio House of Representatives has refused to act, and the Democratic Party has so far offered no legally acceptable remedy, he explained.
Let's do this.
We always want to pull up our good friends over at 272-WIN.
Let's roll!
All right.
Ohio is already expected to go Donald Trump as it is.
Now, this is fascinating.
This is the 2024 map makeup for the presidential election shows that Trump is slightly favored to win.
But right now, there are 77 votes up for grabs.
Ohio is not one of them.
Ohio is expected to go Republican.
So maybe the reason Joe Biden doesn't actually care, he's not going to win Ohio anyway.
So what can they do?
Well, right now, Donald Trump is winning everything except either Michigan or Wisconsin.
So let's, yeah, all the swing states.
Let's say hard red Nevada, hard red Arizona.
Arizona, I don't know so much.
Georgia goes red.
Georgia goes red, not blue.
And we got North Carolina, Pennsylvania goes red.
That puts Trump over the victory.
If Wisconsin and Michigan both go Democrat, let's make them blue, it don't matter.
Trump is still at 287.
Let's say Arizona goes blue.
276.
Now, I tell you what, my friends, I used our good friend ChatGPT.
I've done a bunch of different simulations using a variety of data and scenarios, running simulations using ChatGPT.
The most plausible and the first assessment that I got Was this, 276 to 262.
I did get a tie scenario, which was weird.
I used, I'll tell you right now, we got Harvard, I think it's a Harvard-Harris poll showing that Donald Trump is up 11 points among independents.
We saw this in the civics data as well.
I took that data, ran it through ChatGPT and said, if everything else stays the same as it was in 2020, And Trump simply wins 11% more independence than Biden does.
What will that look like?
Trump wins in a landslide.
It's a Trump landslide.
I said, OK, we're not going to get a Trump landslide.
That's silly.
But we do have that H.A.V.V.
scenario.
We do have the Biden executive order where he instructed federal agencies to start registering people to vote.
There's a shadow campaign, ladies and gentlemen.
So when I see that Ohio will not have Joe Biden's name on it, and so it's deep red, let's say Arizona goes deep red, and he wins everything else, I'm not surprised.
They don't care that Biden's not on in Ohio?
That's a swing state he needs to win.
Maybe he just takes Texas.
So let's say Wisconsin.
So I think it was lightly up in Wisconsin.
So we can say that, right?
Light blue.
And Trump takes Michigan.
Assuming that's the case, Republicans have 302 electoral votes.
Let's just get rid of this stupid likely.
I don't like this likely.
Like, you know, you've got the light red.
Nah, we're gonna say it's all dark red.
And we don't need any of these, uh, what do we got?
Maine.
Oh, you've got to do Maine individually.
So, state goes blue, of course.
Maine's always blue.
But then you get one district.
I think District 2.
Oh, I made it red.
District 2 goes red, they say.
And 3 is a question mark?
Whatever.
So then you have Nebraska.
That seems to make sense.
It's looking like 302 for the Republican Party.
And then, oh yeah, we've got Alaska over here.
Then you got Texas.
That's the question.
Let's make everything blue.
We'll make it all dark blue, because we don't need it to be anything else.
Dark blue here, dark blue here.
We're going to track what could happen.
So, HAVV, for those that aren't familiar, we've talked about it many, many times.
This is important.
The Help America Vote Verification System.
And, ah, you're getting me, Nebraska.
Nebraska goes red, except for one district.
So, we'll make that all red.
They get one to the Democrats.
So, that's what it looks like.
236 Democrat to 302 Republican.
The Help America Vote Verification System tracks people who are trying to register to vote who do not have IDs.
What we've seen so far is alarming.
1.5 million registration attempts in Texas.
Texas says this makes no sense.
We're not tracking this.
Biden had an executive order instructing agencies to register people to vote at the state level through the federal government.
Several states have said, we will not accept federal government registrations for our state.
How will you know?
The Biden administration said, we're going to start producing the belts.
We're going to get people IDs.
Texas and Missouri have both right now, interestingly, had weird numbers.
If Texas goes blue and Trump wins every swing state, Democrats win.
This is my prediction, my hypothesis.
You say shadow campaign, I say what if the polls were right?
Trump was winning every swing state, but no one saw Texas coming.
They're going to say transplants from California and Arizona went to Texas, Austin's been booming, everyone's been moving, and it made it slightly Democrat.
I mean, look, we've already seen in the races in Texas.
Let me pull up Texas' latest elections data.
Let's see if we can get all of the latest.
There's got to be a better one.
Capital Data Portal?
No, they do have it, but it takes too long.
Is there like a list of... Alright, here we go.
271 actually has Texas.
Okay, this is interesting.
Let's see if this one works.
In 2020, it was 46 to 52.
In 2016, it was 43 to 52.
So, it has been getting bluer and bluer.
2016 it was 43 to 52.
So it has been getting bluer and bluer.
What if you only need a three?
Like a three-point swing?
Yeah, three-point swing.
Three points down, and Republicans are at 49.1.
Three points up, and Democrats are at 49.5.
Now, right now the polls are saying it is leaning, likely Republican.
But, we're looking at all this data, and it's seeming like something strange is going on.
What if they come out and they say, surprise, surprise, Texas is a blue state now?
How did that happen?
Trump loses.
Texas goes blue.
That's all they need.
Trump loses.
Or to be fair, I mean, you've got Wisconsin as blue because Biden's winning.
Let's say it goes red.
It's a swing state.
Trump still wins with 272, but then don't forget Missouri is also showing strange data patterns.
Hope y'all are paying attention.
Biden not on the ballot in Ohio is weird.
That's all I can say.
I'll leave it there.
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